Shotgun 650 Vs Super Meteor 650 by a Meteor 650 owner
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- čas přidán 10. 04. 2024
- In this video, Teacher T Thailand compares the Royal Enfield Shotgun 650 against the Royal Enfield Super Meteor 650. Highlight the differences to help you I. Your choice to decide which bike is best for you.
The Shotgun 650 is more of a sports bike, with a slightly sportier demeanour compared to the Super Meteor 650. It's got a more upright riding position, which gives you a commanding view of the road ahead. And let me tell you, this thing can hustle through the corners with confidence. The front fork rake is more steeper, making it quicker and more efficient to cut through corners - Auta a dopravní prostředky
one guy suggested that he thought it was likable to a 650 bullet but honestly I think and thought this is really a Classic 650, I love this bike.
It is unique, but the 650 Classic is coming soon 🙏
this is the perfect video for anyone confused between SM640 ans SG650
Thank you 😂
As a brand new shotgun owner and not having ridden any other royal Enfield. The bike to me seems like a cross between a British twin and Harley Davidson. I love it the brit twin sound and the solidity of a Harley.😊
Well it's roots, and some of the design team are still British.it handles well and was a pleasure to ride. Enjoy 🙏
I rode both yesterday and the hunter 350 , and I did own an interceptor previously, my thoughts are , Meteor 650 touring , Shotgun 650 is a hybrid of the interceptor and hunter , and for me it was the sweet spot 😊
It is very much like the Interceptor to ride, and it does use the small foot pegs from the Hunter strangely enough 😂🙏
Good stuff and solid editing, love your choice in camera angles.
Thank you. Still new at the CZcams game. But thanks again. It means a lot. 🙏
Thank-you for explaining the differences between the meteor & the shotgun .models! I'm getting ready to buy the meteor, now, after watching this video-i may have to buy BOTH of them! Each one fills a particular need in my riding experience! Doug, in the U.S.🇺🇸🦅
Thanks Doug. That is exactly the case. 2 very different bikes, and a place in my heart for both also 😂
@Teacher-T-Thailand I would love to have a second bike for a loaner. If I was going to buy a second bike it would probably be eatheir a Himalayan or a meteor 350. I think it would be cool to have the smaller version of my current Supper meteor. Pluss you can get them with an army green tank.
I didn’t like the colors of the Shotgun the first time I saw them, but they’re growing on me. Especially this blue one.
Agreed. But they do stand out. And growing on me also 🙏
Feeling the same way towards the Stencil White, but Super Meteor I believe is better for me in the long run.
Your the only reviewer to point out the seat and suspension issues regarding the Super Meteor, i bought a Super Meteor and ended up having dry needling to repair the damage done to my lower back and bottom, courtesy of the utterly terrible seat and suspension. I live in Adelaide Australia the roads aren't the best but that seat, it's a torture device.
I say it as it is. But I’m getting a lot of hate for it on my recent Himalayan review. My seat is a lot better on the Meteor since I did my modification to it. Not for the faint hearted though. And today I will fit and test the new Hagon shocks and test. I hope you recover soon. And fingers crossed that there may be a solution for a better ride.
As I previous Super Meteor owner, now a Shotgun owner I can reliably inform you the suspension is not the same. The Shotgun has longer travel. I measured it because I bought some Hagon shocks and was going to swap them on to the Shotgun but they came up short by at least an inch.
How interesting. They really did look the same to me, but of course I did not measure them. It did feel a much more softer ride. How are you finding it? The Hagon shocks come in 290mm and 310mm. The original Meteor 650 shocks are 310mm. I have opted for the 290mm to try and lower the bike for me at the same time. Could you measure your rear shocks for me? 🙏
Great video! Thank you!
Thank you 🙏
As a Super Meteor owner I was very impressed with your review, has got to be the best review and explanation in the differences of the two bikes, what a great video. The Shotgun is not my cup of tea but I do like the black engine, shame the Super Meteor hasn't got that as an option. Just subscribed, and looking forward to watching you Super Meteor content 👍
Thank you so much. To be honest I was expecting a boozer feel Meteor. Sadly it wasn't that at all. But it certainly will fit some people who are not cruiser foot peg fans. Thanks for watching 🙏
I've ordered the Shotgun as I do love RE's bikes, i do miss my Super meteor.
Let's hope all goes well as I also plan to buy the 650 Classic.
I did like the Shotgun. It rode really well, with lots of power. I hope you enjoy it too. The Classic 650 will be interesting. If they get the looks as good or better than the 350, then it will be a contender for me also.
Really love this vid.
Than you 👌🙏
Thanks for the video friend! Here in Brazil, both models are about to arrive, so you can get an idea you have to put your name on a waiting list. Regarding the models, I'm going with the Supermeteor because for long trips I think it will be more comfortable. hugs from Brazil and good winds friend
The meteor is good. But the rear suspension is terrible for long rides. Watch my video here at 5.40 czcams.com/video/xeNZ1V_lhKY/video.htmlsi=haIqoN-bI60ZgtU-
Changing the suspension solves the issue. All the best in Brazil. Hope you get one soon 🙏
I'm fortunate to have the opportunity to have 3 days of riding both bikes back to back,which I think I will need as I just can't make my mind up 🤔. Well done Royal Enfield 👍🙏
Nice one Bob. Let me know which one you get 🙏
Nice one Bob. Let me know which one you get 🙏
Ha this is great, I'm going to be taking that bike out in the next couple of weeks, plus the SM 650 Dameralls have so great to see it ridden before I do. Sat on it the other day when I popped in, not too bad considering I'm just under 5'6". Considering upgrading from the Classic 350, so looking forward to this ride even more now, cheers :)
I’m 5’8 and only have an inside leg of 28 inches. I was on tip toe on the Shotgun, but it seemed easier to move more than the Meteor. Please let Simon at Damerells know you’ve seen the video please, as I’m hoping to get another test ride next week of the Himalayan. 😂🙏
@@Teacher-T-Thailand Will do , he's a good guy so I'm sure he'll be obliging :)
You're sub now....I like your presentation. educating enough like a teacher 😅
Thank you kindly 🙏
as a fellow super meteor owner I love your take on the shot gun. The part about the seat height is very useful. At 6 foot 2 the super meteor is perfect if it was any taller, I think it would be awkward for me. I have come to absolutely love the slightly foot forward position of the foot pegs, so far if I had to choose again, I would still get the super meteor. in the U.S.A the price difference between the two bikes is only 100 USD, I figure that the savings is from not having the panner rack installation points on the rear fender.
Thanks. 🙏also money saved on non aluminium controls and no lift handles. As you say, not much price difference. Great bikes. Enjoy 🙏
Definitely an urban machine. Seems to lend itself to chain drive as well. Black paint with gold letters would be nice. 😎 Cheers
Agreed on all points 🙏
Hi, thanks for the tips. I wouldn't go for the shotgun following your review. I don't like the weight on my arms and I like the laid-back ride of the super meteor.
Cheers.
Glad to be of service. The Meteor is a stunning bike 🙏
Excellent review, i am looking for a cheap second hand black super meteor 650 to which i will add the shotgun foot controls and i think i will have a real mile muncher. I have 9 Royal Enfield's at present here in Queensland Australia but always have room for one more, My brother has a further 4 including the new Shotgun which i do not like in its standard form. However riding it felt like my 500 Classic with more poke but less style. Love Royal Enfield bikes with endless possibilities.
Thank you. Sounds like you are more of a RE fan more than I am. That would make an interesting video, and a great idea. All the best with it. Looking forward to your results 🙏
I would be inclined to fit the Super Meteor deluxe touring dual seat on the Shotgun as I believe all the current accessories for the Super are direct fit
It wouldn't fit, unless you did some major home modifications.
Still waiting for the Shotgun in Australia. I'm now thinking of getting the Indian 101 coming out in July.
I've heard from subscribers that they are still waiting for the Meteor in Peru and Vietnam! Indians are out of my price range in Thailand. Can buy a house cheaper. But something I would like to aspire to one day. Hope you don't have to wait too much longer 🙏
Very clear and helpful. Thank you. Which of the two would you say is the easier to ride for a novice rider?
For a novice rider I would honestly recommend the 350 J Series bikes. Especially the Meteor 350 or the Classic 350. But out of the 650 range if you are that confident, I would say it all depends on your inside leg. 795mm is top end height for most motorbikes, so the Shotgun is high seated. The Meteor is more relaxed.
Thanks, Bro! For tall riders (I have 184 cm), a higher steering wheel is needed. Maybe the Interceptor will fit the Shotgun even better than the Super Meteor.
I'm not at tall rider, but even I felt myself leaning forward to reach them. Because the rake angle pushes them further away I suppose 🙏
In uk, Himalayan 450 is also available for test ride. Will u going to review that one also? If you review the Himalayan 450, make sure to change camera antiflickering settings to 50hz or 25fps to avoide screen flickering
That is a very good question. I will look into it. I'm only here in UK for another week. Thanks for the advice 🙏
I find it interesting that many Brits call this bike a cheaper bike when they are basically the same price in the U.S. and any parts are the same other than the plating or paint (switch gear). Quality wise they are identical. Also, the rear shocks are not identical. The Shotgun rear shocks are 20mm longer.
Interesting. They certainly,y looked like the same shocks, but did feel so much better. I didn’t measure them. I do think the aluminium finish is better than the black plastic on the control area. And I wasn’t too keen on the small foot pegs robbed from the Hunter. Certain,y a nice bike to ride though 🙏
@@Teacher-T-Thailand black plastic? The switch gear on my Shotgun is Aluminum. Unless you mean the powder coating on them? The Shotgun shocks are 330mm, Super Meteor are 310 (I did measure lol). I do agree with the small foot pegs. That is something that can be resolved though. There is even a set of pegs RE sells that are larger.
Got to sit on a Shotgun at the local dealer yesterday. First impression was: this is a very small bike. It felt diminutive for my old 6’ frame. Very nice switch gear. You may have mentioned this in your review but I was surprised at how stiff the seat is. Didn’t really feel terrible, but it’s probably the hardest motorcycle seat. I’ve experienced in my 50 years of riding motorcycles.
Yes it’s hard, but absorbs the bumps from the road very well being a floating seat, Unlike the Meteor 650 where it’s a soft seat, but you feel every bump. One thing I did forget to mention was the small foot pegs. Robbed directly from the Hunter. Too small for that bike in my opinion. Which probably gave you the impression it was a small bike. It’s a winner for many 🙏
Is the suspension still stiff after the shock change?
@@staffordvideoproductions5788 not as stiff, but doesn’t bottom out any more. Which was the problem I had with the originals. Because every time they bottomed out it was spinal damage.
That return to stressed member construction is a huge mistake.The new Himalayan stressed member frame is failing .Jeez all it takes is to put the damn bolt on lower frame rails but Noooo they had to screw things up. You don't dare bolt a sidecar on it. Meanwhile my cheaper lighter more sporty Interceptor is scrambled and has had a sidecar since 800 miles.18,000 miles later it is going strong.
💪🤔🙏
Another great video Trevor, thanks for that. I am looking to upgrade from my one cylinder Classic 350 to one of the 650s. I think that the Super Meteor is probably not for me because of the cruiser position. So it would be a choice between the Interceptor, Continental (although slightly sporty / forward posture) or maybe this new Shotgun. When you confirmed that it is not a bobber, that makes the bike seem more appealing to me. But one of the main reasons for me to upgrade from 350 to 650 would be for better long distance touring. And the big question is how to accommodate luggage without totally ruining the bike's appearance? Removing the pillion seat improves the look of the Classic 350 and the Shotgun too. But how to add a rear rack for a dry bag (my preference rather than side bags) without destroying that prominent rear mudguard appearance.
Can it be done, I wonder?
Thanks AB. I think you should wait until the new Classic 650 is launched. I have a feeling RE will work their magic and come up with a bike even better looking than the Classic 350. They did with the Meteor. As for panniers, funny you mention that. Hopefully when I return to Thailand soon there should be a set of panniers waiting for me to review. Stay tuned!
@@Teacher-T-Thailand Aha, new panniers. Sounds good.
Add the pillion seat to the Shotgun. It is a combo with a rack. The rack mounts permanently and the pillion seat pops off when desired with a simple turn of the key.
@@paulch8665 that sounds good Paul, thanks
It looks to me that you can lower the seat mount to get the bobber feel, but not sure how it would affect your reach to the handlebar and how 'destructive' the modification needed will be. (it would also lose the spring effect)
Bobbers are stripped bikes to make them light weight. The Shotgun is certainly not light weight. But still a fantastic handling bike 🙏
"Bobber" is more about the rear fender shape. If you compared the shape to the HD Bobber, it's pretty close.
Nope. A Bobber is a bike stripped of its unessential parts to make it lighter, and lower seated. The Shotgun is far from light or low seared. It has a bobber look. But not the feel. Still a nice bike though. 🙏
I’d like to see the Shotgun on sale in Thailand, don’t know how we will have to wait, after all they’ve only just introduced the Himalayan 450
Vietnam and Peru don’t even have the Meteor yet according to comments. It’s a shame Thailand is behind so much, especially as they assemble in Thailand now also.
Now they just need the Shotgun 650 with forward controls.
Now wouldn't that be something 😂🙏
Brilliant. I’ve just done the same, my SM 650 onto a test ride shotgun. What a difference, superb handling, mega light clutch, totally different bike. The answer.. but both it’s still cheaper than a gs. Nice one Royal Enfield. Brilliant.
I think you meant buy both lol. I’m sure there will be some out there that will 😂🙏
Question of the day is “would yo swap?” 🤔
Ha ha. A good question. At 56 years young, I’ve now evolved to be a cruiser rider. In my younger years, yes I would have swapped. But now approaching my free bus pass, no. I’m happy with my meteor 650 now I have at long last solved the comfort issues. 🙏
Hi! Im from Brazi.
The Super Meteor will start to be sold here in next month.
But here we have a lot bad condition roads.
Do you think the suspension could be a problem?
Thanks!!
Yes ithe rear suspension in the Meteor is very firm, and can bottom out if not set correctly. I will be trialing new aftermarket shocks and making a video soon. One to watch 🙏
@@Teacher-T-Thailand I have a Honda Shadow Spirit. And it is soft, but I wish a newer bike.Thank you very much for your help!
@@mauriciodaniele4339 I have an old Honda Steed / Shadow also. But not reliable or fuel efficient enough for long distance. The Meteor is very reliable and safer 🙏
Helpful review thanks. I got rid of my Interceptor because of the pegs catching my legs just as you said, and found the Meteor 650 too heavy so was interested in your comments on the Shotgun. I have no idea what category to put it in really, as you say not a bobber. I think I’m going to stick with the lighter more agile / lean looking BSA Gold Star 650 another year, loving it and nothing seems to be persuading me away from it. Have you tested one yet?
@@LumpyCarbs that's a bike I've not seen or heard of. I will look into it, thanks 🙏
Is this bike too heavy for a beginner rider? I'm looking for something that would allow me to flatfoot it(to be a bit more comfy and confident) and sokmething that does not accelerate too quickly. I heard it is quite heavy so I'm having some worries.
Yes it is a heavy bike. And a 650 for a beginner is a big leap of faith. You are much better off with a 350 for a while until you build your confidence and ability. 350 will be lighter, lower and more economical. As well as cheaper to insure 🙏
@@Teacher-T-Thailand what would you say about RE Classic 350? The weight is still around 200kg but .. less bike xD
Is that more beginner friendly or still weight fks it?
@@angelnokare6906 it’s ok yes. The Hunter is a good light beginner bike.
@@angelnokare6906try both and I will bet you choose the Hunter. More pep and better handling.
How can you say it’s a cheaper bike than the Meteor when they are priced the same
£100 cheaper in UK 🤣
Or just wait for classic 650
Yes. That will be very interesting 👍
Feet position has nothing to do with being a bobber.
Kind of true. But weight certainly does. 🙏
I'm gonna bet it's fine for in-city driving on near perfect pavement. Bad/broken pavement will probably beat your kidneys out and hitting highway speeds on the highway will be uncomfortable after the first few miles. Too light, and unprotected, for highway travel. Budget brakes and suspension.
Too light?! Not at all. At 240kg it’s a heavy bike. And suspension worked a lot better on the Shotgun, because the floating seat also help soften the ride. All was good.
Since when does a bobber have to be a cruiser? What the world rides Harley? Harley is the only bobber?
A bobber is a stripped down bike to make it lightweight. The Shotgun is far from a lightweight bike. It has the look, not the characteristics. 🙏
Collect them all 😂
That would be nice, and an understanding wife 😂🙏
Not exactly the same bike. Fine. So what?
So what? Were you one of those naughty boys that sat at the back of the class and never listened? The whole point of the video was to highlight the differences in the bikes, to help people make an informed decision on which one to purchase. Please write down 10 times, “I must pay attention more in class”.