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Your mom tbh
Hi, love your vids
@@donteatmycheeze4901 shut up
Will nordvpn protect me from the cia finding reasons to burn my family alive with napalm?
@@kv-2156 (that wasn't a shitpost)
Fun fact: The 7th cavalry was also the Custer's regiment, the cavalry unit that was wipe out by the Lakota at the battle of Little Bighorn roughly a hundred years ago, in pretty much the same isolated manner that it would face at Ia Drang.
I learned that from We Were Soldiers. That reminds me that I haven't seen that movie in a long time.
Only now the cavalry had Choppers XD
More like 130 years ago.
@@glhmedic I think he meant a hundred years before vietnam
Lucky number 7!
Shout out to Joe Galloway, a reporter who was present at the battle. He helped a wounded soldier called Jim Nakayama get on one of the helicopters for evac after napalm was dropped on him by accident.
Is he still alive
We’ve all seen the movie bro
@@Nothing-ii9oi Jim Nakayama was Killed in Action in Vietnam unfortunately, but Joe Galloway survived the war but passed away this year
@@jonj8330 rest in peace
He just died recently.
Read "We Were Soldiers Once, and Young." Both US and North Vietnamese contributed to the book, and tremendous respect is shown for all involved. It's an honest, unpretentious book written by the men who were there.
thanks... enjoyed the movie and never read the book... good recommendation...
And that's why you shouldn't watch this movie
Albert, the movie doesn't tell the true story. They offer a glorified propaganda version of events. Particularly the part about "no one left behind." It dishonors the memory of those that got left behind.
@@albertbresca8904 read the book, don’t watch that movie
@@nielsstilson9834 that is what movies are all about - it is unusual for a movie to tell the whole truth or story....
My grandpa on my dad’s side is a soldier in the NVA army. My aunt and uncle got killed in a US bombing run while they were returning home from primary school. They were 5 and 7 years old.
My dad marry my mom in 2000, who was the daughter of a ARVN soldier in Hanoi. Pretty nice that my grandpas get along really well. I’m happy that people are still interested in this war because it’s so ingrained in my family.
Shame Vietnam is communist; however, this was a war that could of made bitter enemies of all of South East Asia. The US got off lucky, since the Vietnamese knew the score (and also won the war).
@@bustavonnutz Nothing to be shame dude. The US must feel shame for rejecting the Vietnamese request to recognize Vietnam's independence, instead of helping France to reconquest its former colony.
@lati long It isn't that people reject it's link to nationalism, only that communism does not care about the individual or general public. It's an oligarchy of top party members acting as joint dictators while everyone else goes along or else. There is no communist country on this planet that is even remotely democratic, hence why eth-nats refuse to associate marxism/communism with nationalism.
@@bustavonnutz
That just isn't true sorry you believe that because you were taught that, for example Vietnam has been doing more good for its people during this global pandemic than America has with its people. These countries just have different ways of doing things and you have to respect that, there is absolutely no reason to warmonger here because it sounds like you aren't being respectful of these south asian people and their nations.
@@danielalvarez-galan3702 Communism is the most destructive ideology on the planet. People in Vietnam have had to endure the erosion of their rights on top of various atrocities committed in the name of communism, including the Cambodians who both suffered under the Khmer Rouge as well as the war with the Vietnamese. You are programmed and ignorant of history, so remove the log in your own eye before commenting on the splinter in mine.
One famous veteran of this battle was Rick Rescorla. He would go on to die at the World Trade Center on 9/11/2001 but not before saving an estimated 900 people.
Was going to write the same note. A true hero.
Awesome RIP!
Wasn’t he also reported to be singing Men of Harlot, as he was getting people out?
Oh so bush killed him
Rip
@@KyojuroRengoku98 how many 3am conspiracy videos have you seen?
There’s a pretty good movie about this Battle called “We Were Soldiers” with Mel Gibson. It gets pretty intense at moments.
The Book is even better.
Still fantastic film though.
The opening scene were the Việt Minh attack the French platoon was brutal.
I love that movie, surprisingly the director cared more about getting history right in this one than brave heart. Kind of dumb when you think about it.
Fact, a veteran insult the film cuz no VC soldier fight like that irl
@@tibilk1474 Hello do you know of any book on the subject but from the point of view of the vietnamese, eitheir in english or french, by any chance ?
Broken Arrow
Being a constant visitor of the VA with family for medical care, I had the privilege to meet 3 airmobile veterans who fought at the Ia Drang, and they told me to never retell their stories, so I will honor that promise. However, one thing I can say, is that they never left Vietnam after that battle. The look in their eyes when they told me about the friendly fire napalm strike was one of pure despair. And they were spit on when they came back. Anyone who knows any Vietnam veteran, PLEASE honor them, give them thanks, help them. They need it more than you know, they are tough old bastards but they are truly suffering still...
thank you for bringing this battle up griffin. Appreciate it, love your content and have for years.
In my journalist days, I really wanted to interview Hal Moore. He was such a fascinating person and an incredible leader. I was lucky enough to have correspondence with Joe Galloway about reporting from war zone
I've always wanted to learn more about the history of the Vietnam War
Welcome to what most US Soldiers call 'hell', guy with no mustache.
You really wanted too, Mustacheless comrade? Props to you, then!
Listen to Jocko podcast, find the episodes where they talk about SOG. It's insane
WTF you are everywhere bro
We consider the war is one of many that we have fought. Another war to defend or retake our homeland
It's nice that you included the action at LZ Albany. That part of the battle, even tho it only lasted a day, was more desperate than the one in LZ X-ray. They were caught in a strung out column in the elephant grass and most of their COs were infront because they were interrogating captured NVA when the ambush started, leaving most of the companies without their commanders and radios operators.
The Americans really fked up big time with that 2nd stage of the battle. In their mind the battle was over and they were just going to the other LZ for pickup. NVA didn't think the fight was over, so they just followed and ambushed them. Most of the US soldiers had been without sleep for 2 or 3 days at that point and were exhausted.
I can see why they didn't put it in the movie. It wasn't pretty at all, more of a slaughter of unprepared and uncoordinated US troops. Every man for himself kind of fight, hiding and hoping the enemy didn't see you. I can't remember the book exactly but I think even commander Moore was back at base debriefing or something. Most of the troops from LZ X-ray who got back to base via chopper had to get sent out immediately again to rescue the troops at LZ Albany.
@@CHAOS88100 Commander An and his AVN ordered 8th Battalion to move to this battle field 2 days earlier. US commanders could not know about 8th Battalion as 8th Battalion was cutting through jungles when previous encounters occurred. They might have thought that the battle was over. AVN got lucky as its reconnaissance unit detected US troops before US troops detected them(Both sides can be considered on the move and were trying to ambush/attack each other according to Vietnam side.). The following is just an textbook of an infantry ambush with a lot of bravery and discipline on AVN side and rescue team on US side.(Reconnaissance unit kept quiet to let US troop advancing, knowing that your friends being interrogated will die. Captured NVA died to keep secrecy...) . Commander Moore is very experienced and if it was he, he could do the reconnaissance job much better even with exhausted units.
More 's troops from LZ X-ray who got back to base via chopper were brave too. The chopper guy was brilliant.
I keep on reading a lot about this battle field as both sides were brave, experienced. There is not much battle field like this anymore after that.
I heard a veteran in the 2nd platoon speak about his experience and it’s absolutely insane how they made it out of there alive 🇺🇸🇺🇸
20:11 I'm like 99% sure that in both UK and American English, Pyrrhic is pronounced "pier-ik", rather than "fear-ik"
just a small note
Pi-ear-rik
Or Pierre-rik
I've noticed he also says "earnst" instead of "earnest".
Literally the bare minimum they can do is at least learn how to pronounce basic words correctly.
It is pronounced Pier-ik indeed, not Fear-ik or Pierre-rik.
he can get the 4 part Viet names right but earnest is too tough
My grandfather was one of the rare pilots of the south Vietnamese Air Force. Flew an A1 sky raider and then an A37 dragonfly. I’d love to see a video on the various planes used during the war. Especially the ones used by the south since nobody ever has talked about them
my grandfather was an engine fixer of IL 28 bomber, i hope someday this channel will make video about that rare plane in Vietnam war
Did he have troubles after the war?
@@tomaszzalewski4541 he was a POW for about 8 years once Saigon fell. Made his way to America in the 80’s to reunite with his family. Now he lives a quiet life about 20 mins from me
@@chanhjohnnguyen1867 go make sure he has a good remainder of his life
@@chanhjohnnguyen1867 oh and once Covid is over, ask him if he wishes to go back to his hometown
As a Vietnamese, I really love when you made video about the Vietnam war, it give different respective. And it is alway welcoming to see forigner people interested in Vietnam history. I strongly suggest you made some video about medieval Vietnam, it is so interesting. Vietnam vs Mongol empire, Vietnam vs China acient version, medieval version and modern version, Vietnam vs Thailand, Vietnam vs Japan in ww2, Vietnam vs France in 1860
I'm British but love history of other countries as well as my own, would love Tran Hung Dao, Le Loi
Finally. Something that isn’t about the Vietnam war
"AN ABRIDGED HISTORY OF VIETNAM FOR NON-VIETNAMESE"
Don't fuc with Vietnam.
the end
Go home GI
@@mktf5582 go on home British soldier go on home (My countryman in 1960s)
For those asking about the Lil Griff regarding climate and carrying capacity: The hotter it is, the less dense the air. Therefore, it requires more lift to overcome the thinner air caused by the heat. This is why the helicopters couldn't carry up to their design capacity. Modern airliners also have to deal with this in hotter cities like Phoenix, Arizona.
How can anything fly to "space"? Really.
SFC Earl D. Keith was a Combat Medic who served in Korea and Vietnam for two tours. One of those tours involved his participation in the Battle of The Ia Drang Valley. There are two photos if I recall of him providing aid to wounded Soldiers! RIP Grandpa!
I still have flashbacks from my time in vietnam.
went diving there a few years ago - it was great!
i see what you did with those words
Đà Nẵng?
Top Gear Vietnam Special flashbacks...
Those suits... My God, those hideous suits!!! 😳 CLARKSON!!!!
Thanks for your service. My plane refueled at Da Nang going to Thailand one month and returning the next. Someone had to go where I went.
@@ProperLogicalDebate dont be excited, this guy is probably faking it
As Uncle Ho Chi Minh once said, "Fry the rice, pay the price."
Eheheheh stealing that one
Imagine frying rice
as an Asian I am disgusted
@@EmbeddedWithin wdym fried rice is a staple of asian cuisine
Because amerikangz fried the rice in vietnam, wyt wimminz are burning coals and paying tolls today...wars depleted the best men so only thirteen percenters are left to pick from.
Fried rice is OK. The US grilled it
A very nice and detailed video, as a Vietnamese I really love it. Fyi, the tactics that Griffin mentioned in the video was called "nắm thắt lưng địch mà đánh", literally "fight the enemies by grabbing their belts" in official Vietnamese history books.
"nắm thắt lưng địch mà đánh" = "grab the enemies' belt and attack". This tactic is to respond to the US ground troops call for air support like jet fighters, or even B-52 bombers, as soon as the battle started. Just like if someone standing across the room cannot accurately throw a chair at the opponent try to help his/her friend who is in a fist fight with another while they are holding tight each other necks.
This was also the battle that made the M16 into a widely adopted rifle of choice for the US and many other nations to come.
When Eugene Stoner altered his AR-10 to fire the smaller 5.56x45mm rounds, he called it the AR-15 and the Air Force was the 1st to adopt it. With good words coming from them, small detachments of SOF and SF forces then use their own procurement process to get some for usage. When they got it, it was in the same config as the Air Force units where it doesn't have the iconic yet useless forward assist, iconic triangular handguard, non-ribbed mag release and the three-pronged flash hider with the whole package still named the AR-15.
The Cavalry unit was one of these few army units that were sent to test the rifle for general adoption and at that point, congress did not know about rifle being used for combat by the army yet thus the air cav units were sent to Ia Drang in 1965 with said rifle. When they reached to the landing zone, they realized the rifle to be extremely nice to shoot as it doesn't have insane recoil unlike the M14 and even the weight is way lower with the aluminium and plastic construction of the M16 vs the wood and steel of the M14.
Despite losing the battle, the reviews that came back from troops that survived the battle and even post-battle result shows that the air cav units do love the AR-15 and thus the reports got sent to the Pentagon which was then picked up by the then-secretary of defense at that time, Robert McNamara.
McNamara liked what he saw with the review, handled some of the AR-15 units, decided to make changes to it and then approved it for mass adoption by 1966 as the M16. Despite being a great rifle, it had tons of issues as some of the things like the powder for the rounds were changed which cost the guns that were issued out in 1966 to be totally ineffective as it malfunctioned consistently due to ignorance of the weapon system and how it functions. However, remedy was made and by 1969, the M16A1 was made and circulated out to the troops again with changes like the additional of the forward assist, ribbed closing around the mag release and the birdcage-style flash hider as the three-pronged ones kept getting itself lodged between twigs and wires.
Where 30rd mags used at all or when did they come around?
@@twatner09 30 round magazines started to come in at the end of the war I'm guesstimating late '74 to '75
I didn't know all the details of the M-16's history and always wondered why they had M-16's in "We Were Soldiers" and now I know!
@@twatner09 30rnd mags came out about 1971, around the same time the M16A1 got circulated around.
It was a great change and addition but it din't help much as war support for the conflict was ever more hostile back home in the US and with the US pulling out in 1974, it's not uncommon to see ARVN troops using their M2 Carbine which they loved and mismatched M16A1 and the old M16 with either 20rnd or 30rnds.
The m16 was so well loved by the NVA, too. After the war, a lot of VN SF adopted the shortened carbine version of the M16A1 for use, while the rest of the troops use AKs. Needless to say we retooled them in 7.62x39 as to less complicate logistics, but you can be sure we did shoot them in 5.56 when we were fighting the CCP and the Khmer rouge.
My family had history on both side of the conflict. On my mom side, her dad was a soldier in Viet Cong army. On my dad side, though didn't have any military records, his father did help transporting the goods like food & equipments to the US troops. It's fortunate for us that the unit that he transport to was friendly, they often gave us the leftover foods which greatly helped the survival of all family members who's still living till this day. And before any of you good children of uncle Ho jumping in calling me a "3 stripes", I'll let you know that I'm a conservative & currently a citizen of Vietnam, not US or anywhere else. I'm a person who's interested in history and I study all sides of the conflicts (and so should you).
Damn so your family fight on both side
What is a "3 stripe"?
@@JennyGormanRitter It's mean the 3 three red sticks color on the flag of South Vietnam . We always said that like a joke about the loser
@@JennyGormanRitter it just a thing we said to mock the arvn who escape to the US on helicopter and we also call them (đu càng)
Nothing wrong if your family fight on both side, the war was over, and we all vietnamese :)) just do your job to help our country grown, that ok with me. The only one i call "3 stripes" is the one who do nothing, sit there and blame anything wrong with this nation for Communist. History is good, it keep you remember peace in Vietnam is from our ancestors's blood, and we must love it, protect it like they did, not broke it apart like those "3 stripes" want.
I'm so happy you finally covered the battle of Ia Drang. There is so much to speak on yet maybe a handfull of other youtubers have even mentioned it.
Nice avatar, I always interesting in Norse mythology
The movie was brutal. Its his I learned about this.
@@VikingTeddy Ia Drang not brutal as battle of Khe sanh, but still it is brutal
@@nguyensonbinh8621 I'm only just starting to read more about Vietnam. They only teach us about the American war here (Finland).
The whole 19th and 20th century was brutal. Vietnam really has seen a *lot* of war.
The effort that goes into these videos are incredible, mad props to everyone involved in making them
I was in the 101st as a sniper team leader in Afghanistan. Your content is amazing! You should do a history of the sniper episode! Boost this comment guys, so we get a sniper episode!
I wanna watch We we’re soldiers again now!
Good Movie
classic!! Mel Gibson at his best
Goddammit. That propaganda movie?
@@akramgimmini8165 🤮🤮🤮
An animated series on the Falklands War would be good.
I agree, if he's at least respectful of both sides....
Oversimplified
Sounds epic
I really can't thank you enough for your thoughtful and well researched pieces. Your careful reconstructions help people who where there (as I was) and those who were not there understand how a battle really evolves. I think viewers get a much better understanding of what it means to be "pinned down" or why technological superiority can prove meaningless in close combat. Your work is important and I'm very pleased to be able to support continued efforts at fact-based history. Thank you!
It is interesting, my Teacher has taught us a bit about a story about the Vietnam Memorial in Washington, and it also includes the war itself. Seeing you drop this helps my presentation, so I appreciate this. Thank you Armchair!
Once again, amazing art and contents from Armchair Historian. This is a good covering of the battle imo, wish i could contribute more in translating the video in my language, Vietnamese
You can make subtitles
@@tomaszzalewski4541 Didnt they take that feature away though?
I’m disappointed that you didn’t choose “Fortunate Son” as the intro, but I get the reference anyways. 😄
Sadly, fortunate son is copywritten so revenue would be disabled on his video
Fortunate son is for virgins, ride of the valkryies is for chads
@@ballsdeep7056 paint it black or gimme shelter is better.
@@belluh-1huey102 Sympathy for the Devil
@@belluh-1huey102 california dreamin too
Nice video, though I can't overlook an rather glaring inaccuracy: the Vietnamese troops are trained to shoot their AKs in short burst. More than 2 would mean too much recoil and less accuracy, besides the fact that they also have to save on resources. Please keep in mind.
I agree, tho these are some very small details and also not many of us Vietnamese folks know about it so I will call it a minor inaccuracy
those are trivial facts that are often not well-known to people who weren't there on the field fighting or just arent Vietnamese in general.
The folks at Armchair History did provide us with an unbiased view of the battle, showing relatively accurate uniform, weapons and portraying the troops fighting on the field as ferocious and hardened ones led by competent commanders. Something that the vast majority of media portrayals of the VNW failed to do.
@@coolbox8545 true, I agree that they have done a great job. If they include these details in other videos they would be even better, no hate bro
The 2 round burst is kinda VC signature lol
Firing full auto is usually to suppress an enemy you can’t see. Something US forces encounter often. Of course heavy M14s in full auto aren’t particularly easy to control, hence the M16’s adoption.
Firing in 2 round bursts also makes it harder for enemies to track your muzzle flash. Long bursts that last long enough for the sound to reach the enemy before the burst ends allows the enemy to look in the right direction to spot the muzzle flash. Short 2 round bursts or single shots will have the flash fade before the sound reaches the enemy’s ears if they are not looking directly at the shooter’s direction. For guerilla fighters, who prefer to fire flanking instead of shooting at the enemy directly in front of them this is almost always the case.
Excellent, absolutely amazing. Only issue are the M16s with 30 round mags which didn't come in proper until around 1970 and only really for ARVN. Small oversight but 11/10
Please do a video about the battle of Long tan, when 118 Australians and New Zealand’s held of 2500 nort Vietnamese
Yeah that would be a great video!
Although not the Vietnam conflict I'd love for Griffin to cover the siege of Jadotville, Congo, were Commandant Pat Quinlan's Irish ONUC peace keeping infantry unit held off 3,000 Belgian, French, and Rhodesian led Katanga mercenaries and irregulars for almost a week before being forced to surrender due to spending their ammunition and supplies, and no hope of rescue from the Indian troops who got bogged down in heavy fighting en route to reinforce them.
Brave warriors whose government (and the UN) completely hung them out to dry once they returned home.
@@residentelect The netflix movie is great
Retaking of Malaysia. I live there and was born there. I haven’t seen a single mention other than a tiny short mention in this video
@@Bullet-Tooth-Tony- what’s the name of the movie and on what streaming services
0:26 Apocalypse Now reference. Dude I love it.
Loving the quality these days. The greenscreen is filmed really good and the light looks so good. Thank you for the great content
"This will be a quick war and we'll go home before Christmas"
@lati long If only the Chinese had minded there own business
Love seeing content based on Vietnam. Could we get one on the 101st Airborne’s involvement in that conflict?
Specifically on the Battle of Hamburger Hill.
@@adamrubino178 and tiger force
Griffin, you have just redeemed the Vietnam war portion of your channel with this video, I never expected this video to be more than 90% accurate
keep up the good work
There’s a book called “Chickenhawk” it’s the memoir of a Slick pilot. Although the book covers his whole career as an army aviator he does mention his account of the battle from the air. If you’re interested in army aviation or the Vietnam war it’s a good read.
Highly recommended to watch the PBS vietnam documentaries. Its detail about this battle featured veteran commentaries from both side are both stunning and horrifying
Could you possibly do Yugoslavia during WW2?
Imagine someone doing Yugoslavia latest civil war, what would that look like....
Beautifully done. Griffin captures the emotion, and human element so well, even though this is a meta-analysis. The hard work, and dedication to detail shines through in every video I watch from this channel. Always looking forward to more. ☺👌
My uncle was a radio operator in the Air Cav in Vietnam. People think of Vietnam, they think of rice paddies, coastal waters, deltas, but a lot of the fighting took place in the highlands like Ia Drang. Woodsy areas that resembled hills in Southern California more than anywhere else. That’s where he operated, in the highlands, and got a Purple Heart.
😂😂😂😂 جيش المهدي تاج راس الامريكان
i respect the vietnamese for fighting a enemy with odds so low
"North Vietnamese"
And yet they won.
@@MrBassmann15 well I mean they always been fighting for independence. From China to France
@@glennmandigo6069 And? For us, there is no such thing as "north" or "south" Vietnamese. Such a thing only exists in your silly head
@@lehoang3532 Well not today, but back then.
Although it shouldn't be forgotten that the PLF (aka. Viet cong) was a southern vietnamese communist insurgency, so some South Vietnamese did fight the US too, so I get your point.
I always get such a happy feeling when I see this channel has a new video. Thanks for making this top tier content❤️🔥
Thanks for another great video!
The keen eye will notice a few nitpicks; but the overall project did a great job of summarizing the entirety of these events with an easy-to-follow narrative flow. Keep up the great work!
Really well-detailed and animated documentary. Keep up the good work Armchair Historian
I was literally studying this battle over yesterday!!! Do more armchair historian!
I'm never been so happy to see my country being respected and represented by Armchair Historian as a product on his shop store
Capitalism wins again!
Love this channel! The videos just keep getting better and better! Very well done 👍🏻
The animation just keeps getting better. Learning about Vietnam is always good.
I love the videos been wacthing for a long time and they just keep getting better keep up all the amazing work!
My dad was in the Vietnam war. This gave me a new appreciation for what he went through
Lol what he went through! You ever heard about the My Lai massacre?
Why are you comparing experiences that are BOTH traumatic? Trauma isn't something to be compared. @@larsonfrederick7885
For someone with dyslexia your videos have given me more insight into history that high school ever did. Keep up the good work, you’re the best history professor I’ve ever had.
Once again another amazing video! Thanks to the Armchair Historian Team!
I was wondering if you guys would ever cover the effects of the border conflicts and wars between Vietnam and China in the late 70s/ early 80s
Vietnam faught China for years but they never declared war
It was more like a territorial dispute between two neighbouring warlords than a war between 2 countries actually. The entire countries were not mobilised !!!
@@geordiejones5618 in ancient times, yes, we fought over many invaders from China. But when we declared to be an independent country in 1945. Then, in 1978, we called it"Chinese border war", it last just a few weeks. China said they wanted to teach Vietnam a lesson because we dared to help Cambodia kill Polpot regime which was being supported by China and America. Chinese government decided to go back when Vietnam mainforce was ready to move the North to fight them from Cambodia. (At that time, the force we defeated Chinese at the borders, they were just local people and some Vietnamese soldiers, because our mainforce still was in Cambodia)
@@dantheman3022 I think he meant modern day end of the 1970's.
Short summed up: China called it a punitive expedition, marched into Vietnam, got their asses handed to them, retreated and both sides till this day claim it to be a victory for themselves.
And afaik both states till this day are on not so friendly terms with each other (that may be one of the reasons why surprisingly Vietnam turned out to be one of the countries in the region having rather friendly relations to the US).
Also China invaded an island claimed and manned by Vietnam and threw them off it.
That would be interesting, the Vietnamese are a tough group of people… nonstop fighting for sovereignty for over 3 decades. Huge respect to them for all they sacrificed to keep their country their own
Hey Griffin, in your next Vietnam video do you think you could mention the Navy Seals during Vietnam, and all of the uniquely amazing things they did? If I remember correctly, there was a bounty on every single one of their heads during the war. My late uncle was a Navy Seal during this time, and he cleared under water mines, and was on rescue missions, at least, that was what we were allowed to know he did.
Wow. Cool
He should do the massacre of my lai
@@Turtlemilk That would indeed be an interesting video topic.
@@Turtlemilk ya but it won't be on CZcams
@@hejbuy how come
7:29 Are we just gonna ignore the fact that the dude just threw a flare like, 300 meters?
lol I noticed that too.. maby He was a Star Quarterback before being drafted
I'm so happy to see more Vietnam content!! THANK YOU!!
This is weird, I though Vietnam was filled with Robert Downey Juniors playing as a Black Dude
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You dishonor the soldiers of color by your comments. We lost whites, blacks, Hispanic and one of Japanese heritiage.If you have never been in a battle, then you have no business denigrating those that have.
THANKS ARMCHAIR HISTORIAN AND I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS MOMENT AND REMEMBER THE FALLEN WHO FOUGHT AND DIED IN THE BATTLE. THANK YOU AND DO THE BATTLE OF LONG TAN OF 1966 PLEASE
Holy moly , this video right after the anniversary of the battle. For the past few months i have been researching the topic extensively. Well timed gentlemen.
In the Battle of la Drang, the Americans and South Vietnamese had a total strength of 1,900 troops, while the North Vietnamese had a total strength of 2,500 troops. 237 Americans and 350 South Vietnamese soldiers were killed. The USA claimed that 1,070-1,753 North Vietnamese were killed, but the North Vietnamese claimed that they lost 554 soldiers.
1. There was no South Vietnamese in Ia Drang (they were in 2 other battles that take place previously)
2. The headcount of Vietnamese in Ia Drang is not even 1500
@@lehoang3532 oops, i accidentally put south Vietnamese instead of North Vietnamese. Sorry!
If two sides claim the opposite, the truth is usually somewhere in the middle
@@chaosXP3RT Yeah I agree. To be honest, I don't really trust US sources on enemy casualties since inflating enemy numbers is a common propaganda method. US sources always claim in every war that their enemies have enormous casualties, always multiple times more compared to theirs.
@@epa901 I trust US sources usually more than other sources, but I still take it with a grain of salt. Not just because of propaganda, but also because war is messy and confusing. Soldiers and militaries only collect so much evidence and then kind of guess. There was an interesting study during WWII, after the Falaise Pocket where the US sent in soldiers to count all the dead bodies and destroyed vehicles, and they tried to determine what caused the damage. If they didn't know for sure, they gave the Air Force the credit. By the end of the study, they found that American pilots overestimated their kills by a factor of nearly 2-1. Conversely, British pilots tended to underestimate their kills. It goes to show how confusing and chaotic was can be
We need a video on;
The Rhodesian Bush War
The Lapland War
The Kosovo War From The Kosovar Perspective
The Battle Of Attu
The Macedonian Conflict 2001
The Rhodesian Bush War would be an awesome video
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It's the law!
thanks for your video. thanks because of what you bring for Vietnamese History. thank you
Its not often when a ad transtion catchs me off gaurd. But you got me today. Hats off to you and your shilling abilities.
My granddad was in this war. He was a medic in the navy and would help move the wounded out. Not sure if he was involved in this battle though
It sounds like he was a Corpsman, a Navy medic attached to the Marines. Since this battle was only the US Army then I'd say no, he wasn't
@@visassess8607 i asked him earlier today. Yeah he was a corpsman and he wasnt involved but he WAS in Vietnam at the time
Thank you for making such a high quality video with a unbiased view of the battle. More often than not, I’ve seen the American glorifying their victory by saying they achieved this and that, and the Vietnamese ignoring the casualties when talking about these battles.
Edit: I rewrote one part because I felt like the phrasing weren’t clear.
To be honest, during such battles knowing 100% what happened is often impossible. Too much chaos
"North Vietnamese"
There is a difference
@@glennmandigo6069
all sides ignored casualties, and thats without mentioning how americans grossly exaggerated their killcounts.
@@boarfaceswinejaw4516
1. That's war
2. Communist murdered lot's more than Allies did
@@tomaszzalewski4541 True
the animations in this one are incredible. Beautiful and dramatic.
I really like the AK cycling animation when its being fired, great job adding that touch!
this war reminds me of a saying in India
" You might see a tiger once in hundred time but it has seen you 99 times"
Yeah! More Vietnam War Stuff!
One of my Favorite Theme in History
One of the best animation from armchair historian
Great video, Mr Armchair.
Great break down of the battle. I'd love to see more like this covering other major battles in Vietnam
Love to vietnam from the USA, don't let old conflicts divide us🥰🥰❤
we should team up.
@@funkykunx2544 Both countries hate China
no more hate!! only love
@@nogodsucksatgames srsly
@@theanglo-lithuanian1768 Yep, almost the entire country of Vietnam, including me, hate CCP
Great work,full of accurate details
Your guys’ animations just get better and better
Vietcong: Hey France wanna hear a joke?
France: Oui?
Vietcong: Indochina
France: I didn't get it?
Vietcong: *and you never will again*
“The horror. The horror.” ~Kurtz
Fantastic channel and series. The narrative, visuals, even the small popup guy with nfo in between. Fantastic stuff to watch by anyone interested in history.
Thank Q
Your animation team did a spectacular job on this one
You said Captain Hal Moore. I just want to point out that around that time his rank was lieutenant Colonel Hal Moore.
Dear Griffin, this is a great video about Ia Drang. If it's not too much trouble for you, I'd really like to see videos about the following events:
- The War of 1812 (and why it was so inconclusive)
- The Napoleonic Wars
- The Wars of Alexander the Great
- The Gallic Wars
- The Fall of Constantinople
- The Battle of Kursk (on the ground)
- The Wars of the Roses
(I'd also really like to see a video the evolution of French Army uniforms. Again, if it's convenient for you.)
You sir, have gained a sub, masterfully crafted. Thank you! #supportfromitaly 🇮🇹
Your history videos is amazing!
Wonderful reenactment of this battle Armchair Historian, the movie was good, and the book by Col Moore is a masterpiece with n storytelling, just like your channel!!
It's important to note two things here about PAVN strategy that would endure throughout the Vietnam War: the use of established defensive positions, and the ability to conduct coordinated withdrawals that American forces could not pursue.
Especially if they withdrew into Laos or Cambodia.
I’ve been waiting for this video!!!
Awesome video as always
The movie "We were soldiers" is a very good film about the battle.
Absolutely bullshit
I’d love to see a episode on Bien Dien Phu.
I have been looking, not much available.
Amazing art and contents from Armchair Historian
Wicked video, you are a great narrator.
Glad there is more Cold war stuff coming from this channel!
Slight error by the animators. In your story, you depict Hal Moore's rank as COL, but he was LTC while serving as a Battalion CDR. You guys should've also touched on Joseph Galloway's reporting and contributions. The lead Pilot-in-Commnd that day "Snake" was also an un-sung hero of this battle. Great work overall though!
Snake won the Medal of Honor
You “win” the Medal of Honor. You “earn” it and it is rewarded. An interesting point is the whole concept of awards in Vietnam. The lower the rank the lower the award in general terms. A second point is the award given in the field was subject to review years later for potential upgrade. The Medal of Honor was not awarded to Bruce Crandall until years after he had retired. The highest award for an Army Aviator in the Ia Drang battle went to Ken Jayne and Will Bennett. They received the Silver Start for repeated flights into LZ Albany. Bruce was awarded a Distinguished Flying Cross which was later upgraded. Not diminishing the heroism of Bruce , just setting the record straight on the process
When being taught about this war in history classes in Vietnam, there was a saying that summarizes the tactics countering the US's reliance on air-support and fire-support that ingrained into my memories over the years: "Nắm thắt lưng địch mà đánh" - "Grab the enemy by the belt and attack." Which means that the forces would try to close in to the enemy undetected as much as possible before open-fire. This was applied across the forces and bared many success over the course of the war.
Great video Armchair historian I love your videos you do a great job