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The Vietnam War is a highly controversial topic at the best of times. But during their many debates on the subject, Western historians rarely pause to consider how the conflict was seen through the eyes of the Vietnamese people, either North or South. This video seeks to explore that little-known perspective, analysing the thoughts and motives behind perhaps the strangest, yet most persistent communist governments in Asia.
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I do want to make a few additional comments as well:
- We do not claim that the Gulf of Tonkin incident was a legitimate excuse for US intervention. The (second part of the attack) was fabricated as a means to go to war with North Vietnam. Secondly, I never stated that the US was ever justified in its intervention in Vietnam, in fact, I personally do not think the US was justified.
- We did not show the Ho Chi Minh quote at 7:34 in its full context, which is an honest mistake of ours. We fully take responsibility for that.
- We did not mention the use of Agent Orange, which we think would be a very interesting topic for a follow-up video. We regret not mentioning chemical warfare in this video.
Can you make more videos about other proxy wars and battles in the Cold War, such as the Bay of Pigs invasion, the Anglo-Franco-Israeli invasion of the Sinai and the Suez canal, the Korean war,, the afghan-soviet war, the Civil wars in Central America, the Angolan Civil War with Cuban and South African intervention, etc.
Could you maybe do an episode about the 1999 bombing of Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro)?
They are suggesting videos, so I will suggest only one: Something related to the middle ages, I mean I love XX century history, but variation is always better
Great vid
Greatly appreciated this documentation! I hope that the team can further complete the piece of the puzzle by shining a light towards the Third Indochina War which has been mostly forgotten in history. I'm looking forward to it!
so near the end u say that the domino theory was proved wrong because communism didnt spread to the rest of south east asia which i find confusing because i seem to recall both Laos and Cambodia becoming communist, and that Laos like Vietnam is still ideologically communist today
My grandpa is now 90. He's a Vietnamese. He fought the French since he was 13, then the Japanese when he was 15. He later on joined Viet Cong to fight the Americans. He was captured twice, brutally tortured (which resulted in 10 missing teeth and a bullet in his shoulders; the shrapnel still remains inside his body). He was released when the war ended, happily marched into the city of Saigon. The joy didn't last long. He marched towards the Northern border to fight of Chinese forces in 1979 and later joined the Expeditionary forces in Cambodia to fight Pol Pot. Of course he's now retired. His name is Nguyen Van Dong - alive and well. Three of his sons died during the war, two of them were only 9 and 10 when they died (of a bomb raid which hit their shelter). He grieved as much as anyone would when they lost their love ones. My mother is his 9th child, and also the last child. He kept a lot of medals inside his cabinet in the rural province of Ben Tre. He also kept a picture of me since I have gone studied abroad in Hungary. He said that he survived too many wars, and he hoped that he would also live until the day I returned which is 3 years from now. I love him more than anyone.
Update: he's still doing well, just received his 2nd jab. Still one year left to my graduation. Can't wait to see him!
Update: he’s doing well, should say he’s now 92. Grandma can’t hear well, so they can’t really talk to each other (without shouting). It’s sad to see how you can see each other, but can’t hear what the other says. I hope there’s a way to fix this.
Update: he’s currently undergoing extensive treatment from a stroke he had. It’s not promising ngl. He told me he’s gonna wait until the day I come back…
Last update: hi everyone, i hope anyone’s reading this is doing alright. It’s unfortunate to announce that my grandfather passed away yesterday in his sleep on the 30th of January 2023. He’s 93 years old. He couldn’t keep his promise of staying alive until the day i get back. It’s only 5 months left…I’m in a really bad place. I lighted a candle in a church in Vienna, hoping that he can rest in peace, always overlooking me as I grow up. I sincerely thank everyone for their kind comments. I guess this is the end of our story.
Additional update: this is a sad update. My grandma also passed away today, on 26th of March, 2024. She’s 90 and had dementia. I’m very sad but also somewhat relieved now that she can reunite with my grandpa, although I love her so so much. I would like to thank everyone again for their lovely wishes. Your attention makes their story so much more meaningful. I hope we can all carry their stories and memories to our heart so that they can forever live within us.
With much love,
Simon.
That's incredible, he's seen so much. Thanks for sharing, I'd love to visit vietnam, I hear it's beautiful.
@@Timoshemperoni You should. It’s relatively cheap, amazing food, friendly people. I’d advise you to spend only a couple of days in Hanoi or Ho Chi Minh. Spend your time more in some other regions as well because they’re really underrated. Hope you can make it.
@@leeqyocthai thanks very much, I hope too, as soon as this virus is contained and life is back to normal.
Lots of respect to your grandfather!
I will repeat what I have already commented under the video:
I am from the Czech republic and Vietnamese make up the third largest minority (after Slovaks and Ukrainians) since a lot of them came here to study when Czechoslovakia was still a socialist country and they decided to stay mostly due to the economic reasons. From my point of view they are very pleasant hard-working people adapting to the new enviroment better than the Arabs and Africans in Germany or France. Best wishes to your family and all Vietnamese people. 🇨🇿🤝🇻🇳
God bless your grandpa.
It’s still impressive how Vietnam faced off against giants like the French Empire, the Japanese Empire, the US, China, and on top of that still managed to invade and retain successfully Cambodia and stop a g$nocide. Simply impressive.
Oh, and mongols! They freaking outstanded two or three mongol invasions. I guess not even the mongols are exception in Vietnam
@@anobstinatecephalopod4605 iwtnamese general put giant spikes in the shore
Vietnamese have fighter spirits in them. Small country but hella bold when they try to protect their homeland.
Don't forget about the Mongols. They invaded Vietnam as well.
Also they survived the coconut pirates invasions
Ho Chi Minh spent years in Western countries like the US, England and France and even in some African countries. He is not a guy that you would assume as being brainwashed but actually effectively fusing different ideologies. In the US he spent a long time observing the black rights movement and got in touch with many black leaders. Abraham Lincoln's ideologies heavily influenced Ho Chi Minh to the point that parts of Lincoln's speech about human rights were referenced in Vietnam Independence Declaration
Let's not forget that there is a quote of Washington in the Vietnam manifesto
You know the West is the protector of freedom of thought, therefore whoever thinks differently or contradicts them is not using their freedom to think, because no one free would think of thinking against them
Of all of the leaders to establish a movement and create a government in modern history, his record and beliefs are the most benevolent in my mind. Uncle was a fair and pragmatic leader who genuinely wanted a great future for EVERYONE in Vietnam. One Vietnam, One People. He spent a lot of time trying to unify the region, not just Vietnam and went to numerous peace talks, trying to court cooperation with the world during his days of exile and travel. The only stains on his record that I am aware of was the injustice enacted on farmers as the economy transitioned to a managed market economy as opposed to a state owned economy such as NK. The growing pains were hard and while not perfect, he is one of the few leaders who never murdered or mutilated his own population in the name of "freedom" or "development."
@@WhatWillYouFind Seriously wonder if South Vietnam reunification would have gone differently if Minh were still alive.
As an American soldier I will say this. God bless you Vietnamese. Brutal history, most unassuming people, and yet one of the best fighters on the planet. You have my respect
Funny because I doubt they respect you lol
@@_____..______340 On the contrary..Vietnamese people despise the growing crimes committed by the US Armed Forces, but after all this time, I think that every Vietnam veteran would see a soldier, an American veteran, as a former enemy, but also a companion in the same hell that they both went through..If they Russian/Soviet soldiers who "ran" half of Europe from Stalingrad and conquered Berlin, could shake hands and sympathize with ordinary German soldiers, members of the Wehrmacht (not the Waffen SS, they were beasts) in the early 1990s, and that was a world war, war to the point of extermination (if the Russians had lost, they would have disappeared as a nation!), I think that the veterans of a regional, difficult and tragic, but still regional war - could find understanding for each other. Wars are started by old men in armchairs, politicians, and ended by guys and men in the trenches, on both sides of which there is usually a similar hell during the entire course of the war, only the end is different (for the winner and the defeated)..
Many American said no to Vietnam War in that time. Vietnamese respect them and you, of course.
Fun fact: today Vietnam is supplied by America by trade and America also is defending Vietnam to counter China's influence in the South China Sea
@@ouyouliAmerica is a joke😂
“The Vietnamese people were confused why the Americans were invading and attacking them for no reason when they didn’t ever do anything to them...”. That narration hit me...
in that era it was the war for ideology dominance, now the US is in a new war of oil and lithium minerals.
@@Mike-oi2th it was also a competition for showing who’s boss which led to stronger trading power and thus more resources. So pretty much the same reason just under a different name
yep
my country was also confused why westerners randomly turned up and pretended to be nice to us
they were using it for shows when they were truly coming here to secure members for their battle for global superpower. good thing my country decided to become a member of the non-aligned movement
@@DISKEVIN speaking of war, china's military wouldnt dare to cause any trouble even though it only 2nd behind the US in term of military budget.
@@Mike-oi2th Wrong it's not a war for ideology, the dirty little secret is that the vietnam war was a war for cheap heroin so that pharmaceutical industry can make huge profits, thus leading to opioid crisis in the 2000s. Afghanistan is also another war for heroin. American soliders are guarding poppy fields in Afghanistan.
Vietnam had one strategy: you don't have to win, just don't lose. Outlasting the enemy, was the key.
Not true. The Tet offensive was a clear military victory.
The Vietnamese got that from another General who successfully threw off the Foreign rule from a distant Imperial power. I think his name was George Washington.
Yeah, that's attrition war for ya
General Westmoreland was confident that the US Armed Forces would win using the strategy of attrition warfare. For every American soldier killed, the US forces would kill 10 VC/NVA.
John Paul Vann, top US military advisor in Vietnam, calculated that to win in this fashion, the US of A would have to lose 500,000 dead and it would take 10 years to win. If North Vietnam had gone Total War and the Americans had decided to keep the war going using the same strategy, they would have to kill 5 million VC/NVA in 10 years time.
@@hendrikvanleeuwen9110 only militarily for the US. Tet offensive demoralized the American public and had dire effects that eventually quicken the US withdraw.
My mom's ancestor is Hoang Ke Viem, a general under Nguyen Dynasty. He lead people fought against France. Later on, the next generations always joined to fight against invasions. My mom old house used to be a weapon supply for Viet Cong. Her dad and other relatives are all soldiers.
It make me feel very proud about myself.
so you should be
Agree with you!
did she get executed in the land redistribution after 1945? many people supporting the Communist died in that campaign
Please let me give my respect for your family, the house of hero
imagine fighting for communism lol. The country is a shithole now. If North never took over South, South Vietnam would be similiar to South Korea.
Reading this brought tear in my eyes. I’ve been three times in Vietnam, and I love this country. Wish you all the best, a child of a real hero.
Comeback, we feed you Pho and ice coffee
@@HuyPham-km9kn 😂
With everything the world has done to Vietnam? They’re friendliness and welcoming nature has to be the 8th wonder. It’s incredible how optimistic and strong-willed they are as a people.
@Justus Immelmann I can't blame the Vietnamese for how they treated American POWs. They were fighting for their independence against a very unpopular regime (Propped up by foreign interests through oppression and corruption), and here come these foreigners who constantly bomb them and destroy their environment with chemical weapons.
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@Justus Immelmann problem is that's the literal truth no matter how you class it as "Commie Propaganda". Look if you want to be a US shill that's on you, but to actively deny a country's history is just plain idiotic. More so the fact that Vietnam isn't a communist country.
@Justus Immelmann Or you're the one who has been fed propaganda. If you're such a buff on the history of propaganda I'm sure you're familiar with The Church Committee and their findings. The fact of the matter is that US intervention caused untold hardship in both countries you mentioned, just as it did in Chile, Nicaragua, and still does in Colombia, Venezuela, and all parts of the Middle East, and that intervention is strictly for monetary gain, just as it was during the Banana Wars, the Philippines and so on. Capitalist imperialism is nothing new and it's only the extremely naive that could somehow believe all this foreign intervention is for the sake of benevolence or self-defense.
It's interesting that you also throw in the thinly veiled xenophobia of attacking the Viet Cong over war crimes when the United States' hands were just as dirty in that war. Perhaps better to realize that war is an awful thing that turns men into monsters no matter which side they're on and it's best to be avoided at all costs, instead of wasting countless lives and infinite money waging neverending war for the sake of arms-producers, news media, PMCs and other corporations.
The vietcong and south Vietnamese, USA all of them tortured ruthlessly and there is no good guy in this war.
“The Americans have freed us!”
“Oh I wouldn’t say freed, more like *under new management”*
14 N.Korean officers died in the Vietnam War. Thanks for your support. 🥰🥰
Oh Hi Kimmy western media was saying you got coma but you alive
How's the nuclear program Kim?
the human within No one won that war
@Johan T. Troff just basketball? can you say black people and get it over with.
As a Vietnamese citizen, I'm fully aware of how awful these wars were in regards of their impacts, even in today. Because my dad used to be a soldier fighting Mekong Delta in 1970s, he still made me think about the huge damage that the war gave to him. We all acknowledge that war cannot be the solution, it's just hurting innocent people's lives. These have gone pass but the lessons for today are never outdated to learn. That should be encouraged more for younger ones around the globe.
Well said.
you are saying war isn't a solution , but your parents fought for their freedom where you are a free citizen , from the history we always see that when it comes about right war is the only solution , look in Palestine , is negotiating is a solution there ? it's war that's the only solution , history is written by the victorious that's what they say .
War isn't the solution it's just highly profitable
I agree with a persons comment: war is profitable, only its who is making profit is the question.
Also we in the u.s have a saying,
War does not determine who is right - only who is left....
My aunt died in the Vietnam war, the reason is ridiculous: US soldier asked her if she know where VC soldiers are, she cant reply cuz she dont know any english, then they shoot her, this year, my father was only 2 yo. My grandmother told me she was so good, she took care everyone, everyday. Now i am 28, she still 10. Rest in peace, aunt! I dont know your face, but i heard all your story and i know i love you aunt
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Quê chú vùng nào vậy
Miền tây à ?
Lmao, I physically spit my drink out while reading this. Thanks for the laughs
@@gold-uzkon-user1697why tho
@@gold-uzkon-user1697this is real though
@@gold-uzkon-user1697 It's not funny.
Vietnam: Can we have freedom pls
France and Japan : Yesn't
"This is freedom! With extra steps-"
@@callumander4141 ok did I
ask if it was cringe?
@@callumander4141 Kids who call judge and call others “cringe” lack self awareness. No, you arent cool and quirky sorry not sorry
@@callumander4141 not cool or quirky
@@callumander4141 Not his fault you self report too much
Vietnamese: "Why are Americans invading our country? We have done nothing to them."
Iraqis: can relate
True
And some countries in South America
Bruh , you have too much oil and a bottle of salt
@@milokhanh313 Yes, with all the oil comes extra freedoms
Just wait, our new president who didn't steal the election at all, will get us into some more wars. Need to keep the war machine greased up.
When I was a kid, a friend of my father , who serves in Indian Navy , he narrated the Vietnamese freedom struggle , to date, i never forgotten....... I genuinely admire the courage of Vietnamese people.Moreover, it is now clear, that Nixon initiated the campaign to sabotage the My Lai massacre trials so no American soldier involved in the killings would be convicted of war crimes.
Nothing is more precious than independence and freedom.- Ho Chi Minh
I was once married to a Vietnamese woman and have been to Vietnam 3 times.
My observations from being in Vietnam.
1. Every home had a picture of Ho Chi Minh in their house included with their family shrine. When I asked my father in law about it (who didn’t speak a lick of English) answered me in plain English “Ho Chi Minh number one citizen”.
2. Everyone there was equal….equally poor. But happy and drunk, and worked very little. With eating and being drunk with family seemingly being the top priority.
My ex wife’s take on the war. Keep in king she was born, educated, and grew up most of her life in South Vietnam.
1. She knew of the puppet governments that ran south Vietnam for the west back then and knew of the woman that was in charge (can’t think of her name) and that she was particularly vicious.
2. She was and grew up to be extremely proud of the Vietnamese victory l. As she would say….
America came against the Vietnamese people with guns, helicopters, and planes. The Vietnamese people had rocks.
They used them rocks to take their Guns. They used those guns to take their grenades, and bazookas. They used their grenades, and bazookas to take their helicopters and planes. They used their helicopters and planes to win. Basically the idea that they had nothing and were being bullied by a stronger, richer nation. But they used their cunning and strength to turn the tide.
Although she was bought into the American way of life she was still very proud of what went on and that Vietnam won against such a powerful foe against all odds through pure strength and will.
the vietnamese did have guns at the start of the war, but they also did recycle a ton of american munitions to use against them.
the raw resourcefulness in their traps was huge. they would take unexploded bombs as well as shrapnel and make makeshift mines. not to mention the classic spike traps.
the vietnamese also had more veteran troops than the US. they had finished fighting a war in the same jungle environment recently after all.
The tons of bomb which were used in WW2, were even much lesser than the tons of bombs which were used against North Vietnam
Vietnam survived on its own against imperialist Japanese, French, American, and Chinese forces; and then went on saving the Cambodians from the genocidal UN-backed Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge while suffering from vicious economic sanctions. What a remarkable feat of determination and goodwill!
The Khmer Rouge wasn't really backed by the UN as a whole just largely communist leaning countries and was a puppet of China hence why they tried to invade Vietnam in the 70s. Not sure if you are calling the Americans imperialist or not though but they aren't.
@@noticedruid4985 The US also supported pol pot so...
@@noticedruid4985 The CIA funded Pol Pot & had agents in his 'peoples militias' Pol Pot only got to power because of the CIA, too.
The US is most definetly imperialist, and always has.
Wow , i mean that is true but most people don’t even know that . They always rely my comments like “North Communist Party” are too aggressive and invaded countries that ARE US ally . And all actions Americans did is RiGHT , to stop communism, help ally , give them strength... but failed to save xD
@@noticedruid4985 the US coerced Thailand into sheltering Pol Pot remnants after they were driven away by Cambodia so they could stage guerilla warfare against the Vietnamese and the new Cambodia government. They also provide naval and intelligent support to the Chinese during China invasion into North Vietnam and promise to step in if the USSR decided to retaliate.
Vietnam: I thought America would help liberate us from the oppressors....
Neigbhoring Philippines:
*F i r s t t i m e ?*
Great comment. Laughed out loud !
Emilio Aguinaldo was a douche. If he wasn’t, Philippines would’ve be pre-Vietnam. (Yes I know Vietnam had foreign support, but the Philippines did get foreign support from Japan)
We would then be speaking Spanish instead of English
US policy was always to give the Philippines their independence and it became law to due so in 1935. The Philippines were a few years from getting their independence when the Japanese invaded. We possessed Cuba too after the Spanish American War and they became independent in 1902.
@@hamanakohamaneko7028
Philippines have foreign support....
Which sank en route due to a storm, together with all the rifles and the ammunition🤣👌
As a foreigner recently living in Vietnam, I am realising that there is so much about Vietnam propagated in the West that is (perhaps unsurprisingly) one-sided and bias, but has managed to linger in popular culture for so long. Uncovering it myself in-situ has been eye-opening and videos like this help greatly.
Kudos to this video for highlighting the century of conflict (indeed millenia considering the Chinese) that Vietnam has endured. Context is everything and so much context is missing from the West's understanding of Vietnam.
As an example, the most surprising for me was Vietnam's subsequent fight *against* the Khmer in Cambodia, which was another communist regime. Communism is used so liberally to paint over what are complex situations, so I'm glad this video finished by saying that the underlying motivation of the Vietnamese was that of unification and liberty, adding much-needed context to what is typically seen as a one-dimensional story.
Are you insane? Most 'western information' about the War is sympathetic to the North Vietnamese.
They only clashed because Khmer Rouge believed after Khmer Issarak, and Laos Issarak (freedom fighter rebels) help Vietnam defeated U.S, Ho Chi Minh agenda changed toward the non Vietnamese rebel groups and believed he wanted to unifed Indochina under Vietnam policy ( to fight off their number one enemy China).
Khmer Rouge believed Vietnam was setting up puppets / agents in the Khmer Rouge camp to overthrow their party. This lead to slaughtering innocent Cambodian civilans and murdered 4,500 Vietnamese mention in history. Khmer Rouge was close with Viet Minh. They also trained Khmer Rouge until 1970.
Pol Pot also relocated majority Khmer population to the countryside after U.S illgeally bombed neutral Cambodia in Ho Chi Minh Trail. ..
@@sppro994 America tried to cover for the Khmer Rouge specifically to get even with losing to the Vietnamese. Henry Kissinger is a war criminal who protects other war cirminals.
I still remember my grandma's stories about the war she experienced in the past. It was really horrible. My grandma had many narrow escapes from death. She has an elder brother and she is heartbroken whenever she tells me about him. He died while fighting at Quang Tri Citadel which is called "the meat grinder". He was extremely happy the day he could go and fight for his country. He said that fighting all his heart for his country is worth it even if he could die. I still can't imagine how I would be if I were born at that time
ចោរវៀតណាម😂😂
You guys are just land thieves. robbed everything from us prone to violence You guys are worthless in our eyes
@@user-zc7zu1dt6b your comments is nonsense
@@user-zc7zu1dt6b Thái Lan hèn nhát trước quân đội nhân dân Việt Nam 🇻🇳🤣
@@thuyyouto Cambodians have the longest history in the world. And our country is developing, our future will be more prosperous than Vietnam. Vietnamese people will envy us. That's the truth 🤗🇰🇭✌️
The animation has definitely come a long way, love the content.
Still too much gratuitous swaying though.
It’s still trash lol nothing improved
@@KeysAndDoorss
Woah Hater alert.
Yeah it really has. I've been watching for a few years and it's quite obvious it has, especially the maps.
It's not supposed to be 100% life like and I think some mongoloids don't understand that and still attack it.
@@KeysAndDoorss then why are you watching?
As a Vietnamese, my dad always has a funny saying: "The invaders of Vietnam never won, because there was nothing to win in Vietnam!"
This is because Vietnam was a very poor and rural country, if there was an invasion, Vietnamese would burn down their straw huts (which are flammable) and run to the South. The invaders never got anything from the invasion.
Vietnam were always the underdogs, but they had determination!
Oh you are a Vietnamese too hello bạn
@@Fj-OuterSans Alo!
I like you guys a lot, i have a few viet friends and they are amazing! Keep strong we look at you whit sorrow from Russia.
Quan Le bạn khỏe ko
@@FIRE_STORMFOX-3692 thanks guy, hope u well. Love from Vietnam
Vietnam might be the best country I’ve ever visited in terms of cost vs standard of living. It’s a very nice country full of awesome people.
Welcome to Vietnam. Hope to see you again in Vietnam. Love from Hochiminh city
Thank You❤
Thank you for this. Even as a child growing up in the US, I never understood why the Vietnamese were always portrayed as evil commies when they really had no choice. They wanted freedom. They helped the US in WW2. And then were led back into colonialism when the French came back.
They were freedom fighters trying to fight off foreign invaders who wanted to exploit their people and land. The French and US government forced them into the arms of communism.
Đúng vậy, Tôi là người Bắc Việt. Thực tế ngày xưa trình độ văn hóa của người dân Việt Nam rất thấp, Không biết Cộng Sản là gì. Chỉ biết là muốn đánh đuổi Người Pháp cai trị hà khắc Việt Nam lúc đó, (Chủ nghĩa đế quốc - tình hình chung thế giới lúc đó).
Đến ngày nay cũng vậy. Vì vậy người dân nước tôi chỉ đánh vì Việt Nam chứ không biết chế độ là gì.
Tôi lấy làm rất tiếc khi Hoa Kỳ đã không giúp Việt Nam đuổi người Pháp đi. Nếu Hoa Kỳ thực sự muốn thay đổi chế độ cộng sản ở Việt Nam, Thời điểm đó là rất thích hợp và hoàn toàn có thể. Lúc đó chế độ của Việt Nam sẽ được như Phương Tây - Mỹ ngày nay. (Nói thật có rất nhiều điểm trong chế độ của các bạn mà người Bắc Việt và Nam Việt chúng tôi rất thích, Nhất là ngày nay đang toàn cầu hóa ). Và thời điểm đó tổng thống của Việt Nam sẽ là Hồ Chí Minh rất khôn ngoan để giữ vững Việt Nam và giúp đỡ Hoa Kỳ như 1 đồng minh Uy tín thật sự.
Nhưng Mỹ vì "sợ" đối đầu với Pháp nên đã chọn Pháp thay vì Việt Nam. Sau đó thì khi Pháp thua chạy thì những người cầm Quyền Mỹ lại "tham lam" muốn thay thế Pháp ở Việt Nam. Quả là 1 chính sách đi vào lòng đất và sai lầm nghiêm trọng của Mỹ.
all you said were true except for the WW2 one
Finally some few american who are truly educated and are not delusional.
@@dcmessitinh5854 bạn nói trình độ văn hoá thấp là sai rồi, chính Pháp là kẻ thực hiện chính sách ngu dân, chia để trị, và để dân ta mù chữ trong khoảng tgian bị xâm lược, còn trình độ phần lớn VN lúc trc khi bị xâm lc theo Nho giáo nên rất coi trọng việc học nhé
This is great as it shows a perspective rarely asked about. Also when are we going to learn about the armchair?
I would like your comment but it is at 69 therefore I cannot. (nice)
The true mistery is, what's the history behind the armchair!
@The Clown nice
he says he's an armchair historian, but he probably can't even name 3 armchairs
Yea i came here for history of armchairs. I feel mislead. Cheated and absolutely lied too. Lol nah for real this channel is amazing, great info and entertaining.
My grandpa fought the French, my uncles fought the American and Polpot (Red Khmer), my father fought in Chinese invasion (80s), so I can imagine the wars through their stories. And my father always say that after going through wars, we Vietnamese appreciate peace even more.
Amazing family history.
@@twohooks3533 It is normal in Vietnam. Thank you anyway. I'm really proud of my family.
I respect you learning from my family past I think about hate and suffering during that war but for now I think continue moving forward love your family and friends I hope you have good day. from Vietnamese American
I bet your father mentioned nothing about Land Reform or Cultural Revolution. Those things happened during "Peace" time.
I grew up listening to my father's stories everyday, until one day reality slapped me in the face and told me that "Your father's stories are b****, wake the f***k up".
Vietnam was one south part was under colonialism and then under American .
My grandmother was a VC soldier, participating in the resistance war as a guerilla and intelligent against the US and the Korean Tiger troop in Binh Dinh province. During the day she lived like a normal person, but at night she fought against the American. During the war, My grandmother was pregnant and gave birth to my father in the Jungle. I remembered her telling me that she had to leave my father in the jungle to avoid being detected by American soldiers all night. The next day, when the situation was stable, she brought my father back, fortunately he was fine. My grandfather at that time, was a medical soldier of the North vietnamese army, was mobilized to the South right before the birth of my father, so he was born without knowing who his father was, and my grandmother did not reveal this to my father, because she was afraid that my father might accidentally tell others and suspect that she was a Viet Cong. Therefore, my father grew up suffering from being mocked by his friends, as an illegitimate son, until peace was restored, my grandfather returned from the battlefield, and since then he told me that he has always been proud that his father is a hero.
This is epic
Nothing but respect to the Vietnamese people, nothing more beautiful then proud people of their lands
Finally Vietnam war that’s not from the American perspective
Please try the Ken Burns doc on vietnam. It covers all THREE sides.
It really is though. It's all about the Vietnamese soldiers and whatnot, completely forgetting that the South Vietnam army fought against the north in what was a Civil war
@@loganholmberg2295 North Vietnamese, South Vietnamese and US, comrade?
@@comradekenobi6908 i think thats what he means
@American Medusa americans are biased
Omg finally someone posted history of Vietnam that’s not boring and actually helpful thank you!
Right? Tired of the nationalist perspective, i.e. "America beat the commies all the way back to their own shores. They beat the commies so bad that they let them stay communist cause they weren't even scurrd. Take that commies"
@@marinecor23 What... When has anybody ever said this lol?
@@marinecor23 Mostly all Americans, even the media acknowledge that we lost the Vietnam War
Yes
@@opfoca1oparrowmarinerecon154 it's gotten better, still not gonna take the bitterness out of my mouth from what we were having crammed down our throats as "history" in grade school. 🙄😂😂
My daughter Emily is living and working in Vietnam and tells me she feels very safe there. Lovely people who just want to get on with their lives.
Ê-mi-ly, con ơi!
Trời sắp tối rồi...
Cha không bế con về được nữa!
Khi đã sáng bùng lên ngọn lửa
Đêm nay mẹ đến tìm con
Con sẽ ôm lấy mẹ mà hôn
Cho cha nhé
Và con sẽ nói giùm với mẹ:
Cha đi vui, xin mẹ đừng buồn!
"We would rather sacrifice everything than lose our country, definitely refuse to be slaves! Nothing is more precious than independence and freedom!" A legendary saying of the great leader of my nation, Ho Chi Minh, a short saying that is associated with the nation and that sentence is always in my mind. I am Vietnamese and I am very proud of my forefathers and my people. I am 23 years old this year, but since I was 15 years old, I have learned about my own national history. Especially about the resistance war against the US, the biggest and most glorious war of my people, if you ask what hell is like, let's talk about the war in Vietnam. Our forefathers have from bare feet and empty hands brought Glory and Pride to the nation and us generations to come. GLORY FOR VIETNAM!
South Vietnam was free until the North and the VC invaded and mass murdered millions, put people into concentration camps and then ruled as a dictatorship. That is 'freedom'?
The United States was defending South Vietnam. Which was invaded by North Vietnam unprovoked, South Vietnam did nothing to deserve this war. The United States stepped in to defend South Vietnam, North Vietnam took away the freedoms and the will of the people in South Vietnam, not to mention the countless atrocities the North committed against them. This war was not glorious in any way, its a travesty a dictator bent on growing his influence by destroying the lives of millions of people. A once prosperous South Vietnam destroyed by the North now forced to suffer poor conditions that exist in Vietnam today.
"Why is a mother airplane dropping baby airplanes. " That hit different.
@@Corgi_fax You see, when an aircraft ordinance technician and strategic bomber pilot love each other very much......
Because She wanted to decrease monthly expenses
B 57s were not used in Nam, btw.
and maybe because she forgot to use protection
@@DawnOfTheDead991 are you sure about that?
The more I learned about this conflict and the context behind it. The more I learned that I didn’t know as much as I thought I did.
Yeah I know what you mean. Plus Vietnam gives a lot of inspiration for better or worse, about how a people of a country can be determined and by willingly to fight for what they believe in. Just look at countries such as Afghanistan. The Soviets were there for a decade from 1979 to 1989 and now the US has been there for 20 years! From 2001 to now.
@Sterling Archer the soviets & Russians where in Vietnam from 73-75 why America pulled out,
@Sterling Archer look up indo China war, it’s where it really started, the French had Laos Cambodia & Vietnam,
Also America helped Vietnam in WW2 by training & giving arms, Oss now known as today as CIA
Trained hoi chi meng
If you haven’t watch Ken Burns the Vietnam war. It’s long but it’s the best and most accurate Vietnam documentary I’ve ever seen.
@@macmiller1678 I’m a check it out, this guy left a lot out, my uncle fought in Laos in 1968-1971
This gave me a great perspective on the Vietnam war, thank you for making this. I especially liked the info boxes on the side with additional info and facts
This is the best and most concise summary of the Vietnam conflict I've ever heard. Well done!
Wow no wonder US history never talks about this,
My school anyway has been learning about the vietnam war for the past week and a half now but I really don't know for other schools
Honestly depends on where you are. Some places teach about our wrongdoings, some don’t.
US History talks about our perspective and how we fighting to destroy Communism
I literally never heard pf that massacre until this video and i consider myself a war buff.
@@Bagheera2 You're not a very good war buff
When I was growing up in USSR in the 80s and 90s people used to collect stamps. Many of these stamps were from VietNam and probably 90% of them had images of Vietnamese art depicting Vietnamese fighting the war, and various scary pictures of war.
Interesting comment.
Is it true that the USSR isn’t that bad of a place that the west depicts it?
@@rusty3073 Depends on the time you meant, but in general according to my family - yes, it was not an actual padadise of course, but it wasn't that bad as western historians claims it was. Unfortunately with current attempts to rewrite history this claim is true only if there're a lot of witnesses left, who actually lived in the USSR and knew it from personal experience instead of history textbooks. But things will change in a future, when there's no one left. Even in Russia today there's a big difference of opinion between people who was born in raised in the USSR and who was born later, can't imagine what people in the west is thinking on the subject when the only source they can rely on is their history textbooks. I can at least ask my family and there's no reason for them to lie to me, can't really say the same about historians.
@@strongpoke Would you believe that Russia is better off with the USSR than the Federation today?
@@strongpoke And what makes you sure that they aren’t being biased about it?
There are two things of vietnamese which may suprise the foreigner, 1. vietnamese parent never teach children to hate someone who hurted us in the past. 2. Vietnamese love their family too much, loving is the only thing we was teached after wars, so, we fighted only for what we love, it is not because of what we hated.
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Thanks for sharing this. I like the animations as well. I've heard a lot of these names, but never really knew the history and politics behind it.
American General: any village you encounter is a free firing zone
Vietnam General: we just recruited 10,000 men with zero effort
Interesting how when yankees killed unarmed Vietnamese rice farmers, the numbers of Viet Cong didn't go down, but _up_
Aand it didn't reduce the motivation of the guerrillas, it increased it
@@aurin_komak My comments might show some bias towards Vietnam bc well i'm still vietnamese but ye, we dont really care about communism or capitalism. We just want to see our families be able to live happily. That is a large factor in Vietnamese morale during the time, seeing the bombing only ignited us more to die for the sake our families being able to live in peace. Because if it was true that we are fighting solely for whatever communism is we would have already fallen XD
The modern version:
American General: any village you encounter is a free droning zone
Iraqi General: we just recruited 10,000 men with zero effort
Yep. South Vietnamese generals recruited many men eager to defend Vietnam from the Communists.
@@tedmccarron And when the commies came to Saigon, they all dropped their gears and uniforms and ran instead of resisting. Yeah, very eager. The Germans put up way better resistance than them.
My mother was was a student in one Moscow university at that time. She remember seeing multiple Vietnamise people living in there dorm aswell. She didn't know who they were. May be exchange students. They looked a little bit old for students. One time she was bored so she went to a cinema club in their student dorm. There was only her and 1 Vietnamese guy. The move was "Cranes are Flying
" - a tragic soviet movie about ww2, where girl is waiting for beloved one to come back from frontline but he died. At the end of the movie my mom saw sietnamese guy started to cry. Movie was sad but, she saw that it resonated a lot with him. She asked if he is ok, and why he is crying. He said that he was vietcong soldier and has been fighting for most of his life. For his action he was promoted and send by the communist party to Moscow to get higher education. That he is almost 50 years old while average age of living in Vietnam at that time was 60. He didn't have much time to live and was f%cking tired of war and this education he needed to get, and the only thing he wanted was peace and be left alone. That was a heavy for my mom. WW2 ended before she was born and Vietnam was something very distant and informed only by state media in a way of "glorious and patriotic working people of Vietnam are fighting against imperialist aggression". And here he was - tired and broken man, having his life devastated by the war
The man could've been Ho Chi Minh himself. But we'll never know
Your the realist one on this bs comment section
@Disney Asia Official you missed the point
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I wonder people commenting below really read your comment. Lol. They thought you are praise the North but in fact, it was the opposite. One particular is Disney Asia Official. I found this really funny.
Actually in Vietnam many families are the mix of North and South factions and they all know and feel normal. They may quarrel with outsiders about history, about factions, but at home they are still happy and get along with the rest of the family even though they know that the other half has supported a different faction.
My grandfather's brother used to support the South side, while my grandfather's family has always supported the North side, until now the two sides still stay connected and very familiar. I don't understand why, but I think part of it is that my grandfather's brother was not on the official payroll and did not directly participate in combat and was not in a high position in the Saigon system at that time.
What a great video! As a young Vietnamese watching this video, I am crying because of the pain of my people had been through. I wish the US and Vietnam kept the good relationship as it was after the defeat of Japanese but I guess the US couldn’t just ignore their long time friendship with French either.
Aa a muslim-American, I can't help but feel sad for the Vietnamese because of how similar the war is to Afghanistan. Neither countries can ever be conquered, but many still suffered.
I'm an American, and I believe we should've helped Ho Chi Minh fight the French and the Chinese when he asked for help. But we were far too busy pleasing our allies and Stalin to help Vietnam. It saddens me that we had turned our backs on our ideals of freedom and independence from foreign nations so far that we were willing to let a nation that specifically asked for our help, fall to the tyrannical influence of Russian and Chinese communism.
@@DEFC0NZER0 no no no, Us and france dont has different. you dont know about your goverment and your leaders. They want money, more and more and never enough. your goverment and greedy fat cat bussinessman dont better than china goverment. And now Vietnam goverment is bad too. Iraq new goverment ( friend of us) is corrupt too. Politic-> power -> money -> greedy guys like politic. God dont like greedy guys but satan like them. Capitalism or comutilism is bad too because always greedy guy is leader. us goverment dont care Vietnam, they never help us fight with france. and china, russian help us because we fight with capitalism france and us. but you see? france and us capitalism, and Uk,..... go to 3 world country to power and money. what good of capitalism? because it to bad so commutilsm were born.
Nobody cares shut up.
@@DEFC0NZER0 Americans are truly hypocritical. The source of turmoil in this world is you United States. China has not experienced war about 40 years. You Americans are waging wars around the world, for example, Kosovo, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, and Libya are all American battlefields.
Dear Griffin Johnson
You claim to be an armchair historian, yet you have not produced a single video on Armchairs.
- Your fans
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I agree, I have watched hours and hours of these videos with no sign anywhere in regards to the history of armchairs! This is an outrage!! My feelings are hurt!!
Griffin Johnson: "OOOHHH what a humiliating defeat, i know when I am beat. So of course take a seat."
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My history teacher told us about a meeting between US and Vietnamese veterans decades after this war. The US veterans asked their former enemies why they were so willing to fight and die for communism. The Vietnamese veterans responded: "We were not fighting for communism, we were fighting for Vietnam."
I'm a US Navy veteran, served in the Gulf war. Now that I know alot of things I didn't then, I am completely anti war. I get ALOT of crap from fellow veterans of all ages when I ask them...."who invaded whose county and for what reasons exactly?" And "If China ( or any other large military) showed up on OUR shores and brought us "freedom" and "liberty" by blowing up our cities and killing civilians, would we not fight back?
@@voiceofreason1208 Most wars are fought over resources and to maintain the power of the ruling classes not over morality and giving aid to other human beings. And yes I include all under that banner of the ruling classes, political left or right, culturally east or west, christian, muslim, whatever religion, whoever has the power wants more power and wealth and above all to safe guard that power and wealth.
the vietnamese should of asked the yanks why they where so willing to go and kill and risk dying in a country that was not theirs?
@@MusMasi and the same answer would likely be for the freedom of the Vietnamese people.
@@MusMasi cause white people stay tryna be in everybody's businesses lmfao
Vietnam has brought the world an enormous example of dignity and resistance. Long live to Vietnam people!!
Vietnamese people are not afraid of death. We are afraid our country will die
@Random they won the Vietnam War, what are you on about
@@ThePerpetualSavage damn, who knew being mass-murdered by the worlds most powerful nation, who counts any male killed as an enemy combatant by the way, results in a ton of dead combatants
the USA's high kill count in vietnam is not something to be proud of. it is one of the US's biggest shames
also they won
North Vietnamese were communist mass murderers who created a war that caused millions to die, conquered the South against their will and imprisoned 100's of thousands, executed 10's of thousands, and ruled with their dictatorship to this day. They are mass murdering psychopaths.
Dignity by invading its southern neighbor? No one says this about North Korea when they invaded their southern neighbor.
The part where Ho Chi Minh is doing his speech about “...life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” while two American OSS stand behind him as allies is just so ironic.
@Justus Immelmann What are you saying? Are you sympathetic to the German cause? If you are, then this signs to me a red flag. Please elaborate.
@@DarkxV12 tbh we wouldbe been better off if we didnt stop the democratic socialists in germany durong ww2. the communists and globalists gained major control of the world then
@@piotrplewa1889 You mean the one that the Nazis and the Commies hate since 1918?
@@DarkxV12 _The US & the British have backed the Khmers Rouge & China in the Sino-Vietnamese 1979 war_ ...
@Lady Bug love This is the correct answer. The rest of you can shut up with your received rationales.
A stardard ration of Vietnamese troops was 8 pound of rice, salt, and anything u could find in the jungle. My grandfather plattoon happened to stumble on a US ration package with a can of Spam and that was just their best day ever
My grandpa almost went in the vietnam war, he was drafted he was scared as heck but he always worked with my great grandpa so when he missed the recruiter my aunt and my grandpa went down to the office to enlist when they asked my grandpa if he wanted to join (it was optional) and he said no and they ran out of there filled with joy
his family has a lot of money and connections:)) I’m just kidding
@@trungvuuc11 lol
Very informative content. I think US that time just used the anti-communism sentiment. I am a Filipino, but I admire the Vietnamese people for their resiliency and willingness to fight and survive. I am for peace and democratic relationship. They were just fell victim from invaders. Watching this video, I fully understand that Vietnamese just want liberation and self-government. I am glad that Vietnam now has its sovereignty over their own nation and has been a very promising ASEAN member. Surely we can learn many things from them and use these knowledge in combating our modern day challenges. We are very proud of the Vietnamese people!
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No such thing as democratic relationship
The US used anti-communism to defend a self formed republic that already existed? This war and bloodshed was unnecessary and forced upon South Vietnam by their communist neighbors, they did nothing to deserve this. By this logic North Korea should be the ruling government of the Korean peninsula?
❤❤❤ love from vietnam
when everyone is talking about how the vietnamese are in the trees, but the tunnels are their most vital advantage.
*edit wow thanks for the likes, never thought it'd get this far*
@Linux4win *the trees are in the tunnels*
*A tree is just nature tunnelling into the sky*
The sky is tunneling down to earth
Nice flag
Tunnels were not an advantage. It was an achievement. Trees, mountains and marshes were natural conditions
The Vietnamese youth could still drop their tears every time when watching the kind of this video or something else that's similar. At least one of us had at least a family member who had died of the war in the past. The US had not even understood that Vietnam has 2.000 years of history fighting against invaders namely China, France, Japan and we have always won to hold back our freedom. Sadly, we had had to sacrifice a lot for nothing that we had done to the powerful countries.
Lol you Vietnamese are only proud of one thing .
@@a_l7515 stay away uneducated kid, go home, self-isolated and learn more about Vietnam
@@replyorratioifugaysaycrymo1684 Both you and A_L are wrong 😑
@@kiemtoankhue9479 commies
@@a_l7515 ok then what are you proud of then? a long history of racism?
Amazingly informative, insightful and well animated video. This is why history is important!
Thank you! Subscribed to your channel 🙏😉
12:30 i just love that you made a traced drawing of that crouched down VC with a SKS XDDD
Honestly this has gotta be one of the only channels that does modern history that I actually really like
Alternate history hub?
Modern history that you actually really like? What does that even mean?
@@Emanon... That it supports what you already believe.
"A man sees what he wants to see and disregards the rest"?
@@ProperLogicalDebate Or he could mean something he enjoys watching? Not a lot of History channels cover the Modern Day Wars, and if they do, it's usually in a single perspective.
The presentation is very digestible.
Honestly the more I learn of Vietnam, the more I gain admiration and respect for the Vietnamese people.
Thank you , love from Vietnam to you .
Same, all the best for Vietnamese
The more I learn about vietnam more Im disgusted by crimes of vietcong that hundred times outweighted US. Lets talk real history.
@@17MrLeon Tell us your real history then. With accurate proof and evidence of course.
@@17MrLeon Right you're historian then , mind give me the source of it , or all the documentary you found is one-side and those document always said USA is hero to stop Communism , Am I right ? So what is your thoughts about military ops that bring B52 and ton of bombs dropped into innocent civilian , and yet that is not enough for the US , how about Ma Lai ?? what is your opinion about landing troops on foreign's lands , will you call it invading ? And did you watch the video ?
This is so well written and well spoken. Good job!
My dad (black American) fought in the Vietnam war while his mother was back home in Selma, Alabama fighting for our freedom. My dad use to tell me that a few times while fighting in the jungle he and a Vietnamese soldier would cross paths unexpectedly then stare at each other. The Vietnamese always seemed confused to why a black man from America was helping the white man fight. Even they knew we barely had rights, was mistreated & many killed by our own countrymen because of our color. Unfortunately, after the confused pause a quick decision had to be made.
Ho Chi Minh knew all about it. HCM came to US and befriended many black civil right leaders like GArvey i believe
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“Ho Chi Minh”? That's interesting. There is still a lot about history I don't know. Thanks for the info.
@@ventnessflaw5332 HCM also wrote a pamphlet called it, "the Black Race." Him and Malcolm X shared the same birthdate. The man to me seems really cool.
@@youngvvyoungonevv8798 That is cool. I will look it up. I'm curious about what he wrote.
@@ventnessflaw5332hãy đọc một vài câu chuyện về tay đấm bốc Mohamed Ali trong chiến tranh Việt Nam , bạn sẽ hiểu rỏ hơn về con người Việt Nam chúng tôi
I'm Vietnamese. Thank you for all of your hard work studying and sharing my country's bloody and brutal history to the world.
Btw, this channel's animation is on point. He even got the Vietnamese version of Ho Chi Minh's Declaration of Independence.
I don't know that Vietnamese girls are this much beautiful as you. OMG you are so pretty 😍😍
@@debarghyaghosh1263 stop! Don't you dare to do that
@@debarghyaghosh1263 You actually wrote this under a comment like this under a video like this... Do you even think before you comment?
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@@lpflore what I have said wrong ? Whats the problem to say someone beautiful ?
*"All we wanted was peace, but the only choice that we had was to fight for it. After many sacrifices, it was finally over. The dream of a peaceful time has come true."*
Learning about Ho Chi Minh expecting the US to help him fight the French, it gave me an idea for an alternate history story about where the US does exactly that; help Ho Chi Minh in his fight against the French and Chinese
Vietnamese leaders always remember the saying, "There are no permanent enemies or permanent friends, only permanent national interests." Therefore, throughout the 20th century, Vietnam fought against many enemies, some of whom were even former allies, such as China, for example. However, territorial integrity and independence have always been the highest goals.
You do a great job researching content and nice animation and video production.
My grandfather and his best friend participated in the Polpot war in Cambodia. When the war ended, he went home with an amputated leg and his friend also lost an arm. The sad thing is that many of his friends have gone and will never return. Not only that, after the war, harsh sanctions were imposed on Vietnam, leading to the next generation living in poverty and hardship. Until now, being at peace and living in true freedom, I feel extremely grateful for the blood and blood sacrifices of my ancestors.
Your grandfather and friend did great things, they liberated Cambodia from a horrible man, I'm just a Colombian guy but I have a lot of respect for the Vietnamese people, I hope that one day there will be eternal peace
This is gonna be cringe to say and you may don’t like me, I respect you and listen to both North And South Vietnam soldier different point of view more better than one side on usa point of view. Hope you have good day dude and your grandpa doing well. From Vietnamese American.
@@GUNROCKS1990 don't worry it isn't cringe
@@GUNROCKS1990 you are right dude north vietnamese people eat too much propaganda and there are a loooot of their comments here it just sad to watch
@@Suwkng we have the north and you dont. End of the conversation
I was lucky enough to perform about 5 years ago for a ceremony with Vietnamese industrial leaders and the US Ambassador at an event in Hanoi. It was to celebrate ‘40 years of the normalization of trade’ between to the two nations and my band was a mix of Memphis musicians and Vietnamese musicians. My family had veterans from the war and I felt it was a full circle moment to share music and arts in peace. Thanks for the amazing content.
I think it was a a bit less than 40 years. That would have been on 1980. I was in HCM/Saigon in 1994 when President Clinton ended the trade embargo. Pepsi rolled out free soda to lots of people. According to the US State Dept website relations were normalized in ‘95. www.state.gov/u-s-relations-with-vietnam/
@@RobPetty622 cool. Thanks for the info. Well, I guess it was some type of celebration then of that 95 agreement which would make since to be 20 years not 40 years cuz I was there in 2015. Ford and FedEx reps and some other companies were there and I met the US ambassador and his husband (yes, he had a husband and they were so cute)
I worked for JC Penneys for 10 years until 2005. I would research inventory and contact vendors and do price changes. Suits purchased from Vietnam for $53 were being sold for $325 - $475. Capitalism and slavery at its finest.
That is so cool
It’s sad to think that Vietnam could’ve been one of the best allies in Asia for the United States only to be squandered in two decades of war
My dad would tell me about the atrocities committed against North about American soldiers and their brutality against civilians. This video truly tells people how the North wasn't as evil as they thought they were.
A little more context on that helicopter crew as that man desrrves to be recognized for his actions. This story was told to me during my service when we were discussing lawful orders.
Hugh Thompson was a reconnaissance helicopter crew tasked with flying over a village to determine if their harbored pro-vietcong sentiment. During this time all he saw was the bodies of Vietnamese civilians murdered by US forces. He then took his helicopter and landed in the line of fire of american troops and aimed their guns at the perpetrators to prevent more killings. After approaching the leadership and preventing more bloodshed he then was able to convince the civilians to leave their bunkers to be evacuated and flew a young injured child to a hospital (those reconnaissance helicopters dont have much room). Afterwards he announced on radio: “It looks to me like there’s an awful lot of unnecessary killing going on down there. Something ain’t right about this. There are bodies everywhere. There’s a ditch full of bodies that we saw. There’s something wrong here.” and filed a report that helped create a cease fire.
Later, he would testify against multiple U.S. army personnel and continued to fight to get justice. For his efforts he recieced death threats, people would leave dead animals on his porch, he ended up divorced with severe PTSD.
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i can see why people would send death threats, but why the dumping of animal corpses on his porch? whoever did those should realize that in their pursuit to prove their point, they became as vicious as the US invaders
My Lai is used as a case study at Sandhurst. Everyone in the British army will know this story. Incredibly brave.
The worst thing of war is when good men do nothing.... Thompson wasn't one of those men to do nothing
"Why are Americans invading our country? We have done nothing to them." What a candid and true statement.
If the US had invaded North Vietnam the war wouldn't have been a 13 year quagmire.
@@GudenMaust China: *You fell victim for one of the classic bunders*
@Cali_ Kid Are they burning your cities and killing your children by the thousands?
@Cali_ Kid Who is "foreign" to "America", clown? Ouf...
I guess it's candid and true by North Vietnamese propaganda standards. No Americans went into North Vietnam, not wanting to risk what happened in 1950. By contrast, the NVA sent thousands South.
Thank you for the education today. Watched video start to finish. Learned a lot!
My grandma is 87 years old this year, she still often tells me cruel stories about the war from the French colonial period whenever she meets me, although I hear a lot to boredom, but I know it haunts her past.
As Russian who studying Vietnam I can say, that from my perspective Ho Chi Minh was not only the best example of communist, but also one of the best national leaders. He devoted his life to find a way to free his country.
О, привет, товарищъ! А я смотрю ролики от Клима Жукова про Вьетнам и просвещаюсь
@@jennywhat6108 смотрю все про Вьетнам ибо это долг вьетнамиста)
@Greene Bertrand yep, sorry
You could add Giap, who started the fight with a dozen soldiers and built up an army of hundreds of thousand, beating major powers in the process.
hi Russian friends
And this isn't even mentioning how a few years after it won the war, Vietnam found itself at war with Communist China after declaring a protectorate war against the Chinese backed regime in Cambodia.
You're right. Watch the Ken burns 10 part doc on the veitnam war. Everything here is there plus soooo much more.
This also left out that Col. Dewey was killed in Vietnam before America joined the war entirely and is thought to be one of the reasons that U.S. government had no trust for Ho Chi Minh. Additionally, they sort of glazed over just how much Ho Chi Minh really didn't care for communism later on and how he was effectively ousted and just kept as a figurehead/icon for a chunk of the war.
It also explains, why the US and Vietnam today have a pretty solid and good relationship.
@@TheVoracity Yes that is the reason the Tet offensive was such a failure. Le Duan and his cronies launched it against the advice of Vo Giap, and Ho was too ill to stop him.
@@MagiconIce Simply put, enemy’s enemy is friend
Thank you for making this!
Hello Armchair Historian, I love your stuff and have been subscribed for quite some time. I know on your more recent videos' you provide the sources for them and this one is older, but may I please have the list of sources you used if you are able to find them?
My uncle died in Vietnam. My dad always insists that we were fighting for the wrong side.
yes
Well I honor your uncle's service. Some factors of the war was wrong yes I agree. Some were right. But overall both sides could have avoided the conflict
Yes, yes you did
@@VERRATENMEMESANDCOD The more I learn about the war, the more I agree with my dad. We should have freed the Vietnamese then worried about communism later. I’m part of the American Green Party and not as anti-Marxist as my dad and husband (both marines), but I still think we shouldn’t have been so distracted and convinced by that single word. Christianity still runs very deep in the US and I think they were more worried about the spread of atheism than Ho’s political agenda. I’m sad for my grandparents and dad.
@@simgingergirl See i know religion is very important in the us but the cold war was completely about ideology and global dominance. The us didnt want communism to spread. And the russians didnt want capitalism to spread. Thats why both countries technically choose sides. And yes all vietnam wanted was freedom but i dont think they still got it.
The Vietnamese defeated the Mongol Empire attacks as well. Badass neighbors.
Greetings from the Philippines.
I afroud of My country . Look like my country verry famous with you guys ..
Yup. Badassery at its finest.
@alo alo cmon man terrain or not many couldnt acheve a similar feat
@alo alo yeah like we kind of let the Mongols in for a few times (abandoning the cities, poisoning the water sources, cutting their supply routes and intercepting their supply sources) and then finally strike them at their weakest. And the Mongols fell for that 3 times (1258, 1285 and 1287-88)
@alo alo it the people who use the terrain. American was also struggling with the tree..
terrific video. Always make more sense to observe a thing from multiple angles in multi-dimension.
Huge respect to Vietnamese as a Filipino. This video is really heavy, fucking Americans used fellow Filipino to fight our friendly neighbor vietnam.
Vietnam and us relationship sum up "We could've been friends".
They are friends now lmao
Yep
@Adolf Hitler Ho Chi Minh*
If only we had the same attitude towards Vietnam as we did during the Suez Crisis...
Self determination. If some country wants to be a communistic one....
Vietnamese is an exemplary and inspiration to patriotism. I am so proud to be able to visit your beautiful country.
Its a late reply but on the behalf of Vietnamese I would like to thank you. If you have a chance please feel free to visit us again.
@@HuyPham-km9kn I’m American and I would just like to say that i love Vietnam. You went against all odds against Imperialism and Tyranny and liberated your people. Thank you.
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Hope you enjoyed your stay
Were the South Vietnamese that fought for their freedom and massacred by North, 'patriots' as well?
Big fan of your work dear @Armchair Historian.... Love from Bangladesh
I have a Vietnamese friend. Her father had studied at university in America before the war in Vietnam. His role in working for the north Vietnamese army was to listen in to American radio communications and translate them - helping the North Vietnamese know where American troops were being deployed and their plans and requests for help.
Ask the Vietnamese about "The Vietnam War", and they will ask "which war"?
They've had at least 4 wars in the 20th century.
EDIT Feb13th2021: Wow at 1.3K Likes. Just for repeating what some Vietnamese I've spoken to would say.
@ChuoiChuoi The U.S. should have kept its nose out of your country's business. All the horrific killing and for what? I just don't understand. I've never understood it. And they're still at it. Iraq, Afghanistan, the horn of Africa, Yemen.
@@tachyontee3877 its nature, not about America , not about China, not about Russian,.. particularly. Its all about nature, if Vietnam getting strength like Japan in Ww2 they will start to do some imperialist stuffs
@@hopha1403 Yeah, I guess so. Humanity is corrupt.
@@tachyontee3877 Vietnam didn't keep it's business out of Cambodia which led to millions dying
@@LogosTheos Still not the U.S.'s business. Those two countries should have dealt with it. Keep reaching. You might pull a muscle.
Can you make a video about the Emu war. But from the Emu's perspective.
Lol😂
With dialogue entirely made in Emu too.
They tried shooting us with machine guns. Little did they know that we Emu are surprisingly resistant the machine gun fire. Through this lack of understanding our victory was assured!
"Sir they have a truck with a Lewis machinegun. What are your orders?"
"Just keep running, Emus. Oh, and you must get yourself caught in the steering wheel too so we can stop it."
So anyway they started blasting
Knowledge is power, and inversely, lack of knowledge can become ironically anger from which power can be drawn.
As a Vietnamese born in a time of peace, I vow to protect my country at all costs 🇻🇳
The Vietnam war is like 2 neighbors having a dispute, then proceed to wreck a third person's home in another city.
Correct description
Surprisingly true
How?
@@AlexeiRamotar It was essentially a proxy war between the USSR and the US.
@@scottyotty2hotty so the Vietnamese were simply pawns? What about the anti-French Resistance war? Was that also a proxy war that the Vietnamese had no interest in fighting and were simply directed by Russians, French or Americans?
"Why is a mother Airplane dropping baby airplanes"
That's really sad. Like They didn't know what was happening.
i found it funny
@@ayannahigh5833 ok lol, I mean you wouldn't find it funny if you were standing in his position at that very moment when that exact thing is happening to you
@Ismael barrera yeah i have not
how bout you
@@subscribeFORaCOOKIE778 i found in funny in terms of dark humor
I'm currently visiting Vietnam, and just visited the war crimes museum in Ho Chin Minh. The pictures are heartbreaking. I can't take them out of my head. I'm not American, or from any country that colonized Vietnam, but the stories and pictures in that museum just makes me want to apologise to the Vietnamese people on humanity's behalf.
My brother, like most young black men at the time, was drafted in the army, to fight in Vietnam. A large number of white boys were able to hide in college or flee to Canada to avoid the draft. (Their refusal to serve was later pardon.)
When it was my time to serve, I also refused. At that time, the war began to wind down, soldiers were being discharged from the military services and I guess there was no desire to pursue draft resisters.
As a young black American, feeling that I was being mistreated by my own country, I would had still fought if the nation was being invaded.
I did not support going half way around the world to fight people, that had done nothing to me. In fact, I respected their determination to be free.
Most soldiers killed in Vietnam were white.
"They take the rice so we take the life" -Vietnamese soldier probably
Our rice field
I mean.. its fair
Kublai's letter to Vietnamese monarch Tran Thanh Tong (Tran Nhat huyen) in 1271:
"...I have pacified all four barbarians, all of them Hui hui (Uighur), To fan (Tibet) chiefs ... had come to submitted themselves to me. There's only you , the king of Annam didn't submitted me yet..."
@RogerwilcoFoxtrot *laugh in 5 failed US presidents
Considering that rice is the backbone to most east asian countries ration it makes totall sense
Failed to mention that the Gulf Of Tonkin incident was publicly verified as a false flag attack
He did mention it as a side note in an old video I think
like 9/11
It never happened. USA needed a reason to officially step in
@@amadeus4398 just no
Amen! I did my IA on whether or not the Tonkin incident was justified
So reading through the comments...robert smalls conversation and debate with most has been a impressive one. Whether you agree or disagree. That is what free speech is about regardless if it offends. I hope all understand those disagreements lead to enlightenment. I learned so much from all sides because of it. Both on a personal and historical level. I applaud everyone and i am deeply amazed. This my friends is the epitome of liberty. Which we find many trying to rewrite here in america. Which i hope never occurs. If it does we loose this innate ability to learn from every angel forth which allows us to better ourselves and our futures. I wish you all the best!
You have created world peace
Wow, this was a really good video. Thanks for this one.
I'm amazed by the comments, so many patriotic vietnam people telling story about their elders. Much respect from Indonesia. We SEA people endured so much war. Hope the problem in Myanmar, Thailand, and others SEA countries will be better. 🇮🇩
because most of our elders joined the war volutarily to fight for our homeland. The US or Southen VN have a place to run but we don't. Viet Nam is our homeland and we're not gonna go anywhere but fight.
I don't know what is happening in Thailand, whatever happens in Thailand is not comparable to Myanmar.
Civil war, military dictator and more than half of the country is on fire.
@@quocbaonguyen8308 what do you mean by Southerners have a place to run?
@@MeowTX well they escaped to the US though
Respect from Russia🇷🇺 We feel your pain😔
*flashbacks in French*
*oh no*
Oh no not French
fils chanceux est entendu en arrière-plan
*Flashbacks in RIP-off British*
uh oh
"The war can last for 5 years, 10 years, 20 years or longer, Hanoi, Hai Phong and some cities and factories may be destroyed, but the Vietnamese people are determined not to be afraid! Nothing is more precious than independence and freedom. On the day of victory, our people will rebuild our country in a more dignified, bigger and beautiful way! "
- President HO CHI MINH (July 17, 1966)
I visited The north in 2018. Hoping to see a beautiful country and its people at peace!! I was treated like a celebrity
Spent two months ! There with the aid of wonderful lady educator showing me the sights and sharing their rich heritage!! I even was asked to teach a few weeks at an international school.
I just love the country and it’s beautiful people! What we were told of the country then and now was mostly lies!! There are more small businesses there than in our cities! Being a retired teacher I was soo impressed with the young people!!
Cant weight to go back!!