47 Ronin - How to Waste a Movie | Anatomy of a Failure

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    47 Ronin is a Samurai tale set in Feudal Japan with Keanu Reeves as the "star". Despite being an outcast, Keanu must use his samurai sword skills to fight magical beasts and witches to save the hot princess. It just didn't work out so well, seeing as the movie became a flop and lost around a 100 million dollars. So today, let's try to see why. Why do the exciting elements of the movie go to waste? (Quite similar to my video on Seventh Son - How to Build a Cinematic Nightmare).
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    47 Ronin (2013)
    In feudal Japan, Lord Asano rules his province with fairness. However, jealous Lord Kira (Tadanobu Asano) fears that the shogun favors Asano over him and hatches a plot that ends with Asano's ritual suicide. After Asano's death, his samurai, led by Oishi (Hiroyuki Sanada), are forced to live as outcasts. Oishi wanders for several years but realizes that he must turn to Kai (Keanu Reeves), a mixed-blood warrior he once rejected, to help him and his ronin comrades take revenge on Lord Kira.
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    Seventh Son (2014)
    A powerful knight trains his young apprentice to do battle against a diabolical witch who is gathering an army to wage supernatural war on all of mankind in this adaptation of author Joseph Delaney's young-adult novel The Spook's Apprentice. Years ago, brave Master Gregory (Jeff Bridges) succeeded in capturing evil enchantress Mother Malkin (Julianne Moore), and locking her away to rot in prison. Now Mother Malkin has escaped, and she's hungry for revenge. As her followers gather power, the dreaded witch reveals her seventh son bad fantasy movies everything wrong with seventh son honest trailer worst fantasy movies RIPD the worst blockbuster you've never heard of infernal intentions to the noble knight who once imprisoned 47 ronin kai vs golem shapeshifting dragon scene her, and who dungeans and dragons movie new trailer official fantasy movies now has until the next full moon to train Tom Ward (Ben Barnes), the seventh son of a seventh son, to defend humanity against a threat whose evil knows no bounds.
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  • @jasonluna2919
    @jasonluna2919 Před 6 měsíci +1297

    Fun Fact: The 47 Ronin director Carl Erik Rinsch was given $55 million by Netflix for a new sci-fi series called Conquest, but took the money and ran.

    • @GojiraRising
      @GojiraRising Před 6 měsíci +135

      Perfect timing.

    • @THEINFINITIVERSESAGA
      @THEINFINITIVERSESAGA Před 6 měsíci +48

      4 R 😨is that Legal
      How he get away with it 😮

    • @Dave1507
      @Dave1507 Před 6 měsíci +221

      @@THEINFINITIVERSESAGA If it was legal, he wouldn't need to be on the run, would he?

    • @Gunnumn
      @Gunnumn Před 6 měsíci +85

      not only that, his wife left him shortly after.

    • @Blablabla20093
      @Blablabla20093 Před 6 měsíci +12

      But that not all.

  • @Spiderfisch
    @Spiderfisch Před 6 měsíci +693

    Its impressive how keanu reeves immediatly went from this shit to John Wick

    • @THEINFINITIVERSESAGA
      @THEINFINITIVERSESAGA Před 6 měsíci +36

      Wait hold up this was before John wick

    • @LuisSierra42
      @LuisSierra42 Před 6 měsíci +126

      @@THEINFINITIVERSESAGA Yep. john wick literally saved his career

    • @Reflectionmaterial
      @Reflectionmaterial Před 6 měsíci +23

      It was super fun. I loved how the Dutch place was like an excagaration of how a Japanese person must have experienced westerners.

    • @Towkeeyoh
      @Towkeeyoh Před 6 měsíci +11

      Cleary with the right material and people behind it, can make or break an actor's career.

    • @milosilic23
      @milosilic23 Před 6 měsíci +12

      But john wick was supposed to be a straight to dvd thing. It was an unexpected success

  • @joseph-fernando-piano
    @joseph-fernando-piano Před 6 měsíci +505

    One of my favourite pieces of trivia about this movie is that, based on RT scores, this movie (with a critic score of 16%) is neither the worst ("Hitman: Agent 47", 8%) nor the best ("47 Meters Down", 53%) movie from the 2010s with "47" in the title...

    • @aimanmarzuqi4804
      @aimanmarzuqi4804 Před 6 měsíci +43

      What the hell, that is absolutely random 😂

    • @piyushsahurkar9362
      @piyushsahurkar9362 Před 6 měsíci +4

      Hmm, interesting 🤔

    • @First_in_Last
      @First_in_Last Před 6 měsíci +7

      You must be smoking some

    • @prointernetuser
      @prointernetuser Před 6 měsíci +22

      This is oddly interesting and very pointless at the same time.

    • @FieldBoy111
      @FieldBoy111 Před 6 měsíci

      I remember seeing this movie In The theater and thought there was something weak and silly about it.

  • @roscojenkins7451
    @roscojenkins7451 Před 6 měsíci +77

    $150 million failure????
    Disney: hold my beer five times in 2023

  • @StevenConning
    @StevenConning Před 6 měsíci +161

    It's such a shame that the movie became this because there's a true story that this is based on. The one year gap, for example, was because the real ronin laid low for two years before enacting their plan. It was like the writers read notes about what really happened, then wrote a completely different story leaving some details in to keep the name "47 Ronin"...but the real events are much more interesting.
    It starts with two feudal lords ordered to prepare a reception for envoys of the Emperor at Edo castle. They were told why to do by an official in the shogunate, who later reprimanding the lords for not being generous enough in gifts or bribes. One lord lost his temper and made preparations to kill the official, but that lord's counselors convinced him to bribe the official instead. Then the official insulted the other lord, who had not responded to the previous offenses, but this time he finally snapped and attacked the official with a dagger, cutting his face before being separated by the guards. The attack happened on the grounds of Edo Castle, the shogun's residence, so it was a much more serious offense which required the feudal lord to commit seppuku.
    The feudal lords principal counselor, a samurai now ronin, moved the lord's family away before surrendering the property to the government. Then laid in wait in Kyoto, under constant surveillance for two years before gathering the other ronin in a secret location in Edo to renew their oaths to their former lord and get revenge on the official. They stormed the residence of the official and a large battle ensued. The ronin killed 16 and wounded 22, but couldn't find the official. Eventually they found an entrance to a secret courtyard behind large scroll where the official was hiding. The ronin knelt before him to show respect to his position, and offered him the same dagger that the feudal lord had used to commit seppuku with. The official remained speechless, trembling in fear, until the ronin gave up waiting for a response. The leader of the ronin then beheaded him with that same dagger, put out the lamps in the residence to prevent the possibility of a fire which could spread to the neighbors, and took the official's head to their lord's grave over 10km away.
    On the way to the grave, the ronin were met by people in the streets who had heard about what happened and offered them food, rest and praise. They arrived at the temple, cleaned the head and dagger, then placed both on their lords grave. They gave all their money to the temple's monk, asking the monk to pray for them and give them a proper burial before turning themselves into authorities. The shogunate didn't know what to do because the ronin had honored their oaths as samurai and taken revenge for their lord's death, but the same act went against the shogunate's authority as it had prohibited exacting revenge. The ronin were ordered to death and 46 committed seppuku, with the youngest being the son of the lead ronin at only 16 years old. The last ronin has a lot of mystery around why he wasn't at the temple or turned himself in with everyone else. Some say he was ordered to go to the lord's land and report on the death of the official, others that he was a coward and left before the battle, or was ordered to leave before the ronin turned themselves in. In the end, the shogun pardoned him and he lived to the age of 87 before being buried with the other ronin.
    This is the movie I want to see, revenge on a dishonorable government official with the very same dagger that the other guy used to honorably commit seppuku. It doesn't say it was in the story, but if I were writing the movie it would be the same dagger which also cut the officials face in the fight, as if the lord's will finally landed the killing blow. Politics, relationships, leadership, honor, action, closure. I've been to the graves here in Tokyo at Sengakuji temple and they're very nondescript graves. They weren't afforded any luxury, but their story has been told throughout Japan.

    • @easolinas1233
      @easolinas1233 Před 6 měsíci +28

      It's a very rich and powerful story, and it just was NOT done well at all, with the owl-people and fantastical stuff drawing away from the core of the story and its emotional heft.

    • @mordy3342
      @mordy3342 Před 6 měsíci +1

      I'd watch this movie

    • @Hippo_Hegemony
      @Hippo_Hegemony Před 6 měsíci +2

      Theres a movie similar to what your describing, but like ERE instead of Japan. Last Knights.

    • @themug406
      @themug406 Před 5 měsíci +2

      You know the writers didnt think this was a documentary right? Nothing wrong with historical fantasy

    • @StevenConning
      @StevenConning Před 5 měsíci +12

      @@themug406 Nothing wrong with a fantasy, or any other style of adaptation, but it should be at least as good as the source material otherwise you ruin a perfectly good story.

  • @mostlyharmfulll2103
    @mostlyharmfulll2103 Před 6 měsíci +63

    From what I know, the main problem of the movie was that the director wanted to do something more grounded like Gladiator while the studio wanted to make something like Lord of the Rings.

    • @BOOMDIGGER
      @BOOMDIGGER Před 6 měsíci

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Rinsch Man wast just insane.

  • @TheAmericanPrometheus
    @TheAmericanPrometheus Před 6 měsíci +93

    If you've ever wondered what would happen if a studio executive decided to take a creative role for one of their movies... well, that's basically how 47 Ronin was made. Walter Hamada, of all people, wrote the story for this movie.

    • @zxt5148
      @zxt5148 Před 6 měsíci +8

      How did he keep getting jobs? I just looked at his body of work and not a single movie was good, and only a handful where successful.

    • @Cloudy_Jones
      @Cloudy_Jones Před 6 měsíci +12

      He probably has a lot of friends in the industry, that’s usually the only explanation you need.

  • @velvi8359
    @velvi8359 Před 6 měsíci +32

    I remember when this movie came out and all the marketing had that cool looking guy covered in tattoos front and center on all the posters. You know, the guy that was in the movie for a whole 5 seconds to give the samurai directions. Like there were literally cardboard cut outs of him in theatres, it was some of the most deceptive marketing ever.

  • @dadcomeback1470
    @dadcomeback1470 Před 6 měsíci +352

    The 47 ronin was an amazing story of honour and loyalty on its own it never needed these fantast parts added to it and weakened it for me

    • @RandomPerson-tz7wk
      @RandomPerson-tz7wk Před 6 měsíci +35

      Lol no. The main character is a side character in the story. The whole movie would work if we follow the head ronin instead.
      The movie give zero reason why Keanu would be honour or loyal to the lord.

    • @temistogen
      @temistogen Před 6 měsíci +25

      ​@@RandomPerson-tz7wkthe guy that made the com is right.If they made the original story by folowing the story of 47 ronin without fantastic parts or magical elements this would have been great.

    • @bagggers9796
      @bagggers9796 Před 6 měsíci +17

      @@temistogen The Japanese already made that movie though. Twice actually. This film simply has no artistic reason to exist.

    • @temistogen
      @temistogen Před 6 měsíci +8

      @@bagggers9796 yeah but US always does a version of their own.Many movies that have been a hit outside of english speaking areas get redone in Hollywood.

    • @RandomPerson-tz7wk
      @RandomPerson-tz7wk Před 6 měsíci +5

      @@temistogen
      Oh, he mean the ORIGINAL 47 Ronin. Not this version.
      They actually can make it work with fantasy and magic. Super easy, barely an inconvenience. Just switch the main villain to the witch. Wanting to control Japan through puppet/proxy lord, why? Because she's evil and Japan is large country. She needs pawns to handle the day to day running the nation.
      Make keanu into a Witcher/van helsing type character that specialises in hunting magic/supernatural enemies. He was hunting her from Europe.
      And the witch wants the princess body. Why? Because she old. Why it take long? Because she use old school magic. It takes time, material, rituals to make magic.
      She's basically maleficent from sleeping beauty.

  • @crona1794
    @crona1794 Před 6 měsíci +31

    A great way to have turned Keanu into an active protagonist would be for him to bust the samurai leader out of jail once he hears of the impeding wedding. He knows the men won’t listen to him due to him being a foreigner, but with the leader on his side, he can save the love of his life, as well as the land at large. It’s a simple fix, but I think it would’ve worked so much better.

    • @easolinas1233
      @easolinas1233 Před 6 měsíci +7

      I agree. It would've made him more of an active rather than passive protagonist, and would have explained Hiroyuki Sanada being freed. Good fix.

    • @civilengineer3349
      @civilengineer3349 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Everything is more awesome and makes sense when the protagonist is active and actually does everything

  • @louisbogli1804
    @louisbogli1804 Před 6 měsíci +32

    I exploded in laughter when Hiroyuki Sanada asked Keanu who trained him and received the answer : « Demons. »

  • @isaacmartinez6904
    @isaacmartinez6904 Před 6 měsíci +122

    Good things about 47 Ronin.
    One: This movie led to John Wick, which rebuild Keanu Reeves’ career.
    Two: The story of 47 Ronin isn’t dead because the Japanese made their own version of 47 Ronin back in the 1994.

    • @bagggers9796
      @bagggers9796 Před 6 měsíci +5

      And in 1941

    • @fascinatingtome
      @fascinatingtome Před 6 měsíci +9

      47 Ronin is constantly re-made, in every different medium, in every different variation. All you need is a quick randomizer to join in yourself - "it's 47 Ronin, but set in [a teenage air force] in [a version of WW2 Europe] starring [dogs].

  • @eat_the_octopus
    @eat_the_octopus Před 6 měsíci +19

    Temu!!! That's the shadiest app!

  • @Masterho310
    @Masterho310 Před 6 měsíci +60

    Not even Keanu Reeves could save this film

    • @ninjanibba4259
      @ninjanibba4259 Před 6 měsíci +7

      He couldn’t save a lot of films

    • @ghostinplainsight4803
      @ghostinplainsight4803 Před 6 měsíci +3

      Please name a movie he saved with his acting prowess.

    • @357Striker
      @357Striker Před 6 měsíci

      Yeah i could say matrix and bill and ted (the old ones) has to be the only good movies, john wick i dont care bout those movies

    • @titorepepote7802
      @titorepepote7802 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@357Striker Constantine was also pretty good and speed was a hit back then

    • @357Striker
      @357Striker Před 3 měsíci

      @@titorepepote7802 oh yeah i liked that movie too i forgot about it tho ajaj

  • @fredo1070
    @fredo1070 Před 6 měsíci +82

    Why did the producers think that taking a classic Japanese historical story set in 1703 and adding monsters was a good idea? It is like taking the story of the Alamo, casting a Japanese lead as Davy Crockett and have him fight dragons and ogres at the Alamo instead of Mexicans.

    • @Luciphell
      @Luciphell Před 6 měsíci +10

      Because they wanted to appeal to the China market, and China is big on that type of thing.

    • @RandomPerson-tz7wk
      @RandomPerson-tz7wk Před 6 měsíci +8

      Not everything is because of the china market. It was literally made to appeal to the Japanese market. The movie was only release in a china movie festival not in all cinema.

    • @DoctorBiobrain
      @DoctorBiobrain Před 6 měsíci +20

      Idk. I think your Alamo movie sounds awesome. I’d much rather watch that than the real story.

    • @Luciphell
      @Luciphell Před 6 měsíci

      @@RandomPerson-tz7wk
      Ah okay. Japanese market for this one.

    • @hobokoala2623
      @hobokoala2623 Před 6 měsíci +7

      As a Texas who’s seen many an regular Alamo movie in his life, I’d watch your movie at least 10 times.

  • @t-bonebreaker6494
    @t-bonebreaker6494 Před 6 měsíci +20

    I just got a new Netflix account, saw this movie yesterday when searching for action movies, was gonna watch it LITERALLY TODAY after I was done watching the first few episodes of Stranger Things, thank you Filmento ♥️🐐

  • @Rickardo9828
    @Rickardo9828 Před 6 měsíci +31

    It's interesting that the "foreigner samurai in feudal japan" concept is in both 47 Ronin and Blue Eye Samurai, but man did one use that to full potential and one really didn't.
    And while on the topic, are you going to cover Blue Eye Samurai Mr Filmento, I think that would make for a really interesting video.

    • @brezzendorf
      @brezzendorf Před 6 měsíci +1

      He haven't even make one on Edgerunners

    • @itsgonnabeokay9341
      @itsgonnabeokay9341 Před 6 měsíci +2

      ​​​@@brezzendorfor Arcane. I think he just prefers movies because that is where he specializes.

  • @jackkain7141
    @jackkain7141 Před 6 měsíci +10

    A good part of why this movie is a motivational mess is that it was hacked to pieces and re-stitched in the editing bay with a bunch of new footage added. You would have noticed that the main protagonists of the movie SHOULD be Oishi and his son Chikara according to the plot. Oishi is the leader of the samurai after all. But it was all cut to focus on Reeves' character, up to and included extended love scenes. Much as we might all love Keanu, it's hard to argue this wouldn't have been a better movie without him, if they had just focused on the story of the samurai and the political intrigue of the era.

  • @Slothptimal
    @Slothptimal Před 6 měsíci +130

    Do you think there'd be a market for a studio to purchase box office flops, and remake them?
    I imagine picking up the rights to flops with the intent to remake would be fairly cheap, especially since it would renew interest in the original failures.
    You've done many Anatomy of a Failures - would be interesting to see them remade with proper direction.

    • @Mushroomfields
      @Mushroomfields Před 6 měsíci +3

      The idea could have potential
      For the same idea I was hyped about the Filmento series about adding something that was missing in a flop so it could have meaning

    • @charlespuruncajas9663
      @charlespuruncajas9663 Před 6 měsíci +6

      Interestlingly enough, Universal did basically this.
      With both 47 Ronin and RIPD
      For 47, they sold sequel rights to Netflix and they did it back on 2022.
      For RIPD, they did a prequel also on 2022

    • @StofenThe1st
      @StofenThe1st Před 6 měsíci

      Wait they did? What are those continuations called?

    • @StofenThe1st
      @StofenThe1st Před 6 měsíci

      Would the Stargate movie to Stargate shows count in this? I know filmento wouldn’t cover them but I think this would apply in this case.

    • @Ramsey276one
      @Ramsey276one Před 6 měsíci +5

      Rebirth of a Failure

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    @erinclarke2606 Před 6 měsíci +7

    Oh god I cant escape temu can I. Add on videos, youtubers now being sponsered, adds on social media, people sending me links to temu. Need a sponsor blocker on top of an ad blocker now haha

  • @johnsanko4136
    @johnsanko4136 Před 6 měsíci +11

    There were some really good moments scattered across the movie, and the costuming is great. But I agree that there's not enough holding it together.

  • @nouveauprofil
    @nouveauprofil Před 6 měsíci +6

    That title scared me. For a split second, I thought it was about Ronin with Jean Reno and Robert de Niro, which is a great and memorable action movie.

    • @KeithFraser82
      @KeithFraser82 Před 6 měsíci

      And which references the story of the 47 Ronin on which this film is based.

  • @brandonlee747
    @brandonlee747 Před 6 měsíci +10

    Filmento, why are you accepting ads from Temu? :(

  • @shagmeimbj
    @shagmeimbj Před 6 měsíci +9

    Bro...Temu?

  • @Gunnumn
    @Gunnumn Před 6 měsíci +31

    i remember seeing this with my buddy at the time and we were conviced this was going to be the next big thing (ended up being John Wick) and i remember leaving the theater feeling like time was wasted.

    • @LuisSierra42
      @LuisSierra42 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Same, I only decided to watch it because I had seen some clips and it looked pretty cool but when I did, I felt i had lost 2 hours of my life

  • @eddobh
    @eddobh Před 6 měsíci +19

    Thank you for this. I've been always puzzled of why this movie didn't work. Like others, I don't think the original tale would need fantastic elements to make a great movie, but I never felt this was the real problem of the adaptation. Is kind off putting how I always though this as low budget movie, what was obviously not the case, as to how bad it was. Much like the other movie mentioned in the video. Bad writing making things feel cheap is not just a current thing, it seems.

  • @muhammadalikhan7244
    @muhammadalikhan7244 Před 6 měsíci +9

    The same director also did the scam with Netflix of around 55 million US Dollars 😂

  • @craigrussell7542
    @craigrussell7542 Před 6 měsíci +2

    So true! It's like the filmmakers rolled on some random D&D encounter tables and said, "Great! Let's do that."

  • @aaronworthing1023
    @aaronworthing1023 Před 6 měsíci +83

    As I’m sure many other people noted, the original story of the 47 Ronin is a real historical event. So this video makes it really clear that the original sin of the movie was not to adapt the story very straightly, with perhaps some explanation of why things matter to a western audience. Maybe that would be a way of sneaking Reeves into it making him a little more of an outsider who needs things explained to him. but I can’t help but think that a talented filmmaker could have made a very straight, grounded, historical epic, that’s still somehow explains things to western audiences. But adding in all the fantastical elements, and adding in Keanu Reeves was an artistic mistake.
    And yeah, I guess I understand that if you didn’t put Reeves in it, it would’ve been harder to get the movie made it all, but I’m just talking about whether or not it would’ve been a good movie

    • @vonneely1977
      @vonneely1977 Před 6 měsíci +3

      Came to say exactly this only less eloquently. Nicely done!

    • @ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom
      @ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom Před 6 měsíci +6

      Reeves himself was actually not passionate about it. He just needed the money to make Man of Tai Chi, which he directed. It's way better than this crap.

    • @aaronworthing1023
      @aaronworthing1023 Před 6 měsíci

      @@vonneely1977 thanks

    • @rataflechera
      @rataflechera Před 6 měsíci +1

      Keanu's character, while not ethnical Japanese, is so immerse in the culture that is not worth as an exposition device. His only purpose is to have some star name in the poster that western audiences would recognize.

    • @dash4800
      @dash4800 Před 6 měsíci +3

      The last samurai had a white guy in it and everyone loves that movie. Any writer of any talent should be able to put him in thr story in a believable way.

  • @CBComings
    @CBComings Před 6 měsíci +13

    It's sad to see Filmento take a sponsor like Temu. This world truely saddens me

  • @TSmith-yy3cc
    @TSmith-yy3cc Před 6 měsíci +3

    When I heard that they were making a 47 Ronin movie I was so pumped; my expectations evaporated with every shred of information that came out after the initial announcement lol.

  • @SunteamFilms
    @SunteamFilms Před 6 měsíci +25

    @filmento The content you produce is highly appreciated and your detailed analysis of specific elements that make a film work or not work are immensly educational. I follow you for a while now, I bought your book and looking forward to watch your break downs of movies after watching them myself. Thank you for this.
    That said: Choosing to have Temu as a sponsor is a complete dealbreaker though. Temu is one of the worst things that happened in the world of eCommerce (sharing the top spot with Shein).
    Thanks for all you‘ve done and good luck with future endeavours.
    Just keep im mind: the sponsors you choose are sending a message and people with an audience bear a certain responsibility.

  • @LXXVIIZONE
    @LXXVIIZONE Před 6 měsíci +6

    Oh that Temu ad is desperate but I know you know what Temu are 😢 : Revenue must be DOWN DOWN

  • @DustinBarlow8P
    @DustinBarlow8P Před 6 měsíci +10

    I actually enjoyed 47 Ronin. The cheesy dialogue and over the top plot is what makes it so much fun. Hell just comparing it to every movie released between 2000 and 2023, I would argue it is a AMAZING film.

  • @easternlights3155
    @easternlights3155 Před 6 měsíci +3

    My main gripe with this movie is that Oishi is so clearly supposed to be the protagonist. He is the one with most stakes, he moves the story forward (and Hiroyuki Sanada is arguably the better character actor). It feels like the filmmakers thought white audiences couldn't relate to an asian character so they just inserted a random mixed guy.
    If they wanted a love story (which the movie did not need) they could have given more focus to Oishi's wife. Her line "I am the wife of a samurai - whatever your duty is, it is mine too." (when she refuses to divorce Oishi and decides to share his disgrace) is already more romantic than literally anything Kai and Mika said to each other.

  • @taix250
    @taix250 Před 6 měsíci +10

    bruh, temu is a scam and they steal credit card info

    • @happicheshirecat
      @happicheshirecat Před 6 měsíci +2

      Bro knows he wants that bag tho

    • @taix250
      @taix250 Před 6 měsíci

      @@happicheshirecat straight up not buzzin not even gonna lie

  • @PsychotoasterProd
    @PsychotoasterProd Před 6 měsíci +2

    And you know the worst thing? The actual story of the Akō incident is really compelling, full of drama and awesome badassery and sadness. And has never really been done well (at least in the states).

  • @AHersheyHere
    @AHersheyHere Před 6 měsíci +3

    There are real European samurai, an English sailor who was shipwrecked, so it's silly to force a European samurai into this story. It's a shame because this real life story deserved a proper retelling, it doesn't have the draw for a major blockbuster budget. This movie would've done fine as a low budget Kurosawa-style film.

    • @mikemghenyi6708
      @mikemghenyi6708 Před 6 měsíci +1

      I think the upcoming movie Shogun has this premise. Check out the trailers.

  • @lennartbkmn20
    @lennartbkmn20 Před 6 měsíci +11

    i get that it pays the bills, but man a temu sponsorship? especialy with that kind of build up, like its not among the worst companies out there... really leaves a bad taste

  • @forthehorseranch3180
    @forthehorseranch3180 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I don't know if I'm the only one who caught this, but from 1:14 till 1:31 he starts switching the two movies back and fourth to confuse us and make us wonder which movie is which. It may be a small thing, but this really shows how much effort he puts into his videos. Keep up the great work man!

  • @tshedisojohannes9321
    @tshedisojohannes9321 Před 6 měsíci +3

    You summed up my thoughts and feelings in a way I could not vocalise them back in 2013. I remember getting excited over the trailer the night before going to watching the movie. I also remember the dread I felt after leaving the cinema. Lol kinda like the Justice League trailer as compared to the theatrical release.

  • @shlepad
    @shlepad Před 6 měsíci +9

    That movie sucked, and Reeves was in it as a gimmick only. A total bastardization of a fantastic story.

  • @balls2balls
    @balls2balls Před 6 měsíci

    Just wanna say your use of memes is always top notch lol

  • @GojiraRising
    @GojiraRising Před 6 měsíci +2

    Great video as always would like to see you talk about Minus One down the road.

  • @3plecheeseburger
    @3plecheeseburger Před 6 měsíci +4

    A good 47 Ronin western adaptation that I find really enjoyable was The Last Knight, starring Clive Owen and Morgan Freeman.

  • @aidarosullivan5269
    @aidarosullivan5269 Před 6 měsíci +7

    Not the greatest movie of all times, but I've quite enjoyed it and didn't regret going to cinema.

    • @anubusx
      @anubusx Před 6 měsíci +2

      Same with me. A guilty pleasure.

    • @DimbDumbDumb
      @DimbDumbDumb Před 6 měsíci +1

      Meee toooo, the fact that i watching it three Times, but yet I remember nothing about it is awesome

  • @subliteral
    @subliteral Před 6 měsíci +3

    I do think the representation of xenophobia and cultural conformity of ancient Japan was relatively solid and accurate to the time period. But this video did point out the strangeness of Keanu's acceptance of it , wholly without any criticism or resistance. The audience could not really root for his victory against this unfairness because the character himself was complicit in his own victimhood.

  • @pascalgroegger4156
    @pascalgroegger4156 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Bro a temu Placement isnt the way to go

  • @Freshkid619Z
    @Freshkid619Z Před 6 měsíci

    We ate good this year thanks Phil ❤️

  • @znavot0
    @znavot0 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Advertising TEMU is placing you at the same level of their merch, which is sh#t.

  • @luxinvictus9018
    @luxinvictus9018 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Filmento showing off all his 'man of culture' credentials with that intro.

  • @Meinungsecke
    @Meinungsecke Před 6 měsíci +7

    A TEMU placement, really? Don’t we already have enough cancer in the world?

  • @charlespuruncajas9663
    @charlespuruncajas9663 Před 6 měsíci +2

    That's why if we talk about fantasy epic movies..... Conan the Barbarian (directed by John Millus and written by Oliver Stone) stands as the best blueprint for a fantasy epic movie.

    • @civilengineer3349
      @civilengineer3349 Před 4 měsíci

      Fellowship of the Ring, The Northman, and a few others are also real good

  • @hyperionsama8114
    @hyperionsama8114 Před 6 měsíci +6

    Random question, have you ever read the book that “seven son” was based off of? The last apprentice” by Joseph Delaney? Just like Darren Shan’s Cirque Du Freak series, this one was sadly executed as well.

  • @MrbigballsMemes
    @MrbigballsMemes Před 6 měsíci

    Diddys name being ran through the mud. And I'm loving every minute of it

  • @filipvadas7602
    @filipvadas7602 Před 6 měsíci +1

    The moment they introduced legit fantasy elements I just immediately checked out of the movie.
    They seriously detracted from what could have and *should have* been a really simple ,but strong, story about duty and honor.

  • @Warlord_Megatron
    @Warlord_Megatron Před 6 měsíci

    Subscribed for the "it has to be this way" intro

  • @oneoranota
    @oneoranota Před 6 měsíci +1

    I watched 47 Ronin at the time. I thought the CGI was bad, and the plot thread were big, but overall I enjoyed the movie. The scenery and the fight scenes are pretty good.

  • @ZeusAmun-pt9dc
    @ZeusAmun-pt9dc Před 6 měsíci

    That Thor bottle opener keychain is awesome looking

  • @rud5101
    @rud5101 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Me and my buddy were hyped about this movie and saw it in the theater. Needless to say, we were sorely disappointed. One thing I will give the movie credit for, the set design was gorgeous.

  • @gustavopaniza9964
    @gustavopaniza9964 Před 6 měsíci

    MG Rising reference always gets me 😂

  • @pastorgainz7230
    @pastorgainz7230 Před 6 měsíci +3

    I remember watching this in cinema when it came out and by the end thinking what a drag that was. I didn't even find the action cool or interesting it just felt like a bunch of screen play😂

  • @1337-Nathaniel
    @1337-Nathaniel Před 6 měsíci +2

    Fun fact: 47 Ronin was the first movie I went to watch in the cinema by myself.

  • @civilengineer3349
    @civilengineer3349 Před 4 měsíci

    I think all this film needs is an active protagonist with a purpose who will punch, push, and pull his way to victory, sacrificing everything if he must, bearing much pain till he gets the girl at the end

  • @osidiusemphatic3505
    @osidiusemphatic3505 Před 4 měsíci

    I saw a preview of this at the Australian International Movie Convention back in 2013. It was introduced as everything I wanted in a film... then they showed a scene. Audience members were raving about it, but I thought it looked so terrible that I actually questioned whether I even liked movies anymore. No joke. It made me consider quitting the industry, because in a room full of distributors, producers, programmers and studio execs, I appeared to be the only one who realised it was going to fail hard.
    The fact I was right didn't change my feelings. I still question the value of this industry every day.

  • @buzzlightyearpfp7641
    @buzzlightyearpfp7641 Před 6 měsíci

    definitely feels like it was 2 unrelated movies (one about the supernatural and the other trying to be accurate) just slammed together

  • @OfficialArkoMotions
    @OfficialArkoMotions Před 6 měsíci

    Super useful video👍

  • @QuoteBlink
    @QuoteBlink Před 6 měsíci +8

    Nah .. don't use Temu😭

  • @unknownchoujin1436
    @unknownchoujin1436 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Since you're doing a video on a movie from 2013, whenever you get the chance, I would like to see you breakdown the failure of After Earth.

  • @arandombard1197
    @arandombard1197 Před 6 měsíci +1

    The worst part about this movie is the fact that the original story is already interesting AND true. It's a story of honour and revenge.

  • @hulkman245
    @hulkman245 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I remember they made a big deal out of the guy with the face tattoos in the promotion. Only for him to show up in 1 scène for 1 second without any lines

  • @drudee7344
    @drudee7344 Před 6 měsíci +3

    9:36 NOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT YOU TOO 😪

  • @anthragestormrider2493
    @anthragestormrider2493 Před 6 měsíci

    Good analysis.

  • @BigGahmBoss
    @BigGahmBoss Před 6 měsíci

    I never saw Seventh Son, but I've seen 47 Ronin a few times. Love it

  • @Aim-Ace
    @Aim-Ace Před 6 měsíci

    It had been to long to hear the MGRR song again. W

  • @DmytroIelkin
    @DmytroIelkin Před 6 měsíci +1

    "Keanu is awesome and I like Keanu"

  • @KayJblue
    @KayJblue Před 6 měsíci +1

    Keanu in this movie being Sergio Perez is actually accurate 😂

  • @MrGregory777
    @MrGregory777 Před 6 měsíci

    One of my guilty movie pleasures

  • @weaponxjediofthelinkueicla6445

    This is honestly one of my favorite movies. In my top 20

  • @AlexandrePlissken
    @AlexandrePlissken Před 6 měsíci +6

    One of the biggest problems with 47 Ronin is that Keanu isn’t the main focus, he feels like a supporting character who just takes a lot of place. He never even interacts with the main villain who is about to marry the freaking love of his life, talk about a story-telling failure. I feel like the avenging master plot and the stopping the wedding plot sabotage each other, because it makes it unclear whether the movie is about revenge or love.

    • @TheSmokingMustache
      @TheSmokingMustache Před 6 měsíci

      My understanding is that the original cut (which is in a vault somewhere) had him as more of a supporting character and then the studio wanted him to be more of the main character and this led to reshoots and changing the edit. I dunno how true that is but it sounds right.

  • @DornAndGrant
    @DornAndGrant Před 6 měsíci +2

    Great stuff. Love your videos. I absolutely love this film. I always felt it was rubbish (while loving it). Much that I agree with your analysis I do wonder if that’s the core of its ‘floppiness’ as I’m pretty sure that there are worse constructed films (the Meg? Meg 2 🧐) that are successful.

  • @tophtopherson8920
    @tophtopherson8920 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I love you filmento. your work is so good, please don't sell out for temoo . they are the worst🎉🎉

  • @Luciphell
    @Luciphell Před 6 měsíci +1

    Why did it fail?
    Because just like the Matt Damon film "The Great Wall", it was a Hollywood movie specifically made to appeal to the Eastern market with a world-recognized, bankable star to give it a pretty face.

  • @howellzabala4624
    @howellzabala4624 Před 5 měsíci

    Does anyone know what movie the right poster in 9:05 is from? It looks so dope, and I kinda thought it was from the anime/manga named Ajin, but I'm not sure. Thanks!

  • @devin6079
    @devin6079 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I haven’t watched the video yet, I just came to say that I love Keanu reeves lol

  • @randomrey6568
    @randomrey6568 Před 6 měsíci

    Will there be a physical copy of the book available to buy instead of Kindle?

  • @jeffreyonemu1426
    @jeffreyonemu1426 Před 6 měsíci

    Filmento, I would love if you covered Blue Eye Samurai. It has a similar basic setup.
    Edit: The F1 driver gag killed me everytime.

  • @InuYasha-SitBoy
    @InuYasha-SitBoy Před 6 měsíci

    i literally just start thinking about Inuyasha evertime i hear ‘feaudal japan’. damn childhood

  • @user-tc2ie3db3z
    @user-tc2ie3db3z Před 2 měsíci

    I'm a simple person, I like streamlined stories and I don't want to get too involved with a character, so this movie was just right for me. And as much as I love history, this movie having supernatural creatures makes the movie more interesting for me, and I went and found out the real 47 Ronin story after. I guess I like to digest movies with my brain on idle.

  • @ZephrusPrime
    @ZephrusPrime Před 6 měsíci

    The whole seppuku ending killed it for me.

  • @felixvsevil8783
    @felixvsevil8783 Před 3 měsíci

    Does anyone know what the song he uses is? He uses it towards the end and during the beginning monster chase, I swear I've heard it before but I can't remember...

  • @Murphh10
    @Murphh10 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Oh filmento, there has been so many reports of temu selling your information to other people, countless people have reported this app because their addresses, phone numbers and card information had been stolen😅

  • @armoredp
    @armoredp Před 4 měsíci

    Nice agent 47 reference in a movie called 47 Ronin!

  • @Mushroomfields
    @Mushroomfields Před 6 měsíci

    The analysis request came from someone hurt by how they treated Keanu Reeves. This script was asking for the previous voiceover, which carried more emotion for those "what were they thinking?" moments

  • @piotrtomasz1268
    @piotrtomasz1268 Před 6 měsíci

    I think the movie without crucial motivation is David Fincher's "Killer". Because that one scene in the hospital is just not enough to believe that the killer who is shown n as cpragmaticmatprofessionalall would go a for private vendetta telling us earlier that you can't have any emotions.

  • @chadjones1266
    @chadjones1266 Před 5 měsíci

    Thanks

  • @mordy3342
    @mordy3342 Před 6 měsíci

    I like this movie as a "turn my brain off and watch flashy sword sequences" movie, but I do 100% agree

  • @Ace_Bandido808
    @Ace_Bandido808 Před 6 měsíci +3

    no way you're telling to buy things from an app that steals your info

  • @Kryynism
    @Kryynism Před 6 měsíci

    This is comfort cheese for me.