Blue Beetle - Why the Audience Doesn't Care | Anatomy of a Failure
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- čas přidán 30. 09. 2023
- Blue Beetle is the beginning of the new James Gunn phase of the DCEU... or not... nobody really knows, least of all DC. It's a movie that has good components, but sadly was ruined by poor execution. And as a result nobody cared: Blue Beetle was a big flop and only made around a 100 million dollars at the box office. It's one of the biggest superhero movie flops of all time. So, in today's episode of Anatomy of a Failure, let's try to find out why. Here's why Blue Beetle failed despite having better components than most DC movies recently.
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Blue Beetle (2023)
From Warner Bros. Pictures comes the feature film “Blue Beetle,” marking the DC Super Hero’s first time on the big screen. The film, directed by Angel Manuel Soto, stars Xolo Maridueña in the title role as well as his alter ego, Jaime Reyes. Recent college grad Jaime Reyes returns home full of aspirations for his future, only to find that home is not quite as he left it. As he searches to find his purpose in the world, fate intervenes when Jaime unexpectedly finds himself in possession of an ancient relic of alien biotechnology: the Scarab. When the Scarab suddenly chooses Jaime to be its symbiotic host, he is bestowed with an incredible suit of armor capable of extraordinary and unpredictable powers, forever changing his destiny as he becomes the Super Hero BLUE BEETLE.
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Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016)
Batman (Ben Affleck) and Superman (Henry Cavill) clash over differing philosophies about what kind of heroism is needed to protect the world, while the public they're defending is becoming increasingly mindful of the damage that superheroes and masked vigilantes cause. However, the duo are soon forced to confront an even greater blue beetle failure box office flop why blue beetle failed blue beetle bad movie james gunn blue beetle blue beetle after credits is blue beetle in the dceu blue beetle watch full movie online free hd 4k clip blue beetle only action best moments honest trailer blue beetle everything wrong with blue beetle mistakes suit explained blue beetle official trailer new dc movie bad movie good movie blue beetle failure threat created by nefarious billionaire Lex Luthor (Jesse Eisenberg). Directed by Zack Snyder, Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice also co-stars Amy Adams as Lois Lane, Jeremy Irons as Alfred the butler, and Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman. - Krátké a kreslené filmy
Yeah I found it funny how Jaime so badly didn’t want to kill anyone yet his family killed a bunch of people without caring when they went to save him.
Hypocrisy: Mankind's greatest virtue.
Exactly. I figured Jaime didn't want to kill cause maybe the studio wanted this to be a kid friendly move, but his uncle was stepping on folks in that big bug, his Abuela was shooting folks with that big gun, so it was just poor writing that resulted in Jamie's no killing thing, or perhaps the poor writing was the cause of there being no explanation why he didn't want to kill.
Nah, it is Batman paradox. Till snaped head or blood is there they are fine!
Thats latinoamérica for you, Jaime goes to the second part of "Si no sirves para matar, sirves para que te maten"
Jaime is basically me.
If you've watched Young Justice, the alien voice is actually a bit malevolent in the cartoon. It makes for a good dynamic because it's constantly trying to make him "terminate" people while he resists. I sort of wish they had gone that route instead of making it so the alien voice stopped him from doing something drastic.
What came first? Blue Beetle or Spawn?
Edit: Totally meant Venom not Spawn. I'm an amateur nerd...
If I remember correctly Blue Beetle is a fairly new character, from about 2005 or so, he's definitely newer than Spawn as a character.
He was cool though, the original selling point was that the suit was supposed to be the ultimate hero, able to solve any problem and kill any villain, but with it being a trick by an alien race. The Reach couldn't just take over new planets, that would cause a war with the Guardians of the Universe(who created the Green Lanterns) they couldn't win, so instead they created super suits and sent them to planets to take over subtly. The suit would prove the worlds greatest defender, then the reach would show up wanting to reclaim the suit, but upon seeing how much it was needed offer to defend the planet in exchange for joining The Reach(and then they wipe out the native culture over a few generations before fully converting it to a slave world when no one remembers what it was like to be free).
The suit doesn't care about lives at all because it was created by aliens who see humans as future slaves, why do they care if a few undesirable humans wind up dead. Luckily for Earth the presence of magic broke the AI somewhat so it's less effective but more willing to follow his direction(it's still never going to stop him killing someone, and especially not someone who is a threat to The Reach capable of replicating Scarabs).
Blue Beetle, by a looooong shot first appearance in the 30's, with current lore revamped in the 60s.
Spawn is from the 90s
Jaimes Reye, the Blue Beetle this film is based on, first appeared in a DC comic in 2006. There were other Blue Beetles before him, but they were very different characters.
@@Andrew-zq3ipSpawn, there was s Blue Beatle before the new one, but it didn't hsve an alien suit.
I love how we live in a world where Puss In Boots is being used as an example of fantastic movie writing
The timeline has derailed a bit
The last Puss in Boots movie wasn't that well written, it just had great art style that astonished people
@@ShadowSonic2 you wouldnt know great writing if it slapped you in the face
@@lurkzie its a kids movie dwag, writing/plot is pretty good as far as kids movies go, but really the animation style/quality did the heavy lifting, also the voice acting was stellar
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"I'm Death, straight up"
-Puss in Boots: The Last Wish, greatest movie writing of all time.
@@gameplaysuffering1620💀
This movie was so safe, it was essentially Iron man and Venom combined. The thing that made Blue Beetle interesting in multiple animated shows/movies is that the Scarab was uncomfortable around humans. If it thought a human looked at it funny, then it would instinctively try to attack. It's a gift and curse that prevented Jaime from even being near his family because he could potentially harm or even kill them. He had to teach it to get comfortable with humans. Where's a conflict like this in the movie? Even the no kill rule could've been explored more. What if Jaime had a no kill rule, but the Scarab didn't and forced him to kill. That would certainly make him stand out.
Yup. They flipped the relationship of who wants to not kill, presumably thinking themselves clever for doing so, without giving any thought to _why_ it was that way in the first place. Classic Tzeenchian 'change for the sake of change' mistake.
That actually interesting. Where were you when they pitched this movie.
i hate it when the suit does everything for the host… like Tom Holland’s nano spidey suit. Blue Beetle should have been more like The Guyver.
@@geterpriffinthe guyver?
@@joegaddy2030 search up The Guyver anime.
I watch this, and I cannot help but realize that this film is the most "super easy, barely an inconvenience" filled film
SUPEREASYBARELYANINCONVIENIENCE FILLED FILMS ARE TIGHT!!!😂
Yeayeayeayeayeayeayeayea....yeah!
I'll need you to get aaall the way off of Hollywood's back about that.
because!
So, you have a movie for me?
Honestly it's not just DC, but Superhero movies and TV Shows are underperforming due to the overexposure, inconsistent storytelling, and the removal and downright replacement of old and beloved characters with bland and forgettable ones, doesn't help that they have been destroyed when it comes to quality
The weird part is that the movie that made them popular in the first place was Ironman and its a serious and original movie. Idk what happened that marvel reached this point.
@@motivatedtoscapechildsupportSuperhero fatigue from all the products, Poor writing for most of the new characters, inconsistent CGI, Retcons,Bad humor and legacy heroes who don't hold a candle to the OG's and over-reliance on CGI
@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 everything deserves an ending and endgame was the end for the most of the fanbase. At this point, it's just a cash grab instead of a franchise.
@@motivatedtoscapechildsupportExactly, Endgame should have been a damn Endgame
And the quality is going down.
The thing that intrigued me about this film was that his whole family knew about the super hero thing right away. That was a different dynamic than what we’ve seen before, and it did interest me a little, but with DCs track record that one thing wasn’t enough to make me want to pay theater prices.
I was just happy that they didn't spend half of the film explaining his backstory and the families like marvel has done with their recent movies and shows
Late comment, but I kinda hate the trend of "We already know about everything."
It's like how in improv there's a rule that you don't stop an idea unless you have a better idea. You can't just have characters say "We already know that, so you don't need to explain it," because that cuts out a lot of opportunities for story.
Like, part of the reason why Raimi's Spider-Man movies were so good was because of the conflicts that emerged from Harry not knowing that his best friend was Spider-Man. Imagine the universe where instead of that Harry was like "Lol, it was super obvious that you were Spider-Man, bro."
You could see it in Far From Home where they set up an emotional scene where Peter is about to reveal his identity only to get cut-off with "I know you're Spider-Man," which is funny in the moment, but it probably would have made the movie better if we had gotten that emotional scene.
I think more writers need to understand why Succession is so much more interesting than 90% of modern movies, despite it being 99% people in rooms talking to each other. Characters are always juggling obstacles. Even a funeral isnt just a funeral, but a way for certain characters to showcase their value and resilience to shareholders.
Those types of movies where characters are just sitting around in a room and talking have become one of my favorite genres, especially if the topic of conversations are interesting enough as well as the characters. Movies like My Dinner with Andre, The Man from Earth, Waking Life, Stalker, etc. Those types of movies really scratch that itch for me. Korean/Japanese films also follow this formula so well and are under appreciated.
Reminds me of 12 Angry Men. Progress and conflict abound because they're arguing about the same murder case for the whole movie, perspectives and evidence are provided and challenged, and we know the stakes from the get-go: a teenager or young man is being tried with murder and about to be sentenced to death if they find him guilty.
Reminds me of the room tommy wiseau 😂
@@syweb2 That movie is magnificent.
It's nice to hear Filmento back from the dead. He has truly embraced modern Hollywood: no one's ever really gone.
With no explanation for how he returned, in true hollywood fashion.
@@Rocksteady72a "We decoded intel from the CZcams spy and it confirms the worst." *dramatic pause* "Somehow, Filmento returned." *gasps from audience*
His voice has changed is it just me? Maybe he’s not well for a while
hilarious
If he was truly embracing modern Hollywood, he would have returned as a woman who is portrayed as being inexplicably better at everything than his former self despite having relatively little experience or knowledge of these things. The audience would quickly grow tired of this pretense and the channel would collapse faster than modern Disney's stock price.
I feel like the writers didn't even care about Blue Beetle either. Jamie Reyes had no autonomy here, he was just taken for a ride. In a story, sometimes it's a good idea to have the hero forced to be the hero, but give then a point where they have a choice. For instance, in the first Iron Man film, Tony Stark was captured by terrorists, but he escaped. He didn't have a choice, it was escape or die. Once he escaped he had a choice, either continue his playboy lifestyle or be a hero. Ultimately, he choose to be the hero because he wanted to. He felt he needed to make things right.
Sounds like the beetle (scarab) could have crawled up anyone's ass (can't believe I'm saying that), and it would have made no difference who it was, as long as it had its host.
Exactly the hero needs to have a choice in becoming a hero or not.
“Had no autonomy here” Ah yes the superhero who’s known to have an uncontrollable sentient bug attached to his back has no autonomy. That’s the entire point of blue beetle in the beginning of every one of his origin stories. He shouldn’t just be able to control a world destroying bug.
@@Z48654 If that's the entire point of Blue Beetle than it perfectly explains why nobody cared about Blue Beetle until there is a movie about it, and even after that people still don't care. Jaime is basically just another passive protagonist who gets pushed by the plot because the writers say so. Filmento already said it clearly in the video, if the scarab chooses anybody else in his family to become the bearer of the suit then it wouldn't change a thing. Goes to show how "interesting" his character is.
Like If, in the second half jamie had the option to remove the scarab but chooses not to, that would've been great.
It's crazy that writing mistakes this big can happen in such big budget movies
There’s a reason there’s a writers strike.
@@willametteanderson4325 Because they think they deserve more money for shit like this?
The real mistakes are not in the writing itself. It's a movie made to be trendy and show cool stuff happening on screen, like the scene where the main character is flying through the city. The real mistakes were executives and producers thinking that audiences care about these movies.
@@jimmyreddhalf of the time the studios change there exact piece of work making them have to work with what they got
What I found strange was that Jamie was a superhero fan. From what I understand, he's always dreamed of being a hero in a world with people like Batman and Superman already saving people. Then he gets the scarab and it's a nightmare because he's stuck with a murderous robot bug stuck to his spine but it's also a fantasy because he sees it as an opportunity. In the movie, he only sees it as a curse. His family, mainly his uncle, are the ones that say he can work it out.
yeah i found that frustrating as well. like dude, you're now given this power you've always wanted since idk how long ago, and yet now you want to get rid of it? he didnt deserve this power indeed
I honestly can't tell you how happy I am to hear your voice. The reader guy was... fine, but he just wasn't Filmento.
This is the comment I was looking for. I missed his voice in the Barbie video.
at first it felt natural to hear his then i remembered there was a voice
This. I don't mind getting content that isn't weekly as long as the Filmento voice is there
BIG TALK
This sounds like AI to be honest.
For a video suggestion you should talk about what worked about Pacific rim and what didn’t work about it’s sequel.
There's a sequel?
@@AsterSkotos24 Let's just call it a big budget fan film instead
What sequel are you talking about?
Lol the sequel never happened sadly I thought it would've been pretty good though
there's a terrible sequel
The only problem I had with Blue Beetle was that it focused way too much on the family dynamic and not Jaime's development as a hero(because there literally is none).
I feel like there's a problem with how families are portrayed in these projects now.
It just seems like there's one person who's allowed to be serious, and everyone else just says random goofy lines and gets yelled at for things.
Also, they keep doing the "Why don't you find a nice girlfriend/boyfriend?" thing. That's really hacky.
The whole artistic process of storytelling is fascinating, whether it be a movie, a show, a comic, a book, etc. Some authors know how to make their scenes mean something, and others just put stuff on the screen/page and leave it at that.
Problem is we don't know how much freedom anybody had.
@@TheMysteryDriverThis👍, u can never know if they've hired a director or casted one. (just to be their puppet and their scapegoat for shitty projects)
They literally went and insulted whole mexico with the camera hack (Chespirito, the creator of the show used to hack the cameras is the most hated Mexican in mexico, he claimed to had written bethoven songs and that bethoven stole em, also Chespirito held the copyright for bethoven songs for too long)
I think a good intro would have been to play the whole college angel. The main character should have had the weight of getting his family out of poverty weighing on him while also trying to be the first of his family to graduate college. He should have been shown using "Ganas" to succeed even when everyone thinks he cant. Then once he graduates college and is met with the real world challenges we already expect him to use that "Ganas" to succeed.
I have the feeling that there's a reason for this to not happen, and for the family wanting to move without any actual motive and stuff like that. I think that there was some sort of original version of the script in which Jaime's family was actually poor but, due to being afraid of being called racists for putting them in a bad economic situation, the writers scrapped this very important bit of context.
@@HarverTheSlayerwhy do liberals ruin everything? 🤡
@@HarverTheSlayerwhat do you mean? In the movie his family is poor, they literally said they were gonna lose the house because they couldn’t afford it anymore
What you didnt see is that the rich girl who lost her estranged father, dressed the MC in her father's clothes, put him in her father's room, began talking about her father's life and THEN tried to kiss the guy who's dressed as her father, I mean thats just great subtle characterization right there.
LoL Sweet Alabama
To be clear ted had a complete different suít
I think I’m gonna be sick 💀
HUH?
Daddy issues
Does anyone see the irony of this "We are Mexican we might be unfairly arrested" scene being juxtaposed by the fact that the Uncle has a EMP Generator? a literal device of terror.
My biggest problem with this film was the villains, I didn't care about them. The moment I saw Yahya Abdul-Mateen II (Manta) in Aquaman I was instantly invested.
The villain is just a minion
Suit first flight would be a great scene if:
- the suit was completly careless about human lives on the way and main guy was using his wits to prevent harm from happen showing they duality.
Calculated machine vs empathy of man.
HIS VOICE RETURNS🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Somehow Filmento returned
He did not establish how, poor story telling, anatomy of failure
@@munashemhungu3219 the views have really decreased on videos with the other voice so that’s probably why he’s back
@@user-hb2ly7qu7x lol no, that's not why he's back. Do you think that he tried to leave his own channel and then came back when views went down? Can't a guy go on vacation for a little bit without people freaking out?
@@alexp601 Thought he said he got a more energetic voice because his own was a bit monotone, his words not mine i love his voice
I'm not even capping, I bought some tickets to see Blue Beetle with some friends.
When I went with my friends to see the movie we literally had THE WHOLE movie teather to ourselves, the boys were SUPER impressed cuz they thought I had booked the whole movie for just the boys.
(Obviously I lied and said yes that I did bought the whole movie just for us).
But only I know the truth, that the reason we was alone is cuz the movie was No Bueno
The camera hack was a big insult to Mexicans tho, everyone hates that show and it's a big shame, the creator of the show used to hack the cameras is a mf who claimed that bethoven stole the songs he had written and held copyright of em for too long
I cannot understand how entire rooms full of supposed story experts and creative genius executives keep putting hundreds of millions into this bottom of the barrel quality work. It takes you 20 minutes to dissect and tear these films apart, just about the same as the audience watching, and still they don't get it.
There's entire seasons of Mr Robot where I have no clue WHAT is happening, but I damn sure always understand WHY it's happening and how it all is adding up to something.
The unbelievable and underrated Amazon show Patriot is also the same way. The events of what you're watching can be confusing and disjointed through much of the running time but the way it all ties together giving deeper meaning to every little scene and easter egg is just incredible and satisfying and awesome to see.
Blue Beetle was a superhero movie doing an impression of another superhero movie.
So are you going to give the example of what movie?
@@an_anime_crepe828 A little bit of Iron Man, some Ant-Man, also Shazam.
Glad to have your voice back, it makes a world of difference.
I didn't go see Blue Beetle, because it just gave Chinese knockoff straight to DVD vibes. Nothing from the trailers made this feel fresh and worth watching, so it makes since neither did the whole movie.
You didn't miss a thing, good on you lol
Same. I especially didn't bother going to it when I saw the trailer go "Batman's a fascist" -_-
The movie is basically a mid Iron Man x Ant Man movie but Latinos
how could you be so rude but also correct at the same time ...
@@pramudyamaulana6969"It's a lost art" - Alec Baldwin
At the beginning I immediately thought about how Alita Battle Angel did their hero introduction: A day in the life, Saving the cat, ... you immediately wanted her to succeed even before ypu knew what she needs to succeed at
I think it’s a classic example of trying to talk about social issues but forgetting that it needs to be cohesive and u still have to write a good story. The story always comes first and the other issues u want to talk about second
You know the thing creatives gotta remember about social issues, diverse casting, politics, and things like that? The silent majority of viewers don't care. They just want to see a movie. It, in and of itself, is white noise to them at best, and a distraction to them at worst. The fact this is the first live-action superhero movie to star a Latino, or that it touches on "important" topics means sweet fuck all to them. You have to do something with such things that piques the interest of the viewers. If you can make your audience laugh, or make them care about the characters, they'll sit and happily listen to absolutely everything you have to say about social issues.
Nobody's going to watch a movie for opinions on social issues alone; you can get those for free literally anywhere.
While I did not think blue beetle was a totally bad movie, I think they could’ve done things to make it stand out more.
It's not bad, it's awfully mediocre which is even worse
Ever drank a warm-ish beer or lukewarm coffee? Thats Bluebeetle. Anyway there was no saving a Spiderman-Ironman-Black Panther amalgam movie with no charisma and terrible vfx
I wish they embraced the 80s asthetic more.
Im stealing that analogy lol @@mrsam0496
Not worth spending 20usd :))
Honestly I’m glad he’s still a part of James Gunn’s universe because while the story was average, Jaime and his family were very charming characters
They should have waited for this movie to come in the new universe
@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 it wouldn't have made a difference.
He will still be trash in whatever universe.
@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375
You don't understand what's happening. Nothing can save DC now. You think the problem was isolated with the last set of films? Nope. It's the management at WB that hurt and maybe even killed the brand. DC, in the general publics eyes, is a second rate copy of the MCU. DC would have to go above and beyond with each movie for the next several years in order for it to get any type of attraction from the general audience. Problem is, WBD and James Gunn do not want to go "above and beyond". They're not going to take risks and they're definitely not going to try and be different from the MCU. DC is dying. It's over, at least for the next 10 to 20 years.
the family is the best part of the movie
I did go see blue beetle actually, but it was very boring for the most part. The badass Abuela was the best part 100%. Like you correctly stated, there are too many moments in this movie where the viewers are asking "why?". Why is the thing that is currently happening, happening? Why did this character make this choice?
Do equalizer 3 next. I loved it. Eager to see your thoughts
It was basically Superhero :The Movie.
I also found it weird why the Call of Action happened so late. Jaime was just controlled by the scarab in the beginning.
I wanted to see the movie with my friends and in the first 20 minutes, the cinema had a power failure 😂
same with me lmfaoo
@@RISHI_RAJ0 Your cinema also had a power failure?
@@hades4134 Sounds sketchy
@@hades4134maybe you were in the same cinema?
@@DJSockmonkeyMusic In Germany?
This movie's biggest mistake was not having Danny Trejo in it. An action/comedy superhero movie with mostly Mexican actors but they don’t include him? Complete missed opportunity.
Whilst I thought the opening scene was a tad dull, I loved the introduction of the leads at the airport etc
(Maybe it's because I remember being 22 & possessing the Jaime's mindset/passion for making change)
Also thought those opening shots were beautiful; really made their neighborhood feel real (rather than a polystyrene set or cgi)
I'm surprised they didn't put the scarab on the niece. She's the one doing everything, Jaime's being taken for a ride. Plus, that would go along with the wave of female superheroes that we've seen recently. Who knows, maybe they'll transfer it to her in the inevitable flop of a sequel.
What if they give it to his uncle? 😅
Happy to hear your voice again! This channel is not the same without your voice , Filmento
But at the same time, it's okay for him to go on vacation every now and then :)
This was a very good point. It was missing all these things for me to care. Yeah I cried and got emotional with jaime wanting to kill the bad guy and the suit stopping him but it was just an "eh" watch till then. I was disappointed he was mostly incapacitated too and not doing anything with the suit himself.
Edit: I cried because jaime's dad dying by their ends and just wanted to go all out was stopped by an alien that was for killing tho realized it isn't always that good. My grandpa passed away a few months ago too. So it's relatable now knowing how others feel when their loved ones pass away.
The scene where he gets a heart attack and everyone was being kept from helping him was powerful on paper but could've been more impactful if the villains were better written. All I could think of was "are they really this stupid?" since most of the bad guys just took the family appart like police do in raids but noooo, an old man grasping for air while his daugther cries out for help is not a sign at all, not at all! so yeah.
If villains were better written from the get go, how this video mentions it, that scene would've blown many people away and most of the story beats would've been memorable with overall good writing.
I find it hilarious how Jaime was not in on killing the antagonist while his family is on a killing spree lolll
You cried at this corporate, by the books, product? At least hace the decency to keep that to yourself...
@@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon I'm guessing you're joking but still, that's kinda rude.
I have never cried because of a movie ever in my life. There are movies that have gotten me choked up sure, but I just seriously can't fathom how you couldve genuinely felt that emotional towards anything in this movie. I've seen it, it's entirely eye candy while your brain sleeps and thinks about other things. I always assume people are exaggerating when they say that but there's a lot of movies where I could at least understand it from someone else's perspective, but this movie is not one of them.
This origin story is the same as all the origins stories I've seen before. Even all the story beats are the same. These superhero movies are starting to feel all the same.
As soon as I heard that the villain was a different coloured version of the hero, I knew what to expect and was out immediately.
One thing I honestly disliked was how they completely got rid of the scarab being murderous and wanting to kill things and giving Miguel a moral dilemma
The problem with this Blue Beetle movie is that it should be the sequel... What makes Iron man so good is the set up from multiple movies. Blue beetle has had 3 main iterations that could have all had a moment, kind of like a homage to comics silver, golden ages before settling on the modern Blue Beetle.
This movie could have started with Dan Garret (the OG Blue Beetle with a mystical scarab granting them power) saving his assistant inventor Ted Kord from the ancient alien artifact being dug up. Ted Kord becomes the head of the company and attempts to shut down the project knowing what horrors could be unleashed from O.M.A.C. (of course the bad guys (maybe Checkmate) continue the project without Ted knowing). Ted meets Jaime and is impressed with them, offers them a job as his assistant, stuff happens. Ted in remembrance to Dan attempts to make a high tech version of the magical Scarab Dan had because Jaime convinces Ted the Alien tech could be used for good. O.M.A.C'S attack in the finale, Ted fights them with his gadgets but dies at the same time as Jaime is bonded to the new high tech scarab. Now we have a tragic hero arc. The end. The sequel is Jaime figuring out his powers without a mentor and fighting more O.M.A.C./ Checkmate stuff.
I just want Ted Kord to get some love, he was a great character with no super powers besides his intellect and the gadgets he builds. O.M.A.C did him dirty.
That sounds so much more interesting than the actual movie.
Not to mention imagine how much it would make the movie stand out to non-comic book audiences if they actually killed the title hero at the end of his debut movie, without teasing his resurrection in the next movie.
@@DrTechnoBabelThat would be something genuinely surprising. If the titular hero died and stayed dead.
I agreed with alot of stuff in the video and disagreed with even more, but this right here.... this is 💯 what it should have been
Lol the only good one was iron man 3😂
Thank you! I’m tired of films claiming to want to make unique diverse stories and stick with the same tired stereotypes
That's because most of the people claiming to want to tell those stories really only know surface details in the first place.
Characters aren't people to them, they're a list of characteristics to check off.
Agreed. What stuck out for me was 90% of his family has the exact same characteristics. Loud, obnoxious, and not very bright.
We’ve seen literally every scene in this movie before in other RECENT superhero movies. Shang Chi just cut a bus in half. Omac = iron man 2. Villain and final fight = iron man 1. Flash just sped through the city really fast. I could go on and on.
I loved blue beetle in young justice. So as soon as I saw the trailer for this movie I knew I wasn’t going to go see it
Blue Beetle is a guilty pleasure of mine. The film has all of the right ideas (for example, villain actually thematically fits the film, unlike Shazam 2 or The Flash if you can call it a villain). With just a liiiiiittle bit of better execution, you can make a cool Spy Kids-esque story where Jaime Reyes gets to kick some ass while the family also get some share with Ted Kord super gadgets on the third act.
I'll stop your pleasure
The show used on the camera hack is meant to be an insult to Mexicans, every Mexican hates the show and it's creator, being the biggest shame of the country, the creator claimed that bethoven stole his songs, that he created em and even held copyright of em for long time, we feel ashamed of the whole thing, no one likes chapulín colorado, everyone hates Chespirito
The Flash's villain is a version of Barry who wants to change the past no matter the consequences, which makes Barry realize he needs to be better, resolving his conflict.
The villain literally shows the hero a dark reflection of himself causing the hero to change.
I honestly think that's more thematically relevant than Carapace... He was only thematically relevant because he was also exploited by the CEO lady. But Jaime already knows the CEO lady exploits people, so he doesn't even grow as characters after learning this. Carapax could have been a robot or a sentient horse abused by the CEO lady and nothing really would have changed.
@@jahleel0077 Barry is the bee from bee movie
Great analysis again. The writers were too busy with modern identity tropes to worry about presenting an interesting well done script.
agreed. and i love representation but these fools need to also remember story.
What Filmento talks about in the 1st-half of this video regarding starting you off with who the character is and what they can do, etc is something i always likes about James Bond films, and the first few Indiana Jones films.
They would start the movie where we immediately join the protagonist near the END of the "previous" mission. We'd see the protagonist showing what they can, and can't do, overcoming some obstacles, etc and maybe even briefly get an introduction to some other characters.
When the mission is over, we settle at home/H.Q./etc and THEN the start of the movie's plot really begins. It's a great way for the audience to "hit the floor running" with a rollercoaster that achieves so much to give you some action, dialogue, characters, with adrenalin, tension, emotions, etc fired-up ready to start you on the real adventure.
I went to go see Blue Beetle in theaters because they caught me with the trailer and I wasn't dissapointed. It's sad to see it didn't get more marketing and better used characters to push the story forward but Jaime's writing is really good for what the movie is. Definitely worth a watch😊
In my teens, only reading x-men, spider-man and daredevil, I invented my own hero who's look was based off the green hornet, and I called him blue beetle. Then I found out about the DC character and was disappointed. Then Venture Brothers did Blue Morpho which was almost exactly my idea. I don't have a point to make, it just influenced my first impression of the character.
The original Blue Beetle (Dan Garret) was VERY green hornet in a bunch of ways. Beat cop who secretly fights police untouchables with invulnerable chainmail and super vitamins.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Beetle_(Dan_Garrett)
Based _on._
I thought I had created a original comic noir concept in my early 20s. Then I found out Sin City was already a thing. Right down to heavily black and white art with sparse primary colors to emphasize certain aspects. Pretty disappointed but I guess there is very little that hasn't been thought of before.
What bugged me about the movie was this:
How did the lab technician get back inside after Denise stole and used his key card to get the Scarab?
A movie about smashing mexican stereotypes shows how even most educated and takented mexican are very skilled pick-pocketers.
A job well done indeed.
Simple, he stole the key card back from that girl.
While your analysis on the critical narrative side was good I don't think this was the reason it didn't do well in the box office. On rotten tomatoes both critics and general audience loved the movie. It also followed the superhero origin story formula but since this is a character that not many know it focuses more on the protagonist and the family side characters so we at least resonate with the emotional beats. It doesn't help that the past 3 DC films bombed critically and financially so it makes sense that the general audience would not trust this brand to watch. You cannot forget that this movie released during a strike so there was almost no actors marketing and WB did nothing to market or push to theaters worldwide. If WB cared this easily could've been DCs Black Panther financially and culturally but again that is also due to Marvels success that guaranteed that people show up. I'm upset that this movie didn't fully succeed in theaters but I'm glad I saw it 5 times in theaters and that people who did watch it loved it too. Already have my preorder for 4k steelbook as well.
Black Panther showed culture. This movie didn't. It only showed complains and stereotypes. In addition, following the hero formula without a proper scenario is laughable but then it is a dc film so it is expected. If you loved this movie then no wonder this generation is screwed.
@@akashafofo6939there’s no way you’re saying a generation is screwed because someone enjoyed a movie.
The movie just missed too many points. The uncle and grandma having so much no how of the blue beetle and weapons/transportation without any back story on it. Like he said the intro was poor. Black Panther Atleast starts you off with a bit of history of who the black Panther is and that there is More than one, leading that to T’challas father who was the old BP killing his uncle. They showed they have some special lip tattoo that glows which gives exclusivity to the characters world. BP hits a lot of good points that you remember that was passed on to the following movies. Blue Beetle sadly missed out on most of those points. Plus the protagonist did everything in his power to get caught and put his family in a terrible position, which made him slightly dislikable as a protagonist. Spider-Man did it too in no way home but it was done differently.
I get the beginning. It was kinda like a beginner who just read about the hero's journey and decided to write the hero's in their daily life first but they forgot it's not a book
This story isn't really built for a theatrical release but it would have been a great streaming movie.
Hollywood still doesn't know the difference though smh
Ironically it was originally made for HBO Max and not theaters.
What the difference between a story made for movies and a story made for streaming? I feel like this is just an excuse for poorly made movies
@@user-x7dc2pq7n nono, hes right. you know, in streaming movies its good when the main character cant make his own decisions because a super powerfull alien artefact controlls him fully, in a normal movie on the other hand this is very very bad. this person is an expert obviously.
@@user-x7dc2pq7n if you watch many many movies and content generally(theater+streaming) you will notice a difference in the "formula" mostly because of the budget and scope of the movie…
@@user-x7dc2pq7n A mediocre movie with nothing special works for streaming since you can just watch it for free at home, but it doesn't work for the cinema. You need to justify people spending money and time to go watch it in the cinema with something more.
I loved the characters and the movie overall was MUCH more satisfying than the Flash. It wasn’t great but still legit good and seems like the best DC movie we’ll get this year with Aquaman’s apparently terrible screening impressions.
Nah, The Flash was better. At least you could see that it had certain plot points that it failed to deliver. You finish watching the flash, and you can say it has certain failings.
You finish watching Blue Beetle, and you finish watching Blue Beetle. There's nothing to talk about, to like or hate, you've just spent hours of your time on a movie that you feel nothing for afterwards. Not excitement, not annoyance, not even boredom. Just a passage of time, and the knowledge that it occupied that time
@@KingII_ yeah the worst sin a movie can do is be so forgettable like this.
@@KingII_That's good argument.
Counterargument: The Flash is worse because Ezra Miller is in it.
@@KingII_You feel like you have watched Superhero : The Movie.
DC has some INSANE stories just with the regulars of the Justice League. Why they thought Blue Beetle was a good choice blows my mind. I mean insane stuff that should be R rated and people would love it.
I honestly didn't even know the movie was released. Even more surprising is how fast the HD version of it was pirated. Not even a month into it's release.
I was honestly so ecstatic to hear your voice, it makes me so much more engaged in the video and the points that you raise, happy days!
Wow I remember feeling this movie was mediocre but now I really get why
What mainly did it for me, was that I felt like I’ve seen this movie before. Some of the scenes in the trailer already look like something I’ve seen in other films. Not only that but the super hero fatigue was already gettin to me. It’s a bummer because this movie could been delivered differently but instead they played it “safe”. DC had the opportunity to be bigger than (Disney marvel) but they blew it by trying to be like them.
I laughed that Jamie didn't want to kill, like Grandma didn't care! lol
"to be mexican means to stick together in every situation"
as a mexican, I can agree that all mexicans are literally inseparable
lmfao yeah I laughed when he said this. I think he meant something else here like Mexican *families* sticking together, not just "all Mexicans support every other Mexican in every situation" lol
I honestly cannot be the only one who interpreted the whole 'red versus blue' trope in this, can I ?
That's because there is a red beetle as well which is what they were going for it seems
Just like that one Halo fan series!
Vote democrat the movie
I agree with all your points except to add that the family were so mind numbingly unlikable, loud, bullying, entitled and complete Mary-Sues that the only enjoyment i got from this film is when they were actively hurt or upset.
I like the fast pace of everything. But then again I also believe the uncle has powers that he never says anything about (like being able to make tech work magically power).
Lol if you've ever worked with anything you know sometimes a kick to it gets the motor unstuck and let's it spin.
Ah… it’s good to hear your distinct voice again in a CZcams video.
The fact my bro called Jorge Lopez an unknown just shows how much people don’t know of him that much anymore. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Still I enjoyed this movie better than the Flash and Shazam 2 movie.
I heard one line from Lopez in this video and I was like "Oh I know that voice"
Though I guess he probably never made it to international audiences
You know stuff is going further and further downhill with superhero movies when movie theaters don’t even want to show it because they know nobody will go.
As someone who is very critical of DC, I actually liked this one
It's funny how the start is basically "foreshadowing, foreshadowing, one guy is all calm, the bad guys are up to something".
But the issue here is, the fun part is things HAPPENING, not being told they'll happen.
Wait, is this a variation of "show, don't tell"?
yes, you literally just answered your own question
its just Peter Parker in iron man + ant man movie but worse
That's correct, honnestly i like jamie as blue beetle but in young justice, he is just too secondary that it doesn't matter. Honnestly DC were dumbass to not make a cyborg movie then introduce the titans later
He in DCU
I felt this movie was a hodgepodge of rehashed scenes from other movies we've all seen before. Right up to the shot of the shaking drink from Jurassic Park.
Happy to hear Filmento back! Don't let those naysayers pull you down about your voice, it's iconic and makes the videos honestly so much more entertaining!
The way the characters talked about Ted Kord made him sound like a better protagonist, to me at least.
Side note: Jason Sudeikis as Ted Kord/Blue Beetle would be like Paul Rudd as Scott Lang/Ant-Man. Pretty neat.
SUPERHERO: THE MOVIE! Does this movie even have one single original idea outside of having a Hispanic protagonist?
i think blue beetle is the best dc film in awhile. so glad blue beetle will move into the new dcu.
14:20 If Jaime was an Engineer this would solve so many issues!
He bacame an Engineer to help his family's Autoshop
And he went to the Bad guys company because he's an engineer wanting a job.
And the Scarb chooses him because he's inventive with technology because he designs them!
We could even see at the end that Jaime makes one of his designs into a real weapon at the end with the Scarb!
Wasted opportunity dang
Why is he even a Lawyer???
I saw that movie in theatre just because there was a special a 4$ a ticket.
And I think I overpaid.
I had the impression of eating cold McDonald's.
You should have just buy a burger in macdonalds
You could use that title "Why the Audience Doesn't Care About You" for a video about whole DCEU. I'm 99% sure that even if WB made a good DCEU movie, it wouldn't change much, people don't care about those movies anymore.
Filmento, thank you very much for your content. I always think of your videos when I'm writing scripts. Just wanted to add that as a Portuguese myself, hearing CR7 soundbites always puts the cherry on top of a great video.
Wait...if the suit climbs out of him like his skeleton is separating...then how does my guy still have skin on his body?
What i am most surprised by after watching your video is that Blue Beetle has the same problem as Green Lantern, they both get their powers without a reason. They both fly around playing around without much control. Both are poorly written and their villains are underutilized. There are so many similarities, like what is DC thinking!
thats whats happen in the comics tho, if they changed the reason they got their power people would still complain either way
@@beatsbynine7922 Sure, i'm not saying the plot points should change. I am saying they could have made it interesting and that they repeated the same mistakes from GL. Saying they could not do it any other way is just lazy. The comics where popular for a reason and they should have been able to incorporate the plot points in a way that were suitable for movies.
there is alot they could change in the movie but fundamentaly the problem u have with him and gl on why they got their powers would still persist. they got their powers because they were chosen, changing it by making the villain experiment on him and force the scarab on him or something like would be deviating too much @@asbergan
@@beatsbynine7922 TL;DR No, the animated GL movie from 2009 used the same power gaining plot points as the live action move and was much better. Thus its not the pot points that is the problem, but how they are integrated into the story.
I do not think so, I am quite fond of both blue beetle and GL. For instance i recently watched the animated GL from 2009, which mirrors the plot points of the live action movie exactly. However, the animated movie was much better. I believe the problem is not the plot point per se, but instead how they are integrated into the overarching movie plot. The main problem i have with the live action GL is that his powers feel unearned. The solution is to have the character fight an uphill battle to prove he can use the powers, that he is worthy, that the ring made the correct choice. The same parallel can be drawn for blue beetle, his powers where gain not earned similar to GL. Thus the story needs to compensate in one way or another, proving to the viewer that he is worthy, otherwise its bad storytelling.
I understand what you mean now, I didn;t mind it because you essentially giving a kid world destroying power so he never going to be worth it. but yeah that approach would have probably been better@@asbergan
For the record, so great to hear your normal channel voice again: I definitely missed it these past couple of videos 😁
It was literally one video! you are a liar, why are are saying couple??????????????
So happy to hear your voice in the videos again!
Excellent video. Thank you for the feature! 🙏🏼
Well with the "My job here is done" attitude the director had towards pissing off fans, this was deserved.
What did he said?
It has problems but I actually liked the movie tho, its fun to watch.
imagine how much better it would be and more likely to get a sequel you could enjoy if they just followed basic story telling tried and true tactics
@@lowlowseesee that's exactly what it did? What part of the entire movie did your not understand?
@@an_anime_crepe828I agree
@@an_anime_crepe828I like how he doesn’t respond
The musket analogy is really good and incredibly fitting!
As a fan of the character of blue beetle, the very first mistake they made was aging him up so much. So many of the scenes would be more impactful if he was just a kid and not an adult.
Definitely not the worst film, just on the bad side of average. There were some scenes I enjoyed, but most of them didn't get explored the way I hoped they would
As usual, you're right. Such a waste of opportunity. The fact we got yet another evil villain that was evil just for the sake of it really bugged me (pun not intended). Susan Sarandon is more than a decent actress, she would've nailed a complex baddie.
They also scored George López, a super famous Latino comedian and actor, to play the crazy uncle. A shame the script was not up to it to make us care enough
The DC movie brand has been completely ruined by
1) Hack Snyder's terrible edgelord fanfiction vision for the characters
2) Warner Bros constantly changing course and panicking, having no plan or vision and rushing the cinematic universe desperately to catch up to Marvel
3) constant behind the scenes drama that kept making headlines
4) treating Henry Cavill and Ray Fisher like shit for no reason while doubling down on keeping Ezra Miller whom everyone hates
edgelord fanfiction is the perfect way to describe the snyderverse
I wish I could give this comment 2 thumbs up. Ive watched this awful universe crash and burn for 10 years now...
@@propheci 🤝
Not to worry friend, our suffering nears its end. Aquaman 2 will be the last stillborn baby this cursed mother pumps out of herself.
@@Korra228 I'm not planning in watching aquaman 2. especially with speculation that the baby will die.
@@maninanikittycat4238 I didn't even like the first movie.
I hope the guy who played Blue Beetle's dad gets more roles in the future. He was great!
Welcome back Filmento! It’s great to hear your voice again!
I'll just wait until we see what's in storage for the official DCU timeline cause it can't go anywhere but up at this point.
Nah, until and unless movies directors come out and openly crtiticize WB management for destroying DC movies, nothing will change.
Sad the movie flopped, it was a pretty good one in mine opinion...
Not my cup of tea but the actors were good
Trash movie
Wasted 2hours of my life
Now he's in the DCU
People who structure sentences the way you do like the movie, we get it.
I am genuinely baffled by how often incompetent filmmakers helm superhero films with $100 million budgets.
Is it personal favors? Sexual favors? Nepotism? They shot darts on a board with names? WTF is happening?
This movie is more focused on diversity than the story and formula itself
"Muchas gracias aficion. Esto es para vosotros. Siiiiiiuuu"
Didn't expect to hear that in a Filmento video🤣
Fun fact: The movie was supposed to be only released on MAX but the director insisted it becomes a theater release so they can show latino representation on the big screen for the first time
But did they succeed in representing Latinos if that was the ultimate goal?? I’ve never met anyone from Mexico but honest to god, the family dynamic was the most annoying part of the movie. Everything was done over the top, unless I’m overreacting??
Is this how Mexicans behave in a normal society coz if that’s the case, then I wouldn’t bother with another Mexican character in the future.
@@sh10anracist much?
@@beansael2454Mexican isn’t a race.
People forget the Mask of Zorro existed and had a Spaniard lead, and it's 1000x better.
The plot is so similar to the first live action transformer which came out in 2007.
You could see it from a mile away as soon as the MC met the “pretty girl”
guy meets girl > girl needs help from MC > MC saves the girl > guy and girl happy ending.
It’s like zzzz with story telling like this that came out almost two decades ago, they actually expect hit movies. 😂
I have to say though, it was one of the best DC movies. The other two are the first Wonder woman and Justice League. I haven't watched other DC movies TBH.
But all DC movies IMHO in general have this major flaw in them. It all boils down to this formula:
* Drop in the story where I don't care (something happened somewhere)
* Some background story - that doesn't add to anything.
* Some more cheeky character introduction with their own background stories.
* The bad guy with their own background stories.
* Some betrayal (mostly from both sides)
* Some mcguffin thats suddenly way more important than ever told.
* The bad guy get the upper hand because the good guy isn't motivated enough.
* Some kidnapping or something toward the vain of hurting a loved one.
* Good guy goes over the edge.
* Good guy realises they are on the good side.
* Bad guy redemption / sympathy.
* Resolution (End good, all good)
* Something that contradicts the end good all good. (mostly in the ACS - after credits scene)