Most of the time I watch just purely for entertainment, I have usually have no plans to actually do what is being explained. This one time is an exception and it's so easy to follow along.
If your going to build a NAS for home use, and you really want to Build one, rather than purchase a dedicated unit. Then i recommend FreeNAS. I recently made use of a old Dell i5 PC. Installed FreeNAS to boot off a fast USB key. Then fitted 4x 4TB drives inside the PC which FreeNAS has setup in RAID5 for redundancy. All i had to buy was the drives, since i already had the PC. And i decided to fit a Intel Pro 1000 Server NIC card, rather than the on-board one. Its absolutely superb. The old Dell is near silent and now we have a huge NAS for the entire family to use. The kids now keep all their college work on it rather than locally on their laptops which could get lost. The data is secure and has good redundancy. win win...
OMV runs on normal PC's too, and I have found it much easier to configure and use. Its docker integration is also superb. FreeNAS is nice if you want to dig a little deeper.
PLEASE NOTE THAT, since this video was made, the process for installing OpenMediaVault has changed. I have made an updated video featuring the new install method here: czcams.com/video/LOg4xfDQafc/video.html
@@garyjenkins2258 It is quite easy if you just follow this: github.com/OpenMediaVault-Plugin-Developers/docs/blob/master/Adden-B-Installing_OMV5_on_an%20R-PI.pdf
I may well do this. Though I would be surprised if the image files are not re-posted. I see that only the Odroid HC1/HC2 and XU4 now have directly downloadable OMV files -- which is a real shame.
What do you think about the changeover? And why do you think they decided to switch? Seems odd they would go from a full install image to an operating system install then package install via terminal
@@drwombat It is a very strange decision and change, as a lot of SBC owners used to download OMV images for their boards. It may, I guess, be a choice to reduce the use of OMV on SBCs. I am not sure. But it is a great shame. The new install method can work though -- as some in the comments here have indicated.
For everyone coming to this video in the late 2020 like myself please note that USB drives are not supported for raid setup in OMV. You can still mount them individually but no RAID goodness.
Especially about making tea and talking to ducks. It's very important. Not being satire. I have screwed many times just because I was not patient enough, then end up spending double the time fixing and starting again.
@@darwinvinci7744 Something I find enormously useful under Raspbian Pi (now Raspberry PI OS) is that I can install it under a virtual machine. I setup a "raspberry pi" under VMWare then archive my setup. Next, I start experimenting with it and record the steps. When I screw it up, I restore the archive and start over. Once I have a list of things to do in order to setup a real pi, I have all the steps needed. It's much faster to work on a virtual machine than a real one. Restoration takes a minute. All the packages for a real pi are available on the simulator. One thing I've noticed though - Kodi doesn't work well under a simulator. It's fine for understanding setup, but it's not usable that way.
Cheers from the U.S. You're my new favorite channel! I've officially added this to my list of pi projects. Not only do you explain the project itself amazingly clearly, but I love that you include the names of programs you use, and even where to download them! I've added at least 2 or 3 tools to my toolbox because of your videos. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU! :)
Hi Christopher, I know I'm late to the party, but thanks had some down time and a raspberry Pi and followed your tutorial and now have a fully working NAS no more running around with a usb disk drive backing up the family computers. I really enjoy your programs and have followed a few years now. Regards. Stray
Hi Chris, just commenting in case anyone else had the same problem I did. After following all your steps, I went to map network drive and tried to browse for the shared folder but windows was not detecting any network drives, even after I made sure network discovery was turned on. The problem was, I had to go to Control Panel>Programs and Features>on the left hand side click "Turn Windows features on or off'>scroll down and make sure "SMB 1.0" is checked. I believe is unchecked by default in later windows 10 versions. After restarting, I was then able to detect the raspberrypi network drive. ONE MORE STEP, windows security now wants log in credentials for the Pi which by default is Username: pi Password:raspberry. Now finally I was able to map the shared folder I created in OpenMediaVault and it works just fine. Hope this helps someone out there!
I was seen talking to a couple of ducks once. People thought I was quackers! But seriously, this is exactly what I need to expand access to multiple drives. I currently have a single bay NAS on the network.
I would be careful if you plan on more than one drive which would make sense in most cases, this would negate the Pi from the equation as you would want to look at a board with PCIe so you could use a 2x NVMe etc etc. Raid cards will be coming shortly also. Definitely a time to not be hasty
@Tony Lewis you don't really need a fast processor on a server, depending if you want a sftp server or a samba one. For the rest i agree with you, raspberry pi 4 is still a terrible idea.. as it will not even be a silent nas :D
@@SplatPearled Yeah yeah... there are dozens of better SBC, support is nothing. If you want to enter in the linux world you can manage to read some manual, only lazy asses always go to ask on a forum to do simple tasks. ARM processor is preatty bad as you cannot even run scientific software like Matlab, and it is still behind any x86 processor in terms of speed. Then, as this video shows, the gigabit ethernet is a plus but still lacks behind the older odroid xu4 (as you are able to get 100MB/s). The processor is still a quadcore (which is bad if you want to do heavy programming through multi-threading). The RPi4 is good for the maker who wants to participate to the maker faire, The raspberry pi foundation is proving itself to be really bad, as this is another hot SBC and they even managed to forget a resistor for the USB-C. I hope new SBC will use RISC-V architecture, I am preatty tired of ARM. I hope more guys will support the RISC-V architecture, so i will not read "lot of support" anymore!
Bet the Raspberry Pi Foundation never imagined their devices would be used for all these different projects, absolutely amazing. I have two (zeros) scanning live aircraft traffic.
I think it's the opposite. That was the main idea. To have people tinker with it and learn. O course I don't think they were able to foresee all the options and ideas. :)
@@jl_woodworks But the first Pi was really underpowered. Don't forget it in just seven years have gone from a very slow 700 Mhz single core SoC with 256 MB of RAM to a 1,5 GHz quad core SoC with far higher IPC and 4 GB of RAM. If most computers have since seen an performance increase of roughly 50-100 percent in the last seven years RPi have seen at least a 1000 percent increase in performance. As well as added wifi and bluetooth, more ports, higher power-draw etc.
@Samantha Anders Links shown below, I use a zero but of course any Pi will do. To track a USB ads-b tuner is needed (not expensive at all, between £8 to £20), this plugs in to the USB socket of the Pi and is used for picking up signals from aircraft. The software is freely available and a preferred one is from FlightAware.com who also have a brilliant forum. If the zero is used then, as it only has a microUSB port then an adapter is needed, this is often sold with a zero or can be purchased separately from same link below where ads-b tuner bought. Also, if you've heard of FlightAware or FlightRadar24 (similar but different) both offer enhanced services if you submit your data to them. It is a great fun project, useful too. shop.pimoroni.com/products/dvb-t-dongle-ideal-for-ads-b-real-time-plane-tracking flightaware.com/adsb/piaware/build
That sounds a great idea but can I monitor ATC on a Windows PC @GeoffLane as I don't have a Pi but I have plenty of windows PC's thanks in advance. I just want to be able to listen to live ATC on my PC then broadcast it live to some website for everyone to listen to on PC/tablet/Phone or what ever device has an internet browser
@@SweBeach2023 7 years ago there were NAS out there with 800Mhz CPU, even 5 years ago. You don't need a powerful CPU for NAS, indeed the Pi4 would be considered quite punchy even today. Unfortunately what you do need the Pi is generally missing, SATA being the obvious one. The Pi4 is being pitched as a desktop replacement so it should be able to act as a NAS at least.
The way you explain stuff is very informational helpful. Most tech youtubers do not explain how these software and hardware configuration goes in a real life situation like you do. Subscribed!
Excellent video. I followed along with my PI 4. Only problem I had was I used a USB that was formatted from the factory in xFat. I got an error when I tried to create the share and allow guests only. Unmounted the drive, reformatted on my PC. Remounted the drive on the PI and everything worked perfectly. Was never sure it had really finished installation. But after enjoying two cups of coffee, I was able to web into my PI. Perfect! Always love these videos
Excellent clear explanation as always, very encouraging. As a low cost experiment I built a media server with a Pi 1 model B Rev 1.3 running librelec Kodi. Attached an old sata HD to it. Cable connection to my router, using the usb output to power the Pi. All bits I had lying around. The music can be accessed by my iPhone on a Sonos app through the Sonos system, no other software setup required. Kodi is very easy to use. Took about 2 hours in total.
I think this is especially true with things like IPv6. That's pure witchcraft. I can do IPv4 but those hex numbers confuse me. No wonder they didn't teach it at my university: only IPv4
For we of the uninitiated in NAS, this was a godsend!!! Thank you Chris! I will be streaming like mad as soon as I get all my parts. No more copying to flash drives for me!!!!!!
I really enjoyed this tutorial and your clear and factual way of explaining the process. For a long time, I wanted to install a "NAS", I still have to order a Raspberry Pi. Many thanks for your work.
I love your sense of humor. Especially the bit about the ducks in the park. After watching this I may have to set up a NAS at home now for my home to hold all of my content for my CZcams channel and important files that I want to access at the house but I don't want to keep them on my pc or I want to be able to access it on either pc.
Thank you for this video. I've been want to set up a Pi NAS since the 4 now has 1GB Ethernet. Tried the hard way, no luck. I was up and running in no time.
I really appreciate the effort and care that went into this guide. It helped me get my NAS up and running, thanks! p.s. you may have mentioned this but I had to erase the disk and reformat it in ext-4 for it to be recognized as a device when creating a Shared Folder. It was in ex-FAT.
Finally an easier way to make a nas, even though my broadband hub lets me add a drive to it. My hub is a bit awkward at times so this will help me out loads.... Since my first comment I bought a new Pi and an external drive, now my 4tb nas is up and running and all my vids and music are being migrated over there. I'm really glad that this vid exists it was a big help. 👍
Thanks to your videos I bought a Raspberry Pi 4 for my 4k media player, works so flawless it isn't funny. Running it on the slowest SD card on the planet, ancient 2gb one, LibreELEC OS. Ran into some thermal throttle issues but bought the pimoroni fan shim and that solved it 100% :) I tried quite a few "4k media player" boxes, but all of them struggled, didn't support some types of 7.1 audio, had stuttering with h265, etc. Zero problems with the Pi 4 and LibreELEC. Thanks again
The low write speed could be due to using NTFS on the network drive. It would be interesting to compare it with a native Linux filesystem such as ext4.
It could also be due to the fact that the SD card used is a regular SD card - those are designed for sequential large data writes. When trying to set up the program it's doing random io read/writes in small chunks - regular SD cards totally suck at that. Try using an A1 rated SD card - these are optimized for running apps. (i hear the A2 rated ones don't really offer any extra benefits despite the much higher performance ratings on paper).
Really interesting. I have a pi 3 sat doing nothing at the moment. I’ll also be looking at whether open media vault can raid drives or if there is an auto backup solution so that the shared drive is protected. Food for thought. Great video.
I did try OpenMediaVault out on my home server a Thecus N5810PRO Nas, last year. It worked without any problems and recognised the existing Raid setup too. A very versatile Nas OS indeed.
It's nice to know that OMV can read NTFS now. I have several external hard drives full of media in NTFS that I wouldn't want to have to copy over to new/reformatted drives.
I am huge fan of your videos. I love to share them with my friends and family that aren't so computer savvy. Even as a nerd I don't have enough time to keep up with all this awesome SBC projects. This gives me a chance to listen while I am writing code updates or scripting in my own work environment! Keep it up man!
That's a shame that they removed the image. I was able to follow the instructions for the other installation method in the description. It was fairly simple. Thanks for keeping up with the changes.
Thank goodness I have watched loads of videos on this subject and yours is by far the easiest to follow. Great video thanks :*)
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Awesome tutorial! Good and clear explanation is what I was needing to setup something like this. I’ve been watching some tutorials on CZcams and all of them seemed very complicated.
Awesome video. Thanks for supporting the Raspberry Pi community through your efforts. Knowledge sharing is pivotal in creating innovative open source communities. Love your work, keep it up.
Excellent explanation. You give great clarity in explaining how to do something. Keep the educational videos coming. I always learn from watching your videos.
You could spend thousands of $$ on pre-made NAS systems but, as usual, it's the RPi to the rescue. If you're just transferring files a few times a week, this solution is excellent. Possibly you could show how to extend this for access from anywhere (with a web connection), or even access over a VPN? Thanks for another great video Chris.
We are clearly on the same wavelength here -- this is a basic solution which is sufficient for what many people need -- and also helps people to learn about technology. Absolutely it could be extended as you say, and I may well do a video on that. :)
Set one up this morning, using both an SSD, and then adding a 2.5 hard drive I had laying around to see if adding storage would be easy, it was with a powered USB hub. I plan on now adding a raid system for my plex server soon. Thanks Christopher!
@@ExplainingComputers I have a 2 TB drive hooked up to an Archer C9 router to do a basic NAS. Can't pinpoint the operating system the router uses, but NTFS drive writes are only half the speed of any prior Miscrosoft formats such as FAT32. There must be some serious overhead issues using NTFS on non-Microsoft systems.
@@ExplainingComputers NTFS driver in openmediavault is probably based on NTFS-3G driver that uses FUSE and is known to have painfully slow write performance. Please format your SSD to ext4 and then try the write speed.
Another way to find the network address of your server is to open the configuration web pages of your router, where there will likely be a table in one of the sections showing what is connected.
I love this tutorial soo much! You have taught me so much about how easy it has become to set up a nas on a pi as well as an important life lesson about patience. Thanks mate! Ps. I knew you were serious about patience when you went to settings and waited for the scroll bar to appear so that you could click and drag it down as opposed to just scrolling, it’s a small touch that made this a great tutorial ♥️
Another excellent video. You describe every step very thoroughly! I use OMV as my home NAS. I'm running it on an HP Z400 with 32tb storage. So glad I did this rather than buying a NAS. I also run other services on the server using Docker. By the way, please use the flash memory plugin in OMV to decrease writes on your microSD card and preserve its lifespan. I love your wallpaper. Can we get a copy please?
I think this is the best solution for a low cost NAS considering it's own low power draw,i used a raspberry pi 3 and a simple usb HDD for over an year now and it's working great for it's job (torrenting and smb file sharing mostly)
Works only *after* the local network traffic has been established (the device you want to see IP for already has to exist in the routing table of the machine you're on, and if not then arp doesn't "see" that device).
The Pi foundation just made it easier to usb-boot from a usb drive in their latest updates! They've added options in terminal raspi-config, so projects like this are simpler to set up. Also, with rpi os booting from usb, the sdcard slot becomes an additional external drive for extra coolness. Hope this helps someone
I setup OpenMediaVault with a Rock64 last year. I have four HDDs connected via a powered USB 3.0 hub. Two HDDs are 4TB and two HHDs are 5TB. It also uses an Ethernet connection. I bought the 4GB version of the Rock64 and noticed it only uses less than 10% of the available RAM. I use the NAS to back up my PCs and store video files. I have the NAS in my basement and tend to forget it's there. I mapped the drives on my primary Windows PC. I just did a CrystalDiskMark test and got a Seq read of 100MB/s and a Seq write of 104MB/s.
@@christhompson481 I use a Plugable 7 port powered USB 3.0 hub. The HDDs are were bought as external USB drives such as a Seagate Expansion and a My Book. I bought a generic USB enclosure for another HDD. This USB hub has been doing well, but I have another on a PC that is giving me problems and have plans to replace it. I had the hubs for a few years. Before I installed OMV on the Rock 64, I was using an RPi 2 with samba. I had a power failure and the RPi 2 wouldn't reboot. I decided then to upgrade. The HDDs have been reformatted as Linux drives (ext4?). When I upgraded, I bought a 5TG drive to replace a 2 TB drive. I made the transfers using a Windows/Ubuntu dual boot laptop. I first reformatted the new drive and copied data from an NTFS drive. Reformatted that drive and did another copy, etc. I assumed there was less overhead for Linux formatted drives.
I took your advice and went for a walk to the park and talk to some ducks, lo and behold I came across a Double Decker Duck :o) Thanks for all your great video's so relaxing and informative. cheers and all the best
2:11 Awwwwww, CUTE , look at that tiny little HDD (Sarcasm 🤣🤣🤣) EXCELLENT video by the way, but I do however feel that Any RaspPi for running OpenMediaVault is kind of useless due to network read/write speeds and its own internal clock speeds for file sharing etc, however this is Ideal for someone just wanting to setup something that is quick and cheap. Ps. I have also encountered OMV wining about RAM so it may be better to either go for the 2 or 4GB variant (but as you said, for something this cheap to setup, you can't really complain) Ps. Another VERY easy way to locate your IP of the RaspPi, is to have an android device on the same network with "Fing" installed, and just do a refresh on Fing and presto, no messing about with WinBlows trying to find the IP 👍👍👍
maxium RESPECT ! You are a great tutor/mentor for all of your follwers (too.) i do it since c64, but i always learn something new from You ! GiGA THNX EC Guy !
Hi. Maybe you can do a new video about setting up a Pi-NAS. This video explains it, but that software is no longer available. That video gets the most hits overall and per month from all your video's so many people are disappointed when they find out that following the video does no longer work. Maybe you can even do a 2 part. Part 1 setting it up the new way and part 2 how to do rights so that the NAS is only visible for me, not for the rest of the users in my network. Others do not need to see my "X" video's. LOL. Maybe compare it with other boards too. My P4 goes only 30 MB/s with that USB 3.
The OMV software is still available, but the install method has changed (see my pinned comment and the video description). But I may indeed do a follow-up video including the new install method. :)
Thank you for another of your verry good videos! I have several requests: 1. Please make a video where you show how to create and configure the NAS software from Raspbian. 2. I have several 3.5 HDDs lying around and I would like to create a NAS solution using at least 4 of them. I would like to put them into a dedicated case (a very cheap one) and connect the raspberry pi 4 to that case to use all of the HDDs. They would draw the power from a plug. Could you create a video for this, in a similar fashion to the one above? 3. Could you connect an external battery to the pi 4 and the battery to the plug? Would this work like a UPS for the raspberry? I would very much enjoy a video testing this idea.
Thanks for this tutorial. I intend to use OMV to backup my data using FreeSileSync. I will install FreeFileSync on my computers and create a batch file (on each computer) that will automatically make a copy of new or edited files on the external drive connected to the RPi.
I did that a while ago with a Raspberry Pi 3B+ and an external *low power* hard disk (powered by the Pi's USB, no external PSU). some Seagate hard drives for laptops work just fine (as long as you're not adding too many USB devices on the Pi). That makes an affordable and very portable NAS.
i'd recommend having OMV reformat the SSD to ext4, NTFS does work under linux (which OMV is) but i have seen some rare problems with NTFS under linux so ext4 is safer
I really enjoy your channel, SBCs are simply awesome. Thank you for all the information and ideas. I use OMV on an xu4 + 1tb ssd, works great with up to 800 mbps transfer speed on a 1 gb network. It would be ideal imho if the whole system running from an ssd but I did not figure out how to do that yet.
So fallowed this tutorial step by step, which resulted in a very heated political debate with a couple mallards down at the park. Great video. Thank you. Any chance will you do a video on FreeNAS? Maybe a non web based solution?
Thanks for the quality content videos. Very clear explainatory. I recently bougt a rasberry pi to play and tweak. Though i was wondering if i can do a combo of some projects in just one pi running at the same time. 1- NAS. 2- Pi Hole . 3- Media centre with retro pi and cody. 4- Web server host. Thanks in advance guys to all this beautiful community.
Alao i want to pint our that most of the router/switch/ap combo units these days come with a usb3 port that can enable file sharing, good example are cisco broadband modems, all of theme have at least 2 usbs, one for printer sharing and one for file sharing, thus can eliminate the need of many cables and aditional power usgae. Still this is a cool little project to do in spare time
Most of these also tend to be very very slow. Even on a high-end router don't expect more than 30-40 MB/s, and on many mainstream routers 4-5 MB/s is not uncommon. Which is a bit of a shame considering a router with a single 2.5 inch drive for many could become a simple of not 100 reliable backup solution.
I use an “Icy Dock” for mine, works good. I would suggest a powered USB hub because the Pi’s tend to picky about powering stuff directly, the ICY Dock has its own power supply so it doesn’t matter... and it makes the drives hot swappable, not the it “really” matters... if you really need hot swappable drives, you ain’t looking at a Pi as your NAS...
I have to mention that when searching for the IP address of the Pi you may need to go a little outside the scope of the suggested parameters. For example my Pi was 192.168.0.103. It caused a little confusion because I was searching in the 192.168.1. ... range.
@@Pekeliini Windows will be able to write to the drive via the network just fine (as Windows will be unaware of the format of a network drive). But you could not plug the drive directly into Windows and access it.
Most of the time I watch just purely for entertainment, I have usually have no plans to actually do what is being explained. This one time is an exception and it's so easy to follow along.
If your going to build a NAS for home use, and you really want to Build one, rather than purchase a dedicated unit. Then i recommend FreeNAS. I recently made use of a old Dell i5 PC. Installed FreeNAS to boot off a fast USB key. Then fitted 4x 4TB drives inside the PC which FreeNAS has setup in RAID5 for redundancy. All i had to buy was the drives, since i already had the PC. And i decided to fit a Intel Pro 1000 Server NIC card, rather than the on-board one. Its absolutely superb. The old Dell is near silent and now we have a huge NAS for the entire family to use. The kids now keep all their college work on it rather than locally on their laptops which could get lost. The data is secure and has good redundancy. win win...
Try nextclound. its amazing!
OMV runs on normal PC's too, and I have found it much easier to configure and use. Its docker integration is also superb. FreeNAS is nice if you want to dig a little deeper.
@@jonneymendoza Nextcloud is not NAS software.
@@Cicirifu yes it is plus more
PLEASE NOTE THAT, since this video was made, the process for installing OpenMediaVault has changed. I have made an updated video featuring the new install method here: czcams.com/video/LOg4xfDQafc/video.html
Would you possibly have the time to make another video that outlines the different installation process?
@@garyjenkins2258 It is quite easy if you just follow this: github.com/OpenMediaVault-Plugin-Developers/docs/blob/master/Adden-B-Installing_OMV5_on_an%20R-PI.pdf
I may well do this. Though I would be surprised if the image files are not re-posted. I see that only the Odroid HC1/HC2 and XU4 now have directly downloadable OMV files -- which is a real shame.
What do you think about the changeover? And why do you think they decided to switch? Seems odd they would go from a full install image to an operating system install then package install via terminal
@@drwombat It is a very strange decision and change, as a lot of SBC owners used to download OMV images for their boards. It may, I guess, be a choice to reduce the use of OMV on SBCs. I am not sure. But it is a great shame. The new install method can work though -- as some in the comments here have indicated.
For everyone coming to this video in the late 2020 like myself please note that USB drives are not supported for raid setup in OMV. You can still mount them individually but no RAID goodness.
Is there a RAID solution for Raspberry Pi and OMV?
@@haircutboys since OMV 5 does not support USB drives for RAID personally haven't tried to find a workaround to make RAID work.
Thank you for exposing in detail, as a beginner to computers it makes a huge difference when trying to learn. 🙏
After getting out of the USAF I talked to the Ducts quite often for a while.
Especially about making tea and talking to ducks. It's very important.
Not being satire. I have screwed many times just because I was not patient enough, then end up spending double the time fixing and starting again.
@@darwinvinci7744 Something I find enormously useful under Raspbian Pi (now Raspberry PI OS) is that I can install it under a virtual machine. I setup a "raspberry pi" under VMWare then archive my setup. Next, I start experimenting with it and record the steps. When I screw it up, I restore the archive and start over. Once I have a list of things to do in order to setup a real pi, I have all the steps needed.
It's much faster to work on a virtual machine than a real one. Restoration takes a minute. All the packages for a real pi are available on the simulator.
One thing I've noticed though - Kodi doesn't work well under a simulator. It's fine for understanding setup, but it's not usable that way.
Cheers from the U.S. You're my new favorite channel! I've officially added this to my list of pi projects. Not only do you explain the project itself amazingly clearly, but I love that you include the names of programs you use, and even where to download them! I've added at least 2 or 3 tools to my toolbox because of your videos. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU! :)
Thanks Stan. :)
Hi Christopher, I know I'm late to the party, but thanks had some down time and a raspberry Pi and followed your tutorial and now have a fully working NAS no more running around with a usb disk drive backing up the family computers. I really enjoy your programs and have followed a few years now. Regards. Stray
Great to hear. :)
Hi Chris, just commenting in case anyone else had the same problem I did. After following all your steps, I went to map network drive and tried to browse for the shared folder but windows was not detecting any network drives, even after I made sure network discovery was turned on. The problem was, I had to go to Control Panel>Programs and Features>on the left hand side click "Turn Windows features on or off'>scroll down and make sure "SMB 1.0" is checked. I believe is unchecked by default in later windows 10 versions. After restarting, I was then able to detect the raspberrypi network drive. ONE MORE STEP, windows security now wants log in credentials for the Pi which by default is Username: pi Password:raspberry. Now finally I was able to map the shared folder I created in OpenMediaVault and it works just fine. Hope this helps someone out there!
Thanks for sharing this.
THE tutorial I needed ages ago, it covers the "is it right for me" and the how to. Great job 😉
I am always interested on how you make things work so easy that we can understand how to do it ourselves. Thanks for all your hard work.
We can appreciate how much time and effort is put into working out the solutions prior to making these videos.
This is the first video of yours that I've watched, and you're such a good teacher. I enjoyed your suggestion to go talk to some ducks.
I was seen talking to a couple of ducks once. People thought I was quackers!
But seriously, this is exactly what I need to expand access to multiple drives. I currently have a single bay NAS on the network.
I've been thinking about an NAS... I had not considered the Raspberry Pi option! Thank you for this excellent idea. This is going to happen!
Buy another board, like an odroid hc1 or similar ;)
I would be careful if you plan on more than one drive which would make sense in most cases, this would negate the Pi from the equation as you would want to look at a board with PCIe so you could use a 2x NVMe etc etc. Raid cards will be coming shortly also.
Definitely a time to not be hasty
@Tony Lewis you don't really need a fast processor on a server, depending if you want a sftp server or a samba one. For the rest i agree with you, raspberry pi 4 is still a terrible idea.. as it will not even be a silent nas :D
@@SplatPearled Yeah yeah... there are dozens of better SBC, support is nothing. If you want to enter in the linux world you can manage to read some manual, only lazy asses always go to ask on a forum to do simple tasks.
ARM processor is preatty bad as you cannot even run scientific software like Matlab, and it is still behind any x86 processor in terms of speed.
Then, as this video shows, the gigabit ethernet is a plus but still lacks behind the older odroid xu4 (as you are able to get 100MB/s). The processor is still a quadcore (which is bad if you want to do heavy programming through multi-threading).
The RPi4 is good for the maker who wants to participate to the maker faire, The raspberry pi foundation is proving itself to be really bad, as this is another hot SBC and they even managed to forget a resistor for the USB-C. I hope new SBC will use RISC-V architecture, I am preatty tired of ARM.
I hope more guys will support the RISC-V architecture, so i will not read "lot of support" anymore!
look at your router for NAS options as well.
Bet the Raspberry Pi Foundation never imagined their devices would be used for all these different projects, absolutely amazing. I have two (zeros) scanning live aircraft traffic.
I think it's the opposite. That was the main idea. To have people tinker with it and learn. O course I don't think they were able to foresee all the options and ideas. :)
@@jl_woodworks But the first Pi was really underpowered. Don't forget it in just seven years have gone from a very slow 700 Mhz single core SoC with 256 MB of RAM to a 1,5 GHz quad core SoC with far higher IPC and 4 GB of RAM. If most computers have since seen an performance increase of roughly 50-100 percent in the last seven years RPi have seen at least a 1000 percent increase in performance. As well as added wifi and bluetooth, more ports, higher power-draw etc.
@Samantha Anders Links shown below, I use a zero but of course any Pi will do. To track a USB ads-b tuner is needed (not expensive at all, between £8 to £20), this plugs in to the USB socket of the Pi and is used for picking up signals from aircraft.
The software is freely available and a preferred one is from FlightAware.com who also have a brilliant forum. If the zero is used then, as it only has a microUSB port then an adapter is needed, this is often sold with a zero or can be purchased separately from same link below where ads-b tuner bought.
Also, if you've heard of FlightAware or FlightRadar24 (similar but different) both offer enhanced services if you submit your data to them.
It is a great fun project, useful too.
shop.pimoroni.com/products/dvb-t-dongle-ideal-for-ads-b-real-time-plane-tracking
flightaware.com/adsb/piaware/build
That sounds a great idea but can I monitor ATC on a Windows PC @GeoffLane as I don't have a Pi but I have plenty of windows PC's thanks in advance. I just want to be able to listen to live ATC on my PC then broadcast it live to some website for everyone to listen to on PC/tablet/Phone or what ever device has an internet browser
@@SweBeach2023 7 years ago there were NAS out there with 800Mhz CPU, even 5 years ago. You don't need a powerful CPU for NAS, indeed the Pi4 would be considered quite punchy even today. Unfortunately what you do need the Pi is generally missing, SATA being the obvious one. The Pi4 is being pitched as a desktop replacement so it should be able to act as a NAS at least.
The way you explain stuff is very informational helpful. Most tech youtubers do not explain how these software and hardware configuration goes in a real life situation like you do. Subscribed!
Thanks for the sub -- welcome aboard!
Excellent video. I followed along with my PI 4. Only problem I had was I used a USB that was formatted from the factory in xFat. I got an error when I tried to create the share and allow guests only. Unmounted the drive, reformatted on my PC. Remounted the drive on the PI and everything worked perfectly. Was never sure it had really finished installation. But after enjoying two cups of coffee, I was able to web into my PI. Perfect! Always love these videos
I used a previous video from ExplaningComputers to configure a NAS for my home system and it works flawlessly. Thanks, Christopher.
Great to hear! :)
Wow, This video explains a whole lot better then most video talking about this topic
Excellent clear explanation as always, very encouraging. As a low cost experiment I built a media server with a Pi 1 model B Rev 1.3 running librelec Kodi. Attached an old sata HD to it. Cable connection to my router, using the usb output to power the Pi. All bits I had lying around. The music can be accessed by my iPhone on a Sonos app through the Sonos system, no other software setup required. Kodi is very easy to use. Took about 2 hours in total.
I've been in IT for 3 decades, but certainly networks is a black art. This is a fantastic video. Much thanks.
I think this is especially true with things like IPv6. That's pure witchcraft. I can do IPv4 but those hex numbers confuse me. No wonder they didn't teach it at my university: only IPv4
Talking to a duck is the best therapy ever
Not if it talks back 😬😂
Eating it with pancakes would be better
@@PhilipLeichauer kkkkk.....
Just make sure it's a duck and not a goose. I've heard those British geese can be quite rude.
You must be quackers
Ingenious use of the Pi4. Thanks for the presentation, with terrific attention to detail!
For we of the uninitiated in NAS, this was a godsend!!! Thank you Chris! I will be streaming like mad as soon as I get all my parts. No more copying to flash drives for me!!!!!!
as always, it's Cclear as water of rock.
I would have liked to have a teacher like you in high school ! Great job, mister E.C.!
Thank you for this nice test. I am a French IT student, I don't know how I can understand your english so easily. Thank you :)
I really enjoyed this tutorial and your clear and factual way of explaining the process. For a long time, I wanted to install a "NAS", I still have to order a Raspberry Pi. Many thanks for your work.
These videos have reignited my interest in Pi.
I’ll be buying the Pi 4 and and getting back into pi land. Subscribed.
Great to hear -- and welcome aboard! :)
I love your sense of humor. Especially the bit about the ducks in the park. After watching this I may have to set up a NAS at home now for my home to hold all of my content for my CZcams channel and important files that I want to access at the house but I don't want to keep them on my pc or I want to be able to access it on either pc.
Thank you for this video. I've been want to set up a Pi NAS since the 4 now has 1GB Ethernet. Tried the hard way, no luck. I was up and running in no time.
I really appreciate the effort and care that went into this guide. It helped me get my NAS up and running, thanks! p.s. you may have mentioned this but I had to erase the disk and reformat it in ext-4 for it to be recognized as a device when creating a Shared Folder. It was in ex-FAT.
Finally an easier way to make a nas, even though my broadband hub lets me add a drive to it. My hub is a bit awkward at times so this will help me out loads....
Since my first comment I bought a new Pi and an external drive, now my 4tb nas is up and running and all my vids and music are being migrated over there.
I'm really glad that this vid exists it was a big help. 👍
Thanks to your videos I bought a Raspberry Pi 4 for my 4k media player, works so flawless it isn't funny. Running it on the slowest SD card on the planet, ancient 2gb one, LibreELEC OS. Ran into some thermal throttle issues but bought the pimoroni fan shim and that solved it 100% :) I tried quite a few "4k media player" boxes, but all of them struggled, didn't support some types of 7.1 audio, had stuttering with h265, etc. Zero problems with the Pi 4 and LibreELEC. Thanks again
The low write speed could be due to using NTFS on the network drive. It would be interesting to compare it with a native Linux filesystem such as ext4.
Very good thinking.
@@ExplainingComputers Yes please do a follow up :)
Xfs for larger files.
Indeed. NTFS support will be via user space processes such as Fuse, which will add some latency.
It could also be due to the fact that the SD card used is a regular SD card - those are designed for sequential large data writes. When trying to set up the program it's doing random io read/writes in small chunks - regular SD cards totally suck at that. Try using an A1 rated SD card - these are optimized for running apps. (i hear the A2 rated ones don't really offer any extra benefits despite the much higher performance ratings on paper).
Really interesting. I have a pi 3 sat doing nothing at the moment. I’ll also be looking at whether open media vault can raid drives or if there is an auto backup solution so that the shared drive is protected. Food for thought. Great video.
If you can the pi 4 is much better suited to NAS use than the 3. The 3 has much worse bottlenecks in IO
I did try OpenMediaVault out on my home server a Thecus N5810PRO Nas, last year. It worked without any problems and recognised the existing Raid setup too. A very versatile Nas OS indeed.
It's nice to know that OMV can read NTFS now. I have several external hard drives full of media in NTFS that I wouldn't want to have to copy over to new/reformatted drives.
I am huge fan of your videos. I love to share them with my friends and family that aren't so computer savvy. Even as a nerd I don't have enough time to keep up with all this awesome SBC projects. This gives me a chance to listen while I am writing code updates or scripting in my own work environment! Keep it up man!
Thanks.
That's a shame that they removed the image. I was able to follow the instructions for the other installation method in the description. It was fairly simple. Thanks for keeping up with the changes.
i wanna copy too. wonder where out there in the abyss i could find a copy?
This guy is brilliant.......very direct explanations in simple clear language..........many thanks, please keep the videos coming.
Thank goodness I have watched loads of videos on this subject and yours is by far the easiest to follow. Great video thanks :*)
Awesome tutorial! Good and clear explanation is what I was needing to setup something like this.
I’ve been watching some tutorials on CZcams and all of them seemed very complicated.
Useful, thorough, excellent, funny ... what more could anyone ask for? Thank you Chris!
One of the best AND cheapest NAS i've ever seen
Awesome video. Thanks for supporting the Raspberry Pi community through your efforts.
Knowledge sharing is pivotal in creating innovative open source communities. Love your work, keep it up.
Excellent explanation. You give great clarity in explaining how to do something. Keep the educational videos coming. I always learn from watching your videos.
You could spend thousands of $$ on pre-made NAS systems but, as usual, it's the RPi to the rescue. If you're just transferring files a few times a week, this solution is excellent. Possibly you could show how to extend this for access from anywhere (with a web connection), or even access over a VPN? Thanks for another great video Chris.
We are clearly on the same wavelength here -- this is a basic solution which is sufficient for what many people need -- and also helps people to learn about technology. Absolutely it could be extended as you say, and I may well do a video on that. :)
@@ExplainingComputers Please do this! I've love to see a guide explaining how to extend this to accessing files remotely via the web.
Great video. Probably one of the best examples of how to actually set a NAS and provide an example of it working. Great job. Also, I want a duck now.
Set one up this morning, using both an SSD, and then adding a 2.5 hard drive I had laying around to see if adding storage would be easy, it was with a powered USB hub. I plan on now adding a raid system for my plex server soon. Thanks Christopher!
A productive morning then! :)
If you use EXT4 as the hard disk format, your ''write speed'' will be up to 120MB per second
Good point. I had not thought of the file system being a constraint.
@@ExplainingComputers I have a 2 TB drive hooked up to an Archer C9 router to do a basic NAS. Can't pinpoint the operating system the router uses, but NTFS drive writes are only half the speed of any prior Miscrosoft formats such as FAT32. There must be some serious overhead issues using NTFS on non-Microsoft systems.
@@bobtheelectrician6692 Very interesting feedback. IT certainly looks like it is NTFS that is responsible for the slow write speed in the Pi 4 NAS.
@@ExplainingComputers NTFS driver in openmediavault is probably based on NTFS-3G driver that uses FUSE and is known to have painfully slow write performance. Please format your SSD to ext4 and then try the write speed.
Would love to see a follow up video of how to change it and how much the difference is!
Me: wants to make a Nas pi
Instructions: go to park & talk to ducks
Me: seems legit *grabs bread*
:)
Recently discovered this channel and I think it's absolutely fantastic. So much thorough information. Thank you.
You wouldn't believe how much time I could have saved if I had found your video earlier...
Another way to find the network address of your server is to open the configuration web pages of your router, where there will likely be a table in one of the sections showing what is connected.
I love this tutorial soo much! You have taught me so much about how easy it has become to set up a nas on a pi as well as an important life lesson about patience. Thanks mate! Ps. I knew you were serious about patience when you went to settings and waited for the scroll bar to appear so that you could click and drag it down as opposed to just scrolling, it’s a small touch that made this a great tutorial ♥️
Thanks for your positive feedback, appreciated.
That was a lot of fun. I did it while having a root canal. The root canal made this process much more bearable!
I used the new tutorial to set up OMV on my Pi 4 and used your video. And it worked. Just to be clear that I used the same SSD you did lol.
Another excellent video. You describe every step very thoroughly!
I use OMV as my home NAS. I'm running it on an HP Z400 with 32tb storage. So glad I did this rather than buying a NAS. I also run other services on the server using Docker. By the way, please use the flash memory plugin in OMV to decrease writes on your microSD card and preserve its lifespan. I love your wallpaper. Can we get a copy please?
46 dislikes (so far)? What's not to like? Great instructional video Chris, thanks for sharing it.
2000 years ago even J.C. had dislikes.
I didn't know omv4 has such a long and independent first setup process thx for that info.
I think this is the best solution for a low cost NAS considering it's own low power draw,i used a raspberry pi 3 and a simple usb HDD for over an year now and it's working great for it's job (torrenting and smb file sharing mostly)
SURPRISE SURPRISE... I love his EXPLANATION
Prompt command “arp -a” will give you all the ip's in your network on windows machine, no need for extra software.
Works only *after* the local network traffic has been established (the device you want to see IP for already has to exist in the routing table of the machine you're on, and if not then arp doesn't "see" that device).
@@DejanTesic wonder if a that OS would respond to a broadcast ping. To run the ARP -a afterwards.
nmap
You have one of most interesting channels on the tube and like always your video is great. kudos on all the work.
The Pi foundation just made it easier to usb-boot from a usb drive in their latest updates! They've added options in terminal raspi-config, so projects like this are simpler to set up. Also, with rpi os booting from usb, the sdcard slot becomes an additional external drive for extra coolness. Hope this helps someone
I setup OpenMediaVault with a Rock64 last year. I have four HDDs connected via a powered USB 3.0 hub. Two HDDs are 4TB and two HHDs are 5TB. It also uses an Ethernet connection. I bought the 4GB version of the Rock64 and noticed it only uses less than 10% of the available RAM. I use the NAS to back up my PCs and store video files. I have the NAS in my basement and tend to forget it's there. I mapped the drives on my primary Windows PC. I just did a CrystalDiskMark test and got a Seq read of 100MB/s and a Seq write of 104MB/s.
Sounds like a great setup. :)
Interesting setup :-) which USB hub did you use and which sata-usb adapters?
@@christhompson481 I use a Plugable 7 port powered USB 3.0 hub. The HDDs are were bought as external USB drives such as a Seagate Expansion and a My Book. I bought a generic USB enclosure for another HDD. This USB hub has been doing well, but I have another on a PC that is giving me problems and have plans to replace it. I had the hubs for a few years. Before I installed OMV on the Rock 64, I was using an RPi 2 with samba. I had a power failure and the RPi 2 wouldn't reboot. I decided then to upgrade. The HDDs have been reformatted as Linux drives (ext4?). When I upgraded, I bought a 5TG drive to replace a 2 TB drive. I made the transfers using a Windows/Ubuntu dual boot laptop. I first reformatted the new drive and copied data from an NTFS drive. Reformatted that drive and did another copy, etc. I assumed there was less overhead for Linux formatted drives.
I come to watch this video every while & then. Great educational video.
I took your advice and went for a walk to the park and talk to some ducks, lo and behold I came across a Double Decker Duck :o) Thanks for all your great video's so relaxing and informative. cheers and all the best
:)
2:11 Awwwwww, CUTE , look at that tiny little HDD (Sarcasm 🤣🤣🤣)
EXCELLENT video by the way, but I do however feel that Any RaspPi for running OpenMediaVault is kind of useless due to network read/write speeds and its own internal clock speeds for file sharing etc, however this is Ideal for someone just wanting to setup something that is quick and cheap. Ps. I have also encountered OMV wining about RAM so it may be better to either go for the 2 or 4GB variant (but as you said, for something this cheap to setup, you can't really complain)
Ps. Another VERY easy way to locate your IP of the RaspPi, is to have an android device on the same network with "Fing" installed, and just do a refresh on Fing and presto, no messing about with WinBlows trying to find the IP 👍👍👍
Thanks for the fing tip. I used to use it very regularly. No idea how I forgot about fing XD
I like that. And it's true. "Be patient. Make tea. Or go go for a walk, talk to a duck."
maxium RESPECT ! You are a great tutor/mentor for all of your follwers (too.) i do it since c64, but i always learn something new from You ! GiGA THNX EC Guy !
:)
I normally select your channel rather than others just because of your cool accent!
Keep up with this great work.
Hi. Maybe you can do a new video about setting up a Pi-NAS. This video explains it, but that software is no longer available. That video gets the most hits overall and per month from all your video's so many people are disappointed when they find out that following the video does no longer work. Maybe you can even do a 2 part. Part 1 setting it up the new way and part 2 how to do rights so that the NAS is only visible for me, not for the rest of the users in my network. Others do not need to see my "X" video's. LOL. Maybe compare it with other boards too. My P4 goes only 30 MB/s with that USB 3.
The OMV software is still available, but the install method has changed (see my pinned comment and the video description). But I may indeed do a follow-up video including the new install method. :)
Thank you for another of your verry good videos! I have several requests:
1. Please make a video where you show how to create and configure the NAS software from Raspbian.
2. I have several 3.5 HDDs lying around and I would like to create a NAS solution using at least 4 of them. I would like to put them into a dedicated case (a very cheap one) and connect the raspberry pi 4 to that case to use all of the HDDs. They would draw the power from a plug. Could you create a video for this, in a similar fashion to the one above?
3. Could you connect an external battery to the pi 4 and the battery to the plug? Would this work like a UPS for the raspberry? I would very much enjoy a video testing this idea.
Great production,I am currently in need of another Nas and will be using my Pi very soon,keep up these interesting videos,many thanks,Colin
This video helped me a lot,I was just planning to do that. Thank you Mr. Barnatt for this wonderful material.
I feel the need to talk to a duck. Looking forward to your next video!
Oh,.. by the way ..... you are doing a great job!
Thanks for this tutorial.
I intend to use OMV to backup my data using FreeSileSync. I will install FreeFileSync on my computers and create a batch file (on each computer) that will automatically make a copy of new or edited files on the external drive connected to the RPi.
I did that a while ago with a Raspberry Pi 3B+ and an external *low power* hard disk (powered by the Pi's USB, no external PSU). some Seagate hard drives for laptops work just fine (as long as you're not adding too many USB devices on the Pi). That makes an affordable and very portable NAS.
i'd recommend having OMV reformat the SSD to ext4, NTFS does work under linux (which OMV is) but i have seen some rare problems with NTFS under linux so ext4 is safer
Thanks for this. Many here have suggested that it is the NTFS format that is constraining write speed.
Thank you so much for making this easy for us beginners. I love your videos. Please keep them coming!!
i don't see the raspberry pi iso on the sourceforge site, is it somewhere else? thanks!
I really enjoy your channel, SBCs are simply awesome. Thank you for all the information and ideas.
I use OMV on an xu4 + 1tb ssd, works great with up to 800 mbps transfer speed on a 1 gb network.
It would be ideal imho if the whole system running from an ssd but I did not figure out how to do that yet.
XU4 -- great SBC. :)
talking to two ducks convince me to sub to your channel.
So fallowed this tutorial step by step, which resulted in a very heated political debate with a couple mallards down at the park.
Great video. Thank you.
Any chance will you do a video on FreeNAS? Maybe a non web based solution?
I may well make a FreeNAS video. :)
Loved your video. Thanks for demystifying OpenMediaVault for the rest of us.
This is far nicer then the Samba/SMB NAS functions built into this router, I can tell you that. Getting that to work consistently was... fun.
I met some ducks, thanks for the walkthrough.
Great video and a perfect excuse for me to buy another pi.
Thanks for the quality content videos. Very clear explainatory. I recently bougt a rasberry pi to play and tweak. Though i was wondering if i can do a combo of some projects in just one pi running at the same time.
1- NAS.
2- Pi Hole .
3- Media centre with retro pi and cody.
4- Web server host.
Thanks in advance guys to all this beautiful community.
Potentially, yes, but not using OMV as it is usually configured.
@@ExplainingComputers thank you
Brilliant. Thank you. I have tried and destroyed 3 micro SD trying to install this software and given up. I shall have another go!
Alao i want to pint our that most of the router/switch/ap combo units these days come with a usb3 port that can enable file sharing, good example are cisco broadband modems, all of theme have at least 2 usbs, one for printer sharing and one for file sharing, thus can eliminate the need of many cables and aditional power usgae.
Still this is a cool little project to do in spare time
Most of these also tend to be very very slow. Even on a high-end router don't expect more than 30-40 MB/s, and on many mainstream routers 4-5 MB/s is not uncommon. Which is a bit of a shame considering a router with a single 2.5 inch drive for many could become a simple of not 100 reliable backup solution.
I use an “Icy Dock” for mine, works good. I would suggest a powered USB hub because the Pi’s tend to picky about powering stuff directly, the ICY Dock has its own power supply so it doesn’t matter... and it makes the drives hot swappable, not the it “really” matters... if you really need hot swappable drives, you ain’t looking at a Pi as your NAS...
most routers have USB slots too, where you can plug in a USB thumb drive there. easy to do, no additional software or hardware needed.
You sir are a true living legend. Never has the phrase "Not all heroes wear capes" been more appropriate! Thank you!
I have to mention that when searching for the IP address of the Pi you may need to go a little outside the scope of the suggested parameters. For example my Pi was 192.168.0.103. It caused a little confusion because I was searching in the 192.168.1. ... range.
You can easily find your network devices using the free WiFiman Android / iOS app 😉
Is that hard to enter your router's administration interface and see all the devices in the DHCP server?
Isn't it your router that gave a dhcp ip address?
I think I know what I wish for Christmas (the RPi4 [2GB], a 2TB SSD, a USB 3.0 to SATA Adapter, the Power-Supply and a 16GB Micro-SD Card)
I think Santa can fit all that in his pocket.
Very clear and concise nasberry pi
I seriously donot know whats happening here , but still i am watching.
Glad you are here. :)
To increase write speed on the SSD you should format the SSD with EXT4.
Yes, you are correct. I wish I had thought of this when I made the video!
@@ExplainingComputers Will there be any issues using it with Windows PC when it's formatted as EXT4 instead of NTFS?
@@Pekeliini Windows will be able to write to the drive via the network just fine (as Windows will be unaware of the format of a network drive). But you could not plug the drive directly into Windows and access it.
I think that SMB has to be enabled also in Windows 10.