Problems Arising from Weak or False Hadiths | Dr. Shabir Ally
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- In this video, learn about the impact of forged or weak hadiths. Dr. Shabir Ally explains that many of the controversies about Islam that arise today stem from these hadiths. He offers an example of hadiths which are graded authentic but contradict each other on basic #Islamic practices. He also offers an example of a hadith which is graded authentic but seems to contradict the #Quran. Host Dr. Safiyyah Ally asks Dr. Shabir Ally why scholars didn’t realize these hadiths were problematic, and how to avoid falling into the trap of judging hadiths based on our whims and desires.
This video is part 3 of our series, CAN WE TRUST #HADITH?
Watch our earlier videos in this series:
Part 1: The Anatomy of Hadith: • The Anatomy of Hadiths...
Part 2: The Rise of Hadith Forgery: • The Rise of Hadith For...
Coming up soon! Orientalist and academic critiques of the hadith sciences.
0:00 Some forged or weak hadiths seem harmless
0:42 How scholars have graded hadiths
3:38 Many controversies relating to Islam stem from weak or forged hadiths
5:10 Some hadiths which are graded authentic contradict each other
8:33 Some hadiths which are graded authentic seem to contradict the Quran
10:05 Scholars know that hadith by their very nature are uncertain
13:42 Why scholars didn’t realize these hadiths were problematic
14:51 How to tell if we’re judging hadiths based on our whims and desires
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Salaam. I'm a Jewish convert to Islam from Iranian and Aramaic background. I've been Muslim for 15 years and know if this hadith that says on the day of judgement the bushes and trees will speak and say, there's a Jew behind me, come kill him! This hadith really upsets me. Please explain this hadith, not just for me but also for general Muslims and non Muslims and people who follow this hadith literally. JZK
@@MrYusha i think its not in the day of judgement... its in the end of time, there will be war between M and J, and at that time the trees and stones helping M by telling where the J are hiding... thats what i know if its interpreted literally
@@thegadflyofathenssocrates658 yes, sorry. The day of judgement, ur right. That's what I heard. But why would Muslims and Jews be at war? The treaty and constitution on Medina that says that the Muslims, Jews and Christians are one. But a couple of Jewish tribes turned on the Prophet Muhammad saws. This isn't consistent with the quran and seerah
Dear Brother @@MrYusha
The Hadith is speaking about the last days in the end of time before the day of jugements that they will be a war beetwen muslims and jews and that the jews and therefore the trees will speak to help muslims
What you have to know Brother that the muslims will not fight jeews because they believe in what they believe no because the Quran and the prophets tell us to be kind to peoples and accept they believe and speak to them kindly and this is are from the Quran but we have to kill those who want o fight and those who are agressors :
{Fight in the cause of Allah ˹only˺ against those who wage war against you, but do not exceed the limits.1 Allah does not like transgressors.}[Chapter 2 verse 190]
Therefor the war will be beetwen them therefore the muslims will fight and the trees will help those who have rights
I hope you have understand
🙏❤
@@MrYusha have u heard islamic escatology? There are some theories bout that, and all agree that it will happen.. its talking about the sign of the end time and anything about that including al mahdi, dajjal etc... if u havent heard may be u should start
I have listened to all videos about hadiths and Im so blown away. All questions that I had all these years I finally understand the hadith concept. I really appreciate you explaining. You got me more interested in listening to the gut and use my logic when It comes to some things that are controversial. You got me interested in searching for more answeres rather than not to. We all should take our responsablities.
Keep speaking up Dr Shabbir! Masalaama!
I had the exact same feeling 😊 all these questions I had and all the bad for feelings about some hadiths and so fourth just got
Proved by all these videos explaining it so well.
Support from Egypt. You're really doing great for the cause of Islam, way to go to show Islam as a rational logical religion. And I believe Islam is full of capabilities to be as rational and peaceful as it gets.
They make fitna also. Just like what they did with evolution and Homosexuality/LGBTQ which are against Islam
@@bryanbradley6871 no one said lgbtq is halal. Evolution is another entire debate. Muslims are already in greater fitnah. Evolution won't stop islam. Didn't stop any religion so far..
@@worlddj1364 According to other Islamic sources, this channel is Haram and should be shut down.
@@bryanbradley6871 good
@@bryanbradley6871 Go watch other Islamic sources then!
i hope this is becoming mainstream. It calls for young generations to keep actively learning about hadith while sticking to the divine revelation.
The hadith are false scriptures, it baffles me that only a small number of people realize it
Quran is word of Allah. You have doubts?
People use Hadith to oppress people, their own children, it’s so severe that I feel fear just to learn about Islam after this abuse. Watching your videos never makes me feel a sick sinking feeling in my stomach. Thank you so much! You make me feel the love of Allah and not ill like some people do.
Tough questioning from Sophia. Love the show!
Jazakallah sheikh, one of the few sheikhs who simply say it how it is
Is Hadith 16245 true or false
@@mdtahasinahmed5319 nope, the Hadith is inauthentic according to some scholars of the past
@@Hamza00011 That means it is false.
Thank you.
May Allah bless you.
Allah saved my iman through you
@@mdtahasinahmed5319 brother, any questions im here. These islamaphobes spew in their videos inauthentic hadeeth. There is an answer for ALL of this, thid is the religion of God
@@Hamza00011 Thank you.
May Allah bless you
Thank you so much for giving me a broader insight!
This is just too good... Cant wait fo rnext episode.
Love the SERIES. Looking forward to see this kinda series in the future as well.
Love the Showwwwwwwwwwwww.
Good mature and reasonable approach.
This conversation is so important. Thank you.
Keep up the good work dr shabir uncle🤗....lots of love and respect
Ma shà Allah, great explanation and that itself makes sense, even a muslim with no special knowledge of authenticity of Ahadith is left wondering on many occassions that " it must have been said by the Prophet Muhammad PBUH in a different context". JazakAllah for your great work let the Quran speak, much needed for the muslims in this day and age
Is Hadith 16245 true or false
As far the prophet ordering someone to do something. The Quran says that he has no right to make laws. Allah subhanahu wataala is the only One Who legislate laws. The prophet had no right to add to or subtract anything from the Quran. These hadiths and so-called scholars have caused the Muslim world to abandon the Quran and deviate from Islam. They are responsible for all of the ignorance, superstitions, backwardness, women's devaluation and oppression, division and bloodshed that exists in among Muslims. It's a tradgedy that we have abandoned the Quran and have taken our so-called scholars, imams, muftis, mullahs, maualanas and sheikhs to be lords besides God. This is one major reason why we Muslims have been humiliated.
Our only hope is for us to repent and every Muslim to read, study, learn, understand and follow the Quran ourselves. We must read the Quran for the purpose of searching for guidance as it was intended for. Following the Quran is our solution. The days of the scholars and imams misleading people are over.
It is a great tragedy for our religion. The Christian's tragedy was the trinity, Islam's tragedy are the hadiths :(
Finally someone found who is thinking same like me
True
Around 11:30 is an absolutely vital criteria for the evaluation that is often overlooked, particularly by wahabists or those who follow wahabist teaching or practice.
And 15:00 also. Powerful, important stuff. Beware of "mainstream" scholars who promote anything that deviates from the primacy of the Quran in Islam.
Assalamu'alaikum. Apart from the informative content, it is your character that I like, both of you. After all, when we return to Allah, it is our character that will be judged, not our knowledge. Keep on the good work.
He’s probably the most logical religious figure I’ve ever seen
Always so informative and relevant.
Maa shà Allah. Very well said
As a quran only Muslim i respect dr shabir ally one of the best traditional scholers
As a convert, I am so disgusted by some of these hadith and sunnies want me to wager my soul on them? This makes no sense to me. Today I read one in bukhari where the prophet tells Umar that there are 7 versions of the Quran! What??? I'm so confused. I need something simple, I am a simple man! This is part of what attracted me to Islam in the first place.
Bro just read the Quran and follow it. No need to get into these hadith they only make Islam complex only introduce superstitions and violence and it is an insult to attribute them to the prophet Muhammad pbuh. There are some very nice hadith as well no doubt you can follow them if you want. And I suggest that you still pray by following hadith but other than that you have to follow only the Quran
There are seven versions of the quran, that's true. Google the 7 ahruf.
Talk to me - the love of God for sinners is the simplest thing. Meanwhile the Allah of Islam has no love, and even the best Muslim is just a slave of Allah.
I pray that you can escape from this trap and find your way to God.
@Dagfari I appreciate the response. This is quite an old comment. I assume you are a Christian. It's the same God as far as I'm concerned. Just Christians turned Jesus (a great prophet) into a God, or a son of God, or a partner with God or whatever. I follow the God of Jesus and Muhammed, but can't deal with idolizing either one.
The Scholars off course knew about these weak or false hadiths but they never disclosed it to common muslims.
Now a days, the scholars living in the western world are disclosing and doing critical analysis of these hadiths and its very hard for common muslims to digest this kind of discourse. So these western independant scholars thrashed by the scholarly community and youtubers.
They will announces their faith as Zindiq, kafir, Murtad and etc, etc.
problematic hadiths ? for example ?
@@hadooken1194 sorry its weak or false hadith.. not problamatic
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Great discussion! Enjoying so much.
One request please Don't interrupt Dr. Shabir, let him finish what he is saying, we have too much to hear
Hadiths are innovations period , same as Luke , Paul, Mark and Matthew
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Soon the world will know The Truth about Rassoelloellaah ❤❤❤
Soon the manmade ahadith followers will know they are mouchrekeen.
The misunderstood The Qoraan The Perfect Word of Allaah ❤❤❤The Most Just.
Allaah ❤❤❤The Almighty Will INTERVENE.
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I like dr. Shabir he is so humble person .. I remember when he said if god die who run the world? 😄😄 that's never get old
I watched that video in 2014😅😅🤣 the crowd went crazy laugh on that day😅😅
@Wilma Tejano
Does a person’s soul/spirit cease to exist when they die? Isn’t the Islamic belief that our souls are conscious before we were born and after we die?
The Second Person of the Trinity, who is spirit, took on human nature, being born in the likeness of men. This person was given the name Jesus (God is Salvation) by his earthly parents. He is one person with two natures (a human which he got from his mother, and a divine nature from the Spirit of God. The natures do not mix!). You and I are persons with one nature (human).
So when Jesus died, as men naturally do, the Second Person of the Trinity did not suddenly cease to exist because He is from of old.
After Jesus’ death, his spirit left his body but the spirit did not die. This spirit was uncreated and exists from everlasting to everlasting. This spirit returned to Jesus’ body after 3 days and raised him from the dead.
Jesus took on human nature because he loves us and he died to achieve for us humans the salvation of our souls.
Now, we understand that you do not believe the doctrine of the Incarnation or in the vicarious suffering of Jesus Christ, to refute a Christian doctrine, you have to engage with Christian theology. Asking glib and gotcha questions is not best to examine the Christian faith. Rather a sincere attempt must be made to understand the tradition. I am sure you would expect the same from a person looking into Islam.
For God is my King from of old, Working salvation in the midst of the earth. - Psalms 74:12
@@tictac7359 trinity is not worshipping oneness of God the one and only means no other beside him he is one and only to worship . because there is son and holy spirit that's why not one but 3
@@Moralman1961 if a person say something about Islam that Muslims do not like they want to react.....
@Willy Friedlander isnt the father who created all things through his word is he not trancendant, you have to be trancendant to create things otherwise you become apart of the creation you are so uneducated its funny lol
Yes. There are some hadiths that no one can imagine that a great Massenger can say. And I don't think that it would make you less Muslim not to believe in them. The problem is that some schools prevent you even from thinking about it. For example Hadith concerning music!!
I wish more and more muslims learn and at least know about what the difference between sunnah of the prophet and hadiths i.e reports of that sunnah. Thank you Shaikh Dr Shabir Ally
May Allah give us the strength to see this Ramadan
Dhoni vs Katai - How exactly are these terminologies spelled if written in English? I'm unable to find any content on this when I Google it.
حديث ظني وحديث قطعي
Hadith dhanni (a dalala) and Hadith qat3i.
Meaning the claim for authenticity (proof of) is conjectural (dhanniy) or acknowledged.
I have a question there are sunnahs after prophet Muhammad ( pbh) died but the sunnahs are about how prophet Muhammad ( pbh) live so are the sunnahs after he’s death trust worthy ? I don’t want to pick and choose which sunnah to follow but I just wonder if I’m allowed to only follow the sunnahs that wear in the time prophet Muhammad (pbh) lived
Same question
Which Sahih hadiths have different Iqamas? This is the first time I heard of this.
Sofia is such a beautiful and lovely lady! Good video 📸
Assalamu Alaikkum. Dr. these problematic hadith's making differences between Muslims themselves. I have encountered across many of my Muslim friends who differ from some practices. If Scholars know that this hadith is weak or false, then why they want to keep it in the book. Why not they publish only those authentic hadith they consider highly reliable ?. Also Dr. Zakir Naik said that there is a work is going to compile all the main hadith books into a single book but not sure still they include those weak hadiths.
Allah knows your heart shabir ally.
Is Hadith 16245 true or false
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@@jackdrayton8291 ان شاء الله
I have a question for Dr. Shabir, please answer me.
I am not talking about this particular hadith but as a general idea.
What I understood is that you think that the hadith 13:45 which we consider authentic is in fact weak and the reason why scholars did not pay attention to this was that it was consistent with the general outlook of their time.
But in our time, that view has changed, so we note that this hadith is in fact weak.
My question is to Dr. Shabir, who can guarantee you that there will not come a time in the future that they think, according to their society and what they are familiar with, that this Hadith is OK, will it become authentic then !! ??
Doctor, don't you think this is a wrong way of thinking?
Don't you think that this is compliments, an attempt to please and make concessions to society at the expense of Allah's religion !?
Allah said:
It is not for a believing man or a believing woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decided a matter, that they should [thereafter] have any choice about their affair. And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger has certainly strayed into clear error.
Quran (33:36)
In addition to what Allah said in this verse, do you not trust Allah?
Another point, you generalized and said that the hadiths is Dhani !!!
Don't you think there is a contradiction? You mentioned the mutawater hadiths, is it also Dhani?
Even if it is my Dhani, does this mean that we leave it?
What about the Qur’an some verses are "Dhani Dalala", so should we leave this verses as well?
You should ask that question on there website
A hadiths authenticity is not based on wether its relevant for the time we are in or what norms we follow. Hadiths are going through a thorrow analysis to count links and to see if the words change throughout the time this hadith has been used.
Dont quote me on this cus i might remember wrong but i think i remember that a hadith needs at least 30% to be authentic. Anything else is concidered weak. I will of course check so im sure of what i said is correct but this is how i remember it.
Allah also told us that only his words are true and we are not allowed to intentionally fabricate hadiths or change the words of Allah.
Hadith is ridiculous hearsay and is unfortunately used as a means to create laws in Islam. Allah says in Qur'an that He is the only judge and lawmaker.
That presents an irreconcilable contradiction and I pray that Allah brings us all back to Qur'an alone.
Dr. Shabir, when will you acknowledge this?
Peace
Agree one hundred percent but unfortunately Allah says the majority have gone stray
There seems to be something of a contradiction here. If Muslims can forget the exact words or lines of the daily prayer, how did all those transmitters in the isnad manage to pass on each hadith through numerous generations without changing a single word. Did they have written versions to aid their collective memory or was it strictly oral tradition? Can you give me one example of a known line of transmitters in which each one handed down a hadith word for word? Which hadith is it? Also I would like to know what has this complicated line of transmission of Hadith got to do with the claim that the Qur'an itself is perfectly preserved. If that is true, then why the need for Hadiths in the first place. The late date of the Hadiths is also a problem isn't it?
It’s not something of a contradiction. It is a contradiction.
That people "forgot" the number of times a call to prayer is repeated is a hypothesis that Dr. Shabir puts forth, based on the fact that people today would object it.
The argument that others would put forth regarding these differing hadiths with authentic chains, is that during the time of the Prophet (sall.), he was the one who is to teach and object. It is known that he taught the second call to prayer - once with 11 lines in Medina and once with 17 lines in Makkah (after conquest) , the latter has more lines basically due to repetition.
Regarding other variations in the call, it is also possible that if the caller repeats more number of times than he should, and the Prophet (sall.) did not object, people would refrain from objecting too. And people who transmit such variations form a hadith. In this case, we would choose the hadith of the companion to whom we attribute more knowledge in Islam without denying the variant hadiths.
The notion that for many acts of worship the Prophet (sall.) taught/permitted slight variations here and there exists from his time.
It didn’t pass first generations they didn’t consider Hadiths mandatory to follow they new a lot of them were false so took Hadiths who are compatible contextual interpretation of the Quran or who are common sense because Hadiths provided more literature it was much later people started claiming there were authentic Hadiths.
May Allah help you Dr Shabir..
So when Sharia bases it's rulings on these hadith, what are we to presume? Are they valid or not?
@mRpapa stalin That Quran verse has been abrogated according to most fiqhs.
What Fiqh do you follow?
Shariah is the path to interpret God’s word that’s why firs 700 years of Islamic movement it was interpreted time and place it was rise of the Ottoman Empire people of Hadith became mainstream
Even the Hadith about dogs
Why is it that a dog is demonized by a hadith yet Allah holds it in high regards in surat Al-khahf???!!!!
The adhan example was not that good. You can reconcile the contradictory authentic hadith.... By saying both were done but at different times. Meaning both ways are acceptable.
It is the irreconcilable "authentic" hadith that are problematic.
If that is the case, the change in wording of adhan must be a huge event, and that must also be mentioned in hadith in clear words, that at certain time, we used to hear adhan with this wording and then the prophet changed it.
*What Allah (SWT) meant by 2nd Surah in The Qur'an Kerim as Dr. Shabir pointed is, that Allah (SWT) knew that husband will abuse his wife so He has given the Degree of Responsibility more than a woman, Responsibility towards Allah (SWT) which we can see during Ikamah recitation for example and in Religious rituals and to the Wife herself.*
*If you read The Qur'an Kerim, you'll notice that Allah (SWT) favours women slightly over men if you think deep enough and when you compare it non Muslim laws and values.*
*Selam Alejkum,*
If Dr. Shabbir would have given the references for the contradictory hadiths reporting the number of repetitions in the adhan then the entire video would carry more weight and people wouldn't think that Dr. Shabbir is pulling a fast one. Please edit the video and show us the references this would enable people to refer back and take a balanced approach towards hadiths instead of the usual blind fanatic approach.
Study fiqh and usul from different classical schools of islamic jurisprudence to understand how they grade the hadith.
Is it not possible that there was flexibility in the call to prayer and the number of times a line is repeated during the Prophet’s lifetime?
Is so nice when they placed bible scriptures in the muslim beliefs
If your explaination is Somebody could forget then it brings into question the entire memorising spiel that you guys play.
Nice Dr Ally, tell them Bukhari worshippers off!
الله اکبر
Allahu Akbar!!
This is ok ok but the question of what fits the current world ideas is not considered w.r.t Quran... like in the outlook towards gays... in those cases Quran is deemed correct...
Why can't then we do same w.r.t prophets word as well?
Bro, sex between two unmarried persons is prohibited in Islam, be it gays or straight. In modern world, even if this thing is allowed or normalized, we as muslims, are not supposed to go outside the bounds of Islam. but in any case, that restriction is coming from within, not that anyone is physically forcing us for these restrictions.
So, yes, one may have extreme urge for rape [as you can find videos, even on youtube where rape is glamorized ], one may have extreme urge for child molestation, one may have extreme urge for money [may lead to thefts or robbary ], one may have extreme urge for every single thing in this world..... The Islamic position is this... God created you and God put those urges in you to test you whether you follow his given commandments or not. In Islam, you are not condemned for having these urges, you are condemned when you actually act upon those urges and especially when you do it without any shame...
@@omerali2690 I am not talking about rape or molestation.... same sex marriage is allowed or not in Islam?
@@thesarasohrabi no it's not allowed , sorry gays 😭
@@saimtanweer5720 Doesn't matter to me... But when the prophet says something that goes against current norms why do we immediately declare there is problem with the chain of narrations? Why don't you guys favor the prophet in such cases?
Sure, some hadiths that are beneficial to humankind or earth should be implemented as a choice. But to say that hadith is a divine revelation from God is equivalent to ascribing another source of diving law to the God’s actual revelation- The Quran.
Sometimes, it is a matter of context, when a text is cut or taken out of a context looks completely incorrect. The beauty in the science of hadith is that the early scholars did not interfere in the meaning of the text. Moreover, the early scholars did not have the full opportunity to compare texts and studies, as they did not have a fax, mail, or Internet. So today we have a raw and virgin text. Therefore, today we can continue our investigation and comparison studies and make use of computer and communication technologies
We will makeup some sayings and depending upon the situation we'll classify which one's authentic or inauthentic. Islam in a nutshell
No it’s not those who wanted power are religion is about interpretation
Scholars decide
Honestly, while I try my best to not be egotistic and appreciate the higher learning of many scholars, I find it hard not to instantly dismiss anyone that accepts that supposed story of the prophet Muhammad saw, not only is the issue about the extreme dynamic that that prophet saw supposedly suggests between the husband and wife, but the language itself, it's not longer about sexism or equality, it's the same language those who encourage shirk use, the way of talking of the munafaqeen, to attribute such a statement to the prophet saw is an insult to him, the Quran and the religion as a whole.
How am I supposed to trust all these very convincing sahih processes when they accept something so ridiculous?
I'm not saying I use it as an excuse to decry all the hadith and the scholars, far from it, but the same way salafists confidently say that the shia branch was corrupted even from the time of hijra, it makes it seem quite evident that a part of the sunni teachings were corrupted very early on.
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I like Shabir Ally , he makes some great points; but it is obvious his is not an expert at Hadith sciences. There are several acceptable ways of calling the Adhan. The fajr Adhan is distinct from the one for others, that is known. Also the Iqamaah is shorter, pronounced quickly
May Allah reward him but remember some of these sciences are very complex and require thorough technical knowledge .
Calling Hadith science a science is an insult to science.
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He is
Is it allowed to hosting a women like this?
majority of the Prophet Ahadiths are اخبار احاد , transferred by only single man , therefore early Scholars of ISLAM declared that only faith عقيدة can be created / established , on those Ahadiths but no law can be created or established at all # there is one issue one Sahabi ( companion of Prophet ) said to Adullah bin Omar U Father ( Omar bin Khattab ) had restricted women to reach to mosque for night prayer # Abdullah bin Omar said i am telling U that Prophet had allowed women to reach mosque for night prayer & U are saying Omar bin Khattab had restricted ???? who should be obeyed ???? # now issue is there is another Hadith which says عليكم بسنة و سنة الخلفا # this Hadith should be fully rejected # 2nd issue Quran says وامرهم شورى بينهم " their ( Muslims govt ) decisions should be based on house members or representatives or members of executive committee # but when dispute with 3rd Caliph ( Osman bin Affan ) arised & rebellion against Osman bin Affan began there was no شورى at all nor the rebellion & political crisis was resolved by any شورى at all #
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That's done by CZcams I think
How can people still believe in this religion
The debate is about going back to Quran as the Prime source of Islamic faith and teachings...
Hadiths are peoples statements which may correct or partially incorrect, misunderstood or forged..
"Whoso is an enemy to God or his angels or to Gabriel or to Michael shall have God for his enemy, for verily God is an enemy to infidels"
My question is - What kind of God would create some people Muslims and some infidels? God created only humans.
Why would a God make infidels his enemy? God will never make his creation enemy to him. He is compassionate. Is this not God's discrimination against humans.
What if the Bible had books to correct the bible???? Hmmm so the quaran has this book to correct it oh ok
Dr Shabir Ally says that they do not prostrate to any but allah. Why then do the angels prostrate to Adam by the order of allah. This is allah preforming Shirk by having his angels prostrate to other than him. You can also look at it in another way. The act of prostration by the angels to other than allah causes them to perform Shirk. This is the unforgivable sin according to allah.
Watch Dr Jaffray Lang lecture "purpose of life " on CZcams...
Hadiths always prohibit the good things in the world.
Oh” what a confused religion. May God help this confused people.
How about those whose god was humiliated by the humans he created. Tortured and nailed to the cross. Weeping for what was done to him from these poop filled humans. But he did all that so that he could save them. At the same leaving the rest of the deprived of a God. Maybe Satan took control of those areas while God was being punished.
@@cameo777 remember false prophet Mohammad was killed by a woman, and your useless allah could not save him, even when allah was praying for him. Oh”, what a helpless allah.
@@stephenanayochukwu6647 ignoramus. I'm glad you didn't deny anything I said about your weeping God.
@@cameo777 l am also glad that you didn’t refute all I said about your false prophet Muhammad and your idol called allah.
@Alpha Dog meaning what ?
The most confusing quran 2 55
In my opinion weeeeeak
And no true
Listen to Christopher Hitchens. All religions are....
Any sensible Muslim now needs to reject Islam straightway after listening to all this endless rubbish contradictions Islam has brought to the brain.
Those who have no brain they have rejected the truth and on the highway to hell and islam is the truth education is made mandatory to understand it has been magnificently going on one who feel hard to understan can approach schalors for clarification it is a challenge which religion is not having confusions
Well, no wonder qur'anists are on the rise. They have known this way before normal muslims. And there are also some scholars who doubt even the existence of Muhammad!
Name me the scholars who doubt the existence of Prophet Muhammad s.a.w😏
@@surewin3307 I'll do better. I'd link you an academic site. You can directly read research papers from the few scholars on the subject of "Islamic origins" and "historicity of muhammad". Will link the website in my next comment.
Dr. Shabir ally where is your Taqiyah lol 😂. You were looking cool with Taqiyah.
So much equivocation. So much obfuscation.
What is Taqiyah
You mean kafiyyah?.
You mean kafiyyah?.
Yawn 😴
I respectfully must disagree with Dr. Ally. In almost the same breath he contradicts himself. He claims no hadiths justify what Muslim youths are doing in killing non-Muslim civilians then states they will find some of their justification in some hadiths which have some questions about them. First of all, Dr. Ally must admit that it is not just Muslim youths killing no-Mulsim civilians. He must also admit that Muslims do not have to refer to hadiths to justify the killing of non-Muslim civilians as the Quran gives adequate justification for the same. Sura 47:1-12 is a prime example of the Quran giving license for Muslim believers to strike the necks(behead)of disbelievers. Sura 5:33 " Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and his messenger and strive upon earth to cause corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land." Muslim "scholars" such as Dr. Ally will claim that these types of verse only applies to conditions of war. Unfortunately for the unbelievers(kafirs), a Muslims interpretation of war can mean the simple fact that you are a disbeliever and or you are causing mischief in the land. Sura 3:118 "O you who have believed, do not take as intimates those other than yourselves, for they will not spare you any ruin. They wish you would have hardship. Hatred has already appeared from their mouths, and what their breasts conceal is greater. We have certainly made clear to you the signs if you will use reason." These along with many other suras give clear justification for Muslims to subjugate, kill or expel non-Muslim civilians (Kafirs) from any and all lands. Question....why are there any false suras found in today's literature? If these suras were deemed false, why were they not destroyed, burned, or thrown into the Nile River like earlier Qurans and manuscripts?
I respectfuly must say to you that we dont owe you an explanation. You dont want to beleive in the quran, then dont.
You are funny yip man
@@ibrahim187 Such a telling response! Incredibly arrogant and poor!
@@delpthepath127 The guy is just here to twist verses out of their meaning while playing polite, he dont really want an explanation since his mind is already fixed. So its simple, you dont like what is in the quran, then dont be muslims. Nothing arrogant here. You are free to reject the message. If he would just read the WHOLE book without only twisting verses out of their meaning and context, then he wont need for us to answer his questions.
@@ibrahim187 Well, just because you give an explanation it doesn’t mean that it must make sense to him. But if you frame such explanation as your belief, not necessarily something objective, then it makes sense to let it be. But I suspect that you fancy your explanation as absolute and objective, invariable conclusions that any other sensible person would arrive to if presented with the same documents. But anyhow, how do you explain those verses?
Only thing weak is Shabir allys iman
Christ jesus is your God and mine
There is no need for a prophet after Jesus the son of God only apostles
I don't know muhammad or Allah I wish not to for muhammad said he was victorious by the sword.
Thanks.
It's scary that the sahaba the greatest of men who ever followed the greatest dean couldn't document the greatest compulsory deed that was taught to them
I mean I expected line by line documentation with diagrams
This says to me that the Sahabas were not really men of good sense and without the prophet as a uma they didnt not have alot of control because they split up right after his death and friend and family fought
That is very shady