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  • @haziqtheunique
    @haziqtheunique Před 28 dny +1141

    Adding smart features to objects that don't need em is the most "Damn, who asked?" thing about modern times.

    • @mybedroomtv
      @mybedroomtv Před 28 dny +51

      its the new way to get people to upgrade appliances because they think its better. once you replace a built to last for life appliance with a built to break in 5-10 your in the customer/repair database for life.

    • @Suzuki_Hiakura
      @Suzuki_Hiakura Před 28 dny +16

      I remember we used to make jokes about this when I was a kid... figured it would be mostly pointless to make your home smart.

    • @GHOSTSTARSCREAM
      @GHOSTSTARSCREAM Před 28 dny +8

      The one thing I've always said and I will keep on continue to say it: Things that aren't originally "smartified" in some way, shape, or form should never and I mean NEVER should be turned into a "smart device".

    • @GHOSTSTARSCREAM
      @GHOSTSTARSCREAM Před 28 dny +17

      @@Suzuki_Hiakura I mean, tbf. It is mostly pointless to make your home "smart". The "smarthome" industry is such a cluster fk of a mess that it's not even funny, nor sad. It's just infuriating, even as an outsider.

    • @_Vengeance_
      @_Vengeance_ Před 28 dny +10

      Especially when those devices lack an on/off button. Even if it is something you may want to control remotely, why tf would you remove the on/off button??? "Oh boy, I sure love having to fish out my smartphone and take the time to navigate it when I want to turn this device on when I'm right next to it!" says nobody.

  • @ThechronocrosserII
    @ThechronocrosserII Před 28 dny +1001

    "You see my neighbor in the shower right now? Watch this, ima make him scream"

    • @666Necropsy
      @666Necropsy Před 28 dny

      watching men in the shower huh? gayyyy

    • @joejane9977
      @joejane9977 Před 28 dny +43

      i feel the same way about autopay permission to empty my bank account

    • @alecmackintosh2734
      @alecmackintosh2734 Před 28 dny +47

      I can just imagine bart simpson doing this

    • @SC-RGX7
      @SC-RGX7 Před 28 dny +17

      Classic party trick.

    • @4272005
      @4272005 Před 28 dny

      Roast that mutha :-)

  • @dahlia695
    @dahlia695 Před 28 dny +794

    "snif..snif.. you could use a shower"
    "I can't, my internet went down"

    • @johnwenzel2003
      @johnwenzel2003 Před 28 dny +20

      You beat me to it . 😊

    • @RSainman
      @RSainman Před 28 dny +5

      😂 😂

    • @Billy-burner
      @Billy-burner Před 28 dny +2

      Human scents aren't a bad thing.

    • @H-Banri
      @H-Banri Před 28 dny +5

      @@Billy-burner They are.

    • @jordannunyabiz9159
      @jordannunyabiz9159 Před 27 dny +7

      ​@@Billy-burneryou basically just said body odor is fine. Do you even shower? 💀

  • @chunkyd5880
    @chunkyd5880 Před 28 dny +920

    90% of wifi/IoT devices absolutely do not need to be "smart".

    • @pumkin610
      @pumkin610 Před 28 dny +56

      There should be a new word for it other than smart like "remotely controlled"

    • @NickDrinksWater
      @NickDrinksWater Před 28 dny +16

      Its not about that, its about them invading our privacy

    • @greg6500
      @greg6500 Před 28 dny

      How else will Bulgarian human traffickers find out your day to day habits?

    • @commieSlayer69
      @commieSlayer69 Před 28 dny

      It's ok as long as it's not connecting to a remote server

    • @loopernagic4658
      @loopernagic4658 Před 28 dny +33

      More like 99% because PC is the only device on your home that necessarily need an internet connection.

  • @UlyssesK402
    @UlyssesK402 Před 28 dny +319

    "Nobody's going to hack it because it's just a water heater" is exactly the mentality that hackers will notice and *exploit.*

    • @XenoSpyro
      @XenoSpyro Před 28 dny +24

      The universal response you should give to people that say things like that is "How do you know?"

    • @Demopans5990
      @Demopans5990 Před 28 dny +32

      I mean, a casino got hacked through their thermostat. Just some random dude with an android phone, looking like he's just there for some small time fun

    • @mammutMK2
      @mammutMK2 Před 27 dny +21

      Same happened with hospitals...they never needed security because the data was Worth nothing for anyone that wanted to sell it or abuse it, and then ransomware came in up that locked half of their diagnostic machinery... suddenly they panicked

    • @UlyssesK402
      @UlyssesK402 Před 27 dny +4

      @@mammutMK2 There's never only one thing to worry about.

    • @improvisedchaos8904
      @improvisedchaos8904 Před 26 dny +5

      *attempts to reverse engineer glade fresheners into listening devices*

  • @battlecruiserna
    @battlecruiserna Před 28 dny +402

    just wait until hot water is a subscription service

    • @Finalizor
      @Finalizor Před 28 dny +102

      Water itself is technically a subscription service because you have to pay for it monthly

    • @battlecruiserna
      @battlecruiserna Před 28 dny +74

      @@Finalizor a subscription service for your subscription service

    • @PhilipMarcYT
      @PhilipMarcYT Před 28 dny

      ​@@Finalizorexactly

    • @Finalizor
      @Finalizor Před 28 dny +8

      @@battlecruiserna lol it always has been that way

    • @battlecruiserna
      @battlecruiserna Před 28 dny

      @@Finalizor i dont actually pay for my water because i get my water from a well. I forget that some cucks actually have to pay for it.

  • @aluisious
    @aluisious Před 28 dny +672

    If you buy a WiFi water heater we can’t be friends.

    • @coolfuze
      @coolfuze Před 28 dny +15

      Weird how everyone you know owns a WiFi water heater.

    • @1988nProud
      @1988nProud Před 28 dny +10

      Can i make this into a t-shirt?!!!!!!

    • @Cstegg
      @Cstegg Před 28 dny +2

      I have one that is locally connected into my own smart home ecosystem.
      It's nice that it turns off when I'm not in town based on my GPS location.
      I even have an automation that turns on my car heater, or air conditioner once the hot water level drops below 80% between 6-9am on weekdays.
      Then when family comes over I can switch it into high demand mode.

    • @1988nProud
      @1988nProud Před 28 dny +5

      ​@@Cstegghere in the east we use the sun 😂 free of charge 365 regardless of our gps

    • @SvendleBerries
      @SvendleBerries Před 28 dny +27

      @@Cstegg
      - *"It's nice that it turns off when I'm not in town based on my GPS location."*
      You need an app for that? I just turn mine off with my finger lol

  • @RobinhooodGFX
    @RobinhooodGFX Před 28 dny +316

    i just wanted to buy a Nintendo Gamecube for less than $80 so i bought a broken one for $40 after watching Ross’ older repair videos.
    A microscope, a hot air station, and soldering station, and DIY fumigator, and a multimeter later and my room is filled with 20 broken gamecubes in the fix queue 🤷
    i am obsessed, thanks Ross

    • @michaelcorcoran8768
      @michaelcorcoran8768 Před 28 dny +17

      Another option is to get a Nintendo Wii which also plays GameCube games. I've been using it to play MVP baseball 2005, offline single player all day

    • @ghostoflazlo
      @ghostoflazlo Před 28 dny +4

      That's so cool to hear! Happy you got the console you wanted and lifelong gratification knowing you fixed it yourself

    • @celeriumlerium8266
      @celeriumlerium8266 Před 28 dny +7

      I hope the DIY fumigator is decent, aside from health issues the smell of burnt old electronics can stay in your nose for days.

    • @massgrave8x
      @massgrave8x Před 28 dny +9

      dolphin is free but I respect the hustle

    • @bladeoflucatiel
      @bladeoflucatiel Před 28 dny +9

      Fix controllers and you will make a fortune.

  • @paulthetexan
    @paulthetexan Před 28 dny +150

    I hated HOAs so much that I moved to the middle of the woods where there aren't even building permits.

    • @HeWhoIsWhoHeIs
      @HeWhoIsWhoHeIs Před 28 dny +20

      Yep. I will NEVER live in an HOA. Ever. I'll live in a tent first.

    • @badnipple
      @badnipple Před 28 dny

      can i come too lol

    • @volkswagenginetta
      @volkswagenginetta Před 28 dny +9

      No building permits sounds like Atlantis. A utopia that doesn't exist.

    • @janetmacdonald2823
      @janetmacdonald2823 Před 28 dny +13

      Unrestricted property outside town. I own some, it's a thing. Texas, but varies between states. Look out for city creeping out to annex. Good local real estate agent or attorney, at least a consultation.

    • @theodorgiosan2570
      @theodorgiosan2570 Před 28 dny +14

      I moved to the middle of an industrial area where there are only 3 houses and they predate the town by about 50 years or more. There are building permits but no electrical or plumbing permits/inspection. And because I'm in an industrial area, I can use power tools whenever or as much as I want even in the middle of the night and nobody will complain.

  • @Koen75NL
    @Koen75NL Před 28 dny +28

    "How do you know I had a late breakfast?" "Your toaster tweeted about it."

  • @stardustgirl313
    @stardustgirl313 Před 28 dny +34

    I love all my “dumb” devices, especially the mechanical ones that can be fixed with simple parts vs the two that require replacement “assemblies” when their electronic parts die.

    • @robertsmith2956
      @robertsmith2956 Před 28 dny +2

      i was forced to buy one of those. I hooked a scope to every sensor and monitored the dishwasher. board ever dies, it gets an arduino to fix it. If a button dies, I'll add an IC2 connection so I can send a button was pushed signal.
      They need to make devices fiber so I don't broadcast any EMF noise as well.

    • @ambiarock590
      @ambiarock590 Před 28 dny +2

      This is why I love my iPods. No smart tech in them at all, no wifi connection; all within my control. I own them, not the other way around

    • @lonniemcclure4538
      @lonniemcclure4538 Před 28 dny

      @@ambiarock590 - Most smart devices don't require a WiFi or internet connection to operate. When my mother needed a bigger TV because her eyesight was getting worse, getting a non-smart TV was nigh impossible (and would have cost more if I could have found one). The Roku TV I purchased for her worked fine without internet. Even the smart plugs I have, they have a manual button that can be used to turn them on/off.

  • @DougguoD
    @DougguoD Před 28 dny +79

    4:37 "my water heater runs on propane not wifi" 😄👏🏻

  • @timetraveler0002
    @timetraveler0002 Před 28 dny +70

    the internet of things was definitely thought up by a supervillain

    • @djangosouthwest6043
      @djangosouthwest6043 Před 28 dny +5

      Right imagine taking a shower and the water heater goes beyond boiling point 💀

    • @yosefmacgruber1920
      @yosefmacgruber1920 Před 2 dny

      @@djangosouthwest6043
      That was a scene in the decades-old horror movie entitled _Pulse._ Not the newer one that has nothing to do with it, but the older movie in which electricity was behaving like some villain looking to harm people. Of course those old retro water heaters likely were not even capable of heating that fast, having a big tank of water, but why let that stand in the way of scary scenes in a horror movie?
      Maybe the more likely scenario is that you can't get your water above luke-warm due to the latest enviro-wacko "climate emergency" BS.

    • @djangosouthwest6043
      @djangosouthwest6043 Před 2 dny

      @@yosefmacgruber1920 yeah I was just thinking of a horror movie scenario honestly the only problem I can think of is just calcium 😂

  • @RealFinalCionide
    @RealFinalCionide Před 28 dny +52

    Hacker: *Sends Email*
    Victim: ...
    Hacker: I'm boiling your kettle.

    • @LRK-GT
      @LRK-GT Před 28 dny +5

      Victim: NoOoOO! I can't afford those KWh!

    • @torinnbalasar6774
      @torinnbalasar6774 Před 27 dny +1

      Conveniently, electric kettles are apparently not an uncommon cause of house fires either.

  • @jamesplotkin4674
    @jamesplotkin4674 Před 28 dny +174

    I'm fed up with tech we don't neither want, nor need. I don't care if I run out of rutabagas and I sure as hell don't need my fridge to remind me of it.

    • @ambiarock590
      @ambiarock590 Před 28 dny +12

      To me our pursuit of convenience has gone too far. Why do I need to pay tons of money to have a fridge that reminds me when I'm out of something? Being able to handle inconveniences is a good thing and I don't need tons of devices to handle every single issue

    • @greg6500
      @greg6500 Před 28 dny

      @@ambiarock590 They arent even providing convenience anymore, Its just abuse now

    • @marcodarko6941
      @marcodarko6941 Před 28 dny +1

      It isn't for anybody's own good or convenience.. it is for monitoring, the tyrrannical surveillance state.

    • @pvanukoff
      @pvanukoff Před 28 dny +12

      Contrived problems, so companies can offer contrived solutions, so they can siphon more money away from us. That's all it is.

    • @duckpwnd
      @duckpwnd Před 27 dny

      The end goal is for large corporations and government to have complete control over every facet of their lives . Our politicians who live like gluttonous kings will lecture you on how you're destroying the planet by taking a ten minute hot shower every day, and they'll be able to control it with tech like this. They want to create a population that's too miserable and demoralized and has too much of a slave mentality to fight back.

  • @jlaf8000
    @jlaf8000 Před 28 dny +22

    As a plumber, and Rinnai tech, I can confirm the wifi thing. However, in my experience thus far, it's been 100% optional, BUT they hide that detail deep in the install manual to discourage "cave-man" mode. I've also come across it on pellet wood stoves. A pellet wood stove, used in a remote mountain retreat cabin, no cell service and no satellite internet, i sarcastically say "where there is superb internet...."

  • @somewhat.random
    @somewhat.random Před 28 dny +36

    Currently shopping for a replacement window air conditioner. Guy in the store could not understand my major requirement being: it MUST not be a "smart" device. Why in gods name do you need an air conditioner that is connected to the internet? It's bizarre. And every single one that is "dumb" is also cheaper, so it's a bonus.

    • @lonniemcclure4538
      @lonniemcclure4538 Před 28 dny +2

      So it can be controlled remotely (such as when on the road or at work). Back before I retired, I had more than one occasion where I needed to turn on or off the A/C depending on the weather. Thermostats only regulate temperature, they don't anticipate it. Also, schedules can change. Someone might have their A/C temp set high while away from home, and want to adjust it back to normal if returning home earlier than expected, or might have it set to normal, but will be greatly delayed and want to bump it up high.
      If you don't have see a need for one, that's fine, but not everyone is you. Before I had smart units, I controlled mine with energy monitoring smart plugs. (Part of the reason for energy monitoring was to try and avoid shutting them down while the compressor was running).

    • @blackrifle6736
      @blackrifle6736 Před 28 dny +2

      *So that for homes lacking "smart-connected meters" your electric company may turn your HVAC off at their discretion, not yours. With the 3-letter agencies approval, of course.*

    • @simonspacek3670
      @simonspacek3670 Před 28 dny +9

      I remember how stunned was the guy that tried to sell me smart lightbulbs. I told him that I need dumb lightbulbs, controlled by switch, not by router. It seemed like it was out of mental ability to understand. He looked like me, when I tried to understand quantum physics, you know? "Yeah, I can understand some of those words, but together they make no sense at all" face.
      I happily took "dumb" LED lightbulbs, they work (they don't have adjustable color, but... I don't really mind) and they last years. That is all what I want from a lightbulb. Light.

    • @lonniemcclure4538
      @lonniemcclure4538 Před 27 dny

      @@simonspacek3670 - One place I found a smart light (or actually a smart socket) useful is in my dining room. That is because my home has the kitchen counter and dining room lights on the same switch, and I rarely need the dining room light on. I made certain I got a smart socket that preserved the last power state (rather than defaulting to "on" when power is first applied, as is often the default for smart lighting devices). That now means I can keep that dining light off, but still turn it on when necessary.
      It also came with a nice remote that is powered by the kinetic energy of pressing the button instead of a battery.
      I tried a similar setup for a second light in my bathroom, but unfortunately, that fixture turned out to be a "default to on" type.😥

    • @lonniemcclure4538
      @lonniemcclure4538 Před 27 dny +1

      @@blackrifle6736 - With a smart meter, the choice would be your whole home or nothing.
      Remotely controllable central A/C compressor cut-outs were thing well before smart devices existed. Electric companies typically offered some type of credit to get people to let them be installed. If there were any localities that ever made that type of device mandatory, I haven't heard or read about it.

  • @TauCu
    @TauCu Před 28 dny +69

    A Wi-Fi water heater? Damn, that's one powerful Wi-Fi transceiver.

  • @MedalionDS9
    @MedalionDS9 Před 28 dny +166

    Imagine trolling your neighbor by turning off their water heater randomly

    • @nolongeramused8135
      @nolongeramused8135 Před 28 dny +18

      You mean, the asshole renters across the street? Yeah, I can imagine that very easily....

    • @MaxSixty-Three
      @MaxSixty-Three Před 28 dny

      I'd just leave a nice note and offer to help them fix their leaky faucet... or their life

    • @Suzuki_Hiakura
      @Suzuki_Hiakura Před 28 dny +1

      Imagine just running it 24/7 to try and burn it out ;D

    • @4bSix86f61
      @4bSix86f61 Před 28 dny +7

      Or setting their water temperature to 69420

    • @allanchoy1386
      @allanchoy1386 Před 28 dny +3

      DINKLEBURG!!!

  • @brotherwarren5103
    @brotherwarren5103 Před 28 dny +6

    I think my favorite part of this vid. Is that at the end of the video, you just went. "Check out my sick watch that my love got me." That part, I love it. You still have this joy of the world. You still want to share and care with what's important to you. Thanks for being you.

  • @CaptainKremmen
    @CaptainKremmen Před 28 dny +16

    20-30 years ago, I wondered why home automation was rare. 5 years ago, I wondered why so much home automation was appearing. Now the answer is clear: Because the way it was done 20-30 years ago didn't give manufacturers a way to screw you over like they can now.

    • @xerr0n
      @xerr0n Před 27 dny +2

      this is not home automation, period.
      Home automation is under your, the owners, control and connected to the controller, not the internet, the controller being connected to the internet is not a good idea either, at least use a vpn for that.
      but for that you'd need a static ip, or a service which i don't recommend either.

  • @OnlyTwoShoes
    @OnlyTwoShoes Před 28 dny +23

    The digital equivalent to flushing the toilet while someone is in the shower

    • @blackrifle6736
      @blackrifle6736 Před 28 dny +2

      *That event is a repetitive reminder the plumbing capacity is inadequate to the task and a re-pipe is long overdue.*

    • @yosefmacgruber1920
      @yosefmacgruber1920 Před 2 dny

      @@blackrifle6736
      You do not need upgraded plumbing. Just a pressure-balanced valve, so that when the pressure of the cold water drops, it compensates by adjusting the hot water flow to match.

  • @mgallus
    @mgallus Před 28 dny +69

    Why do people want to keep going in the direction towards the dystopia of cyber punk? It's like they want to pay a rental fee for everything they have dispite buying it at full price and having to pay all repair fees if it's repairable at all.
    I get the doomed feeling for society at large in not only this area of life.

  • @SunsetArchon
    @SunsetArchon Před 28 dny +26

    Remember the days when you used to wait to let a repairman in your home to service and/or diagnose your water heater? You had to open the door to invite them in, like vampires. Now the water heater itself syphons your data perpetually, like a vampire, only it has its foot in the door at all times.

  • @ManiacRacing
    @ManiacRacing Před 28 dny +91

    Far as I can tell, "Smart" tech is just bad. The designers don't seem to care AT ALL if the item works properly. They also make sure contacting a real human being is nearly impossible. They KNOW people want to complain, so they make it as hard and time consuming as possible. I want my nokia flip phone back! And there IS a reason for all this: GREED. And as a long time AT&T customer, I'd be completely insane to hook ANY kind of essential service to their internet. 15 yrs of dropouts and "cannot connect to the internet" for 5-10 minutes EVERY TIME IT RAINS teaches me to do without the internet quite often.

    • @mybedroomtv
      @mybedroomtv Před 28 dny +18

      the only innovation left is innovating new subscriptions.

    • @volvo09
      @volvo09 Před 28 dny +15

      When I see "smart" on anything I see it as a disposable product.
      When the server goes away, or when the company decides "It's out of date!" You have to buy another product.
      They sell smart tech as a convenience, but it won't last. I just replaced a 1995 water heater in my home, if I bought a smart water heater will that work in 30 years? No way.

    • @legionofanon
      @legionofanon Před 28 dny +6

      I think i just saw that the Nokia brick phone is coming back. It's indestructability is yet to be determined tho

    • @dzhang4459
      @dzhang4459 Před 28 dny +6

      @@legionofanon Dollars to donuts it will be crap. They're banking on memes and novelty, not real quality that made it famous.

    • @legionofanon
      @legionofanon Před 28 dny

      @@dzhang4459 Oh for sure, I hold no breath that it will be as good as it once was with new circuits in it

  • @endadinh20
    @endadinh20 Před 26 dny +268

    Can anyone explain AMS120X?

  • @Yogsoggeth
    @Yogsoggeth Před 28 dny +236

    I bought a late 90's car. cost me under $1000. Did an engine rebuild on it. Cost me about $4000. Now I have a car with no dumb tech that will last the rest of my life and it only cost me $5000. Car is cheap to run and very little can break down on it, because it just doesn't have the nonsense modern cars come with.

    • @quietreader4190
      @quietreader4190 Před 28 dny +11

      A car for under $1000, huh? What world are you in?

    • @Shiznit304
      @Shiznit304 Před 28 dny +70

      @@quietreader4190you gotta know how to turn a wrench at those prices

    • @MegaCyberleader
      @MegaCyberleader Před 28 dny +21

      apphanrlt those kinda cars now only go up in value, bought my escape for 2500, its now with 6500 as a resale. No wifi installed.

    • @jb3753
      @jb3753 Před 28 dny +18

      ​@quietreader4190 $1000 is pretty reasonable for a used car from the 1990s with 150,000-200,000 miles.

    • @mellowgh0st
      @mellowgh0st Před 28 dny +12

      That's why I plan on keeping my 2007 Ranger that I paid $600 for lmao

  • @laurajackson04
    @laurajackson04 Před 26 dny +206

    What do you think sets AMS120X apart from other projects? It seems to be dominating discussions lately

  • @FlexDRG
    @FlexDRG Před 28 dny +16

    A colleague was playing with some connected lights. They could be setup in a way that when you receive an app 'light on' or 'light off'. And that turns the light on/off. So anyone that has you on WhatsApp/your number, and knows that command can turn on/off your lights willynilly. Brilliant SW engineering.... He turned that function off right quick...

  • @litigioussociety4249
    @litigioussociety4249 Před 28 dny +22

    A water heater is something you almost never adjust settings on except maybe when you first move in to a place, so having a dial that requires physically changing makes the most sense. I've never even heard of anyone adjusting it after moving in somewhere.

    • @ghfjfghjasdfasdf
      @ghfjfghjasdfasdf Před 28 dny +1

      Same. This is just plain bizarre.

    • @divinecomedian2
      @divinecomedian2 Před 28 dny +1

      For my tank water heater I'll turn the heat down when I'm on vacation away from the house. That's it though.

    • @lonniemcclure4538
      @lonniemcclure4538 Před 28 dny

      @@divinecomedian2 - Is there is a reason you don't turn if off completely when away?

    • @lonniemcclure4538
      @lonniemcclure4538 Před 28 dny

      One reason I could see for this is if one has a small tank, but sometimes needs more hot water. The way to do that with an undersize tank is to crank up the temperature (thereby mixing a smaller quantity of hotter water). One wouldn't want to run it at that temperature all the time, however. For a tankless water heater, changing the temp uses less energy than mixing hot water with cold to lower the temperature.

    • @yosefmacgruber1920
      @yosefmacgruber1920 Před 2 dny

      @@divinecomedian2
      On the old gas water heaters, all you had to do was walk over to the heater and turn the temperature knob to Vacation. Apparently that was just too simple. Had to make it complicated.

  • @kevinbritt3841
    @kevinbritt3841 Před 28 dny +8

    Thank you so much for this...I am a plumbing contractor and have hated this feature for a long time. It began as a sells gimmick, and now its just garbage. This going to become another way that they can deny warranties.

  • @user-vd5uq4uc9b
    @user-vd5uq4uc9b Před 28 dny +7

    I remember when insurance companies were offering reduced rates if the installed a monitoring system in your car. Now their colluding with gm.

  • @hoangxenia
    @hoangxenia Před 26 dny +225

    I am sure that AMS120X will go 100x just like you said

  • @Iraijus
    @Iraijus Před 28 dny +6

    As someone who has recently been flashing 'smart' devices to make them local only, or even creating my own devices, I love adding smart features to devices that don't really need it, just because I can.
    I certainly don't consider a device that needs to connect to someone else's server to be smart, though.

  • @3v068
    @3v068 Před 28 dny +63

    "Hey 3V09, why do you invest so much time into open source technology and trying to understand how anything and everything works????"
    Me: "This is exactly why."

    • @xerr0n
      @xerr0n Před 27 dny

      is this bot inception or something?

    • @pythogron
      @pythogron Před 23 dny

      ​@@xerr0nyes

  • @zwerko
    @zwerko Před 28 dny +7

    It gets way worse than that. There are millions of 'smart' switches, plugs, lights etc. that are getting OTA updates from their manufacturers in China, who in turn are fully controlled by the CCP. If they wanted, they could covertly update all the devices to turn on at a specific time and cause a massive blackout, if not worse. Not to mention all those robotic vacuums, gardeners, etc. that come with a hefty battery and who are one OTA FW update away from disabling their over-charge protection to cause millions of home fires... Friends don't let their friends' home devices connect to the internet!

  • @BoeseTat
    @BoeseTat Před 28 dny +7

    One of the most important channels on CZcams. Keep your work up

  • @Le_Ascott
    @Le_Ascott Před 28 dny +11

    Always separate your home network into two: one for internet-connected devices and another for offline devices. Unfortunately, most ISP-provided routers don't support this. Consider upgrading to a router that allows multiple networks or VLANs.

    • @lonniemcclure4538
      @lonniemcclure4538 Před 28 dny +1

      Most IoT devices will also work fine in network isolation mode (where devices can only see the internet, not other devices on the network). The guest network on some routers operate in that mode by default.

    • @simonspacek3670
      @simonspacek3670 Před 28 dny

      I mentioned this story here multiple times, but I will do it again. Some years ago I was a tech support for one company in US. And I got a call from a guy who needed to set his home printer to print some documents (it was common thing, usually that was 10-15 minutes call with everything). He unpacked the printer, turned it on and there the fun began. First of all, I told him NOT to connect it to Wi-Fi, because it will not communicate with his computer, when the computer is on VPN (we didn't have split). Cool, no problem. Connected by cable. First error - "cannot install driver without Wi-Fi connection". Fine, let's connect to Wi-Fi. It connected, we installed driver, all good. Print test page... and nothing. Printer showed message that it cannot print, because it is not configured on all devices connected to that network. Easy, let's disconnect it from Wi-Fi. No, cannot print, not connected to Wi-Fi. So, he decided to enable it on all other devices (he had to print something that day). So, his personal laptop. His phone. Family tablet. Wife's phone and work laptop. Their daughter's phone and laptop. And the printer said "no, not everything connected" again. At least it showed him what wasn't connected. Some Samsung device. He was confused, because he had no phone or TV from Samsung. Samsung "model_number" not connected to printer. One quick Google search revealed that it was their fridge. That printer was refusing to print, because it was not connected to a fridge.
      He said that he enabled it, printed those few papers he needed and packed that printer back in the box.

  • @graydi66y
    @graydi66y Před 28 dny +78

    I like having smart features. I don't like being forced to use them.

    • @MaxSixty-Three
      @MaxSixty-Three Před 28 dny +11

      Exactly! This is why Louis likes to call them anti-features (like the cloud in some cases)

    • @volvo09
      @volvo09 Před 28 dny +6

      Yes. I don't have any "smart" things, but I like what they can do.

    • @grants7390
      @grants7390 Před 28 dny +2

      I feel the same about smart TVs. the ability (if you want to use it) to steam youtube videos for example without the need for external devices is great to have. If they just added a switch to it that made it A dumb TV I would be more than happy to buy A smart TV.

    • @nnm711
      @nnm711 Před 28 dny +1

      Yeah, my LG washing machine supports steam and many other programs, but only through an app. And the LG app doesn't want to connect to the washing machine, it always fails... -_-

    • @1988nProud
      @1988nProud Před 28 dny

      Lmao i still remember the reason why we have cameras(internet) is becuase of 1 a**hole who couldnt refill the coffee pot. Anything from that point on was on a slope in the wrong direction.
      N ppl claim coffee isnt evil smh

  • @threeMetreJim
    @threeMetreJim Před 28 dny +8

    It's easy to 'punk' your neighbours if they have wi-fi connected devices. You simply set up a router with the same ssid and mac address, but with a different password (not hard if you don't know the neighbours). Switching it on will cause random failures as the devices get confused. They then get charged for call-outs to fix something that isn't broken. Just use discretion to avoid being caught.

    • @stavinaircaeruleum2275
      @stavinaircaeruleum2275 Před 27 dny +1

      Only problem is that once the neighbors turn off their wifi, they're going to be extremely curious about why their Internet is still on.

    • @threeMetreJim
      @threeMetreJim Před 27 dny

      @@stavinaircaeruleum2275 It never connects as the passwords won't match unless you somehow manage to guess it by accident (highly unlikely), but it causes devices to disconnect; or it did last time I tried it - I used a card in promiscuous mode to monitor connections, and saw them all drop (network file server in offices across the street, just as a test for a few minutes).

  • @rustymustard7798
    @rustymustard7798 Před 28 dny +31

    Joke's on them, i'm off grid with a fully analog solar water heater, and if there's no sun i got a big pot and a stove or fireplace.

    • @MrQuay03
      @MrQuay03 Před 27 dny

      Enjoying your bug bites?

    • @thedude5040
      @thedude5040 Před 26 dny

      You can simply never connect your wifi enabled devices to the internet. My garage door came with wifi enabled. I simply disabled the antenna.

    • @rustymustard7798
      @rustymustard7798 Před 26 dny

      @@MrQuay03 Lolwut? What bug bites?

    • @rustymustard7798
      @rustymustard7798 Před 26 dny

      @@thedude5040 Yeah, or just skip buying it altogether in favor of non connected devices.

    • @thedude5040
      @thedude5040 Před 26 dny

      @rustymustard7798 it's getting to the point you can't just skip it. If your TV breaks your only option is a new smart TV or digging through used TVs to find one that is not a smart TV. The same is getting true for refrigerators and garagedoor openers. I built a new house in 2021 and I had to go out of my way to find a non-smart non-program able thermostat. My house in Kansas stays 73 degrees 24x7x365 no matter if it's 115 or -40 outside. Utility bills don't bother me. Ironically water is my most expensive utility bill.

  • @goat5671
    @goat5671 Před 28 dny +7

    lol, ripped out the onstar module in my gm truck the first day i got it back in 2018

  • @toastangler
    @toastangler Před 28 dny +9

    Remember a few years ago when the director of the C.I.A. said "we'll be able to spy on you through your dishwasher"? Pepperidge Farm Remembers!!!

  • @toddburgess6792
    @toddburgess6792 Před 28 dny +14

    I double-dog dare GM to try and hack my 1963 Chevrolet. 😉
    They used to call those motion wound watches "*ack-off watches".
    Mine got overwound, but I was an active child!!

    • @TheAechBomb
      @TheAechBomb Před 28 dny +2

      modeen automatics can't even be overwound lol

  • @GlendonSmith-ip3bo
    @GlendonSmith-ip3bo Před 28 dny +5

    In a dilbert episode, dogbert causes the "smart shower" to freeze dilbert by getting him to say 14, then he asks dilbert, "what was that space movie where hal goes crazy?"

  • @new-bp6ix
    @new-bp6ix Před 28 dny +17

    My coffee cup is connected to the Internet

    • @quietreader4190
      @quietreader4190 Před 28 dny

      At this rate, we will see reusable c0nd0m's connected to the internet in a few years... FFS.

    • @aj.j5833
      @aj.j5833 Před 28 dny +2

      I want try see if I can't get into a wifi network through one of those. I've done it through ovens, refrigerators, door bells, baby monitors, ... all with permission of the owners of course, but I don't know any one with a wifi connected coffee cup.

  • @MaxSixty-Three
    @MaxSixty-Three Před 28 dny +247

    The titles of Louis Rossmann videos have gotten more and more ridiculous over the years, and unfortunately none of us are really surprised anymore. Kinda sad really

    • @volvo09
      @volvo09 Před 28 dny +74

      Looks like click bait...
      But it isn't click bait...
      😢

    • @MaxSixty-Three
      @MaxSixty-Three Před 28 dny +26

      @@volvo09 The ugly truth

    • @aj.j5833
      @aj.j5833 Před 28 dny +34

      One of few content creators with click baity titles that aren't click bait.

    • @rendezvousonmemorylane
      @rendezvousonmemorylane Před 28 dny +22

      We wish it was clickbait but reality is worse than fiction.

    • @user-tn3hw9kc8q
      @user-tn3hw9kc8q Před 28 dny +2

      Spoken like someone who does skim Terms of Service or Privacy Policies. You just blindly click agree. Nor do you keep up with news on all the sneaky spying companies have gotten caught doing. But sure go right ahead and let them keep tabs on when, how long and how frequently you shower. Let us know how that works out for you, how long it takes for a data "breach" to happen.

  • @saigyl9149
    @saigyl9149 Před 28 dny +5

    remember, nothing is more secure than a closed system

  • @Frost_Tiger
    @Frost_Tiger Před 28 dny +3

    Yeah I got to learn how to build a secure internet system every time you talk smart this and that makes me reconsider

  • @ProtossHyrdalisk
    @ProtossHyrdalisk Před 28 dny +11

    The best and fastest TV in my house is a dumb TV. Jesus Christ. It’s crazy how long it takes my 2000$ oled smart TV TO TURN ON.

    • @lonniemcclure4538
      @lonniemcclure4538 Před 28 dny

      As someone that remembers decades with CRT TVs, I can't say that has bothered me. My $700 Roku LCD TV doesn't take long at all.

  • @Jzwiz
    @Jzwiz Před 28 dny +3

    This is why when people advertise smart objects i always go “but why” i dont need a smart toothbrush, i dont need a smart oven. If i want remote control it should be local only.

  • @user-yv7dt5je1l
    @user-yv7dt5je1l Před 28 dny +12

    This surely wasn't on my 2024 bingo card! 🤣

  • @CentreMetre
    @CentreMetre Před 28 dny +6

    I was recently looking for cameras and mentioned to some people in my class about not wanting them to be online only, they were making a fuss about "Why does that matter", theyre into tech aswell so i dont get how they can be so stupid when it comes to stuff like this. Whenever someone mentions "why does it matter it being online" im gonna cite this.

    • @avisprimey
      @avisprimey Před 28 dny

      Something like Insecam or Shodan will explain everything better than I could. Let the numbers speak for themselves.

  • @bretthallahan9294
    @bretthallahan9294 Před 28 dny +3

    I was literally just looking at adding recirculation stuff to my Rinnai and immediately noped out when I stumbled across the article that spurred this video lol.

  • @solinari4101
    @solinari4101 Před 28 dny +3

    I love the the little after vid content. Its always entertaining and fun... especially kitties

  • @LeTimeDevourer
    @LeTimeDevourer Před 28 dny +5

    You are the best man, fighting the proper good fight

  • @MrEthanhines
    @MrEthanhines Před 28 dny +11

    their water heater performs a tankless job

  • @robertheinrich2994
    @robertheinrich2994 Před 28 dny +7

    7:50 they saw you disposing a box? suggestion: just write an arbitration clause onto it. and then watch them squirm because they agreed to arbitration because of the text on the box.
    fighting HOAs with arbitration clauses, could be fun.

  • @SC-RGX7
    @SC-RGX7 Před 28 dny +4

    Bro I just want my coffee machine to start making fucking coffe without asking me my wifi password ,my email, my address, my mother's maiden name, my pet's name, sacrificing my first born son, swear allegiance to apple's anti-consumer practices, my social security number and whether I am Drake or Kendrick.
    Is it too much to ask??

  • @shApYT
    @shApYT Před 28 dny +3

    Hank Hill would hate this too.

  • @ferdis7
    @ferdis7 Před 28 dny +4

    When the "IoT" was explained to me in college... I had no idea the level it would get to lol

  • @johnsmith-gs4qf
    @johnsmith-gs4qf Před 28 dny +6

    Very good video. One of my pet peeves are having internet access for appliances like dish washers, refrigerators, washers/dryers, etc! Desktop computers, laptops, security cameras, and phones should be the only devices needing internet access for most people. By the way, nice watch (there is something special about a mechanical watch with all those tiny gears telling time with surprisingly good accuracy).

    • @robertsmith2956
      @robertsmith2956 Před 28 dny +1

      Mine overwound on a ten mile run. They want $650 to look at it. I know what is wrong, it overwound. Worked during the 1st mile. Didn't work after ten miles.

  • @ventilate4267
    @ventilate4267 Před 28 dny +7

    Friendly reminder to change your water heater anode rod 🙂

  • @TerryGilsenan
    @TerryGilsenan Před 28 dny +5

    Never mind the gas bill, they could boil the water in the pipes and then burn the house down.

    • @lonniemcclure4538
      @lonniemcclure4538 Před 28 dny

      Unless it allows setting the thermostat outside of normal limits, that won't happen anymore than if someone physically accessed the water heater and turned the temp up to the max (typically 160F, which is still far below boiling).

    • @MattyEngland
      @MattyEngland Před 27 dny

      There are multiple fail-safes on all modern water heaters.

    • @TerryGilsenan
      @TerryGilsenan Před 27 dny

      @@MattyEngland If their entire API is wide open, then who knows what can be done? Assuming it would fail-safe is just an assumption.

    • @TerryGilsenan
      @TerryGilsenan Před 27 dny

      @@lonniemcclure4538 If their entire API is wide open, then who knows what can be done? Assuming it would fail-safe is just an assumption.

  • @twiggledy5547
    @twiggledy5547 Před 28 dny +5

    Becoming an electrician and network tech so I can be aggressively technophobic while creating offline device networks. My dream is a home AI that can be run from a server in the basement

  • @4bSix86f61
    @4bSix86f61 Před 28 dny +23

    What's next? A Wi-Fi controlled massager with a zero day for Louis Rossman?

  • @20NewJourney23
    @20NewJourney23 Před 28 dny +3

    Aww that's wonderful. What a nice gift!!

  • @seacarter7448
    @seacarter7448 Před 28 dny +4

    Waiting for the adult toy connected to the internet

  • @thelocalcoma
    @thelocalcoma Před 28 dny +9

    My apartment complex installed smart locks, thermostats, and public wi-fi in my apartment without my consent, then raised my rent for it 🤣 It's currently storming in my area, and my smarthome app is telling me it can't adjust my air conditioning or unlock my front door because the power is fluctuating. Yes, I can do it manually, but it's yet another reason why I didn't want this. I love tech, I build computers for fun, but this is wild 🤣

    • @quikgold513
      @quikgold513 Před 28 dny +2

      It's an unwanted escape room.

    • @God__Emperor_
      @God__Emperor_ Před 28 dny +3

      Mine tried, I ripped it all and put back the old stuff. Never said a thing to me.

    • @SirenaSpades
      @SirenaSpades Před 28 dny +2

      Your landlord, who owns the building, had these things installed. It has nothing to do with your.. consent. You certainly don't need to consent to something that isn't yours. It's not your building, you rent it. Save up, buy your own place, and install whatever hardware you desire.

    • @thelocalcoma
      @thelocalcoma Před 28 dny +3

      @SirenaSpades oh for sure, I agree with you. It mostly amused me, though, because they clearly have no clue what they're doing. I can access all of my neighbors' devices through the community internet, and someone is sending out viruses through it regularly 🤣 I was more commenting on the fact that this is how everything is headed, unfortunately. I miss the "good old days" of losing my keys 🤣

    • @LRK-GT
      @LRK-GT Před 28 dny +4

      @@SirenaSpades Fundamentally, unwanted 'smart devices' are equivalent to unwanted CCTV/surveillance cameras inside your home.
      It's not 'better' just because it's not piped directly into the Landlord's spank station. Renting or not, that's not okay, at all.
      Sadly, our courts are so purposefully backwards, I doubt that precedent will be set anytime soon.

  • @Incubansoul
    @Incubansoul Před 28 dny +6

    But Y tho?

  • @AlexSmith-gr4hp
    @AlexSmith-gr4hp Před 28 dny +7

    If only Canada had this for the truckers. Forget freezing bank accounts, freezing showers is the ultimate punishment.

    • @lonniemcclure4538
      @lonniemcclure4538 Před 28 dny

      Yet there are some people that purposely take cold showers.

    • @AlexSmith-gr4hp
      @AlexSmith-gr4hp Před 28 dny +1

      @@lonniemcclure4538 and there are people that vote for Trudeau. People do dumb sh!t. What’s your point?

    • @lonniemcclure4538
      @lonniemcclure4538 Před 27 dny

      @@AlexSmith-gr4hp - My point was there would be some people that wouldn't be bothered by it, so it falls short of the "ultimate punishment".
      Basically, for some, it would be the "Joke's On You, I'm Into That Shit" internet meme.

  • @IntelliPocalypse
    @IntelliPocalypse Před 28 dny +4

    Something tells me they will be replacing that water heater in 3 months because the fancy heating thing breaks
    My friend bought a new water heater. Not even a year old. Pilot went out. Replaced the pilot, thermostat broke, it shot water out into his back yard because it was over filling. Finally, they replaced it with a pilot from an old water heater with turn dials instead of that digital shit. Works great now. Electronics ruin shit

    • @lonniemcclure4538
      @lonniemcclure4538 Před 28 dny

      You sound as if you've never had a mechanical thermostat fail. If so, your experience is not mine. In contrast, I have yet to have an electronic one fail. Both of us together still don't provide enough data points to prove one is worse than the other.

    • @IntelliPocalypse
      @IntelliPocalypse Před 27 dny

      @@lonniemcclure4538 then I guess it's the old third times the charm