How most 16" Macbook Pros often kill themselves & why they're unfixable
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Is it me or is Rossmann getting more swole?!? Brutal ending to a video... sorry to hear.
I haven't gotten much stronger but I lost 30 lbs so it gives the illusion that I'm swole when it's just I'm less fat. My current routine is something approximating this, adjusting upwards as I get stronger.
*Monday:*
1 set of deadlifts, 300-320 lbs, set of 5-8
1 set of shoulder press, 115 lbs set of 10 or 135 set of 7
9-10 weighted pullups with 45 lbs
10-12 curls 75 lbs OR 3-4 curls 95 lbs
10-12 skullcrushers 75 lbs OR 3-5 skullcrushers 95 lbs
half an hour of elliptical with high intensity cardio/interval training mixed in, heart rate 125-135 for normal, 165-175 for interval
*Tuesday:*
half an hour of elliptical with high intensity cardio/interval training mixed in, heart rate 125-135 for normal, 165-175 for interval
highwayfit medium routine
*Wednesday:*
set of squats, 255 lbs for a set of 9 to 11
set of benchpress, 255 lbs for a set of 4-5
set of pullups, 18-23
10-12 curls 75 lbs
10-12 skullcrushers 75 lbs
And then Friday I do Monday's workout, Sunday I do Wednesday's workout, etc, and so on and so forth. Every other day is a heavy weightlifting day and they all include a leg lift so there's no dedicated leg day.
I stopped eating bread, pitas, and unnecessary carbs as well. No dessert, no chocolate or added sugars, no soft drinks, no energy drinks, no sweetened tea.
It's a good feeling to not be out of shape anymore. Go for it!!!
@@rossmanngroup Thanks for sharing!
@@rossmanngroup WE GO JIM
@@rossmanngroup is this MBP 16â specific problem or its a nice surprise for the whole MacBook Pro M1 bunch ?
The dead macbooks are giving him strength.
It appears that "throw it away and buy a new" is a GREAT model that will be used for a green and sustainable future. BRAVO BIG CORP!
and apple has no shortage of gaping assholes who will repeatedly take that Tim Cook cock right up the fuckin ass
It's it funny how that works? The regulatory government-corporate structures wants to move us away from cars that last 20-25 years if taken care of to cars that are much more resource intensive to build that won't likely last more than ten no matter how well they are taken care of.
So much courage. I wish other companies had that courage..
dont forget to buy icloud to keep your data
Apple is still years behind appliance manufacturers like Samsung or LG. Imagine if Louis had to scratch 1 inch thick layer of silicone from the whole motherboard in order to even see what it is. Washing machines control boards were done this way years ago to prevent ANY KIND OF REPAIR. So you basically have to replace them every 2 years and they cost almost as much as a whole new machine.
As a previous Apple employee. I saw so much of this. The many great quality techs I worked around, tried hard to help customers when and where they could. However itâs the policies and stances the company took that made it often impossible to achieve the customers goal. I also used to think (and maybe it was once upon a time) that they made good hardwareâŠ.sadly the whole operation is a flaming dumpster fire
soldering ssds was the dumbest idea. They made so much money on ram and additional drive space. On top of that, they ditched samsung ssd which are way better. They should use crucial or samsung chips but they are too cheap for that. If you do hard video editing on those pro machines, it will fry the chips. because onboard ssds heat up the entire board. Plus those ssds use ram , and the apple controler is not a dedicated controler, you can be sure that if you copy big files, it will throttle down. The best thing to do is to get storage in icloud and to get an extended warranty. When you think about it, at this point, apple products are luxury items and social status symbols. They should invest in making small sockets for ram and ssds like they did with antenna. because drives and ram are what fail the most in computers other than psu and graphic card. The problem of companies nowadays is that they are owned by banks and the bottom line is to squeeze as much money out of their customers as they can. that is why products look very good and shinny but underneath they are big pieces of crap.
They definitely have engineered some good hardware over the years but it was never their MO
Their laptops have always been a buyer beware affair.
But they have that beautiful Apple sphincter! Er, I mean ring.
Excellent videos! I forked out the money for one MacBook Pro 2011 and we all know what happen to those 15â models. Having said that, are there any laptop out now that can handle the heat from heavy video processing especially if used in an outdoor environment?
I dont understand... My CZcams playback speed is set to normal, but he's talking like it's set to x2.00
These are some of the best videos on CZcams. Everyone needs to understand how important the cause is that this guy fights for. Right to repair effects us all, more negatively as more time is allowed to pass without our right to repair eternally protected. We need so many more people as dedicated and talented as mr. Rossmann
Why would you want to fight to repair Shit????
Stop buying Shit which means stop buying Shit Apple products...
100% agree, Louis is showing us that if you let Apple run the show like they are, they'll hold a monopoly & screw up even your own data.
It's shocking that a laptop will fail that badly, you can't even get your data off it.... very crap product.
Can't rely on "the cloud" as your answer, it's really bad HW design
At the end âŠHe fights for all of us â€
Louis, I don't know if you'll see this, but please know that you're awesome. You've inspired me to repair a ton of electronics & other stuff, plus tell lots of people about right to repair. Electronics feel way more accessible after watching your videos. I know this is coming from a random stranger, but huge thank you for what you do. You are an inspiration.
Thank you! I'm glad you learned something!
@@ozordiprince9405 you get no thank you, sorry bud. :)
@@funkysmokee8764 ahahahh grifter
Same thing here, watching this channel videos before the pandemic is the reason I decided to study computer engineering. Thank you Louis
This POS is a crook. He is the equivalent of lying politician Technical Support. I've worked with Apple products for almost 10 years. He is human garbage.
I watched this video on a 16inch macbook pro when he'd just uploaded and hoped that this wouldn't happen to me. Got scared and saved everthing important on a cheap flashdrive. A month passed and my mac died with the EXACT SAME ISSUE. The motherboard got replaced for around a thousand bucks and I sold the machine right after it. I lost around $2000 in total. For one time I hoped that you were wrong but.. oh well..
Despite all of this my friends and relatives are asking me advice on buying macs. Buying a PC with soldered SSD is a seriously DUMB move and people need to know about this! There are now way better screens and keyboards on many windows devices and many of them are repairable. Please don't think this is a single model issue. This company is not dumb. These pro devices are things that people rely on to do real work to get paid. When things go wrong and machine gets broken, they know that you'll be ready to pay them more! Apple is indeed evil.
Shit, i got my custom pc for $1800
Wow that sucks. The 2019 was trash.
Please please do a better job backing up than a flash drive when a CZcams video reminds you. If your data matters to you, back it up, get backup drives with warranties that cover recovery or buy insurance (disk data recovery is expensive), replace backup disks when warranty/insurance expires, etc
Apple want people to keep buying their products. They are designed to fail after a set period of time. Or they become obsolete due to software updates over time.
I have a windows PC built about 10 years ago and apart from it being slow at times it still works(touch wood).
@Davinia Robbins brah ur comparing a PC to a laptop đ€Ł
@@daviniarobbins9298 Yeah idk about PCs but I have a 1000$ HP envy x360 windows laptop from 2017 and it's the slowest piece of shit I have ever used. Legit unusable even for school and simple stuff like word. Laptops are not built to last long it seems, whatever the company.
If I send my Dell to Apple complaining that it won't install Facetime, I wonder if they'll tell me it's because of water damage.
Whenever there is water damage, they take HIGH RESOLUTION images PROVING it was liquid damage, and when we fix them, you basically get a new device in 90% of the cases.
@@isaeltavarez yo apple, READ. No wonder louis hate u kind so much.
@@isaeltavarez that "proof" typically being that the moisture pads have triggered, which is not proof whatsoever. Those pads will trigger if you just live in a high humidity area. Also they will not help you at all with your data, even when the issue has nothing to do whatsoever with your SSD. I've seen Apple send back factory reset machines on Macbooks that simply needed the LVDS cable to the screen replaced. There' is no reason whatsoever to defend Apple in this situation. Either have proper Apple repair shops, or let independent shops have access to the tools they need.
they will probably give you the standard line: We can fix it, but it will cost you 100 dollars less then a new one.... better buy a new one. That's Apple Genius Bar.
@@isaeltavarez found the apple dick rider
I get so many of these turning up. For those reading/watching; before you even power up the machine, check the PPBUS resistance, check the SSD 2V5 resistance.
If SSD is shorted, remove the VREG and check again; if it's still shorted HARD ( < 1R0 ) then you might be lucky and it's a blown/corroded cap. If it's 3~6R it's probably either the NAND dead or the PCB shorted :(
What ever you do, if you find a corroded cap on the NAND or PPBUS rail next to the NAND VREG, ***REPLACE THE GODDAMNED VREG*** first before you even consider powering it back up after removing the short - as sometimes that shorted cap is the only thing that's saving the NAND from a VREG that's likely going to spit out something more than 2V5.
You want PPBUS and NAND 2V5 to be > 400 ohms when warm, or 1K+ when cool. If they're not, then you've got a dead NAND, PCB or other issue still.
And when (if fixed) put some clamping zenner on NAND vdd circuit to try protect it.
shagger does it again
Itâs not a corroded cap itâs the Apple engineers that is morally corroded. My a1989 1TB ssd would not turn on after sleep. It have short on ppbus caused by NAND verg rail and I have a hole in one the SSD NANDs.
Another suggestion, use a brush to clean the SSD power regulator area whenever you open it up, it is likely the short is caused by dust accumulation.
@@ScaredPilot Apple devices are meant to be used only in sterile, surgery clean spaces. Also you're holding it wrong
Really liked the pace louis went at in this one. Really held my attention in a way some rants/topics don't feel as direct/ concise.
His seething anger towards Apple makes this entertaining
Agreed. It's the first video of his I ever finished.
Apple really upped their game on the self destruct features of the MacBook. Last MacBook I had to revive was a 2010 I think. Hard drive cable stopped working but since those machines have been out so long you can get plenty of replacement parts. New cable and MacBook came back to life.
@@SuperNostalgia. TF???
I totally lost confidence with Apple products after I purchased a 2017 MacBook Pro with touch-bar. $5000 laptop that failed in one year. Logic board was fried and replaced with all data lost. MacBook Pro only lasted another 2 years after repair. The saddest aspect to this is my old tough as a war tank MacBook Pro 2014 model is still going strong.
Why canât Apple just stick to a style of manufacturing that is repairable and robust. Or is that not good for overall profit đź
Butterfly keyboard is to blame. Using cheap non-thunderbolt hub might have fried try the motherboard. It seems like Apple made a mistake of forms over function.
Apple speeds up the planned obsolescence because their CEO, their Board and their shareholders are impatient.
This makes me sad to hear. Iâm coming from a 2013 MBP and it still works great but outgrown in. Just ordered the 16â MBP 48GB/ 40 core. So this shit more than likely will die in a year?!
because low quality products = more profits, that's Apple's new motto these daysđ
@@drowzzworks don't use USB-C Hub to charge + data transfer as electricity can jump to SSD NAND and shock them. use MagSafe for power, and usb-c hub for data and display only. you'll be okay. my M1 Pro has been great!! this issue also happens to my Lenovo laptop and its motherboard was fired. This happens commonly to all USB-C laptops when you mix high power delivery + data transfer.
Enjoy the date with the Everclear!
Always there, consistent & faithful
theres a reason video games can end up an addiction. it doesnt yell at you all the time, it doesnt spend all your money without your permission. so many things that are just better than women
I love Everclear! Santa Monica, one of their best songs, though my favorite is Sunflowers.
@@bradhaines3142 video games donât yell at you all the time????? You must be playing the wrong video games!
@@bradhaines3142 what can I say but yikes
I have no interest in computer repair. However, watching you go through your diagnosis process is very interesting. As a two decade automotive technician the diagnosis process requires both knowledge and critical thinking... And I enjoy watching your process (and your subtle yet sarcastic monologue)
Thank you!
Sarcasm is about the only way to handle idiocy. Theres just something soothing about it :)
Exact same thing happened to my MBP M1. Luckily it was still under warranty and I had all my data backed up. I feel really bad though for everyone that had to experience this under different circumstances. This video deserves a lot more attention. Thanks for the great work Louis.
Hi! Did you get a replacement laptop or thit they repair it with a new logic board. My brand new M3 Pro 16inch just died the same way and i sent it to reppair under the apple 1 year guarantee. I'm just curious
Thank you and sorry for that bad day. Hope you had many better days after and wish you more good ones next year. And thank you for fighting for right to repair
Man, this video is actually very entertaining.
Not the ending where I just feel bad for Louis but him getting progressively angrier at the situation of fixing the Macbook. Nobody could be that coherent and get across just how frustrating Apple's products are whilst on Camera and while actively attempting to fix the Macbook at circuitboard component level.
I mean this video is perfect at showing just how terrible of company Apple is today for absolutely everybody. The consumer via having extremely obvious amd proveable built in planned obsolescence that wipes 100% of user data stored locally, bad for the environment as it just equates to more landfill but most importantly of all driving repair people, the most competent among us such as Louis Rossman to the brink of insanity by repeating the same testing for the same damn problem that he can tell just from the story he got from the customer.
I'm gonna save and share this video to anybody who says they actually like Apple products.
I'm on the brink of insanity from 10 yrs on CZcams and people still butchering my name :(
@@rossmanngroup love your work, lawrence
@@rossmanngroup I would fix it but I keep getting a 'This action isn't allowed' message.
So yeah, my bad.
@@rossmanngroup People still spell my name wrong. It's just a world thing, death of the author shit. You put something out there and people are free to interpret it how they please. Sadly that includes your name it seems.
@@bluephreakr No m8 this not death of the author just me reverting to my most common known spelling of the name. It still sounds correct in speech and in my head so yeah.
Nothing to do with discrediting the author.
As a non-Apple user, I've never had a computer fail so spectacularly. Yes, I've had some HP laptops that were built like absolute garbage, but every issue I ever encountered with one of them was fixable and never have I been in a situation where an entire machine was basically bricked because of a single chip failing.
This cannot be incompetence, it must be malice.
My Macbook 16" Pro died after 15 months, I didn't have Apple Care because no laptop or PC will die within 3 years. I had 20 years of Dell laptops at the large company I used to work for I had two die from HD failures after 3 years, and the last one I had is still going after 6.5 years, although I did replace the HD with an SSD after 4 years.
It is just bad hardware. What I dont understand, is why everything need to be soldered together as if it was a RaspberryPI or something. Stupid hardware design. In the future they will create a real modulair product again and sell it at an extra premium price, and have commercials leach on the "remember when things could be changed", and people will go nuts and buy it. And we will sit back and say "Yeah. That is how a real computer should look like".
@@axelBr1 If a company can not guarantee that their product works flawless after 2 years. Then dont buy.
I think arrogance is the word that comes most to mind for me.
if i understood this correct, this notebook is still repairable its just the exact piece that needs to be replaced is the piece that the owner needs and doesn't want to be replaced
"Don't look for where something dropped, listen for it" - That is so true at the repair desk AND in the garage!!
Love this channel.
Right to repair is a huge issue that totally flys under the radar. Itâs an issue both sides can get behind but âmysteriouslyâ the politicians always fall short on the issue.
The EU is fighting hard to change that.
The EU is a piece of s*** . They destroy all small businesses with their crazy regulations. They don't care about European citizens at all. They only want more power for big tech and big pharma and big government. As every other governmental institution. Also EU is not demcratic at all, nobody voted for these people. Same nonsense as the latest WHO power grab. @@erichramone7812
by now, i would expect an apple car to explode when the wiper fluid gets empty, because the check-engine light for the wiper fluid ignites the gasoline inside the trunk, because the gasket for the fuel pump was made of old macbook air pcbÂŽs, which delaminated
BUT - only a low number of customers explode!
I'm happy that even as a layman I can mostly understand what's going on from my memories of learning circuits back in high-school and middleschool. Thanks for creating the content that you do.
One could really watch his back log of content and pretty much have a firm understanding of hoe the power moves around a Mac.
I also watch the blogs where they repair old electronics from before WW2 to the 1990's. Can't always follow along, but I learn something on every video I watch. Not that I'm going to pickup a 1945 radio and fix it, but just try, if I had the time. I don't have the equipment to test parts like Louis has in his shop.
Lay man?
@@Mrshoujo Someone without a complete education/training in the subject. E.g. someone outside the industry of computer repair.
@@iworkout6912 yes, that would be me in the 70s, repairing electronics for the US Army. These vids DO remind me of DOD training sometimes - ha!
Glad you showed up in my reccomend channels. I like how you explain what things are and do and straight to the point.
I really like your method of starting with the most obvious failure mode and working your way up the chain of less likely ones.
Constantly amazed by your depth of knowledge. Literally watching you is like watching someone talk in a different language fluently.
i love that he was able to fully explain everything and diagnose under 15 minutes. if he wasnt recording he could have done it in 5 minutes or less. Thats how much experience these guys have with these machines which tells you how apple has concistant issues accross tge board
Yup đ 7:44 do wish,prayy tells you have good luck đ€đč
I have allowed ads to run on this channel. Thats rare. You are a tech-angel man. Keep the great work.
I have to admit that I concur with almost everything you do. Thanks for keeping it real!! The truth will always make you feel free!
Man it's always a joy to see this man repairing MacBooks. A whole Library of information and common fixes in his head and he explains stuff as he does his work as smooth as butter.
He knows every PPBus ever invented by Apple. ;D
Oooooh đŻđŻ on the ppeeeeBus truth đ on 07:43
Man. If I knew the design did that upon failure and I worked on this every day...I...I don't know how you do it without doing something stupid man. I applaud you. I recently repaired a Mitsubishi sinker edm machine when Mitsubishi said it would be at minimum 10k to fix. Guess what it was? A corrupted file. The hard drive in the machine had 16 partitions. I was able to rebuild the corrupted one and get the machine back up and running in 3 hours. Funny story asked for a raise said nah. We can't do that right now. Head Hunter found me and I start new job in a week. Fuck em.
Fuck em!
Louis, i love your sarcasm. your videos make my day everytime. thank you for that!
Loved this video, fascinating to watch Louis at work. He makes it so interesting and I am no techie. More please.
My M1 MacBook Pro 13" died 14 months old, out of the blue.
Under my COSTCO warranty, they took it and saw that indeed no water damage. The motherboard and a couple other chips had randomly failed. No warnings, just flaked out and died.
It was my first brand new laptop I ever bought and was shocked Apple only covers their computers for 12 months. So 14 months in, boom. $700+ repair.
Yes. Apples do randomly fail, they failed on me.
Not only did it failed you, it also robbed you. $700+ repair for something randomly failing is a literal scam considering they sold these devices at a premium and couldnât even warranty it for more than a year. Even without warranty, other laptops wouldnât even cost that much for a fix.
@@khangvinh4656 that's how they make a profit
it wasn even planned obsolescense, it's planned robbery. they know you gonna keep paying
Were you at least able to recover your data?
@@khangvinh4656 don't people (presumably) in the USA have any reasonable lifespan/durability/usage type law, where Apple would be forced to replace something like this even after 5 years, let alone 2?
The way this fails is unforgivable. It's bad enough that it's expensive. But to kill the SSD that you can't recover is terrible for someone that doesn't have backups.
Prayy To iCloud storage. N oooooh
Apple
This video turned up as a CZcams recommendation just now. A couple of months ago my 15 month old MacBook Pro just died while I was using it. I hadn't bought Apple Care because no PC/Laptop should last less than 3 years. But Apple didn't except that argument so I had to shell out nearly 50% of the purchase price for a new main board and no explanation as to why it had failed, so I can stop doing whatever it was I was doing that caused it to fail, baring in mind the thing hadn't moved from my desk in all the time I'd had it.
Seeing this video I now think I know what the problem was, and zero confidence it was bad luck and the thing could probably die again, probably just after the 90 day replacement guarantee expires.
Backups - this is why Iâm obsessed with keeping my backups up to date.
@@axelBr1 was this with intel or m1 chip?
You helped me yet again, Louis. Thanks for that.
I love all the videos you have done, and consider you a computer guru! Keep up the great work!
Thank you for the content @Louis - you tried your best to help the customer and you got a great sense of humour man! All you can do is keep trying alright - never give up! :)
Louis is absolutely brilliant. Long time fan. Somehow able to make content interesting that I have no hope of understanding, simultaneously exposing and making a complete mockery out of a billion dollar company with no excuse at this point, In a short concise video⊠that I understood perfectly. Weâll done again, sir.
Thank you!
Even worse...*trillion dollar company
That video shows one thing. If you want to earn big money you have to sell shitty overbranded, overpriced devices. Your hardware should not be wel made, becouse they have to buy lots of it. If customer comes back because hardware broke itself you just tell him he is stupid. Also develop some way you can blame him for damage (he can not open the device himself - the warranty is void, so he can not prove that it was manufacturer fault in fact).
Louis i think in fact we are stupid as population because we agree for this nonsense to even have place.
Ass kisser đ€Ą
@@Metaobserver only for Louis đ
Excellent work as always!
Excellent work as always Louis :) Do relate - very much so - as a former ACMT coming up on 10 years, i have seen this kind of disrespectful and improper eventualities from Apple time and time again, not to mention the sketchy stuff they pull with GSX. Receiving boards that have been thrown back in the oven who knows how many times so much all the stickers are burnt. I have done my fair share of component level board repair as well, however not quite to the level of precision, professionalism and detail as yourself. Keep up the good fight my friend. Always better days to come we can only hope :)
Love Louis's honesty and no bs attitude. Also, jealous of his tech knowledge
Your page isn't dying like you think. A previous post got 222k views, the problem is for the algorithm you post too much. Linus talks about exactly that in a recent video. Please dont delete this channel! Post once per day on this channel and maybe post a second video on another channel for that specific video.
I did once a day for a while, it doesn't change things at all. I've heard that advice many times, tried it, with zero result.
@@rossmanngroup how long did you try it out? It feels like you should do it for a longer time for the algorithm to get it. Maybe also transfer all but the core content to the other channel.
I think in a way it doesn't matter entirely. The viewers that are gone likely have learned a lot and the word is spreading via word of mouth at a much bigger rate than the viewcount shows, whereas the videos are still extremely informative and helpful and those who are in it to learn will always find new things, whereas new people always have a chance to see new events covered by Louis. I'm not sure about technicians, depending on how they search for issues they might just find Louis immediately but not watch much of the newer content that's not relevant to them at the time? Although I would have to assume that's a fairly small amount of people. I'm not a wizard and as such I can't really predict if this is just a fluctuation that will rebounce, but I do believe these videos do still have a very positive impact on a lot of people and in some ways society as a whole. I also feel like CZcams itself might be treating Louis slightly unfavourably, as seen from a lot of people who say they haven't seen certain videos. That just proves even more how big of a positive impact so many ideas Louis reminds of us to keep helping push really have.
The thing Louis needs to do are shorts. Because this could be shortened. The tl;dr response earlier could be used in a three-minute video. He really needs to hire a video editor to create shortened forms of his previous content - quick edits that have a _bare minimum_ of technical stuff required to understand the problem with jump cuts between scenes would be adequate.
@@bluephreakr unfortunately that's what the algorithm is pushing now. Even more so when TikTok finally gets banned in the U.S.
You've got to respect a man that is willing to show his Fails! Good stuff Louieee.
i would replace the fail to bad luck .. is not a fail to not be able to do a miracle ..
First video of yours Iâve ever seen. Enjoyed every second of it. Learned a lot and laughed even more. Subbed. Thanks man.
Love your attitude bro! Loved this video!
Thank you!
This might be the first repair video I've watched through and understood, considering how simple this case was.
First video Iâve ever seen on your channel. Very impressed.
Dude you are so incredibly intelligent and such an inspiration to watch. Thanks for being you đ
Too much everclear or the like always gave me a headache, fireball is good to go though.
That's why I put them together. No headache that way.
@@rossmanngroup please do a demonstration on personal repair by streaming this procedure live (again)
@@MikehMike01 bro what?
@@RyanRoadReaper probably just a bot that stole someone's password
Dropped a screw while working on a printer. Heard a clink as it hit the printer leg, but no screw.
I knew exactly where it was when it fell, so I dropped another from the same point. I watched it hit the leg and roll into a hole in the raised floor. Pulled up a tile, and found both screws next to each other.
nice
Somehow it didn't fly 7 feet across the room.
With all the issues I have and have been having with this exact model, I'm done with Apple. I'll try to make this one live as long as possible and then I'm moving on. Thank you for the work you do, Louise and for another interesting video
LOL Rossmanâs advice on dropping things. As a mechanic, when I drop something, I freeze and donât blink. Hopefully you froze in time that whatever you dropped is still falling and pinging around and you will either see it, hear it, hell might even feel it. But whatever you do, donât go fumbling trying to catch it or stop it from going wherever itâs going.
And this is EXACTLY why we need SOME kind of regulation to enforce some kind of penalty on companies that make devices unreliable, impossible to fix, and with very obvious design flaws for profit.... even if just a large tax on companies, we seriously need to punish them for wasting time, money, resources, etc for a device people rely on.
More government is not the solution. Vote with your dollar, donât buy this crap.
@@Walkeranz completely agree. Added regulations on companies only end up being treated as additional overhead and passed on to the consumer
@@Walkeranz You can't vote for a candidate who's not on the ballot.
If they're ALL making crap like this, your choices are either buy the crap from _someone_ or go without. Which is fine if it's something like a TV, but a problem for something you actually rely on, like a phone or computer. Fortunately, we're not quite there with computers yet. Well, at least not with desktops. Laptops, I'm not so sure about. There certainly don't seem to be any with a decent keyboard, that's for sure.
No we need to stop this mindset of making the daddy government solve all our problems. How about people wake up and stop buying Apple's garbage? There's many reasons why people still buy Crapple computers but it's usually done by those who can afford to buy another if it breaks. So as long as those types of people keep buying apple will keep selling. We don't have to buy that crap, so let the dumbasses that do get fucked.
@@Walkeranz
That doesn't work. This philosophy is in every company now, for profit.
Government regulations are to ensure company motives still factor in non-profit ideas, such as pollution, consumer protections (companies would literally deny all returns if they could -- but are legally required to in circumstances), and various other reasons.
We need regulation to stop the wasteful philosophy that's spreading, and enforce that repair can be preserved to reduce needless waste, unnecessary reliability issues, and ensure the CUSTOMER has a product they can enjoy for long term, that they expect.
Honestly I don't know anything about board repair but the more I watch these (out of like pure fascination) the more I understand it. Thanks Lois! Also on your recommendation I got a ts100 so I can fix a few things around the house starting with replacing the switches on my son's gaming mouse.
Love these videos. Feels great to watch him straight annihilate the repair. So fast. So smart. So wise too. Love the small bits of knowledge you throw out there when your fixing something.
I mean listening to his comments about his college who was using the camera nice and friendly isnât something youâd apply to him.
Pretentious comes to mind
don't be a fget
@@morgitory
Thanks for sharing. As always, you are always entertaining.
Your videos are always a great part of my day. I always listen to them at work on weekdays. Sorry that today wasnât your day. One can only march ever onward.
I think reliability is part of a triangle with profit and features. You can only pick two. Apple has chosen features and profit while leaving out reliability. Thanks for fighting for repair- Iâll keep working from the inside to push for repairability in the electronics I design. Thanks Louis!
They also chose "thin and light" which isn't quite a "feature", but definitely comes with tradeoffs.
Iâve enjoyed your videos for some time, but I want to personally thank you for making this video. Iâve had one of these 16â MBPs for a little over a year. I was not aware of this particular failure. I now know not to leave any mission-critical data on it and I will make a new backup of its files shortly. That way if it dies on me I will only be furious at having blown over $2K on a bad machine rather than being apoplectic about irreparable data loss on top of that
Yup yup itâs really valuable for us to know to keep all important data on an external drive
You really had luck, which was not my case. Luckily the data I lost was not so important but the sudden death of my MacBook and no help from apple really frustrated me...
Definitely one of the greatest people on the internet and CZcams. Incredibly smart and seems to use it for good.
I like your sense of humor, plus I learned something. You've got ypurself a subscriber.
Still wondering why, this many years later, with the budget they have, Apple can't engineer a reliable product...
They can, but then you won't buy their devices new every other year
Oh they absolutely *can*.
Where is the motivation to make a better product? People are always willing to buy a new one.
What are you talkin' about? That lack of reliability is by design :-P. Aka, "That isn't a bug, it is a feature!"(tm).
nah people just use it wrong. :D
love how smart u are and how u dont stick around wasting our time with useless info, please keep making videos educating us, one day id love to work for u man
Really happy to see this video. Missed your explanations.
Also, the tip about listening for dropped screws.. BRILLIANT
I enjoy the board repair videos. Thanks for another great vid!
Don't get too down on yourself Louis. We've ALL at some point had a girl say that to us. Even if some of us don't care to admit it. And money comes and goes but your still always gonna be an awesome dude. Keep your spirits up and keep up thr great work. You do not go unnoticed
Mate good all time including the worst ones passes.. u are doing gods work here! Thanks
Tough ending man, i can relate, but honestly very educational demonstration, thank you!
So glad I read the comments. I'm not the only one wondering about the chairs covered in plastic and the date thing. My excuse for being out if the loop is that I don't even own Apple products so I don't watch all the videos on this channel.
It protects the stations
Yeah thank you for making this video. Early today I pick up my 13 inch MacBook from your store and was told by the front guy that it was not reparable. He explain some issues with the chips that communicate with the CPU. I was hoping for some form of clarification and I guess this video helps.
Can confirm this happened to me. A few months after getting my 16 inch it just would not turn on. Completely dead, sometimes id get a response from the trackpad but nothing. I dont live in the US but luckily on my next visit to the US I was still in warranty and got it replaced for free but it would have been $700+. I was so nervous about the repair too because it was sent to that infamous third party repair centre you talked about on this channel once, forgot the name.
Which model did u get: m1 pro/max or i9 2020?
Thanks for sharing the video. My wife just bought a 16â MacBook Pro. Iâll be sure to keep it backed up. That is a ridiculous design that they should fix. But instead of admitting it they blame the customer.
This comment is to say I DID get a notification...and to prod the algorithm.
Too funny, that's why I'm here too!
I appreciate when it takes mercy on me
I did NOT get a notification but checked my subs to see if new videos were live.
Me too
I just have my CZcams bookmark set to feed/subscriptions. Who needs push notifications when you can just pull the information yourself?
I love your pace and your very thorough understanding of the documentation and hardware. Very sad to learn that albeit the lost law suits, Apple continues their policy of denying newer hardware issues, blaming their customers instead. These laptops are really fast, but knowing that they and your dafa on it can become trash any second, is it worth it?
Great as always!
Hang tough Mr. Rossman, thank you for honest open content. You are appreciated sir.
Can't believe a less-than-3-year-old $3000 MacBook just fucks itself out of existence. I was considering buying an M2 powered MacBook for college but I've now been convinced otherwise.
God I wish I had the viable choice to use Logic Pro X on well built laptop hardware.
Buy a Thinkpad, a decent one, say an old t440s, and hackintosh macOS on it. Linux (I like MX these days, personally) on another partition and your done. The only mac I currently own is a 2008 macbook (unibody). With 8GB RAM and an SSD it surfs the web with High Sierra (dosdude1 patcher) just fine, and still gives me access to my old mac files. Otherwise its Linux for life.
@@imixmuan9081 I would really like to do that but i'm using so many modern CPU heavy plugins that I really do need the power of a newer CPU. Thinkpad would just cause too many hiccups and require insane latency to record without buffer overflows and clicks or pops. I've looked into the laptop hackintosh situation for years but sadly it's a really complicated mess I don't wanna deal with. I've done multiple desktop hacktinsoh setups and have hated the process each time. I can't imagine on laptop.
I wan considering an M1 max in a few years but now I'm very scared for my datađđđ
Donât overreact. Commenters make it sound like a huge percentage of Macs fail and destroy your data on purpose, but as he said, it was one revision of one particular model. I program for a living, and all one needs for data safety is a backup drive (super easy these days), and/or cloud backup (yeah it costs, but very little), all things people should be doing no matter what brand or model they choose. Wait another month and get the latest greatest Mac with all the ram and drive you can afford. Back it up daily or more often, and enjoy it for years to come.
I actually was given this machine at work, so it is nice to know how it can selfdestruct by taking out the SSD.
Wow, this video is classic Louis Rossmann !!! Love it.
good stuff, really appreciate your work sir.
Even if it has nothing specifically to do with Macbooks, have been watching your videos for many, many years and was able to fix a 17 year-old dishwashing machine at my elderly parents thinking âWhat would Louis or better, Paul doâ while working on it.
Same. Fixed my Sony Bravia LCD display. Turns out there was a tiny chip that was prone to failure, it would crack and render the whole screen powerless. I opened the back, found the broken chip and simply removed it. The screen now works fine. Did some research on a TV repair forum and acording to the professionals this problem accounts for 90% of the Sony Bravia LCD screen failures. One tiny useless chip that self destructs due to heat. I started looking for broken Sony Bravias after this and getting them for free and simply removing the broken chips and reselling the screens. Big money.
Was able to do the same for a washing machine control unit, can so much relate!
Even more, I started ranting like Louis when I found out online, that the problem in my case seem to be widespread, caused by some underspecified electronic components that this manufacturer group with several well known brands is putting on their control boards for decades now, that s.o. could suspect planned obsolescence.
I do not wanna know how many additional washing machines, dishwashers these guys sell per year because of this dying control boards, when can be fixed with some few cent components.
This number must be huge as Iâve seen people selling repair kits on ebay or even advertise âsend your board in, we send you back a working one same day directlyâ
Your channel was an inspiration to go buy myself a soldering iron and try to repair my shit. Nothing as complex as a computer, mostly my kids toys, and small appliances. The more complex I did was an hyperX headphone (that I improve buy installing a jack instead of just repairing the broken cord). My kid broken joycon would be in the future but I still need to improve my solder before doing those.
Louis, you are looking good. Healthier. Fitter. Whatever you are doing, keep going.
When I drop a small piece of a hardware or a plastic scale model part, I usually put my cheek on the ground, and I look for the part horizontally. Most people try to find these small parts by just looking at the floor from above, but it's almost impossible find that piece like that. Look horizontally, sometimes with one eye closed, and you'll find it. I had to use this method since my childhood because we had rugged floor at home, so I couldn't hear where the piece was falling to.
I own one of these. you scared the shit out of me and made me think whether i should be getting a macbook as the next device. So thanks for the nudge!
Get a Nas or just external hard drive and copy important data there. Or do a search for backup/recovery software if you want "automate once, forget until needed" approach.
Only time you'll lose valuable data is if both devices drown at same time.
The question is: how big is the budget and how disastrous financially it'll be to lose everything?
Also. There are free storages online like Google drive, Dropbox, ect that temporarily store and delete data if no requests are made to get it.
Therefore: there is free way of doing it and paid way. Look into both.
How about you sell it now to some Apple fanboy before it turns itself into a paperweight, and use the money to buy something that wont do that?
Time machine - set it up. That is, just plug a frigging external drive in and follow the prompts. They lead you by the nose.
Also get Backblaze - $50 a year and it continuously backs you up to the cloud. Do both! Holy shit, people practically have to go out of their way to loose data in this day and age :p
I've been looking into getting broken MacBooks to fix and sell. So far I'm looking for low risk eBay auctions where it's as easy as swapping a new display assembly or something like that where it won't be hard to turn a profit. Already had my first run with the A1932 and JUST WOW I cannot believe how much the aesthetics lie. I mean, I always knew these weren't my machines of choice, but there's so much more wrong about them. With a shiny finish and an expensive price tag you'd think you would be getting what you pay for - nope. Either way, I enjoy the experience. It's fun to problem solve when you get to learn something new and maybe make a buck doing it. Great fun.
Another great video! Thank you Sir.
Keep your head up Louis! You are such a badass ,and we all watch because we look up to you! Also, I hope you enjoyed that Everclear! You really deserve to get to unwind.
Whenever I dropped small parts on the floor, most of the time they seemed to just vanish from reality and I would have to find a replacement part.
But the next time or at some point later when I dropped something, again the part I just dropped vanished, but I would actually find the part I had dropped a few weeks earlier. Of course if I could see the part hit and bounce I usually could find it. I began to think these parts vanish into some other realm or dimension and can only be found after another part slips into that dimension as well.
This is so true⊠can verify
Louis- youâre right. Sound reflections account for about 40% of what we hear and this is responsible for most of our sense of equilibrium. So we have a strong spatial connection to that sense both consciously and subconsciously. If stay in an anechoic chamber for a while your inner ear wonât agree with what your eyes will tell you and youâll experience increasingly intense vertigo until your body is pretty sure youâve ingested poison. It wonât stop as soon as you leave the chamber. Itâll linger for a while, just like if you drank a bunch of Everclear and Fireball whiskey, because a bunch of alcohol messes with your inner ear as well. So good callback there.
Now thereâs a lot you can say about a gal reaching the conclusion that she knows enough to call it off before sheâs gotten to know you at all. And itâs all about her. Prejudice sucks for the person itâs directed at when theyâre in grade school. Youâre stuck with those kids to some degree. After grade school, you realize that someone like this has spent most of their life closed off from new experiences, new wisdom, cool, unique people, etc. Theyâre generally cynical, unhappy, and kinda lost because they donât have a great idea of what this world has for them.
It kinda sucks to be treated that way in the same sense it kinda sucks when someone cuts you off in traffic. But as an adult, we can appreciate that itâs a blessing when someone like that steers clear of us. Imagine this same gal had a positive bias towards what she knew about you, but inside was that same closed-minded individual. You couldâve spent weeks or months before finding out thatâs who she is. You couldâve been having dinner with the part of her she wanted you to see while missing your shot with someone really important. More and more these days, you see people on the internet shouting about how theyâre gonna stop all interaction with people who donât agree with their politics and I canât help but think ââŠfor free?â So have at least one in celebration. Youâre gonna have a better time venturing into the great unknown with someone who gets excited about the great unknown.
Louis, great job showcasing bad design, is there a video that will showcase good product decisions?
Since your brand relies heavily on Macbook repair, can you make a list or a video on the macbooks that are actually viable / or won't use footgun on themselves?
Cheers.
I must have the world's best luck. I still have every macbook I have ever purchased and they all still work just fine. I have replaced a few batteries and had to change one magsafe board (twice since the one I bought from your store originally was bad). Never had one die while it was my primary work laptop, which quite surprised me since I travel in the oilfield for a living and have been known to abuse them. Most of my older machines have several dents and bent corners but I have never had one die on me. I cannot say the same for PC laptops, which is why I finally switched to Macs, back in the days when a macbook only came in white.
Same here. Never an issue outside warranty. Most Macs are extremely reliable and much more so than any top end pc laptop. My company replaces our surface laptops on average once every year and half due to failures. Those âknownâ Mac issues are still relatively isolated.
Interesting, I've been wanting to switch to a 16inch MacBook M3 pro but now I'm scared lol what are my chances it will last in your best guess? I really want it, but I want it for like 10 years if I can...
Great video! So what is the most reliable MacBook you would recommend? Does the 14â suffer the same fate?
They probably make it on purpose like this
I had a date do the exact same thing to me but she also threw in a bone about how she saw me as objectively rather than subjectively bad looking. Really sucked at the time. This was months ago but I have to admit it felt comforting to know someone I respect a lot got the exact same thing.
What is the point in even telling someone that? If she felt that way, what agree to the date in the first place?
Well, Kant says that objective judgements of aesthetics are impossible, if it helps
@@gameworkerty A little, but what helps more is every girl who hits on me is always someone I used to consider âout of my leagueâ and every girl who calls me ugly is a girl I used to consider âin my leagueâ or âless attractive than meâ. Really put into perspective how complex attraction is
Maybe she was trying to make it sound better for you. Like saying these are my personal views on you, but theyâre not fact. Like just because I donât like you doesnât mean other girls donât.
@@DELL.ACNT. She phrased it in a way that implied it wasnât her personal view on me and the objective truth, and that I needed to date someone âless superficialâ than her. Definitely agree, but I also donât think I am superficially bad looking either
started blasting and finally got some sun. good for you man
I'm sorry to that you had to go through all of the things that you had to go through today. Hope things start looking up.
Wtf? A Louis Rossmann video finally showing up on my feed? It's only been 84 years.
It is like that from time to time.
"Near the village, the quiet village, the lion sleeps tonight." There's a slight chance a capacitor clamped that voltage by shorting quickly. Two ohms feels too low to be an in-chip failure, but Everclear works for the moment. Cheers.
Wow! Always good info learned here. I have avoided the 2019 MacBook Pro because I have seen same issues. We just steer people to other Macs that have minimal service issues.
Man I love your videos. Thank you