You own way too many EDH Decks... | DeckDriverMTG
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- Do you catch yourself pulling up to your LGS with 15+ decks, looking to play some games and then never playing all of them? Are there decks you've gone multiple months without playing? YOU my friend might have WAY too many decks in your line up! In this video I talk about how I went about fixing this problem and how you can solve it yourself!
Damn I haven't even started the video and I feel personally called out lol
Hahahah no worries, you really can have as many decks as you want! These are just my thoughts on it!
Dito! 😂
I had too many decks. Found myself playing some more than others but couldn’t bring myself to snuff any of my children. So I put every deck into a 200 count cardboard storage box. I marked the name of the deck on the bottom so I could limp them into categories but select a subcategory at random. This allowed me to bring a randomized group of decks from a certain category each play night. It forced me to actually play the decks which then allowed me to see that they needed work, or weren’t as fun as I was thinking in the abstract (absent actual play) and I would either decide I do like the deck and put the effort into it or I would take it apart.
So I can build two more to take its place.
The true heroes are the players with a single "slime against humanity" deck
I am in fact that hero. Tasigur slimes is all you need 😇
Omnichad behavior
@@cmgeorge1332 chad
Your moxfield nick?
@@devilproducoes5990 Mine is Cmgeorge20
I own 80 commander decks, I have been playing Commander for 12 years. I keep all my comamnders in a stack, I take the three off the top and bring those to the store, and last weeks go on the bottom. If I made a new deck, it gets added as one of the three. The rotation is roughly one powerful, one mid, and one testing deck.
I also run budget decks, spending no more than £2.50 per card, this way it keeps the cost down. The challenge is often remember enough about the decks enough to know when new cards come out what to upgrade.
But yes, it is a shame when I don't get to play a deck for almost a year :), however, I love getting to come across a deck I have not played in a while. Sometimes if I have made recent changes to a deck it will get shifted forwards in the rotation. I love all my decks bar one, which was made as a goodstuff deck to use up some powerful cards I hard lying around that never fit my more nich decks.
I like that system having them in a pile, as someone with also around the same amount i might start doing that
I love all 20 of my decks. I legit roll a D20 to decide which I’m playing with and never question the roll.
Are all 20 of your decks the exact same power level?
Doesn’t matter, fate decides the fate of my enemies
@rudixy7808 Fair enough! I like your approach, but carrying around 2000 cards every time I go to the LGS just sounds like a chore.
Same, but i only have 6 decks so d6
Love the approach, excellent flavor
I'm someone who can't handle playing the same deck twice. They say variety is the spice of life. Due to scheduling conflicts, I only play commander once every couple months for 2 to 3 games each session. Being a brewer at heart, I have 13 decks or so with varying vibes, despite being an esper heavy mage. Having started to log my games, I have found that, without trying, so far this year, I've used every deck in my arsenal at least once, not seeming to have any favorites. I'd love to carry around less cardboard and have resolved myself to finish up the last two decks im working on and not go past 15 total. Everyone has a number they can live with I'm hoping 15 is mine for my wallets sake.
2-3 games every couple months? Do you even play magic? For me it has to be like every week because otherwise the time between games is so long that im not able to fix my missplays and im a tryhard.
Deck Driver: I also can't afford to spend all this money on all these decks!
Me, who exclusively proxies: Am I a joke to you?
I just build stuff on archedekt and pretend lmao. Building is more fun than playing sometimes.
That's so real. It's so much fun building decks, and honestly I do this so me and some buds can play commander on Tabletop Sim since they live so far away
I think I spend more time crafting and drawing random hands imagining hypothetical turns than playing due to scheduling. If you have a pod of 4 understanding cheap leftists and you can always proxy 60 cards. If it's for 1 game. Or craft your own cards...
"This is the way." okay Mandalorian lol.
my older decks i only play like 2 or 3 times a year. i've already played them a ton.
It's weird seeing a comment from you in another channel I follow. 😂 Worlds colliding.
I really appreciate this topic. As someone who has 15+ decks I have been thinking about how some decks I don’t even play or run because I enjoy other decks more.
Same. I’ve gotta set down and take some apart. I made the Frodo Sauron’s bane with the Radabrask Boromir combo for infinite tempt triggers but much prefer the Sauron deck I’ve built with the ward sacrifice a legendary creature or artifact. Used to have a red blue pirates deck but took that apart and finally built a Krenko deck. 😅 got around 13-15 decks if we include my GFS she’s made.
I have 27 EDH decks that I accumulated over 8 years of playing magic. I like to pass my decks around when someone is looking for something of a certain playstyle and power level.
Although, I have about 8 preferred decks that I play more consistently over the others. Some are experiments that I don't intend to play much. I think there's nothing unusual to have a lot of decks, you just have to expect to play a certain number of them a lot more than some others. Diversity kept me from burning out from the game and for real, I think it's a better alternative than holding a lot of cards in a binder. These decks are often modified and sometimes deconstructed to build another one. Keeps me busy.
Wow! I do really like the idea of having extra decks to lend to other players or new players!
@@deckdriverMTG I know it's not something a lot of people likes. But if I know the guy at least somewhat I'm usually glad to do
I can confirm that having extra decks that you can hand out is great. It makes it easy to recruit bystanders into players. Wanna play a more high power game, but Steve only builds jank? Here, borrow mine! Same with a lower power game with a wandering cEDH player. Additionally, playing other people's decks will do more to align rule 0 expectations then a million games, and, as a bonus, if they win, you get to feel like a winner too because it was your deck that won.
@@ardinhelme687 Very well said. It's also nice for when someone within your regular pod doesn't have many decks and is tired to play what they have. Allows them to test new play styles.
This! For a long time, I supplied the decks for pretty much the whole table with friends that knew how to play but didn't want to buy in and it led to me getting to play way more often.
I have 6 decks and play d6 to choose among these major themes:
1. +1/+1 Counters (medium power)
2. Aristocrats (med)
3. Combo (high)
4. Stompy (high)
5. Control (low)
6. Go-wide (low)
I have 2 in each power level so I can choose accordingly if power level matters.
Actually deck driver. I will make 30 decks you can't stop me
The limit is your wallet
Been looking for a video like this for a while, I’ve felt the same way for years, being more intentional with your decisions makes them matter more. I find putting constraints and boundaries on yourself can be a very healthy thing.
I have a rotational cycle for my decks: I bring 4 at a time to each game night/day, the decks that lose go to the back of the cycle and the decks that win go to the front, not to be played next, but the subsequent time after the next time.
I do this and swap them out after they get some games or one just clicks
So you play decks that win more 😂
I understand the idea behind this video and agree withe the time being the main issue, but i want to raise some counterpoints to few of your points:
- shouldn't it be easy to track your expensive cards if you keep your deck lists online?
- if you don't want to buy multiple cards for different decks, then I propose you buy one and proxy it for other decks, I have seen people do that and I plan on doing so as well
I'm personally trying to make one deck for each color combination of 2 an 3 colors, but I may scrap some of them in the future
Why buy one? Just proxy.
as someone with 30 decks with more being worked on slowly your first point is a lot of work to type up every card in each deck. maybe if you started out by doing so as you built each one but then you also run into the issue of any time you update a deck in paper you then have to update it online.
as for your second point i do agree its an easy solution and many friends of mine do it. personally i dont but thats just me most i see do it if they have a lot of decks im just the odd ball with 30 and no proxies
I have a proxy binder with the real cards and put proxys in my real decks and use an app to track cards
@@cread13my problem with proxies. Is nobody EVER proxies commons and uncommons. Proxies are mainly used for the super duper game breaking cards people can’t afford. So then when they take these proxies and play against you. You’re losing against fake cards because they can’t afford the real deal. I’d have no problem with proxies if it was for say like a fetch land or shock. Lands have gotten infinitely cheaper since I started 10 years ago. The case becomes “well is it okay if I play with my power nine proxies mana crypt mana vault proxies? Is it alright that I proxy this 150-200$ card that makes my deck go two card infinite?”
It’s never “hey I would like to try out this deck so I proxied the commons to try it out!”
I’d be more accepting of proxies if this were the case. But it’s usually not.
@johnnoreau3570 I don't know if you didn't read the original point I was responding to but it's not just proxies of whatever you want to play with but proxies of cards they own but cand afford to buy dosens of copies of or want to have to switch between multiple decks. In my case I don't do it cause I either find decent alternative cards to run instead or just get another copy for the next deck. I play with people who do proxy cards so they can play there 1 copy between multiple decks and im fine with that. With what your talking about with proxies of any card I don't like that and won't play with people who do that. Magic has plenty of alternative versions of a card that you can easily find either cheaper option if the cards to expensive or just in general hard to find.
I agree, that's why I only have 3 commander decks so that I can play and use them more frequentley., thanks for posting this video., 👍💯
Totally agree with your video, on the other hand I just love to brew and build different styled decks (even with similar themes, but different strats/cards) and see them in action just as much as I like playing in general.
After a very long break my pod started playing again 2.5 years ago and since then I accumulated 52 decks 😅 (not counting the unmodified Universes Beyond precon sets which we use on special days for the whole pod). We manage around 20 games a month, so I obviously can't play them all in a timely manner, but for me personally it's actually refreshing to come back to a deck 3-4 months later and have some of the aha moments again. It's also fun to group decks together for a night by color identity e.g. bringing 3 Orzhov decks or 3 completely differently working tribal deck or just stack them by power level and start slow to the last game being an escalation (my group is mostly high power so it's fair, I would never pubstomp).
I have all my decks on Moxfield to keep track of which cards are where and the value of the decks and also to track future cards that should go into a deck when new sets come out, but I have just played a deck recently and won't revisit it for a while.
I am currently trying not to build another deck, even though I still have like 10 commanders in various stages in my future Commander folder 🙈. As they say where I come from: every crazy person is different 😂.
Thanks for making this video, I’ve been having similar thoughts about the number of decks I have but don’t have time to play.
I am such a perfectionist that I just have 2-5 decks alive at any time, I’m constantly deconstructing and switching things up trying to find the best version of an idea I’m brewing so it’s rare I’m ever playing the same commander for more than a couple months or even weeks. Lier, Disciple of the Drowned and Jon Irenicus, Shattered One are the only commanders that have become forever decks
Also PROXY UP a ton because my strategy wouldn’t be sustainable in the slightest otherwise
I agree on the account of just not realistically being able to play too many decks. Personally, I keep two decks active at any given time. One for casual (be it budget, powered, or otherwise) and the other for whatever cEDH deck I'm playing at the time.
It's made things very efficient to both bring around when I travel and decide on what I want to bring on a given day. If I want to swap one of the decks, I'll take them apart which is fine for me since I use the same sleeves for everything and I keep all of my deckbuilding stuff sleeved up. Keeps things easy to swap.
What is your template to build a deck? What strategies do you use to test a deck. Thank you in advance.
Recently been doing this cuz I’ve been having the not been able to play all of my decks problem lol this just reaffirmed me
I completely agree. I have 4 very different go-to decks (always ready to go) plus 6 on the side that are half built on paper but have a full decklist online. They mostly share a similar core for the utilities , I build and rebuild one or 2 those the night before I go for a game depending on the pod or the type of deck I feel like playing that day.
I only run 2 decks: self-mill Grolnok and dragon token generation with Miirym. I’ve always considered building more, but I often find myself going back to these two and thinking how I can improve them. My friends all have at least four or five decks, and already I see that a few of them rarely see use, some decks are just so much more fun then others and they rarely play the others. I’ve gone months without seeing certain decks from them, and mind you I play magic with these guys roughly 3-4 times a week. So while I don’t exactly relate to this problem, I can see exactly what you mean, sometimes less is more.
I have 5 decks that I've really grown attached to over the years and then I have like 2 flex decks that I'm just throwing random ideas together that I have and trying them out from my collection or just picking up a few things to get them off the ground it's been working well for me!
I have about 8 decks. And are split kind of like yours.
I have a few high power decks, some mid-high power are built around pet cards, and a few low-midrange decks that are janky or built around extreme restrictions.
But I also make sure I have a good spread of archetypes that I actually like to play, which has also helped me recognize which archetypes that I do or don't enjoy.
For my perspective I build decks for a semi-Chromatic Challenge (ignoring 4-color and WUBRG), and I focus on making the decks a 3/3 or 4/3 off of the EDH Multiverse guidelines while ignoring janky and cEDH. Make sure the deck is tuned enough that it could at least hang around with a cEDH deck, but also hold back while playing against a lower power pod. I also never take more than three decks with me to a game night while making sure at least one of them is something different.
Having said all that, there are some of my decks where I see cards that I forgot were in there, or I haven't piloted them quite as much and have forgot what could be helping in certain situations. I just roll with it though. I either get to see something 'new' again and get excited, or I can keep moxfield on hand to help skim for a card to search for (so long as my opponents are okay about it).
I've always had this desire to have constructed decks in every color combo, just for funsies. Even though I don't like all of my current 15ish constructed decks, some other players do like them, so I'll bring them as loaner decks in case someone wants to try it or if someone new happens to show up. It gives me the advantage of knowing what I'm up against and them the advantage of getting to play a nice deck without having to buy it.
I had like 12 decks + a few ongoing brews, but over the pandemic I took apart all but one (Karona Voltron) and built just three decks (Kykar Polymorph, Lyzolda and Selvala, Explorer Returned "activated-ability-tribal") from the remains. It was one of the best decisions I made in regard to MtG and I stuck to it till this day!
I find time to play all four of my decks, and the decks are able to play good at most tables that I encounter. I really enjoy every single deck and whenever something new comes up during spoiler season, I ask myself "will this be more fun than what I currently have"? So far the answer has been "no", but if it ever comes to it, I will take apart one deck, in favour of the new one. This lets me focus my recourses (money and time, to make sure that every deck gets updated) on the decks I actually enjoy and play. I also found out, that simply brewing online usually satisfies my urge for new decks - because in reality, most of the decks I would like to build would not bring me (or my playgroup) the enjoyment that I envision. Maybe I will go up to five decks one day, but the fifth deck will be a "Time Spiral block constructed" one, as this is my all-time favourite block and as such it would have a pretty interesting restriction.
My biggest “problem” is that i play in a meta where proxy is 100% legal, everything goes. And everyone proxies.
So i find myself building new decks and not taking old ones apart since i dont need the cards in them, since most of them are proxies. So no money factor and no “i need this card in another deck”-factor.
Im only limited in my amount of sleeves (and time lol).
How do you tackle that?
I think i have 10 ready to go but am building more. Although bc im a budget player, most of my decks are under 75$ which is roughly my monthly budget for magic. I do have two i kinda splurged on but part of that was I got gifted a case of Double Masters 2020 for my birthday and it ups the price for them. Them being the outliers, my wallet is mostly fine. Even including sleeves and deck boxes im usually not breaking the bank. But one thing u are right about is time. I can’t increase the amount of time i play. So i did tear down my stax-y decks and theft decks. (They’re disassembled but still currently unplayable) bc they take away time I or anyone else can play magic via tedium. I’ve been leaning towards aggro and away from control/ value engines so I can (hopefully) get in more games. And so far it’s been working. My deck building philosophy of budget + aggro has been giving me a decent experience and i think that helps more than having less variety to play. But to each their own.
45 decks and counting! The way I see it, if I make enough kindred decks, I get something new with EVERY new set!
Still waiting for a centaur commander that cares about centaur
I've had 50 at one point. I don't feel the need to use every deck every week. I'm more attached to the commander or the jank within
Tribal*
@@seanedgar164Yeah, sitting on 80 rn, with a graveyard of some 150 decks that I've scrappee, mainly because I'm attached to them, and it's easy enough to cycle through my decks as I track games, in the interest of becoming both a better brewer, player and opponent.
@@starvingboyinafrica9463whoa. That's culturally insensitive. You meant *typal
@@666cashley trigger
I agree with u I started playing in November I have gimbal , Hakbal , and pantlaza and now Breena cuz they all are very different! And I was gonna try and build other decks but then I realize they are similar to what I already have and I'm like instead of this I can get a strong ass card for another deck and make it more consistent
What are your 10 decks that you play?
I completely agree, i have 11 decks right now and i honestly feel like thats too many sometimes. Meanwhile i know people with 25+ decks together at one time, and they have some decks that have only gotten played once. Personally if i get bored of a strategy i just convert it too a new deck. Still keeps my collection fresh, but i never feel overwhelmed by choices.
I have completed the 32 challenge now all must suffer as I roll dice to figure out what to play.
I totally agree, too many decks, not enough time to play at all, so why even build them. I personally only stick to 5 decks (oloro, atraxa, windgrace, orvar, urabrask), and I have been playing for more than 10 years now. Every new set, I just look at the lists of potential cards to improve the decks, instead of building a new one every time.
I also find it more rewarding to fully master these 5 decks, even now, I am still discovering interactions between cards in the decks that I never thought of when building it, being able to learn the deck that way had really made me improve as a player. These 5 decks are all high powered, I just try hold back when I meet new players on the table, I don't really adjust the decks for other players, I just adjust my play patterns.
I'm building ~90 decks :) All of them with different startegies
Currently have ~32 decks playable. What I do is take 4 per day I go to play, and play all of them at least once. The next time, I take 4 that havent been taken out the the last 2 times I have played :)
90 decks?? Omg as a fellow brewer i respect a lot bro
@@fabioprieto9205 yeah, or more, idk hahaha most of them are pretty janky but fun to play
I personally just don't really care if I don't play a commander for awhile, I like the variety. I'm constantly breaking down & rebuilding decks, honestly the deck building is a much bigger part of the hobby for me. I like that I can turn up to my pod with something new every week to keep things fresh at the table
I think there is absolutely an upper limit to how many decks you can play effectively. When I was learning my play style I had 16 decks and more on Moxfield. Something I noticed was I started losing more, even with my high powered decks, because the more decks you have to remember (combo lines, play patterns, etc.) the less effectively you can play them.
Now, I have ten decks, a few which are reserved for low-power games, and I perform better with the decks I play more often, and because I have fewer decks that I must play everytime my group gets together, I play better.
I'm a big fan of the "shell" system. If you think about it most decks for example, Izzet have hundreds of interchangeable commanders that can all function off the same base deck shell (land ,artifacts, interaction, draw, combo pieces.) Or like in your video example Aristocrats. You can have a low power base shell and keep the high powered cards separated and swap them out in the low power deck 1 for 1 to change power up or down when needed.
Having played for about 10-15 years at this point, this is basically my strategy. I have about ten decks I regulalrly play - and try my best to deconstruct a deck or two if I want to build a new one. I've had my current roster for the past year or so, so maybe it's time for a change. Having said that, I also live abroad so have just as many decks at home, some of which I'd happily dissolve and others that are forever decks; these are mainly the first 2 decks I ever built or ones I particularly like/fill a particular niche.
that deck sorting thing is really something i need to do, so im gonna do it right now in a package on moxfield. i lightly thought about what deck types i owned but never really set myself to actively sort them
I currently have 11 decks, whicj i already find too many, 3 of those i have already slowly started to take apart, 2 of those are still work in progress and 3 or maybe 4 of those I play regularly
Great timing, I was just looking at my two Naya tokens decks and thinking if I'll keep both or just one. They are different takes on tokens, one is the new Ghired and the other is a Tana / Keleth deck (could be any white partner to be honest)
Probally gonna keep just Ghired
I owned 13 commander decks at one point. I really only play 1-4 times a month and my pod is pretty low powered so we only fit 2-3 games a night. It took me a while and I am down to 3 commander decks, all of which are budget POWERhouses, really helped me control my addiction to this game better
I have about 4 decks i play consistently and a precon i keep handy, but i have a bunch of back burner decks of decks ive played and took half apart for cards, and decks that are just cards i had lying around and wanted to try the commander out. I dont really commit to any deck that isnt dont consistently play and even then if i consistently play it i know i might eventually get sick of it.
A ton of players like to laude the 32 deck challenge as this apex achievement. But there's no way those decks are all seeing regular play, frequent updates, or even getting dusted off.
I remember some of the folks at edhrecast were tracking their play of their decks last year and had taken apart decks that they never reached for. These are folks where commander is their job and despite the hundreds of games they've played they still couldn't squeeze in a good number of games for all their decks.
Its something I struggle with too.
I currently have 14 deck put together, but I only take 3 or 4 with me to the lgs ranging in power from low to high power casual
I like theory crafting, building, buying, putting decks together more than actually playing so I don't mind having a ton of them. What I do tho to limit my spendings on cardboard crack and avoid redundancy is stick to ONE deck per colour combo so if I end up making say two token go wide themed decks they'll at least have different cards/play loop and I'll never have more than 32 decks. I do try to not have dupes of the same themes tho.
I'm at 4 irl decks two years into the game and although I like brewing, I'm not eager to build more beyond maybe 1 or 2 more this year if at all. Paper decks are an investment to me and 4 feels like the magic number rn for a range of playstyles and power levels. I got:
Low Power - Rakdos Goblins
High Power - Sultai Mill, Slivers
Jank - Dimir Exile
What I have thinking on doing to reduce the amount of decks and themes, is to brew my decks with "power level sideboards". Meaning: the deck has the same 30-40 staples + 35ish lands as the core deck, but then also build and carry with it another 50-60 cards that I can swap in with different power levels in mind: casual, high power, or cEDH. So the same core Shorikai deck can be a casual vehicles deck, or a cut-throat Humility/isorev/hullbreach horror cEDH deck.
Another thing is you can have one deck that’s good for two or more commanders. For example maybe you’ve got a brutal Niv-Mizzet deck focused round cheap instant and draw cards with a few infinite combos, you can play that deck with the locust god, or Rielle and they won’t be as powerful but the deck will still play pretty good.
They already teach us this in the precons, you can use the alternative commanders just fine, some are better.
A good way of depowering a deck is swapping from a value engine commander to a pay off commander. You’ve probably already got one in a value engine deck if you can just sub in.
Bruther i have two decks. Is this why people font know what their cards do?
A couple weeks ago, I made FIVE new decks between my magic nights. To be fair though, it was after OTJ prerelease and I got two commanders that I already had all of the cards for. Only one of the decks I built I had to buy any cards for to be fair.
I like keeping my decklists all sorted out and if I have a lot of overlap between two decks I'll have them in the same sleeves so I can freely move cards between the two decks if need be. I also only have like 5 commander decks and go through phases of theory crafting decks on deckstats and then not actually building them lol.
yep i have one of those stanley cases that holds up to a dozen decks. i dont let myself build more than i can fit in there.
I go to edh nights 2-3 times a week and currently own about 50 decks. I used to own around 10 decks like DeckDriver and move cards between them, but then I learned about proxies. Now I make 1-2 decks a month and just spend money on sleeves and deck boxes. The only real limit is storage for all the decks. Once my bookshelf at home is full I think I maybe might stop building, but I also might just buy another bookshelf
Me and my pod play with mostly proxied decks now - I beieve that the quality of games goes up with the amount of decks we have, and I feel no downside or remorse for not playing a proxied deck for a while.
Deck Driver MTG, I'd be curious to know how you decide when to take apart a particular deck?
There are many videos on deck building, but very few - if any - about when to take a deck apart, why to take it apart, etc.
I have 7 decks, and only play 4 or so hours of games a week. I still feel like I can't play them all.
I completely agree, I try to only build decks around unique themes, vorthos, or goofy effects. But there's just too many legends being printed that do the same thing, maybe as a weaker uncommon version or a stronger mythic version but its pretty rare when we get something like the turn ending Obeka or Yurlok and even then its pretty niche or people just go for the most min-max no-surprise build.
There's also a problem with WotC just railroading the effects a little too much especially on the precon-commanders. Like Kadena, Ur-Dragon, and shit like that... like huh, it's so specific I can't imagine what you've built... your Lathril is elf tribal, you don't say!!?
I feel like I've played against the exact same Edgar Markov deck at least a hundred times owned by a hundred different players. xD
Here I am with 2 Chatterfang decks
I noticed that my Chatterfang deck went from being about making Squirrels to swarm the board had a growing subtheme of combo, each tutor was cutting out stuff I put in to go very wide and the combos got more redundancy
I really like the combo aspect, especially since I realized a lot of them while playing the deck, but noticed I was kinda pulling in two directions when tuning the deck
So I split the deck, I had a handful of the important and expensive cards twice, so those, and proxied the rest, now I got a combo Squirrel and an overrun Squirrel deck, both see play and I love both
(I do have to make sure tk tell people that one of them contains no combos at all when seitching so they don't target me as badly when the bloodartist hits the board)
I go by a different route, I build 1 deck and have about 12-18 packages I can swap or add so that even if I have 1-3 decks It feels like 36-60+ decks.
i do the exact same thing except i only have 6 decks. 3 twin cases and each is at a different power level.
i do swap my weak brews a lot so i have all of my stuff in the same color, and in game genic dungeons. sometimes i also swap a weak brew out with my high power stuff but less often.
I love building decks, especially niche ones, I have more than 50 on Moxfield... I play a lot online, so I can test all of them and bring the ones I like more at the table :)
I currently have 31 decks. I am going to be taking one of the decks apart to keep it at 30. The box I have to transport all of them, comfortably holds 30 deck boxes, my playmats, dice, and counters all together. Mind you it is a bit heavy to lug around. My brother-in-law has 22 active decks. With a few still in the brew stages. And I definitely agree, in a single week, I am for sure not able to play all of my decks. To me that is okay. I have the option of playing so many different styles of games. Different power levels of the same style of deck. Recently we have started making token cards for each deck. Each token displays the commander, and the most basic description of what the decks game plan is. These tokens are then shuffled, and drawn to see what deck we are playing. Sometimes I end up playing his decks, and he plays mine. But this allows both of us not to just pick our favorite deck and just auto pilot the deck. Makes it a new puzzle every single game. Where you have to piece together the win.
Oh jeeze. I need to pare my collection down. Is 40+ too many?
Despite the fact this video is a day old (as of this comment), I felt like this video was astral projected to me from the future. At some point I realized that I spent so much on sleeves, boxes, and individual decks, that I could have gotten into other formats. Which is whatI did (pauper, legacy). So I’ve since downsized to 2 decks that I still barely play.
I have hit the sweet spot of about 8 decks (because that's what fits in my bag) plus a suite of edh decks with a budget of $10 i bring to lower power tables. All of them see enough sun to be remembered, especially since some of the decks are too mean to play over and over
It takes me months to play thru my deck.
My number i maintain is 25 and follow a similar suite low mid high n cedh . Its a chore.
I was already considering reducing how many decks I have just to concentrate the power of my decks in fewer of them
I have 20 decks, that im always constantly changing always temper and improve. I actually play all of them because i like to have a deck for any scenario. 20 deck is actually a good amount. Because you have the versatility to adapt to most matchup. Also its good to have extra decks incase other ppl wanted to play or get into magic. I have a big family so its a “better to be safe than sorry” approach to the game. but i think its more fun to be a swift army knife than to constantly be playing the same deck and doing the same thing over and over like that Go-shintai type thing. I prefer like impulse draw or decks that dont play the same and play different every single time.
Verbatim my scenario with the Thursdays 5-10pm games.
I own 40 in paper decks. MidPower to HighPower for the most part, and some cEDH.
On Moxfield I have 400 decks. Of those 400, 40 are in the work bench, 110 in the potential future builds.
Since I proxy 100%, the money isn't an issue. A deck costs me around $20-30 tops to print.
I definitely try to avoid having multiple decks that use the same subtype. I've been using a wheel of fortune app that determines the 5 decks I bring with me to my LGS every Thursday. I try to avoid repeats, and make slight adjustments only if the wheel picked all high power decks. The 6th deck I bring with is almost always cEDH, or a budget deck, depending on how many people from my usual pod shows up.
I did this recently with my Omnath (Locus of All) and Ixhel deck, so now I have a 5 color Toxic deck with a crazy good engine commander (that doesn't usually get targeted cause it doesn't add to the strategy besides for mana storage and card draw)
Very creative way of solving things!
Man am I being called out, with my like 50 decks that are either precon or built by me and are still together or being taken apart for other decks. I was considering lowering mine to 30 and now after watching this I might have to go even lower 😂
I decided to cap myself at 12 decks. I like to tinker on them by either adding jank or new cards. When I and/or my playgroup gets bored of a deck, I take it apart and build a new one.
So I have 6 decks and I haven’t built anymore.
I run 1 of each mono color, and then a WUBRG deck. They all fit different power levels of niches.
Emry, artifact combo - CEDH-(ish)
Sheoldred, the apocalypse, Wheel / slugs - 8
Light paws, Voltron/Pillowfort - 7
Norin the wary, ETB shenanigans-6
Shizuko, Group hugs - 5
Sliver overlord, tribal - 8
I’d rather have a small collection of decks I’ve invested a lot of time in learning and playing.
And my rule is, if I want to build a new one, I need to deconstruct an old one.
I was considering to amend the rule to allow for one pre con deck with no changes, just for really low power tables, I’ve been defaulting to shizuko, or norin for those tables, norin has a pretty low amount of interaction, and the interaction shizuko runs usually has benefits for everyone interaction.
But just because the plans are still well defined I find they can be a little overwhelming to pre con tables.
Any time I think of making a new deck I quickly learn it wouldn't be different enough from something I already got to really bother.
Doesn't help I mostly play Rakdos colors
I started to play magic in February, got 4 commander decks now. Precon(hobbits unchanged) and then a nazgul recursion deck i changed a lot over the months learning the game. Then an atla pop-off egg deck, and now recently i made a mothman rad/counter/mill deck. Currently i feel this is enough for me. I want strong themes around my decks, or im not gona like them. I dont do cedh, so il never try to go over 5-6 decks i think. I Aldo keep them updated 100% accurate on archidekt.
I know not everyone feels the same as I do, but I feel 20 is still a manageable number. That’s all without playing cEDH. I have multiple decks that play at every level aside from hyper competitive. My limiting factor is color combination, I have all of the three colors, most of the guilds, and a consistent 5-color deck. This limitation has kept me from building out of control and really makes me think about the commander and that of deck that I play. While I may have certain themes that cross over each one is built in a unique way that better fits into a niche that makes me ready for almost any table I sit down to. Sure I have some decks that see a lot more play than others the ones that don’t see as much are just strategies that only match certain pods. If and when I start to feel a deck has hit its wall of not seeing play in too long I will reevaluate whether it still has a place in my cases and will start looking for replacements, but if I have sleeves then I’ll have a deck to fill them. I also tend to be the most experienced player at the table and will always lend out builds to newer players to experience different types of play styles that their precons or “safety net” easier commanders haven’t let them experience yet
Idk feels wrong not using the sleeves for something.
Yes. I have 32 casual decks, one for each color combination.
Where this goes from “too much” to “that’s it?” is:
* there are only roughly 550~ unique cards across 32 decks
* deck strategies are shared with a similar deckbuilding process and card pool
* I move cards between decks to avoid buying multiple key cards, and in places where possible, I use proxies to avoid switching. The original cards are kept in a box sorted by color, cmc, then alphabetical order to show that I own the card in question.
Making graphs in Excel and playtesting on Moxfield for six months or more before sleeving up the deck, I’ve come to tables where I know more about a deck I haven’t even shuffled than opponents know and can explain about their own. My decks aren’t being made or replaced by FOMO from hot, new commanders.
I have done this for years now. 9 decks are my limit. If I want to make a new one an old one that lost too many times or became boring must be taken out. What I like doing is putting my list online so I have a reference for later to make it again
I have a max powered, a super salty, a high powered, and a mid powered. I spend so much time tuning my decks that I usually tune them right into the never again pile lol. I get to play so rarely that it doesn't make sense to have a ton of decks, or have decks that don't have at least a certain level of power and synergy. My best deck isn't exactly cedh, but if cedh was a different format it would be a 10 in casual lol.
my limit is 15, I always have between 10 to 15 and with time some of them become staples of my rotation 🧚✨ I choose 3 or 4 to play each week, and we have an average of 3-5 plays a week. Also, 8 of my decks have more than 2 years with me, and I just upgrade cards in them if a good option appear or if I wamt to bling them further
I actually built 45 paper decks over the past 1 year of returning to playing magic because I just love deckbuilding. Tough on the budget, but like some have mentioned; the benefits are:
1) Being able to play with different pods and match their power levels, from precon - CEDH. makes for a better play experience for all.
2) Diversity enriches my play experience. If i kept to the same few decks I probably will lose interest very quickly. But with my decks, I can play anything from tribal, politics, control, jank, snowball-ish type decks, graveyard, combo, etc. It has kept me interested in the game so far.
3) I also built 2 community decks and put it in my LGS for anyone who is new to the game to pick up and play. I lend out my other decks for anyone who wants to balance their own power levels with the pod. I have this guy who only has CEDH and High decks - I lend him quite often to balance things out.
4) Last of all, my LGS has a locker service that I keep most of my decks in. Saves me the trouble of bringing it in all the time. Great business idea for LGS-es for extra revenue :)
Right in the heart, i have this problem
I have too many decks, and I get to play once a week at most. I rotate, sure, leaving behind what I played last week so I'm not carrying them all, but... I really do need to trim back.
I admit, janky budget weird stuff at least helps keep the cost down.
I will say that diminishing returns do kick in the more decks you have, but also I will say that having more is not worse than having less.
At absolute worst, when you pass a certain point it's no different.
Current deck count is 21 & I'm pretty much operating a "dead man's boots" system at this point (for a new deck to be built an existing deck must be broken down). 21 is a lot, & there is a reason: I am running all of the 2 colour combinations & all of the 3 colour combinations... plus a singular mono colour deck which I love & never plan to disassemble.
Split is
3 high
8 mid/high
7 mid/low
3 precon (I don't actually buy precons, but those are aimed at that level)
(I don't usually go anywhere near Cedh, but on the rare occasions when pods start edging towards that, the high power decks can usually hang.)
Do I have favourites? Hell yeah
Are there decks I haven't played in a while? Yep, & I'm okay with that.
Do I bring all my decks with me? Pretty much never.
If I'm going for a Commander night I'll pre-select a number of decks (typically between 4 & 7, depending on available space) and bring those.
As previously stated some decks don't get played very often. It's usually one of two reasons: either 1) for whatever reason I'm not vibing with the deck anymore (which means I'm looking to replace it in the near(ish) future, or 2) I like to break the deck out sparingly because it can be a little bit nasty (& whilst I enjoy having the deck, I don't want to expose people to it on a frequent basis).
Have I got too many decks? Very possibly. Is it a problem? I don't think so.
I find myself making a deck on moxfield to save the build somewhere and then I tear them apart when I get bored and make my a better more interesting deck
i have about 30 commander decks 1 that barely sees play cause i rarely geta cedh pod and 1 that sees more play then the rest cause its my favorite which is bad artifacts its also my lowest power deck
I have 1 of each color, 1 colorless, and 1 five color. Each plays super different and have a lot of color staples I don't play in any other decks. Super Super fun
Yes, I own 13 decks. But I do also have frens to share decks with. Sometimes the whole table can make use of my arsenal. So cant see any trouble.
So you’re telling me to make 10 aristocrat decks? Mission received.
I have upwards of 35 commander decks that I've accumulated over the course of my magic career. Its gotten to the point that i legitimately forget that i own a few of them. Most of them started as precons that I've just updated every few months.
I keep them in sets of three with power levels ranging from precons to the edge of cedh, and i bring 2 "sets" of them with me every week to my lgs. Even at a rate of 6 decks per week, I still can't play all of them in a month, but i still buy more and more.
Cardboard crack indeed.
Three weeks ago I had 69 decks. I had 68 and wanted to stop but my buddies told me I had to make one more. I enjoy throwing together budget decks and selling them off to someone to make upgrades on
I currently own six Commander decks and I typically get to play 3 - 4 of them per week.
How many times does he say decks?
Watched the first minute, and you have somehow defined me as a person…. Personally
Less the deck issues, just as a mtg player lol