FORCE FEEDBACK SETTINGS EXPLAINED - How to get the Best Force Feedback from any Fanatec Wheel
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- čas přidán 22. 07. 2024
- Whether it be CSL Elite, ClubSport Wheelbase or DD1/DD2, every day there are countless threads created asking what settings are best for Fanatec wheels.
The reality is there are no "best settings", what feels great to one person may feel completely wrong to the next. Let's face it, very few of us have actually been lucky enough to drive our favourite sim cars in the real world.
So the aim of today's video is to arm you with everything you need to know to fine tune your Fanatec wheel to your personal taste to get the best possible performance and enjoyment.
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Great walkthrough as always, Will. I returned to this vid now that I've gotten my Formula V2 to brush up on the ffb settings.
In case it helps anyone struggling with the Multi-Position Switches (the big dials lower on the wheel) in ACC ... I found that I had to use Pulse mode instead of Constant mode for ACC to properly bind specific values to each position (e.g, making position 2 always equal Engine Map 2). Constant mode behaved erratically, Pulse works perfectly. Cheers!
Awesome video, came back and watched again after owning the wheel for a few months and it was just what I needed.
Just come across this, great video! I had never used the dynamic settings, made a massive difference
Thanks for your help, only started racing yesterday, this video shaved 5 seconds of the least scruffy lap I've done so far :)
Not sure if this is still relevant today, as I haven’t setup yet. It’s given me a good learning base to build upon.
Other than Dynamic FFB, this is the best explanation I’ve found on tuning. Thanks!
Hi Will,
Thanks for an interesting & informative video.
Very timely indeed for me too. My Fanatec Clubsport Wheelbase & pedals etc. have just arrived and my SimLabs cockpit is on order (probably 4 weeks before that arrives), so before long I will be getting stuck into all this set up stuff. Looking forward to it very much but for a raw beginner like me the amount of 'tech admin' is pretty daunting. Having a clear walk-through guide like this will be enormously helpful. Thank you!
It's funny that you provide better customer service than the company itself
No kidding! So glad I found this video
I’ve had no issues with fanatec in any way shape or form and I even ordered some stuff this month already came and loving it so ppl who think there a scam or suck you have to remember right now we’re in the middle of a covid pandemic and fanatec US is located in LA the worst hit county in the US by COVID-19 so that’s why things are slow atm it’s not there fault there’s a pandemic going on, unless your trumpy’s and don’t believe in covid
@@atticushexcel9567 Fanatec is one of the few companies I actually haven't had any issues with. Their responses are always timely and on point, and I've never been left hanging for anything.
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Smokey Eunich, Fanatec's penchant for bad customer service predates lockdowns, by years. All the boosters and masks have cut off the circulation to your brain.
Well done....great information and well presented, helped me immensely. Thank you!
New to DD1, this was really helping. Thanks!
Sweet, was just going to ask for this in the comments on the last video. Thanks!
You’re so clear and helpful in all of your vids man !
You wouldn't believe how long I've been looking for this video. Still relevant for DD Pro for anyone wondering but PEAK on does feel better for this lower 8nm rated unit.
Thanks for taking the time to make these videos sir.
Always love your content, everything we need to know 💪😎👍
Thank you very much for making this video. Answered all the questions i had and helped me loads
Time and time again this channel is a go to for advice but tonight this video alone got me back on track within 10 minutes.
I do not own a wheel. What he mentioned about software clipping is applicable to me using a mixamp ( external sound card ) with a headset. I keep my headset volume max and adjust the mixamp accordingly. I do recieve distortion. I changed the headset volume to 60 and my audio is far more refined. Thank you for the general knowledge.
Just started playing with reducing the osolation on my DD pro in ACC on the ps5. I got rid of it but lost so much detail. This helped alot with working out why so back to the drawing board
Very informative. Thank you very much for sharing your expertise.
You must be clairvoyant because I received my new Fanatec CSL Elite (PS4) 2 days ago and I've been finetuning and testing it for 2 days now!
Thing is...you don't have to. You can...and on most other wheels, you're just not able to.
Thanks for this incredibly helpful video!!
Thanks my brother from aus this video helped me alot! Liked and Subbed! Quick question. I have CSL DD 8NM. Should i be using a LUT in assetto corsa for drifting or just setup fanalab and thats all?
awesome content as always
Great Video BM. These are my DD1 settings for ACC: Fanalab in order SEN 1080, FF 100, LIN 0, NDP 4, NFR 0, NIN 0, INT 0, FEI 80, FDR 100, SPR 0, DRP 0, ABS 90, SHO 100, MPS Auto, BFR 90
ACC In Game gain force 12 or 13
ACC in Game gain of 12 or 13 is bad because you lose 87 or even 88% of the FFB resolution coming from the game. Best is to set it to around 60 and then adjust the rest in the tuning menu to get your desired FFB strength.
NDP 4 is also a bit low and should feel very loose and therefore unrealistic...
Also INT 0 is extremely bad, how can you really drive that way? It feels horrible, like there is sand in the wheel... You need AT LEAST INT 1 in ACC..
FINALLY someone who explains the miracle about software Clipping right!
DD users indeed should set a max in Game gain of 70 to avoid this software Clipping (at least in AC and ACC and AMS2).
However, I personally don't agree with the Linearity part, I like it much more to leave Linearity Off which is also the recommended setting from Fanatec and therefore the default value.
Regarding Spring, only game which uses this in Game is Forza. No other game uses SPR, so it doesn't matter if you set it to 100 or OFF. Other games like AMS2 and pC2 use SPR but only in the game menu, not while driving.
More or less the same for DPR which also isn't used by many games, therefore NDP is the Nr 1 way to go to add Damping to the steering.
Linearity is actually the other way round, it limits max torque if turned on -> I do not use it. It alters the original FFB which you do not want, unless you really suffer of oscillation or other unwanted effects. At least in iRacing - NOT recommended.
Interpolation: again, strongly disagree, 8 is far too high and smoothens the FFB too much. 3-5 is enough (I think default is 5 and was fixed in earlier firmware versions)
@@iseeq72 Default for INT is 6 and feels how the FFB felt before implementation of INT. Especially in iRacing its recommended to set it slightly higher than usual because of their super old outdated 60 Hz refresh rate, so 6-8 is perfect for that game. In other games 3-4 indeed is better, but not really for iRacing as iRacing is much too harsh with a low INT, especially combined with FEI 100 which is also better to lower to 90 or even 80.
Linearity is true, it limits a DD1 to Peaks of 15Nm and a DD2 to Peaks of 20Nm (so basically to the holding Torque values of each base). However, in the iRacing options this has to be set to on, but it's not recommended to set it also to on in the tuning menu.
However, in the end FFB is highly personal and there is no right or wrong, if you are happy with a harsher FFB with INT 3 then go for it :)
The majority however will be happier with a smoother FFB in iRacing I think.
@@iseeq72 I use a Fanatec CSL Elite F1 PS4 and I drive in ACC... mine does oscillate a lot what I don’t like. I use the last beta driver of Fanatec. If I turn down ‘gain’ in ACC then my F1 wheel doesn’t oscillate but it is much to light for my liking... Do you know what the problem is ? Any solutions ? Thanks in advance
Hi Will! Great video thanks! I just got my DD1. I am running ACC ffb 60 in game and ffb 80 on wheel base. Would that cause any sort of clipping on wither end?
Hi how are you? Do you recommend having the 365 driver to obtain fanalab? . My current configuration is with driver 346 motor 20. My steering wheel is Fanatec csl elite +. thanks and greetings from Uruguay.
Great Video Will. But I still in doubt with something: The ACC already has a slider for Dynamic Damping. Would it therefore be redundant or inappropriate to enable Dynamic FFB in Fanalab, already using, for example, 100% in Dynamic Damping within the ACC? Tks in advance and congratulations for the great channel.
do you find the vibration motors in the steering wheels gimmicky as well? a lot of the wheels i like don't have vibration motors and wondering if it actually makes a difference
Where can I Find your recomended settings for AC, ACC/ F122 etc? a great walkthrough. Really apperciated to learn more about what each setting does for my DD1 :)
Hi, i'm in disaccord on your comparison of DD force feedback strength with an audio pre-amplifier
because while in the pre-amplifier an audio signal is processed, here a mechanical signal (a force) is processed that has nothing to do with the classic distortion produced by an hifi system.
If you set the base to 100% and in the game you adjust the ffb to an intermediate value (therefore not to its maximum) you get the same desired effect with the difference that you will not have to adjust the base settings game x game but you just have to set everything in every single game.
In this way (i.e. by setting the FFB on the engine to 100%) you are fully exploiting the potential of your base regardless of its torque force.
If you consider the DD motor as a pre-amplifier then it is right to amplify even the smallest detail to its maximum potential (100%) and then adjust it with the amplifier (the game settings FFB) to decide the intensity you prefer.
If not, it wouldn't make sense to prefer a DD2 to a DD1, right? I may be wrong but this is my opinion ;-)
perfect timing Will! hopefully receive my rig next week for dd1 wheelbase..
I just went full Fanatec and purchased the gamut! I have a DD2 wheel base. At the end of the video are all of the tuning settings & dynamic FFB settings the ones you use on a daily basis? I am comfortable making changes within iRacing for each vehicle but I am trying to take the guess work out of the driver settings. Would it be possible for you to share your baseline tuning setting & dynamic FFB settings? I am stoked to get started with my new sim hardware but I want to jump in & not mess around in a settings menu. Or DM them to me if possible.
Software clipping doesn't depend on the wheel base. Whether you have a direct drive wheel or a belt driven one, software clipping can occur regardless of the base connected to your PC. The clipping of the base is harder to detect if you have a low end base as a consequence of its low strength.
Finally, when you suggest to switch off linearity for belt driven wheels, be informed that the CSW and CSL do not even have this setting available.
Which setting can have a better clif to feel countersteer ? Like i almost want the wheel to self center
Have you done one on the vibration settings for Fanalab - I think I'm not getting the best settings of this software / v3 pedals. Cheers.
Any idea why I don't have the same adjustments you have? I only have 9 total adjustments in the tuning menu on fanalab. I'm using V1.53
Great video thanks it has helped a lot.
I love these videos thanks for making one it made my experience with Fanatec gear better
Life saver.. Very well done.. Thanks heaps..
As CSL DD has only 8Nm, what would be the suggestion for Peak/Linear choose?🤔
Could you do video on force feedback settings for dd pro 5nm on gt7. I just ordered dd pro and should be here in a week. And do I need to do update firmware or can you just plug in and play??
I use the csl dd for beam mg and mostly rally is it ok for clipping to happen around corners sometimes and clipping when landing a jump and it is super shaky when flying across rough terrain I’m new to direct drives not sure what it’s supposed to do
I'm on the csl elite and in assetto corsa if I let the wheel go while driving straight or drifting itll oscillate. I adjust the wheel and game ffb to 100% and adjust ffb per car on the track
If you're talking about peak and linearity. If you have the csl dd. What do you recommend, peak or linearity? Since the csl dd has like 5Nm without the boost kit. And in this video you're talking about the dd1 etc.
Any chance you can do an updated video covering CSL DD settings. Im unsure if the CSL DD has a wide enough range to keep FFB strong enough when using linear
Honestly try it for yourself it's as easy as opening a practice session in your favourite game and switching through toggle on and off. For me in ACC I'd say peak feels much better. Linear seemed to remove a lot of detail and feedback you'd get from the road and curbs made the wheel feel very muted.
What's the deal using the fanatec podium in ps5 in relation to being able to set up ffb etc... can I use adjust thru pc then connect to ps5?
I don't understand why my Fanlabs software is not showing anything under tuning menu. I see device setup 1, 2, 3,4,5 under podium wheel base DD1 nothing is there and under steering wheel I see the MPS setting that is it
Thank you for making this video's !
Can I leave the FFB on the wheelbase on 100% and set the FFB in game? Or should I lower the FFB on the wheelbase as well?
Amazing video thank you. I have the DD1 Podium and drive on F1 games. Just wanted to understand exactly what each setting does for me to know how to adjust accordingly. Anyone here by the way who plays F1 22 and has a DD1 wheel setting to compare?
Using the Podium DD base, will Fanalb work when using a 3rd party wheel (Simagic, GSI, etc)?
What brackets are you using for fixing your DD Wheelbase to your Rig?
What mic are you using here? Thats not the RØDE NTG4 you were showing off in another video. Oh...nice video by the way, very interesting!
Would anyone know which full wheels are compatible with high torque DD Podium please? As I understand it needs to have a QR (not sure which) but the high torque doesn’t work with some wheels which are QR.. (makes sense, not!).. So which ones do I have no idea and I don’t like the F1 style wheels so looking at a full one.. if anyone could point me in the right direction that’d greatly appreciated! Thanks
One thing I'd like to see in this video is an approach of "here is a problem" - here is a setting go change to resolve it.
E.g. what you said with how to address issues with oscillation.
I find my csw impossible to release in straight line in any car. It goes to a wall almost instantly because of oscillation.
I found that setting the in-game steering dead zone to 1 alleviates this issue but for my taste makes the wheel too soft in a straight line. Kinda like being in the eye of the hurricane, calm & at peace, yet still scary!
I have also oscillation problem just like you described but on my CSL Elite F1 PS4 and on ACC
please tell me what to do if I accidentally turned off the engineer's help? how to get it back?
really helped me Will thanks very much
why cant fanatec csl elite users access the tuning menu on fanalab. my led lights on my wheel rim are broke and i cant see my settings lol
Sup mate! Thanks again!!
Happy New Year Merry Christmas to all I have today DD oneF one for PlayStation five and I have bought F1 2021 game please can you guide me for the best tuning to put on my steering wheel thank you very much
Does anyone know how to get the shifter sq v1.5 to work with Assetto Corsa on xbox?
Also is ITM gone now ?? mine doesnt have that menu item
Anyone would know how to switch a DD Podium to PC mode to upgrade the software (from PS to PC mode) with a CSL P1 wheel ? As someone said better advice here than on the actual manufacturer’ side so I thought I might ask! Thanks !
Hey Will, could you do one of these videos for the new Logitech G pro DD
Hi Will can you do a FFB set up for Logitech G Pro racing wheel keep up the good work👍
Good morning I hope you are okay amazing video but do anybody have a good tuning set up for F1 2021 game for dd2 please?
Thank you very much my regards to all of you
Amazing content. 2 years later, still referencing..... 🙂
Hey Will. Thanks for all the content you post. I’ve just got a new DD1. Have updated drivers and fans lab to latest versions, however the tuning options on the wheel haven’t changed, and show less options than fanalab does. Does this mean the wheels firmware hasn’t been updated?
Yep need to have the correct firmware.
@@boostedmedia thanks for replying man. After a few of your other videos I worked everything out. Thank god you do what you do. Cheers
can you update the video with v1.53 or later?
I've noticed on ACC with my CDL elite the ffb weight is drastically different from track to track. Paul Richard is so much lighter than say spa. It's so dramatic that I actually go through the menus trying to see if I had accidentally changed something
@Alex Schmidt Could you solve it ? I really don’t like the light steering feeling
SAME
Thanks for the video and clarification of the settings. The wheel base drop down selection does not show up in my tunning menu in fanalabs. Also, my DD1 wheel base name does not show up on this screen but does in the Main menu. This issue only came up when I moved from formula v2 to the porsche wheel. Anyone else have this issue and if so any luck in resolving this?
just got a solution on the fanatec website, my base was version 1 rather than version 2 and there is a newer fanalab version 1.24 - just in case anyone had the same issue.
Can you tell me why I have this Hump at the center of my steering at higher speeds, and the wheel accelerates left or rt past center ?
Turning down FFB seems to help but not fully, and I like the higher setting of FFB.
Using CSL DD with AMS1 and AC.
Also I note that the idea of FANALAB is to load up to 5 profiles to the wheel when starting a game. The problem is that there is no intuitive way to know that you have to select the SET # in Tuning menu - Then create a profile... its just weird. SETUP Index value seems to correlate to SET # on the wheel. You should be able to edit the Index # when creating a profile yeah ! Great stuff, but users need to review with designers at each step.
This is driving me to drink !
First of all I am a big fan of your channel and your enthusiasm. Really enjoy all of your content and hope you continue long into the future. My question is sort of philosophical in nature and relates to your statement that there aren't any "best" settings. I don't totally agree, because if the goal of the settings is to 'simulate' reality, then whatever gets closest to that would be ideal. In real life there is only one way that a car will feel (with a given setup: aero, suspension, tire pressures, etc.). But on the sim, cars with the same in-game setup can be made to feel vastly different based on FFB and other wheel/pedal settings. Maybe it's a question of semantics or you can otherwise convince me I'm wrong, but it seems like if realism is the goal that there would in fact be one set of "best" settings. I understand that to some extent some sim racers will prefer certain settings that might make them a faster sim driver even if that comes at the expense of realism, but for me I would always prefer the most realistic experience and immersion possible. Any thoughts?
I agree but the reality is you’d then have to tune the settings for every single individual car, and not many of us have driven every car in real life to establish a point of reference. Hence “best” being subjective. Is best “most realistic” or “fastest”, that’s up to each individual.
Nice vid! I just got the DD1. Should the WHEEL FORCE in game (= Iracing) be 20Nm or 14Nm (=20x0,7) if my Overall FFB Strengt is set to 70% in the Fanalab tuning menu?
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Thanks mate. Glad we’re helping :)
For real. You’ve answered more questions for me than Reddit. Keep that shit up
Ty. Good stuff as always.
Great video, I have one question. If I set the DD1 to [LIN] ON do I also need to turn on Linearity in iRacing settings? Thanks
Yes, turn on in both locations.
@@boostedmedia love the channel buddy. Thank you so much for the quick response!
I think you have linearity mixed up, normally your right you keep it on like in iracing and a dd wheelbase. But in fanalab when its on it compresses the ffb curve to boost weak forces, surly then you would wana keep it off for dd wheelbases. Can you please clarify.
Not really, linearity on just makes sure that torque is aligned with the continuous holding toque instead of to peak torque which can be affected by load over time.
But only comes into play if your are overpowering such a strong DD. Which would be "unusual". Especially if peaks are used only in max power scenarios like crash effects etc.
Clearer now? ;-)
great video, question, i have the podium paddles but on fanalab i don't have the advance paddle settings showing to do the clutch bite point. where can i find this
Which wheel do you use? It's only available on wheels where you don't control this through a middle MPS knob.
@@momorious formula v2, ya i have the control on the middle knob
@@frankconte264 that knob controls the Podium Paddles and is the reason why you don't have that option in the Tuning Menu.
Hey Boosted Media in regards to what you said about the linearity setting with belt driven wheels.. I use a Thrustmaster T-GT for iRacing and i am now wondering if I should have the linear mode setting, in iRacing turned on or off? There is no linearity setting in the Thrustmaster drivers.. Thanks you
TS-PC is too weak and should have Linearity disabled in the iRacing options.
momorious thanks mate
Hey great channel. Quick question I know you like VR but when you are doing your more serious league sim racing do you use VR or do you rely on your triple screen setup?
I use triples almost exclusively again now simply because it’s better for content creation. Otherwise I’d probably be using VR almost all the time.
Boosted Media cool but how do you manage pressing the various buttons on your rig?
@@mpmarvin999 thats the neat part. You don't
Thank you 👍
There is a DRI-setting ("drift") on the CSL elite, could you explain with your magic words how this works?
That's explained in the user manual. It adds artificial acceleration
Is it better to add filters within the sim or on your wheelbase? For example damping, etc
It really just comes down to personal preference and what feels best to you, but I usually try and keep the signal out of the sim as clean as possible and add filtering at a driver level.
I’ve recently been given a CSW V2.0 and I’ve bought a P1 V2 wheel, (as an upgrade from a G29) it’s great. I noticed that even after installing the Latest Fanatec driver and updating firmware for wheel base & wheel, that the wheel only has 2 menu items FFB and SEN, on the wheel itself tuning menu. Is this right or is something wrong? Any help would be great guys. BTW love your channel Will
I have a csw v2.5 and only have the 2 adjustment option as well. There may be an expert settings mode that has to be enabled. I will have to check the options...
@@fumanseano2846 press the settings button once, then hold it for 3 sec, the other menu will appear on the wheel.
The god of sim racing
thank you so much
Does the CSL DD support wheels that have vibration motors in them?
Yes it does ! 😉
Always good info. Any reason why i cannot get Fanalabs to work? It doesn't recognize my games installed. It does see my Fanatec gear.
Buck Rogers do you have it installed in the default location?
Would default location be my C drive?
@@buckrogers8858 yes, the default install path.
Why doesn't this play? it just keeps loading
All my drivers for my dd2 are as up to date as they can be, it was a lot smoother before updating, i regret it alot... unless someone has had a similar issue and solved it somehow?
Thanks in advance (fanalab and fanatec control panel are as up to date as possible)
Great Video Will. Do you plan on doing something similar for Simucube's software? I'm leaning in that purchase direction. Thanks.
Already did one the same for Simucube about 6 months ago. It’s linked in the video description.
I think like this. Let's say you hop into a BMW Z4 GT3 car. That car's setting is going to be the same for whoever gets in the car. I want my fanatec to feel like that so I have to adapt to the car's forces.
I've driven quite a lot of sports cars in my life, a few track cars but I just can't get the feeling right in my newly bought pc master race. I've bought AC, ACC and rfactor 2 and I'm following the baseline settings from fanatec and it's just frustrating. The settings should be as good so you'd only have to change the ffb and that's it. Even Gran Turismo sport feels better than any of the PC games. I bought the fanatec dd1 podium F1 for PS4 and I'm on the last straw before I give up on PC.
Hey so I just bought a podium f1 wheel and each time the thing starts up, it’s off center. I have calibrated it to center. But each time I start it up, it’s off center to the left. Any ideas?
That’s normal, as long as it doesn’t need to calibrated every time.
@@boostedmedia it’s normal for it to start crooked?
@@boostedmedia also, do you know if it’s possible to map the buttons for gt7 to what I want? The game doesn’t have a settings menu for this wheel.
Are you ever gonna do a review on the accuforce pro v2? I would also be interesting to see a comparison between it and the simagic m10.
I spoke to them a while back but they weren’t interested at this stage.
Ok will I'm getting annoyed as hell. I can't for the life of me setup the DD1 with gt3R wheel to use the rotary knobs for brake bias or tc in iRacing. Any chance you can do a vid for us idiots? It goes one way and not the other or jumps 10 steps at a time. I know it's to do with the mps switch but cannot find info on it.
Fanatec or simucube 2 pro???? Which should I buy and why??
I have a Simucube 2 Sport and Pro coming next week to find out.
Hi I hope you read this ,I'm in community where we share setup and race , my
Problem is a lot off guys are having problems with my setup, the think I'm giving them a standard ,,I try to explain that I'm driving with a very hard and realistic wheelsettings on fanatec ,and I can't go over the curbs whiteout making the car more soft ,and I have a different drivingstyle,
But they don't believe it
So the question, will the car setup change if you ,drive with lot of ffb or less
If you’re running a level of force feedback that’s making you slower, I’d suggest turning it down. But yes if you set the car up with softer general characteristics, that will also dampen the harshness of the FFB.
@@boostedmedia thanks mate
just to clarify, my clubsport wheelbase 2.5 does not have the Linearity setting at all :-)
Christian Hochhold correct, it’s a dd exclusive feature