Giannis picked him in last year's allstar game over his own teammate jrue holiday and said it's because he "wants to win." Now they're actually teammates Scripted trash by the NBA here.
i agree fs, imo the heat lost there control of thee situation when scoot henderson went 3rd to the blazers because it solidified that guard spot for the future. if they got brandon miller they would have probably accepted a herro trade
No they didn’t. Blazers got fucked in this trade. Ayton is a solid player, but not anything close to enough value for Lillard. They didn’t want another ball-dominant guard… but got Jrue, an aging player that they’ll need to flip. Those picks determine everything, and I highly doubt they’ll be worth much, let alone being as good or better than Herro, Jovic, & Jaquez.
@@ChrisbeFoSerious Needing to flip Jrue is fine; that's a good position to be in. They'll end up with even more first rounders when they're done. They didn't need Herro, they have Scoot and Simons, and Ayton is better than Jovic (though I do like Jovic). They made the right choice; Riley is a stiff.
@@NotOneToFly they could have flipped Herro just like they’re gonna Jrue-plus him being so young and on a new contract gives you more timeline to explore things- If they don’t find an adequate Jrue trade before the year ends (his contract isn’t easy to move), then they lose him for nothing. This move was super high risk with little guaranteed reward.
Portland fan here. I’m glad this is all over. It’s been a painful couple of years and I’m excited to see our young core go out and develop with less of a spotlight on them. And I’m happy that Dame is playing on a real contender with a real superstar teammate. I think this is a win for all (idk about the suns tho)
@@benlazzopina-wy9omNurkic helps because the suns just needs a big that knows their role and can be a big body agaisnt Nurkic, Allen is great off the bench defensive wise and brings grit
It's definitely not the flashy place that he wanted, but he is with a championship contender and the shows to Giannis that they're willing to continually make moves then make the franchise better. I think this kills two birds with one stone. Hopefully dame can see this though.
We all know what he wanted from the beginning all that loyalty stuff was fake he's far from loyal he picked to go player with a other superstar and a top 20 all time player because going to the heat would've been a bigger challenge talk about running from the grind
Yes me too. I'm a huge Bucks/Giannis fan and a huge Joker fan this is like my dream come true bc they are definitely the two best teams in the league rn and them matching up in the finals for the next few years would be absolutely legendary
@@shawtyeatemup1352 bro you do realize Giannis has won a ring correct? With Khris Middleton as his number 2 option? You literally just spewed brain rot onto the Internet
It's a shame that Jrue is no longer on the team, great defender, great vibes. But we could potentially see a modern version of Shaq and Kobe (Giannis is already considered kinf of a modern version of Shaq anyway), and if Middleton is healthy... Hope this team isn't a bust, and we see more than a finals appearance
I agree with Jrue, I liked him as a third option on that title run. The issue was always with Middleton, who played like a superstar sometimes and just as quickly realized he wasn't that guy. He's an inconsistent 2nd option, so hopefully him falling down to 3rd in the pecking order will benefit the team. Dame and Giannis will be scary on offense.
More than kind of. Shaq himself has said Giannis is the modern day version of Shaq. Shaq actually has said Giannis is better than him, which says a ton considering how hard Shaq is on modern day big men.
A whole lot of good Jrue's Permieter D did against Miami. The Heat shot .450 from 3 throughout the series. I love Jrue and everything he did for the Bucks. Nothing is ever going to beat the catharsis from the 2021 Finals run, but you make this trade 100 out of 100 times. Build the Jon Horst statue now.
Facts some ppl try to make this a bad trade for us smh..I love Jrue but he is getting older and his defense has been diminishing his offense is so inconsistent..Dames offense will outweigh Jrues defense
Portland is 100% moving Jrue for more assets in the near future. As a Bucks fan I think both Portland and Milwaukee came out of the deal looking pretty good all things considered.
@@mrip31 I was oversimplifying, but I still think I'm right. A better way to say it is that Jrue is point guard Jimmy. The main issue with that being that Miami needs a high volume 3-pt shooter at the point to make the spacing work and with Jrue they get another guard who is really good in the paint. Jrue certainly takes more threes than Jimmy, but I don't think he adds enough spacing to a roster that is going to need it without Struss (and potentially Herro). I will say, Jrue's shot profile does not have as much overlap with Jimmy as I thought it did. Jrue doesn't shoot as much midrange as I thought, though he does shoot a lot of close midrange, same as Jimmy. It could definitely work, and his temperament would fit Miami well. That said, if they wouldn't give Portland enough for Dame, I can't imagine they'll offer enough for Jrue.
I'm hoping to get a Joker/Giannis finals. This trade just made me doubly excited for this upcoming season and as a bucks fan I am hoping this means Giannis will be around much much longer
@@yerik6034kuminga vs Gianni’s ?😭 what are you saying the warriors ain’t making it out the second round if they meet the lakers they’ll get booted again and the suns and nuggets are way better the the warriors too not to mention klay and dray are past they’re prime and kumingas so trash he got benched against the lakers cause he wouldn’t of been able to stop a 38 year old bron on a hurt foot and yet you think he’d give Gianna’s a run for his money ?
Bucks' fans spent so many years saying that Jrue was one of the most underrated players that the Blazers front office took the bait, that was a genius move by y'all guys 😂 Jrue and Grayson Allen + 1 pick and 2 swaps for a couple of years of being the favorites it's a hella good trade
@@Antonio12329dHuh? Jrue is getting moved immediately he’s not suiting up for Blazers and he’s been underrated even before playing for MIL. I know you’re trying to be funny but do better
I really was hoping this would happen, kinda bummed they gotta give up that Holiday defense though, but he's been saying he's stepping away after this last contract for a second now. Either way the East is UP! Bring back the Eastern Conference All-Stars!
Wait so you were hoping another superteam was created to destroy the balance of the league? So I guess superteams are only an issue when lebron james is the one on them. Got it.
@@sac1211Not necessarily, just wanted the best opportunity for Dame and I believed it would be better for him in Milwaukee than in Miami. And here we are today 😂
And that my friends ends truly a great stint. I'm not even a Blazers fan but I sympathize with those who are. One of my favorite players and it's sad to see him leave the team he brought up and took care of. Good memories is at least what he is leaving behind and I wish the blazers good luck for the future as they have a promising team
Damn between Wemby, OKC adding Chet to an already extremely impressive young team, and now Dame & Giannis together in Milwaukee this looks like it's going to be a monster of a season. Now if the Lakers can find a way to get Holiday it could really make things interesting.
My first reaction to this notification was “what the hell?” I clicked on the video and immediately heard the same thing I said. This was a special moment for me
A lot of people are talking about the Bucks and Blazers (understandably so) but the Suns just got so much better, they got rid of Aytons max contract and brought in a few solid pieces for their depth. They might be able to challenge the Nuggets in the West now.
Because the biggest barrier for them to reach the finals remains a guy named Jokic, and this trade makes them even worse at containing him. If you think Ayton was bad at guarding Jokic, wait till you see Nurkic try to do it, if he can stay on the court, of course. :)
@@nighthiker oh trust me i know lol. i been calling jokic the best player in the league since 2021. but i do live in arizona and by default i have to atleast root for the suns when they’re good😂 and this might be the best roster we’ve had in years. barring no injuries, it’s a very good team on paper. the difference now is nurk has backup with eubanks and bol, and they got plenty of shooters and defenders surrounding 3 of the best scorers in the league.
@@mateo02_ As a Nuggets fan, I know Nurkic and Bol Bol quite well. Believe me when I say they have no chance at staying on the court with Jokic. The Ayton/Landale tandem was much better in that regard - even though it looked like they were completely helpless - I guess that's what jokic does to you once he eventually figures you out. I believe the Suns were a much better team before they traded for Durant. More precisely, the mid range game they depend on so highly today inherently has too much variance - if they get a huge showing from two of Durant, Booker and KD they have great chances, but that's unsustainable, as we saw last season. To me they had a better core and were much more balanced pre-Durant. But that's the NBA for you - owners/GMs have no patience and still fold to the superstar culture that brings notoriety and attendance. It's a business first and foremost, after all - making money is the priority, winning comes second. But we'll have to wait and see how it goes on the actual court if they meet again in the playoffs. Cheers and good luck! ;)
This trade blew me away and still does. I honestly thought Portland would have a death grip on Dame and wouldn't trade him at all. Here we are about a month before the season starts and he goes to Milwaukee. Holy shit. I'm blown away this trade even happened, but I'm happy that Dame got out of that bad situation. Now as for my prediction as to how this is going to work out, aside from injuries, another huge thing is going to be EGO. So many great teams or even championship-caliber teams on paper have not worked out because of ego problems. I'm hoping everyone can be adults and figure out that problem like men if it happens.
Damn I’m a Cavs fan but my realistic expectations for Cleveland this season is to win a playoff series. Anything less than that will be upsetting, but I obviously want more. Just that’s logical progression for the Cavs
I don't really think they'll win a series in this stacked of an east, the Bucks, Celtics, Heat, 76ers (assuming they don't implode by playoff time) and Knicks are all better than the Cavs.
@@susanlee594 we shall see but I’m afraid you’re correct. I haven’t even kept up with the Cavs off season moves. They need an elite wing, perimeter defense, some length and possibly outside shooting. I’ll still enjoy the season though.
@@joegreezy They got Max Strus from the Heat who is a great shooter and a decent defender on the wing. And hey if it makes you feel better, the Cavs will probably get a pretty high seed in the East so they might have an easy first round matchup like the Hawks or Bulls
@@susanlee594 the hawks aren’t to be taken lightly at all. They lost them in the play in 2 years ago. I’m not sure about the bulls. Cavs have to stay healthy too. Who is your team?
@@joegreezy I'm a Spurs fan. I agree that maybe I slighted the Hawks and Bulls a little too heavily, they are just an example of teams that could make the playoffs but not as good as Cleveland.
This does feel like the moment giannis became the protagonist once again. He has the opportunity to win multiple chips on the next four years so he really could end up as the goat.
It's reminiscent to Clyde Drexler and Hakeem Olajuwon when it comes to Dame (Portland legend) gets traded. Hope they actually win atleast one like Clyde and Olajuwon did
I see a lot more pick and pops being established on the Bucks offense. It is similar to how Clyde Drexler was brought to Houston to be paired up with Hakeem. The Rockets already had great 3 point shooters such as Kenny Smith, Sam Cassell, Vernon Maxwell, Mario Elie, and Robert Horry. The Bucks already have great 3 point shooters such as Brook Lopez (37.4%), Bobby Portis (37.0%), Malik Beasley (35.7%), Jae Crowder (43.6%), and Khris Middleton will be a better 3 point shooter this season.
If Jae, pat, bobby performed at their peak form, this team is legit the scariest team, with great depth as well. Only concern I have is keeping the core relatively injury free and the fact that for the first time, Dame actually has a huge pressure to win a chip, will he step up or crumble
I need to see Dame/Lopez pick and roll/pop with Giannis as a lob threat. And Khris/Pat/Malik on the kick-out!? I’m gonna be up all night thinking about this offence
this came outta left field but I guess we should’ve seen it coming, considering the noise Gianni’s was making this off-season despite dames preferences. It’s gonna be unstoppable and even better if they have a good defensive 3 and D 2 with a decent bench. Barring health, I’m scared af of the bucks now. this duo compliments each other way too well. Middleton will probably slot in perfectly to the 3rd option on offense.
No such thing as a guaranteed championship my friend! Denver vs Milwaukee finals would be so awesome. Personally, I'd still take the Nuggets in that scenario but it's certainly a close battle.
Dame/Giannis games mesh so well it’s almost like a plug and play situation. I see the Bucks dominating right out the gate. Also Middleton is a perfect 3rd option at this point in his career. He might be even better this year as a came back after the all star break and didn’t even play half the season last year.
I expected him to go to the Bucks, but that was my Giannis/Bucks bias... I didn't think it would happen. I was thinking that its smartest move for both... But I thought that it was going to be the Heat.
I'm new to this but the way the NBA is right now I wouldn't favor (even such) a nice big 3 over a very well constructed team. Miami proved last season that you can get very far with team spirit, a very well constructed roster, and great coaching. That being said, I can't wait to see those two work their magic together.
The early 2020’s is going to be an interesting time in the NBA when we look back at it. We saw a few Superteams failing (hello Nets), and we saw arguably a bit more of a variety of teams making deeper playoff appearances (2021 being the poster child for that). These two should be an intriguing duo, and a new look Bucks team that could go far.
The 2023 Heat finals run was a coordinated chokejob on the part of coach Bud and the entire Celtics roster. The Nuggets folded them in five games. That shit's embarrassing. That should not happen again, not with Miami's current roster. I don't see them getting past a Bucks team with a new coach that knows when to call a timeout and a star that can reliably close out games without getting hacked at the free throw line. As for the Celtics, if they manage to choke away a series again they should blow up their whole roster and pray their next batch of recruits don't turn out to be perrennial choke artists.
@GeorgePerakis you're harsh ! Coach bud's brother died during the series if I'm not mistaken. Which is a more than valid reason to make mistakes imo. As for the Celtics... well, as far as I know, you're right, but they also made moves during these past few days that address these issues. Although if they don't get the championship, they probably will blow it up.
This is like GOT's Red Wedding... nobody expected it, but once happened, it was so obvious... Two players made noise all summer. Now, both are on the same franchise. Bravo.
I'm a little concerned about the Bucks perimiter defense and the fact that Middleton and Lopez are very old, but they are now probably the best team in the East.
I'm surprised the Blazers actually traded him to a real contender. If Dame is gonna complain about this situation, he really is trying to run from the grind
Bucks is the scariest team in the East right now. Pick and rolls on that team would be nasty, Brook can shoot outside, Giannis just bullies everyone inside, Khris can shoot midrange and you'd still have to guard Dame everywhere. It's exciting to be a Bucks fan right now. Commented this before, but Bucks Nuggets finals might actually happen holy shit.
0:07 It was on mine, I thought it was between them and the Heat for the best fit for him. I wondered why no one brought them up, people were really saying the Knicks lmao.
The Bucks just completely kneecapped the Heat in multiple ways with this move. Who was rumored to be angry at his front office and looking to maybe to go the Heat? Giannis, that sure as shit isn’t happening now. The present and the future of the Heat have both been completely fucked by the Bucks.
I feel like we say this every year about good teams with no benches then one injury takes it all away. You need more than five players to win a championship
I could not believe it when I first saw it I thought it was clickbait, but what the hell?! Miami was supposed to get Dame, but Milwaukee got him instead? Speechless...
It makes sense that the Blazers would want to bet against Milwaukee's future. Dame will be roughly 1000 years old in 2029 and will probably be retired. Giannis will be 34. Lopez will definitely be retired. Middleton probably will be too. I'm not sure a 34-year-old Giannis is going to singlehandedly keep the team afloat, if he's even on the team. As for preferring distant Milwaukee picks to distant Miami picks, that makes sense to me too, given each franchise's history. Plus, Jrue is a better player than anyone Miami could offer and can be flipped for more assets. Even at his age and with his contract running out soon, he's more appealing to more teams than Herro.
I can't believe some ppl are downplaying the move 😂 I'm a Sixer fan, so I'm not happy about it, but Dame, Giannis, and Middleton is gonna be nasty. Giannis is a winner. He's not gonna let this chance slide out the window. Imagine Dame as option TWO?!
This team with Brook, Giannis and Dame is giving me shades of the Love/Lebron/Kyrie Cavs honestly. Obviously 35 year old Brook is not prime Kevin Love but he is an elite shotblocker and the Bucks also still have Khris, who, when healthy, is a reliable 20 ppg wing, so there's a lot of talent on this team. If someone called them a superteam I wouldn't argue that point too hard but they took an already really good team, subtracted an allstar and added a superstar, and that's not really what we call a "superteam", players didn't conspire to join forces and win rings, this just kinda happened because it was a smart move. The team is a little topheavy now they still have a strong sixth man and some reliable rotational players so I think it's all up to Giannis now to win a second, and maybe a third ring. We'll see. Maybe this will be the dynasty to rule the 2020s for a while. Dame might age super well, like Curry or Paul, we could see like five seasons of Dame and Giannis contending for rings togetger consistently. Bit optimistic but you never know.
Just keep in mind that Lillard is a liability on defense, and so is Middleton, so, if it comes to stopping the opposing team it will be interesting to see, and being better than the Nuggets, we shall see.
Only thing I’d be worried about is age/ injuries and depth but outside of that hood team, don’t understand the suns cause they could of got a lot more but going to be a fun nba season
i cant get to remember the last time i felt so afraid from the result of a trade as i am right now.. we had block buster trades in the past few years but none of them looked so prone to success as this one
so when milwaukee has no depth theyre championship favorites but when the suns have the best big 3 in the NBA and reasonable depth theyre “barely contenders”
@@michaelgieseler2799Thanks. Side note: Imagine how many draft picks teams would demand and give up for top tier players if the Stepien rule didn’t exist.
I think people underestimate how bad the Bucks might be in 2028-30. Bucks don't control any of their picks until 2030 except a 2027 second-rounder. They don't even have any 2nd-round picks period except 2025 and 2027. So they have no young talent or even rookie-scale contract role players incoming, no assets to trade for younger players down the line, not a market that gets big free agents, the rest of their team except Giannis is in their mid-30s already Of course its still worth it for Milwaukee, this might get them 1-2 more rings in the near future, but odds are strong the 2028 29 30 Bucks picks are when it's 34-year-old Giannis, role-players, G-Leaguers, and an Antetokoumpo brother. The Blazers have to be salivating over these picks. It's very possible they end up getting 2 or 3 top-5 picks to put rookie-contract stars around a contender with prime Scoot and Sharpe and whoever they draft next year etc Miami fans mad about this also gotta know Miami will likely still be at worst a play-in team indefinitely, being a stable org in a destination market who can get star free free agent. If I were the Blazers I'd choose 1 pick and 2 pick swaps from the Bucks in 6 years from now over even 2 full picks from Miami. If I'm the Blazers GM I'd bet on that being 2-3 high lottery picks vs like 2 picks around 15th-20th too. Miami could've added one more pick to make it 3 firsts but they got overconfident and stingy and fumbled it
Personal potential Bucks' starting 5: Dame at PG obviously lol Middleton at SG - An all-star who is pretty decent on both ends of the floor. Crowder at SF - was underutilized by Bud, but can play great defense and knock down some spot-up 3s Giannis at PF Brook at C for pick n pop and rim protection
Some info for y’all. Ayton contests fewer shots than Nurkic per game, and also has worse results than Nurkic when he does contest. From almost every range and spot on the floor. And they have almost identical offensive rebounding percentages. So many people think Ayton is a good defender, and they are wrong. He has the ability to *become* an elite defender. But currently? He’s almost *aggressively* mediocre.
Rusty: What the hell?! WHAT. THE. HELL?! I believe my initial reaction to the trade at first was also something like: What the fuck? What the FUCK?! WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!
LIVE RIGHT NOW (probably)... Emergency Dame Pod: czcams.com/video/NvgW8lmej1A/video.html
Initially, I thought Dame and Giannis together would be awesome, but I didn't think Milwaukee had the assets to trade for him. But they found a way.
we really didn't give up much player wise... jrue (that hurts but dame is clearly better) and Grayson (was gone anyway)
Giannis picked him in last year's allstar game over his own teammate jrue holiday and said it's because he "wants to win." Now they're actually teammates
Scripted trash by the NBA here.
@@chenzomutumbo9140a dame and jrue back court wouldve been awesome
@@chenzomutumbo9140I’m happy that Jrue got traded cuz he was a negative in the playoffs
Special thanks to the Suns for doing the bucks a massive favor being interested in Nurk for some fuckin reason 😂
Dame is about to prove to everyone just how good he truly is
We already know how good he is, just wanna see him win a chip with a decent/great team
Yeah, so good he went to create a superteam with giannis because he couldn't be the franchise player for his own franchise what a clown 😂
@@sebastiangonzales46he hasn’t performed well outside of the fist round
He never players good outside the first round
Let’s hope so 😊
Portland got MUCH more than they would’ve gotten from Miami. The heat screwed themselves nobody to blame but the front office for being stingy
i agree fs, imo the heat lost there control of thee situation when scoot henderson went 3rd to the blazers because it solidified that guard spot for the future. if they got brandon miller they would have probably accepted a herro trade
No they didn’t. Blazers got fucked in this trade.
Ayton is a solid player, but not anything close to enough value for Lillard. They didn’t want another ball-dominant guard… but got Jrue, an aging player that they’ll need to flip.
Those picks determine everything, and I highly doubt they’ll be worth much, let alone being as good or better than Herro, Jovic, & Jaquez.
@@ChrisbeFoSerious Needing to flip Jrue is fine; that's a good position to be in. They'll end up with even more first rounders when they're done. They didn't need Herro, they have Scoot and Simons, and Ayton is better than Jovic (though I do like Jovic). They made the right choice; Riley is a stiff.
@@NotOneToFly they could have flipped Herro just like they’re gonna Jrue-plus him being so young and on a new contract gives you more timeline to explore things-
If they don’t find an adequate Jrue trade before the year ends (his contract isn’t easy to move), then they lose him for nothing. This move was super high risk with little guaranteed reward.
@@NotOneToFlytuff to flip jrue, he is retiring after his contract ends, nobody want an old ass jrue who gon retire soon
Portland fan here. I’m glad this is all over. It’s been a painful couple of years and I’m excited to see our young core go out and develop with less of a spotlight on them. And I’m happy that Dame is playing on a real contender with a real superstar teammate. I think this is a win for all (idk about the suns tho)
Yup. You get a former number one overall pick in Ayton. I'm sure they'll get a nice haul for Jrue.
yeah idk how nurkic and grayson allen helps the suns at all, maybe grayson allen can be a solid sixth man
@@benlazzopina-wy9omNurkic helps because the suns just needs a big that knows their role and can be a big body agaisnt Nurkic, Allen is great off the bench defensive wise and brings grit
@@TimDaGoof im just very doubtfull nurk can stay healthy, that guy is injured every season
@@benlazzopina-wy9om Grayson is a good three point shooter. Imagine the open looks he's getting.
rusty hasn’t been this animated since the clippers got cooked in the bubble 😭😭💀
The heat thought they could lowball just because dame wanted to go there as if Portland would just keel over and accept scraps
That’s the modern NBA. Good move by the Bucks.
Not a soul wants herro
Miami is such a joke. They seem totally determined to set their progress in stone.
It's definitely not the flashy place that he wanted, but he is with a championship contender and the shows to Giannis that they're willing to continually make moves then make the franchise better. I think this kills two birds with one stone. Hopefully dame can see this though.
We all know what he wanted from the beginning all that loyalty stuff was fake he's far from loyal he picked to go player with a other superstar and a top 20 all time player because going to the heat would've been a bigger challenge talk about running from the grind
@sac1211 he was a loyal player
@@sac1211he already spent 11 seasons in an organization that never did any good for him
@@sac1211bro what
@@sac1211actual robot
Oh I would love a Bucks / Nuggets finals for the next few years.
Yes me too. I'm a huge Bucks/Giannis fan and a huge Joker fan this is like my dream come true bc they are definitely the two best teams in the league rn and them matching up in the finals for the next few years would be absolutely legendary
Too bad the warriors exist
Bucks ain't winning the East Giannis still can't hit free throws in the clutch and Dame can't defend 😊😊
@@shawtyeatemup1352 bro you do realize Giannis has won a ring correct? With Khris Middleton as his number 2 option? You literally just spewed brain rot onto the Internet
It's a shame that Jrue is no longer on the team, great defender, great vibes. But we could potentially see a modern version of Shaq and Kobe (Giannis is already considered kinf of a modern version of Shaq anyway), and if Middleton is healthy... Hope this team isn't a bust, and we see more than a finals appearance
I hope that Gianni’s reoccurring injury doesn’t come back
Kobe is dead
I agree with Jrue, I liked him as a third option on that title run. The issue was always with Middleton, who played like a superstar sometimes and just as quickly realized he wasn't that guy. He's an inconsistent 2nd option, so hopefully him falling down to 3rd in the pecking order will benefit the team. Dame and Giannis will be scary on offense.
@@cstc1235 nah he's at yo mama's house
More than kind of. Shaq himself has said Giannis is the modern day version of Shaq. Shaq actually has said Giannis is better than him, which says a ton considering how hard Shaq is on modern day big men.
A whole lot of good Jrue's Permieter D did against Miami. The Heat shot .450 from 3 throughout the series.
I love Jrue and everything he did for the Bucks. Nothing is ever going to beat the catharsis from the 2021 Finals run, but you make this trade 100 out of 100 times. Build the Jon Horst statue now.
Facts some ppl try to make this a bad trade for us smh..I love Jrue but he is getting older and his defense has been diminishing his offense is so inconsistent..Dames offense will outweigh Jrues defense
Good luck to any team trying to stack 3 or 4 defenders in the paint to stop Giannis now
Portland is 100% moving Jrue for more assets in the near future. As a Bucks fan I think both Portland and Milwaukee came out of the deal looking pretty good all things considered.
Imagine Miami getting jrue
@@bobbyjankins3796Bad fit given what Miami needs sorely is playoff scoring
@@bobbyjankins3796 Jrue is just discount Jimmy. I don't think Miami would do that.
@@NotOneToFly That's not an accurate assessment at all.
@@mrip31 I was oversimplifying, but I still think I'm right. A better way to say it is that Jrue is point guard Jimmy. The main issue with that being that Miami needs a high volume 3-pt shooter at the point to make the spacing work and with Jrue they get another guard who is really good in the paint. Jrue certainly takes more threes than Jimmy, but I don't think he adds enough spacing to a roster that is going to need it without Struss (and potentially Herro).
I will say, Jrue's shot profile does not have as much overlap with Jimmy as I thought it did. Jrue doesn't shoot as much midrange as I thought, though he does shoot a lot of close midrange, same as Jimmy. It could definitely work, and his temperament would fit Miami well. That said, if they wouldn't give Portland enough for Dame, I can't imagine they'll offer enough for Jrue.
I'm hoping to get a Joker/Giannis finals. This trade just made me doubly excited for this upcoming season and as a bucks fan I am hoping this means Giannis will be around much much longer
suns will shit on the west
Prepare for the Murray vs Lillard part 2 assuming they'll face each other in the Finals, let alone one of them will make it there.
@@shamsielshahar120 curry vs lillard, kuminga vs Giannias
@@yerik6034kuminga vs Gianni’s ?😭 what are you saying the warriors ain’t making it out the second round if they meet the lakers they’ll get booted again and the suns and nuggets are way better the the warriors too not to mention klay and dray are past they’re prime and kumingas so trash he got benched against the lakers cause he wouldn’t of been able to stop a 38 year old bron on a hurt foot and yet you think he’d give Gianna’s a run for his money ?
Im a warriors fan so Im praying for a warriors bucks finals
I am skeptical of our perimeter defense but my God we committed highway robbery for this man wth 😭
All this just to lose to the lakers is pretty funny
@@sac1211all this for the lakers to get bounced by the kings in 6 in the second round
Bucks' fans spent so many years saying that Jrue was one of the most underrated players that the Blazers front office took the bait, that was a genius move by y'all guys 😂
Jrue and Grayson Allen + 1 pick and 2 swaps for a couple of years of being the favorites it's a hella good trade
the lakers are not that good lmaooooooooo@@sac1211
@@Antonio12329dHuh? Jrue is getting moved immediately he’s not suiting up for Blazers and he’s been underrated even before playing for MIL. I know you’re trying to be funny but do better
I really was hoping this would happen, kinda bummed they gotta give up that Holiday defense though, but he's been saying he's stepping away after this last contract for a second now.
Either way the East is UP!
Bring back the Eastern Conference All-Stars!
Wait so you were hoping another superteam was created to destroy the balance of the league? So I guess superteams are only an issue when lebron james is the one on them. Got it.
@@sac1211Not necessarily, just wanted the best opportunity for Dame and I believed it would be better for him in Milwaukee than in Miami. And here we are today 😂
Jrue retiring?
Imagine the next 6-8 years is just nuggets and bucks finals
And that my friends ends truly a great stint. I'm not even a Blazers fan but I sympathize with those who are. One of my favorite players and it's sad to see him leave the team he brought up and took care of. Good memories is at least what he is leaving behind and I wish the blazers good luck for the future as they have a promising team
Damn between Wemby, OKC adding Chet to an already extremely impressive young team, and now Dame & Giannis together in Milwaukee this looks like it's going to be a monster of a season. Now if the Lakers can find a way to get Holiday it could really make things interesting.
As a bucks fan I’m going to miss Jrue so much. Buuut dame?!?!? This is something I’ve wanted since Gianni’s first mvp year😂
My first reaction to this notification was “what the hell?” I clicked on the video and immediately heard the same thing I said. This was a special moment for me
A lot of people are talking about the Bucks and Blazers (understandably so) but the Suns just got so much better, they got rid of Aytons max contract and brought in a few solid pieces for their depth. They might be able to challenge the Nuggets in the West now.
How do you think of them so far?
Let's not forget just a couple years ago we all thought kawhi and Paul George teaming up was a guaranteed title for the clippers. JS.
why is no one talking about how deep this suns team is gonna be next year lol
The Suns have to win before I care 😂 I’m a Cavs fan but I enjoy the Suns. Man they have had some clunkers in the playoffs
Because the biggest barrier for them to reach the finals remains a guy named Jokic, and this trade makes them even worse at containing him. If you think Ayton was bad at guarding Jokic, wait till you see Nurkic try to do it, if he can stay on the court, of course. :)
Grayson allen is meh while nurkic is a huge downgrade from ayton
@@nighthiker oh trust me i know lol. i been calling jokic the best player in the league since 2021. but i do live in arizona and by default i have to atleast root for the suns when they’re good😂 and this might be the best roster we’ve had in years. barring no injuries, it’s a very good team on paper. the difference now is nurk has backup with eubanks and bol, and they got plenty of shooters and defenders surrounding 3 of the best scorers in the league.
@@mateo02_ As a Nuggets fan, I know Nurkic and Bol Bol quite well. Believe me when I say they have no chance at staying on the court with Jokic. The Ayton/Landale tandem was much better in that regard - even though it looked like they were completely helpless - I guess that's what jokic does to you once he eventually figures you out. I believe the Suns were a much better team before they traded for Durant.
More precisely, the mid range game they depend on so highly today inherently has too much variance - if they get a huge showing from two of Durant, Booker and KD they have great chances, but that's unsustainable, as we saw last season.
To me they had a better core and were much more balanced pre-Durant. But that's the NBA for you - owners/GMs have no patience and still fold to the superstar culture that brings notoriety and attendance. It's a business first and foremost, after all - making money is the priority, winning comes second.
But we'll have to wait and see how it goes on the actual court if they meet again in the playoffs.
Cheers and good luck! ;)
This trade blew me away and still does. I honestly thought Portland would have a death grip on Dame and wouldn't trade him at all. Here we are about a month before the season starts and he goes to Milwaukee. Holy shit. I'm blown away this trade even happened, but I'm happy that Dame got out of that bad situation.
Now as for my prediction as to how this is going to work out, aside from injuries, another huge thing is going to be EGO. So many great teams or even championship-caliber teams on paper have not worked out because of ego problems. I'm hoping everyone can be adults and figure out that problem like men if it happens.
Damn I’m a Cavs fan but my realistic expectations for Cleveland this season is to win a playoff series. Anything less than that will be upsetting, but I obviously want more. Just that’s logical progression for the Cavs
I don't really think they'll win a series in this stacked of an east, the Bucks, Celtics, Heat, 76ers (assuming they don't implode by playoff time) and Knicks are all better than the Cavs.
@@susanlee594 we shall see but I’m afraid you’re correct. I haven’t even kept up with the Cavs off season moves. They need an elite wing, perimeter defense, some length and possibly outside shooting. I’ll still enjoy the season though.
@@joegreezy They got Max Strus from the Heat who is a great shooter and a decent defender on the wing. And hey if it makes you feel better, the Cavs will probably get a pretty high seed in the East so they might have an easy first round matchup like the Hawks or Bulls
@@susanlee594 the hawks aren’t to be taken lightly at all. They lost them in the play in 2 years ago. I’m not sure about the bulls. Cavs have to stay healthy too. Who is your team?
@@joegreezy I'm a Spurs fan. I agree that maybe I slighted the Hawks and Bulls a little too heavily, they are just an example of teams that could make the playoffs but not as good as Cleveland.
This does feel like the moment giannis became the protagonist once again. He has the opportunity to win multiple chips on the next four years so he really could end up as the goat.
It's reminiscent to Clyde Drexler and Hakeem Olajuwon when it comes to Dame (Portland legend) gets traded. Hope they actually win atleast one like Clyde and Olajuwon did
I see a lot more pick and pops being established on the Bucks offense.
It is similar to how Clyde Drexler was brought to Houston to be paired up with Hakeem. The Rockets already had great 3 point shooters such as Kenny Smith, Sam Cassell, Vernon Maxwell, Mario Elie, and Robert Horry.
The Bucks already have great 3 point shooters such as Brook Lopez (37.4%), Bobby Portis (37.0%), Malik Beasley (35.7%), Jae Crowder (43.6%), and Khris Middleton will be a better 3 point shooter this season.
Imagine if Giannis and Dame had spent their whole careers together.
If Jae, pat, bobby performed at their peak form, this team is legit the scariest team, with great depth as well. Only concern I have is keeping the core relatively injury free and the fact that for the first time, Dame actually has a huge pressure to win a chip, will he step up or crumble
@@fortynights1513Shaq and Kobe type shii 😂
I need to see Dame/Lopez pick and roll/pop with Giannis as a lob threat. And Khris/Pat/Malik on the kick-out!? I’m gonna be up all night thinking about this offence
Bro is gonna be up all night thinking about a bunch of big buff men.
@@abscinding😭😭😭
this came outta left field but I guess we should’ve seen it coming, considering the noise Gianni’s was making this off-season despite dames preferences. It’s gonna be unstoppable and even better if they have a good defensive 3 and D 2 with a decent bench. Barring health, I’m scared af of the bucks now. this duo compliments each other way too well. Middleton will probably slot in perfectly to the 3rd option on offense.
you know is a big video when rusty is showing genuine emotion 😭😭💀
"Barring health there is no chance they dont win a championship" that was said about brooklyn
No such thing as a guaranteed championship my friend! Denver vs Milwaukee finals would be so awesome. Personally, I'd still take the Nuggets in that scenario but it's certainly a close battle.
Every Heat fan is mentally crying in a fetal position
Yep this hurts but fuck it heat in 5😭😭😭
They can trade for Jrue now lol Portland and Miami can reengage in trade talks
@@Simon_Sez the sixers are tryna get jrue as well
@@Braylon1997 definitely interested to see where he goes
@@Braylon1997so the sixers want him back after a decade huh lol
Gotta love the quick upload Rusty🔥
Dame/Giannis games mesh so well it’s almost like a plug and play situation. I see the Bucks dominating right out the gate.
Also Middleton is a perfect 3rd option at this point in his career. He might be even better this year as a came back after the all star break and didn’t even play half the season last year.
As a heat fan I’m absolutely depressed and I hate the NBA now 😂
Lol same. Lets hope Jacquez and Jovic are good considering we lost gabe and max 😂
This is quite literally the 3rd off season in a row where we got arguably worse than we were previously
I expected him to go to the Bucks, but that was my Giannis/Bucks bias... I didn't think it would happen. I was thinking that its smartest move for both... But I thought that it was going to be the Heat.
I'm new to this but the way the NBA is right now I wouldn't favor (even such) a nice big 3 over a very well constructed team. Miami proved last season that you can get very far with team spirit, a very well constructed roster, and great coaching. That being said, I can't wait to see those two work their magic together.
The early 2020’s is going to be an interesting time in the NBA when we look back at it.
We saw a few Superteams failing (hello Nets), and we saw arguably a bit more of a variety of teams making deeper playoff appearances (2021 being the poster child for that).
These two should be an intriguing duo, and a new look Bucks team that could go far.
The 2023 Heat finals run was a coordinated chokejob on the part of coach Bud and the entire Celtics roster.
The Nuggets folded them in five games. That shit's embarrassing. That should not happen again, not with Miami's current roster. I don't see them getting past a Bucks team with a new coach that knows when to call a timeout and a star that can reliably close out games without getting hacked at the free throw line. As for the Celtics, if they manage to choke away a series again they should blow up their whole roster and pray their next batch of recruits don't turn out to be perrennial choke artists.
@GeorgePerakis you're harsh ! Coach bud's brother died during the series if I'm not mistaken. Which is a more than valid reason to make mistakes imo. As for the Celtics... well, as far as I know, you're right, but they also made moves during these past few days that address these issues. Although if they don't get the championship, they probably will blow it up.
This is like GOT's Red Wedding... nobody expected it, but once happened, it was so obvious...
Two players made noise all summer. Now, both are on the same franchise. Bravo.
Suns filled out their roster a bit, but depending on Nurkic to anchor a defense doesn't sound viable to me in 2023-24
Hes really bad on defense
Dame didnt go to the heat and celtics fans cant even be happy about it 😂
Kobe has 6 rings if he gets CP3
I'm a little concerned about the Bucks perimiter defense and the fact that Middleton and Lopez are very old, but they are now probably the best team in the East.
The defense without jrue sure had a negative impact.
Mans was so sure he was going to the heat🤣🤣🤣
I'm surprised the Blazers actually traded him to a real contender. If Dame is gonna complain about this situation, he really is trying to run from the grind
it’s just crazy they have some of the top scorers at all three levels, dame on the perimeter, middleton in the midrange, and giannis in the paint
First second of the video sums it up pretty well lmao
Can't wait for dame to request another trade. Lol
Bucks is the scariest team in the East right now. Pick and rolls on that team would be nasty, Brook can shoot outside, Giannis just bullies everyone inside, Khris can shoot midrange and you'd still have to guard Dame everywhere. It's exciting to be a Bucks fan right now. Commented this before, but Bucks Nuggets finals might actually happen holy shit.
0:07 It was on mine, I thought it was between them and the Heat for the best fit for him. I wondered why no one brought them up, people were really saying the Knicks lmao.
I literally searched for this exact video like 20 minutes ago. 😂 Rusty quick with it
Jimmy is going to be super motivated next year, Bucks better watch out.
0:12 Nahh, it was on a few folks' radar. I heard a couple of podcasts discussing the idea of Jrue getting up out of there for Dame.
Dame first ring would make me cry
The Bucks just completely kneecapped the Heat in multiple ways with this move. Who was rumored to be angry at his front office and looking to maybe to go the Heat? Giannis, that sure as shit isn’t happening now. The present and the future of the Heat have both been completely fucked by the Bucks.
Hell yeah this is gonna be fun can't wait for the season!
Two of my favorite players in the league since Kobe retired playing on the same team? Amazing
Miami and Dame coming together to sabotage Lillard's trade value worked out really great for the Bucks.
How did they do that?
I feel like we say this every year about good teams with no benches then one injury takes it all away. You need more than five players to win a championship
My dream just came true with this duo 🔥 i’ve been praying for Dame or Luka paired with Giannis for a really long time now
My exact reaction😂
IVE BEEN WAITING HOLY SHIIIIII I said idc if we give up khris and jrue I want dame I rlly do appreciate jrue and I will miss him dearly
I could not believe it when I first saw it I thought it was clickbait, but what the hell?! Miami was supposed to get Dame, but Milwaukee got him instead? Speechless...
"Whatttt?!" My literal thoughts when i saw the notification
It makes sense that the Blazers would want to bet against Milwaukee's future. Dame will be roughly 1000 years old in 2029 and will probably be retired. Giannis will be 34. Lopez will definitely be retired. Middleton probably will be too. I'm not sure a 34-year-old Giannis is going to singlehandedly keep the team afloat, if he's even on the team.
As for preferring distant Milwaukee picks to distant Miami picks, that makes sense to me too, given each franchise's history. Plus, Jrue is a better player than anyone Miami could offer and can be flipped for more assets. Even at his age and with his contract running out soon, he's more appealing to more teams than Herro.
WHOA!! Did NOT expect this! All that being said Lakers in 5
LeSwept
@@moonscourge6659 Lechampion is coming soon 🤫🤫🤫
I refreshed my CZcams saw the notification and immediately clicked. Holy shit man
I can't believe some ppl are downplaying the move 😂 I'm a Sixer fan, so I'm not happy about it, but Dame, Giannis, and Middleton is gonna be nasty. Giannis is a winner. He's not gonna let this chance slide out the window. Imagine Dame as option TWO?!
This team with Brook, Giannis and Dame is giving me shades of the Love/Lebron/Kyrie Cavs honestly. Obviously 35 year old Brook is not prime Kevin Love but he is an elite shotblocker and the Bucks also still have Khris, who, when healthy, is a reliable 20 ppg wing, so there's a lot of talent on this team. If someone called them a superteam I wouldn't argue that point too hard but they took an already really good team, subtracted an allstar and added a superstar, and that's not really what we call a "superteam", players didn't conspire to join forces and win rings, this just kinda happened because it was a smart move. The team is a little topheavy now they still have a strong sixth man and some reliable rotational players so I think it's all up to Giannis now to win a second, and maybe a third ring. We'll see. Maybe this will be the dynasty to rule the 2020s for a while. Dame might age super well, like Curry or Paul, we could see like five seasons of Dame and Giannis contending for rings togetger consistently. Bit optimistic but you never know.
Just keep in mind that Lillard is a liability on defense, and so is Middleton, so, if it comes to stopping the opposing team it will be interesting to see, and being better than the Nuggets, we shall see.
Dame about to make an mvp run
YOUR REACTION @0:00 IS EXACTLY WHAT I SAID WHEN I GOT THE NOTIFICATION 😭😭😭
Dame goint to Milwaukee was a bigger suprise than 9/11
When I heard the trade request happened I was thinking about this pick and roll as a bucks fan but seeing this actually happen is making me very happy
Only thing I’d be worried about is age/ injuries and depth but outside of that hood team, don’t understand the suns cause they could of got a lot more but going to be a fun nba season
Let’s go Dame!
Instantly my favorite team in the NBA tbh
I have never been do excited for a trade but as a bucks fan im so happy we got him instead of miami
Rusty keeps it so real, that intro was me when I found out
i cant get to remember the last time i felt so afraid from the result of a trade as i am right now.. we had block buster trades in the past few years but none of them looked so prone to success as this one
so when milwaukee has no depth theyre championship favorites but when the suns have the best big 3 in the NBA and reasonable depth theyre “barely contenders”
Dame went from looking at beach houses in miami to apartments in milwaukee 🤣
Officially done with ESPN and all these media outlets, damn everybody had it wrong lol
Heat fan. Depressed.
Good news at least the Bucks will be fun to watch tho
You can reengage with Portland about Jrue Holiday trades now 😉 teams still probably want Herro lol
Honest question regarding draft pick trades:
What is the limit to how many years in the future a pick you can trade can be?
7 years
@@michaelgieseler2799Thanks.
Side note: Imagine how many draft picks teams would demand and give up for top tier players if the Stepien rule didn’t exist.
For the love of god, just get Jimmy some fucking heeeelp
Thanks for interrupting your shower. We needed this 💯
The bucks reminds me of the 2016 warriors
I think people underestimate how bad the Bucks might be in 2028-30. Bucks don't control any of their picks until 2030 except a 2027 second-rounder. They don't even have any 2nd-round picks period except 2025 and 2027. So they have no young talent or even rookie-scale contract role players incoming, no assets to trade for younger players down the line, not a market that gets big free agents, the rest of their team except Giannis is in their mid-30s already
Of course its still worth it for Milwaukee, this might get them 1-2 more rings in the near future, but odds are strong the 2028 29 30 Bucks picks are when it's 34-year-old Giannis, role-players, G-Leaguers, and an Antetokoumpo brother. The Blazers have to be salivating over these picks. It's very possible they end up getting 2 or 3 top-5 picks to put rookie-contract stars around a contender with prime Scoot and Sharpe and whoever they draft next year etc
Miami fans mad about this also gotta know Miami will likely still be at worst a play-in team indefinitely, being a stable org in a destination market who can get star free free agent. If I were the Blazers I'd choose 1 pick and 2 pick swaps from the Bucks in 6 years from now over even 2 full picks from Miami. If I'm the Blazers GM I'd bet on that being 2-3 high lottery picks vs like 2 picks around 15th-20th too. Miami could've added one more pick to make it 3 firsts but they got overconfident and stingy and fumbled it
The blazers got more that the heat were willing to give them and they still did good by Dame. W
Personal potential Bucks' starting 5:
Dame at PG obviously lol
Middleton at SG - An all-star who is pretty decent on both ends of the floor.
Crowder at SF - was underutilized by Bud, but can play great defense and knock down some spot-up 3s
Giannis at PF
Brook at C for pick n pop and rim protection
Who is on the bench?
@@petarpavic112 Portis can lead the bench with players like Pat Connaughton, Malik Beasley, Marjon Beauchamp, and Robin Lopez, among others.
@@rnuke_rocketHave they played that starting lineup much?
That intro is basically everyones reaction
🙏 hope everyone stays healthy
First NBA trade in years that genuinely no one saw coming🤯😧
The best time live in Wisconsin especially in Milwaukee
Some info for y’all. Ayton contests fewer shots than Nurkic per game, and also has worse results than Nurkic when he does contest. From almost every range and spot on the floor. And they have almost identical offensive rebounding percentages. So many people think Ayton is a good defender, and they are wrong.
He has the ability to *become* an elite defender. But currently? He’s almost *aggressively* mediocre.
Dame didn't leave the grind, he just took a few steps forward and put himself in a better situation.
Rusty: What the hell?! WHAT. THE. HELL?!
I believe my initial reaction to the trade at first was also something like:
What the fuck? What the FUCK?! WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!
DAME DOLLA GOT TO GO BUCKKIN