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- Brendan O'Neill is the chief political writer at "spiked" and host of "The Brendan O'Neill Show." He's also the author of several books, among them "Anti-Woke," "A Duty to Offend," and most recently, "A Heretic's Manifesto: Essays on the Unsayable."
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Joe please help out Canada and bring the Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre on the show. He is our only shot of getting our once free and beautiful country back. We need your help.
No politician will ever save anything. He may seem better, but he is still a politician.
Poilievre is still no better than Trudeau. he has some good ideas, but no matter who we elect... we loose as citizens of Canada.. they are all social media moguls not politicans.
I feel so scared for you guys. You can't even defend yourselves if someone attacks you. California and NY are following suit. Good luck dude! ❤
Farkwit
I never would have thought Canada would go crazy socialist - it's very sad. God bless you all
We’re due for Alex Jones
Amen
@@joeylummox7330You sure you ain't just a crisis actor? 😂😅
@@joeylummox7330what about steven paddock carrying a 240bravo up mandalay bay hmmm that one was pretty weird
@@Laocoon283 sure, Connecticut is a false flag
@@joeylummox7330👈monkeypox spreader
Thank God for Joe. I had a lot of respect for this man until he spoke about the moral superiority of starving and bombing children. I was nauseous. And then Joe spoke and said exactly what I feel.
and then you came along and said exactly what I felt! 🤌👍👌🙏❤
Joe Rogan, I'm Brazilian! Thank you for your contribution to helping our honest people fight against the current lying and oppressive government!
Glad Rogan is back on CZcams because we now can have timestamps!
00:00 Exploring Societal Issues
08:31 Challenges of Climate Change Discourse
15:29 Concerns on Gender Ideology and Identity
35:31 Controversy over Women's Spaces and Freedom of Speech
46:15 Post-Lockdown Reflections and Global Perspectives
49:20 Censorship and the Crisis of Freedom of Speech
56:59 Historical Significance of Dissent and Impact of Censorship
01:02:27 Social Media Influence and Challenges in LGBTQ+ Advocacy
01:11:38 Rise of Cancel Culture and Silencing Legitimate Views
01:21:41 Role of AI in Society and Pushback Against Authoritarianism
01:26:21 Rise of Populist Movements and Yearning for Reason in Politics
01:31:00 Challenges to Establishment and Elite Compromises
01:34:05 Rise of Wokeness and Media Coverage Critique
01:39:28 Scrutiny on Israel-Gaza Conflict and Ethical Dilemmas in War
02:03:25 Justification and Moral Justifications in Conflict
02:11:51 Historical, Religious, and Moral Complexities in Conflict
02:19:37 Criticism, Double Standards, and Issues in Academia
source: sunnrise.ai
Thanks don't have to watch it all to figure out it's the same usual anti lgbt anti woke crap that all Joe's guests talk about now.
@@KW-ng8nd The greatest empowerment is skipping what we don't want to watch!
Yay thanks!!!
@@KW-ng8ndanti woke guests lol, what are you waiting to see a hunter or chef?
@@kingdiamondscream no he used to astronauts and scientists doing cool work and sports legends. All the guests are just people parroting the same views now it's dull.
Over a million Iraqi civilians died after we lost 3000 in 9/11... Iraq wasn't even involved with 9/11.
Ask the 5 dancing Isralis
@@adrienneclarke3953 what should I ask them?
which is a very good example of why you should never go blindly a long with wars that our "leaders" assure us are just and needed
@TroyDADDY1984 it's like the current war murmurs, the israel shopping list, the false flags that will make the west act.
Blame Mossad
I am Brazilian and lived in Brazil for a long time. Unfortunately: We are entering a dictatorship. The group's politicians stole negotiations with contractors with more than $ 6 billion, some were arrested ... 178 cases tried in 3 entries in court. But the supreme cut of the country, attenuating the feathers and now these are loose. And one of them became president in an electoral process where there is "censorship" of the right candidates. They could not speak the rotten facts of communist candidates. But the communists could talk about all kinds of evil and lies about the right -wing candidates (which the republican candidate was genocidal and the guilty demon of the Covid crisis?). This was the propagation (brainwashing) that the Globo TV network put in the minds of young people and manipulable people for 2 years. And I just see that the Constitution is such that the elections must have "public count" of the vots, accessible to all, but from the electronic ballot boxes, count is no longer public. This is in disagreement with constitution. There is money left over for superfluous things (for example this year 2024 has been allocated to $ 3.2 billion - government tax waivers - to help the programs and shows of artists who manipulate young people vote for the communist government, almost everyone sells themselves only interested in public money and increased high -ranking high -ranking salary that are already charisma). But politicians refuse to approve law to make a printed vote (the vote in the system + vote at the polls) and if someone continues to insist on asking for printed vote (for possible double conference) and arrest it. This is Brazil today! Unbelievable! And worst of all, young people and students grow up unaware of the story (they don't understand what leftists were wanting to impose communism on Latin America in 50 years earlier) and they are not intelligent who grow up seeing only programming and sponsored TV GLOBO artists and artists By the leftist government ("TV Globo", which has its largest financial funding of government money through the announcements that the Communist government buys), young people are manipulated by them all the time, and think that censorship of political opponents is correct . Half of Brazil only watches TV "TV Globo" and these do not know (and I do not want to stop and think) what is happening. More or Less 50% of the media in Brazil is sponsored with $ public that the government spends without limits. All media journalist do is massacrize right -wing republican people (cancellation marketing and zombie manipulation). What has given hope is social networks. That has been successful and people can be informed of the truth of what is happening, as traditional newspapers do not. And now they want people's censorship on social networks. They want to end anything that can get them out of power and end this system. That is why they already hunted the political rights of the previous President Jair Bolsonaro, and he can no longer apply. Soon they want to arrest him. That's why I said: It is the dictatorship slowly settling in the way of Venezuela.
China connections?
yap
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Brendan O'Neill is a British pundit and author. He was the editor of Spiked from 2007 to September 2021, and is its "chief political writer".[1] He has been a columnist for The Australian, The Big Issue, and The Spectator.
Once a Trotskyist, O'Neill was formerly a member of the Revolutionary Communist Party and wrote for the party's journal Living Marxism. In 2019, O'Neill said he was a Marxist libertarian.[2][3]
This helps to explain a few things, regarding his Israel stance.
I came to the comment section because of his gaza comments to see what others thought. Ypur clarification helps a lot and is not surprising.
They are the true plague, the parasitic mind virus to beat all others.
He's such a weasel on this topic
Interesting. I was wondering if he was getting paid to misdirect, but if that's the case then it's probably just ideological.
Well can Joe Rogan tell us how Israel can do it any other way, different to every war that has gone before? Because if you have the answer for gods sake speak up and tell us before any more terrible killings happen and the war spreads.
where do you get this from?
@@darksnap89 wiki
*Live and let live only works in a society that has a shared moral framework*
totally correct, try having western values in Iran.
I guess so.
But that’s an over simplified explanation.
@@TonyMarselle it's a basic truth.
@@tidepride86 yes, nothing simplified about it.
@@tidepride86 that’s silly.
Remember, when California dumped sand in their skate parks, so kids couldn’t ride their skateboards?
Sheer Lunacy
Don’t remember that but it sounds insane. Why would that do that to a skate park??? Oh it’s Commiefornia. lol.
@@OlliGarch Because of covid, they didn't want people gathering outdoors, it was complete nonsense.
Lame
@@coyotepeyote But the politicans were out doing whatever they wanted during COVID
God bless you guys bringing into light this oppressive situation we're going through here in Brazil now for over 4 years!!!
I really appreciate this long and detailed discussion between them. They are ‘debating’ , but it stays so calm and rationale. I learned so much by being able to listen to both sides of thought and this is due to it not devolving into some kind of emotional argument. Well done to you both.
Well said.
100 years from now our great grandchildren children are going to think we were really stupid.
Not leftists, because they castrated themselves
And they actually won't be any smarter, they'll just have more information
Yep. It’s going to be 15 degrees warmer, all of our costlines are going to be undated with feet of water and they’re going to be asking you what the actual fuck you meant when you said “climate scientists are just trying to make money”
We are....
I’m going to have it on my tombstone. Unvaccinated, super straight, communist fighting, red blooded American. Loved booze boobs and guns. 😂
You know it's bad when you find yerself thinkin about how much better Life was during the Cold War
@Medusas_Barber but it objectively was if you lived in the West. It really was, trust me if you are not old enough to remember.
@@Medusas_Barber No. He is correct.
@@Medusas_Barber It was in some ways, not all.
Spoken like someone with absolutely zero historical perspective.
@@lyfsabych I bet you are a hoot at parties...
That was an excellent, thoughtful, nuanced debate on the Israel-Hamas conflict. I love this podcast. Rogan is the man!
Really enjoyed this episode. Took a turn between them pretty quickly at the end. Good to hear all the different perspectives.
I'd pay money to see this guy debate Dave Smith on the Israel/Gaza war
That’d be very refreshing
It would be exhausting because this dude would just talk in circles about how "war is hell" and how "some wars are good to fight"
This dude has zero objectivity on the topic.
Dave Smith is a POS, and why anyone listens to that clown is beyond me.
Even Joe with his amateur take pretty much dominated him on the issue, so we can only imagine how bad it would go for him against a more informed antagonist.
Im Irish. I live in Northern Ireland. There is a large "free Palestine" movement here.
By his logic, when the IRA bombed England; England would have the moral grounds to obliterate the entirety of Northern Ireland? No, they would not; and NO they did not. As someone who lives in a country whose land has been stolen and governed by foreign governments we find it easy to "feel" for others in our situation. WE DO NOT agree or accept the ways of HAMAS OR IRA! When we stand with Palestine, we are standing with the innocent "everyday" people like us. Please do not attribute our standing with fellow innocent people as some sort of justification of HAMAS actions.
Quick question. Did the Irish murder woman and children? Did the Irish kidnap 240 hostages? Did the Irish kidnap a soldier and held him for more than 5 years?
You need a lesson in history. That land belongs to Jewish people. The wailing wall and other Judaic relics far predate Islam. And don’t give me the fake argument that it is not about religion. If tomorrow all the Palestinians converted to Judaism the conflict would be over also holds true the other way round
Glad this was mentioned. I came to CZcams from Spotify specifically to see if someone else mentioned this. Why am I not suprised it's a another Irishman. The way he talked about Cromwell also made me laugh.
@@Trollstar2006 you need a lesson in morality as none of your words provide justification for Israel's actions.
Not the same argument at all.not even close buddy
Brendan has been one of the best advocates for freedom of speech and thought in the last few years in the UK.
His book is a entertaining read.
Great to see him on Joe's podcast.
His CZcams channel, Spiked online is very good too!
His value on civilian life is disgusting though… clearly has something against muslims and or palestinian’s
his covid takes make him sound like he is 60 iq lmfao
@@BoxingB0oda Naive.
@@deckleberry It's called freedom of speech.
I'm surprised you're watching Rogan after his takes on covid.
@@BoxingB0odaI don't see it, because I can comprehend his points, and there was nothing to suggest prejudice. So, I am going to ask for an example to prove you aren't just biased.
I think people are forgetting about Japan attacking Pearl Harbor and then American response to that attack
I think people are forgetting that most of the money funding these college protests is coming from the middle east, Qatar in particular and those groups have been funding groups like this since around 2014. Groups like CAIR, TIDE and several other groups with direct ties to radical Islamic orgs like the Muslim Brotherhood, along with many others, they fund "independent" journalists like Linda Sarsour, Abby Martin and Max Blumenthal to push Iranian(Shiite/Shia) narratives.
Democrats are the driving force behind it too, in 2016 Democrats got in hot water for accepting donations from those radical Muslim groups, so now they have found a way for those groups to indirectly fund their campaigns w/o having the direct links, and in the process that radical Muslim money can go towards energizing the youth vote that the Democrat party desperately needs right now with polls showing it at an all time low. Just wait, over the next couple weeks Democrats will start showing public support for the protests, showing up and speaking and all that, and then will paint the Republican party as the opposition.....and the only way to win, to beat their oppressors is to....show up Nov and vote for them and Biden.
Qatar has their motives and the Democrat party has their motives and they are working together for a common goal. The DNC are using the same tactics from 2011-12 and Occupy: It appeared like a grassroots movement, Democrats sat back and didn't approve or condemn the movement at first, they waited(knowing) for the Republican party to speak out against it for a while then Democrats swooped in and aligned themselves with the movement and painted the GOP as "others" and the opposition to Occupy's cause....That's what gave Obama the 2012 election. Young voter energy was way down(Obama's approval was down 18 points from 2008), polls right before Occupy show youth support for Obama around 45%, 6 months later that number had jumped to 65%. Democrats tactic with Occupy is what got Obama over the finish line, they are trying the same thing again.
Did he literally just say "they need their own state because WE dod that to them" MAN WHAT?! furthermore, WHO THE FUK IS WE?
The right maybe
He's referring to the Europeans
But the second part of the argument is just that Israel is there. Maybe you can play Monday Morning Quarterback and say that 75 years ago things should have happened a different way but they are there now
I think a big reason british wanted to control the land where israel is because of via maris trade route, the only route where africas natural resources passes through, and the lands is still being colonialised by the guise of corporations
@@Xlippostop thinking it’s not good for you, remove your thin foil hat and follow facts and history
Calling them blokes is sending me into crying laughter lol
Here comes this lanky bloke with a knob.
Why? They are blokes.
@@billybones6137 because it's a funny word, especially in this context
@@ado011235 It is an every day British word for men.
It's probably funnier if you're not from Britain
"all we want is the right to get married like everyone else"
I remember walking around the park in London in the "lockdown" and police on horses were riding around preventing people from sitting down in the sun.
Imagine growing up and looking at your baby pictures and there's a picture of your father breastfeeding you....we're throwing hands 😂
How misogynistic and transphobic of you😂 you better call pops a birthing person
"And there's little me, just sucking away on... dads... nipples..." 🤨
I watched an old dateline with a trans couple who decided to have children, so the ftm came off hormones to get pregnant. The maternity photo had me 💀
Mad😂
That would be a hate crime dude😂
I had Spotify but never watched the pod on there glad to see you back Joe, love this podcast you both are hopefully opening the door to the conversations that have been oppressed and need to be talked about.
You do know he doesn't read the comments... right?
It’s literally the same thing besides have idiots like us worried about comments and now having a slightly watered down version because CZcams’s bs copyright policies
Thank you Brendan O'Neill! For standing up for what is good and logical. No one should criticize if they don't have a better way of getting a necessary evil taken care of if they don't have a better answer.
Joe pulled a "so what you're saying is..." move.
LOL Brendan o Neil walks out of this looking like a Zionist shill.
@@acornhead666 If a Zionist shill is anti terrorism, please count me in. If you think the Innocents being killed are not there because they were forced or willing to stand with the terrorists I beg to differ. Normal Palestinians moved on when the IDF told them they were going there. I totally feel for the ones that were forced to stay with Hamas. What more can be done? "War is hell" is a true statement.
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@@acornhead666 Using a buzzword instead of evidence is only proof that you are biased. Critical thinking is hard, but gets easier with practice.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT JOE YOU ARE THE MAN....BEEN LISTENING TO YOU MY WHOLE LIFE, I'M A FATHER OF TWO BOYS & LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL....BESIDES THE FACT I WAS DIAGNOSED WITH FRIGGIN UNCURABLE BRAIN CANCER AT AGE 40. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK & THE KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU SHARE, YOU ARE A RARITY THIS DAY & AGE ! ! !
MY FOLKS ARE ALL ABOUT THE FCKN BULLSHIT VACCINE CRAP....I CANNOT SAY A PEEP TO THEM OR THEY GO OFF.....LOL.....I BEG THEM TO LISTEN TO YOU JOE, I TRY DAILY ! ! !
ALLEGEDLY I HAVE LESS THAN A YEAR TO LIVE....I REALLY WONDER IF MY BRAIN CANCER WAS CAUSED BY THE VACCINE....I ONLY GOT IT ONCE...BUT YA NEVER KNOW...
YA NEVER KNOW...
Dude. I wish you all the best. 🙏🏼
@@skepticalhippo6376 THANK YOU SOOO FRIGGIN MUCH MY FRIEND, THANK YOU ! ! ! RIGHT BACK AT YA ! ! !
So how long until CZcams decides to ban Joe Rogan for having these conversations?
Given that this 2.5-hour conversation was the podcast equivalent of watching paint dry, I’d say Joe will be fine.
@@PowerGem3000 Speak for yourself. Things are crazy and these discussions need to be had. CZcams has been suppressing opinions that don't walk their line, so it's safe to assume Joe's channel will be next for censorship.
No-one truly gives a shit about “these conversations”. These conversations are circuitous and inane at best. If anything he’ll get demonetized for repeatedly and drunkenly singing along with the Team America theme song for too long.
we have all put ourselves in echo chambers anyways. only people who listen to these conversations heard this conversation.
Never, for many reasons. Top most being money.
Been following spiked for many years good to see Brendan get the credit he deserves.
We must never forget that many people see stories like 1984 as the direction that human society should move, believing wholeheartedly that they know better what's best for you than you do. Write them off at your own peril...
I'm 52 and was born in 72. The series "the day after tomorrow" gave me nightmares on how I would survive the apocalypse. I was so scared and had nightmares for years after. I ended up being a soldier in the US Army and served voluntarily in 4 wars or conflicts - First Gulf, Kosovo/Macedonia/Bosnia, GWOT, GTMO, OEF and I spent 7 years in Iraq on OIF with the U.S. Dept of Defense and Department of State as a PMC. So what ever. We all get scared as children unless our parents explained things to us like propaganda, which my parents did NOT because they were busy working during stagflation.
Additionally I wasn't that scared when I was shot, stabbed and rocketed not to mention IED'ed more then once. I was still more scared as a child thinking the Nukes were going to melt all of us.
The hard part is for the people that served believing in the BS narrative, lost buddies and returned "changed" (in many different ways), had the government more or less turn there backs on them and provide only the basics, then have people say thank you for your great service when the ex soldier may still feel extremely guilty about there part in the war.
All to realize the initial intentions were lies to get support!!! American is great. The soldiers at there core are great. The puppet masters at the top pulling the strings...........🤬
so you were complicit in Albanian organ harvesting, congrats!
He lost me on the Israel /Gaza issue. This conflict is multi-layered and dates back much further than Oct 7th. He was thoughtful and spoke so eloquently about all the other social issues we're facing in the modern day yet got a bit lazy IMO with his analysis of the conflict in that region.
Yup, dates back to Arab love affair with Nazism
Right, like you know anything at all.
A lot of conservatives shit the bed on this issue lol the only reason most of them seemed reasonable for the last few years was because they were just being adversarial to their political opponents. His take is just regurgitating propaganda.
He knows more than you mate
@@junk_rig_sailor1698if he knew more he wouldn’t only reference October 7th as the start of the conflict.
Greta Thunburg was an actress. It wasn't an original idea.
She was used due to her naïveté, she seems close to realizing that, at least she’s right on the israel problem, broken clock is right twice a day etc
@@mystriddleryshe’s just a kid being played.
Why all the hate?
She’s also not really saying anything joe has not said before moving to Texas and appealing to a new demographic.
Until a few years ago he was just as goofy as her.
But now he’s your alpha guru.
Even though he literally told you at the beginning of this podcast, “if someone’s politics suddenly change and they start pushing an agenda I assume they are making money off it in some way.”
We should assume the same.
Tool
@@TonyMarselle I’m not giving any hate, I actually think she’ll turn around and become kinda cool one day, but as of now she is definitely being used by bigger players to achieve their goal. If they didn’t want that to happen, you’d have never heard of her. You seem a bit hateful yourself pal.
@TonyMarselle can you give an example of Joe doing that?
@TonyMarselle you do realize this is an internet show it doesn't matter where Joe lives he has the same audience smh are you a Democrat?
This is such a great and intelligent conversation!
Spot on Brendan regarding the moral equivalency with the Israel-Hamas War. Your exactly right.
This is arguably the most important discussion to be spreading over the entire world. This is the tipe of discussion the world leaders are supposed to be having. Well done Gentlemen, may your voices be etched in the annals of mankind.
I was waiting for Tucker 👀
Part 2
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They had dinner then went to KT, he wasn't on the pod
Loser
Tucker=simple boring plain
Yeah where’s he at
The ignorance of Joe Rogan about Israel is truly surprising. He is like a child who just cannot understand a very basic thing and Brendan O'Neill is the most patient man alive in saying the same thing over and over and over again and Joe still does not understand. Amazing.
Joe not so smart
that was my impression too.
It's very telling that people like Joe never have an answer when asked "what was Israel supposed to do?"
Joe is very far from stupid. And is not ignorant. He merely assimilates info differently than a lot of other people. Ignorance implies an unwillingness to absorb new information. Joe is far from that.
Amen to that. Yeah, poor multimillionaire Joe Rogan. What would make you feel better? Please tell us what to do to stop the perpetuation of violence that is mankind’s eternal sin. Sure makes for a good podcast though.
Regarding the 'wilful amnesia', I cannot help but think of it as internalising the totalitarian impulse.
Seeing whats going on today is terrifying. I pray that we get through it all ok.
Truth
We've made it through WAY worse lol this honestly isn't even bad when compared to other times in human history it's just weird lol we'll be fine
I think it's just going to get worse
The world is a peaceful and beautiful place if you don't look at any screens and look out your window. The only things that affect most people directly is inflation. It's time to end central banking and issue debt free money.
There’s a woman on tik tok that said “I regret ever standing up for gay rights, because it’s gotten so far outta hand” and I agree
Well if someone on tick Tok said that…. Jesus, the lack of education in America is all summed up in this post.
LOL you can definitely have gay rights without all this dudes in womens restroom type shit. We just don't fully have that right now. I get where her thought pattern is coming from tho.
It's no longer about rights. They have them. They now want superiority over everything.
The slope was always slippery but no one listened
How has gay rights gotten out of hand? That's ridiculous. Gay marriage should be legal. There's nothing more to it
Yes Joe, the Israeli army HAS to care less about the civilians of their energies than their own citizens. That’s their job. That is the point of an army!
No government ever cares about their people beyond their ablity to protect and profit from them.
It's been a need to have that perception that the governments ever did or ever would is being more obvious removed from the plan because they don't need most of us so that no longer matters anymore.
People tend to forget that when it comes to israel. They’re just protecting themselves
2:19:50 Brendan you ask why we see this one as unique? Because for decades and decades, the UN has been denouncing the atrocities committed by Israel to which you are willingly blind to. What a disgrace.
Who cares what the United nazis think? They're irrelevant
Oh, please. As if Israel is the only country the UN is denouncing "atrocities" over, not to mention all the countries it DOESN'T denounce which it should. The UN is a fucking joke.
How can i accept someone that cant accept themself
😂❤
Dammit I was expecting Tucker Carlson
Same
Part II
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Don’t worry this guy will push almost as much right wing propaganda
Why, because he was on Kill Tony? Joe already said weeks ago that they just met up for dinner, not a podcast.
He was great until Isreal came up. Shane and O'Neill would be such an apologist for neo-Ziomism.
Absolutely he talks about the previous wars not being condemned but with this one being so condemned you’d think he would do a bit more research on this topic
Israel is a beacon light for the world. ✡️
100% I wonder does he have Jewish paymasters?
I love how you keep such an open mind Joe and always on the side of whats morally right for humanity❤
Can you define Genocide? Our Secretary of State seems to have a problem defining it.
How about we go back to the War Crimes that Israel levied against Germans after WWII. Helma Kissner got 260,000 murder charges for operating the radio at Auschwitz for 5 months. Surely, those same people (Thou Shall Not Kill literally comes from their book) cant kill 13,000 children (and counting) with impunity. No definition of "genocide" is going to stick to people like that.
Its the chem trails and eclipses. For sure.
@@TheStupidDetectivWhat’s the link between an eclipse and chemtrails?!
Black out the sun with chemicals by creating a constant climate condition their selves. Igniting volcanic areas. Putting crap in the air more than us, and also putting things in water in cities. Which could be causing cancer. But these are conspiracies. Ignore me 😂
Joe - it shows a lot when all the other Arab countries won’t even take the Pali’s in. They voted Hamas in , guy!!!! They drop leaflets. Saying gtfo. Hamas , u can’t tell the diff. They wearing normal clothes idiot. They ain’t in uniforms guy. Come on
Great conversation! This is what we need now. More conversing ideas that don’t end up in personal insults and screaming over eachother.
So whens a trans advocate coming on? Because this great conversation seems to only be with one side of the table.
@@KW-ng8nd Not entirely accurate. The second half was a good debate on Gaza and principles of just war theory.
@@anonymous666951 tbf didn't watch that part. But seems the general consensus in the comments here is that it wasn't a valuable chat as the guest was supposedly biased.
@@KW-ng8nd You can't have rational conversations with irrational narcissists
Another IDF spokesman 😭
Anyone who doesn't think like you is an IDF spokesman? What are you 5 year old?
Great conversation gentleman! Thank you
We are all on a very sad track. No matter where we are on this planet. Us simple kind hearted people need to stick together. And forget all the fake absolute nonsense we are getting fed. Much love from 🇦🇺
Dang right my friend from across the pond. Despite what you hear the people of the US aren't all about war. NATO loves it though....
As a WW2 veteran once said,
"Ive come to realize there's nothing good about war. But there is good in why you fight a war."
Not that war.
I’m an Independent Latino. That was a passed war, so today’s time in eyes genocide erase it’s ok, in your eyes. Learn from the past people learn from the past never repeat the pass wars.
ya making money, stealing resources, and overthrowing governments is good
@@will.green.the American civil war was about stealing resources, making money, and overthrowing governments? Uh oh…did your cute liberal talking point get challenged!?
The why is part of the war. So those two statements are contradictory.
This guy gets it. Hitler never could have been toppled if we cried over innocent Germans, who died in their millions in a war they didn't want.
What about illegal occupation of the west bank and the taking and taking and taking of more land
I thought slightly more like Joe but hearing Brendan I have to say he’s making a lot more sense. Joe is using moral circles and and Brendan is using facts and hard lines that are hard to hear but it’s more honest
Agreed 👍
Totally agree, Brendan made some excellent points, but Joe definitely had the moral high ground.
Brendan is a pansy who couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag, yet he's all for the atrocities committed by Israel. If you and him like it so much, you should go fight for them. I do not support our own gov sponsoring them. We should turn our back on them forever.
Douglas Murray is the best on the Israel-Hamas conflict.
Joe is just plain ignorant. If he understood the history, he'd see that Israel has previously exhausted all possible options before this... and they are still CURRENTLY taking more steps than any other country to protect civilians during their attack.
He doesn't seem to grasp that the "unique barbaric" aspect of this conflict is anti-Semitism. No other country has faced the constant existential threat by its neighbors and the world.
The only surprise tbh is that Israel didn't do it earlier. And that's because they've made moral decisions that only a few other countries would've done.
Oh my gosh, Joe Rogan has finally started seeing the whole picture! This is wonderful
im so glad he pushed back the way he did. one of the few
He just told you he is making money off this sudden shift in opinion.
But you think he agrees with you so you didn’t notice.
I don’t care what joe thinks about politics.
In fact I wish he would shut the fuck up and talk about aliens or fighting or bears or something.
Politics is for idiots.
Biden is a kid sniffer.
Trump is a life long con man who hates the middle class openly.
Somehow they are the best two choices……..
he's finally un-plugged from the matrix 😂
@@snakeplissken5480 the matrix was written by two trans women.
@KW-ng8nd They're biological men who are trans. That would make them trans men.
I remember in the late 70 early 80s when I was told carbon was coming to cause a ice age by the late 90s
It still boggles me how some of us can still pretend the massive, unprecedented spikes of CO2 in the atmosphere and ozone depletion are just completely f*cking natural and acceptable, when there is 0 evidence of it happening outside of extreme, biblical events in Earth's history.
Olympic level mental gymnastics.
Why is there evidence of fossil fuel companies intentionally fudging numbers, evidence, and research on this stuff if there's nothing to worry about? Explain that, d*ckweed.
I thought is was the Ozone layer depleting?
I was in elementary from 89-96. And that’s all I heard about when it came to “climate”.
Now it’s not talked about, it’s carbon emissions they moved onto.🤷
Thank you, Joe! ☺ You always find a way to take seemingly-complicated issues & break them down to their core components. You communicate so elegantly what I know to be true, in my gut. But maybe don't have the words or the patience to properly communicate.
God bless you both! 🙏☺
Keep hittin' em with the truth! 👊
At the start when talking about the cold war .The film I watched in school was called Threads set in Sheffield anyone else? Good work Brendan explaining a gammon to Americans 🫡😂
Ah geez you lost me once this guest started shilling for Israel!
same here. Condemning Israels tactics and war crimes are not some "woke" thing if you call them out
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Thank you for having Brendan on, Joe. What an absolutely amazing guy. Should I be so bold to bring the truth like this man. I have subbed to "Spiked" and look forward to reading his books.
I'm sorry but saying hamas is only attacking because they're Jewish is such bullshit to me, if you replaced Israel with any other country but did the same actions as them hamas would attack them aswell. It isn't because they're Jewish
Wrong
Correct.
I was going through some old paperwork and I found a letter from my job that requested I be authorized to drive at certain time bc of my job. I’ll never forget this I’ll never throw that paper out.
I love Spiked online and it’s so great to see JR get Brendan on here! Didn’t disappoint either- verbose and eloquent.
Verbose isn't a compliment.
The guy sounds like he's been contracted by Israel to do propaganda, guys a straight clown 🤡
@@steven-el3sw, he meant to say _tersely verbose._
Eloquent, but NOT verbose. Verbose means 'too wordy'.
@@steven-el3sw oh yes! In my haste I confused it for a word meaning … talkative! What’s a good word for that? I meant to say it’s good that he’s got a lot to say rather than some guests who don’t speak much and need Joe to fill too many gaps…
We need Randall and Malcolm back
There’s a good reason why Randall hasn’t been back. His last episode didn’t ever air for a reason.
@@averageatom Randall Carson? can you give me a hint why? obviously you can't say on YT
Agree would love to see another Randall episode, the un Aired Episode was never released because of the guest Randall brought with him not because of Randall himself.
@averageatom thats hilarious 😂😂. Your comment will not hold up well. New episode soon. Melt.
Within the next couple weeks you will get it. Ignore the haters. People are not created to always be correct. Thinkers are important. Randall and Graham get hated on when they are wrong. The weird part is how ignored they get when they are correct.
I wasn’t worried about nuclear war in the 80s because I was too busy raising kids and trying to make a living
Does anyone find it odd that CZcams is allowing Rogan to have these discussions?
If you recall, before he went to Spotify, any "controversial" discussion on JRE, they publicly tried to censor, remove and hit him with a strike.
That exact thought crossed my mind a minute ago. Somethings up
So far its good
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@@j.w.vanderhorst736I do not remember that.
I remember him being demonetized and complaining and then trying not to cuss.
He pulled down a few episodes not you tube.
He moved to Spotify. They wanted the biggest podcast in the world back.
For sure. “Talking to people” is about to be outlawed
Are you familiar with the concept of thought-crime? It's already pretty effective in a certain group of the population
It's already happening. You can't vocally back Israel in moat of the UK now. Crazy times
@@ads13924 yes you can. Who is stopping you?
@@ads13924 literally the uk’s entire political class does what a silly thing to say
That’s more than a little melodramatic 😂
My favorite part is when Joe say, “that’s not and excuse.” He doesn’t understand that this doesn’t have to be justified to him or the population at large. Unless he wants to take responsibility for all Jews murdered in the future bc Hamas used human shields. He is too weak willed and false sense of morality doesn’t exist in reality.
"the thought that nothing is worth a war is worse". Wow, perfect saying. Yes, no one NO ONE wants to fight, but sometimes it's absolutely needed!!!
The impass in discussing Gaza, he simply is being obtuse, the hard part for me is his insistence that average people forget their history yet he seems to only look at the immediate past of this conflict. It's hard to respect that type of hypocrisy.
Who is forgetting the past? Hasn't Israel been fighting off Islamic threats since it's founding?
Ya, people always seem to gloss over the FACT that hamas is the only one committing war crimes (2 of them)
Agreed I'm at 1:34:15 and 🤦♂️ he was so accurate...but getting this wrong.
Obviously he hasn't been paying attention since about the "claims"
@@ClintByrnenah you are too gracious with him. He plays these mind gymanstics around Israels ongoing ethnic cleansing because it doesn't suit his agenda.
Its easy to bitch about confused trans people and college students not so easy to talk about Israel and it's lobby. Not good for the bottom line.
He's either stupid or evil. You can't be intelligent these days and claim that Zionism is on the side of right.
I seriously doubt JRE will never be silenced 🔕 As time rolls on, the truth is being revealed and everyone likes that. 👍
Froggs are Gæ
Not everyone, there’s a cabal of people with tiny hats that hates it
Ever, not never 😑 if you doubt it will "never" be silenced, then you're saying it's inevitable that it will be silenced 🤨
Thanks Joe re: Israel/Gaza for keeping a genuine open mind, a baseline compassion for humanity, and steadfast commitment to seeking the truth; and for understanding that just because a person can see the ideological fanaticism in some areas, doesn't mean they can't be blind to it in others. Thanks for being a real freethinker and avoiding the hyper-reflexive groupthink form of 'anti-wokism' which requires signing up to every unrelated position of a 'side,' regardless of the underlying merits of each argument on their own terms.
Also regarding Brendan's 'horrors of war' and 'unique focus' arguments, he must know that the Iraq war protest is still the largest protest that ever happened in the UK, and people were just as angry about the human toll of Vietnam (that outrage was literally era defining), as well the tactics in Afghanistan etc once we saw the leaks. But also, given what we now know of the IDF's tactics, targeting policies, rules of engagement, and ideology, even the US/UK had more care for proportionality during their modern campaigns compared to this. This level of destruction *is* unprecedented, going back to Dresden.
It's very interesting to me that people like Brendan love to 'ironically' use SJW/CRT arguments when it comes to Israel, not just to point out perceived hypocrisy (which would be fair enough), but also as another last-ditch 'gotcha' argument to defend ultra-zionism, you either think that mode of thinking is bullshit (which it is) or not. Also how pundits respond to the shutting down of free speech in Germany and pro-palestinian thought around the world is just as much of a litmus test for whether you genuinely belief in freedom of thought and speech.
He's a commie. Naturally he will defend hamas behind it all as they are a hard marxist organisation
Ive been listening to Joe since When he didn’t have to go to take a pee brake.
When he had a young, taught and athletic bladder with a powerful sphincter
Proud to say I never complied. Never stopped working doing remodels.
WE WANT TUCKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One Huge point you constantly miss Joe and is very fundamental is that over 2000 "Gaza civilians" who do not affiliate themselves with Hamas, participated in the 7th of October massacre. More then that all hostages that made it out testified that they were held in basements, attics and houses of so-called ïnnocent civilians". As someone who lived most of my life among Palestinians ( I'm originally from the Jeuda and Someria AKA west bank), I and anyone who lived amongst them will tell you that the civilians know very well what's going on and a lot of them take active part behind the scenes aiding and hiding the Terrorists (warriors freedom fighters whatever you want to call them).
Another huge point that everyone who look at the numbers constantly ignores is:
Let's say the numbers from gaza are true (which I don't buy for a second because hamas is publishing them) so lets say israel killed 30K and 10K are fightes that means 2 cevilians for 1 fighter
In Iraq the number were 1 to8 in Afghanistan 1 to 12 and the list goes on so why all of sudden 1 to 3 is genocide??
Joe, I love your shows, but I have to remind you to a few forgotten facts: The vietnamiese civilians who where napalmed by the USAF, The civilians in Fallujah who had nothing to do with Saddam or his weapons of mass destruction... Amnesia is a wonderfull thing! It is 1984, G.Orwell
2:16:20 It's insane to me that all these anti-woke guys start hiding behind woke language the moment it comes to Israel. I really want Dave Smith to have this dude on his podcast.
Their principles go bye bye when the J is involved.
me too
this dude is Jordan Peterson's coffee stained, benzo soaked, rough draft. Brendaun fucking Schaub is at least twice as geniune as this guy.
@@williampennell8567 now that you've said that we know your not genuine. Weak
Yes, great point!
My day turns from being a bad one to a good one when jre gets posted. Thanks man.
Joe thank you for caring about Brazil. The world is aware of what is happening in a country that until recently was a democracy. Not anymore.
This Brit dont understand most of America is tired of wars that make the politicians rich and their lobbyists.
As a British person I can also say we are tired of being dragged into American wars also
@@Macoosy I don't blame you, ever since 9/11 in my lifetime, its been non stop.
Didn’t Americans hop right on to fund the Ukraine war?
@@KToll5784yeah so our corrupt politicians can profit their own pockets
He’s not British.
Joe, your independent thinking and candidness are truly admirable. You consistently stand by the truth and never fail to impress!!!
Not really independent he repeats the common conservative right wing opinions basically every podcast because he knows that is his target demographic now and has to appease them by validating thier shitty opinions.
He would be advocating for the genocide if what you’re saying is true
I bet you'd be impressed by a pair of sock puppets talking to you
@@Maxibo234 if they say the truth about the genocide then ya sure
@@KW-ng8nd😂😂😢
Brendan O'Neill is one of the people I like to hear talking the last couple of years. He seems to make sense.
My Pop Pop bombed Dresden. Germans elected Nazis and paid the price. Gaza elected Hamas. You’re wrong on this one Joe. War sucks. Blame Hamas.
"That's a bingo!"
Was great until he talked in circles trying to justify Israel for 1 hr
Exactly
Ok, mr critic. You tell us what Israel should have done after Oct. 7th. He wasn’t justifying them, he was trying to explain that we have to try and see this from Israel’s perspective also, and not just blindly accept the current (left) narrative. And Joe kept asking him, so who really spun them circles?
@@abel6846lmfao keep coping with that logic. No one is saying they should go get Hamas. But bombing open air prison is not it dude stop it.
@@AlenAbdulatell Egypt to open their borders. Egypt has a massive wall built to keep gazans from coming to Egypt. I wonder why?
Mhm...
@@AlenAbdulathere is no open air prison. And if there is it is run by Hamas. Not Israel. Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005.
Thank you Joe for your work
Part 2
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LOL
Man he has his work cut out on this one… one of the shortest eps ever… for good eeason
@@DavidinthewildYeah he definitely decided to cut it short at the end. I bet the guy regrets opening up the Israel topic (he probably expected for some reason that Joe would toe the line).
When fighting monsters you should promise you won't become a monster yourself. Forget the indirect warning of "when you look into the-" because it's as simple as that. Don't become a monster.
You know some of the absurdities here in Brazil,
- President Lula's personal lawyer placed in a vacancy on the Supreme Court
- Minister of the Supreme Court retires and goes to work in the government of the Minister of Justice, and the Minister of Justice takes the position of the Supreme Court, you can see that these judges are at the service of the government and not to comply with the laws and the constitution
Thank you for bring these back to CZcams..
Real men are raised to be the strong silent type. When people say stupid things we never argue we just laugh and move on. I think it we might need to speak up
Their certainly not saying shit about men invading women's spaces. Strong and silent = pu**y.
You are supposed to speak up when you are needed bud and the need has been there
Whatever happened to Gary Cooper?
Real men, what a goof.
@@KW-ng8ndYou don't believe in biology, clown 🤡
Any video with those context boxes, I am watching the whole thing. Thanks youtube...
It’s incredible how many people come to your podcast to talk about October 7 but none of them mention how many thousands people Israel killed during the years before. As if this conflict only started in October 7.
This dude doesn’t want to know anything about what you’re saying he doesn’t care if innocent people die he’s enabling so much power to a country to do whatever the fuck it wants for an end that suits them which is hypocritical when you think about his opinions on other topics. And he’s not the only one actually lots of your guests have the same opinion, no wonder the killing never stops and it has never stopped during all those long years.
Thank heavens the childrens of this world have these two intelligent speakers on their side, thinking for them so hard. ✊❤
You think Rogan is intelligent?? Despite the unlimited amount of information he had at his disposal, he still has an illogical and irrationall fear of WW3. That's crazy and makes him look stupid.
Is this sarcasm? I hope so.
@@zanniethompson please, for the childrens bebeh.
@@zanniethompson found the bloke who likes to wear dresses. What a perv
Not including the children of Gaza (only Joe speaks up for them).
Where's Tucker? He was on Kill Tony with Joe
He has to be in a Coffin in his Native Soil during daylight hours. 🌄🧛⚰️🌃
probably many lined up beforehand
@@Joseph-wf4qgshow us on the doll where Tucker hurt you...
@@dude-manBAHAHAHA
That was a few weeks ago
Joe needs to talk to Norman Finkelstein. Hamas is a prison gang in a prison mostly filled with innocent families that deserve freedom and life
Simply not true. Most of those people support Hamas. Did you not see video of them dancing in the street after October 7th? Do you not realize that Hamas and the citizens of Gaza are deeply intertwined? That these "innocent" Palestinians train their children from a young age to hate Jews? It sucks for the babies and the truly innocent......that they are being used as human shields. Hamas is to blame for their deaths. NOT Israel or the IDF.
Maybe the inmates should recgonise the Department of Correctional Services' right to exist.
I remember when Rogan thought Candace Owens was crazy for not believing climate change was real.
He’s really been slow to catch up.
My issue is, all the power hungry people get to do exactly what they’ve always wanted, even when it wasn’t a thing.
It's not about climate change, you know why she was fired and who pushed for it.
this is the best.....the whole episode no filters...dont even know this guy and you get the whole episode
Please get Trump on
he will never have him on, too much of a puss for that.
That would be the biggest podcast on the internet.
@@armorforinnocenceJRE is doing just fine without him.
@@chlorophyllmorelikeboraphy6874of course JRE is doing fine without him. Nobody said the show needs Trump to survive. Just because you personally aren't interested doesn't mean there's not tens of millions of people who would love to hear a 3 hour conversation with Trump.
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