Why did I choose the Riese and Müller Delite? | eBike Review 2022
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- čas přidán 22. 07. 2024
- Tristan Allen could have chosen from a huge range of electric bikes when starting up Fully Charged Silverstone, but he decided on the Riese and Müller Delite. This video explains his reasons behind his decision, as well as going through the key features of the bike.
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00:00 Introduction
00:55 What are your requirements
02:25 Can eBike replace a car?
02:55 Key Features
08:49 Payment Options
09:46 Outro
#RieseandMüller #Delite #Bosch - Auta a dopravní prostředky
I'm a bit late to the party but an excellent review from someone who obviously loves his bike. Riese and Muller bikes are most desirable since there are no compromises with their builds and no fancy silly engineering.
Excellent review -thanks Tristan. This bike does seem to have it all- I'm glad you mentioned the Cycle to Work scheme- it does make the initial cost more affordable for the average commuter ....
The only full-suspended ebike which correctly connects the rear rack on the frame and not on the oscillating rear triangle.
My oh my, Mark... very good knowledge! It is a true champion, the Delite, and we wanted to do the bike justice with a personal review from Tristan himself. Who better to speak about the bike than an eBike Specialist who happens to own one!
Really informative video that's given me lots to think about as I look to replace a car early next year. Thanks for sharing.
Great to hear from you, David! Yes, unlike other inner-city 'A-B' commuter bikes, the Delite really is the full-package, and can ultimately be that car-replacement, should you want it to. If there's any other content you'd like us to produce going forward then let us know.
Excellent vid,I just got my R&M multicharger yesterday and am blown away by the quality of the engineering,I still haven't figured out to get the pedal assist going as the menus on the kiox can be overwhelming.I'm a non driver and will be using it for the school run,no other bike I could find fulfilled so many criteria,my only worry is some bellend with an angle grinder will have a go at taking it off my hands:)
I haven't seen these in the states, but I haven't really been looking. I've been on an EVELO Delta X, out of Sumner, WA and am starting my 5th year now. Time sure flies. I live in Florida where we have decent riding weather most of the year. I sold my truck 3.5 years ago and don't regret going E-bike at all. If you go this route, do your research and try not to go too cheap. That extra thousand dollars is worth it for decent quality that will last you years.
Great review. I went for the Gazelle Ultimate 380 HMB from FC. Loving it.
Ah thank you!! What a great bike, hope you're enjoying it!
Tristan the legend. Loving my Homage, can’t stop riding it. Won’t swap it, change it, go back. Thank you and thank you Fully Charged!
…just if you open a setup somewhere closer to Bath, that’d be great.
@@tangalooma7257 thank you for reaching out! Henry here, Marketing & Comms at Fully Charged and I'm also a Bath man, too! I agree, those hills aren't going to climb themselves, Fully Charged would be a great asset to all Bath folk!
Great to hear you're loving your Homage. It is such a comfortable bike. I would say alongside the Nevo3, probably the comfiest in the R&M range. I will pass on your message to Tristan, we rather like having him on camera!
I love it! I am about to buy a Tinker however. At least I think I am... I currently commute into London via train, and then a tour hour additional commute to Leeds. My idea is for an R&M bike that I can easily take on both trains and use all week between accomodation and Leeds office, then come back same way. Whilst I love the look and sound of the Delite, I think the compact option is likely the better one. Maybe a Delite for the weekends...
Can you provide a list of the options you use on your R&M Delite. Just to make sure I capture them all. Thanks! Great review. Hope this e-bike is in my future.
i bought a super delight gx rolhoff a few years back. I havee many bikes which includes pivot shuttla and a M1 spitzing. I must say the Super delight is the best.
The Delite looks great in red/orange. I sell my Delite GT Rohloff with GX Option and front rack, year 2021.
Very nice review.
Thanks, Andy! Hope you are well.
How do you keep your bike dry from the rain ?
Can a dealer order this bike without the rear rack but with the Fox suspension?
Just orderd a homage gt vario through work with a 67% discount (€8600 retail price with my options). I'll get it halfway August. I did take the biggest display and the two battery option, also the drop down sadle and the comfort pack. Can't wait to get it, to ride it.
A man of undeniable taste! Yes, the Nyon display does offer some really advanced features that make it best-in-class. A dropper is always handy, and as we always say across our stores, if you're going for the Homage, you might as well go DualBattery!
How are you liking the bike?
This guy is absolutelty right on what he is saying.
Where is your shop i only want raise and muller and i want a full suspension and handlebars where I'm sitting upright thank u brian
It will be interesting some words about the registration process
R & M no compromise bike except that the CX motor only assists up to 20 mph - no thanks. I would need the Speed motor version that assists up to 28 mph and while I was at it the automatic shifting box. Also that rack sits so high the any kind of luggage would have to be down hanging or you will hit it when throwing your leg over the bike especially with that dropper seat pushed down which you didn't mention is another big advantage in having one on a road bike. I ride a Specialized Vado 5.0 which uses the Enviolo hub and auto shifting and it is pretty great. I just miss having that rear suspension like my emt bike has so I am interested in R&M with that beautiful Rolhof but would not want to give up any of the bits on the Vado mentioned.. Auto shifting is the cats pajamas once you have tried it.
What brand is the mirror on the bike?
What's your average speed on the road ?
Is this the high speed variant?
The downside of the Bosch system is that you need to visit/pay dealer to update the software of it, whereas competition systems allow you do it yourself at home ;)
i think i will still go for Specialzied vado 3.0 belt drive as its just 2700 Euro vs this is 8K
Nice review. I am new to Electric bikes and have been doing a lot of research for my first bike. I have decided on some spec: Bosch mid-motor; Carbon Belt; Geared hub; full suspension. I have been looking at the R&M range and I'm confused about the similarities of models. How does the Delite compare with the Homage, for example?
Bob, thank you for getting in touch. The easiest way to answer this would be with a phone consultation with one of our eBike specialists. You can simply do that by booking via our website. The Homage can be set up in DualBattery, and is, of course, a step-through eBike... both are incredibly comfortable options, and have all of the above requirements... it just comes down to access and range!
Thanks for the video. Do you do all of your food shopping trips with this bike? Do you know if this bike would be suited for a trailer?
Yes, you can put a trailer onto this bike, if you wish, and we're sure you can do your shopping trips with this bike. You can take up to a whopping 60kg on the rear rack of that Delite, owing to the rear rack being mounted to the frame, and taking the weight thanks to Riese & Müller Control Technology.
This really is next level 😵
It sure is!!
lovely bike but over 7 grand is ridiculous
Yes, top-notch bike but the price tag reflects it - and more.
Pretty hard to convince the average punter that a ~$10K ebike makes rational sense. And if you're a schmuck who buys an ebike and needs financing, oh my, you've got a live one.
Hey there my friend great video, I've got the same bike up in Glasgow and have been having a hard time with my gear enviolo system, every time the mechanic in my dealership takes off the back wheel for maintenance the gear range ratio is always different it's either losing gears from the low range and recently the high gear range where I cant get a high enough gear to push beyond 20mph, there making up excuses and doesn't seem like they can fix this problem do you have any suggestions thanks
Hi Tony, thanks for getting in touch. We are asking our Head Mechanic today for you and will let you know! Thanks
Excellent thanks
@@tonyheggie3626 thanks for reaching out. We've spoken to our Head Mechanic and he said that the best thing for you to do would be to call into our service centre to ask for some advice - we wouldn't want to put out an answer on CZcams! If you could give us a call, and state that you messaged us via CZcams and asked for Carlos, he will be able to assist you on the phone. Please do bear in mind we are very shortstaffed next week and Carlos himself has been on holiday this week... I am unsure if he is back on Monday, but worth calling! Hope that was helpful and thank you for reaching out once again, Henry
@@FullychargedUK enviolo explains in a clear short video on CZcams how to reset the full range yourself.i did it after local riese Muller mechanics left me cadencing at a ridiculous rate and 10 min will solve it.wheel off ,reset the interface wheel on and you 're happy
i take my super delight on trails that i take my pivot shuttle no joke.Universal bike
Can I ask if your Riese and Müller prices have remained static since the start of the year or have you had to deal with price increases?
We've had to deal with a 6% price increase, unfortunately!
Is there a shop that rents R&M bikes in the UK or Scotland? For a bike trek holiday?
Unfortunately I don't think we know of any shops that rent R&M bikes, Daniel. We wish you well on your search.
I was thinking about buying the Superdelite, because in my head i thought, i need the range, but in reality, i need a bike for driving to work everyday, which is 18 Miles Rach way. So like you say, a delite makes more sense.
Yes, we do believe that the Delite would be a better option for you.
There is a chap on here in Canada - electricbikereview - who reviewed this bike and, boy, the motor is annoyingly noisy. Put me right off the bike. You are right about choosing a bike for what we actually do rather than what we imagine. I am usually found to be trekking the Himalayas in my mind. Right, off to Sainsbury's.
HOW MUCH IS A BATTERY IF U NEED TO REPLACE IT ? HOW LONG DOES A BATTERY LAST ???
A Bosch powered battery will last you anywhere from 3 - 6 years depending on usage and has 500 full charge cycles.
Hello, what gloves are you wearing? Where could I buy them?
Tristan was wearing Musto sailing gloves, funnily enough! (a little secret from him).
We don't stock them but you'll be able to find them somewhere! A great option, Tristan has said!
nice, but $6-8K?
oh i have had people at night complaain how bright the light is. i tell them to get sunglasses. hahahahahah
What is the range on this and has that improved in 2023 at all?
thanks for reaching out! The 2023 model is exactly the same as this model. The range is up to 80 miles on a single charge. Riese & Müller have just announced the Delite4 for Model Year 2024, which includes the Smart System from Bosch. This will get you a few more miles, but nothing substantial. Hope that helps!
But this need registering as a moped due to there higher speed i believe means , insurance and mots when due like a car also. I don't see a plate on so is it legal
am i correct sayint that the price you are paying for this bike is an investment in your health?😊
It’s an amazing bike but I just find it hard to get my head around the certain e bikes are more than a decent low mileage car.
How long before R+M produce a carbon frame ? Two 700W batteries 2023 🤔😊
John, don't make us salivate! It's a very good question, but we're pleased to see the Multicharger has the new Bosch Smart System with a 750Wh PowerTube battery. We believe the smart system is going to be more of a feature in eMTB models going into 2022, but we're sure it won't be long until we see a whopping 1,500Wh DualBattery configuration. That could get us up to Silverstone and back to London Bridge!
What jacket are you wearing? 👍
We'll ask Tristan now for you and get back to you ASAP, Rob!
@robert beckert Altura Night Vision, Tristan says!
@@FullychargedUK Thank you!
Well worth the money, grwat product
My brain and wallet say No but my heart Yes. If they would allow a 32kmh class w/o those 45kmh restrictions my brain would re consider ☺
hahah Michael... it is very much a brain versus wallet scenario isn't it! Well, The Delite does come in a 'HS' (high-speed) format, with the Performance Line Speed motor. Of course, you would have to comply to the regulations here and add a number plate bracket, and have a CBT, but this could be a solution to you?
@@FullychargedUK how fast does the PL speed motor make the bike capable of?
Whats the difference between the delite and superdelite?
AFAIK the only difference should be the dual battery.
@markotrieste is correct! The only difference comes in the DualBattery configuration. Of course, this adds a considerable amount of range to the bike, but also weight.
Nice bike but mad price for me.
Price? 😂
You get what you pay for.... research required!
Bike cannot replace the car for whole family. If you live alone - then ok. But your wife and your children may not want travel 20 km in each direction every day in winter and under rain. Also you cannot drop this bike close to supermarket because you cannot go to supermarket and be patient while you left bike which cost around 10000 eur outside.
Hi Denis, thanks for reaching out and sharing your thoughts. Whilst the Riese and Müller Delite is an ideal bike for individuals looking for a new way to get to work, we also stock a number of electric cargo bikes that are becoming an ever more popular choice of transport for families living in urban areas. Instead of running a second car, many of our customers have adopted using a cargo bike as a happier, healthier, flexible, cost effective and more climate friendly means of transport. Many of our electric cargo bikes also have compatible rain covers to keep small heads dry. In terms of your comment about locking up the Delite, we recommend customer's invest in a high quality lock such as the diamond rated new Anti-angle grinder Hiplok D1000 and a comprehensive insurance policy.
I paid 1500$. For my ebike. 750 watts and destroys hills. This is way overpriced. It is prettier than mine tho.
How much km do you a year ?
Beautiful bikes but far to expensive the boch motor and same size battery you can get in much cheaper bikes even in Halfords so really your paying for the name of course without the geard hub and rubber chain
Shem, your eye for eBike mechanics is not very commendable. With Bosch eBike components, you buy top-tier quality from one of the most reputable engineering and hardware companies on the planet. Sure, you might find eBike motors and batteries elsewhere cheaper, but Bosch sets the standard for reliability, performance, and innovation in the industry. While the price tag may seem steep, they are products that are built to last, with superior performance and durability.
@@maximiliancj yes boch are good but can buy the same motor and battery on a different model brand new bike at Halfords for 2k I mean some if these bike are 10 thousand pounds and ime certainly not a bike mechanic but I've built a few for personal use one of my bikes has the bafang bbshd which has double the torque of the boch double the performance its now done 20.000 miles with no problems and you can buy the motor and battery for 1k so like I say 10k just isn't justified but yes they are beautiful bikes but ime also not your target buyer rich old people in London probably are
@shemgresves6712
Of course you're entitled to your opinion but you are not comparing apples with apples here. Bafang and Bosch are 2 very different levels of performance and quality, hence the price.
Less carbon print, less car. I'm all for it. But every ebike like this or even cargo ones I have looked at... 110-120 kg max for the rider weight. It sucks. I'm 6'2'', no extreme obesity, cycling, longboarding for commute, but I've only been 112 kg naked and after ten days of COVID. All dressed (for winter/rain) I'm 125 kg easily. Yet. I'm riding slim chromoly fixie for three years now and 25km+ on so-so roads are fine. Except, I can't climb on long steep hills. Looks like no matter how much e-bikes is, it just can't handle nothing too special person like me.
Thanks for getting in touch. Riese & Müller Delites, Superdelites and Homages can withstand your weight. We have had many customers above 125kg who ride these bikes. Feel free to get in touch for more info if you're in the UK!
@@FullychargedUK Thank you for finding time for reply. I'm moving to Europe this November and one of your stores is at my list to check once I'll be visiting UK. I downloaded today the R&M e-bikes manual. The models you have mentioned have maximum riders weight listed as 110 kg. My concern if riding over this weight limit is going to cause warranty repair issues under company paid lease. Charger, Supercharger and Nevo maximum rider weight is listed as 125 kg (25 km/h models), btw.
@@kostyafedot551 thank you for downloading our eBikes for Business Guide!!! You will be fine, trust!
At possibly 16 times the price for some of their offerings. Ahhh…..no!
Yes, this may be true, but the quality of components and technical specification is un-paralleled as to many other bikes. Of course, this is an A-List eBike, it doesn't get much better... but it is built to last.
Always wear a helmet.
Which is why it's a great decision that Tristan wore the Hövding 3.0, the worlds safest airbag that is up to 8x safer than a traditional helmet. You can find more information surrounding the Hövding here: hovding.com/
@@FullychargedUK fair one. Court me out 😉
@@ontheroad2279 easily done!!! They are nifty products! Hope you are well and Happy New Year.
@@FullychargedUK and you!
@@FullychargedUK doesn't seem like much protection. Stated inflation time is 0.1 second, at 30 mph that's over 4 feet. In a head-on collision that gets reduced by half. NO THANKS!
Nobody cares why you chose that, because it’s 5 times more expensive than many other great brands priced below $2000, and it’s way over rated, and very few people can afford to waste thousands of dollars. But hey if you want to throw away your money, and then brag about it, to justify your poor decision, far be it from any of us to stop your charade.
Just the rohloff hub costs $1500 so I don't think your $2000 bike can compare. The bikes youre talking about are not great. They are cheap, china made and won't last. Every single component on the delite is top quality, way more reliable and backed with warranty. The seemless integration, the comfort, it all costs money. Riese and muller are one of the only brands that even have full suspension with the gates belt and rohloff speedhub. It's unique and a beautiful bike. You aren't getting a bike like this for $2000.
There isn't a sub-$2K ebike on the market that isn't a piece of shite.
I am sorry but for me a throttle is an absolute necessity. Whether on dirt or in city a throttle gives me the necessary contol.
I am retired and ride everyday, half of my riding is on dirt trails.
I am pissed because the Euroeans make fine e-bikes.
There is absolutely no contest as far as a throttle is concerned. The nuance and control with a throttle and safety comparisons are not in the same ballpark as pedal assist only.
Please you stubborn European dictators add throttles to your foreign sold e-bikes.
If it has a throttle then it is a motorcycle and not a bicycle.
If you have a throttle on your e bike then you need to comply with what is stated by law. You need a CBT test and number plate bracket and maybe insurance as the bike will be classed as a motorcycle. If you get caught you may suffer the same fate as a motorcyclist without those things. Pleading ignorance won't cut it either
You said: there are 2 types of carrier racks, one lighter and one with more capacity (like the one in the video I imagine)
Are you sure?
Yes you can have a 'carrier rack' or 'pannier rack'. One is sleek and minimal, which has around 10kg of capacity. The other is the one in the video which has around 25kg I believe.
@@maximiliancj Understand, thank you!