Why are you here? | J. Krishnamurti
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Brockwood Park, UK 1985 - Introductory Question from Question and Answer Meeting #1
'Why are you here?'
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I was in the audience when this was recorded. His presence is just as strong on video. Don’t feel you’ve missed out.
His books The first and last, freedom. The awakening of Intelligence, Krishnamurti’s Notebook and Commentaries on living ( 3rd series) I found particularly helpful. Also his biographies.
I struggled for years to understand what he was/is pointing to. He helped me see more clearly the pitfalls of life from the age of 15. I’m still trying to answer/live the question he poses at the end here (not conceptually). Aren’t we all?
It may have been at the end of this session that he said “Please if I may request .... don’t clap. If you clap you are clapping for yourself ... or” , he laughed, “clap when I’m not here”.😀
U wer so blessed to be in that presence that was JK.. my 1 regret was I never met him ..I was a teen wen first read his books n few yrs later he passed away..think 89? One of d few teachers who made u think n feel for yrself n d world.. be yr own guru he guided n his each word made sense
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My bad I was not born that time 😂
synchronicity676 An Australian Woman sat beside me at lunch after one of the talks. She said K had changed her life and wished she could thank him. She hadn’t realised he had his lunch with everyone else in the tent. I said “He’s over there”. He was standing, looking around while eating from a paper plate . She went over to him and shook his hand. I didn’t feel a need to speak to him in person. If you read his notebook you sense the quality that he was pointing to and which we are all capable of realising. Throughout his life he saw people, by appointment, individually for 20 or 30 minute sessions, several times a day. Many of these conversations are captured in the Commentaries on living series.
@@seabud6408 thanks for sharing 🙏 yes 💚
Maybe that we are all creation? Us humans, the tiger, the trees... That there isn't an outside entity who created all this, but we living beings altogheter are creation. What do you say?
"The computer is going to take over .... " - he said this in 1985 !!!
He knew, seeing how human's mind work and at the pace they were developing computer then, what would happen in future.
It hasn't "Taken over", but people believe that they are dependant on it. If t disappeared tomorrow, we would have to go back to analog. Remember when kids knew more about history and science than they did about their high score on a video game? Going back to actual learning instead of a bunch of unhappy, over-stimulated, limited idiots that most people are.
There is nothing new under the sun.
We are advancing to an intellectual precipice.
What goes up, must come down. The circle always / all-ways completes itself...
The computer had already taken over by 1985, where were you then? Soon the computer will disappear into the fabric of society, it will be like clothing, or cars, or streets, just an invisible unconscious part of existence that we no longer think about. Keyboards, how quaint.
@@andyb4708 this kind of "smart" isn't doing us any good!
"Once you are able to see yourself clearly, you can just throw away the mirror, without any lack of luck" 👏👏👏
YOU ARE RIGHT.
The most beautiful man who had dedicated his entire life to lessen the sorrows of humanity
in what way?
@@howardkendallstoupe5820 By reavealing the mist that has fallen on us.
@@Last.Dark.Emperor mist that has fallen on us
@@howardkendallstoupe5820 yes,do u see this mist,its preventing to see ourselfs in our true nature,it is the mind which is producing all thoughts,all images,all desires,pleasures,am not saying that all is not important for our realization,but it has to be realized first.
@@Last.Dark.Emperor yes i see a mist on cold mornings, is that what you mean ?
His body was dying but his energy was always new and fresh.❤
Respect.Full respect to a great philosopher,a great character,an exceptional man.Greetings from Athens,Greece.
"We all will be slaves to the computer"
This is actually happening right now Sir, and whatever you said is true word by word 🙏
and he said that in 1985. Its like he had seen the future but was too humble to mention. He even said about the universe"...and all that lives in it and out of it". He wasn't a man liberal with words, what did he mean "Out of it"?
@@kshitijbali5569 Maybe he meant that we have to use the energy and resources around us (the heat from the sun, oxygen from the air and energy from things we eat) to survive.
I love this man !!
Ani. I am with you 100% because I love this man too. May we continue to observe purely, simply and effortlessly our life as it comes to us - and to see how we sometimes try to escape or deny what we're really feeling because we're afraid to face it. It seems that the only way to go beyond is to first see what is, as it is - actually and factually. Love to you: Frank
Frank Landino
Thank you Frank.Thats very true very wise words we are all learning and teaching each other. Much love and blessings to you to:Ani
Ani Manukyan Hi Ani. I found another man on youtube that I really loved listening to you. You might be interested in what he has to say - which goes along with Krishnamurti but is a different style and has great inspiration and humor.
I trust that we are waking up to the True Self which is pure seeing and absolute awareness. All the best you. Frank
Ani Manukyan I forgot to say his name. You can look for Mooji on youtube.
okay thank you Frank Landino
I think if Krishnamurti would’ve read these comments he would feel nothing but balance because he doesn’t let his ego get the best of him. Also, he would tell us to not see him as a wise man and not put him on a pedestal but to just see him as a person who wants to help. The best thing as a society we can do is be kind to everyone and never treat someone else MORE or LESS. To just be.
Beautiful observation, but in the same time made by your ego because you can't know what he would have said, friend
Ego is the greatest trickster, he's fooled us all into thinking we are it and that it is real.
Brings tears to my eyes to see him this frail ... i man who gave his whole life for others .... only K Ji !
Respectfully, it shouldn't bring tears...that is what Krishnamurti has said all along about life
Verify please. Not the tears on eyes part. But his contribution in society. Thank you.
Then you are missing his entire Teachings
If it brings tears, it shows your heart is open in this world and that’s a brave thing
I don't see him as frail, see his mind, it's not frail. No need to pay too much attention to the body, it will get old and die. Should be tears of happiness to see he is very great :)
I do not want to lay claim to what this wonderful speaker is saying, but I think his unanswered question suggest that we can never know why we are here, and so do not surrender your entire life and amazing capacities to those who can rule over your existence convincing you that they have that answer. Even a short life filled with joy for yourself and all other Humans would be better than an unfulfilled long life enslaved to the unknowable and those who have no natural intelligence or compassion!!
I am convinced that answer lies somewhere in his talk. It may be so near that we are overlooking it.
@@rohitb1869 You might be right!! Krishnamurti was in my humble opinion one of the most intelligent persons in history, so I'm still searching his words in hope for understanding!!
@@MykolasGilbert One thing is very clear, one can not find the answer through "Brain".
Means is the end. Perhaps one need to give enough energy to that question, and in that, the process itself could be the answer.
The question is answered by you, and you are not what you think. He said find the answer. All mentations and positionalities are false.
According to his biographers, around that time (he was 90) he was wondering why people came to his talks, some of them year after year after year, without any apparent change in their lives. So he asked that particular audience at the particular time and place. As usual, it was not a philosophical question, but simply factual. What the hell are you doing here in this nasty weather (if nothing comes of it). He posed the question because he wanted the people present to ask themselves. He was also often asked through the years why he kept on talking. He answered that with the mirror metaphor. There is no use trying to divine a "philosophy" from what he says. The man was dealing with facts. You can debate opinions and theories forever, but facts you must see. Such as: your admiration, or enmity, of Krishnamurti prevents you from seeing. And as he said, once you see the facts for yourself what use is the mirror.
I am lucky as accidentally get his book *Freedom from the Known* a year back, being Indian ashamed that he is not known to most of Indians. He is a pure treasure of the whole world, simple and straight to the point. Thanks for to know him and get his conversations. Love only. What a life he live! No words can describe. 🙏💞
@@varindersharma1410 K. didn't consider himself any nationality...He said "I may have a passport..." but knowing that nationalities or any identification with a group necessarily separates. Stand alone, without being alone, and become a light unto oneself and then freedom is realized because all things that separate dissolve. Or sumtin like that.
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I would guess people came to have their anxieties quelled. Slog in life till exhaustion, then come to his teaching so attribute some meaning to their existence, have some negative emotions released, simply to go back to their old life.
Most of us look for the comfort and beauty only in answers. Its so powerful that his questions are rather more comforting to listen and understand. Just by paying attention to his questions one can solve the question without the answer. So profound intelligence that can make someone realize the answer from just the question.No answer needed. That's the only thing he keeps asking people to do in all his talks. Pay Attention!.......Lucky to be living in this life to see him at least on CZcams.
All his questions contain answers . It took me some time to get the point . And actually one is to listen/attend very carefully to the question .
I hv never seen such a peaceful face ......tremendous energy in words......
No just never
@@bird_up he looks disappointed
Great admiration for this brilliant man!
Everything in this world is temporary. But the sound of that jet plane is permanent ❤️
Sir
Truly a special man that he would spend his whole life trying to share something that can’t be known to reach us. That he struggles, that he tries even in old age and fragility. This is love talking. It would have been fitting were he to have passed in front of his audience slumping in his chair. That last effort on his breath. Perhaps then we would listen and see he has taken responsibility. That he has found his mission, his station in life, the reason and honored it. This man was god talking to us, god in each brain forgotten. We are listening Krishnamurti please forgive the time it takes. Perhaps millennium but it has to start with listening. Real listening, true listening, honest listening. Thank you for spending your life talking to us.
Beautifully written with heartfelt gratitude
So powerful energy! Love, love, thank you K! ❤️❤️❤️
Despite such intelligence, the sheer humility of this man, boggles my mind. I have quite often gone through his videos twice to understand his message.
I wish I could meet you my great teacher🌹I absolutely learned alot from your clear wise words, learned to live more in peace and to choose silence when it confused. Bless and love upon you sir🙏
Thank you for sharing J. Krishnamurti's wisdom! you are truly awesome and wonderful as always ^^
Sometimes I'm you, sometimes I'm me.
Sometimes I'm self, sometimes I'm other.
Sometimes we remember, sometimes we forget.
Does my skin separate me from all or join me to it?
Meaningless are words. If you forget words you'll remember.
As an infant seeing reality for the first time, you had no words:
All was One. Try to remember.
In your words is me and in me i see you
We are all one self.
Beautiful
@@DihelsonMendonca so why when i suffer it's only me that can feel the pain ?
@@stevenwhite5560 Good Question!! I Need Answers For That One Myself ..
Every time I hear Sir JK he reveals something new in his dialogue with me. What an extraordinary human being.
We are spiritual beings on a brief human journey. We chose to be here. It is our journey to remember why. 🙏🏻
Right on the spot
Are you serious?
@@gcampa infact i am
@@mauricelamain1978 I wasn't asking you, but your answer is welcome. How would you know that? Are you telling me both of you are super humans?
@@gcampa infact i am not more or less what you claim us to be, we come all from the same source as i feel it within myself
We are never anywhere but always here. We are just playing with words and mind out of quorisity. If we had no words would still such questions pop up in our mind ? No.There's no place other than here. We go nowhere. We are everywhere. His exact saying.
Wittgenstein
What a beautiful teacher!!!
Whenever I listen to sir JK, I feel so much difference between him and the babas. We should have been blessed with more good people like sir JK. Every baba is afraid of him
I'm 23 years old and it's been a year since I found krishnamurti. His lectures made me think about my relationship with the world, I think I have changed alot in many ways. To everyone who says you have to be very sharp to get what he is saying, what you need is only a strong interest to find out for yourself. If you have that you can't stop yourself from looking.
I'm 24 right now and it's been more than 2 years since I found Krishnamurthi and I couldn't agree more with what u have said. In the initial days I found it difficult to make sense of what he was saying probably becoz of my conditioned mind but as I gave time I began to understand, perceive and started living by the words it really brought a revolution in my life. I'm really grateful .😊
@@faiazmd1330You are so lucky to think on jk. I am 56. You have full life to enjoy 😅
How did you change. Do you see the world different from you? What changes you made?
yay! i am also 23
I'm 21 my brain is a lot damaged aready but I'm still figthing to make something good in this life
Very graceful person and lecture gives the vibrations of peace,I wish I could have met this God like person .
A true world teacher.. Greatest among the Greats..
There is no reason why we are here. We can only ask ourselves and come up with many speculations. Its a human thing to always ask questions and seek for an answer. There's no absolute answer to these question.
I agree :)
I think he was referring to why were they there, listening to him. And not the filosophical stuff.
Thanks k ji
Once we listen to his voice and speech...we will get the peace inside
So profound! He mentions the taking over by computers ( what is a fact, now) and questions the capacity of watching Nature and its beauty)! Many (many) thanks.
Michael Rivadavia i
U can see beyond time after kundilini awakening u get connected to biggest computer in all that exists.
K - My love♥♥
Mansi Sharma 🙏🌹
Don't know but something interesting about this man. My respects
Beautiful.
Thank you and immense gratitude for sharing this and making this available for generations 🙏🏾
..he is amazing.
Wisdom itself speaking 🙏
I am blessed to listen to this video
I love him!
We are here because we need crutches in spite of having healthy pair of legs, we are scared of stepping into the unknown. We refuse to be the step, though we would be happily follow the trail if someone like K carves it out for us.
A GREAT Man x
Brilliant man. No Krishnamurti talk would be complete without a plane flying overhead.
What I appreciate about this teacher is he's real. Not always right or clear on everything yet humble and always asking questions. Dramatic speaker? Yes. Incorrect at times? Yes. The moment you proclaim to know something for certain you don't know it. Understand that if you like.
Interesting paradox.. if you're right in your statement, then you're also wrong and don't know it. (you're proclaiming a truth, then by your logic stating that you must not know it). Not saying this in a bad way, it's just interesting :)
An intellectualist to the core! Brilliant investigation of Who am I?
Thank you …. calm listening and thought provoking even in my old age.
Me too in my sleepless nights
We r here to hear only... the voice of God😊
Strange that we are able to see this video because of the technology advancement .So the unbecoming has led to the becoming .
Like a wave curling in and reflecting itself in itself, right before crashing out.
Dont know who he is,but he hits the nail on the head on a lot of subjects...
I love krishnamurti ji
excellent! thank you for sharing this
He is great
Ultimate
..beautifully answered.
I love this man!
Love from penda
The highest peak of consciousness, he is the Everest of meditation and consciousness,,,, he is the ultimate master and I know truth can not be told but he was trying his best and said the truth at its maximum level,,,,, he trying to tell the truth as much as possible on earth ever
Thanks for uploading the video
I read his book recently and definitely recommend it to everyone.
Which one? Name please!
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"The Fly of the Eagle", "The Awakening of Intelligence", Krishnamurti's Notebook", and "Education & the Significance of Life"; they are my favourites.
Greatest beauty endeavour ever sir jk, sad to miss his presence that beauty esctasy..he was very direct unbiased honest. Rare modern Buddha so to say, inner engineering catalyst.
I am here, because i have always been here, and will always come back here
Avidya Void come back from where? And why will you go? And why will you come back?
We are spiritual beings on a brief human journey. We all chose to be here. It is our journey to remember why. 🙏🏻
@@Drdpj831 just HERE and NOW.
Really? Are you serious?
One of the greatest minds of our time. The apotheosis of pedagogy.
he was a genius.
Sin duda no entiendo nada de lo que dice... pero me transmite un cariño, amor, ternura, dulce tranquilidad y calma...
He is the most humble I have ever seen, sweet little man, I am sure he has left the body some time ago, Namaste ~
He was not humble! He was energetic and passionate. He said, My only concern is to set man free-- of gurus, leaders and wars... that is not humility,which William Blake said "is only doubt, and does the Sun and Moon put out." But he was simple in his ways, and very beautiful
Master Oogway
Gratitude
Damn I wish I could have met him. Can't help but admire this man, how sharp and sane he is - Even though maybe he'd say that gets in the way of my learning about these things.
We are “meeting” j k each time still today if we are really listening to him I mean beyond words ❤️🙏🙏
Krisnamurti is great man .
Once he starts to discuss the emerging technologies (it was 1985), he reveals his extraordinary vision and understanding.
Feel the flow of energy from 9:13 ...got goosebumps
That was an airplane !
Yeah its the Kundalini awakening :D
Just profound answer.
Have a purpose of coming & being here. What we believe & Why
This question is what intrigues me way more than what happens after death..
The answer is that, you can never find out, or whether you can or cannot, is not a question anyone can answer. The human brain is capable of great things, but knowing the truth to everything is beyond its reach.
"There is nothing in ourselves that is ourselves"
We are here to remember ourselfs,to learn all what we are not,to realize what we really are,but our mind from the start teaches us to use imagination,so we always imagine what we are before looking what we are,what are u before imagining,before image,its yust u,its yust we as one,dont look outside yourself for yourself,close your eyes and see what u are.
To try to answer his question:
I think our brains have evolved over many years in the search of exploring the unknown. To be able to grow bit by bit, generation by generation (when we are not stuck with fear). We now have extra-ordinary brains as he said, but where will we be in another 1000 years if we keep striving to learn, to accomplish, to explore? We are also where we are today because people strived for a better future, more information, greater experiences generations before us. When I think about "the striving", I also think about the word "flow". Because to be alive you have to move. Nothing can stand absolutly 100% still and be alive. Not an ant, not a tree, not the river, no human.
So: we are formed and shaped by the striving/exploration of all things before us, which generate a new understanding and more striving/exploration in the furture, which again will shape the world for another tomorrow. Are we moving towards something? I do not know. But I feel its like my imagination. I get a thought, a problem to solve, something to ponder on from a friend, family member or and observation. And a new world of understanding and experience can grow out of it. Its like we like we live in an physical imagination xD
An incredible man no doubt. But every time I listen to him, I get depressed. He tends to shatter all my illusions.
Is it because you're seeking pleasure in his answers? It's hard to be saddened when one has zero expectations.
@@zqzj so what's the point of listening if you expect to learn nothing?
@@markopolo3435 I don't know what to expect, it could be nothing, it could be life changing. Expecting to learn nothing is an expectation in itself and thus it is not the same as having no expectations. Having no expectations is like filming and recording without any sort of filter, but having an expectation to learn nothing is like filming without film to record on. I hope I've provided some clarity, just trying to help because I know exactly what depressed feeling you're talking about.
You get depressed because he hits straight on your and our disbeliefs (false illusions).
Years back when i used to hear him i got very insecure and afraid. But life has bring me back to him. Because he is truth.
@@zqzj the gist of his whole talk is to un-learn and not to learn something new. Basically he wants us to be free of memory.
Interesting timing in my life for this most profound of questions. I like that he asked it of himself as well. What am I doing? I think that we ask this question, because we need the feeling of "having a use", which is nothing but an intellectual hobbyhorse. There is no use that we can understand. This leads to a kind of anxiety. The answer to the question is trust in whatever put us here (even if that is "just" evolution, which in my mind is more wonderfully complex than any human conception of God can ever be) and stopping the attachement of such importance to this blink in eternity that we are here.
It is of the utmost imporance that whatever happens now, happens exactly as it is happening. There is nothing I can do to stop it or further it, all I can be is a thankful witness and pay attention.
So why did I decide to listen to the speaker? Why is it important that I know? Or is it the intention of the speaker that we question the question and thereby our motivation to do anything and the perceived importance thereof?
no diff between speaker and spoke, only empty centers on that wheel, 'ready woke
Watching this on my phone is the contradiction to what K mentioned in the video about computers. Not that technology is not a boon but it would definitely have been a blessing to see him speak live once!
He appeals to those who enjoy intellectual stimulation and being told that no inner discipline is necessary to realize enlightenment.
well, is it necessary?
@@janekbrat6951 The repeated suffering that comes from an undisciplined mind will also eventually open the heart to enlightenment.
@@johnf153 Sure but that everybody would be enlighten already,but what is even elightement,its a mere realization of all that ur not,and when u remove all that ur not even yourself,something still remains,that something when realized is that fancy word all are using,that word is missleading as much as god word,there is only self and beyond self is no words to describe that is u and we.
很有能量，老而彌堅
We are here to be lost !
You mean, the Original Self wants to be lost, so we can find ourSelf?
If you indulge yourself in such questions you will go crazy. Thinking about it won't help. The only answer to that question is that you won't find any answer and just give up on that question. When that happens you will understand.
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K......❤️
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Know humanity
IF YOU ARE READING THIS THEN YOU ARE ALIVE...
WHY ARE YOU HERE…TO ADVANCE THE NEXT GENERATION, BY MAKING YOURSELF BETTER?
IF YOU AGREE, MAYBE NOW YOU KNOW THE WHY AND THE WHO...
HOW?...LOOK WITHIN WITHOUT JUDGEMENT NOR FEAR
WHEN?...START NOW, ITS NOT TOO LATE OR TOO EARLY
Love ❤️🌹
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Love u 💟 so much jk
I hope he will be here forever to teech us!
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The truth will find us
When I was a teen and everyone was talking about a book, 'the art of love' it made me want to throw up.. at that time I got 'freedom from the known'. and read what JK said about love. what he said was what i saw as real. hearing the truth made me feel less crazy.
Me too 2 🤪isn't it awesome to find some truth in all this madness!✌ And to think there was a solution the whole time I never looked hard enough !!!!! you wouldn't believe what I owe this man$$ his understanding of life is a lot more in depth then most!!
What did he say about love?
Ask Google, it will give you the answer.
Being born to creative expression
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Answer is we ourselves.
Evidence is whatever u see in front of yr eyes.
Reason for it ie why? ie for experiencing .
Result of experience is JOY.
but we face miseries.. Reason for it is different for everyone.
When u remove all differenraces u get to that result which u r born for or say for experiencing.