Sadhguru on Jiddu Krishnamurti & His Life
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The ability to observe without judgement is the highest form of intelligence -jk.
Without evaluation..
And this exact statement is a judgement too
Exactly, that is the art of listening without having to choose or criticise, just listen and expand the knowledge , whoever is talking guru or not is saying something, either it touches your heart or it goes to empty space
A stone observes you without judgement.
All inteligence has a purpose, that guru words are for pretencious pseudo thinkers.
What do you, guys think about the teachings of Eckhart Tolle ?
Jk said " i dont want followers and i mean it, because the moment you follow someone you cease to follow the truth" for real he was so devoted to make people free of all theories all gurus
His teachings are a form of Zen which can bring a sense of peace but true enlightenment requires a great teacher. I know, I have one. Falun Gong.
But he got a lot of followers by saying that!If he really didn't want any followers why was he up on stage in the first place?....sure wasn't Xfactor
@@randybackgammon890 It appears that he was from the school of Zen which is quite a low school of enlightenment based on a misunderstanding of the Buddha's words. We all need a great master...........................falundafa
@@randybackgammon890 to impart wisdom and knowledge. That is not being "up on stage"
@@astroradha7124 ok.But as I say if he dosnt want any followers why does he put himself in a position to hold audience. 'If you follow someone you don't follow the truth'...his words. What's the point of everyone turning up if that's the central msg.
"Do not hold on to anything, not even me." - That is exactly what he left for us.
Compared to Falun Dafa he was an elementary school teacher.
@@jeffforsythe9514You're here as well 😭
I met J Krishnamurti when I was a child, in the UK. My father took us to listen to him, and I was lucky enough to be standing next to him in the queue for lunch. I wanted to say something to him so I picked up a bowl of salad dressing and offered it to him. He took some, and smiled at me, saying thank you.
Was it Ranch? All kidding aside, Murti teaches at a very low level and if you want the highest level available..................Falun Gong.
@@jeffforsythe9514 It was mayonnaise.
@@jeffforsythe9514wrong
Was it Ranch?
Wow, smiled and said thank you to a giving child.....obviously the mark of a great man
The easiest way to escape Krishnamurti's teaching is to say that he is only for razor-sharp intellectual people because supporting JK's teaching is the ending of the guru business. JK's teaching is very simple and anybody can understand it.
Why would anybody want to escape his teachings?
What a striking comment
His was really an intellectual person. He sees everything without any judgement.
This guy gets it.
You might get Krishnamurthy ji's teachings because you might be intrested in it ,but for some one who is not intrested it's not gone work at all.
Dear Sadhguru, with all my love and respect to you, would like to make a comment here. J.K was understood by lots of people, including my self, he was deeply intelligent not intellectual! Intelligence comes from within, it is innate, while intellectuality is acquired by external gathering of learnings. J.Krishnamurti was an original seeker and a highly intelligent being only because he could be present continuously, without judgments in the now. His philosophy was mere observation of inner and outer movements till the point as to where the observed and the observer were one. When I studied him it was so clear to me, all that he said, a revelation and a shock! It gave my life a quite different turn in many ways. The reason why so many spiritual leaders today don’t even mention him is not because he was not understood but because they refuse to admit that the base of all their teachings comes from him. I think it is from complex of inferiority. His philosophy is like a stepping stone to everything else ever said. I can only compare his method to Socrates from ancient Greece. And he left a living legacy behind, with his schools and lively recorded teachings 🙏🙏🙏🙏namaskaram ♥️♥️🌈
Yes sir 🎵
Absolute truth ❤️
True
agree
fani ragoussi, You are so correct! (Comment - No Sadhgura did not make a comment!). my dear fani, I share your views 100%. PS. together J.Krishnamurti. The truth will set you free!
Very Few people see this truth! (But You and me See the truth in what Krishnamurti Say!). I send love to you.
"Never seek. When you seek, you find. You find what you sought." -J.K
Meaning?
so if doesn't seek anything, one gets nothing? 🤔
His teachings can only take you so far, Falun Gong can take you all the Way.
What i understood is; there is nothing for a soul to be sought. If we are seeking anything then we consciously or unconsciously indulging the sense of I(physical) which is a cycle of further questions and answers like..... No end at all. So be content with what you have and start travelling inward. I hope it will help the aspirant/seeker. Hare Krishna.
@@sarmakameshwar9085We all have a huge amount of black karma which would take many lifetimes of devotion and clean living to remove before we could return to heaven. A great master, Master Li Hongzhi, can remove a huge amount of that karma for you allowing enlightenment in this lifetime. That is all.
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society."
-J. Krishnamurti
అన్న మీరు తెలుగు వారా ?
Wow, he said this?! I'm glad I learned this!
No. He didn't say this.
@@prabachann who said it
@@lydiamulfinger6781 official channel of JK mentioned it. They said, there is no where to be found of this saying.
The moment you follow someone you cease to follow Truth - JK.
That´s why I never followed JK !
@@DihelsonMendonca that's what his first teaching. Not to follow even himself. In a way he made you follow him. Think about it my friend
@@jiavudeenrathinamohamed844 That's how human brain works, You say them 'Dont' and they will do the exact same thing.
@ Kay Pandian... The Buddha said it this way "Make yourself the light, Make the Truth the Light and do not rely on persons... and do not rely on what I say or what someone else says". And this is why respect JK so much!
@@jiavudeenrathinamohamed844 :-D
*We all want to be famous people, and the moment we want to be something we are no longer free* .
_ Jk
that's common sense/basic psychology /observation . Bound to duty or karma or dharma (disciplined path 1 is following).
*What do you, guys think about the teachings of Eckhart Tolle ?*
He is great- he has learned the wisdom of dharmic traditions (Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism etc.), experienced great consciousness, practiced mysticism and made his learnings available in his language which is quite good especially for for people who are not from dharmic traditions.
This is beautiful
While this is true for "yogis" of a specific kind, this doesn't hold well for everyone. How about Karma Siddhanta? It is the foundation of almost all metaphysical concepts especially in the spiritual mahadhara of sanatana Dharma. In bhakti yoga Krishna himself says, for those who can understand "god" in a formless way it is good, but, since it is almost not possible for everyone, Karma is the way - to know "namaha" "that which is not" . So, this is good for JK and likewise for RamanaMaharshi, may be also for Srirama krishna paramhans, but we must not follow that path. It is like because Adishankara swalloed molten iron orated Nirvana shatkam, you can do it too . No. No way. While "following"is good, it is also important to follow that which you can. So it is imp to know who it applies and appeals to. If you tell the above to a common man, it is very likely you will send him down ironically. It might do so less good. That's why Karma Siddhanta is practiced widely.
To repeat, and summarize, I am not saying jk is right or wrong, I'm saying we must choose to follow what he said carefully. Because he is a "dhara" and we? We are still the fishes trying find our way.
JK Never spoke about anybody´s life, never interfered with anyone or anything illusionary. He was only concern about human problems at the grassroots level and he started to work on it. His teachings are so meaningful, realistic, and very simple to understand. Such a great soul he was.
But he don't believe in soul.... 🙄
Thats why he never allow to follow any Guru.
@@hpraxo1596 because concept of soul and mysticism for kids
True bro.
@A Wanderer 😅sir .... Mei yhi keh rha Hu aaap ne mujhe kyu msg kiya
I seriously think JK is light years ahead of any guru 💯
Agreed!!! ANY GURU... If you understand!
Peter said the same about Paul, that what Paul wrote and spoke not everyone understood .. This is how Krishnamurti was .. Not everyone understood them, because his words were not for everyone.
I'm neither my body nor my mind , I'm my observation.💝
@@akhilvijayakumar5235 Perfect!!!
@@thalescarmona 😀😀😀😀
"You must understand the whole of life, not just one little part of it. That is why you must read, that is why you must look at the skies, that is why you must sing, and dance, and write poems, and suffer, and understand, for all that is life."
~ Jiddu Krishnamurti
It seems to be more philosophical
@@amitbhatt876 ..... reading novel vs watching movie adaptations! same logic.....
"to read is fun-to-mental... READ!!! its not illegal yet" - Eddie Griffin
Hey thanks
this is a single sentence out of book and can be misconstrued...JK said that he didn't bother with reading even...this quote should be presented with the rest of the paragraph it is apart of.
Enlightening requires a kind heart, much suffering and a great master..............falun dafa
J.Krishnamurti siad - "Please dont believe whatever i say sirs. Please TEST it yourself to see if it is Truth. Whether if it works"
@Hari Thank you!
This is the mark of someone who wants to set your free!!
Great jk😌🙏
Pehle istmal karo phir biswas karo ⌚
That's what said by siddhartha. The buddha...
Buddha is the one who said it some 2500 years ago! JK was just repeating what the great Buddha said!
Krishnamurti was the first spiritual teacher who was able to get through to me, and it was precisely because of his razor sharp intellect that he was able to. So while he's not for everyone, I think he's extremely important for people with strong analytical minds, because he is able to use the intellect to cut through veils that people have built up with their own intellect.
Remember he really wasn't spiritual he was more of the mind and presence
I was 17 back in 1978. Life was meaningless. No direction in my life. No internet only books. So a book came into my life and it changed all my awareness of my world. It was never the same no more. J k s book on awareness and transformation. The world needed a man like this to prepare what will come after in conciousness. There is no coincidences in life only preplanned.
Hello, do you know the name of this book?
Yes, good start, now, carry on.....................falundafa
And that is exactly why I am now directing you to look at Falun Dafa.
I love Sadhguru and Krishnamurti It's my life....thanks...
@@sylviavanrhijn4474 You are stuck in kindergarten using the word love, remember this, you Fall in love.
JK’s total honesty, no teacher can truly manifest🙏
Kamlesh Reesaul 《Lives in the shadow with Krishnamurti》is not a fair book , besides , he never denied the relationship . There’s explications from the other side !
In fact , I was referring to his honest observations of human nature&the way of the world !
Compared to the teachings of Falun Dafa, JK's are at a very elementary school level
Absolute honesty is spirituality - Sri Sivan SAR
As if you know all teachers, try being truthful...........falundafa
Jk's face, even when not smiling, had love emanating, unconditionally, making you feel a rare warmth. He generally sat straight-backed, while speaking, giving out a stiff demeanour, but his face looked of an affectionate father and an adoring mother syncd together! Not advising or suggesting the listener to follow him or agree with him..mostly making the listener''s mind active in its own way! Rather he repeated the same thought lines, looking at it from angles, i feel to help us focus on the simple essence of life, than get lost following myriad of pathways to nowhere! (My feeling!)
There are thousands of elightened beings living in the great mountains of China, some many hundreds of years old. ...............falun dafa.
He probably was from the Zen School which does not believe in having a master. We all need a great master to reach higher plateaus....................faalundafa
His teaching are along the same lines as Zen which is a very limited form of Buddhism. Falun Dafa is limitless.
@@jeffforsythe9514 disagree
@@MrRanvir69 Sorry, you are not allowed to disagree.
How I miss my Jiddu.
The bravest of the brave.
Told the truth even when all else would collapse.
Most sincere and honest to himself and the rest.
Most bitter of truth,
In the kindest and sweetest of truth.
Don't....he is inside of you...
I am seeing many comments critical to Sadhguru here. I read and followed JK teachings extensively 25 years ago, and that altered my understanding about myself completely. Especially his book “Freedom from the known”, I still have in my library. Both JK and Sadhguru are enlightened, but the methods both have adopted to communicate are totally different. JK’s method, I have to say, is definitely liberating, as he cautions us what all we should not do. But he never divulged as to what to do and how to achieve it. Jk definitely brought me clarity, but the profound inner experience only came when I followed Sadhguru.
I agree. An intellectual satisfaction is only part of it. It’s like using one wheel to drive. Understanding it through experience adds more balance or an extra wheel to navigate.
@@ujjalboruah4545 what is the game?
@@ujjalboruah4545 is knowledge the perception of the mind… as heat is to the perception of fire? with this Knowledge, is one able to penetrate into is beyond known and unknown? Is this the Inquiry?
@@ujjalboruah4545 it took a very long time of inquiry for me to realize, it is the inattention that problems only seem to appear. This comes to mind when one says, “there are so many distractions” but the distractions exist because one is not really really paying attention to what’s really going on. I think this is why jk emphasis having complete attention giving all your energy to that - being aware of what’s going on. So In that ‘experience’ one become more alive. But that experience becomes an experience when the mind gets in the way (separation kicks in)
@@ujjalboruah4545 that’s where the inquiry continue… why does one keep saying they’re having an experience when there is no experiencer.
The fragrance is still alive and will remain so for eternity.
Thank you for this comment!! Peace and Joy Always!!!
*LMAOROTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*
No that's just BO!😂
JK fragrance still above any other "fragrance" 4ever!!!
Fragrance ! I did't understand sir.
I came here after watching many of Jk videos n i must say i agree with Khalil Jibran..JK hit my heart n made me cry with love..you have to be sensitive to understand him.
jk is an immortal timeless philosophy of life, left us a great legacy
😑
Lol
His teachings can only take you so far, Falun Gong can take you all the Way.
@@jeffforsythe9514 nobody can take you
@@francescoli306 Because God holds me in His hands, good luck.
From the past 10 years I have been following Jiddu, he is ultimate n everything. Nobody can replace his place.
Absolutely! He is truly one of a kind. He leads you into the truth...where there is no JK... there is just the truth. Because truth contains no self.
Absolutely true 👍
My first ever introduction to spirituality - J Krishnamurti's notebook.🙏🙏
Commentaries on living?
Reading the notebook right now!
Hey,
In which way, JK have changed you ? Please elaborate 🙏
JK was my first introduction to critical thinking - thank you... I attended one of his meetings in Australia and was fasting with a group at a commune. I will never forget what he said about fasting: "A shoddy mind fasting is still a shoddy mind" LOL
lol
His teachings can only take you so far, Falun Gong can take you all the Way.
You attended …in Australia. So how old are you faith .?
@@jeffforsythe9514 The leader has stated that he is a bodhisatva , ( self proclaimed) and So do you really believe that he places a falun in your stomach . . .? What a lot of horse hockey .It’s of real concern that people are so gullible and believe anything that is suggested to them
@@Spartan21blue First of all a bodhisatva is a female buddha. He has never claimed to be one. He is an enlightened being and removed more than half of the black karma that was covering my soul. I cried for a month. One hundred million practitioners follow his teachings. You believe what you want, good luck. You probably think that you live in a democracy while the rich have always made all the laws for the rich, so who's gullible?
The way Sadhguru is describing about JK's teachings in not at all appropriate, his way was not for sharp intellectual people but for those who are serious enough and willing enough to listen and examine their own life. Anybody can listen to JK and with choice-less awareness observe himself or herself and get out of the mess that they are caught in their life and see the eternal truth.
No one wants to say anyone superior to himself. After all, sadhguru has too accomplished a lot.
When you say you appropriate? Where do you get this feeling? If you observe them both, they both have some degree of sameness or union. The thing is, Sadhguru tackles a broad aspect while JK is purely intellectual. Both teachings can be used by someone to improve their functionality in this world. When you go to the kitchen, you don't have a single absolute tool to use in every type of work. You use knife, chopping board, fork, spoon, plates etc. Everything is incremental for you to come at a stage where you have to eat and this becomes your body.
@shobhit thapliyal why do you guys get this feeling that Sadhguru is downplaying JK? I listen to them both. I use their both wisdom. Does JK need protection from you or even his followers? If you've read and listen to JK, why have this feeling that his principle is being trampled by Sadhguru?
Yes, that is the crux of the matter 🤣
@shobhit thapliyal true.
When I understand myself, I understand you and out of that understanding comes love.- JK
His teaching was at elementary school level. For PHD level.................Falun Dafa.
Love is something that you Fall in. Compassion is Divine.............Falun Dafa.
Unfortunately most of Telugu people don't even know about the great Krishna Murthy! Very unfortunate
I didn't even hear His name till 1985 .
It doesn't matter . Whole universe knows His greatness now ! I take advantage of that PRIDE !
Pls don't make everything regional and close yourself by boundaries.
@@tanunm4966 exactly
Yes .... you’re absolutely right
The Telugus have reached a pitiful stage. They've split up their state, and now Andra may have three capital cities. What a joke of a people they have become. Speaking of JK how about this, If you ask them who Nagarjuna is, the first thing they will tell you is that he is an actor. SMH
Please don't have background music, very distracting. Thank you.
Hey audio engineer! The music's not loud enough..I can still hear him talking.
True that 😂
Should you concentrate on the music or his speech?
@@GokuBlackEdits let’s understand this. See, let’s assume the background music is reasonably low so that the clarity of Sadhguru’s voice will politely come trough our ear. Isn’t way better?
Halo?
@@rafatadmajayaid i see what you did there 😏😂
Don't know why they do this. They would put loud music behind the sermon on the mount.
J k change my everything. I owe my life to this beautiful man . He points out everything as it is.
Great to see an Assamese in the comment box.....
In which way, JK have changed you ? Please 🙏
The teachings of Falun Gong will bring you to an even higher state of enlightenment. Kindness and integrity are the only requirements.
J.Krishnamurti -"Liberation from Gurus is the Greatest form of Liberation, including that of the speaker, if incase you consider me as a Guru"
UG krishnamurti
I fact-checked this was never said.
How do you gain experience and knowledge then?
@@VSM101 not necessary he has to say, it's the bottom line of his philosophy.
Liberation from spirituality is greater, as the guru is just spiritual paraphernalia.
JK is beyond reach of any Guru, be it Sadguru or any other Guru. Most of the Gurus think JK is injurious to their 'guru' business.
I think that's what Sahguru said, lol. Thus paradoxically, Sadhguru "got it".
Could you explain to me sir, which I would deeply appreciate, what made "JK" "out of reach" of anyone with the epithet of "guru", and I will add those with the epithet of "spiritual leaders? "and" political leaders." Is that quality only for certain individuals?
@@jmm8193 out of reach, in the sense probably that you won't really have the depth that he had, or understand the things he said at the same level, or at least In the same way, which may be partially true, but it's just another one of those cases where people deify someone whose knowledge or ability are far beyond their own.
But he's specifically talk about gurus so he could mean something else I suppose.
@@NoUsernamae
Another "smarty pants"
Let me ask you my friend, who is that "he" you referring to? And what is it that, according to you, I am not able to understand? It seems that you are not "out of reach". If you understand PLEASE explain to me what it is that you "know" that you "understand", to write me to respond with those words. Truly I inform you that first of all, the understanding of what is TRUE, of WHAT IS THE ACTUAL THING has nothing to do with achieving anything, with a level of knowledge, with particular way of thinking of anybody. Because if that is the case, that individual is ost in his own jungle of illusions, which is actually the jungle of someone else accepted and copied as his own. And that JUNGLE OF ILLUSIONS is what confused people called "knowledge", "ability". And when you write, ... "what may be partially true", in reality what you are informing me is that you do not really know what you are dealing with, therefore you do not understand at all the core of the whole thing. And yet you dare to write to me being "out of reach". So, answer me, what is that "depth" you are referring to? What is that "knowledge", that "ability" that you are pointing out? Help me not to be "out of reach"!
TRY ME!
Your answer is nothing more than the response of an individual with a lack of humility, sincerity, honesty, full of pure pretense. If you were a "serious" person, you would have responded with other words with the intention of separating the TRUTH from the falsehood. And not pretending of being sure of what you are really not.
Ohh...sir...that is such a pity, from such a limited and..forgive me, childish and biased view, to make such a comment.🙏
It's become so rare for spiritual teachers to honor their predecessors, although they would be nowhere without such teachers, their books, their talks, their loving legacy. It brings tears of love to my eyes to hear Sadhguru honor JK with such respect in his voice, manner, language. I am thrilled to the core to witness the profound spiritual acknowledgement of one great Teacher for another.
Agree 😭
Wipe your tears, forget both those guys and take a look at Falun Dafa.
I heard JK in 80s in Chennai. As I listened to him, words were like manna from heaven. After the session I couldn't relate anything...so abstract
Relating would have made them intelectual. They had their own meaning and he planted a seed inside of you.
Background music !! Please stop playing the music guys
Exactly! thank you
Yes, please stop the background music, it's distracting and pointless, we want to hear Sadhguru clearly!!
Yes please
Or make two versions, 'cause YES it's distracting!
Please listen to vivek.
Jiddu Krishnamurti the enlightened Person
a straight Forward Human 🙏🙏
His level was quite low, Falun Dafa is the highest.
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The fragrance of Jiddu is timeless. It will always be there as long as the human suffering and agony exists. It will keep being the light to the pathless truth.
And a "Guru" as his unfortunate being, will never be able taste this smell.
"If you begin to understand what you are without trying to change it, then what you are undergoes a transformation"
-JK
He who knows does not speak and he who speaks does not know.... Jiddu krishnamurti was beyond...
that statement exists within a certain context. Jiddu K. spoke plenty.
@foreignloveletter This statement comes from Upanishad.
This statement comes from Upanishad.
J. Krishnamurti didn't know. He was groping in the dark.
The statement itself is what matters nor the books or people that quoted it.
It's not what Krishnamurti said, but how he said it, that's what we need to learn from him. He perfectly expressed the processes verbally.
Jnana is something that should be taught to all of us when we're young.
We are young as far and as long as we feel ourselves as beginners not as mature in something. So we can grasp knowledge not because of youth but because our inner feeling that can be verbalized as "someone may know it better than me" until it evolves and transform itself into "nobody can teach me on this".
The beautiful part of this evolution is that it can be dismissed at any moment with no reward so you can learn something as a true beginner. But ability to dismiss own experience is not widely spread across people. So it came to us as one who can dismiss his own knowledge or memory in the meaning of being free in his choice independently from his memory and previous choices - as special being. Indeed it is special. But all of us had nothing special in making everyday choices with or without memory as far as we did that choices in unconscious way.
@sreeram goutham not 'couldnt reach' but he choose 'not to'....
i mean who turns down a million dollar career man!
not many mystics do......
ankan sengupta Reaching as many people may not always be for popularity or to become rich . It may also be with compassion for all
Beings that you want to reach them and take them along . Adi Shankaracharya simply walked from southern tip to the Himalayas , reaching as many people as he could , simply with just almost bare body he walked the toughest of terrain to meet people and enrich them . Well he didn’t gather a million dollar but ultimately took samadhi in the Himalayas. What else other than compassion that might have drove him to reach all
those people .
I think the best moment of Krishnamurti was with David Bohm in the deep reserch of human nature
I completely agree with Sadhguru. I studied in a KFI school myself, and I live within Theosophical Society. Krishnamurthy is a genius simply marvelous, and so full of love, and to rethink the education system - wow, that's the best thing he did. But I can say that at least for me, his teachings couldn't penetrate me beyond my intellect. Isha has done that to me. I bow down to Krishnamurthy, Sadhguru, Sri Narayana Guru, and all the great beings who have tread on this earth.
Falun Dafa, The Great Way.
Jk is the greatest teacher, pure by a teacher's definition, almost only one in several billions, born once in 2500 years.
Unnecessary exaggeration.
I have an enlightened teacher. Ther are 100 million Falun Gong practitioners worldwide.
He was not born he was made by theosophical society
@@Thephilosopher319 He shows us what a difference a good education can make.
His teachings appear to be very similar to the school of Zen which is quite limited but the wonderful practice of Falun Dafa is limitless.
I was an Inner Engineering practitioner for 2 years and It helped me to understand that we don't need methods to be free. We need methods when we want to do something while Meditation is something that allows us to undo everything. Sadhguru's method provided me with a juxtaposition to clearly see what methods can do and what it can't. I don't agree with Sadhguru for his conclusion on JK having no inner experience. I think he has a phenomenal inner experience that's why he refuses to give any methods, teachings or authority because he has truly understood the nature of being. Intelligence and Compassion - JK :)
true brother
Depends on what is inner experience according to one's mind!...
Not at all. Sadguru did never say that JK had no inner experience. Rather said that, very few razor sharp minds can understand his words. Very few, who want to explore on their own.
While making words about any enlightened being, we should take our position very well of total alertness.
I ve no relation with Isha foundation or Jk foundation, but I feel a relationship with both of the teachers.
You have the potential.. please read K’s commentaries on living.
Sadhguru didn't tell about jk inner experience. Revind the tape
Thumbs up for JK I love him …
A genius of a man.
I don’t agree at all his teachings will survive he was more insightful than sadhguru will ever be.
There are no comparisons between gurus or being,they have enlightened through different paths, they share their ways
So, you've basically just said Sadhguru is incapable of growth. What you're expressing is contempt. Seems rather odd for someone who purports to be familiar with the teachings of J Krishnamurti.
Indeed
You completely missed JK's point🤦🙊
Why we needs to say guru
My life's door was open,and Krishna Murti stepped in.He's no guru,but a caring Father.
Happiness is strange thing it comes Whenever you're not seeking for it--- JK
Yes its there when u are not thinking about it, its our natural state xx
This is not By JK ...
@@siddharthjoshi6811 then do you know who told that
@@user-dp4kf2tq3y did jk really said that? Proof
Spiritual enlightenment requires a kind heart, much suffering and a great master...........falun dafa
Belief has no place where truth is concerned
------His wisdom is still effective till this day....Powerful-------
🙏Shree jaddu krishnamurti 💐
His teachings can only take you so far, Falun Gong can take you all the Way.
@@jeffforsythe9514 why do you say that Falun Gong ❤ is the way? Can you kindly give me a link to any article or paper where I can understand the wisdom of Falungong
I'm listening to sadguru for long time now going to search for JK.
There may not be returning then.
@@Teentaalstudio that's definitely true cause it's happening with me... He made me look inward rather than looking constantly outwards... Really people like jk are very rare and you must interact with that kind of a person as sooner as you can in your life🤎🤎
In fact Kahlil Gibran said: When he entered my room I said to myself, 'Surely the Lord of Love has come'
He might spoke about K not once.
A master respecting another master of his ways of life, intellect, being truthful is a true master. Krishnamurthy was a gem and rare one, never claimed himself as a leader or a teacher but just a speaker discussing facts on all aspects of life. The very essence of truth with crystal clear paramount thoughts till his last breath.
Yet, this guru judges
Neither of them were masters, just enlightened at a low level. The highest is falun dafa.
J.k not guru, not yoga teacher, he is like a mirror.
@periodic reset of civilizations every morning no sir, every second .
Yes. Exactly. 🙏 Namaste.
You are right sir
@@Cinnamongun1 thanks
@@lethikanaga1725 🕉️🙏
Me lembro até hj quando conheci J.K, tive que assistir o mesmo vídeo 5 vezes para poder começar a entender oq ele estava transmitindo, mas quando se entende sua percepção ao observar a realidade é completamente diferente, assim como a percepção de si mesmo, então vc pensa e observa tudo com mais atenção e seriedade, pena que a maioria não compreende, pois estão buscando gurus e ensinamentos prontos, mas quando se tem grande seriedade em observar os fatos ao seu redor e sobre si mesmo e investigar todos esses processos sem distrações emocionais uma grande clareza aparece e a sua mente entende cada fato observado, impressionante como os diálogos me ajudaram na minha busca por entendimento da realidade.
Exatamente !
Sir J krishnamurti one of the most compassionate and loving beings on the planet . Thank you sir j krishnamurti ❤❤❤
An even more advanced teaching is Falun Gong. Truthfulness-compassion-tolerance.
A guru talking about Krishnamurti: if he agrees with Jiddu he's contradictory, if he doesn't, well, listen to what Jiddu has to say about gurus and you will understand why.
You got nothing from him if you say he was against
Guru-the guy who spread light in darkness-spiritual teacher.
Saying all gurus are bad are like saying engineers are bad or all teachers are bad.
It's just a word for spiritual teacher and jk was talking about guru in western context not about real meaning.
I will say that jk himself was a guru.
@@abhisheksinghbhadoriya1926 Oh yes he did. He denied the impact of simply being could be teaching and preferred the impact of teaching a "method". My perspective, it is about the fact that the greatest master is not defined by the number of pupils but by the number of masters he is "producing". So it is a question of perspective and the saying of sadhguru "he was a flower and while alive you could smell his fragrance but it is gone now" is a judging. I don't see it that way and it is sad that he is in need of judging another teacher like that. Must be some kind of psychological need for. Maybe Sadhguru should listen carefully to Krishamurti.
@@swapnilchaudhari9545 Guru is not teacher, spiritual or otherwise. And spirituality is not anything to be taught which requires a teacher.
@@abhisheksinghbhadoriya1926 hahaha...you got the point...a whole lot of westerners got entangled in mental gymnastics and his anti Indian attitude was the main attraction. The moment he said no guru...the ones who accepted his claim actually made him their master 😃
The simple thing is if they believe what ever JK says must be true..then he is their prophet.
Jiddu Krishnamurthi is an highly evolved soul.
🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
JK shares the same soul as you and me
666 Subscribers Without Video Challenge one must discover it isn't it.
These men are beautiful Krishnamurti, Sadhguru and Osho. I love each one.
The end is the beginning of all things, Suppressed and hidden, Awaiting to be released through the rhythm Of pain and pleasure. -J.Krishnamurti
Now J Krishnamurthy’s house is a library .Every alternative evening all local writers of madanapalle meet and discuss poetry and their work,I have been there for few days ....good old days .....
Please, stop quoting me - JK.
😆😅😆😅
I don't class myself as an intellect atall, but all I know is that Krishnanurti's work has moved me to tears and has had a profound and lasting impact on my life and I never spent time around him, he was before my time. It took earnestness and a real love of truth from deep inside of me, to continue to read and listen until I fully started to understand. He was an incredible human being and his teachings were not out of reach to the oridinary person, who is in love with seeking truth. I wholeheartedly disagree with Sadghuru on this, from my own experience. Krishnamurti spoke from his soul, I can feel it when listening to him all these years after he passed away.
That's true.❤
JK's lectures were my first introduction to reflection and freedom
There are many higher levels, Falun Dafa
I admore and respect both Sadguru and Krishnamurti. I'm impressed by both. Every moment of life is fresh and open to live fully!
Dear Zairong, they are very different. One cannot respect both. Please read or watch JK more...
@@bariscaglar9955 exactly Sadhguru is full of superstitions while J.Krishnamurti is like a mirror of absolute truth.
If you read Krishnamurti you'll understand Sadhguru is nothing but a thug.
@@bariscaglar9955 stop reading/watching JK and DO IT, like he always requests us to do! Judgement is known...see them both as what they are, that is all
My humble request, Sadhguru followers, just one time read ,j.k book freedom from the known, thanks 🌹
Lethika Naga ..bro/sis ....its one nd unique ..all i could read 4 to 5 thousands ..One need not to read else to gain if it is studied..💞💞💞
i agree. if one read it he/she will see everything very clearly, but one has to be very serious about it.
They dont read, because they are superstitious.
Lethika Naga: In my view, his best book was 'The First and Last Freedom'. Originally published in 1954 with a comprehensive foreword by Aldous Huxley, it was instrumental in broadening Krishnamurti's audience and exposing his ideas.
I read and am reading JK books, many things of JK and Sadhguru are similar, however JKs path is very very very tough to follow, however even if we implement small portions of them, we can get tremendous benefits in our life.
I was very fortunate to meet Jk in person in Uk…He was a beautiful person…
Krishnamurti come to me just at the right time of my life.
The light lifted through my heart.
I learnt a lot ,for the knowing of oneself is the beginning and end of all misery.
I still to this day go to the Krishnamurtis centre in Hampshire.
Grateful always.💚🙏
The fragrance of Jiddu is still here you just can't smell it my dear... ;D
It's better to propose the solution to smell the fragrance rather than pointing out the fact that others can't do the same my dear.
EDIT: Plus ,if the fragrance is only available to certain parties then practically the fragrance don't exist. Now we are done.
@@phoenixj1299 great
@@phoenixj1299 Not it is not, because it was a reply to the saying of Sadhguru. Cantastorie was just taking him by his own words. It is Sadhguru who said th fragrance was smelled during lifetime of JK but now it is gone. And so if the fragrance is still there it must be Sadhguru's choice (?) not to smell it. There was no exclusion of certain groups of people who are not able to smell it because they are not supposed to, but as you say there might be some who are blind to the truth. Now we are done. ;)
The smile on his face when he was talking about him... , just can't Express in words
I never understood why people - and particularly a spiritual person - feel compelled to speak and analyse someone else's role? Is it that the motive, the intention behind is to demonstrate that one is greater, wiser, more successful, more spiritually experienced and has discovered a more approachable method to be shared? When one is focused on his role and on his practice there is no time left to think and speak about others, except to appreciate the special part all are playing to generate the evolution of human consciousness.
I attended talks by JK in Los Angeles and Ojai. I understood and understand what he was talking about. It is unfortunate you are unable to grasp what he is taking about.
Rather than that, I would say that it would be a miracle if that Sadhguru business-minded nincompoop understood even an inch or JK's teachings.
@@harshaputtanagoudaru8159And His whole business will collapse
I am from madanapalle I will visit JK born place. The school which sadguru is mentioned is Rishivalley which is near Madanapalle
@Noob...Woow.. Good to meet a fellow Madanapalle ite virtually. Sadly we've moved out. But as they say we can take Indian out of India but not India out of Indian.. I would draw the analogy to and also fill it up with Madanapalle😊😊.. Im glad we lived in Court Ramachari Veedhi(street) for a little while parallel lane to Sri.Jiddu Krishnamurthy's lane. Sadly not great importance attributed to this place whereas a legend like Bruce Lee also followed him it seems. I'm glad Sri.Jiddu Krishnamurthy started the imminent Rishi Valley School close to his birth place, Madanapalle.
Krishnamurti made people think and look within, to be their own light. He wanted man to be set absolutely free. He abhorred Preist, Gurus and organised religion for thousands of years of conditioning. Alas, people want to hold on to their identity and quick fix solutions.
Very rare people see through this... Very rare people go beyond words and image
True
Are you talking about UG krishnamurti not J krishnamurti?
Exactly true. Thank you Sir.
May the grace of Krishna ji guide all of us during this challenging times 🙏🏼
He most certainly was not that powerful, Falun Dafa is.
It’s not everyone’s cup of tea to comprehend J Krishnamurthy. That’s why he is the Gem. The spiritual path is your own journey. Seeking is torture. Just observe the beauty. Do not cringe upon anything. Become empty. Become fearless.
I heard jk with passionate and I am 100% satisfied with him..
He use word let's find tougher.. Let's see tougher...He never ask to follow jk ..He gives freedom of all kind of thoughts
j.k to me is a mirror where i can see inside me...he gave me the eye to see the truth..he would never be understood by those who search outside.
True
Yes
Sir it's not one day miracle that happened vary fast...to free me you have to awake every moment...and I am on that path...he teach me what to do ..and I am doing it.
I am able see everything clearly... the imotions memories that covers the mind every second which doesn't let us see what we are now I can know these Dirt's is not me.i can see them coming and go.
@@gaurav3290 both
I listened to Jiddu Krishnamurti audios and videos 13 years ago when I was 22 and it completely changed my life style. His level of intellectualism was sky-high. I see many people here commenting and criticizing Sadhguru but I find from my personal experience that he has a point.
Time to move on to Falun Dafa and really advance.
@@jeffforsythe9514 - You are starting to sound very BORING, mate!
Once you listen jk there is no need to listen to others..jk is gold ..his lines that no one can help you from outside and to be a followers destroy the truth hits differently.
People who still follow gurus seem like have failed to grasp Krishnamurthis teaching
The teacher deciple relationship is the core of Sanatan Dharma.
It's said without guru you can't gain any knowledge.
But it's also said not every teacher is qualified to be a guru. If you get a true guru you are very lucky.
@@beastbeautybiker6656 can there be a greater guru than Sidharta Gautam Buddha and he said that each must work for its own Nirvana. A guru can only show you the door. He can't get you through the door. You are the one who has to do that.
@@pandaprrr995 that's true. But it was not easy for him also. He was clueless for years.
@@pandaprrr995 that's what sadhguru say...your life is your karma ...your guru can't do anything but guidance
According to Sadguru a Guru can be your torch light in the dark but you need To find your own path . In this culture it is believed that your mother is your first Guru . Also one may not be beside you but if you feel guided by anybody at any point In your life you already have a guru . It need not always be a spiritual Guru . Even those who are born enlightened like Sri Krishna himself took Rishi sandipani as his guru . Taking up a Guru often also means giving up on your ego . You may be far more intelligent / knowledgeable than your Guru , but just by admitting one as a guru you have weakened your ego already . Once that happens your mind is free for learning process maybe by yourself without guidance .
We in India are all so blessed to have had....
Adi Sankaracharya,
Swami Vivekananda,
Jiddu Krishnamurti,
Sri Aurobindo,
and,
of course Sadhguruji..
My pranaams to all of you, great teachers & spiritual masters🙏🙏🙏
Jai Hind🙏🙏🙏
भारत भूमि पुण्य भूमि
🙏
I don't know why you haven't mentioned Osho's name??
Lol, Sadhguru is a charlatan.
@@KamrulHasan-ro2lp perhaps the best
Thanks to pointing J Krishnamurti. Even you don't want people to follow him. My thinking process is changed by following him. His trying to point pure knowledge. Not entertainment.
Sadguru Ji, JK, fragrance are still in the air. His true comparison is still helping a lot of people. His videos, audios and books are the great gift to humanity.
"The crisis - is a crisis in consciousness, a crisis that cannot any more accept the old norms. Man is still, as he was, brutal, violent, aggressive, competitive, and he has built a society along these lines”
These are the first words by Krishnamurthi I came across while listening to an obscure Italian metal band "Novembre". The song is called Umana if someone is interested. Namaskaram 🙏🏼
Yes, man is that way, until he finds God.
J. K still remains with us or leaves is not important. He never gave himself that importance and never took the position of authority. His essence is in his teachings. These teaching are not just the pile of books, you can not find anything out of that bookish knowledge. His teaching are in the reflection upon one's own life which is full of life always.
This understanding is not the intellectual dissection like the dissection of a dead body but the silent revelation of the beauty called 'the truth' with which comes love, compassion and intelligence.
His teachings are as lively as a beautiful fragrant flower, as beautiful as the silence untouched by the thought.
Beautifully Written. :)
I don't see you contradicting Sadguru.
agree
He taught a form of Zen which is a very very slow path. Take a look at Falun Gong, absolutely wonderful.
Sir they did fail. It was time that had to answer this. Time has. I have so much experience and knowledge that it is as if I’m mansa musa with knowledge. I died psychologically. I understand myself as a human so in return I understand you as a human. Krishna Murti is a genius. The stuff he talked about I knew and was saying but his speeches have allow me to better communicate what I know. I know nothing but because I know nothing I’m very knowledgeable. He even talked about a car accident and I was in a car accident that landed me in a coma for three months. 72 hours to live physical and 5% chance to ever wake again. I died psychologically. Psychological death is the death of you. That is how I was able to understand Krishna Murti!
Krishna Murti did not!
God is a thought an idea and nothing without man. Take away god and you are still a man but take away man and god is nothing. I have no beliefs.
J Krishnamurti was a prolific soul. He was groomed to become a theosophist under Leadbeater's tutelage, and Ascended Master Kuthumi, but JK refused to be attached to any organization and went independent. He gave lectures and wrote books, as Sadguru rightly said. Few know that he was vividly clairvoyant as well. His first book was written at age 9,called At the Feet of the Master, available through Theosophical Society. It is a beautiful treatise on the old guru-chela relationship and stoic requirements for it.
I read so many motivational and self help books..I couldn't find any meaning..but KRISHNAMURTHY's teachings helped me to how to see into my self from moment to moment with deep insights regardless of outward conditions
Can you name some books I would like to read
@@sriramsrinivasan4564 sure .. "what are you doing with your life, Think on these things, The awakening of intelligence...these books has questions and answers between audiences and J.K
JK's teachings are very pure without any knowledge to cling. It is hard to get them, but once you get them his teachings change your life, if u are very serious for it.
His teachings can only take you so far, Falun Gong can take you all the Way.
I enjoy Sadhguru and his logic but quite frankly he is for those who are not very serious people.
JK is for those who really apply and observe themselves.
Just like Sadhguru says, people are mystified by mysticism because they do not understand their own inner self, only the physical.
Take a look at Falun Gong.
@@jeffforsythe9514 and then??
Who next?
Some other exotic thinker?
I am here to transform myself..and helping others in the process..
To leave this planet a little more beautiful,, in the short span of life I have been granted..
I'm not interested in guru-shopping. Hopping from one thinker to another..it's not a matter of adventure sports 🤣
And anyways I don't have the time.
When the house is burning,, would you think about the colour of hair of the man who brings water?
Or give your life and heart to do something about it?
Please,, I am not condemning or offending you in any way.
Just see to it,, the various tricks of the ego.
It just finds ways to avoid that which REALLY needs to be done.
Whether by pleasure-seeking activities,, or by hopping from one guru/thinker/philosopher to another!! And in millions of other ways!!
But the intention is the same!!
To keep the self alive. To avoid the truth,, and keep on living in lies.
Love 🙏❤️
@@anoridinaryhumanbeing70 Transforming oneself is called following a path of spiritual enlightenment which requires a great teacher....................falun dafa
If you think being serious is a virtue then I wish you the best of luck. Such a short existence and you want to be serious 🤦♂️
@@theawesome1rjc Ask that question to people in retirement homes who are wearing diapers and drooling.
The way I understand the dichotomy between Jiddu and Sadhguru is, one is trying to get people to think, while other is telling people, don’t think just follow what is codified. 90% of the population does not have the processing power to understand and comprehend JK, and that is what Sadhguru is targeting.
The impact of JK in my life has be a big change for my life from the age of 15.
JK is incomparable. Par excellence.
same here brother, from age 18 for me..im 61 now
@@skip741x3 i am 31 now....i listened to JK now ....i think my life will change enormously ahead ..it's my firm belief now
I've loved Krishnamurti's thoughts and questions since I was a college student. How sweet!
@Peter Peddinti i am lost? what does your reply has to do with the comment?
Personally,I still can feel his fragrance....❤❤❤❤❤❤
Me too. Very much alive. ❤
We all feel 'his fragrance'... Saying that there are 'books, just books' left ... is a really sad comment... It shows Sadghuru's ego...
Listening to JK"s discourse is something that indeed is worth spending time on your own.
JK was brilliant not many understood him
Deepak Singde true
May be he was brilliant, but what use does his brilliance have to most people.
Even Ramana Maharishi didn’t do anything n sat down quietly.
It is amazing that this many people listen to JK...He is not understood because he is utterly simple..
You mean not 1... nobody, absolutely no one...
Sorry, but it has never felt to me that J. Krishnamurti was speaking from the intellect. His wisdom was coming from a much deeper and profound place. I have to say that his words were resonating with my very core unlike your teachings. No one's wisdom has ever resonated with me as profoundly as Krishnamurti's. He had zero arrogance and zero ego unlike many who present themselves as spiritual teachers and gurus, yourself included. Krishnamurti IMO was born at the wrong time, about 1000 years earlier the age when he could be understood. Our collective consciousness is not even remotely close to being able to grasp the truths he was revealing.
There are lot more people than I thought that understands JK's teaching. And you are right about JK's speechs not coming from intellect. Probably to self enquire, one does not require to be intellectual. I do not and and probably will never understand JK as a person since I never met him. But JK's teachings, did essentially set the sails for my journey and make me realize that only constant self enquiry can get you close to reality.
Marina Tonkonogy 🙏🌞
Soooo true!!!
Totally agree.
I agree with you Marina..he was never in favour of giving any kind of methods to attain enlightenment, only and only self inquiry..🙏🏼
I listen to JK for the first time, and I saw Sadhguru Pap! this was and is your mentor to me this Topic is very heavy on you. I am in my 20s and JK was and is a Gem. We don't go to school to read answers. today's speakers come with all remedies and suggestions That why it's very hard for you to understand JK. He is easily understood by many.
This is what Khalil Gibran originally told about JK “ when he entered my room , I said myself - surely the lord of love has come “ . ‘ the love of wall has hit me ‘ is sadguru’s own making .. KG never said it .. JK never wanted to be a Guru , disliked anyone calling him that , JK was not a wannabe 😀