[Vinesauce] Joel - Shareware Madness ( Part 17 )

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Komentáře • 169

  • @HY4CIN7H
    @HY4CIN7H Před 2 lety +159

    since joey didn’t bother to read the first game’s readme, he had it spot on. it was quite literally made by a 13 year old.
    lol

    • @mareksicinski3726
      @mareksicinski3726 Před 2 lety +6

      I mean yea the spelling and quality o the writing sorta makes sense
      I hope ppl weren't too mean to jim

  • @pociksasiskin7285
    @pociksasiskin7285 Před 2 lety +125

    There's no way Joel didn't make that Smashed text adventure game himself.

    • @MamaAki
      @MamaAki Před 2 lety +7

      Exactly what I had in mind aswell.

  • @AltimeterAlligator
    @AltimeterAlligator Před 2 lety +48

    2:15:00 Joel discovers the awesome power of running two sound cards at the same time.

  • @PSUQDPICHQIEIWC
    @PSUQDPICHQIEIWC Před 2 lety +47

    Holy shit. That installer MIDI was a jam.

  • @jeremijawitherspoon1569
    @jeremijawitherspoon1569 Před 2 lety +38

    Funny how at least one member of chat knows about these random things joel stumbles onto

  • @In.New.York.I.Milly.Rock.
    @In.New.York.I.Milly.Rock. Před 2 lety +128

    Answer to Joel's question:
    The music video is for the song "Something About You", by R&B group Premiere, a trio of pinay women from the west coast, off of their almost-self-titled-but-missing-a-letter album Premier (1996).
    As far as I know, that's their only single, but they also had a song featured in a Samuel L Jackson movie.
    Apparently they tried to rebrand as "Honey Luv" in the early 2000s, but besides some discogs entries, they seem to have no footprint in music platforms. Unsurprising, as their sound is basically entry-level post-Diddy radio-friendly R&B. If you didn't go viral - or get the payola - it was very hard to take off in that extremely competitive lane.

    • @Caranella
      @Caranella Před 2 lety +12

      Thanks for providing information on the song!
      I really wanted to listen to it, but I couldn't figure out which girl group this was. If it's something obscure it makes sense, being able to listen to it now due to having the title and artist is much appreciated.

    • @sunbeames1847
      @sunbeames1847 Před 2 lety +3

      Thanks for the info ^.^

    • @natedigger5678
      @natedigger5678 Před rokem +1

      OH MY GOD. I remember a Honey Luv commercial from like 2004. Maybe 2005 or 2006.

  • @DaVince21
    @DaVince21 Před 2 lety +206

    If Joel does plan to do a 3D Movie Maker movie again, could someone tell him there's a modern Windows port with some basic enhancements out there right now?

    • @CabinetGremlin
      @CabinetGremlin Před 2 lety +30

      shhhhhhh it's better this way

    • @moxxiethegamer
      @moxxiethegamer Před 2 lety +13

      Link for the modern port, i'm interested :O ?

    • @DaVince21
      @DaVince21 Před 2 lety +13

      @@moxxiethegamer hey! I don't know why, but me even mentioning the project gets my comment removed. So sorry, looks like I can't tell. CZcams is really frigging weird with its comment moderation sometimes.

    • @TheCyborgLord
      @TheCyborgLord Před 2 lety +5

      I think Joel might already know about that.

    • @nellancaster
      @nellancaster Před 2 lety +3

      I believe he mentioned it a few... VODs? Videos? back. Well, it's in this channel somewhere.
      Don't take my word for it but iirc his response can somewhat summed up to "but why tho?"

  • @SharlyTV
    @SharlyTV Před 2 lety +43

    joel never misses a chance to crap on korn when it comes up as a topic

  • @arrayanas2308
    @arrayanas2308 Před 2 lety +31

    Go to 44:48 for those who desire a fecal funny text based adventure game.
    Well:)

  • @willsonpiercepua
    @willsonpiercepua Před 2 lety +22

    waiting for the day Joel would legally change his name to Joey.

  • @yeehawjones1230
    @yeehawjones1230 Před 2 lety +22

    i think it speaks volumes that the creator of Smashed was 13 at the time

  • @GameAlicornLuna
    @GameAlicornLuna Před 2 lety +25

    Deadly Rooms of Death still exists today. It has a large library of games just like the original Webfoot version which is now free and run by Caravel Games. The free version is greatly enhanced compared to the first one.
    Also, something fucked up on the version Joel played here...

    • @MagikGimp
      @MagikGimp Před 2 lety +2

      BillBull played the original all the way through if you're interested- www.twitch.tv/collections/aVDWQDM8FBY7hA

    • @viscountrainbows6452
      @viscountrainbows6452 Před 2 lety +2

      I remember playing this on one of those 100 Great Arcade Games type discs, of which I had at least 3. I miss those, even if most of the games were just cheap knockoffs of existing titles for Amiga, Atari, etc.

    • @GameAlicornLuna
      @GameAlicornLuna Před 2 lety +2

      @@viscountrainbows6452 I had a few as well. Most were lousy but you could find some really good obscure games like Critical Mass or DROD here.

  • @silverrey7379
    @silverrey7379 Před 2 lety +15

    1:35:36 is it bad that I recognized the song only because of the cursed snare?

  • @camwoodstock
    @camwoodstock Před 2 lety +16

    Holy cow, Joel playing Deadly Rooms of Death? Never thought I'd see the day.

    • @Krbyfan1
      @Krbyfan1 Před 2 lety +4

      I always felt like I was the only person on the planet who played that game and was disappointed when I looked up full walkthroughs. The only one I ever found was pretty low quality.

    • @MIchaelArlowe
      @MIchaelArlowe Před 2 lety +4

      It’s a shame the tileset was so fucked, it was a decent game.

    • @midasvijfwinkel6116
      @midasvijfwinkel6116 Před 2 lety +3

      @@MIchaelArlowe the later installments have become my favorite games of all time, tbh. Too bad there is some really weird shit going on, perhaps he could have liked it otherwise :(

    • @Kryptnyt
      @Kryptnyt Před 2 lety +1

      I'm a fan of the webfoot DROD music but his tileset do be a bit... bugged

  • @SmeddyTooBestChannel
    @SmeddyTooBestChannel Před 2 lety +20

    I almost thought Joel was about to say "Related to Goatse" at 10:57 and I was very concerned

    • @SmeddyTooBestChannel
      @SmeddyTooBestChannel Před 2 lety +3

      that "Totally Smashed" game was written by Zane wasn't it

    • @SmeddyTooBestChannel
      @SmeddyTooBestChannel Před 2 lety +2

      Jesus Christ "Virus the Game" looks like fucking Cruelty Squad lmao

    • @SmeddyTooBestChannel
      @SmeddyTooBestChannel Před 2 lety +2

      1:02:33 HOLY SHIT IT'S THE SONG THEY USED IN THAT ONE DWANGO MAP

    • @SmeddyTooBestChannel
      @SmeddyTooBestChannel Před 2 lety +2

      The people who made Risky Woods made an absolute banger of an arcade game called Biomechanical Toy. If you thought that was neat, you should totally play it. It's like Contra on meth.

  • @OwlTowel
    @OwlTowel Před 2 lety +3

    Just started playing Deadly Rooms of Death because of this stream. Thanks for the (unintentional) suggestion Jobel.

  • @JomasterTheSecond
    @JomasterTheSecond Před 2 lety +36

    I really want Joel to make Morbius II: It's Morbin' Time in 3D movie maker.

  • @kyancoqie
    @kyancoqie Před 2 lety +7

    wares shared!!

  • @CpnGame
    @CpnGame Před 2 lety +3

    28:42
    That sound effect is making the phrase "laser printer" come off a little different.

  • @xBIGFLATSx
    @xBIGFLATSx Před 2 lety +4

    *sound card unlocked*

  • @VoVilliaCorp
    @VoVilliaCorp Před 2 lety +4

    crunchwrap installed lol

  • @grog_speed
    @grog_speed Před 2 lety +2

    Good to be back in some classic series

  • @ShinigamiNyx
    @ShinigamiNyx Před 2 lety +6

    More Shareware Madness? Yes, please!

  • @DaVince21
    @DaVince21 Před 2 lety +37

    A lot of the Windows games he plays seem to have weird graphical glitches... He might want to change what graphics card is emulated in PCEm.

  • @samditto
    @samditto Před 2 lety +2

    Secret of monkey island music makes me cry from how cool it is and i have never played it

  • @RaposaCadela
    @RaposaCadela Před 2 lety +15

    More Shareware Madness THANK FUCKING GOD I love this stuff, random collections of old software, console or PC, just rulezzzz realy

  • @MacmanReturns
    @MacmanReturns Před 2 lety +13

    Holy balls I want that MIDI

    • @zach123101
      @zach123101 Před 2 lety +1

      If it's out there somewhere I need it

    • @DireNemesis
      @DireNemesis Před 2 lety +3

      agreed its too fucking good and i need to listen to it

    • @PSUQDPICHQIEIWC
      @PSUQDPICHQIEIWC Před 2 lety +1

      No joke, I'm gonna wake up in the middle of the night with that song in my head.

    • @PSUQDPICHQIEIWC
      @PSUQDPICHQIEIWC Před 2 lety +4

      Actually, check on the Internet Archive for "Hot Shareware 1" by Hobby Press
      Should be able to find the file somewhere in the ISO.
      I mean, I'm absolutely going to do it myself, but it'll take me all day. With my internet connection, I more or less still live in 1995.

    • @Pedro-jo3ze
      @Pedro-jo3ze Před 2 lety +5

      @@PSUQDPICHQIEIWC Thank you for the tip, I got it now. The name of the song is hotshare dot mid. It's a really good song but I must say the soundfont from Joel's stream makes it sound better with the chunkier bass.

  • @kayeplaguedoc9054
    @kayeplaguedoc9054 Před rokem +4

    I literally clicked on this after only watching part and I come back to just hear Joel say "slap it around"

  • @AkumaADemoncus
    @AkumaADemoncus Před 2 lety +2

    Man, I saw DROD in the thumbnail and got excited and Joel got a "corruptions" version of the game.

  • @simonsimons1252
    @simonsimons1252 Před 2 lety +9

    Babe wake up, new shareware madness just dropped

    • @stashthevampede9480
      @stashthevampede9480 Před 2 lety +9

      How did you get in my house? We've been thru this already. It's gotta stop.

  • @DaVince21
    @DaVince21 Před 2 lety +20

    I'm a simple man. I see DROD in the thumbnail, I click.

    • @camwoodstock
      @camwoodstock Před 2 lety +3

      Ayyy! 132nd Skywatcher represent.

    • @DaVince21
      @DaVince21 Před 2 lety +4

      Aw man, too bad the graphics were glitched for him.

  • @baxterbunny4403
    @baxterbunny4403 Před 2 lety +7

    Morbist 8 : the revenge

  • @Amiculi
    @Amiculi Před 2 lety +8

    One thing I learned from this is that indie developers started microtransactions before the internet.

  • @ulime
    @ulime Před 2 lety +1

    Let's gooo Joey!

  • @Bro.Knight
    @Bro.Knight Před rokem +5

    A little surprised to see so many people getting into that jazz midi. It really is a bop fr
    Also 1:31:42 holy shit I remember quenzar's caverns. Managed to beat it 20 years ago with like 1hp

  • @xBIGFLATSx
    @xBIGFLATSx Před 2 lety +12

    I hate that his "Xbox off" joke made me laugh as hard as it did

  • @TallTapper
    @TallTapper Před 2 lety +5

    the shareware cute

  • @UnofficialCyane
    @UnofficialCyane Před 2 lety +5

    Don't have a soundcard? Just install one!

  • @real2787
    @real2787 Před 2 lety +1

    awesome

  • @Masked_Pirate_Geist
    @Masked_Pirate_Geist Před 2 lety +3

    Holy shit I played Deadly rooms of death as a kid :O

  • @T1MAGEDDON
    @T1MAGEDDON Před 2 lety +3

    1:34:15 rhythm heaven moyai moment

  • @DandelionYarn
    @DandelionYarn Před 2 lety +17

    the midi at 1:02:33 totally slaps

  • @MrValBar2
    @MrValBar2 Před 2 lety +3

    DAMN, I'd love to see Joel playing more DROD

  • @Seydaschu
    @Seydaschu Před 2 lety +23

    I wonder what was wrong with that version of Deadly Rooms of Death? Most be that ancient "webfoot version" I've heard about.
    The final "old version" which is totally free is "Architect's Edition", but it's had some modern versions to buy.
    On Steam, you can get "Gunthro and the Epic Blunder" and all of the older levels are DLC for it, strangely.
    A fun puzzle game series, but if Joel actually streamed it, he'd be SWARMED with backseat gamers in chat! "NO! Point your sword northwest then step northeast! Then rotate counterclockwise, then step southeast! It's so easy, STOP DOING IT WRONG!"

    • @camwoodstock
      @camwoodstock Před 2 lety +4

      Looks like it is the Webfoot Version, judging by the portrait.

    • @lordmarshmal_0643
      @lordmarshmal_0643 Před 2 lety +3

      DROD is wonderful indeed, it's come a long way since that original version
      I've actually done a couple bits of architecture for the series myself!

  • @hayleywaalen2612
    @hayleywaalen2612 Před 2 lety +2

    You poop out Gold!?!

  • @Twafflejc
    @Twafflejc Před 2 lety +4

    i would love to see a 3D Movie Maker contest, he did not said in this stream but in the previous ones.

  • @Anthony-lg6wl
    @Anthony-lg6wl Před 2 lety

    You know that guy who made that space mac-venture-like made another game recently. It's good.

  • @Bepdomize
    @Bepdomize Před 2 lety +1

    Digital munchies 😂

  • @ruhfuhquh
    @ruhfuhquh Před 2 lety

    thirty minute tortilla tangent

  • @Daniel-be6cj
    @Daniel-be6cj Před 2 lety

    Oh man I think I had that Virus game! The background looks really familiar

  • @McC1oudv2
    @McC1oudv2 Před 2 lety

    Can we get a Robbaz style "cooking with the kock" for that crunch wrap?

  • @Hiemir
    @Hiemir Před 2 lety +3

    the name on the morbius 2 script is Bartholomew Cubbins which is a character from
    a DR Seuss book

  • @QuartQ3
    @QuartQ3 Před 4 měsíci

    good alot :)

  • @EccentricWolven23
    @EccentricWolven23 Před 2 lety +18

    54:40
    Joey calling someone else's humor juvenile? Oy yoy yoy.

    • @notamobilesprout4175
      @notamobilesprout4175 Před 2 lety +1

      Is your entire purpose on this channel hating on Joel

    • @EccentricWolven23
      @EccentricWolven23 Před 2 lety +3

      @@notamobilesprout4175 Bruh, am I wrong? I don't hate Joel, but I don't mind calling him out on his nonsense. Just today he did a stream where he derailed his entire stream to start Gmod to try and prove Chat wrong on something that anyone who took high school physics would know is right.

    • @noises4978
      @noises4978 Před 7 měsíci

      u are wrong "bruh"@@EccentricWolven23

  • @SlyHikari03
    @SlyHikari03 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Tbh i like VLC and MPC equally.

  • @sheepishly6942
    @sheepishly6942 Před 2 lety

    I still use Paint Shop Pro to this very day man

  • @Moralozki
    @Moralozki Před rokem

    1:38:10
    Joel: A mimir

  • @sircringe8968
    @sircringe8968 Před 2 lety +3

    Are these actual physical shareware discs or downloads? Anyone know where to find them if they’re downloads

  • @mattb6522
    @mattb6522 Před 2 lety +2

    I actually played Charly the Clown and Risky Woods many decades ago. Shareware was really abundant in the 90s so it was fun to discover new games. Some of them were surprisingly good. Apogee and Epic especially made some really solid games.

  • @jayromero1748
    @jayromero1748 Před 2 lety +3

    is there a way to find that song midi that is played around the one hour mark??

  • @zyrkugilgamesh
    @zyrkugilgamesh Před 2 lety +24

    Joel's spanish pronunciation is very good, I'm quite surprised

    • @GXAPlayer
      @GXAPlayer Před 2 lety +8

      The spanish stream is paying off. lol

    • @palmzmetal9131
      @palmzmetal9131 Před 2 lety +6

      There is a chance that he chose Spanish in elementary school in Sweden. In my school, I had an option between German, Spanish and French.

  • @Zeltiar
    @Zeltiar Před rokem

    i was in there

  • @ruadeil_zabelin
    @ruadeil_zabelin Před 2 lety +12

    58:51 I told that to my fiance and she laughed. Virginity secured booooiiiss

  • @b.eanimationsandotherstuff1536

    Joel, I found a very special Music shareware CD that I think you’d like, I sent it to your mods.

  • @Mario583a
    @Mario583a Před 2 lety

    50:549 Joel pronounces 'severe' as 'sevear'.

  • @nopenothappening2242
    @nopenothappening2242 Před 2 lety +2

    Totally Smashed looks an awful lot like the kind of "door games" you would find in the pre-internet BBS systems, like Legend of the Red Dragon, only even more incoherent. *sort of* a precursor to MMORPGs?

  • @AroAceJotaroKujo
    @AroAceJotaroKujo Před rokem

    bruh i literally know that dos music comp he was listening to

  • @32piroman
    @32piroman Před 2 lety +4

    where can i get this midi? it bops

    • @PSUQDPICHQIEIWC
      @PSUQDPICHQIEIWC Před 2 lety +5

      Check on the Internet Archive for "Hot Shareware 1" by Hobby Press
      The hotshare.mid file is buried in the ISO somewhere.

  • @Stryfe7
    @Stryfe7 Před 2 lety +2

    yo, is the custom vargskelethor windows 98 iso publicly available?

  • @xamp_exclammark
    @xamp_exclammark Před rokem

    I seriously like Korn and 2 limp bizkit albums

  • @enriquejoseantequerasanche6180

    Hot Shareware, Risky Woods...Man, the nostalgia!
    Joel, are you gonna come down to Spain next?

  • @eloso2225
    @eloso2225 Před 2 lety +2

    Deadly premonition 2 a blessing in disguise got released in Steam today boys let's gooo!!!

    • @DaVince21
      @DaVince21 Před 2 lety +1

      HOLY crap thanks for throwing that in the comments, I had no idea!!!

    • @eloso2225
      @eloso2225 Před 2 lety +1

      @@DaVince21 Np i'm as surprised as you 😃

    • @kinnikuboneman
      @kinnikuboneman Před 2 lety +1

      The Switch game?

    • @eloso2225
      @eloso2225 Před 2 lety +2

      @@kinnikuboneman Yeah it got a pc port. It's a bare bones port and you need a controller to play but hey i'm excited for mods to improve on it maybe? 😅 (Also i don't own a Switch)

    • @kinnikuboneman
      @kinnikuboneman Před 2 lety

      @@eloso2225 hmmmmm, isn't the first games PC port barebones too?

  • @miguelcastelinikock
    @miguelcastelinikock Před 6 měsíci

    I would the holy shit vinesauce Windows port

  • @fireandcopper
    @fireandcopper Před 2 lety +2

    Can't wait till morbius 3: Morbed

    • @PSUQDPICHQIEIWC
      @PSUQDPICHQIEIWC Před 2 lety +1

      It'll be a prequel, with a helmet-haired child version of Michael Morbius delivering such epic lines as "I'll try morbing. That's a good trick!"
      ... either that or a musical.

  • @Koala_Slime
    @Koala_Slime Před 2 lety +6

    DROD is legitimately a really really great game but there was definitely something wrong with the version you played. It's on steam now, along with all the sequels, expansions, and the spinoff it got. I highly recommend it to anyone that likes puzzle games.

  • @WeebGunnerPURIFIED
    @WeebGunnerPURIFIED Před 2 lety +2

    oh my god there was a new one?

  • @ROBDEWAND
    @ROBDEWAND Před 2 lety +2

    58:47 this cracked me up ngl

  • @mareksicinski3726
    @mareksicinski3726 Před 2 lety +1

    53:41 ?

  • @vonny7386
    @vonny7386 Před 2 lety

    yoooo

  • @ChaseMC215
    @ChaseMC215 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Joel still doesn't know about Persona, let alone ever played any of the games on his stream! The sheep345 zip description has no relation to Persona. At all.

  • @dreamEnd
    @dreamEnd Před rokem +2

    41:01
    Joel finally plays a real Shin Megami Tensei game

  • @FakeHeroFang
    @FakeHeroFang Před 2 lety +2

    1:56:03 Chad Prima strategy guide salesman. BUY MY BOOK FUNNI SWEDISH MAN

  • @phili.9304
    @phili.9304 Před 2 lety +2

    1:12:01 When try to emulate Mobius ds on your windows 95:

  • @99JayTaz99
    @99JayTaz99 Před rokem

    Anyone know what's the song playing in the background of that disgraceful burrito thing commercial? There's a song in the guacamelee OST that sounds like it, and now I'm wondering if it's some sort of traditional Mexican song I've never heard or something

  • @xx_bugc0re3_xx28
    @xx_bugc0re3_xx28 Před 2 lety

    12:11 :(

  • @01oo011
    @01oo011 Před 2 lety +4

    I would watch Morbius 2 directed by Joble.

  • @Mario583a
    @Mario583a Před 2 lety +2

    Hot Shareware Disc: Sexy single SILFs in your area.

    • @plazmasyt
      @plazmasyt Před 2 lety +2

      Hot Single Shareware Discs in YOUR area want installed on YOUR PC Right Now!!!11!1

  • @taylorandrews5015
    @taylorandrews5015 Před 3 měsíci

    2:09:14 Let it be known Joel was right about the RE4 remake and that's exactly why I wasn't that much of a fan (it wasn't bad, I just prefer the OG)

  • @CreamusG
    @CreamusG Před rokem +1

    Actually Totally Smashed was a game made by an American, Ryan Gravlin (which his name is posted freaking everywhere). It was published during the summer of 1995 just before the end of his school year and some arguments with a friend or something. He was 13 at the time. Whoever says this was made by a 40 year old that worked at a tech company is talking out their ass.
    He hasn't made anything since that I could find. I don't even know if a registered version even exists.

  • @latvianshibe7637
    @latvianshibe7637 Před 2 lety +1

    me when

  • @shahnazakhter3691
    @shahnazakhter3691 Před 2 lety +2

    Morbius 2: its morbin time is gonna be one of the sequels of all time I would love to (not) see it.

  • @wowguy9393
    @wowguy9393 Před 2 lety +3

    PLEAS MAKE MORBI 2 HOLY SHITTTTT I WANT MORE 3D MOVIE MAKER SHITPOST JOEY HOEL PLEASSSSS, ITS MORBIN TIMEEEEE

  • @timberjaw3877
    @timberjaw3877 Před 2 lety +4

    Fear not a playthrough requested by 10000 men
    But fear the man that requested a playthrough 10000 times
    - Bruce Lee -
    Day xx of requesting Joel to play Lisa the painful.

  • @wandtpag
    @wandtpag Před 2 lety +1

    37:00 Joel completely oblivious towards the Swastikas...

    • @samditto
      @samditto Před 2 lety

      Yeah i hate how edgy shit like this can get. In his place, the best thing you can do is ignore it and close the window

    • @somebodystopme4881
      @somebodystopme4881 Před 2 lety +4

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika
      stop being so close minded, bottom of the introduction, and also second paragraph of the introduction

    • @samditto
      @samditto Před 2 lety

      @@somebodystopme4881 whats this called? Copium? Im not reading your shit

    • @alfo2804
      @alfo2804 Před 2 lety +6

      One tiny, contextless swastika was on the screen for five seconds, it was hardly worth pointing out.

    • @samditto
      @samditto Před 2 lety

      @@alfo2804 so why are you trying to defend it? Are you racist? Pretty sus if you dont instinctually spit at a nazi symbol.

  • @spencerdurette2859
    @spencerdurette2859 Před 2 lety +1

    I wish the "Cool" music from my era was nu metal, cause it was better than the rap and club music that they blasted every lunch break on the radio in our classroom (which was unfortunately situated right behind me). Was always the same like 2-3 songs, and one I remember was a song about some man on a phone? I remember I was barely into music at that time and despite not knowing good music from bad, but boy did I hate that stuff

  • @Fluorite-Fox
    @Fluorite-Fox Před 2 lety +1

    Now I feel bad for genuinely adoring Linkin Park's music.. thanks Joel.. :(

    • @Fluorite-Fox
      @Fluorite-Fox Před 2 lety

      @Grey Addison Oh god I love Evanescence too..

    • @alfo2804
      @alfo2804 Před 2 lety +1

      He's not bothered if other people like it, he just doesn't like it himself, and only really because it was forced on him as a child.
      If he was talking face-to-face, he wouldn't be nearly as hyperbolic with his opinions.

  • @GODALMIGHTY5150
    @GODALMIGHTY5150 Před rokem

    A lot of yelling but no song or music agents people screaming that's how it is music sucks