"Probably" the Best HiFi System in the World ? TAD Esoteric REL
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- This is my Second WHY HiFi video where I showcase a killer HiFi system and the Audiophile who owns it, asking them about their motivations for why they spend the time and money to build such a killer HiFi system.
The system in this video is featuring TAD Reference One speakers, C600 pre amplifier and M700 power amplifiers www.technicalaudiodevices.com/
A 5 not 6 box source system from Esoteric Grandioso CD Player, dual DAC's clock and power supply www.esoteric.jp/en/category/g...
The REL Acoustics 6 Pack of No.25 Subwoofers
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Stillpoints isolation www.stillpoints.us/
As is explained at the end of the video Michael the owner of this system is keen to work with potential customers of TAD systems similar to this one so he can give back and share experience and knowledge and passion for the products and the brand. This will need to be organised through Nintronics HiFi dealer and their contact details are on their website www.nintronics.co.uk
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0:00 Intro
1:51 Biggest Mistake
2:52 Best Upgrade
3:14 Most Critical Component
5:00 Why TAD
8:56 The 6 Pack
9:55 System Sound Like
11:35 The Journey
12:39 B.T.S
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Hope you all enjoy the video and appreciate the Carlsberg play on words of the video title 😀
My Why HiFi videos are meant to be a showcase of a stunning system and a look at the story behind why someone invests their time and money into the hobby and what it means to them
WOOWWW! Estoteric Grandioso dual mono DACs, TAD floor standers and pre amp, and Mono Power amps, REL No25s, custom still points rack......Stuff of dreams..😍😍Terry, where did you leave your trusted mics for an in room experience for us mortals.
Looks like you really enjoyed your day there 👍
I hope you do a follow-up video on your impressions of his system ( soundstage, dynamics, etc) Did you record any sound demos?
Amazing system in the mega-buck range. I have a couple of points:
1. No room treatment?
2. 5 chassis cd system seems a bit much, even for a "best" system.
3. I believe the room, speaker interface is the most important consideration, especially as one starts the journey. Perhaps at the esoteric level, the front end becomes more important the higher you go.
4. I totally agree regarding the benefit of subs, particularly if you relieve the mains of also producing the signals below 50hz.
Fun stuff. I appreciate that he wants to help others.
@@PaulSerat No way that 6 subs is required to match the output of the mains. If he had the giant TAD horn systems, like the big Westlake stuff, it would still be overkill.
"I've done lots of mistakes"
Like not acoustically treating my fucking room.
How does this crowd still not understand this?!?!
I was going to say the same thing, you can hear the echo in the room when he's standing next to the speaker and talking... I don't understand...
Because anyone can treat a room's acoustics and do so on the cheap. But not everyone can show off that they can buy gear most can't afford or even refuse to buy.
It's his money and the stuff looks good esoteric, but it's only ego stroking on CZcams and room treatments can't do this.
Again I don't care if he wishes to spend this exhorbinant amount of money. But honestly one can build a better sounding set up for what 1/10 th. The amount of money, but it would not get audiophile approval though.
Oh why do all audiophile demos play the same bland style of music in these videos?🤔
I've spent a decade and thousands on treating my room. It sounds great. Some audiophile friends of mine have virtually no room treatments and their systems also sound great. Different, but great.
Could be that musical tastes are influenced by the sound of the system. Dry sounding jazz recordings and classical records can sound pretty good in a fairly lively room. Great even.
I try not to be dogmatic about it.
That door that opens near the speaker is scary...
The biggest mistake is to underestimate good room acoustic treatment which is the most critical component of a good sound system.
I wouldn't assume that there isn't any. To me it sounds like there is some (whether there is truly enough and the right stuff... Well, we would need to hear a better demo then what was provided here). Also his speaker choice would dictate less room treatment then many other speakers would require. I would guess zero EQ on mains (as it likely isn't needed) and of course the REL Six Pack has it built in. Terry, any words regarding room treatment? Was the room to lively for your taste? Thanks.
Alex, …but you’re not one of those smart as*es who claim that if you’re „smart enough“ you can save all (or the biggest part of) your money if you‘d only treat your room acoustic correctly with a few panels, are you? Well then…I‘m relieved 😌
@@johndaddabbo9383 I would assume there is little if any; actually, it is quite obvious. Even with DSP or DIRAC, and the best speakers, quite a lot of treatment professionally implemented is an absolute requirement.
@@budroe4057 Well, I'm certainly not positive, but given that the components of this system are well over 250K in total one can imagine that 50K+ would be spent on the room. So something such as this "may" be being used (replace all 'z' with 't') hzzps://youzu.be/13VH8ZPAeG8 I really wish Terry would chime-in and let us all know.
OK, well I put a shout-out to Terry regarding Room Treatment. We'll see if he responds. Let's hope he does...
This video was incredibly awesome! It’s really fun to get a tour of a top notch system and insight from the owner on their experience with the Hifi journey. I prefer a residential hifi tour and interview over a hifi retailer tour. I’d like to see more of these. Good job and Thanks!
Great video Terry! Refreshing to hear about a rare brand in the journey of a passionate audiophile who’s found his nirvana.
Your video production and content are going from strength to strength. Keep it up mate.
You had me at the REL No 25 six pack! Incredible! Thanks for sharing this. I would love a listening session in this room! Wow, truly a dream. Enjoy!
This was a great video, I love seeing and hearing about other enthusiasts systems of any level, but it is a treat to see something as well put together as this.
I like that he's prepared to help others get a good sounding system. This is what is great about the hobby, you want others to have the best experience, too. So we're always offering advice, it may not always be correct, but we try to help.
spent that much money on his system,he couldn't afford decent clothes,love the system though,am i Jealous?,you bet i am!
@@geoffwalmsley3066 What audiophile buys expensive clothes, when they have gear to buy, anyway? All my clothes are cheap too, but that's because I'm poor anyway. Also, who's got time to be envious of others when there's refining the setup that is within one's own budget. That's the real fun part. :^D
Can't hear his shorts...... Nope still can't hear them. However the room needs clothing
I do too. That is why I service Reel to Reel tape recorders for no charge. A labor of love. Especially a Tandberg TD20A SE 7.5/15 2 track which I have.
Hearing your journey is very inspiring. This has become one of my favorite videos. Love the conversation,breakdowns and the knowledge of what you own. Great video. Thanks for sharing.
Great video! Always nice to see how people make their own choices in the Hi-Fi/High-End world. Hopefully these kind of videos will come more.
Wow... I heard TAD at a show and thought they were terrific. Although my wallet/credit card couldn't flex that much, id love to listen to this sort of system... epic!
Thanks for making the video.
Amazing system - I'm impressed by the functional, utilitarian design of his components - it all blends together, without seeming over the top.
Many thanks to this gentleman for sharing his incredible system. Thanks to you Terry for a great video and interview.👍😊🎵🎶🎵
Michael, thank you for sharing your fantastic system with us.
Terry, thank you for a great video. You never disappoint.
I really enjoyed that video! What a down to earth gentlemen. His opinions and explanations on his highend audio journey closely mimic my feelings as well. Well done!!
Great video Terry, the quality is really up there brother. Michael's insight was an eye opener. More of us should offer listening sessions like he offers.
Keep that kind of topic going, it is the best part of this chanel....to be able to see and hear passionate people talk about it
Respect! What a stunning setup! May all music lover's dream come true!
What I liked most is that it is so clean and neat and well arranged. No wires to be seen anywhere. This adds up to the entertainment. 👍
Congratulations, that’s a beautiful system. The goosebumps is the best test . If there’s a smile on your face and your foot is tapping , it’s money well spent
I like the fact that he likes the whole process of building and listening to his system, and isn't a snob about his gear and just wants it to sound real. I have heard a high end system once and it was by chance, but I could not believe how real it sounded, you could walk around the singer on the track. I wonder Terry if your experience of all the quality gear you have listened to would make it any easier to choose you own system to live with? cheers for another well made video.
That was claimed for the Beveridge model 2 electrostatic audio reproducers. What was it for you?
They were active, their own custom tube amplifiers built in. Used television Horizontal amplifier power tubes to drive the panels from their plates ala Futterman.
This is one of the best systems I have ever seen , I love everything about it. Those speakers are a dream.
Remarkable similar path here. My first love was a Linn Sondek. Got hooked on Naim and RELs. Nice video.
My man, beautiful system. You look very happy and satisfied which is what we all are trying to achieve. Great accomplishment!
The perfect system is the one I enjoy listening to my jazz to. It didn't cost me a zillion dollars either.
So much wisdom spoken by Michael. The point he made with regards to a properly integrated sub, no truer words have been spoken. No matter what main speaker you choose it simply defies logic the improvements realized in mids, top end and every other parameter in musical reproduction makes them something you can't live without once heard. The TAD speakers are are among the very finest, I'd take them over any Wilson without any hesitation, always among the best sounding rooms at CES. And finally Michael, kudos on your choice in the Stillpoint racks, so much more than it's understated appearance portrays, it doesn't get much better. All the best gentleman!
I have been to many CES in Vegas and never heard anything about TAD. Did hear a lot about Von Schweikert, Wilson, and MBL though.
@@daviddrake6875 I guess I'm full of it then.
Terry - I think you should do more like this. So much knowledge out there and many people are happy to share their experiences. He’s got a killer system.
Only in the owners eyes, but not in every one eyes.
Great video. My biggest upgrade is adding four 12" subs the difference is night and day.
Also buying speakers and subs from the same company helps with synergy, the experience is almost life-changing.
Thank you Terri, very clean and awesome sound system.
Great content Terry, fascinating to hear this guys journey. I will never be able to do what he has, but having heard a few £50K plus systems over 30 years ago, I know that there is a gulf in difference between true high end and the pretenders. You have to hear it to appreciate it, and when you do, you need a few days to come back down and hear the joy in your own system again!
I'd love to know if he ever considered Townsend isolation platforms for those speakers. He's acknowledged the importance of isolation and advised he prefers to have the floor standers raised, so I would have thought he would achieve best results with true isolation and not keeping the speakers anchored to the floor - especially in a room with big air movement from the subs. Still I'll admit my own feelings and choices are almost irrelevant at this level.
Really great content Terry - I value your posts and what you bring to us, thank you!
He is using the big still points under his speakers
@@PursuitPerfectSystem cheers Terry. I hadnt even heard of stillpoints, damn my ignorance!
@@titntin5178 oh yeah shit sorry I suppose they just looked like the normal feet, my bad sorry again
Very good questions i must say. Hope to see more of such interviews.
Congratulations for you system,TAD Speakers and electronics are some of the best in the world,Andrew Jones did,as always a great job when he was working in TAD,but for me the Model one is his great creation and my favorite speaker.i used to work with TAD electronics and speakres and loved it.
The problem with people who are used to hearing live music, like me, formerly a bass and drums player, is it's almost impossible to emulate the sound you are used to. The ambience, the energy and the realism of live music is so unique.
So it's just the basics of a sound system for me as I can't afford a system like the one portrayed above.
When it comes to elite high end systems I usually switch off (because its all up in the clouds and never become a reality for me in my life time) but this video I found captivating and informative. The argument for having a subwoofer was educational, something for me to consider when forming a modest system. Well done Pursuit Perfect System another great video....!
A sub makes the entire size and image of your system bigger. However high your speakers, however wide (within reason) adding a sub fills in the space in between and makes it one big image. I don't know why this is... but it actually is true-- everything from cheap bookshelf spkrs to high end towers. Two subs in stereo widen the sound stage and can alter the perception of the mid and highs. Of course the main speakers still output the same information but, the sub changes your aural perception. The other thing to consider is you can get really good sound for little money.The difference between this system and a well balanced $2,500. system with a pair of $1k subs, while not nearly as 'fine' can put up an excellent challenge to the so called best.
@@keithmoriyama5421 Thank you for your thoughts, then the next question would be if I was forming a system with entry level ATC do I get ATC SCM11 with sub or just go onto ATC SCM19 without sub, what are the Pros and cons?
@@Romulus980 I am not familiar with the two speakers but, coming from a pro background, I really like ATC.
What you are asking is: "Is it better to go with cheaper speakers with a sub or better speakers without one."
The cheaper/sub combo will produce a more pleasing awe inspiring sound while the pricier option will produce a more correct linear sound-- especially since the ATC's have studio monitor heritage. It is not about linear, coherent, time and phase aligned, acoustically correct speakers-- it's about what sounds best. Only pro gear has all those restraints; home gear-- whatever sounds best. The cheaper/sub combo will sound better. It's pure physics.
Having said that I would go with the better speakers and NO sub. The payoff will come down the road. You will learn what is 'real' sound instead of what initially excites you You will become aware of the acoustical balance in your system and how it presents musical program. In short a higher fidelity system will educate your ears... which is really your brain. After you have reached a certain point of proficiency adding a sub will really become an epiphany. Mean while research the difference between single and multiple combinations and learn the difference between a musical SV sub and an impact SPL sub.
That's another thing. Until you have tuned in your system and become familiar with it's limitations and your own awareness of musical fidelity-- you will just waste your money and buy the wrong sub. An uneducated ear will tell you, "this sounds way better." When really all you are doing is exciting your ears in the present. Keith's 4th rule of audio: "anything that can make your system sound better can make your system sound terrible."
@@keithmoriyama5421 Many thanks for your thoughts. It is a rare occurrence that some one has answered my query so succinctly and in realistic practical terms. Are you in the audio business or a hobby audiophile?🙂
Brilliant video, Terry. Good insight to the guys thought processes.
Fantastic video. So glad you created this platform. Thanks from South Florida.
I agree with everything, almost. "Synergy" is the reason I went for ATC. They make very special SL mid range drivers, one of the only few that completely manufacture their own tweeters. With superb active amp packs and perfectly matched preamps. I have the SCM20asl's with the CDA2 mk2 CD player and DAC. Admittedly, I do need a sub!
I have always been interested in ATC despite the fact that I have never heard them.
@@falconquest2068 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
What makes the REL different from all others is the ability to hear the fundamental of low bass and even from the Purdue Bass Drum and some of the best bass, kettle and a variety of these powerful bass drums and hear overtones that I have never heard from ANY other subwoofer and the seemless mesh with all the rest of the bass and midbass is fabulous. They have been able to do this since the Stentors II. Even my Stadium III kept up with my Magnepan 3.6r's. With some of the finest classical vinyl ever pressed when few pressings were made of some of very best performances in the early to late 1970s of which I have nothing of any other source match and by quite a large margin, they convey the true sound of what I have heard in the last 50 years from classical trios and quartests, chamber, to full100+ piece symphonies and opera that makes the human voice a magnificent instrument in it's own right.
Wow. Looks good, sounds good. Amazing. Like others, I am curious as to acoustic/room treatment. Your viewers/subscribers await further info/detail. Looking forward to the next one. Cheers.
Great video .
I'd love to hear your system . I understand about the emotion of music causing tears of happyness .
I went with a McIntosh system and have had some problems , having to upgrade .
Thanks
Sean
These speakers alone are £120,000.00 in UK, 2x mono power amps £70K and the whole system is well over £300K, maybe 400, .... 🙃. Amazing. Thanks Terry for a great video.
Jealousy level 9000. Good on the geezer
The Esoteric stack is probably about £130K in the UK. I feel sorry for audiophiles in the UK, the pricing is crazy expensive compared to some other markets.
😱 utterly incredible stuff‼️
You could probably stand on that transport drawer & it still would be ok.. (not that ya would)
Very interesting interview. 👍👍
I totally agree that the subwoofer inclusion in a system is fundamental. It really boost the sound quality of any system.
I have been surprised with the sound quality of some small low end speaker systems with just a very small subwoofer.
Thanks for posting.
The gentleman speaking about the TAD audio equipment described the feeling I get when the music touches my emotions. I know the feeling although my equipment is nothing like that, I can only imagine listening to what he described.
Why should your equipment be like that if you are already emotionally attached to the sounds your system producers…..eyes can cloud your ears when envy raises its head….
Michael is the embodiment of an experienced true audiophile. First and foremost it's about the music, the gear is the delivery method not an end unto itself. I love the fact that he is into live Jazz and Soul music, which is quite endearing to those of my generation (60+). This interview is stellar Terry. For those of us who love large full range speakers (mine weigh a measly 83 kls ea.), and multiple subs on top of that, we know exactly what Mike means by subs are a next level upgrade to any system. Now,, I'm very hopeful that a there will be an upcoming sound demo.
I know, a sound demo via CZcams cannot fully deliver the full scope and quality of the sound at the original listening location. It can however (at least those Terry records), provide key elements that provide us, at this end, with valuable information regarding the system. Thank you Michael for sharing your thoughts, and audiophile wisdom. Thank you Terry for such premium content.
Sorry David no sound demo
Couldn’t agree more 🥳
I am going to say something that is pure heresy. For me (and many others) it's about the synergistic experience of well integrated equipment. I've been a gear head all my life-- I made it my business and have personally owned hundred's of thousands in audio gear. I just like buying and fine tuning complete systems-- have 5 of them... which on rare occasions I listen to. They all sound different and I have the luxury of 3 different listening rooms, two which are dedicated and purpose built for sound. My wife loves music; there is non stop sound in the house... except where I hand out. I like quiet.
Wow it's like a civil war in some of the comments. This gentleman can afford room treatments if he wants them. Maybe he is happy with what he's achieved. Maybe it's in the works. Maybe his lounge is a James Bond room with hidden room treatments that mechanically appear with a press of a button. Overall it's his system, home, and it's fantastic that he's sharing it on this channel and has willing to become an ambassador for TAD and etal. ✌️
100% agree. I was going to say something similar but you basically covered what I was going to say. If he needed treatments to get the sound HE was going for......he would have them.
I agree with some of the things that were said. The bit about not doing 2 changes at once is spot on. How will you ever know what is really going on if you don't take your time? Reliability is also so important, how will you ever enjoy your system if it is going wrong? CD can be good & in the right system can give you those goose bump effects. Good listening.
Wow, just wow! What an amazing system. I would need to win the lotto a couple of time to be able to afford that setup. Thanks for sharing.
Easily the best recorded sound that I had ever heard (and I've hear some other very expensive systems) came from a pair of older TAD reference speakers playing a master tape of Dark Side of the Moon. Truly a time machine if there ever was one!
Dark Side of the Moon is my go to test album when I make a change or tweaking my system.
Master tape on what machine for playback?
I have a highly tweaked Tandberg 2 track 15 IPS TD20A SE where can I get this master tape?
I will give $50 on Venmo for an answer.
@@daviddrake6875 I think it was a Revox, but it was a long time ago that it could have been a different machine.
It’s pretty absurd that anyone spending this amount of cash and dedication on finding the best equipment will not give two thoughts about room acoustics. You can clearly hear the room echo even when he’s just *talking*. It could very well be the worlds best system and you wouldn’t know it. So bizarre
The more odd shaped boxes i add behind my head the better the audio gets! Weird that.
I was hearing echo too when he was standing next to the speakers, he needs to do the clap test and do some wall treatments, soften up the room, too many reflective surfaces.
Maybe it is the right amount of echo for the system? Hard to criticize with so many variables involved.
There is no reason for any of this, this can all be recreated digitally at a fraction of the cost. I attended a music conservatory for 4 years. I call this all bullshit!
Check Ken Fritz’s system. Built the room to suit the system.
My hero. I aspire to achieve such a high level of HiFi and the understanding that comes with it some day.
I heard those TAD reference speakers at 3 Hi Fi shows and they sound incredible
Those REL stacks. ❤️❤️❤️
There is no "best" system, there is only "the best that I have experienced" with this equipment in this room.
The 'best' system is the one that disappears, leaving you with a palpably realistic reproduction of the music!
Sublime. Thanks to the owner for sharing.
Lovely system Terry, I bet it sound amazing👍
There’s only one word for this set up… OUTSTANDING…!!! 💯💥✅
That’s around a £400-500k system excluding the room construction, which doesn’t appear to have any acoustic treatment. You can spend as much as you like on a system but if the room isn’t right it’ll sound average. I heard a £250k Nagra system with B&W Nautilus in the wrong room and is was stunningly average. The other major component is the quality of the recording and mastering, if that’s poor it doesn’t matter how much you spend on gear, you can’t polish a turd!
I'm building my own studio for recording and mastering. My friend has been a pro composer for over a decade now, and he says the exact same thing you said above. He had new mics, monitors, soundcard, preamps etc. Then he treated his room. Boom! Total game changer with the overall listening experience. His mixes took a huge leap and was getting compliments from his first mix moving forward.
And it's exactly how you described. You can have million dollar system in a concrete square room with tile floor and totally flat ceiling and yes, it will sound 'stunningly average'.
I love this expression John, I'm gonna borrow it!
One guy that is all about practical and real data to show what works and what is a waste of money. Ethan Winer has some great videos to show with actual testing equipment specifically designed to just test for differences in sound. Very informative stuff. And if you look at his system is remarkably average quality but I assume because the room has been treated to as best it can be it will sound 10X more impressive.
And don't forget to mention the differences stemming from good AC power.
100%
Love the video. It would be great if you could be able to do more of these.
Nearly confirmed something today that will be an awesome video - stay tuned for news on this
I'm thankful you've posted this vid. I certainly enjoyed the content.
This hifi system is a like VW Golf which has been tuned to the max in every aspect (engine, cooling, exhaust, brakes, suspension etc.) but the tires (room acoustics) have been carried over from the base model. Moreover, the listening distance seems to be quite long so you'll likely hear the room (reflections) more than the speakers (direct sound).
I'm listening to music with Genelec speakers which can automatically compensate detrimental room acoustics to some extent. But still that cannot fix everything so I installed absorbers to reduce early reflections and at least some room modes. The effect was staggering. It's a shame there are still so many so-called highend audiophile shops selling stacks of top notch hardware to their uninformed customers who think they can achieve good results by winning the "hardware race".
As an audio enthusiast. Room treatment and placing those subs far away from corners and or walls would drastically improve your system. And one of those costing nothing. I highly recommend it as it seems you take listening to music very seriously
Exactly the point I wanted to make. Except for the subwoofer placement. REL actually tells you to place them in the corner and slowly pull them out if they are too amplified. But the room acoustics are terrible, you can definitely hear an echo when he slaps the speakers.
@@MrBouncingDeath 🎉 dead right, love the hifi shame about the room 😂
Very nice system indeed. It looks really good, and I imagine it sounds as good as it looks😀👌🏽. Best Regards from Johan, an audiophile from Sweden.
Electrical power conditioning made a massive improvement on my system. I didn’t know how dirty and unregulated the electricity was until I cleaned it up. The equipment responded so positively to nice clean regulated power
Question: he talks about the subs taking some of the load off the main speakers, but Rel is known for its high-level connection which feeds off the same binding posts on the amp as the main speakers i.e. there’s no crossover involved that can change the frequency ranges being fed to the main speakers…they’ll play every frequency as though the subwoofers weren’t there. So unless his amp has a dedicated sub-out and crossover that he can adjust, then how’s he achieving a lighter load on his speakers?
Yes but you dont need to drive the mains anywhere near as hard when you have more bass reinforcement and you can set the speakers up different as well
@@PursuitPerfectSystem You mean to play your music at lower volumes? Otherwise I don’t understand your comment.
Probably wouldn’t need 6 foot stacks of subs in the corners if he would do some simple acoustic treatments, and pull those amazing speakers into the room and get them off the rear wall.
You misunderstand. He doesn't NEED those six foot stacks of subs, he WANTS them. Big difference! Lol.
I may have lost my last comment, but I'll certainly reiterate:
I don't think I'd e v e r leave that gorgeous room. It's simply sky-high fabulous. Nothing's perfect, but this attempt suffices, as far as I'm concerned... sublime.
AND, an edit: And I'm NOT listening for perfection, I WOULD simply swoon in that sumptuous EFFORTLESSNESS.
does he apply low pass filter to the main speakers or they overlap with subs? what is the cross over frequency if so? What are the room dimensions? I'm curious about the room modes, how they affect low frequencies? is it somehow compensated by the Rel array (is it possible to countermeasure mods if subs are stuffed in the corners?)
Definitely one of the most expensive, but zero treatments? a square room with few absorptive furnishings and a lot of hard reflective surfaces.
the room is not square, apparently its around the golden ratio for width height and length
I have been back to see Michaels system again and look at it in more detail czcams.com/video/bfsVZr9LyJ0/video.html
I got bitten by the audio bug in 1976. In 1979, I had finally saved about $400 USD from my after school job to purchase a new Sansui G3000 receiver. Plus a very cheap pair of 3 way 12'' Trans audio brand speakers. This was a house brand of monitors from an audio chain shop named Pacific Audio. 43 years later, today I finally own a high end system that the most any audiophile would be pleased with.
Splendid 👏🏼 ✊🏼
Thank you both for the video and info.
From England 🏴
any particular reason for placing the subwoofers along the back wall? is there any advantage to the acoustic or ?? thanks!
Why the amps hidden away,there so nice,show them dude be proud,just saying!
To keep just the speakers at the front to give them maximum space around them - the centre image of the soundstage was really something, you don't hear HiFi sound this good in this regard very often - one hand often
No room treatment and very long speaker cable lengths, setup can be improved big time with sensible investments I guess
If the resistance is low, shouldn't matter too much.
Putting stuff around the speakers also affects the sound
I would use sound treatments though
I totally agree. 6 subs right at the wall? Amps in the cupboard? Cables one kilometer long? No optimizing of the room acoustic? Probably the best system on the planet? Congratulations!
@@frankzimmermann Yeh, I was wondering about the amps in an enclosed space like that.
Great video Terry. I couldn't keep my eyes of what looks like to be a Gale turntable with SMW 3009 pick-up arm. I remember seeing one at an Earls Court Hi-Fi show in the mid 1970's for around £1200. I haven't seen one since. I did purchase their G401 speakers in chrome though. Although not a particular big speaker, I found I had to turn them up really loud to get a sound I liked. Ended up with some Wharfedale E50'S in the end. Cheers.
Michael showed me some speakers he has in a bedroom - I think they were Gale with shiny chrome ends, art deco looking almost like Bose looking stand mounts - are they the ones you mean - I think you are spot on
Very nice, thank you.
Please what's those devices on left with black rack or black background are called?? Thanx again and kind regards
As pointed out in this video, I would first recommend raising the speakers of the ground instead of any other tweak. Even in the most basic setups it makes a huge difference to tighten the bass and minimize unwanted vibrations. Doesn't have to cost much at all.
He's using still points...
@@ZookLife off the ground and add some isolation. Even a rubber block can be interesting.
Room Treatments? It's hard to tell. If there is any, it is hidden quite well. Not that with such a high end system would one need as much, however to have none seems unlikely. Or at least not probable given the Total system investment of over 250K. Please let us know, even if in fact there isn't any. Would love to know how YOU felt about the room if in fact there isn't any room treatments to speak of (other then of course the REL's built in PEQ). Thanks!
Based on the sound of the spoken word interview, I don’t believe that any room treatment has been installed. The listening room sounds like a typical conference room.
@@greenbeginner3353 That would be quite sad. I just can't imagine great sound with none. Maybe just a little, but not NONE. No sound demo, nor has Terry responded. Oh well...
Can anyone tell me what the speaker spikes and footers are please?
My best guess is that the footers are Still Points Ultra 5 footers and the spikes are the original TAD supplied.
If so, wondering why not using the Still Points optional thread adaptors for the Ultra 5's?
Excellent video Brother, Thank You Very Much for making it !!!! 👍👍👍
This is not professional hifi advice - this is just some opinions from a 'guy'.
Nice set up though - clearly dedicated - very cool.
Time to implement Dirac!! 🤓
I wasnt there for that, but I would have enjoyed seeing what I could do with Dirac and a system like that, some amazing things I would guess
DIRAC helps greatly, but in the end, it is inadequate and only a partial solution to room acoustics. This had been discussed in great detail on professional/acoustic engineering sites.
Very good video; I'm grateful to be invited into this guy's a/v room and to hear his thoughts. Pity as always some of the other guests are ungracious, but at least their envious and opinionated comments provide a source of amusement, however unbidden, so they're not entirely worthless I suppose.
Cheers Tim
Very cool equipment and awesome set up. Is this a room in progress without treatments or is there something he prefers about not having treatments? Would be cool to know. Thanks for sharing! Again, awesome stuff and here is to many, many happy listening hours in your space!! :)
My god the ECHO when he slapped the top of his speaker!, yet another classic example a man who has the wonga and no idea how music should sound, ROOM ACOUSTICS. A trip to GIK and he´ll be drinking Carlsberg all day long :-)
There's no doubt in my mind that system sounds really good. But man, thats alot of dough. I think you could get close for much much less than what he spent. Of course, if money isnt an issue why though? And yes room acoustics, is 50% of what you hear.
@@Canadian_Eh_I you could do kef LS50 for a few hundred dollars instead of spending hundreds of thousands on that. Would a cheap 100 dollar cd player really sound that much worse than the 50 thousand dollar one he has!
Not to offend anyone but you wouldn't even be 10% with that system
Even without treatment Will this system produced a next level sound and you know what I am used to.
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Having owned ls50's myself I have to agree. You just cant get that kindof resolution from such a small transducer . You need a 3 way at minimum to get full range sound + a subwoofer. That said, spending $1MM isnt necessary, but Im sure this guy already knows that lol
He hasn’t heard my Cambridge edge . 😂😂😂😂😂😂 .
And my q acoustics concept 500s . . H would probably pour petrol followed by a lit match on them lol.
What a lucky chap awesome system.
Lol, but you Definitely have a great system that reproduces sound stage very well and disappears. If you love it, that's all that matters. Well done👍
I subscribe everything he says. I find wonderful this interview, I hope will be more, much more. Congratulations to the channel!
Great video! I wish more places had TAD in the United States. I heard a cheaper 10k esoteric integrated amp once and didn’t like it on hard to drive ProAc speakers he had. Hard to know.
Another perfect example of a guy who knows absolutely nothing about audio and setup who just throws money at the most expensive components thinking he will have top of the line sound. His subwoofers are more of a hindrance than anything. First off placing them in the back is a big mistake. Im assuming theyre time aligned but what happens is they will be out of time alignment with the smallest movement of the head forward or backward. He should have the subs up front as close to the speakers as possible. Also stacking 3 subs on top of each other now you have to time align each individual woofer since theyre all a different distance from the ears. Speakers are also too far from the front wall. Bringing them much closer to the wall to where theyre about half a foot or less would get the bass thats bouncing off the front wall to be in phase with the initial speaker output and would give him more detail in the whole frequency range with more bass and depth. Then Id use only one rel on each side.
Then coming to the electronics, one thing Ive learned over the years is that much of it is severely over priced and no better than equipment that costs 10x less. Youre paying for name and looks, just like a gucci bag. Measurements of amps and dacs have shown over and over that many times components worth less than a few grand measure better sometimes even than 100k amps. High end audio is 95 percent snake oil. That cd player for example. He could have achieved the same exact sound with flac files on a laptop with a 500 dollar dac. The dac will even have a preamp built in that is 100 percent transparent. I didnt watch the whole video but im guessing he used overly expensive cables connecting everything. Again measurements prove these cables are 100 percent snake oil. Imagine the money saved by using the power cords that came with that equipment and essentially lamp cord for the speakers all to achieve the same exact sound.
Isolating digital electronics from vibrations is also laughable. This guy is all in on the snake oil. Oh well atleast it does all look really nice.
You would listen to two songs and all your opinions would change, thats all I will say
@@PursuitPerfectSystem I have to ask why the red-subs are on Cars with wheels for stands
The biggest mistake in audio is wearing shorts on a low couch while being filmed.
I find it very hard to shut my system down after a intense listening session at night. Very hard sometimes.. at the time it’s kinda saddening because of the intense will to keep going then having to shut it down cause you in know it’s 4am and you don’t want to sleep in. But at the same time amazing when you think about that fact how your system is constantly lulling you in it’s brings you peace and reminds you that you truly enjoy your system when sometimes it can be difficult rather than easy to think is this system for Me.
How does he eliminate the sub frequencies from getting to the frontal TAD tops?
Just a guess but this guy must be single?
I’m his daughter and he has a wife 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😌😍
I'm glad TAD is not my dream system, especially for the money it costs. Nor are TAD products the ultimate or last word for an ultimate sound system, besides the point that the cost is over priced for the sound they give you.
You're not wrong. They have great products but no value. At their price point you've got sonus Faber, magnepan 3.7i, Martinlogan's higher model esl speakers, Magico, kef's reference series and the list goes on
I agree 100%. Lots of money wasted here. My Klipschorn corner horns stomp these for realism.
Stunning system! Would it be possible to get the music used in the video listed? Thanks!
Would enjoy seeing more of these types of videos
Beautiful set up. Absolutely beautiful.
Finally.......someone who has went with the CD route ! How refeashing. I love my cd collection and was looking to see other cd systems .
such a clean setup, wonder what and how long are his speaker cables
Another thought, the low frequency sound waves from the sub woofers are exactly opposite to the sound waves coming from the TADs. Surely this would cause problems, let alone the standing waves from the RELs?