NEW Honda Hornet 750 vs Yamaha MT07 vs GSX-8S
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Hey question, is the 750 hornet coming to the states? It's not on Honda's US website. I figured you'd likely be one of the first people to know whether or not they were releasing this bike in the states or not, so I figured I'd ask
That Honda Hornet is a damn amazing value proposition coming in at just below € 8.000 in Germany
At the same time, it is incredibly....boring. It's like the people at Honda were like, "Oh f*ck, guys! Suzuki is rolling out the GSX-8S, Yamaha has the MT-07 and MT-09...and us? We have....the 500F. The idea: we take the 500F with a big engine! It's going to be awesome!"
@@krasky yep - it's the blatently obvious thing to do and there's very likely absolutely nothing surprising or excitingly new about the bike and that's exactly what we expect from Honda and that bike is gonna sell the second it hits show room floors because of course it will. Honda in a nutshell - you know exactly what you're gonna get and it's gonna be bulletproof but no surprises.
@@krasky yeah, I just don't understand Honda man. They got the engine, electronics and price right. But for some reason they just couldn't design a motorcycle. If they got the design right they would have killed the MT 07 and Suzuki because nobody in their mind would spend the same price for less HP or more weight.
But the suzuki comes with a quickshifter stock which is 300€ for the honda
The remaining 700€ difference is worth just for the looks itself in my opinion
@@coolmetin02 don't forget the 8 is less horsepower and heavier. We will see the difference soon with a head to head
What in the text to speech?
did you use a Yammie Bot for this video? It sounded off with a lot of grammatical errors🤣
That’s what I’m saying uncanny valley just doesn’t seem right
facts
Good comparison vid.
One correction: The MT07 does not have upside down forks.
After owning for two years I wish they did
Yam, love the single swing arm look and while a more premium option they seem to be spread over quite a few options. Can you do a comparison of the single swing boys available? Thanks broham
Looking forward to seeing you give Ride evaluations on these models.
As soon as I can get my hands on the hornet or the GSX8S - I'm making a video!
@@yammienoob 👍
@@yammienoob Can't wait! Thanks!
Meanwhile I bought my first bike.
A 2009 preowned Kawasaki ER-6N.
Finally owning and riding a bike and not only watching videos about bikes.
Nice choice, service it when required and it will last a lifetime.
Nice video Noob.
As the current owner of a Z900, a Ducati Monster and an 848, and previous owner of many different models, I have to say that it is horses for courses. The numbers are less important than the feel of a bike to you. So if you are looking to buy a bike, test ride everything you can and buy the one that makes you grin the most.
Been waiting for this video!!
I’m in the Uk and have done my training on a brand new MT-07 enjoyed it, great starter bike imo now have my license and straight onto my z900.
Great to hear riders comparisons
needed this video
My aged Suzuki bandit 650 has 77 hp but only 33 ft lbs of torque, and that, along with it's porcine mass is what takes much of the fun out of urban riding. I'm thinking the torque is the most important number for the bikes in this category, and that's where the GSX-8s reigns supreme. Plus it seems like you can actually buy one. Don't get me wrong, the Hornet does look like a very strong competitor in this category, but if you live in North America, you're going to be out of luck for a while.
Thinking it will be the gsx8s for me. I haven't seen the Hornet get announced for North America yet. The MT07 would be my last pick. Partially cause I already had one. But now it also lacks tech that the others have. Maybe if 5k, couple year old ones actually existed here as mentioned in video, but they are more like 7k.
The MT-07 got so overhyped that the prices of used ones are getting out of control.
I think the reason why many CZcamsrs are still talking about cheap used MT-07s is because this was true for a long time, but is outdated as of now.
Good thing is that these now competetion at the market should have a positive impact on the used market as well and even out these crazy price demands for the MT.
@@forrest_dumb1109 Yeah, the used MT-07 prices are absolutely nuts!
The 2023 MT07 has a nice upgraded color speedo.
Take the Honda out for a ride man. The engine is fantastic. I’ve ordered one
Fires shots right at kawi in the first 15 seconds of the video 😂 automatic like for me
But why do you guys hata kawa 😀
Why is z650 not a contender?
Mmm still love my 2007 919. Owned it about 12 years and just clicked over 20k. She is a sweetheart thanks for the mention
The GSX8S is fully equipped, heavier, costs more and has less power than the Hornet. Are we sure Honda didn’t make THAT one?
I think equipping quickshifter on the hornet makes the price tag closer to 8s
The gsx 8s costs 1000€ more in germany
Add the quickshifter on the honda and its a 700€ difference
That 700€ is worth just for the better looks itself in my opinion
I think the GSX 8S feels higher quality up close. You get what you pay for I think.
i just bought my mt07 and was waiting for this exact video
@@Rettungssocke boi or gal haha 😂
A bit sad there wasnt the sv650 since it's also a naked, but understandable since GSX is replacing SV ;(
Talks about the 2023 MT-07 TFT display but shows the previous year model with the LCD display. Also never mentiones that you get now a quickshifter option with the 2023 model
Exactly what is was thinking.
All of these bikes need a round headlight version for non squids, throw in a rear fender as well. They look as if they are missing parts from the factory. Honda created this look in 83 with the CBR-400F, it also looked as if it was missing parts.
The mt07 has xsr700 variant.
Really like that Hornet. But just could not accept that oil pan. Maybe they will be a upgrade if possible .
The music is on point just made my night better
😅
The MT07 really just needs a chassis update, or make an SP model with better inverted suspension and radially mounted brakes
Wrong chassis is perfect. I raced and it's spot on. That's a stupid reply
The geometry is spot on. The forks only
@@underworldringside the chassis is not perfect, the suspension is literal garbage, and the frame flexes a bit to much under hard cornering after the suspension has been upgraded. The brakes don’t inspire a ton of confidence either, upgrades are also needed there. Suzuki’s new GSX8S, and especially Honda’s new Hornet vastly outperform it everywhere… the MT07 needs a massive upgrade… geometry is also highly subjective due to rider size/stature…
The concept & features of these bikes are fantastic, they just dont hold a candle to the looks of the Trident 660 IMHO...
What is up with the generated voice? I can't be the only one who noticed it right from the start? :D
I'm a new rider who just got a 2023 Z400, so it will be some time before any potential upgrade, but that Honda Hornet looks mighty fine to me. That price point, (assuming i get something good on trade-in) and the power bump up are hard to pass on.
They all looks EXACTLY the same.
How can people drive these soulless ugly plastic crapcycles?
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I can’t tell you enough, MT07
@@relevation0 huh?
Well, the MT 07 sells for 8340€, the 8S for 8900€ and the Hornet for 7890€ (or 8545€ if you want the sports pack with the QS). Honda looks like the best Value for money, but it's just the spec sheet. Need to ride all of the once the 8S hits the Showroom floors in Germany 🤷🏼
Yammie, why is this video fake voiced? And is it? Sounds like it
When will we be able to get the 750 hornet in the US? Tried checking out the price and ordering options on Honda's website and it doesnt show up
I've got a 2004 Honda 919 hornet best do-it-all bike I've ever had and I've owned over 30 motorcycles . Bulletproof... light. . .quick and I paid $5,500 for it new.
Why is the Trident not in on the comparison? bc of te 3cylinder engine.. Triumph would make my day all day ^^
Why does it sound like this video was voiced by a bot using Yammie's voice clips strung together. Something just seemed off in the inflections, cadence and some pronunciations. Did anyone get a weird vibe to how this video sounded?
The lack of people noticing this is unnerving. I bet 1/2 of the views and comments are bots as well
Great video but you should have included the 2023 Suzuki GSX-S 750
I just recently sold my MT-07 and now have a Tracer 9GT. I would really like to get my hands on the Honda Hornet as it looks so much more refined than the MT-07. Fit'n finish is not Yamaha's strong point for sure.
Hornet looks like a 300 sports bike. Ugly thing
Jammie noob do you really hate the 2023 kawaski z 650? Should I then get the 2023 Honda hornet instead? Got rid of the ninja 300 and my Honda 600 f4i... looking for a necked bike..
TFT displays don't do a thing for me. I much prefer simple analog clocks that tell me everything I need to know at a glance.
I prefer needles over lcd
Finally a TFT dash on the MT07! I tried installing an LCD flip kit on my FZ07 and now the backlight doesn't work properly 🤷♂
Yammi did you use an AI voice synthesizer for this? Like elevenlabs? Your voiceover sounds extremely robotic compared to what I remember about your voice.
Yeah, listened to it again and I am 90% confident Yammi used an AI voice synthesize for this video. Not that that's a problem or anything. Just pointing it out.
Wouldn't consider the 700cl-x sport worthy of taking part in this comparison?
Hey I was on your website looking for parts for a 2005 Honda cbr600rr but Honda isn’t even a listed as a make is there a reason why?
Yam you keep taking shots at the zx4r don't think we don't notice
Waiting for the Honda Hornet to come to America baby so I can trade in my Ninja 650 KRT for the Hornet.
Bet a cbr750r comes out soon sure you don't want to wait ?
MT07 the best in the class, in my opinion. It's engine, weight (Suzuki), agility, rear wheel width (Honda). Also, Yamaha makes this type of engine since long time now and the other two have their first gens now only.
Since when does the MT07 have upside down forks? 🤦 what’s wrong Yammie
Went a little too quick on that one 👀
The background music is like you’re on hold trying to make a dentist appointment or stuck in a elevator…geez
We'll tweak that for future uploads 🔥
Yeah it’s made me not complete a few videos that I was genuinely interested in. But I cannot stand the “anti loitering” music
Beautiful piano music 🎶...I had no idea this was a motorcycle video...
@@yammienoob music's good 👍 easy to listen to. But of course you cannot please everyone
@@robertbuzby3769 I believe it is one of Chopins nocturnes
Man had a Honda 600 hornet was soo great!!! Got a sv650 no w😅
Thinking about selling my 2008 R6S and getting an FZ or MT-07
It's gonna be exciting seeing how these bikes scrap it out over the next few years , Development is at its infancy.
Has Yammie started using an AI with a voice tone similar to his to make videos? Quite a few hints of that in the sound and monotonic tone, plus almost no jokes? Maybe even the text itself is AI generated...
What is a crossfire twin? 270 degrees? Like most twins today.
New Hornet had just arrived in my local shop.... Looks good in the flesh. I had a sit on it, that seat is so bloody hard... Seems like no one at Honda actually sat on one....haha. It was painful..
Is a wider back tire better or the modes on a Honda ?
I love variety, but if I had the choice the MT would be first then the Honda, Yamaha is just hot like that.
How come there isn’t the Honda cb650r naked ?
Comparing specs isn’t compelling. I’ll watch when you do a test ride comparison.
Have you heard anything about the release date in the U.S yet?
Am I tripping, did yammie use a voice synthesiser for this vid, it has a slight inhuman tinge to it
Sounds like one of those AI voices
100% he used some kinda AI voiceover tool for this, it sounds weird as hell
I don’t like the bug looking headlights. Is there mods out there to switch the headlight shape/look?
Just unbolt remove and fit whatever you like. I think twin round street fighter lights would look great on the hornet
The GSX is the best looking, big exhaust are a no go. Only short and hidden ones can do for me. I'd like to compare the Trident 660 too, which to me is the best looking of all. Ducati isn't making things so much better. Regarding looks the CB is also a contender. I don't have an A license, but I'm wishing to buy a middleweight or A2 bike.
I mean, sure, but you can change the exhaust on the bike to however you want it. If you buy a bike based off the way the exhaust is from the factory, then idk if you're really buying the bike for the right reason. Not to say that your opinion is incorrect or anything, it just doesn't make sense to me lol
Wow….never caught a video this soon.
The XL750 is crying for a Video as soon as you can get your hands on it
The Hornet I would be a good offer. However there's one minor problem. You can't buy one here in the USA. They're not even one the Honda Motorsports website. And if you want a 650 to 700 cc naked bike for under 9k your only options are Suzuki Sv 650, kawasaki Z650 or a Yamaha Mt-07. All the other all other bikes are 9k and above.
Anyone know if we’ll have a Cbr750r version of the hornet?
They are using the same engine platform for the new transalp so hopefully they will do a CBR sports bike too!!
i feel like the Yamaha tdm850/900 were pretty far ahead of the curve with their engines... Crossplane I2 with 85hp.
They were great bikes but people failed to realise at the time. We were all buying gsxr cbr ninja and R1/R6 and missed out. The TDM had a real turn of speed around urban areas . And the torque was really something.
My only problem with the gsx-8s in blue is that when I see it I expect it to be orange for some reason. I'm sure I will get over it.
cause ktm vibe?
I think it suits the bike tho, a poor man’s 890 duke 😁
I just got my new MT-07 2 days ago. 🎉 I am very pleased so far. Just taught myself how to ride it too. Never ridden before this.
As a mt07 2022 owner i would even upgrade to a 2023 model.
The hornet and the 8s looks are just not my cup of tea 🤭
❤mt07 ...... Fun/ exhilarating/ on edge / exciting. You can't beat that ,the others are for nerd's
I’ve sold my MT07 2022, and bought the Honda CB650R.
Best decision ever.
@@Kierowca_Odpowiedzialny why ?
Time to ride the three back to back and come up with some conclusions.
I love my Suzuki GSX 8s. I haven't had the chance to ride anything else because the motorcycle store that I went to does not allow you to test ride the machines or at least that's what I was told by the sales guy
The amount of Effort Yammie Puts into Discouraging Honda Nerds, speaks volumes about Yammie’s Suppressed Sadistic Tendencies.
Btw HONDA Nerd Here.
You said Cyberpunk insect styling cues just come with the territory for naked bikes.......and..... that's unfortunate because it makes them look like crap IMO...What happened to the round-ish headlights of old?...I think they should make half fairings that had retro styling cues. Kawasaki GPZ 500 but more streamlined...Think Speed Triple 1200RR...but on the Yam...They're missing the mark in the market.
Did we get confirmation the hornet is coming stateside?
I like the GSX8s the most , but would like to test ride MT09 & Z900
As long as old GSXR's or my ZX7R rides circles around those New ones, keep it dealership.
Sorry Yam- this dialog sounds like AI reading it in your voice without having done a read through first. It’s like it’s being read by someone who never saw a motorcycle.
Changed from Yamaha fz07 to Suzuki 8s this year. Huge upgrade. Fz/mt series is outdated. Fun but outdated.
is yams voice in this vid AI generated? Sounds like it
There are some parts of this video where it sounds like an AI-version of Yammie is narrating 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Pretty sure it is
It definitely is. 100%. Listen to 4:48-4:58
8:02 57 footballs 8:42 heavier than the "Mount"
in europe hornet -91,9 HP / 9500 RPM and 74.4 Nm / 7000RPM. MT07 - 73,4 HP/ 8750RPM and 67Nm/6500RPM GSX 8s- 83HP/8500RPM 78Nm/6800RPM
I just want a 2023 Suzuki Sv650 in Dubai Black. Can't find one here in southern California
All the supposed Suzuki dealers have just one in blue and one in grey blah
The guy in the fact segment looks like a handsome version of Papa Yam
When are people going to learn that the music on these videos completely destroys the work they put into the videos. Sounds like a funeral home appointment
The er6n is pretty awesome looks so good in person and you can get killer deals
When did they stop selling the er6n ?
So if the Hornet 750 had a big brother.... would the new CB1000 coming in 24 be that said brother? if the pics are close, its a shut up and take my money kind of deal
Now, I really do like the look of the GSX-8S, but it is so damn heavy compared to the MT07
It's 100.000 Baht more expensive in Thailand also
Not worth the money
MT light great handling enough power
Always playing Yamaha as Favourite. Wonder how much they pay you under the table!
HEY HONDA put that 755 twin engine is a CBR style bike that weighs under 430lbs with a MSRP under 8500 and you'll sell a boat load of them.
For some reason I go krazy for my fz8 am indecisive to change......
2:15 right side up, not upside down ;-)
No upside down forks on Yamaha MT07… why would you say that?
Are these middleweights suitable beginner bikes?
Could be, especially with riding mods set on lower power output. But I'd recommend you go with either 125, 300 or 400cc bike.
the absolute highest I would go as a beginner would probably be the suzuki sv650; reliable, dirt cheap, just good specs
I’d prefer if the Z650 was included and shit on; for fun
2023 MT-07 has conventional front suspension. Not upside down forks.
Even the mt-03 has usd forks
I do love my MT07. But....I am selling it it get a GSXR 750. Gotta let my squid out. Lol
They make those in a 1000cc size. Didn't know if you knew or not.
How to spot a Yamaha fanboy: discusses MT07 - doesn't mention the lurching, snatchy throttle or overcooked pasta suspension.
I’ve owned this bike now for 3 weeks. The worst issue is the fueling and jerky throttle. It’s terrible
Pretty funny in this one
Prefer underbelly exhaust. Honda could easily lose 2 pounds by decreasing size of the ugly side mounted exhaust