JUST PICKED UP an INEOS GRENADIER
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00:00 intro
00:30 Whats going on
01:10 HOW I GOT THERE
03:10 100-800kms in
06:43 Fuel Concerns
08:22 The Cockpit
12:21 Seating space
14:14 100-700km Driving impressions
17:06 THE BIG QUESTIONS
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Every car reviewer: "The steering is extremely vague, cumbersome"
Ronny (having just jumped out of a 79): "The steering is quite responsive"
😂
😂 yes at speed it is, going slow is a different story but this is also an advantage pending on situation
When we test drove we did not even notice the steering despite being warned. I think its too many are used to driving street cars like cross overs and not real 4x4s. I have a Power Wagon as a Daily driver and my wife has a 4 runner we are trading up for instance.
@@Ronny_Dahl I never noticed it when I picked mine up either, But I'm used to defender 110's and tractors. I guess if you jumped out of a discovery 5 it would seem pretty sluggish. Have you seen this? its a pretty interesting tear down of the underneath...czcams.com/video/P41pZAX70U4/video.htmlsi=oiq6MUNR90aXr0Xk
Every car reviewer: "..."
Ronny (having just jumped out of a 79): "They have incorporated an armrest into the door!"
He said what he was paid for… I stopped taking him seriously a long time ago.
At last. A proper long term review. Just this intro gives far more about the Grenedier than 99% of the other spec sheet reads out there. Please give us regular updates.
But is it a Grenadier or a Genadier, Ronny needs to learn how to proof read his titles.
Ineos has given us the vehicle that Land Rover refuses to. A great start. Will make a great tourer with some basic mods.
It's pretty crazy that LR, with all the tooling at their disposal, let a whole new car company spring up rather than just keep making the Defender
That’s because LR know better than to keep making a vehicle that no longer meets regulations.
They refused by making a newer better Defender to replace the old outdated one.
They did keep making the Defender but modernised it. Ineos is rubbish.
@@jerrymyahzcat yes, but the new defender is a car, not a 4wd. You would have to be mad to take it off-road.
@@jerrymyahzcat you really don’t know anything about off-roading if you think the new Defender is merely “modernized”
It’s not that Landrover refuses to give you. It’s that they incapable.
Great video mate. Few comments from an owner: BD now has a long range fuel tank adding 68L. Steering can be improved by increasing castor adjustment. Quite a few companies are making dash covers with storage pockets. Check out Mellvill and Moon or Tougher. Installed redarc charger and Lithium and separated circuits. GVM upgrade also already out from Expedition HQ. Eibach has a small 40mm coil lift available. 285/70/17 (33”) fits fine on the rear door and combined with Eibach gives you about 2” lift which makes a difference and is still legal in WA. Enjoy!
wow with the availability of a 68 tire tank that gives a driver 158 litre fuel capacity, that would even make ASPW happy Ronny has no worries if he installs one, the B57 diesel from what i have known of them in Canada is reliable ,powerful and decent fuel economy, i got his info from a BMW tech of 30 yrs experience, the only thing about them in Canada the starting price is near $100k CDN, so i will have to wait for used one in a few years time
Marks4WD hinted that they had a Grenadier, maybe a portal kit is in the works?
Ineos, having given you the Grenadier to test - over an extended period of time as well - is a testament to the high regard the 4x4 community hold Ronny. As opposed to some other 4x4 so-called "fundi's" who were not able to do so. Well done Ronny and looking forward to the forthcoming videos.
more realistic testing than was done during development
He who shall not be named … ASPW 😂😂😂
@@MikeT808 😊
Went away for a weekend with a guy who owns a Grenadier. Watching it come up a very shaley and very steep hill was amazing while every other vehicle struggled at times the Grenadier just walked up. Very impressive
Great, been a UK owner of a 2 seat commercial diesel for 10 months and use it for work in fencing and forestry, would love to see remote axle breathers and and a true snorkel. I did a DIY drawer set up and swapped tyres out for Cooper stt pro's. You can gain 2 inch of room for the right foot if you cut the floor trim, also want to look at improving the bump stops on the steering, to improve turning circle. One bit of advise is give the truck a chance, as I've really grown to appreciate just how good it is, if a little overcomplicated. Great stuff Ronny.👍
A lot of the British owners in the Grenedier group are way too defensive of this vehicle. They don’t seem to understand the necessity of extreme durability required in the Australian outback. Like the amount of plastics in the cooling system in the BMW engine etc.
All cool and well to loose all your cooling in the British country side where you can quickly find spares etc….but good luck doing the Canning Stock Route and having your cooling system fail on you and the nearest spare parts or mechanic is a few hours flight away..
I'm guessing that you are self employed, were you able to deduct the VAT?
I've heard that's not possible due to registration from enios side and payload.
I don't live in the UK (Scandinavia) and I'm interested in the pickup version of the grenadier. Mainly due to tax reasons here. Otherwise I would take the one you have.
Did you mean you can gain 2 inch of room for the LEFT foot if you cut the floor trim? The lack room for the left foot really put me off the car as I couldn't imagine a long drive in that driving position.
So a rebuild to make it as good as a Landry! 🤣
@@mtadc1545 I feel like Australia needs an 'Arctic Truck' spec equivalent for your very specific needs.
.....that ZF 8-speed auto is absolutely bulletproof
Ronny, FYI owner for 4 months loving it (my 10th 4x4) over 40+ yrs, Brown Davis Sydney fit a 70 Litre tank replaces rear muffler - gives 160L total + with 2 Jerry's, CSR here we come! BTW after 5,000 ks 10% improved economy, after another 5k, another approx 10% improvement (on road & minimal load). Electrical yes just add CTEK 250se , added TJM air pro replaced hi-lift jack, 33" Mickeys without lifting (for now).
Glad to hear someone else understands the benefits of being able to use low range unlocked (or front hubs unlocked) to back up a trailer. My dad and I did this with his manual transmission 1989 F-150. Lot's of torque and low speed made for great control. If the center is locked you can still do this on low traction surfaces, but you still get a lot of binding up and the steering may fight tight maneuverers.
Great for backing a boat into the water aswell
Just like the 1970 Range Rover.
@@clooperman3745 Or any vehicle with manual locking hubs. Nothing new.
Brown Davis has a 68 Litre auxillary tank for this.
Crap and leaks
Care to elaborate? Are you talking about the company product in general or the specific tank for a Ineos Grenadier?@@TheLukaszpg
If that specific one is bad it doesn't matter. What matters is the space is there so other options will be available soon.
Took a test drive and omg what a car I loved it.
The dual cab due in the dealer in a month or so and they have a 1 ton payload upgrade to the suspension.
I think this is going to be a game changer in the dual cab range.
Looking forward to the next next few months of videos for this car.
A suggestion for making the review process even and consistent for everyone that might be looking at these, don't do anything that affects off-road capabilities to it for the first half of your time possessing it. Just run it full stock, or at most, change the tires out and add something like a radio. Let's see what it does in its factory state.
After that, make your upgrades be those that are the most common performance changes, rather than what we'd call 'mall crawler' changes. Things where appearance takes a backseat to function. Keep the costs of those performance changes as reasonably priced as possible, so that other buyers see what kind of bang for buck they can get with changes, and try to keep even those changes reversible.
+1
I agree with everything except keeping the cost low this is a 100k vehicle, if you're buying this you can afford quality upgrades
@@Jacobtheunwise 120k plus. in Oz.
I guess you must be new here, firstly welcome! Second Ronny is all about function, he does like looks but function comes first
@@THEpicND he literally in his early 70-series video years ago discussed how his spare tire was placed for looks up high.
My old manager had a x3 30d and it did 400,000kms without any major dramas so definitely vouch for this engine!
Brilliant you’ve got this Ronny! Looking forward to seeing what you do with it
ASW will be sooooo greeeen ! and pissed haha!
Yes, the "influenza" will be most indignant !
20,000 klms in my Trialmaster B57 and loving it, possibly the first registered Gren on Fraser Island, it just loved the sand tracks, we were inside the island mostly on 17" rims with BFG KO2 at 18 psi. It has been in locker situations without failure. Seating to me is spot on when I have it in a high position so I can see the fronts of both mudguards and I have driven 3x6 hour stints straight without issues, my foot is rarely on the rest. I am 70 years on, near 6 foot, and have owned a 1959 series II for over 20 years, making the Grenadier, Bliss. The bonnet is alloy and has 2 anchor points so you can have it near touching the windscreen when working under it. Looking forward to your build.
Mine was the first on Fraser
@tomalophicon 😂 nah mine was
@@doofmanchu I invented the Grenadier so there
Look forward to see what this vehicle can do in Australian conditions. A big win is the steel front bar, especially remote, couple of hoops and she’s good to go, get a bigger fuel tank.
There’s a new long range tank coming.
@RabidWombatitz it's here already 67lts Brown and Davis
I've been waiting for someone to do a test like this. I drove one the other day. It was pretty impressive. Nice one mate, looking forward to this series.
LEGEND. Thank you for doing your part to keep tradition solid axle 4x4s alive and on the market. Grenadier owners all get a beer on me if/when I meet them.
Really happy to see this, I suspect you’ll like it, I have now put about 27000km on mine, I have done a lot of towing with it, it’s a very good tow truck. The ineos forum is good for info if you’re looking for it. For example I see that there is an aftermarket rear ladder which incorporates a jerry can holder. I might get that. I did a 3000km run with a 90kg roof tent and a 25kg awning, with the weight of the rack that was right at the max dynamic roof load. It handled the weight very well, waaaay better than my old defender would have. It’s not perfect, but no vehicle is, it will be really interesting to see how you get on with it in comparison to your 2.8 cruiser. One thing I will say is it I think there are issues with my car and moisture inside the doors causing glitches with the door locks. I haven’t proven this yet but after two periods of very wet weather, flooded roads etc I had issues with the car not locking and also with the car not wanting to engage gear because it thought the door was open. I solved this by spraying water dispersant into the locking mechanism. I have not done any deep wading in it but I suspect prolonged deep wading could be a problem so I’d be tempted to remove the door inners and check out all the connectors and proof them with something like Lanoguard grease or similar. That’s what I plan to do at some point. There's a 2” (ish) lift kit available from the OEM spring manufacturers too. I have 33’s on mine and it runs great.
Now get some 35’s on it and go get it dirty.
WOW, for years I have watched your videos, and I have to admit when you start talking about the great god toyota, I start to go to sleep. I drove a toyota once and the the price of parts was more expensive than our other car, a Porsche. At the end of the day no-one has ever stepped out of a toyota and said, 'that was a comfortable ride'. THANK YOU for choosing something different
We noticed that with our 70 Series. Toyota Kenya want US$300 for a wiper relay, and because it's not a standard relay and nobody else makes it, you have to go to them. I even checked in other countries in case it was Kenya's insane import duties, but even then the cheapest I found (in the USA of all places) was still over US$200. That was just the beginning of me learning how insane Toyota's parts prices are. I'll never have another one, our Land Rovers cost far less to buy and run, and Toyota reliability isn't all that great either (although better than our Discovery 3, but nowhere near as good as my old Series III).
I honestly think that aside from the 4WD essentials in the design, its best feature is the built in electrical connections for things on the roof of the vehicle. All connected to cleanly and conveniently placed switches. Another design feature that is really well thought out is the universal towbar mount (receiver hitch) that meets all market requirements. That is especially good for here in Japan where we have a mismatch of US, AUS, NZ, EU etc towbars for vehicles and trailers with 2" couplers and 50mm couplers. This really makes life much easier. However, I absolutely loathe not having a speedometer and other dials directly in front of me. Even if the Ineos Grenadier were sold here in Japan, that would be enough to put me off buying it. Such is my hatred for centrally placed speedometers.
Love mine. Had a few teething issues as one of the earlier deliveries but sorted quickly.
Outstanding and awesome as always.Looking forward to upgrades and future content about this vehicle.Thanks for sharing and taking us along
I must have watched most or all of your videos, it was hard for me to consider any car but Toyota for overlanding in off beaten paths, but i could not resist This one. i received mine in same color with winch, hitch, lockers, slider and 17" steelees Last December in USA. very interested to see how it compares to your new Toyota in stock form first and then with upgrades. thanks and cheers
Toyota? Ugh!
Looking forward to your mods, especially suspension lift, tyre size and second battery setup.
This vehicle is a sweet drive.
Spot on review. Thank you for making it. Holding back till you had a proper test over time.
Got the chance to sit and explore one at a show. Very impressed and would love one in a few years. It is the best out there from what i can see.
Plenty pros that you covered. Love it.
Concerns here are.
- The back little door. Wish the big door opened first. Then the latch for the big back door being inside> Will something block that.
- The rear floor height.>What is under there and can it have a bigger tank added there maybe.
- You mentioned the hump in the floor. > keen to know if that's a pain over time driving?
- Please explore the under side
- That rear ladder. Its pretty but dangerous being slippery and feet sore.
- Keen to see how everything one needs fits in the back.
Please keep posting how it goes over time.
Keep up the good work
Don’t lose the little retaining pin in the HI LO lever or you could be stranded out there! Don’t ignore this one. Really keen to see how you go with this one Ronny!
Finally a review I can trust!!
Had mine virtually a year now and 18,800 miles. I'm very happy with it; some teething issues with software, door seals and water in the sills, but after rectification it has been a faithful servant. It is still rather thirsty, 25mpg overall but it goes well and pressing the pedal can be a little addictive. No deserts in the UK, but we do have a lot of mud, bits of forest and narrow tracks.
I've been very excited about this vehicle and they are hinting at a duel cab version as well, a very balanced review Ronny. 👏
Looks awesome in that color/configuration 👌
Excited to the build and the trips you take it on 👍
Have fun mate. Beware the low hanging steering damper. My 1st Discovery had the steering damper there. Off road and smack, steering jammed... Relocated it using Defender steering gear.
Can't believe Ineos did this. I agree with that left foot rest issue.
Top notch review, as always. Thanks Ronny!
The the shots with you in the passenger and driver seat is frickin awesome! Great video🤙
Well done for getting hold of a long term loaner from Ineos!. Looking forward to the series. Cheers
I have had my Grenadier Trialmaster for a couple of months now, and love it, 295/70r17 Yokohama tyres which interestingly say 34" x 12" on the side walls with Black Rhino Yellowstone 38p rims were fitted pre delivery with no rubbing, then a week later Eibach springs 35mm raised were fitted, and they are designed to go with the factory stock monotube shock absorbers.
The huge chassis on the Ineos Grenadier is hydroformed, for a production vehicle they are about 5 times the cost to manufacture than a conventional chassis, hydroformed chassis are far more durable.
I have just returned from a SA / VIC, border track trip Ngarkat conservation park and it did it all very easily as you would expect, but it was how easily it did it, and no rubbing at all, some people in the US have put 35" tyres with 40p offset on they say with no rubbing ?.
Brown Davis make a 68 litre auxiliary tank which I have ordered, and the best thing about the Brown Davis tank is you get to keep the rear bash plate to protect it.
Great clip as always Rodney, very interesting and I can’t wait to see the long-term reviews of this vehicle.
We saw one parked down in Melbourne at the start of the year and I must’ve stood there for 20 minutes in the rain just staring at it in awe !. Very impressive indeed.
You mentioned about fuel anxiety, I think I would have warning, light anxiety at the 9:58 mark when you first turned the key on, and the whole dashboard lit up like a Christmas tree. Imagine that on the Simpson desert, trying to find an error code. 🤣🤣
The only issues I see with these those are the cost of repair ( out of warranty ) and that battery inside under my kids backside - side impact and 💥🌋 no thank you, too dangerous. Much prefer batteries outside of the cabin behind a firewall.
Good luck with it though mate, nice ride and look forward to your thoughts of it in another 12 months or so. 👍👍
Nice work!
Looking forward to the journey, very interesting indeed.
Man, it’s ticking some serious boxes already that many vehicles just can’t do, from showroom
Good score Ronny, will make your channel even more interesting ........ A task I thought impossible!
Nice one Ronnie - look forward to seeing what you do to it. I’m three weeks short of twelve months with mine (RHD) and covered 12,000 miles - including some long European trips. The left foot rest is not ideal, but, if you raise your seat as high as is comfortable, then adjust front and back position, it lessens the difference between legs - to the point where I don’t even think about it any more (I’m 188cm). Good luck with the project …….
Fantastic news! Well done Ronny!
Stoked. Own that exact spec in the States. Excited to see what you do with it.
What a beautiful bit of kit. I’ve been seeing quite a few of these getting around central Queensland, some of the farmers up here rate them.
So keen to see more of this 👍
This will be interesting. From someone with a JK Wrangler and not impressed with the price on the petrol only JL with low tow capacity, this looks like a contender with the 6 cyl diesel and higher tow capacity we Jeepers have been asking for. Keen to see how it handles offroad/articulation.
Can’t wait to see more on this vehicle! Looking forward to a playlist!
Fantastic !
Loved the roof wiring and switches.
Love the front and rear , rated, hitch points !
Only 90 litre tank. Not quite enough to do 700 k’s when it’s loaded.
Agreed: 120 to 130 litres is a must.
Thanks Ronnie
Ah, Ronnie you are keepiing us in suspense! Great new surprise addition to the fleet.
I already said this under Andrew St Pierre Whites review of this car: this car has many, many basic pieces of equipment from factory to make it a no-brainer for commercial users. In Europe, especially in Germany, your car must be proven roadworthy every few years (TÜV & DEKRA). Also every single modification must be proven safe for driving. This means modifying your vehicle not only risk your factory warranty but also your road allowance. Offering winches, lockers, and electric wiring from factory eliminates these risks.
I want to see long range and long time tests, because those really show how good the vehicle is. If it is comfortable and reliable on long runs, it will be good for the overlanding- and off-road-camping community.
The price doesn't make it a no brainer
@@livintherealworld why not?
Show me any other car that has a winch, three differential locks, a second battery, and that many pre-wired auxiliary buttons from factory and covered by warranty for less than 100k €.
Jim Ratcliff said it multiple times, the Grenadier is meant to be the successor of the old Defender as a utility vehicle. It is made for European farmers. It was never meant for Australia or Africa. Otherwise it had a manual Toyota engine and drive train and way less stock equipment.
The Grenadier is made for people who *need* such a vehicle, in terms of necessity: farmers, foresters, hunters, police, firefighters, coast guards, construction workers. The Grenadier is like a mini Unimog. Those people can buy a Grenadier and use it without having to modify any of the essential parts of the vehicle. As said modifying your vehicle is not as easy in Europe as it is elsewhere. We have very strict rules for vehicles to be street legal at all and any modifications bear the risk of loosing the factory warranty.
A farmer can buy the Grenadier in off-road configuration, with the Diesel engine for less than 100k €. That is maybe midrange for utility vehicles in that field of work. The same farmer can slap some work lights on the already existing wires, some tires, and that's it. He can refuel it on his own farm and write it off for tax exemptions.
All that completely without the need or even risk of having his vehicle re-evaluated for its street legality and safety. He can use it without any major changes and still has factory warranty in case anything breaks, what is a big factor for commercial users.
Vice versa the Grenadier is not meant for your local handyman, not for plumbers, electricians or other people that just haul some tools and stuff. In Europe no handyman *needs* an off-road vehicle.
And let's be honest here. The Grenadier costs about 95.000 € fully equipped with everything the manufacturer offers, with all the technical standards of 2024.
How much cheaper is a Land Cruiser 70 after you modified it to match the Grenadier? You would have to add Differential Lockers plus the rear axle adjustment, a winch, a second battery, all the electric wiring, rock sliders, Recaro seats etc. You would get to that 95k€ very fast and after all you would still miss all the modern bits and pieces.
The Grenadier has it distinct place and it is not meant to replace the Land Cruiser 70 as an overlanding or off-road-camping vehicle in Australia.
@lbbde1 Why not?
Firstly this is Australia, not Europe.
Secondly at no point was I comparing it to a Toyota.
Lastly there is already a vehicle available with live axle, full lockers, recovery points, pre wired aux switches, 2 batteries, steel bumpers and recovery points for many thousands less than the Grenadier.
@@livintherealworld maybe YOU are in Australia, but Australia is a very small market. Australia has 26 million people, about as much as Belgium and the Netherlands. The whole EU has 450 million people, North America another 500 million.
The point is that the Grenadier is not made to appeal the Australian market because it is such a small one. The Grenadier is made for the European market, because it has no competitors around here, except for the Mercedes G Professional, but even the G Pro no longer has a solid front axle and the G-Class is not designed as a utility vehicle.
The Grenadier will find its buyers in Australia but it was never designed to be a camper, an overlander, or a rock crawler. It is a daily use utility vehicle.
Again, show me a vehicle that was introduced not longer than a decade ago that has all the off-road, comfort, and utility features that the Grenadier has *from Factory*.
@@lbbde1If it was made for Europe, why did they make it so heavy that the payload is suffering?
We are limited to 3500kg.
AFAIK, you can't even deduct the VAT in the UK due to low payload and registration from enios side.
Regarding mods, Germany is probably one of the stricter countries in Europe. There are plenty that isn't. Also, offroading in Germany (outside farm use) is almost vanished. That's why all ze germans drive to other countries and misbehave.
There are plenty of handymans that need 4*4 in Europe.
EDIT; Throwing out numbers on how many people live in AU vs Europe is just silly.
Instead we need to check sales on proper 4*4 (pick-ups, enios, 70 series, patrol, land cruiser etc) in AU vs Europe.
4*4s in Europe are taxed HARD and isn't very popular here.
I won't check all 4*4s sale figures but toyota sold ~61 000 hilux in Europe 2023. In AU ~61 000.
Ranger sold 58 500 in Europe and 63 500 in AU.
Great video. I’ve just added new suspension, 33s, James Baroud awning and RTT to mine. Have the brown and Davis long range tank on the way. Love me grenadier and have come from a Sahara.
great initial taster - looking forward to the next stage
I am looking forward to seeing what you do with this car.
Nice review, love the fact that the manufacturer will supply an vehicle for this type of review.
OMG
I can’t wait to see how things going!!!
Fantastic brief rundown. Just as well you have the Dahl Cave for storage.
Will be interesting to see what you do.
Good to see all the tech that is standard, would be great to know the $$$ too
Really looking forward to your review Ronny - you’re honest and fair, and helps us decide what to buy.
Great to see you get hold of a Grenadier for an extended test period...looks like you're already picking up on range issue. I'm 5mnths into Trialmaster ownership and overall am really loving the vehicle. One major irritation has been poor carplay integration and associated poor navigation / map functionality (google maps stutters/stops regularly). Also looking for a decent 3/4 rack here in Australia - Ineos are not able to supply their advertised unit at the moment.
Looking forward to how you adapt yours to Aus conditions!
I think this is a light weight vehicle. It allready has steel front and rear bar, dual battery setup and good bash plates. And even then it has 800kg capacity. That's a lot for a wagon.
It’s heavy and it’s carrying capacity is low🤷♂️
@@Jabber-ig3iw no, it’s not. Some vehicles are already nearly at gvm with two steel bars, bash plates and dual batteries. This thing has almost 800kg capacity left.
Most wagons like land cruisers and patrols have about 800kg capacity at most with plastic front and rear. This thing has 800kg capacity when fully protected. So yes, this thing is not heavy at all and can carry a bunch, all things considered.
@@autobootpilootwhat have you been smoking. It’s ridiculously heavy to start off with @ 2646kg. Why do claim it’s light?
Giant turning circle too.
@@jerrymyahzcat I have been smoking brain. It already has most of the heavy stuff other vehicles still need. It has a few hundred kg of goods no other comparable car has from factory. Add all this stuff to a patrol or cruiser and you are at gvm with a full tank of fuel and two people. Literally.
Camper Choices by BDM Leather (WA based) has a Dash Organiser for the INEOS to fix your glasses problem on the dash. I have one on my 2 seater Grenadier. Pricey but worth it, like their bags that fit under the passenger and drivers seats (customised to the old shape under there). Underseat bags are pricey as well, but I have used them so much, I no longer care or even think about the price.
Yep. i have their dash organizer and underseat bags and they are the ducks nuts
Really looking forward to seeing this long term review 😍
This is fantastic Ronny! Love my Toyota, but it's great to see professionals really tackling other vehicles to see their viability. Excited!
Speaking of modifying... today I saw a spotless 300 series in Freo with a 4" lift and massive muddies. No other mods. Still laughing.
I got to drive one a year ago. Coming from a landrover 110, it impressed me. 2 things that made me buy a new Auto 70 series over it was. 1, left leg position. Drove me nuts. Can't move it around. 2, repairs in the sticks... can't roll into Mt Isa and get any mech to work on it. I think they are brilliant, but suited more for the landrover die hards that never left capital cities. When they get a dealer network outside of big capital cities, they will be winners. But still won't buy one due to left leg location...
I’ve heard the left leg issue is a deal breaker on RHD models.
Very curious on this vehicle since it is built for the offroad market. Great research and review👍🏼
Passenger seat editing 👌🔥
Great video pal , cant wait for your mods
Mate, this is fricken awesome! Can’t wait to see the upcoming vids👏
Finally subscribed.
Had my Magic Mushroom 5 seater Utility since August (in UK).
Having trouble faulting it.
I’m 6’2”, so after 5 hours I need to stretch my legs, but my bladder makes the call first!
Looking forward to your updates.
haha a Russell Coight reference at the end there! Time to hit the road!
I reckon a good test would be to call up a remote mechanic workshop and ask for a quote and time estimate on a repair on a common breakdown on these things and see how it compares to a landcruiser or patrol
Came here to ask the same question.
Probably the same. As someone who actually lives and works remote wait times for parts on any vehicle or heavy machinery is about the same... too long haha
I doubt they’ve even heard of them. It’s like asking if they can fix a Cybertruck, or even a new Bronco or Prado.
(Grenadier) "The world are going that way, we decided to go this way." Bit nostalgic, but I wish I can have one.
Speedo, fuel, etc. are on the center console to reduce costs on the display infront of the driver for different LHD/RHD markets.
The raised air intake not being a snorkel is a bit of a letdown and I feel will catch some people out.
Fuel tank capacity is a bit of a letdown but there's now some pretty hefty subtanks!
Looks like a Chassis Cab version is in the works, so would definitely be interesting to see one of those paired with a canopy and rooftop tent.
Excited to see how it'll handle the Aussie outback!
Hey Ronny, great intro, it will be very interesting to see how it performs, put through your future tests! Rite off the bat, It fails against the new 76, regarding its initial purchase price, its lack of fuel economy, & as mentioned fuel capacity, its weight and that left foot problem aint going away soon! Maybe Ineos's second rendition will be even better sorted! It looks great, like a very well sorted Defender, however with nicer proportions and I'm guessing its actually relatively reliable, which the landrover never managed!!! Love the colour! Thanks Ronny
100 % agree with the footrest problem, that really needs to be sorted. Nobody wants to drive around with their foot stuck in that position for a long time
INEOS might be able to improve upon the 2nd generation Grenadier from the feedback received from Ronny to cater for Australian conditions IMO
Interesting to see Ronny engage with this vehicle. It's got a lot of luxury and thoughtful design features of a type that I don't think Ronny typically comments on, given they are usually found in vehicles he dismisses as "shopping trolleys" or "luxury vehicle, not meant for off-road". This car really is taking Mercedes G-Wagon refinement and supercar-type bespoke design, then combining it with premium power and incorporating old-school construction, totally different beast compared to a 70 or even an LC300.
A really good watch, as someone who loves aviation from when the grenadier first came to light watching on ASPW on 4XO I had a feeling it would be a vehicle I would want. After watching your first video out about this, certinly ticking many boxes. That aux power stuff been factory crazy good feature, 30A per channel? Keen to follow all these out about Grenadier as they come. Cheers
HI Ronny not sure I would call it a base model Trialmaster leather seats ,raised air intake,safari windows etc. Its already quite a high spec same as mine.
Good kickoff no surprises yet.
Just did a 10 day 5000km run out of perth and found it comfortable enough. However I plan on modifying that footrest!!
There are some LR tanks coming onto market which is good.
There has been some complaints about a pin sliding ut of the transfer case shifter and people not able to use it when this happen.It would good to check that. Also, some people broke the fuel lines when off roading (somewhere in the middle of the car when there is a plastic connection). Some owners complaint they haven received the manual and it is difficult to get hold from people at Ineos. These are some ideas to check. Very happy that you are doing a long term review on this car.
Love the vehicle. What a great time to like 4x4s
Someone has made a 68L Subtank located where the muffler is behind the bash plate.
Yep. It’s not quite fully released but is imminent.
Brown and Davis. It is available in Western Australia. 68 litre capacity.
@@andypearce7479 I knew it was Brown Davis but last time I checked it was awaiting the Y piece. Who has it in stock here please?
@@RabidWombatz I think the forum is talking about the BD shop in Wangara? Might be wrong…
looking forward to this series with the grenadier. Blacksheep innovations has some very interesting looking kit for this vehicle such as a gas can that goes in the middle of the spare tire holder and rock sliders that are higher up than the factory ones and hence more functional. the factory sliders seem a bit low. but we will find out.
I kinda think the grenadier is made for desert like terrain and will struggle with more of the minor rock crawling type stuff due to lack of clearance.
About time we have some variety in your cars! Going to be a great build!
Good choice! Put through it's paces. I'll be interesting how it performs OEM and what mods can be done.
Not something that's unique to the Grenadier but I hate the way modern vehicles have so many surfaces on the interior that are either curved, slippery or covered in controls.
Seems like manufacturers don't understand the benefit (especially on 4x4xs) of simply having flat spaces where you can dump stuff when you climb in.
The centre console of my Disco' 2 is almost like a coffee table.
Around the gear levers there's enough space to dump your phone, keys, loose change, smokes, spanners, tape-measure and other junk and it'll all stay there while driving.
It's all very well having cubby boxes to store stuff but you can't beat just having flat spaces.
Looking forward to seeing how you get on with the wading mode. I struggle with getting that mode to work. In other respects
I am loving mine driving in Europe with LH drive and no awkward driving positions as a result.
Looking forward to seeing how it goes. I had one on order in almost this same spec, but cancelled cause I had a 79 on order that turned up first. But very interested in the platform
Nice Ronnie! We have 2 Diesel Jeeps. I’m waiting for the Ineos Fusilier electric to come out. We can’t get a Diesel Grenadier here in the US. Looking forward to your adventures in it. Lot more exciting vehicle than the 2.8 Land Cruiser. Cheers!
Really looking forward to seeing how this thing goes.
Love this motor and being UK side, Sir JR is a gentry. Can you test this to its total load out and then to its total incline capability because he claims it took on the Mongolian desert but the documentary showed only flat ground but I plan to go on a full overland adventure that has everything other than flat ground.
Keep the great reviews coming as love this channel.
Of all the 4wds around today, this is the one I want to see succeed. I will never be able to afford one but I just love the whole concept of it.
agreed. but that limited room for the driver's foot. huge issue.
Yeah definitely want to see the upper class only insanely priced 4wd succeed over affordable options
@@SledTillDead Well it is expensive I'll grant you that but they are starting from zero so I guess they need to try and get things going somehow. I drive a 20+ year old 90 series because I can't afford anything better but I still would like to see this succeed. No reason other affordable stuff can't succeed too I think...
Awesome first vid, thanks. Cramped left leg room rules it out for me unfortunately. Just sold my RAM for the same problem and liked the Quatermaster, but will see how a Ranger Raptor goes instead.
Ground clearance along with 50mm suspension lift and 33inch tyres. For me the rest I don't think I'd modify. Look forward to more on this car, cheers.
Good score on the Grenadier, will be interested in the mods you do. Been watching some US based channels and they are getting right into custom suspension setups and winch bars so the future for them is looking good.
Great video mate and good on to Ineos for loaning you the vehicle.
I was very excited about buying one to replace my 2013 Defender but, my next door neighbour bought one and I have to say I was impressed and disappointed at the same time. It is not perfect and with a starting price tag of $140k with just basics such as diff locks, winch and roof rack it is a very expensive toy to have. I think this will serve people that are now retired and have plenty cash to afford one.
Cheers
This is great news. It’s going to be honest …. Ye can’t beat that 👍
Awesome car with some gremlins to adjust too.
Interested to see how you trip in it and contend with the weight and possible inflexibility with modifying it. Good luck 💪
Ps, the fuel gauge is abit vague 🥴 Don’t depend on it on those very long trips. Record your fuel up odo and work on when you should be refuelling, not the indicator. 🤷♂️
Best review of the Ineos I’ve seen so far.
its always a pleasure watching off roaders review new cars, one that cracks me up the most is new auto 76/79 - "the 6spd auto is a revelation" 😂😂😂😂
now the granedier is luxurious😅
just get a Raptor or Defender
He will love the lockers turning off on the beach when you do the vehicle.