NEW BYD Atto 3 review - the best EV from China? | What Car?
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In this review of the BYD Atto 3, we look at what this new Chinese electric SUV has to offer.
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Owned one for 13000 kms and just under a year, put it on road for AUD $47k. I easily average 14 kWh per 100 km. I’ve done long road trips on Australian regional roads both bitumen and dirt and find the car is quiet and handles fine for a family SUV.
I’d confidently say it’s the best long distance driving vehicle I’ve ever owned as far as driving comfort and reducing fatigue. Infotainment systems far superior to German and Korean cars, LFP blade batteries have no recall issues so far and BYDs don’t suffer BMS and inverter problems currently effecting Korean cars. Charging network in Australia mainly limited to 50 Kw “ fast” charging units so the 80 kWh speed no real disadvantage yet.
I do wish we had your 11 kWh AC onboard charging speed feature as we are limited to 7 kWh in the antipodes.
Finally LFP batteries advantage is they are easier to recycle have longer service life, good performance in hot weather and for all your ignorant anti EV friends no children down the mines required, not sure why Atto’s are so expensive in Europe selling like hotcakes down here go figure🤔
I'm interested in learning more about "BMS and inverter problems currently effecting Korean cars". Do you have a source for this information?
Are you Chinese?
@@JWL-UK Hi mate check out Ionic guy posts on CZcams regarding issues with AC charging and BMS issues ionic 5 several recalls issued by Hyundai motor group. Hyundai Kona still quietly replacing battery packs for these vehicles under warranty herein Oz issues with LG chem ternary batteries and BMS lastly coolant crystallisation problems blocking thermal management systems in Kona so I assume Niro will have same issue. Plenty of info on issues if you go look, I think you can safely say Tesla and potentially BYD already 2 generations ahead with BEV tech compared to legacy auto.👍
The batteries are an integral part of the chassis, so changing them in the future is going to be near damn impossible.
This is false. LFPs recycling is not easier due to difficult/expensive processing and lack of precious metals recovered, compared to NCM/A which is already profitable. And LFP's lifespan in EVs is largely unknown at this point. Based on short-term data from Tessie (via Cleanwatts) however, it indicates the opposite:
Tesla LFP Battery 10% RANGE LOSS PROBLEM? | Model 3 RWD
The brand new LFP batteries will degrade substantially quicker. There's not long-term retention data for LFP batteries on the market yet, but the trend tends to be substantially faster degradation. Trends show them stabilizing around that 10% degradation mark in about half the time as non-LFP batteries - around 50,000 miles instead of 100,000 miles."
see "Financial viability of electric vehicle lithium-ion battery recycling" iScienceVolume 24, Issue 7, 23 July 2021
@ 3:35 - Voice control is actually pretty good, and (with almost a year of ownership) I seldom need to take my hands of the wheel on any trip as it carries out many functions seamlessly. For example, while the reviewer @ 4:45 prefers "physical buttons" to adjust temp and fan speed, I just talk to it and it happens... so no need to take eyes off the road at all.
BYD deliberately chose a low charging speed for battery longevity. Unless you regularly travel over 300km in any given day you will never need to use a fast charger. I have done monthly trips just over 300km and always managed to recharge at home to top the battery back up. In a years ownership my charging bill is under $150 and that's only because I use the 50kW charger at Ikea whenever I shop there (Ikea's per kW rate is a few cents cheaper than my overnight rate at home!).
Like many others who have commented AND own an Atto 3, my driving experience has been extremely positive. However, as with any front wheel drive, take care accelerating out of corners as you might feel the rear end slipping away.
Personally, the best thing about the Atto 3 was that apart from having a great infotainment system, the transition from my ICEv really didn't require me to do much different. Being a lot older than the presenter, the idea of owning a Tesla which is controlled by a touchscreen was foreboding.
Me too... Love the responsibility, the commands are instently executed.
I disagree with most of your review. I have had one for over 6 months and am very happy with it. I find it very comfortable, especially the seats. I believe the softer ride adds to comfort and if it was firmer you would be criticising the harsh ride.
He says it’s nosy…but most owners said it is very quiet. Why the difference? I don’t believe this guy.
what country are you guys in? don’t know if its a uk spec car?
Australia @@disarchitected
@@PSmurf107 could well be the UK cars are tuned differently, very common car manufacturers do this. They seem to think Brits prefer sporty handling usually.
It is so obvious that he’s nitpicking on almost anything he can while slightly under-looking the highlights of the car 🤦🏾♂️
I must say that this expert's opinion differs A LOT from what other experts say about this car. In the reviews I've seen about this car, the general impression is that comfort and driving abilities are much better than what this man tells us.
its just a A-to-B car, thats what it's made and advertised for, and it does this job exeptionally well. (BYD doesn't even try to upsell it, at least here in asia they don't as they do have tesla-beaters and audi-killers as well ;) )
ATTO3 is absolutely not the "best" EV from China, but it's the most affordable and usable EV-SUV made for daily driving.
it would be cheaper a few years later,as long as chinese join the game , it will have lower price but high tech
The MG4 is a far better vehicle, in every respect. Cheaper, too!
@@phuketexplorer MG？nobody care MG in china, but BYD is top player
@@UCMpDwp7VEfKXRH3NyAW7kujLOL. The Atto 3 is long past its 'best before date' and is in desperate need of an update.
MG4
Swipe up from bottom of screen in CarPlay to reveal ac settings, it’s really not difficult, it amazes me how many reviews are done without fully understanding how a car functions
Bring Your Dollars
But You're Daft
@@sargfowler9603 And you're a pommy with bad teeth. Lol
@@sargfowler9603But You Did
But You Don't
@@steven.c2758 correct, I bought the new model 3. 😆
In Australia same atto 3 cost £27.4k , my brother has got one and i driven it plenty of times handels really well at all speeds nice and planted the steering is fantastic even when hoonig a bit maybe british roads are worst than here but i doubt it , my experience has been different from this review.
Thanks BYD "plant" U just made all that up! 😆
@@teslabot6517ok "Tesla it"
Our company owns 2 of them. I. Australia they are great value. More than $10k cheaper than a Niro EV.
They drive much better than what the reviewer claims in my opinion. Maybe it is because Australia has terrible roads and then you really appreciate a good supply ride
@fakejake8965 They really do , i had never experienced any of the issues the reviewer was having , my wifes mazda cx3 has a way more sensitive steering than the atto 3 and not even the mazda bothers me.
I would snap one up at that price. It’s 5k overpriced in uk
I doubt the niro can be charged to 100% every time u drive it. the real practical range daily of a niro will be much lower. The good things about LFP batt is that it could . Well enough said glad some other viewer have commented on some inconsistencies or positive experiences. The Atto 3 is definitely selling for a high premium in the UK
I knew BYD from the electric bus they make and actually now everywhere in UK.
They are driving in the Netherlands as well.
Yes, Southampton is proposing 32 electric buses to operate in the city (UniLink) at a cost to the taxpayer of £16.5 million....double the cost of Euro 6 compliant buses from Routemaster.
If byd can drive buses, they should be more than able to drive cars. This is why i bought a byd.
这个车在中国130000RMB
10:57 well the main thing is that BYD gives you a 8 (eight!!) Year warranty which does include the battery, so there are no suprise 20k bills when the battery is dead in 2 years.
All the EVs have at least 8 year/100,000 mile battery warranties. The problem with BYD is the battery only has a 60% capacity retention guarantee. Most others are 8 or 10 years and 70%.
Byd do not outsource their batteries, just ask the BYD sales , their batteries about 30 percentage of car costs
BYD Atto 3 sells for 139,800 RMB in China （19,000 USD）
China pays tariffs to other countries
You all are getting ripped off, this car is £27k in my country fully loaded.
Need more cars from china here. Its crazy how much china has advanced in a relatively short time. Their cars seem crazy good. Ive seen videos of them. The prices should be cheaper but the western governments will tax like crazy to not make them viable to come here
Some are good, some aren’t.
Let’s see how they hold up long term. I see a lot of tired and rusty LDV convoy vans around, some only 5 years old
Our company owns 2 of them. I. Australia they are great value. More than $10k cheaper than a Niro EV.
They drive much better than what the reviewer claims in my opinion. Maybe it is because Australia has terrible roads and then you really appreciate a good supply ride
The UK cars might be tuned differently. This is pretty common, that manufacturers tune their cars to local markets.
This has been available in Australia for a while and is very popular, but the cost of an ATTO 3 (and other EVs) is much less than the UK. It's around 25K GB pounds here.
25k more experiencethan china
I disagree with your review I own one in the UK the design spec and find the seat are spot on for long distance I'm getting real world test around 240 I think you did not give this an honest review are you in love with the Nero seems that way. I recommend this car to anyone I got rid of my 2023 Nissan leaf and don't regret it
Love the byd! Very popular in Australia
Hi there 50 cent, you sure are making Winnie Xi🐹proud.
@@dazm901 this is what happens when u get education from home .
I am american, dummy . Try again . I don't even like my own presidents. What is "winnie xi"? A new rock band ?
Ancap test ratings are available . Use your made in china phone Using made in china charger to comfy to made in china internet router .
If u disagree then prove your claim . Not stopping u
Here in Israel they are the number 1 best selling car currently - but the MG4 only arrived a couple of months ago, so we'll see how that pans out.
I think I'd prefer the MG4 overall.
The MG4 interior is not comparable at all with the one in Atto 3. Believe me, I tested both.
@@raul8578 perhaps, but the same is true with the driving dynamics, in favor of the MG4.
How is a infrastructure in Israel? gov pushing everyone into electric too ?
I have an MG4 SE long range and love it. Great to drive and has a range of 281 miles.
I test drove a BYD but preferred the MG.
@@raul8578Atto 3 interior is weird and ugly IMHO. It is, aimed, at a very specific audience.
Think they have mispriced that to be successful.
I understand the later models Byd only logo will be ship to Europe and other countries..like seal ....
When explaining the faffing of accessing the fan speeds, remember, the voice assistant is there for you.
Just say “hey BYD” she’s got your back.
An important point that you did not mention is that the Lithium-iron phosphate battery, does NOT burst into flames even if mechanically destroyed.
That‘s a lie. Enough video evidence from China out there to show otherwise. Australia might be lucky to be somewhat limited on fast charging. Otherwise you‘d see them randomly burning up like in China.
Charging speed is slow but unless your cought out most people will charge at home and you plug it in at night when it's cheapest and it charged in the morning...
byd is great for buses. i drive one❤❤❤
My wife is picking hers up next month! Woo hoo!
1:00 going to start saying “I’ll be there in an atto” 😅😂❤
I went on a taxi today, this was the car i was riding in and i can surely say: smoothest ride
Hope you have a chance to test-drive Byd N7, which has an industry-unmatched intelligent proactive suspension system.
hope the west can test some serious Chinese ev brand such as zeekr and nio
It needs to be £10.000 cheaper !
Just thinking that myself!
Political Tarrifs
The extended range version available in Thailand is £27,200 and the best selling EV available there.
@@Andydwyer99much more expensive to export to UK
@@Andydwyer99 Is that current exchange rate and includes VAT? Not sure what import duty we pay in the UK for cars made in China
Why do you keep on saying people don't know BYD when most buses in London are BYD/ADL?
In Australia byd fit a 215 Atlas brand which is a softer tyre, creating a very wallowy ride. Those who have changed to stiffer tyres report improved handling. Motorized sun blind and V2L cable are included.
All lithium ion batteries, including LFP, degrade faster when they are charged to 100% full. It's however required to do so frequently to recalibrate the BMS -- so to avoid misreading SOC/range.
Love your videos. Thanks for a test of a very good car. I have one and love it.
Same here.
If I ever want to build my dream of being in a Gym with a rotating screen and money is no object, I now know which car to buy.
Random - what camera was used to film this. It is an absolutely gorgeous lens.
Why did you guys disable comments on your "Best Home Charger" video?
Badly needs an update. Their new Seal has double the charging speed, AWD, better tires, bigger battery, longer range. Put them all into the Atto 3 and it's a massive seller. As it stands it's a 2 year old model, and that's a long time in EVs. Cool interior though. Comfy ride, good tech. Just give me an updated model and I'll run down to buy.
I just can't get my head around the price. In China it sells for £16,000. UK price is £36,000. Surely it doesn't cost £20,000 for shiiping, VAT, duty?
In China, you get a purchase grant, not in the UK anymore. Shipping costs, plus 10% tariff, plus VAT. Add the fact that they do not want to sell (yet) in huge volumes as that would attract calls for further tariffs or "anti-dumping" measures.
@@lozkkoUK is extortionate to live in
>> In China it sells for £16,000. UK price is £36,000.
@@tooltalk The China EV market is the most fiercely competitive market in the world. The price of ID.4 in China is less than 50% in EU. The market share of KIA's EV in China is about 0%. For fear of anti-dumping, China car makers dare not to set a low price.
@@pengchen2144及时这么高价，仍然倍欧盟反补贴调查，哈哈😂
Infotainment center looks smaller then the tesla screen
It's also much dimmer
This is a good review. Objective. Thanks.
BYD stands for Bi Ya Di. ‘Build your dreams’ is their slogan, not actual name.
Glad someone point this out. Every bloody reviewers keep saying the company name stands for Build Your Dream. "Bi Ya Di" is the Chinese name for the company which translates to BYD as a brand. The slogan "Build Your Dream" is build around the brand name. Wish these reviewers get the facts right. I like the BYD cars but I definite agree the slogan at the ack of the car does feel a bit cheesy. I would prefer it says BYD at the back and maybe have the slogan small some where lol.
All kinds of expensive systems are mandatory "in the name of safety", but distracting the driver to dig in a monitor is apparently not a problem. Hypocrisy
中国製の電気自動車は安くて良いので日本でもすごく売れると思います
Chinese made EVs are nice and cheap indeed, the only question might be whether Japanese consumers would like to give it a try.
I have a honda hybird accord of 2016 edition,now i will change a chinese car,i am chinese by the way @@cheungchingtong
"Like all voice control it is hit and miss".... Did you try it? It is incredibly
At that price there's no reason to buy this over a Kia Niro EV.
Kia Niro ev uses trash NCM chemistry battery which has a high chance of battery fires
@@manishgrg639 : China's cheap, inferior batteries are actually ok for low-range, entry-level EVs, if and only if they are 20%-30% cheaper than NCM counterparts. BYD's probelm is that their Blade LFP are almost as expensive, despite being inferior, and LFP's price can't go much lower since they've more or less reached their theoretical max without major compromises.
@@manishgrg639 kia and hyundai ev won't ever be successful once china ev available everywhere, not just korea ev has inferior battery, they still plagued by buggy software, expensive despite being bad battery and the car cost 2 byd car for some reason
6:37 bro usually 6 foot dudes are not riding my car
Was up to date the designs and various others
They tell us the battery lasts forever then they say fully charging a lithium battery damages it .....make up your mind lol and this is the problem when clueless journalists do car reviews 😮
Charging to 100% does damage Lithium Ion batteries but it's negligible even for LCM batteries. LFP batteries actually like being charged to 100% but like everything it still degrades, just like a ICE does.
Maybe you are confused by the terms lithium iron and lithium-ion. BYD has an LFP (aka LiFePO4 - lithium IRON) battery which can be regularly charged from 0 - 100% with minimal degradation compared to ternary lithium (such as NCM) batteries that prefer the 20 - 80% range or suffer degradation. All these batteries rely on lithium-ion transfer so being confused is common ground.
Yes, buy BYD make "CHINA GREAT AGAIN"
10:35 did you mention "long journeys"? :D LOL The longest journey you can take is 200 miles max 3 hours of driving then you have to recharge and do 45 minutes exercise
why I can't buy this in us:(
Political reasons like many Chinese products/platform that the US have issues with. Don't think you will ever get this in the US.
But it has black headlining. Why do manufacturers think its chic? No rain sensing wipers in this day and age. The ride is really the final deal breaker. Pass
this car is amazing!
What is the camera you shoot this video?
People who have anxiety will love those strings to pull and play with.
Any review of the BYD Seal in the pipeline yet?
BYD stands for bring your designated mechanic
Will stay with my niro e.v level 4 😊
Chery tiĝgo 8 phev is still the.most versatile vehicle
37k GBP???
This is a joke!
In other countries the max price is 26500 USD !
Protectionism and consumer rights!
Nope . Uk tariffs
No head room cause its a compact SUV
Im still hesitent on the longevity of ev's - until it can replace my 15 year civic at similar running costs, reliability and ease of diy maintence ill be the last one holding onto my ICE car.
I cannot find any comprehensive information on battery degredation from daily use after 5,10,15 years in all weather conditions .evs are not carbon neutral in ther manufacturing
ICE cars are not carbon neutral in their manufacturing.
@@connclissmann6514 absolutely, the point was - no difference
@jaybee_impossible - I can definitely change my civic for something new , but unlike some, I buy my cars,not lease - and I wouldn't want a 15 year old ev that cannot hold its charge,In the middle of winter, unable to take me to the shops and back 😂 .
if these have a shorter shelf live than ICEs then is it really better in the long term ? Would love to see some data
在中国有超过60万公里的byd电车 电池容量剩余80%以上 没错就是出租车 据受访的车主说几乎没有发现过故障 型号是byd e6
Yearly maintenance would be cheaper because EV doesn't need to change gear oil, engine oil, radiator, coolant, spark plugs, oil and air filter.
the infotainment system is such a big part of cars if that’s a faff it spoils the car and that looks a faff
No regenerative braking?
It has 3 levels of Regen 👍
I will buy an ev if they have 1000 km range with zero battery degradation
Physical buttons/knobs/sliders is costly
ATTO 3 在中国叫做“元”代表BYD王朝系列车型中的“元朝代”，而该类型的SUV销量最高的并不是它，“宋”才是排名第一位的。
我回复一下你，我猜肯定有人用翻译，想看一下咱两说啥。好奇才是人类的天性。
Does Android Auto work the same as Apple?
Yes
come on quality .. go look at almost twice the price German car quality almost the same .. you don't expect lexuary interior like 60k car ?
Michael Jackson with a head cold
the gym reference is far fetched
But does it have bonecrushing weight?! And does it hog the road?! And is the Driver a PSYCHOPATH?!!
"CARS are the DEVIL!!!!"
Morning mate
it looks like a car that is made by chatGPT/dalle-3. It's totally a car.
Geely Geometry C just surpassed Atto 3 in both range and charging speed. Rest of the features are pretty much same.
Another great review from an excellent presenter. I cannot think of any one reason to buy this car !
That car is only £18.5k in China, sell it cheap there and let Europeans pay for Chinese subsidies.
There is no EV subsidies in China from 2022 anymore. I think the reason of the high price is that China car makers fear anti-dumping investigation. Actually, EU launched it several weeks ago.
You forgot to mention they spontaneously combust.
Source ??? Proof ???
They have 5 stars on ncap
@@jacksmith-mu3ee NCAP don't test that. I'm guessing you never watch news either. You sure are making Winnie Xi🐹proud.
@@dazm901 this is what happens when u get education from home .
I am american, dummy . Try again . I don't even like my own presidents. What is "winnie xi"? A new rock band ?
Ancap test ratings are available . Use your made in china phone Using made in china charger to comfy to made in china internet router .
If u disagree then prove your claim . Not stopping u
Great idea, flip your info screen ninety degrees and obfuscate most children from your forward view. "Sorry madam I've just run over little jimmy, but just look at the clarity of the screen!"
Why don't we get the BYD in south africa 😢
Atto 3 had been in natal for 8 months
The interior turns me off so much, im so glad Seal doesn't have this funky interior
Wow crazy skin tones did someone pump up the colours and tint lol cos he's got bad skin tones
new !
no way is anyone gonna spend £37 grand on this thing when you can buy most other ev for the same or less hhhaaaaa
They do
Being a pedantic as I am! it’s not a portable plug but portable socket
It's an alright car
Why are all the shots of the infotainment screen out of focus?
Take all the good things in all the EVs and make one ultimate EV.....
Seen the price and so the rest of the excellent video is pointless.
Rẻ hơn vài ngàn USD không thể là sự lựa chọn của các nước Tây âu, Khi nào mày bán 1/2téla thì VN sẽ thích
My neighbour bought one, in his words worst purchase ever had nothing but trouble was very badly made.
You get what you pay fir?
Only trust reliable battery cars
I'd be getting rid of that writing over the bootlid.
Looks another bland SUV.
Could be another Kia, Honda or Hyundai.
What's after sales and parts going to be like for this ?
Beginning to think that these touch screens are just another large phone and a distraction for the driver.
Considering BYD build everything for their cars except for the glass and tires, I'd imagine part supply and their prices will be better than most. Plus, you don't need to use the touch screen - everything from the climate control to even opening windows can be controlled using the voice control system.
LOL. The Atto 3 is more than two years old!
This cars most obvious rival is the MG ZS EV but for some reason What Car ? likes to pretend the MG ZS EV doesn't exist.
Design car interior after gym equipment and name it the seal. 🤦🏻♂️
Not really good on the road?? Really.... I disagree with you on that bold statement
Hi there 50 cent, you sure are making Winnie Xi🐹proud.
@@dazm901 this is what happens when u get education from home .
I am american, dummy . Try again . I don't even like my own presidents. What is "winnie xi"? A new rock band ?
Ancap test ratings are available . Use your made in china phone Using made in china charger to comfy to made in china internet router .
If u disagree then prove your claim . Not stopping u
Nice fun facts