"Why I left the left" Melanie Phillips on why she left the Guardian - BQ #13
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- Former Guardian writer Melanie Phillips describes her journey from "fantasy to reality" on why she left the political left. Phillips is interviewed by The Sun's Steven Edginton for the weekly series of 'Burning Questions'. Phillips describes her experiences as a British jew, dealing with antisemitism and where the problems of the left come from.
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I like this young man. He asks great questions, doesn't continually interrupt and understands the issues. He is a credit to his generation.
She's too interesting to interrupt.
@Steven Moore You’re right. The agenda of Freedom of the Individual, the Sanctity of Human Life, Objective Truth, and the stupidity of so-called Progressive Values and Social Justice. Good for Steven Edgington and WhiteVanMan.
He is just there to facilitate her statements.
This is how Fox and Sky works. They get a like-minded person in and ask them some vague questions and let them have their head...assuming it wasn't rehearsed beorehand.
Unusual in such a young person.
@@Cheepchipsable Right, because that isn't at ALL how left-leaning outlets work. Hahahaha!
It’s so refreshing to watch an interviewer who lets the interviewee answer questions without the need to constantly interrupt.
It puts my faith back in to proper journalism, indeed
I say this every time I watch his videos. The guy is great and asks spot on questions too!
"Unprecedented barbarism" she whines on cue...........tell that to the 700,000 German men, women & children who were intentionally starved to death or died from lack of medicines for preventable diseases, all due to the evil North Sea Blockade, which started the day after WW1 was declared, and ran into mid 1919, well after the war was over........Phillips & her Zio histroians make me want to pewk.......FYI, the NSB was planned starting in 1904, under a certain PM Balfour...you know know that name don't you Phillips?.......you sleazy Zio stooge...will you tell everyone that that virtually the whole of German nation i.e 10's of millions of men,women & children, were on the brink of starvation by mid 1916........now that's what I call barbarism, Phillips......all organised and paid for by the international criminal bankers who to this day in 2020 control Wall St & the current global reserve currency, and offer unlimited financial & military support to the apartheid, ethnic cleansing State of Israel.......
It's based on respect for the person being interviewed. BBC interviewers listen to people on the left and show them great respect. It's non liberals that they constantly interrupt becasue they don't like what they're saying.
That’s what good interviewers do tho.
Listening to her is like listening to a retellling of my experience of working in academia. I was subjected to so much that was unfair, traumatic, disheartening, and depressing. I became so depressed and anxious that I ended up with a dependence on clonezapam and contemplating suicide. Academia is one of the most toxic environments there is. Jesus. I can so very much empathize with you Melanie.
Jesus loves you and died for you, you a special to Him :)
I think our main problem is that too many British people repeat those fundy religious USA youtubers who call everything lefty, that's in fact mainly promoted by the USA to the rest of the world. In reality, the main left wing policies of socialist countries like most of those in Scandinavia and north Europe, are a free health service and free or cheap university.
Look how more diverse we have become since taking Farage's advice to leave the EU and becme more of a USA lapdog. Farage is an ex Tory banker who needs to keep our economy closely linked with USA banks. It's like the anti EU morons don't realise white people come from Europe.
People in the USA who rant on about lefties also think a socialised health care system or not being $60,000 in debt to go to university are bad ideas. While they don't care a lot of ther money is spend on funding extremist groups to overthrow leaders friendly with Russia, or who don't want to trade oil in Dollars. Such as Afghanistan wasn't extremist until the USA were arming and training them there in the 80s against Russia.
The reason some British people also use the word lefty in that cultural context, despite most of us thinking the NHS is wonderful and seeing anti EU Tories promote cultural liberalism and multiculturalism more than any other political party, is that Britain is also run by the international bankers and our media is owned by them, trying to dumb down society by forcing talentless celebs and trashy Americans in our faces as role models, and trying to encourage everybody to live in greed, debt and a permanent state of war. Such as houses in the USA and Britain are classed as things to buy up and make money from others, than being homes.
It's like how politicians made people think they were being nationalist to leave the EU, to then give us the most diverse government is history. Or how people thought Nigel Farage was right wing, when he only wanted to leave the EU to keep the British economy closely linked to USA banks, encouraging people to live in greed and debt, so he can sell his get rich quick schemes.
Getting people to chant the word lefty, so they support USA capitalism and blame Labour for what USA capitalism causes, is so they keep voting for political parties like Tories who want our culture and economy to be the same as the USA. It's only the USA that has a TV show for the child trans Jazz Jennings, only a USA magazine that made Caitlyn Jenner woman of the year, and now Dylan for the USA sports brand Nike. While the USA say they won't make female gen ital mutilation illegal and many USA women tell them they prefer them to not have a foreskin, so their penis end becomes calloused and less sensitive. USA shouldn't be allowed to call itself a western nation while they make mutilating children preferable.
It's also only USA men who are banned from entering some European countries for making websites encouraging men abuse women while travelling. While all actual left wing countries like Sweden promote are socialised health care and child environmental activists.
So sorry. Glad you're free of that .
I haven't been on the "receiving end" of it but I've seen it as a social science student and social work diploma student. The fields were very politicised.
I left the left when I was 25-26 years old (over 50 today) Much due to the same experience as this brilliant lady.
Why does the Left talk about the Holocaust commited by the capitalists, but no one talks about the MILLIONS of people killed by the Left in China (about 30 millions), in Kambodia (half of the population), in the Soviet Union (about 12 millions)?! The Right HAVE repeat everywhere about the millions killed by the Left.
@@BerlGlickman Because they would be criticising their own side. Think about it.
Oso you make such good bedfellows😁lol. Beware! She'll chew your👂off n then call u an anti semite, even if u r a semite!
@Andy Mann Left did not fought AGAINST Nazism. Left fought FOR their own supremacy. Stalin wanted to conquer Europe.
@Andy Mann Which "ingratitude"? One bloody regime overhelmed another bloody regime. Is Stalin`s or Mao Zedong`s concentration camps better than Hitler`s ?! But in commist`s camps were killed millions of russians and chinese and not european people, like in Hitler`s. Therefore this millions of killed russians and chinese are not bother to modern european Left.
"We accepted lies as Truth" , that says it all really.
@Star Trek Theory Nanu, Nanu!
She's now selling different kinds of lies to the other half of easily manipulated people, like the notion that Corbyn is antisemitic and other zionist fantasies.
People say that they hate liars, the truth is most people love liars. Liars who fit in with the current narrative and don't force them to think.
Sun readers always accept lies as truth.
The guardian write most of them
When she discovered the left wasn't right, she got it right, and left.
Richard Coomer niiiice
Love it!
That’s funny! I’ll have to remember it for later
good stuff
You win the internet today for your cleverness
As the saying goes, if you’re not on the left in your 20’s, you don’t have a heart and if you’re still on the left in you’re 30’s you don’t have a brain.
Winston Churchill I believe? (paraphrase of corse)
And as sayings go, they aren't always true.
Jennifer Holden , no they’re not, but this one is spot on.
@@jenniferholden9397 ,Truth is not at issue, it's an opinion . (widely shared)
Roger Holmes - I think attributed to Churchill, but somewhat older. Late 19th century if I recall.
Wow, I had to go all the way to Britain and listen to a very young interviewer and a mature woman to hear so common sense about the world we now find ourselves in... Well done both of you!
Why does the Left talk about the Holocaust commited by the capitalists, but no one talks about the MILLIONS of people killed by the Left in China (about 30 millions), in Kambodia (half of the population), in the Soviet Union (about 12 millions)?! The Right HAVE repeat everywhere about the millions killed by the Left.
@@BerlGlickman The Holocaust was not committed by Capitalists. It was committed by National SOCIALISTS. The clue is in the name.
I think the main problem with England is we have too many people who repeat all our USA owned media, blaming lefties for everything USA capitalism promotes to Britain, and that's why we're in the mess we're in now. People thought Farage wanted to leave the EU for good of British people, when he's an ex Tory banker who just wants to keep the British economy closely linked with USA banks, encouraging British people to live in a permanent state of greed, debt and war. If people were really aware, they could see that Farage causes mass immigration and diversity with causing us to be more closely linked to the USA, and the USA is the main promoter of a melting pot society to Britain. While the main policies of actual lefty countries such as those in Scandinavia and the rest of north Europe are a free health service.
Nigel Farage resigned as soon as getting people to vote to leave the EU, to leave us out the EU with the most diverse promoting Tory party ever, yet people still say lefty to mean those who promote diversity, when USA capitalism and UK Tories promote diversity more.
UKIP started with the French born James Goldsmith, whose family changed their name to sound British. He wanted to create problems with Britain and the rest of Europe, to keep our economy closely linked with USA banks.
Scotland and the rest of the UK seem to have more sense, as since they have devolution to counteract Tory policies, they have voted in politicians who care about their people, to give them things like free prescriptions and university. While England has diversity and English students could buy a house with the amount of debt they need to repay.
Honestly amazed that this series of fascinating interviews is coming out of the Sun, of all places.
Well done. keep it up.
Yeah me too, I think the sun woke up lol
What part is fascinating? The part where a national newspaper gives a platform to a dangerous far right extremist to promote her bile?
@@ericconan8425 Aah, bless. A leftie calling a Jewish woman a dangerous far right extremist.
You're so touchingly predictable, you people.
@@lostinsweden5039 You just gave yourself away using the term "you people" . No individuals only pawns on the board bringing in utopia.
@@ELee-zv5ud What in the world are you talking about?
From California. Never thought I'd get addicted to a British news outlet... I thought wrong. These interviews are freaking amazing!
Funny thing is just 10yrs ago while I was in highschool, The Sun was famous for topless page 3 girls on its tabloids. Now its one of the few journalism networks that shows alternative views instead of biased one-sided narrative. Seriously did not expect this 😂 😂
She (Phillips) is a powerhouse of knowledge and able to destroy the cultural Marxists narrative like few ever were. Btw we love 45 and pray for our American brothers and sisters. Stay strong and safe!
The young man doing the interviewing is a model of one who permits the person to speak, uninterrupted. It is ALL about her views, not his.
The Sun is trash. Ask the people of Liverpool
@@strictlynorton Cultural marixsm does not exist, it's not real phenomena, it's an antisemitic conspiracy theory. Read an actual book for god's sake.
9:23 "Disagree with someone on the right and he is likely to think you obtuse, wrong, foolish, a dope. Disagree with someone on the left and he is more likely to think of you as selfish, a sell-out, insensitive, possibly evil." - Thomas Sowell
doesn't make sense
@@messianic_scamI don't agree with the statement, but it does make sense
@@messianic_scamit will
This interviewer is so good, he could teach the BBC a thing or two. Melanie Phillips is so eloquent and she was given time by the interviewer, to put her points forward. Well done to the Sun - brilliant!
Stephen Edginton does a very good job in these interviews. He is obviously very bright and well-informed, but he is wise enough not to make the mistake which so many interviewers make, of thinking that his input and opinions are of equal weight and value. He always gives his interviewees ample space to express themselves.
Al Tudy You are right about most interviewers and how Steven Edginton . is a rare exception.
Yes, he lets them give an uninterrupted reply which is wholly theirs and not one that is being led or shouted down by the interviewer. He really does come across as a breath of fresh air and the Sun is to be commended for choosing him to do these interviews.
Exactly. That's why I switched off my TV and the shrill mainstream media a year ago and now only use social media to watch good interviewers like this who know how to ask the questions then sit back and listen, not drown out the interviewee trying to answer!
He's one of the best interviewers in the UK
@@nigelmaund9057 You can also add the U.S.
I too walked away from the left, for much the same reasons as Melanie Phillips, so all this rings very true to me. I appreciate Melanie's honesty and Steven's skills as an interviewer, but I do wish the Sun had had the courage to tell the truth about Tommy Robinson's arrest at Center Parcs, when protecting his 8 year old daughter from a sexual predator.
People are saying he was set up
Denise G- Hill I suspect that the police are the ones who have set themselves up
Tommy Robinson has become the "straw man" of left wing hatred to a degree that even, otherwise, sensible anti-globalist, anti-mass immigration voices, like Nigel Farage, feel compelled to distance themselves from him. It is a shame because I admire both men. Whether Nigel Farage has been misinformed or is simply playing a tactical political game to shield himself and his own cause from excessive vitriol I do not know. But what Tommy Robinson is being subjected to, from all sides, is supremely unjust.
welcome to the other side, you can have your own thoughts your own opinions and your own view of others. on this side we look after one and other. it's a pleasure to receive you. 🤝
It might be part of a natural cycle on the road of ignorance to wisdom, from being young getting older. Socialism and communism do everything to break the cycle.
This has aged so well. The recent events in the USA have proven everything she said.
It says a lot about the Guardian.
@@Rayblondie This is every MSM in America. How is it in UK?
This woman is brilliant. Amazing interview. Really well put and truly an eye-opener.
What's so brilliant about being dead wrong most of your life .... save our best praise for those who have fought for freedom all their lives .... and those who lost their lives in the struggle ?
She certainly is!! Can I use the term "she"? Only joking!!
Lincoln Applegate Hahn It may not be “brilliant” in the sense you suggest, but for folks in this world find so incredibly important about what she had to say is the journey that brought her into the light of RIGHT or in other words, CORRECT thinking!
She speaks well, but shows gaps of recent European history. A foundation however necessary, to understand that it was the unchained capitalism and the globalisation (colonisation) at its hight that lead to to the two world wars, and with W. Churchill would have ended straight into the 3rd world war, if the wise people of the UK, who were tired of wars, had not voted him off. The reason why is everything is going haywire once again is because the capitalist system has become unchained again, no rules and no laws for the big banks and conglomerates. The left has become squashed and infiltrated by people talking left (with social conscience) but acting right (neoliberal, the law if the fittest, individualism, “everyone makes their own luck”)
HERE,HERE,WELL SAID!
Melanie Phillips has my total respect. I too have made the journey from leftism to sanity. I wish I could express myself half a well as Melanie
Lol she was always right winger
@@tyrionlannister6459 My guess is that you do not know what you are talking about, just a troll.
Hello Peter. The world needs people like us to help red pill our friends back to sanity. Please do not underestimate yourself and your abilities to do well in this world that desperately needs us as "educators". BTW, I think that, in three short sentences, you expressed yourself elegantly well!
Clarify by what 'you' mean by leftism? Thank you.
@@gherriman5945 well it takes one troll to recognise another - congratulations
this lady is an example of someone who has gone from being woke to being awake.
Beautifully said.
this is a rat jumping ship. make no mistake
Oh i love how you put that 👍
Or as some say: "I didn't leave the Left, the Left left me"
@@romeisfallingagain Not in this case, she was ahead of the curve.
Great interview...The host has the courage to allow his interviewee to state her case without constant interruptions! Great Job!
Smart person! I love her grasp on & understanding of equality. She covers a LOT of ground. 😇❤✌
Someone I know went mental when I mentioned Melanie Phillips.
He accused me of spreading hate speech and joining a far right cult. I have to add that he used to work at the BBC.
So easy to trigger the leftists these days. They respond with hysteria because the truth is not on their side.
She is quite rational, bright and off center about some things, but otherwise quite reasonable.
she's an odious Zio stooge...eos
did 'they' ask you for a lethal injection to end his misery .. aw .. hate to think of 'them' suffering so..
Thaifoonthaiger good for you for speaking up . Even if these dogmatics can’t understand or don’t want to hear it .
Steven Edginton is one of the most promising, well prepared and respectful interviewers around.
I am afraid I disagree completely, but it is certainly fair to say that he does not interupt the interviewee.
crazyclive is the appropiate nick.
@crazyclive I don't want to know. Thanks.
Jan Geerling Love him! He’s truly “old school” in his journalistic style and what ALL journalists once were. Maybe one of his parents, grandparents or other close mentors were or are journalists? Either way, he’s a breath of fresh air.
@@funDAYsmiling Meanwhile - a real journalist languishes in Belmarsh
Brilliant interview!
Bless you Mrs. Melanie Phillips. You've given me a whole new perspective and understanding of what's been going on with western culture. Godspeed.
A woman after my own heart. This lady is so refreshing, she reassures me that my thinking is correct, and losing friends over it is sadly par for the course !!
To be maligned by the odious Guardian is a badge of honour.
The Guardian are a bunch of middle-class hand-wringing liberal hypocrites
you're being played...by the usual suspects...
Just like the Labour Party, The Guardian- once The Manchester Guardian- used to be for the working classes, not a bunch of self flagellating middling class hypocrites. The Labour Party leadership is now decided by a bunch of cozy metro-bots- a permanent job in opposition- good pay zero responsibilities. The people they were meant to represent have been screwed over by people who carry The Guardian like it's a passport for the stupid.
I believe the bible and know Jesus Christ is the savour of the world.
Nigel Rushby they are not liberal because they do not walk the liberal walk they just want to impose their views on others and if you don’t agree with them they shout you down
This interviewer is doing a fabulous job, he asks open questions and then listens to the responses without interjecting his own views and beliefs. A lot of fact based truth has been stated in this interview rather than just personal opinion and I am impressed by the way that she has defined the modern political landscape so perfectly. This is purely my opinion by the way 😀
You people are so dumb. This is like a celebrity interview - not a discussion. This basically a long form version of late night television where he kisses her ass and then she flogs her book. Not once did he challenge her.
I had exactly the same impression of the young man. What a pleasure and a relief.
I’m not a huge fan of the Sun but yes he is an excellent interviewer.
Often you get those who say the word lefty as an insult towards promotion of trans kids and multiculturalism, but the main country that promote trans kids is from capitalist USA. How much does China promote trans kids and a melting pot society compared to the USA? How many transgender children are there in Communist or ex Communist and left wing countries compared to capitalist countries?
I think British people should be careful about getting too involved with those USA. extreme religious, misogynist youtubers, just because they have lots of subscribers, as they might use the anti trans message to get views, but they don't have much else in common with confident, intelligent, European women. When Americans and sometimes others rant on about lefties, it's as if they don't realise they're talking about USA capitalism. I looked into what they say those things promote, and all of it goes back to the USA. One of the things was an internet talk of child transsexuals, and they said the left cause it. Yet most of the cases where children are encouraged to change gender are in the USA.
Those people who join in with USA, misogynist youtubers, also don't seem to realise the National Health Service is a lefty idea, and Americans who insult the left wing also insult the NHS and free university that most of north Europe and Scandinavia have..
Most of the time, most socialist countries such as those in Scandinavia and other north European culture countries, main left wing policies are a free health service or free and cheap university. While the USA promotes transgender children, child male genital mutilation, a melting pot nation and liberal gender ideas to them. Denmark ban child male genital mutilation, while the USA encourages it, and Denmark is a lefty nation. It's the USA that has lots of angry men who spend a lot of time online trying to take out their issues on women.
Melanie one of our great thinkers of our time along with David Starky, Douglass Murry, Jordan Peterson etc.
Maybe, but she still peddles some of her own biases. She puts the Catholic Church in a bad light. The inquisition was a very minor affair but here she seens to put it at the top of her evil list. Maybe she should look a bit closer to home.
I don’t think you can quite put her up in the same league with those three figures. She’s smart, sure, and has a lot of hands on battle experience with woketards, but she often wanders off on flights of imagination that are outside her realm of expertise - something those three specific chappies would never do.
It's because she can think that she left the left, the question is why was she was unthinking enough to go there in the first place.
"great thinkers of our time along with David Starky, Douglass Murry, Jordan Peterson". Are you having a laugh? Snake oil salesmen, every one.
Chris Abraham Dr. Peterson is dreadfully ill, I believe. His daughter interviewed him as he was recovering from one serious problem combined with his wife ´s cancer.
This was a great interview with Melanie Phillips. It was very informative and enlightening 🤔
Very well articulated and enthralling in a very calm manner. I hope she gets more air-time.
COME ON---NOT NOW SHE WON'T. EXCEPT, FOR 'PETER WHITTLES' ''SO WHAT YOUR SAYING IS''. ON YT
Lee Mitchell she can be a bit smug and abrasive like her husband but she is old school liberal and all the better for that
FANTASTIC - WE ALL LEFT THE GUARDIAN A LONG TIME AGO - FAKE NEWS.
terrible interviewer, kept interrupting.
Compare her to the shrill , foul mouthed harpies on the left dominating talk shows everywhere.
Another great interview!
Twenty years ago I would never have believed it if I was told the Sun would be one of the final bastions of free speech and a shining light in authentic journalism. Thank you.
It's just sensing the sea change. their coverage of dankula was a poor show. I would be interested to hear melanies position on that video.
ME TOO - ALMOST SPEECHLESS! WELL DONE THE SUN!
@@turtleflipper9935 Agreed. I can see the paper/website still floundering and bashing out the usual fare but the interviews here are excellent. The mainstream-media side of their organisation needs to learn from the attitude here.
The SUN being a bastion of Free Speech is simply staggering!! But it appears to be the case!
The sun should of been closed down years ago. They create there own stories by manipulated the truth in to a pack of lies just to sell papers.
The page 3 girls were moslty under 16. sam fox probably the most famous of them was 13 and topless on page 3. If they dont put the age of the girls its cause they r underage.
As an American let it be said, I love this lady!
Messianic fkrs
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right,
but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2
Silly misrepresentation of meaning.
Be a fool, then. I don't care! It's your choice.
When the Bible says right left it simply means right or wrong. It isn’t being political. And the modern political useage was hundreds of years later anyhow. No connection.
these three answers below haven't got it...have they? :-p
@@blancaroca8786 correct, but it just so happened that the left is wrong.(in almost all they think and behave) I'm so glad it looks like she, Melanie Phillips, has turned around in some of her thinking..
It’s no longer Right and Left. Today it’s Realist and Fantasist - priceless and so - so true.
It's common sense against lunacy
@@templeofdoom4445 you could say facts vs feels
Or those who support permanent global wars, and those who don't.....
@@acohen1980 mmmm no, not even close. Both political sides love war, look how the Americans are, the left are even bigger warmongers then the right.
Ariel Cohen who is supporting global wars exactly? I know a war I would support, and that would be against the Chinese Communist Party, they need to be overthrown. 😁😁😁😘
We really need to do something about the dominance of extreme Left ideology in the education system.
Geoff Halsey It means building new schools ,universities and media outlets. That's how Thatcher's era came about, new institutions and think tanks to provide a different perspective.
the chance is coming soon, the college profs will be doing distance learning which means all of their lectures will be online for all to see/debunk,, if they are not telling the truth they will lose their jobs i think.
@oyinbo peppe call her out. Shame her.
Yes and Yes!!!
Absolutely correct. And what of the Guardian? Extremely kooky.
a very compelling voice of reason in a world of utter madness
Why does the Left talk about the Holocaust commited by the capitalists, but no one talks about the MILLIONS of people killed by the Left in China (about 30 millions), in Kambodia (half of the population), in the Soviet Union (about 12 millions)?! The Right MUST repeat everywhere about the millions killed by the Left.
@@BerlGlickman When it comes to authoritarian regimes, what they call themselves --- in particular whether they pretend to be left-wing or right-wing --- is practically irrelevant. The DPRK is not democratic; neither it nor the PRC is for the people.
A lie might fool you for a moment but with uncertainty in your mind..
You know truth when you hear it and all doubts are removed..
This lady speaks the truth
This woman is a homophobe. You are a moron.
@@mbriancohen Who would be driven to hate (which is meant more than fear) gays?
@@therespectedlex9794 Are you joking? How old are you?
@@mbriancohen 40 next Saturday. Why am I joking? You could try being rational yourself.
@@therespectedlex9794 I assumed you were much younger because anyone that old would surely remember a time when most folks were homophobic and, in fact, performing homosexual acts was illegal in certain states.
You DO remember this, right?
It comes to something when 'The Sun' is doing top notch interviews. Well done them.
"No uterus no right to an opinion." Guardian thinks so, BBC thinks so, Melanie does NOT think so-- hurrah! Mazel tov.
Except anyone identifying as 'trans'.....but best be quiet about the lack of uterus. Ssssshhhh!
Where were you when people with uterus were chattels and without any human rights? Still the case in many cultures. So boo bloody hoo to you.
When you draw flak you know you're over the target - as she has well found out.
lets raise a toast to our balls. They DO have a right to an opinion. Mazel tov!
Are you another Zionist?
Beautifully expressed. I just have to spread this around. Thank you so much for getting this voice out.
I watched it on 4th July after Corona, BLM mob and so on.
I'm glad to come cross this wonderful interview.
me too from Tokyo!
Television is so boring I've replaced watching it with watching CZcams videos. I'm so glad I found this one. It's been very informative.
allisgran YES! I almost never watch tv anymore. Mainstream media and Hollywood are all for Kamala Harris but intelligent leaders both white and not white, on the right and the left, dislike Kamala Kameleon. Nobody who is anybody respects her. She had 2% in the polls as a candidate when she quit but she´s going to become POTUS as soon as Biden is not able to serve.
“I didn’t leave the Democratic party, the Democratic Party left me.”
― Ronald Reagan
No way; Really?
@Charles Hawtrey and the Deaf Aids -Joe Biden
reagan was the worst guy ever. very extremely right wing
@@elizabethbennet4791 Then you must be extremely left wing because that's not according to any objective mapping of Reagan's political positions. Maybe he disliked Communism too much for your taste.
@@1111Tactical there IS no "objective" in politics. trust me. research more.
We're all far-right now, Melanie!
It doesn't take genius to see what is good for us and what is harmful. We had to hit rock-bottom to wake up and return to common sense. Marxism went too far!
Why are you speaking on behalf of ppl you don't know?
I'm exhausted by all these labels..I don't fit into a particular silo despite the "system's" need to define me and my ever evolving opinions.
Amen
Yeah that's right, apparently were all right wing!!!.
Found this really interesting, I could never fathom lefty thinking, but now at least understand the process that makes them so lost.
Mark Stanton
Whoa! "lefty thinking"? - you have just come up with an oxymoron even better than 'American intelligence'.
Search for Helen Pluckrose or James Lindsay. No one better lays this out. Although this interview was is spot on too.
It is the pain of disillusionment.
This is one smart woman, I'm glad it has this many views. Love these interviews.
"talk about your journey from left to right"
"I prefer to think of it as a journey from fantasy to reality"
And yet numerous studies show the clear correlation between low academic achievement and right-wing beliefs, and vice versa.
@@spinach-colour-joey6776 Self Pretentious Idiots feel the need to "educate" themselves in social "sciences" to assuage their fears or butress their perversions. That is the only difference by and large. The right believes in teaching yourself via reading etc and balancing their bank statement. Getting a useless degree is anathema to this position to quite a few unless you are getting a science/business degree of some sort. Engineers/science majors etc all vote majority right. Says everything you need to know. Social morons getting degrees which pay nothing? All majority vote left.
@@spinach-colour-joey6776 hmmmm so you're saying there's a study saying that the educational system rewards people with more left leaning beliefs? Sounds about right...
@@spinach-colour-joey6776 Interesting as most left wing beliefs come from B Grade university lecturers.
spinach-colour-Joey As Benjamin Disraeli said, “Not all conservative people are stupid, but all stupid people are conservative.” Of course, stupidity is not exclusive to any political ideology, but if one is not too bright (or not in possession of accurate factual information , aka “ignoramus”), the new and unfamiliar can be confusing and threatening, making the conservative position the safer bet (“don’t fix what ain’t broken”) than trusting that one’s own status won’t take a dive after some proposed reordering of society.
Kudos to both for managing such a level of discussion despite the background noise!
Very interesting.
Wow, great job Sun! ☀️ This woman deftly explains moral relativism, and everything else. She is brilliant. Subscribed!
Another amazing interview. I love Steven’s interview techniques. He asks an open question to start with allowing this highly intelligent, informed and interesting interviewee to enlighten the listener. If this was MSM the interviewer would be trying to compete against this woman - which would be futile taken her level of knowledge - just to promote their own importance (in their eyes) and relevance.
“Not being taught to read, but were being told they could read...” *Palm to head* since she is right and even here in the U.S., what is accepted as literacy among adults is hideous!
Monsieur P. I got my first dose of that junior year of high school (1984), I took a general class (usu not a choice on what class you cd take-leveled without input so I was sheltered) during that class we read aloud from the text, a good portion of the class actually read like second graders. I was shocked to learn the schools would actually pass and graduate students in this condition as if that were normal operating standards.
You only have to look at any social media to see the truth in this..... could of told you it were there education wot did it.....what we took for granted has been thrown away by these liberals along with any respect for our history, sense of social responsibility and discipline. Did our parents say the same thing, or were they proud of our education and that if you worked hard you could achieve something. Better stop now wouldn’t want to offend a snowflake.
Spelling, and even grammar, stopped mattering, as long as they could 'understand' you.
@@ceecee6679 Kids in schools now are ''warehoused''-schools are glorified babysitters-the ones who really want to learn have to put up with constant disruptions, with teacher's attention being taken up by very slow students, or those with behavioral problems, who have been ''mainstreamed'.'' So, no one learns much. Years ago-40-50, to be exact, they were much more realistic. Some kids were in ''college prep'' type classes, some were in regular classes, with some going for apprenticeships. Now it's so bad, the kids who go to trade school will have much more secure jobs than those who ''majored'' in ''women's studies'' or ''transgender studies'' or similar nonsense.
This was a very, very good interview.
If you're brain dead.
@@anthonybrett Just saying if you think this is insightful or profound you're probably not very bright
Brett Anthony You know that! Melanie wipes the floor with the lot of them.
@@fratertaciturnus4356 That's just the type of thing a not very bright person would say.
@@danhatcher7455 ya got me
Thanks for sharing this interview. Awesome to see our brothers and sisters in the UK waking up to what the left is doing to their country.
We have the same problem here in the US.
Keep pushing back. God bless you all.
I think British people should be careful about getting too involved with those USA. extreme religious, misogynist youtubers, just because they have lots of subscribers, as they might use the anti trans message to get views, but they don't have much else in common with confident, intelligent, European women. When Americans and sometimes others rant on about lefties, it's as if they don't realise they're talking about USA capitalism. I looked into what they say those things promote, and all of it goes back to the USA. One of the things was an internet talk of child transsexuals, and they said the left cause it. Yet most of the cases where children are encouraged to change gender are in the USA.
Often you get those who say the word lefty as an insult towards multiculturalism. Yet how multicultural is Communist China compared to the USA? How multicultural is ex Communist east Europe compared to the USA? How many transgender children are there in Communist or ex Communist and left wing countries compared to capitalist countries?
USA prides itself on being a melting pot culture. Those people who join in with USA, misogynist youtubers, also don't seem to realise the National Health Service is a lefty idea, and Americans who insult the left wing also insult the NHS and free university that most of north Europe and Scandinavia have..
Most of the time, most socialist countries such as those in Scandinavia and other north European culture countries, main left wing policies are a free health service or free and cheap university. While the USA promotes transgender children, child male genital mutilation, a melting pot nation and liberal gender ideas to them. Denmark ban child male genital mutilation, while the USA encourages it, and Denmark is a lefty nation. Which causes some USA males to grow up angry and spending a lot of their time online, taking their issues out on women.
Melanie is brilliant. I've followed her articles in the Times for a few years now and I have the utmost admiration for her insight and the clarity she brings to every debate and interview.
This young man is not very charismatic but he knows how to ask great questions and remain silent and get deep insightful answers from his guests. Brilliant!
He's not the star, he knows this and while very young is secure enough not to need to show off by asking 'clever' questions.
@@monsieurlewop He does, in fact, do what interviewers should do... ask questions and listen to the answers. So many others don't do that.
Steven has forsworn the “gotcha” questioning technique that makes other interview shows so odious.
For this role, he chooses to let his interviewees speak, so I don't think it's fair to judge that "he is not very charismatic".
I agree that he asks great questions and that the interview is "brilliant".
When I had my kids I wanted them to be healthy,happy, decent people who never read the Guardian. Result!!
This interview was so good I might watch it twice.
"she holds views that you wouldn't expect from someone who worked at the guardian". Beautifully sums up the problem with modern journalism in one sentence
They're not called the loony lefty's for nothing..
Bill Barnden originality that’s what I like.
They’re more like the righteous right than actual left leaning liberals
If the right for centuries hadn't been so selfish.
One of the best interviews I’ve ever watched about life.
An intelligent Woman. And there are more of us, infinitely more, who think like this lady does and we are sick and tired of the nonsense we are having forced upon us.
Another thoroughly engaging interview. Your channel goes from strength to strength Mr Edginton - thank you!
The song "Imagine" could sum up the entire Left/globalist philosophy.
that song makes me want to mount the pavement.
@@SuperUnbeliever Lennon was a great man and that song was voted one of the greatest songs ever written don't try to make it a left or right political thing.
@@georgegeorgio1751 ha ha example confirmation
Used to like that song until I figured it out
@@glennseaward3050 Confirmation of what? Of your struggle against reality?
The line she crossed was that of group think. No space for individual thoughts on the left.
leon landowski quite right, nor are they prepared to talk about it. Fascism by any other name.
Not like this echo-chamber at all...
Don't trust her. Look into her history. She stinks.
@@Useaname Oh gosh, a nasty person. OK, got it, we mustn't read what she says. Right, ears muffled - OK? Not sure though who Smirk Bigly is ... does he "stink" ... his opinions would so suggest ?
@@tonyves I tried finding something funny or even interesting in your comment, but I couldn't.
Thank you. I really enjoyed this interview!
C.S. Lewis wrote about what she's talking about, subjective reality, relativism in morality, etc., many years ago in "The Abolition of Man".
And Chesterton.
I think she does a wonderful job of explaining the destruction of UK Christianity. Those that have ears to hear
Perhaps, but I am not a believer, more a Humanist & much of what she says strikes a chord with me....
I think she hugely misrepresents non-believers. This is a error of correlation and causation. Yeah, typically the far left are non-believers. But there's a hell of a lot of people (like any Objectivist) who are non-believers and don't go with this post-modernist socalist agenda AT ALL. The far left are a minority if you ask me. Certainly 99% of the non-religious I know think the new left is a joke. Which is why in any poll whatsoever they get whipped even though non-belief is on the rise.
In short: If ALL THE SIDES could stop trying to categorise people based on a single characteristic that'd be great.
@@hjd832 The destruction of Christianity by leftists doesn't require you're a believer. She is trying to impart data. If I liker her or dislike her it's my obligation to accept data.
Good because clinging to ancient fables is backward
@@Rickyroo1980 Your Communist trash is the worst doctrine to come out of modern thought.
An excellent interview!
And once again, congratulations to Mr Edginton for his restraint and focus. Oh, I wish more of the left's luvvies on the BBC and most other channels would learn a thing or two from him about how interviews should be conducted.
Martin Adams hoist with her own petard I think. Israel is the victim once more. It just happens to be that the reality is it is Palestinian kids who are under military law, have their limbs shot off , butterfly bullets blowing there brains out and mother in Jenin shot dead while preparing baby formula.
Really enjoy your interviews, Steven! Fantastic, interesting guests :) Vital subjects.
Thank you for a most brilliant(!) EYE OPENING(!) interview!!!!
Watch the first interview she does with John Anderson (just search Melanie Phillips John Anderson and it's 'interview #1') - even better in my opinion, but more focused on the philosophies behind postmodernism and the hatred of the nation state.
@@cecilcharlesofficial Thank you!
Great comments. Let's hope that there is a way back from where we find ourselves, I'm not 100% sure.
shud da heal up Trump tard.
@@MrHispanicpride How dense can a brick like yourself be? Ahhahahah
No. We are doomed!
Absolutely incredible interview. I have been speaking this truth for 30 years. She says it much better than me. Brilliant 🙏🏻
Great interview. Thanks for posting.
A brave woman!!!! We must protect these women at all costs.
lol
I’ve always avoided The Sun newspaper - but this series of political interviews is simply outstanding (and Melanie is spot on about the Guardian, which has evolved into a barmy disjointed elitist clap-trap ridden rag)
Steve Bryce AGREE
don't forget when University Challenge pitted the tabloids against the Broadsheets in a derby .. .. remember which won.. ?
I always thought the Sun was about page three half naked women and yet you get this gold coming from them?
I feel I need to play that first 12 minutes to nearly everyone I know!
She’s not saying anything real. . She knows her tribe are reason for white genocide. All media her millions to cry and whine. Victimhood.
@@sueyu3603 she couldn't have explained it more succinctly
Yes it was so interesting to learn that ww2 "followed the "hollocawst". I didn't know that !
Melanie's first 13 minutes or so were quite stellar here. I feel that she really ought to get out on the lecture circuit with the likes of Jordan Peterson and E. Michael Jones. It's thinkers such as these who can really make strides towards turning things around; they need to make their voices heard, and Ms. Phillips articulated the postmodernist hegemonic hold over our world very, very clearly.
Please save us from another Jordan Peterson!
what a honest and fair interview of an amazing woman, shining with intelligence and honesty !
Who needs to stockpile on toilet roll when we have the Guardian
Wouldn’t want to give them the money.
Paul Taylor. Sorry, Paul, it's too abrasive!
@@mikdavies5027 lol
i wouldnt wipe my arse wiv it
Less painful than reading it.
Funny how she’s spot on about double standards in reporting on Israel and any other place...
I found that part very very interesting, because up until now i couldn't fathom how they justify keeping it up.
s@Aspiring Pyramidbuilder oh so you think israel gets all the condemnation because people just disagree about it being a "beacon" of freedom and democracy? nonsense. Most of the condemnations israel gets don't even mention freedom and democracy. (and that's because Israel is very free and democratic). And morally you want to give a pass to countries that behave abominably because what? they don't claim to be beacons of freedom and democracy. Your moral compass is non-existent. And if your ridiculous claim were true then why don't people like you say "israel please don't claim you are a "beacon" of freedom and democracy, and then all the condemnation would just vanish". You're just not a serious person. And you fool yourself.
@@boliussa " because Israel is very free and democratic" yeah right !!!. About the state that illegally occupies and brutalizes and runs the present day apartheid.
@@steinadleradler3431 I tend to hold Melanie's opinions on most things but.... What I find is if you engage someone with a politically Right leaning on the actual right of Israel to exist, they become just as I intransigent as the so called Liberal Left. I get accused of being anti-Semite, Libtard etc, even though I'm a Brexit voting, Right of centre Conservative! So I will still carry on calling out the likes of Phillips, Maher, Sugar et al until someone can explain to me how, Britain and America came to divide up Palestine, evict a populace and install a new State.
@Aspiring Pyramidbuilder Nope, you can't show where anything I wrote was gibberish, because it wasn't, "gibberish" is a term you use to hide that either a)you know I refuted you and you are not honest enough to admit it Or, b) what I wrote to refute you went way over your head. If you were honest, you would be able to quote me and show where you think it doesn't make sense. You can't do that, Looks to me that a)you're not honest and b) it went over your head.
An excellent explanation of how we got to where we are, the best I have heard to date.
I always liked it when Melanie was on bbc question time , she was always by far the most intelligent person on the panel
I like how this interview uses "the left" and "the Guardian" more or less interchangeably...
The BBC and Channel 4 are also part of the conspiracy.
@pete smyth As someone who identifies as pretty left, I dislike the Guardian. Many of us do.
I think Mel at least here avoids terms like Christian, Muslim, atheist & secular to her cost. Christians value highly the Old Testament. Secularism does not, and atheists actively hate the OT. That in itself is partly why anti semitism is more widespread on the secular left, because the older parts of the Bible are Jewish books, the most important Jewish books..
I don't know who this woman is, but I could listen to her all day long.
You're nuts.
Beede Bawng I agree!
Amazing stuff! People need to wake up! We are living in a time when what we have been taught as truth are actually lies, and what we've been told are lies is actually the Truth!
Jennifer Vega that I totally agree with that! I read your comment in my notifications and wasn’t going to respond but the statement you made is truer than you know!
Unfortunately she isn’t telling the whole truth that’s the thing.
She talked about Zionism as being race hate and anti-Jewish!
Zionism isn’t anything remotely to do with anti-Jewish sentiments it’s political based in extreme right wing ethics through and through. And don’t have to be Jewish to be a Zionist! And unfortunately the Israeli government like most of the worlds governments are dirty, and corrupt with blood on their hands! This woman is out of touch! Either that or she’s playing up to the narrative!!!
@@djdefk2 The topic of Zionism isn't the only thing you took from her interview, is it?
Wonderful interview. Thank you.
Another brilliant interview by this young man. He is respectful, polite and allows the interviewee to answer the questions without the need to speak over them or interrupt. It is always a pleasure to listen to these interviews.
Steven Edgington is probably one of the best interviewers around.
He asks pertinent questions, then allows the interviewee to actually answer without irrelevant interruptions.
The time to challenge an interviewee's answer is when they've given it, not by interrupting & thus removing context.
Love this lady. Very intelligent. She figured it out.
Figured what out? That she doesn’t want to be around people who rightfully criticize Israel even when they don’t get anything else right?
she's on her way out
@@SugarRayValentine out to where?
@@adaeze861 of life she's old af
Ozymandias i am 86 and not on my way out! You have a problem with Jews?
brilliant interview!
Thank you for posting this
That 50 minutes flew by! Fascinating interview.
I'm nearly 50. I learnt a lot from this. Also interviewer very professional.
I am 83 Tony, and learned a lot too. Excellent interviewee, I mean she was very interesting throughout. The interviewer, as you say was very professional and let her speak without interruption. A few of the BBC's interviewers could learn a thing or two from him.
Steve Edgington - thank you for this riveting interview. It really encapsulates what it has been like for me growing up in the most breathtakingly clear way.
I am only 12:14 into the interview. I thought this mixture of cogency, memory, cultural awareness, analytic capacity, historical knowledge, etc... had forever left the shores of Middle-Earth never to return. I think british people should name her Prime Minister at once, or let some other western country adopt her for its own good.
Agreed!
Oops! I started this video to have something interesting playing in the background while I got my work done and found it so compelling I watched the whole thing with singular focus. Damn you! (Shakes fist at cloud.)
Amazing, will definitely read both publications Meanie. It was a pleasure listening to this interview and very enlightening.
What a brilliant breakdown and explanation of how we got here.
Thank you Melanie and Steven for an intelligent and courageous interview. I learned a lot and hope to see and hear more from both of you.
I do love it when former leftists wake up and actually see what has happened.
Doesn't happen very often though....
ha haha ha...she's a Zio stooge...
It is denial like smoking cigarettes. Once you realize that you are in denial then quitting is just a matter of seconds. It is called the "Piglosi Vodka Hate Disease" or Demotardism
I don't really believe there is a left or right. I would, for example, agree the Bible is incorrect in its statement about God, if God even exists. However, that doesn't detract from the idea that it contains thousands of years of trial in error in what is moral and what works. That would make the typical person think I'm probably left, if they are on the "right", and would make the typical person think I'm on the right if they are on the "left".
It's not left and right, it's correct and incorrect. It's easy to dismiss an idea simply because it's in a flawed ideology - but all ideologies are flawed. I think once you understand that you can take each idea and concept on its own and whatever is congruent and works together, that's the START of a working system, but I'm not at all certain you have have an entirely coherent ideology that is completely factual. Nobody has found it yet, and it's not like people haven't been trying to build one for all of time - certainly people more intelligent and educated than I have attempted it, and failed.
@@fuzzywzhe
Your assertion that the bible "contains thousands of years of trial in error in what is moral and what works" is incorrect.
Even if I accepted your assertion, for arguments sake, the bible was plagiarised from many beliefs including the Torah with the new testament being written in the first century. So even if the bible was a moral guide it is a moral guide to the first century at best.
You will find that morality is based in empathy and evolves with society totally independently of any supernatural influence. In it's purest essence morality is just the subtleties that help humans to trade and live communally.
Wow! This women is super interesting and amazing. Bravo Melanie. Well done Sun.
Nice to see an interviewer letting a subject answer questions fully and explain context and experience on how views are formed.
this is a great interview. Joe Rogan should bring her on, i'd love to hear more from her
Terminal Insanity I was thinking the same
Rogan is bought & paid for, he's the left's Alex Jones, Think about the stuff that only he can get away with, drug use, open drug promotion, If Jammi wasn't there, to cover his 6, you would see the real Joey boy.
@@paule1983 But that's just one thing they could differ on. It would be good to for the interview to take place. He doesn't seem 2021 woke left. There are an umbrella of people who identify with liberal ideology. LOL But it's true. people need to be honest, i think we are all craving regular people being honest. Most people are closer to the middle, in that they are willing to be wrong, and aware of reality.