Peter Hitchens: It's 'frustrating' knowing that everyone else is wrong
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- “People don’t even know where their ideas come from...I do, and it’s really frustrating to sit on the edge of it saying, look, you’re quite wrong, don’t be ridiculous.”
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Oh it's not discontent in this country it's damn right anger.
SHOW IT ...nothing ever gets done by talking...
I think it's downright ;)
@@anneloving8405
I'm going to write a sternly worded letter to my local MP!
yeah, it would seem, only london exists and has a right to exist. our leaders have broken the unwritten social contract, live by the ten commandments and the golden rule, light your torches, sharpen your pitchforks.
That's called incitement. I'd be very careful if I were you.@@anneloving8405
Politics in the UK are at the bottom of the barrel and are clawing at it to see if it can sink even lower . The worst bunch of Politicians (with a few exceptions ) in the whole of British history . To call them dire and useless is giving them compliments they don't deserve .
It is called a “ Kakistocracy”
@@williamjohnston4666 its a third world democracy! of the banana kind
@@knoxyish “ Democracy” is pushing it a bit. But at least we have gained a little bit of self government back by leaving the EU. Now we just need to get rid of the clowns that the real rulers put in place for us to choose from.
Exactly so. Murdoch and the BBC have been brainwashing us for decades
Who or what are the GB Elites beholden to? Who must not be criticised? Who is above the law?
As an older person, who works hard, is English, family has been here for over 1,000 years, etc - I am definitely not represented by this country's politicians
sure. whatever you say lol
nobody can trace their ancestry reliably for more than 150 years; everybody is a mongrel; every other conclusion is mere fiction
Only the cabal are.
@@raidermaxx2324
Lol?
Declining standards.
It is not a stretch to say that NO western country right now has anywhere near a representative government that is legitimately, seriously interested in acting on behalf of the interests of the public.
Donors win elections these days, not voters.
The public determine results, not donors. The public perpetually bemoan and deride the British political system (and its leaders) yet decide to vote and re-elect them anyway. There is collective responsibility here
@@jakemorj5498 No there isn't.
Amen.
@@jakemorj5498 Voting is just an illusion of having control over who is elected. The result is rigged in favour of the global cabal in all western countries.The citizens have no influence in reality..
I have worked in organisations where the people at the top had no connection with the rest of us and were merely time servers, making the most of their privileges and furthering their careers while contributing nothing at all of value. Everyone knew that if they disappeared overnight, the organisation would carry on running exactly the same without them. This is what Britain feels like now.
True, many managers at different business levels are lazy and oblivious to their staff's technical needs. Having worked in various tech system setups, I've encountered numerous clueless individuals, some with an Etonian background, who lack a clue about their oversight. Their consistent attitude of passive-aggressive disdain fosters obedience but hinders effective leadership.
Same in NHS where I worked as health professional
Me thinketh so sad to hear the upper crust not being., kissed on the cheek or pat on the back for putting in a..........good days work!@?😜😝🤪🤑
You are describing every single area of NHS
That IS the best case scenario. the worst is when they interfere with and confuse the tasks at hand, employ or fire executives who may not agree with them but DID have some knowledge, and generally muddle and overspend and prosecute some disjointed version of their reality, until they leave for the next job, with a shining CV and no apparent consequence for their harm. The last example insisted on the rollout of Microsoft tech across the organisation for almost every IT project, and as they all collapsed or went massively overbudget he left for his new job..... at Microsoft.
"How do you rate political debate?"
"It's pitiful."
Understatement at its finest.
And largely so thanks to the work of the likes of the Times, dumbing down and knowingly presenting falsehood in order to dampen both debate at the top and political engagement in the wider public.
Really? I would of thought "it's irrelevant" would of been much more accurate.
Well, it is owned by Murdoch, so...@@leftgrrl
I'd be interested to know Peters opnion of Ben Habib.
@@leftgrrlYou're thinking of The Mail.
Both the Labour and Cons are cheeks of the same backside !
HOW POLITE
And it deserves a spanking
Wings of the same bird.
@@rickdewhirst5474Expert Lickers and back scratchers .
As the late great BILL HICKS once stated " I think the puppet on right shares my beliefs, i think the puppet on the left is more to my liking.......HEY WAIT A MINUTE, theres one guy holding up both puppets!!!!! SHUT UP AND GO BACK TO BED AMERICA, heres american gladiators, heres 57 f*cking CHANNELS OF IT!!!!!!!🤣😂🥵😍😛🤢😢🤬😈👿💀☠💩
the establishment has to be discarded so that we at the very least have any chance to prosper
our leaders have broken the unwritten social contract, live by the ten commandments and the golden rule, light your torches, sharpen your pitchforks.,.
@@AnneRitchie-po6rb or we could simply collectively organize and apply our freedom of choice when buying goods and services to make strategic changes... sooner rather than later, before that ability is taken from us because the monopolizing of goods and services is speeding up rather fast.
When I was about 17 I wrote a couple of emails to Peter Hitchens and he replied at length. It was nice of him to take time to engage with a know-it-all teenage boy!
You were groomed, mate.
now you are a know it all adult much like him. what of it?
Yes. He's really quite accessible. I've spoken with him on the phone a couple of times briefly. I still hope to meet up with him to get guidance on a book I'm writing and youtube content that friends have been egging me on to do.
I'm glad to see more attention is being paid to him.
He seems like someone who very much likes the sound of his own voice so that's not surprising.
@@georgeparkin4420most pretentious sounding comment of the day. Your friends should just egg you.
'' Two Huge Parties which are Corpses lying across the way '' Perfectly put Mr Hitchens.
And yet Hitchens rejects the only way the duopoly of power in the UK can be changed, i.e. the introduction of a form proportional voting. FPTP favours duopolies. The vast majority of UK governments have been formed where the victorious party has won considerably less than majority of votes cast.
Democracy has died
his brother was on the money.... peter is off the mark in a calm manor but wrong,,,, example the old adage the british WON,T do those jobs, no the british can not live on the low wages black brown white british,,,,, but ,ten young men to a flat and its doable,,,,,,,we do not live ten to a flat.... twisted logic in a calm manor ,,is still wrong ,,@@eamonryan2198
He lost me when he said he loved first past the post.@@eamonryan2198
@eamonryan2198 Hence my comment about Hitchens not being his brother!
His brother would have actually made some more intellectually incisive comments...
The real concerns of the people of the UK are how expensive everything is! How we are being robbed by energy companies! How much are council taxes will increase again this year! How healthcare has been run down over the past 10+ years. How run down our schools are! How often we are provided endless distractions from this in order to discourage anger and resentment of the richest 1% who are squeezing the lifeblood out of the UK for their own personal gain. Does he mention any of this?
the 1% know what is coming
@@valuetraveler2026 Facile reply
Hitching is a joke i talks about a revolt..yet a does acknowledge the main things on peoples minds...the cost of living...that why listening to main stream media is so frustrating
We pay more and more and get less and less
@@ce5890 Yep
All is LOST....I and my family are preparing HEAVILY for seriously terrible times in the near future.
Is that how you feel?
Not the only one , they keep pushing us it’s not going to end well .
As well you should. Buy gold or something like it. Prepare in every way you can.
really? you think things are more dangerous then during WW1, during ww2, during the korean war, the cuban missile crisis, the cold war between US and Soviet Union. how about 26th september 1983. a date that isnt remembered well - but it is when the soviet defence system falsely believed it was being attacked. the world very nearly plunged itself into nuclear war. that was/would have been serious trouble
So what is "worse", a serious existential threat to you, or the complete loss of the "you" that could be threatened to begin with? If there is no longer any "you", there is no longer any possible threat of annihilation to "you".
If there is no longer any nation to be annihilated, is that a good thing, because what isn't there cannot be threatened? Or is it bad, because it just means that the annihilation has already taken place while you weren't paying attention and now it's too late?
Depends on whether you think what you have lost was worth keeping. Most people do not understand what being part of a nation and of a people used to do for them, or their parents and grandparents. This is one of those things that, unless you are unusually perceptive, you will only miss once they are gone.
The government actively reduced old apprenticeships (that worked) and introduced modern apprenticeships that had lower standards and didn’t cover the skills that were found sadly lacking. Their answer was to bring in trained people from other countries. Manufacturing was moved from our country to others.
Tories would sell off our grass and trees if they could
@@chickenliver they would even give it away I fear
@@chickenliver like you didn't even listen to the interview
I've had the dubious task of hiring youngsters with engineering apprenticeships. They had all the papers but sadly it was all theory and they lacked hands on skills. Not their fault and I complained to the college that they were letting these young men down.
I've had the dubious task of hiring youngsters with engineering apprenticeships. They had all the papers but sadly it was all theory and they lacked hands on skills. Not their fault and I complained to the college that they were letting these young men down.
Britain faces a revolt. I think that's a bloody understatment, don't you .
Emigrate or remain and be comprehensively abused
Yes. A revolution in learning to read and write!
Yes possibly. Why tho? If Labour get in then that’s democracy.
Hopefully the ire of any revolutionary mob will be against the brexit charlatans who lied on a colossal scale about ‘opportunities’. And often these people (e.g Farage, 7 times failed parliamentary candidate) were in no position to promise anything.
What, through the likes of Tommy Robinson?
Exactly. Hitchens is blissfully unaware how bad things really are.
Why is it that the hundreds of ex-Trots turned Conservative cannot believe that other ex-Trots can turn Labour without keeping their previous beliefs?
did you look behind the curtain?(wizard of oz) you better duck! you're showing your smarts again! lol our leaders have broken the unwritten social contract, live by the ten commandments and the golden rule, light your torches, sharpen your pitchforks.
He specifically claims that Starmer hasn't denied or denounced his former beliefs.
Labour are an ancient breed. Long gone. Galloway has shown that.
Great interview, well done for having him on! Last bit about people not wanting freedom was my 'aha' moment during covid. People value safety and stability over freedom. They only want freedom when a tyrannical dictator/government fail to provide safety. Hence why serfdom existed for millennia and there were very few revolutions.
Hobbes' Leviathan, basically
That's why Americans love their guns...and go and see what's happening there,now is the time....
This is also Putin's Russia. Until Russia is threatened, he is safe.
@@anneloving8405 sorry I don't fully understand you? Can you elaborate?
Such a pleasure to hear someone speak so much sense
“Jobs people won’t do” is code for “overworked, under- or no-pay, no benefits.”
Correct! During the "Great Panic" lots of British People who lost jobs and livelyhoods applied for fruit picking jobs to try to make ends meet. They were rejected, but the government ALLOWED 900 Romanian nationals to come into this country during lockdown to take those jobs. It's not that British People wont do those jobs, it's because the government prefer cheap, migrant labour. Absolutely criminal!
Correct
Aided and abetted by vanity higher education policies that encourage debt and delusion upon school leavers.
End all benefits and see how quickly people will take them.
@@R3tr0v1ru5The only things you would see would be more people living on the streets, soup kitchens and an increase in criminal activities. We would see adults and children starving. A break down in our fragile civilisation. What we wouldn't see would be a massive increase in low paid jobs. Because a lot of low paid jobs are hard work that many people physically are unable to do.
Its no wonder we have no industry in this country when it is assumed that technical is the opposite of bright.
Spot on, technical skills are the foundation of a functioning society, the metropolitan elite believe they are better but offer little and build nothing
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We used to have technical schools post 11. Plus secondary modern and grammar schools. The Tripartite system. Comprehensive schools put paid to that. Some decades ago the National Curriculum placed a lot of emphasis on STEM subjects to the detriment of Arts and Humanities. I cannot see how this helped when others were removing the industrial and engineering jobs overseas. Many children are not stimulated by in Design Tech classes when they are asked to design a Pizza Box. Page after page of crayoning in. I would have been bored too.
Interviewer is the opposite of bright. Wonder who she knows or banged to get the job?
Well said.
Nice to listen to a thoughtful interview. Why does the BBC no longer do this.
They wouldn't get their licence fee from the Government.
Because the BBC only wants people who can be relied upon to follow the BBC view of the world.
Mainly scared of the truth......watch midwife or countryfile to see where they are.
Does not fit with their narrative?
Midwife is off the scale for fairy tales.....so far removed from reality and countryfile is now a branch of the social services.
"We've been conditioned to follow the rules."
"Didn't work with me!"
Although I follow and pay attention to Peter Hitchens and have a very mixed view of him (he's a very mixed man), that is an absolutely based comment from him and I greatly enjoyed it.
He's also entirely spot on that many people do not like freedom and therefore how important it is to fight for.
Ex teacher here originally from Germany, taught in British comprehensive schools, was warned by Professors not to go into the schooling system. There is an appalling behavior standard in British schools with children not valuing education and very little self discipline or discipline by the parents, who seemingly are helpless, being faced by their teen agers who rebel against any authority. The students are also forced into studying things they do not want to learn such as languages, because they argue it won't help them in life, with which i agree, so the curriculum is ridiculous. And yes the German system is better specifically in that respect. Also children start much later when they are mentally ready usually at age 7 and do not spend all day in schools. At least it was like that when i lived there might have changed for the worst as everything else.
Language teaching starts far too late in Britain, IMO . It'd be most effective at nursery schools or in the home. When every child has a NannyBot(tm) this will be feasible.
I remember my first week at high school, a lad smashed a brick over another lads head. This was in 2005. It's nothing new.
My own view is that we don't really have an education system in this country. What we have is a state run baby-sitting system whereby the parents can both be wage-slaves and still produce the next generation of wage-slaves.
Some children, of course, do get an education and others receive some level of training as they are naturally inclined to absorb certain types of teaching. Many, unfortunately, get neither.
Perhaps in Germany you had an education system better tailored to how children are but that requires a better society altogether to start with. Ours is simply degenerating.
@@myla6135 👍👍👏👏
You can teach whatever you want, it’s the learning that counts, i.e. the acquisition of knowledge, information and skills, which produces a lasting change in thinking or behaviours. Our children are not taught or encouraged to think, thinking is dangerous, it promotes independence, when all we need is compliant fools to do as they’re told, people to join the workforce as perpetual slaves.
500,000 more long term sick since 2020.
I wonder what happened in 2020 ?
This is ytube, i cant possibly comment.
H. G. Wells nonfiction work titled "Anticipations" he wrote that the common people had lost their "self-respecting inferiority" and that by the end of the 20th century, their numbers could be reduced with "injections".
@@usntheboy1 That's nothing. Roald Dahl once wrote in his non-fiction work 'George's Marvelous Medicine' that experimental drugs would inevitably lead to the 'disappearing' of our old people. Frightening stuff.
Funny I just made exactly the same comment before I read yours. 👍
Actually, the long term sick and excess mortality have risen in 2021. I wonder why. See the official public statistics
The Elephant is forever invisible.
Not only the UK, whole Europe is in a huge mess.
could be worse.. could be russia
What a super interview. Peter has shot up in my estimation hearing his in depth knowledge and balanced views on this wide range of topics. Thank you for posting.
This man portrays the balance of a seesaw. He will not listen to or debate anyone who doesn’t see the world through his eyes, even when things he has said have been proven wrong
@@enemystand2981 Thank you, quite right, he's just an opinionated old man who functions with the absolute certainty that he is always right about everything.
Did not expect an interview of this quality from Times Radio but bravo. The only way we dig ourselves out of this abyss is by once again, allowing people to speak.
Cailancook9620 - better still let the people decide which country they want to live in. Why should the entire island be governed by an annexe of the Vatican state ? (Inner London) probably 99% of the populace are unaware of this fact, and continue in their ignorance thinking the problem can be solved by voting for a political party.
Their needs to be the formation of several countries and we'll see how well inner London manages without being able to tax a nation they have no right to govern.
Stay in your country of origin .@@joedee1863
@@joedee1863You're clearly unaware that the few people in London earning £200k per year are paying more income tax than every adult in Scotland and Wales, combined. If you segregate London, we're the ones who will suffer not London.
We are not talking about London we are talking about inner London, did you not know that it is a separate country with it's own police force etc etc
@@andrewmcgauley9181The whole of London is a separate country these days.
Having Trump back sounds like a lot more fun than sleepy Joe.
"Politicians and diapers must be changed often, and for the same reason." Mark Twain.
The casualness that people have about starting wars, even after the mess of the 20th and the 21st century so far, is absolutely stunning.
it is because they know they will not be fighting in it
Greed is a biblical sin: against the 'light'; we have known so much better. Be glad of that.
I have always been more aligned with Christopher Hitchens' political views rather than his brother's. However, where I completely agree with Peter is the appalling tragedy and senselessness of war. I also respect his point of view even if I don't agree with him. He is honest and telling his truth. This makes me challenge my own assumptions. Thank you Peter, God bless and Happy Christmas.
Christopher's charm and intellect were something to behold. CH was spot on with Islam, Feminism and even Atheism, up to a point. As a younger man, I was an avid CH reader, even a fan I suppose. Peter appeals to the traditionalist in me today, and my eyes are wide open to the dangers of Leftism and Liberalism. The cynical anti-theists like Harris, Dawkins and Co. leave me cold, today. Peter is making far more sense to me now. I often wonder what Hitch would have made of Covid or America today, perhaps he's better off in blissful ignorance.
Yes he is honest, a good orator and a deep thinking man but I think using the term "his truth" to describe his deep in-depth nuanced opinions would make him cringe.... This interview is about his opinions on various subjects.
@@stevegarrett2366 You're right he would cringe, it's terrible terminology. I was trying to make a distinction between an opinion expressed that I don't quite agree with but recognise the logic and respect the reasoning and thinking behind it, to another which either lies or trots out a consensus view.
@@cassandra2249 Great reply to my comment. Thank You.
@@stevegarrett2366 You're very welcome, you're response to my original comment encouraged me to be more specific. Anyway, Happy New year, it's going to be a crazy one, nearly 2 billion people go to the ballot box this year, in the biggest democracy event ever. (although you can hardly call Russia a democracy).
Throwing out millions of foreigners is not bigotry. There are too many people in the UK, too much pressure on NHS/Housing/Schools/Transport network/public purse etc.......the country is bankrupt. We never voted to massively expand the population with foreigners, though in terms of taking back control the Referendum was part of that; and sabotaged.
Repatriation is inevitable.
I’d rather you left
@@twowardrobeswardrobes1536
Very smoothbrained
Very stunning
Very brave.
"There are too many people in the UK, too much pressure on NHS"; it is the foreigners who run the NHS; throw them out and there is no NHS; most of the migration into the UK is because because we don't have people to fill essential, but poorly paid jobs; increase the pay in these jobs and you have triple national insurance, which people have consistently voted against
Throwing out millions of foreigners is not bigotry. No, it is ethnic cleansing; a war crime.
"UK politics: Desperate.There are two huge parties which are actually corpses lying across the way to any kind of serious political debate.The real divisions in the country are not reflected by them and in fact the real concerns are not dealt with by them. But they persist because of all kinds of things that inertia the way in which they are funded when they are out of office by dodgy billionaires the broadcasting rules which favour the establishment:"
The characteristic of our today's reality I've have heard.
A majority vote in the first chamber (house of commons) plus inherited seats in the 2nd chamber (house of lords) does not look like real democracy for me
👌🏼 never has telling the truth with fact made me so depressed , I truly feel we are doomed and I love the UK ❗️🥺
Facts are nonsense. Without insight, there is no understanding.
Peter hitchens was spot on around the 6 min mark in, this country is not a well governend country and very neglected in most parts
Over-governed more like. Too much Socialism.
The whole political establishment in the UK can be described in one word: "Unflushable".
2 million non-EU migrants have come to the U.K. over the last 5 years. Only 300,000 work.
Of the 13 parties who have enquired to rent my property in Portsmouth, 9 were foreign immigrants on benefits because they were unemployed.
All claimed the British state was happy to pay their rent.
Why do we do this? Why is a Tory government so keen on this?
You work for them
that is because more than 50% of them are students and are not allowed to work; they are paying customers which keep the British University system afloat; if you don't like foreigners supporting the UK economy, you must also prohibit tourism
@@funnythat9956 Oh, that's interesting. I'm glad you've turned up as I think you're going to be able to handle the next few starter questions.
If more than 50% of that 2 million are students, that makes it true that over 1 million came to study in the U.K. over the last five years. So, my questions to you:
1) How many dependents did they bring?
2) How much did it cost to educate each child? (I think it's circa £6,000 per head in the U.K.).
3) What about healthcare costs?
4) Are you still sure, once the costs are subtracted from the fees, that these paying customers are supporting the U.K. economy.
5) How many of them study at Russell Group universities?
6) How many return after their studies and how many opt to stay here with their families because of the loop hole that allows them to do so?
7) Why do U.K. universities suddenly need millions of foreign students in order to stay afloat after centuries of sustainment mostly teaching the U.K. population?
When this society eventually has nothing, it has nothing to lose…
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Happy to say it has so much. Therefore so much to lose. Ridiculous thing to say.
Sorry, that was flippant. I re-read that.
@@bugmanukyou'll have to tell me what we have to lose, cause from where im standing its slready lost its just a matter of time, 20-30yrs and the natives will be a minority we already are in our capital and many other large cities.. the damage is done
@@KrisRoberts114That happened in America and Australia - look how well they've done since! (No damage whatsoever.)
The demons don't want peace .
It's not so simple.
When you have first past the post, what you will get is a wedge. When you have a winner takes all political system in general - it's very easy to see everything argued over more and more niche issues leading to a large scale disenfranchisement of many people. I mean, if you think about a 60% voter turn out, and 40% of the vote ends up with a majority government, what you really have is 24% of the population effectively voting in a majority government that does not represent the population. And yet, because of what we are taught: We are told it does.
Ideally people would know that there is a "These options don't represent my views" - and that would be glorious. But few people are going to willingly put that on a ballot as it fundamentally means parties HAVE to at LEAST pay lip service to the majority view, which tends to be very centrist. And that would undermine the current status quo power system.
Demons aren't real.
She showed her bias in her first sentence when she called him strident.
She's Don Lemon in a dress
He's truely a gem. He's accessible , really freindly, not the kind of bloke he gets labeled as. He's a great guy.
Uuuuhhhh
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Friendly? Hmm…….
Watch his interview with Alex O'connor. Might change your mind!
PH is pompous, petulant and utterly out of touch. The Alex O'Connor interview is the perfect example.
I've been fairly unimpressed with Times Radio,but this was a very good interview.
“Two huge parties which are actually corpses” well said!
They're corpses because we are actually being ruled by a tyranny in Whitehall. Neither party has any control over immigration etc.
Because he knows that the govern-ment IS a corpse- ration
Corporation in Legalese.
It is dead speak under admiral law - legislation.
Illegal is not the same as unlawful.
The UK has been of the grip of the Uniparty for the past 25 years.
Only real alternative was branded an antisemite by the establishment
Both cheeks of the same backside - George Galloway
Iits quite amazing how many pensioners were apparently dead when mad lizzy destroyed the economy and reduced tory support to less than 20 % running reform economics
This is a GOLDEN example of how to do journalism.
How?
@MrJonRio by asking questions and letting the guest answer
Peter was stating the obvious about both Parties. I expected more from him than nostalgia about the two party system of Parliament. I wanted SOME honest insights into how they, the Brits, got there. He knows but will not face that knowledge because it was the Conservatives and their NEOLIBERAL ideology that has led to Britain being such a mess, as it has in the DYSFUNCTIONAL USA.
I agree with a lot of what Peter says but take issue with his wording of 'bright' children being identified at some age to attend academic schooling. When an academic needs a water leak fixed or their house re-wired, they need a 'bright' plumber or a 'bright' electrician to use their learned skills to make their homes liveable again. I have never signed up to the theory that only 'bright' people can be academics and that all academics are 'bright'.
Absolutely. I've been furious about this all my life. Nobody outside of Britain is so dismissive of people who actually do practical things.
you would rather hobble bright children, how will that improve the lot of the working classes? I understand what you are saying, there is no reason that a intelligent person cannot be a plumber or carpenter, but it seems unlikely that the very brightest would be best put on that route (intellect is not an on/off switch, but a scale).
@@TB-us7el You've missed the point completely and you are putting words into my mouth. Next you extrapolate a whole theory from what I haven't said.
The whole reason that the UK, unlike
Its European counterparts, has such a skills shortage is precisely that everyone is brainwashed to believe that if they are not academic then they are second- class citizens. It feeds directly into the English class system which has never gone away.
The fact that you say that anything less than an academic background will ' hobble' them is a case in point.
Even though I didn't attend a music college I had a successful career as a musician alongside being a carpenter and light engineer I did bits and pieces. I educated myself through sheer curiosity. My ' cleverness' was not certificated.
In a ' grammar stream' of secondary school I was consistently near the bottom after being third in primary and passing the eleven- plus.
I was never allowed to do woodwork or metalwork as it was considered ' below' me. Consequently I left school with one GCE O level.
Is it any wonder that there is so much animosity and misunderstanding between those of different occupations?
@@seriousoldman8997 did you miss my question mark? Take a breath. Next, not sure what your unfortunate situation has to do with what I'm saying. Could it be that those who want to do woodworking and such should be encouraged and those who do not shouldn't? The school system has changed dramatically since you left, so I think you might be tilting at windmills. A return of grammars needn't mean they are precisely as they were in the past.
‘Bright’ does mean academic prowess though so I don’t really see your problem with what he said.
I would not call a plumber or an electrician ‘bright’. I would call them ‘highly skilled’ or ‘technical expert.’
My sense is that the great British public is disgusted at the offers of the ‘uniparty’. Yet still it seems that interviewer sneers at the public wondering if they could be ‘hypnotised’ - clearly ignoring the state sponsored messaging, and censorship, that has been taking place over here for quite some time.
It's Insulting to our Intelligence
Lost respect for Peter after he made a huge thing about being anti vaccine etc then went and got the jab.
It's nice to hear a sensible discussion. Thinking of Christopher... we could have really done with him around the last few years.
No one would have listened to him. No one listens to intelligent people because the majority of people are not that intelligent. They get bored with intellectual discussions. What they lean too is sound bites and mis direction that directs them to their already established views. The most beautiful speaker I have ever heard was Enoch Powell and its worth you tubing a debate with Johnathan...... oh Im sorry I cannot remember his name but its a great debate.
For the first time in 47 years of voting I am now so disillusioned that I can't see myself voting in the next election. I don't think I'm the only one who feels like this.
No vote = no voice you can not coplain or debate the next political agenda happy new year =🎂🍺
Reform, pal.
Certainly no party is perfect - far from it.
But compare (without the propaganda cooked up by Right-wing media) where we were when the Tories came in. Public services, wealth distribution, GDP, whatever.
On virtually every measure, it's clear what has happened in the last fourteen years.
Now, imagine that you were put in power. Your goal is to damage the country. You can't use the military, you can't overthrow democracy. Try to imagine how you would do this yet still be able to get re-elected so you'll be in power for fourteen years.
I want investment, regeneration, decent social provision, good economic growth. I know that none of this was perfect under the last Labour government, but it was for me a million times better than this asset-stripping lot. I'm voting because I know which party gave me treatment straight away when I had cancer, which party gave me a growing standard of living, gave me a clean environment. If the next Labour government does the same I will be more than grateful. I hope you will help to make that happen.
@@douglasaitken3203 get a grip. He can not vote and speak as freely as he wants. Voting doesn't give you a voice.
Every mainstream party is a morally and intelectually bankrupt joke. You can count on the fingers of one hand the MPs that stood up and pushed back against dangerously insane lockdown policies and the murderously blinkered backing of the dodgy experimental clot shots that are STILL killing and injuring and yet STILL being pushed upon the vulnerable and gullible.
The UK is already down the tubes and in intensive case forever.
There appears to be no leaders with backbone and grit.
There should never be an accountant running a company, unless it's a bank, or a country.
Accountants should not run a country, but they should have a say in how the money is allotted
Please shutup Robin. Old men like you always hate the youth and condemn us to die in wars because things dont and probably never did meet your fish bowl understanding of the country. Your scared because you dont understand. We all are but old geezers with power are flicking out their dung brained opinions like they have a grasp of things, which you dont. Clutch at the ideas as you may, you will be flattened,. You are already prone and the problem is you've intentionally or not been aware that you have done as much possible damage on the way out as possible. The moment you were given a wisp of power in youre life. It was just a wisp mind you, Then you lot have swung and tantrumed around like toddlers being told " no fish fingers for dinner tonight" poor Robin..
Patriot first.
Office intellectuals to advise.
Only then will you get a leader of a nation who has the interest of a nation and it’s people at the forefront, Then,with the guidance of the experts,, a strategy for optimum governance
Democracy is gone. The 'leaders' you see take their instructions from people we can't see. That's why they have no backbone.
Agreed 100 pct. They should be kept in a small record keeping role.
One thing I will agree with PH 100% is that many people do not really want freedom or democracry.
What they really want is a semi-dictator or strong man who will implement their own personal preferences even if those preferences are minority ones.
Love Peter. Such a calm English pessimist rationalist. We need more of these types of people
More know it all journalists offering no solutions?
Riveting conversation.
It does point up just how desperate our country's fate is with our moribund, dishonest and disgraceful political parties.
And political 'thinkers'. Did you see him during the pandemic? He looked like Captain Caveman, he had a nervous breakdown, he won't get therapy, because 'everybody else is wrong'. This is Poe's Law.
Nah, I think Hitchens has travelled the entire political path from left to right, and having come close to the end of the path, is in need of a strong cup of tea and a bit of a lie down. He knows the punch line is going to be a bit of a killing joke...............just as it always has been.
@@jeffhubbard4688 Sadly that is true.
@@frelonvert6064 is it possible that everyone else is wrong, ever?
our leaders have broken the unwritten social contract, live by the ten commandments and the golden rule, light your torches, sharpen your pitchforks..
You can't overthrow the establishment if every time someone "different" gains political power they are immediately enrolled into the establishment or completely shut out of it.
I feel like that’s happening with Richard Tice, just as it did with Lee Anderson.
One thing about this interview that stood out for me was Peter's comparison of Princess Diana and Donald Trump: Both not unusually bright but cunning. I've met the occasional person like that in my life.
Yes we need a more targeted education system but UK is essentially a services market where do they work if we are not supporting industry, technology, pharma, home made hardware. Our government is also a huge burden constantly spewing out new regulations strangling industry and entreneurship. Its not complicated but flooding the UK with immigrants is a ridiculous idea.
No one can be very well informed on every subject, even Peter Hitchens. However, I have always found him to be worth listening to. Even more importantly he is honest, and I find him refreshingly straight talking.
Why? How often can you listen to someone say "EVERYTHING IS RUINED, THERES NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT, IF ONLY EVERYONE LISTENED TO ME WHEN I TOLD THEM THIS WOULD HAPPEN"
Though admittedly, he just asserts he made these predictions, he didnt write them down anywhere.
He has an opinion on everything based on his experience, he Denys data and refuses to learn anything new
I only wish he would move his lips and enunciate more so he would lose that 'Prince Andrew' drawl.
To pessimistic he thinks there's no hope for the country, he could be right and he doesn't support strong man leaders probably the only thing that could save the country.
I agree that he’s worth listening to, but his manner is often so nippy to whoever he’s talking to. The tone of voice uses to speak to people is unpleasant and rude imo. I’ve met others who went to the Leys School in Cambridge - as he did - and they all gave the same iirritated tone of voice. It comes across as very superior and arrogant.
If you want people to pick your fruit and vegetables: that's easy enough. Just pay them good wages and provide clean accommodations. Hey, I'm British, and I did that job in NZ and Australia, and it is a good job, but you need to treat pickers as human beings, not fecking idiots!
You have to be able to deal with loneliness in order to tolerate the feeling that everybody is wrong.
The elephant in the room concerning the Middle East is about how the public opinion, worldwide, swung so easily and before the invasion took place. This question is always avoided.
I really enjoyed this discussion! First time listening to Peter Hitchens. Many thanks!👏🏻👍
What an excellent interview. The obviously very knowledgeable interviewer genuinely interested in letting Peter fully express his views without interruption. A rare thing indeed.
He's still a communist who supports Putin and czarist Russia🎉🎉🎉
Absoutely
Great observation. I wondered why I listened to the whole thing. Hitchens was good too, allowing the questions to be formed.
7.21 At one point he mention the immigrants who were brought in to do the jobs Boston people wouldn't do working on the fields as pickers in the agricultural businesses
But he failed to say that was the problem , lazy British work shy people wouldn't do the work so the farmers had no choice but to use immigrants for the work instead .
I take it this comment is satire? The woman didn’t have a clue about the situation and history of Ukraine / Russia and sounded unhinged asking if Putin should be ‘taken out’ as if anyone in the West has the right to decide who lives or dies depending on whether they agree with them. She asked terrible, naive questions and lacks what it takes to pass as a ‘journalist’.
Congratulations to mr. Hitchens for not storming out of an interview this time.
He doesn't have an uppity, leftist kid in front of him, harping on about drugs this time
What a very intelligent and inspiring person.
Spot on , the British public are ignored , The government unwilling to act properly on migration ( they may be afraid of the UN ) Its not an excuse . My area is unrecognisable
There is also a superordinate visceral hatred of the indigenous populations of the West among the political classes of all stripes. We have the same problem on this side of the pond in spades.
@@randacnam7321Ultimately if immigrants are more useful than the indigenous population it will take care of itself.
@@hmq9052 Which they aren't. Unless the Manchester Arena and Charlene Downs are defined as 'useful...'
@@randacnam7321 This would be at the macro level. Immigrants would work and pay tax. To supply the funds to look after the indigenous.
@@hmq9052 Neither of which they're doing as they are massive drains on welfare and work untaxed under the table.
Separating the bright from the technical? That's precisely the problem if you want to compete technically. I went to a comprehensive but academic streaming within the school banished me from the workshops after the third form. This has contributed to a country where people without technical skills have a monopoly on decision making.
@MattOGormanSmith … a very good point. There’s a kind of misdirected snobbery from those who regard practical (and design) ability as inferior to so-called academic ability. I witnessed it in the 1960s of Britain and this interview suggests it remains unchanged.
@@Jack-bs6zb He is a product of the 1960s, so it is hardly surprising
@@Freeasinfreedom812 ... and at the opposite end of the scale we have the most over rewarded occupations within the legal profession.
Yes. A massive problem with intellectuals in the educational system preaching in universities about the wrongs and rights of society .
Yeah that's why German industry is failing right?
Bad schools and overfull hospitals, so austerity is the problem…
Thank you for posting such a well balanced and researched program. The international comparisons were particularly good at providing perspective on the the debate on UK economic policies of the last decades.
Its Trash mate...stop listening to these political clowns...hitchin is just your typical wash up brit..who its very much out of touch with reality
“Move outside London and the South-East”. I live in Hampshire and I can tell you now the decline and poverty Peter speaks of in the Midlands, North and Celtic fringe is just as prominent in many areas of the South and London.
@@whatsMyNameAgainAgain I never implied that the UK was just England. Of course in the North, Scotland and Wales there’s pockets of affluence.
I felt from the beginning of the "great panic" that it was ott and wrote twice to my mp and the pm and I urged them to study the Barrington document, that taking the kids out of school when they were not at risk was a huge mistake along with all the other freedom purges
I did not comply went about life as usual walking my dog twice a day for an hour or so at a time, shopped at Aldi where life went on normally for those of us without wet cloths covering our faces.
I swore never to vote for them again PH was not alone in not listening or believing the BBC and their fear mongering. I have not had a TV or listened to the radio for getting on 8 years and I don't miss it.
It was madness. Utter madness. Like many I went along with the first lockdown and set of restrictions, but soon afterwards it was clear who was at risk, and how the Great Barrington sought to protect them. But still the mainstream was all-in on lockdowns and restrictions and freedoms curtailed, and this Covid inquiry with that pompous buffoon Hugo Keith leading the way, is gonna be a farce.
Do you still get threatening letters from the BBC?
Yet he announced on twitter at the time that he took the tea....i asked him if he had been got at, he replied no.
@andreahodson7031 I've read through your comment 3 times and yet I still can't make head nor tail of what on earth you are talking about. Would you mind posting it again but actually explicitly make it understandable? Either way, have a happy new year 😊
I take it you didn’t loose anyone close to you? I worry for people who are happy to ditch tv/ radio in favour of algorithm driven streaming and social with their radicalising, bias confirming, echo chamber effect.
Britain does not face revolt, it faces complete and utter collapse. The process is in the final stages. Why do I know this? I took an interview for BAE Systems who were looking to hire people to build 8 number Type 26 Frigates at the cost of £1.4 billion per ship. All ships to be built on the Clyde. So what is wrong with that? Glasgow has some of the worst poverty in Europe, the cost of one warship could give the people a brand new Tram System, fix all the potholes in Glasgows roads and also the pavements and still have change. What do we do? We build warships that do not patrol our shores or stop an ongoing invasion and we don’t take care of our cities or our people. This is what collapse looks like when up close and personal.
It has to be at a rate that people can integrate and it has to be people who are willing to integrate. The UK has failed on both counts.
I could tell Hitchens exactly what is wrong with this country and I suspect he knows but won''t say it on air.
Summing up the last 5 decades I can honestly say it's been that politicians getting rich while we get poor. Everything they have done in parliament over this period is pointless.
Pointless including s substantial amount of Pharma colony.
Happy with the last 13 years? Vote Tory. Not happy? Vote Labour (or liberal if they will win in your area)
@@MrHcharlescomically naive if you think they are fundamentally different. Two cheeks of the same shitlib posterior.
The political class have come to terms with the fact that Britain is a spent force. And so they act like vultures picking at the bones of a corpse, getting what they can and caring not one jot for those who starve. Vote Reform to kick the no-hopers out, once and for all. Elect a leader who has a vision so that Britain may regroup and move forward.
What a load of nonsense.
“An awful lot of people are really tired of an awful lot of things”… Spot on. Let’s vote Reform in the hope of some real change.
In reference to Putin, the journalist asks '' should we just take him out ''?
This is considered an almost mundane & legitimate question by a Western journalist. A majority of people outside of the Western alliance will find this question shocking. The master mentality never ended.
Came to the comments to make that point. She's been watching too much TV: she meant should a head of state with whom we are not at war be assassinated. To her, apparently a mundane concept. What a bloody idiot.
The Times is now dogmess
That 'we' is doing ALOT of heavy lifting.
That was shocking to hear!
I live in Boston and his idea on what we thought about Brexit was nothing like he implied in this video, His description couldn't be more wrong if he tried so I wouldn't take anything else said as remotely accurate either.
I managed half an hour - but then he compared Princess Diana to Trump...
"Peter Hitchens: It's 'frustrating' knowing that everyone else is wrong"
That is an excellent joke.
He’s great at saying what’s wrong but a vacuum for future ideas of hope and progress.
A true conservative...
That's not his job. He's a journalist shining a light on what's going wrong. At the same time, he may have some ideas but that could be for a separate interview.
Hope? You're not going to get much of that from Peter. He would tell you the UK has "died". I completely agree. I'm in the US and it died decades ago. We're living on the fumes of a once blessed nation. Those fumes are all but gone now. I suspect the same is true in the UK. Somebody should write these once great nations an obituary.
Agree with you. In the end he's just a snowflake.
@@rapturebound197Can I ask you what you mean about anyone born after 1990 not caring?
Absolutely correct!.. my brother in law voted out of Europe on migration alone. I didn't, and told him the Conservatives will not stop migration and in fact in will get worse. This has proven completely correct.
He's probably fuming. He changed Eastern Europeans for brown people😂
@@sergiuprofiroiu2814 He would blame the politicians who implemented Brexit, not himself. Well we are still not in control of our borders, as they let into Britain 100s of thousands legally!.. These politicians are living in their own reality and are not in tune with their voters.
he likely voted to have a say in what our future governments have the legal ability to implement, and thus the future ability to vote for what he wants. Maybe ask him instead of thinking you know-it-all like Peter Hitchens.
@@miff227 I know politicians, you can't trust them!..😄
You are correct, But It has nothing to do with which party is in, not going to say power, as the power is with the WEF.
Migration is terrible pretty much everywhere, so who is to blame ?
It's not an accident, it's intentional, to what end?
As a patriotic person it saddens me to agree with much of what has been said. Although I do believe in goodness and this country so I know with hope we will pull through. A negative outlook can only lead to a negavite outcome. John Maynard Keynes: "If people didn't think The Great Depression was happening it wouldn't have happened!"
‘The great panic’ well said👍
well, that was one of the more surprising hours i've had for years...found myself agreeing with everything he said !
It's 9AM...i'm going to have a lie down.
"should he be taken out" - she just casually throws this in with no concept of the utter disaster that power vacuums create in formerly authoritarian states.
I thought that it was an appalling question to ask. PH responded appropriately in my opinion
“Taking out” someone is a ridiculous thing to say. By whom? How? I don’t like Biden but don’t think he should be “taken out”.
She has cue card questions. She's Don Lemon in a dress.
I like how he snuck in that Garth Brooks quote from We will be free! and the year reference, Classy. JMIO :)
What a gentleman, how refreshing to listen to his well considered opinions...Hes well Educated and an eloquent speaker...He has worked so hard to achieve his goals...We need such men as he to save our country...
I agree no one should be allowed in government unless they are elected by the people.
Unfortunately that does not include Civil Servants.
The issue is that neither the left nor the right can offer an alternative economic model since they are both in hoc to global financiers and the tyranny of corporatism. There are major structural reforms and measures that need to be taken to address rampant income inequality, where gargantuan wealth (and therefore power and influence) is accrued through asset ownership and speculation, rather than proportionately, via the means of production, technical expertise, innovation, creativity and skilled labour. Social enterprise and investment
If any politician is truly on the left, then they wouldn't be 'in hoc to global financiers and the tyranny of corporatism' as you put it.
This is just scapegoating - very lazy economic thinking.
What you don't get is that new technology does not require huge volumes of humans. Currently. Gvts - but particularly the labour party ad advance economic growth via demand from ever increasing numbers of people.
The latter is totally unsustainable in environmental terms, but this is the model Labour and I'm particular Blair and Brown established the UK.
Technical innovation is a highly geared economy whereas Labour and to an extent Liberal Conservatives support a low geared economy.
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Bravo!
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16:30 "Who is being left behind?" If that is a genuine question, then the revolution is only just around the corner.
Great interview, Peter Hitchens hit the nail on the head on issue after issue.
How is he right on Ukraine matters? He is repeating the same narrative, which Russia repeats ignoring all things Russia did
Hitches is in command of his arguments, which makes a welcome change from most political commentators. His views on selective education based on the German model are particularly well founded. Refreshing to hear a non partisan view - a conservative who sees Tory opportunism for what it is. Good interview.
He's not a conservative.
No you don't say ?@@kevinb9830
He is definitely not a conservative. Look at his past.
@@thewoodster8607 In what way is he not a conservative now? He's not shy in talking about his past.
Here in Germany (BW region) we have a 3 stream system - Gymnasium, Realschule and Hauptschule - decreasing in order of 'academic' level and intensity. Your stream is determined at the end of lower school by teachers recommendation and parents choice. However depending on performance and the students choice it is possible to move later to another tier, if it seems more suitable as things develop over time. Very good system.
I agee👍 it also helped Germany to quickly recover after WW2. They really "built back better".
@SuchaDoofus - I don't see a problem if the system is porous and geographical and financial barriers don't get in the way of moving. In the UK, it was very difficult bureaucratically to pass between schools and streaming was not dependent on parental choice or teachers' recommendation. Instead, a single exam decided pupils' school career and for most it was very difficult to move up without a scholarship and strong support. (I think that some children did move across to a less academic school, but only after "failing" in the academic schools.)
We use (almost) the same system in the Netherlands - VWO(Gymnasium/Atheneum), HAVO, VMBO(BKGT 4 levels). It's decided 50% on school advice and 50% on a test (CITO)
The 1944 Education Act proposed something along that line. But because the grammar schools seemed to lessen class consciousness they were opposed by Labour and because they also made working class and lower middle class students of talent competitive with those in the Public schools for university seats, the Tory Party also hated them. So one gets the Comprehensive schools. which are as bad as American schools.
@@charleshayes2528 Well there is a lot of critique about the upwards mobility in this three tier school system. They say that the income determines way too much if you study later on or not etc. But lower classes usually also have a lower IQ and there we are again at the nature vs nurture debate. I will say however in the last years schools that do not select at least until your early teens are becoming more and more popular. I visited such a school and was horrified by all the dumb lower class people who couldn't behave at all so we will see how this experiment goes.
It is too late for Britain. It is just too, too, late.
The only thing a committee is good for is making sure the course of action decided upon will not result in any of the current committee members being immediately fired.
Thank you for a well balanced discussion. It is always a mistake to place academic prowess above engineering skills. People need to remember that engineers and craftsmen do not just design and make things, they also maintain them. Academics, bankers et al would quickly flounder like headless chickens once the physical infrastructure of society like power generation, water and sewage etc. begins to crumble! These are national security issues, while the world would happily continue to spin without the vast majority of politicians, lawyers and accountants!
Hitchens speaks so much sense - apart from two errors.:
1. He has failed to realise that Globalism is the greatest threat to freedom the world has ever faced. The influence and gradual takeover by boidies such as the WEF, WHO etc. Even the EU is part of the steady movement towards a World Union.
2. His dismissal of Farage and Trump. He doesn't seem to have grasped the fact that we need Nationlism because it is not only the complete opposite of Globalism, it is the antidote.
100%. The UK failed on Brexit and on everything for that matter due to their over reliance on financial services. They ignored the rest of the UK just to bolster London.
I like Hitchens but he is very wrong on Trump....
How so?
Agreed. Who else is going to turn the US round?@@orionxtc1119
39:57 Is Zelensky corrupt? He was named in the Panama (Pandora) Papers.
We have a lot of self-appointed geopolitical experts in Europe as well. The problem I have with this approach is that it eliminates all other possible explanations for global events such as psychological, political, cultural, historical, and any other factors that play a role especially when such events involve autocratic decision making.
Even Hitchens uses the Orwellian Newspeak term "migrant". The implication that it's natural and normal.
Yes that's where he's ultimately positioned himself.
I thought the newspeak term was "Ex-Pat".
A great mind in touch with reality 👍