Liberal Hypocrisy is Fueling American Inequality. Here’s How. | NYT Opinion
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- It’s easy to blame the other side. And for many Democrats, it’s obvious that Republicans are thwarting progress toward a more equal society.
But what happens when Republicans aren’t standing in the way?
In many states - including California, New York and Illinois - Democrats control all the levers of power. They run the government. They write the laws. And as we explore in the video above, they often aren’t living up to their values.
In key respects, many blue states are actually doing worse than red states. It is in the blue states where affordable housing is often hardest to find, there are some of the most acute disparities in education funding and economic inequality is increasing most quickly.
Instead of asking, “What’s the matter with Kansas?” Democrats need to spend more time pondering, “What’s the matter with California?”
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Hi, I'm Johnny Harris, one of the producers for this Opinion Video. I've always wondered why famously liberal states like California and Washington struggled to advance progressive policies, so I teamed up with NYT Editorial Board member Binya Appelbaum to get some answers. I'd love to know what most surprised you most in this video, or answer any questions you may have about how we made it - leave your comments below.
You are the best!!! Love the facts-based content.
"In their mating & migratory habits, liberals are indistinguishable from members of the KKK."
- Joseph Sobran
Appreciate this perspective. Just try being nicer to California next time. It means a lot to me :c
How realistic is the reality where state officials could leverage tax revenue etc. into financing solutions out of these crisis without economic backlash and perhaps other issues?
As a resident growing up in California in Orange County - notoriously conservative - this video is not surprising at all. When people have money and they suspect their property values, school performance, and 'way of life' are at risk of changing they will NOT take a chance on bringing in new construction. In their minds, as long as the 'poors' are kept away from them and out of sight out of mind, at least THEY will be ok. They won't have to deal with homelessness, dirty streets, 'projects', etc.
It's outdated, incorrect, and frankly not forward thinking - but that's what they are thinking. When it gets bad enough it will continue to spill into their neighborhoods and their own families will never be able to afford housing (and we see this happening right now)
"I love poor people, I just don't want them living anywhere near me."
Everyone who has children feels the same way
@@kevmoful no, they don’t want crime living by them. Because poverty inherently increases criminality due to desperation, and lack of resources and opportunity. The thing is, “I don’t want my children living by that” can’t be the way you vote, unless you want to make it even more likely that your children’s children will live by that. Because, you see, this pattern of voting will only serve to intensify poverty, crime, and civic unrest.
@@elijahgavin6706 people choose poverty in our current system. Our politicians are trying to force it on us with inflation and other things but for now poverty is a choice.
The funny thing too is republicans are pro school choice because we understand that freeing up the market would create competition that would drive the quality of education up to at least some semblance of reasonable. The "democratics" are anti school choice. The quote from the former vp Brandon is that he didn't wan't his kids going to a racial jungle
We'll, yeah, what do you expect, the truth? "I hate poor people and I want none of them around me."
Republicans are constantly demonized for things like this. Bill Burr called this out about a decade ago. The only difference between the Reps and Dems, is the Reps are a little more honest.
I would never have believed the NYT would run a story like this. Well done.
Hope springs eternal
Right?!
Has to be an ulterior motive to it
Yeah, I still don't... 🤔🕵
This is purely for appearances and damage control. Nothing more. They are solely being allowed to appear objective in order to survive all of the garbage "reporting" they've been doing for years and to survive the resentment America has for them now more than ever. The media has logged more unprecedented failures in just the past few months than any other time in history so now they're pulling back from it as if they haven't been the cheerleaders for all of it.
I got assigned this video for one of my college classes, but the professor did not discuss the video during class. It seems like the main people who need to hear this aren't going to.
You might as well go watch some Alex Jones or 9/11 conspiracy videos now because the point is that well educated people aren't stupid. They know that Democrats and Republicans govern almost identically. They know that bureaucrats are getting rich printing money for a few monopoly contractors. They know antitrust is dead, that most of the Bill of Rights are meaningless. They know that economic policies exist as an arm of capitalist exploitation, as a gig in and of itself, and not to address them. Or go through the same BS I did and think that there's a political struggle happening that will produce sincere reform. (Not that it's not possible, just that it isn't coming from the Democrat/Republican Brand politicians.)
All that said, I've never felt like there are more opportunities and I love being alive. If that sounded too gloom
This is a pretty misleading (potentially dishonest) video. The way data is presented at 8:38 is just horrible.
If you actually go to the reference "Who Pays? 6th Edition - ITEP", you will see the following:
The Most Regressive State and Local Tax Systems:
Washington, Texas, Florida, South Dakota, Nevada, Tennessee, Pennsylvania, Illinois, Oklahoma, Wyoming, Arizona, Indiana...
The Least Regressive State and Local Tax Systems:
California, The District of Columbia, Vermont, Delaware, Minnesota, New Jersey, Maine, New York, Montana, Maryland....
Noticed any trend here? Now go back to 8:38 and see how Johnny Harris presented data in a misleading way to support his claim of "Liberal Hypocrisy is Fueling American Inequality"
This is terrible Journalism.
@@bohanxu6125I think you missed the context from before the 8:38 mark. It could be that "regressive" is not being used in the same way by everyone using it. This has been happening A LOT the last few years and it's usually the left side that is changing the definitions of words to fit their narrative. The right does it too, but nowhere near the same amount.
@@smania7575
The wording doesn't matter. I don't care about labels fundamentally. The video is trying to imply democratic states actually have less progressive taxes than republican states (ie the hypocrisy). However, if you look at the reference that he gave, the data points to the complete opposite direction. However, he presented the data and spoke about it in a way that implies otherwise. It is just straight up misleading, and potentially dishonest.
Whoever designed my neighborhood back in the 20's , did it right. It's about 65% single family, the rest are 2 families, four families and one well kept 12 unit apartment. Some small shops in walking distance with apartments over them and sidewalks and catwalks to make it easy to get around without a car. I grew up poor in the apartments and now own one of the nicer houses. The neighborhood hasn't changed much.
The last house I bought was built in 1905. Neighborhoods like that just aren't being built anymore. I don't remember the last time I saw a new house (built this century) that was less than 1000 sq ft. Builders have abandoned the working class.
Everybody is progressive until they're even mildly inconvenienced
Middle class suburbanites in a nutshell
They wanted to ban plastic bags where I live. My mom was like "No plastic bags, at all?" I said "Mom, but if it's bad for the environment..." and she voted in favor of it. So yeah, not true.
Everyone is conservative about what they know best, their personal lives
@@futurestoryteller lmao cool story
@@SouthJerzVillains I seem to be missing the part where proving somebody wrong needs to be impressive.
As a conservative, I would absolutely love a piece from the New York Times that approached the Republican Party in this way. Respectful criticism is refreshing.
yes, so unlike NYT, i'm growing my respect for them back.
Oh they are terrible too. Neverending wars, tax cuts for high income earners, legalizing institutional corruption etc. #YangGang
I highly doubt that there would be anything made, like this video, about the Rep. Party. it has always been opposite-standing authors who write pieces like this one, about the opposing party.
@@wenpatxczcvzcsfc well the majority of the republican party refuses to receive any real criticism of itself at this point, even from fellow conservatives, so yeah i doubt it.
@@shayla4007 same goes for liberals and the democrats... if you critize them you turn out to be an "racist" , "homophobe" and all that jazz
This isn't exclusive to the US.
Both sides of the political spectrum have been captured by corporate interests in the UK as well. Nothing will change until we remove the bribery, sorry, campaign donation model of government.
Its actually a disgrace!
That's gecause the uk has shadowed usa politics, particularly since Reagan. Look at the state of things now,n the reasons for brexit and all the same right wing talking points culture wars and divisiveness that's been adopted from across the pond✌
@@bereal6590 Reagan got most of his ideas from Margaret Thatcher, not vice versa lol. She took office before he did and began implementing monetary policy and supply side economics.
They both were implementing the same policies but Thatcher got there first.
I didn’t know NYT was capable of journalism. Good video
You, then, have not read NY Times articles, especially ones that aren't opinion pieces. Read an investigative reporting piece. Widen your horizon, get educated about he world.
They aren't...but even a broken clock can be correct twice a day.
@@etownump Absolutely, the NYT is capable of journalism. Following the Jan 6 capitol protests, the NYT fraudulently reported that officer Brian Sicknick was murdered by a protestor. This fraudulent report was then echoed by hundreds of media outlets, loudly proclaiming "cops were murdered" by violent protestors. This set the stage for much of the political atmosphere that followed. Many people today STILL believe protestors killed people on Jan 6, on the basis of this one story. But, BUT... weeks later, the NYT quietly updated its story, reporting Sicknick had in fact died of natural causes. See? The NYT is a trustworthy organization.
@@etownump We have, they're all lies.
@@LarsLarsen77 Really? So when I read an investigative reports, which take money and time and hardwork, about a corrupt general in Mexico, or atrocities committed against the Rohingya in Bangladesh, or dirty Russian money buying real estate in the US, or corruption in China, it's all lies?
First off, I am impressed that you read investigative reports. Second, I am sad that you would side with (protect) corrupt generals, killers, and the corrupt by saying the stories against them are lies.
This is huge - someone put their foot down and said hey let’s actually do journalism again. I’m thrilled.
This is just pure propaganda, there is no journalism here. You people are so starved for confirmation bias, you will just take everything. Lol, grow up.
@@diptarkadas5193 Can you please develop on your view? What’s the propaganda in this video according to you
@@diptarkadas5193 what propaganda? Open your eyes kid
My God, how dumb are people? This is Marxist propaganda you fool.
@@diptarkadas5193 dude I’m a lefty left left person - calling out power imbalances and hypocrisy is fr a great thing
Coming from a left wing person, it’s great to see a video that isn’t just mindlessly bashing the right but shows us what we are doing wrong
@@benklingman Liberals are only Left-Wing if you don´t have a Left.
Thinking the Democrats are left is the problem
I hope u didn't need this video to realize that
@Kosch GM what do you mean? The right does the same thing
Then why do you keep voting for what's wrong, what doesn't work, what you don't want to go along with? Why do you move to conservative states and cities, and then pressure those people to vote Democrat? Why do you call people racist who are just thinking like you, if you're honest, are?
Great video from the New York Times. I’m from Maine a very liberal state and I grew up in a town with a world class private school where kids applied from all over the world while the two school districts next to me struggled to get teachers and fund their sports teams as we built new turf fields and dorm facilities. Disgusting show of inequality that happens in every corner of the United States that no political party wants to address.
I live in Maine, calling it "a very liberal state" is pretty far from accurate.
I am stunned the NYT allowed this to be made! Sadly it will not be widely available on all their platforms. It would be great to send it over to NPR to watch and maybe learn.
As a wise man once said: "Politicians are regarded as people who have learned to talk, but not to act."
Ah, but it isn't the politicians in this case, it's the people
we live in a period
nice pfp tho
From the video, it was made abundantly clear that the real problem lies with the voters who elect the politicians. But it's always easier to blame someone else, isn't it? I'm a Democrat, and although opposed to the idea of "not in my backyard" and the hypocrisy present in that mindset, I recognize that blame can't be placed solely on Republicans, that Democratic voters need to take responsibility for the laws and policies enacted, especially on the local, county, and state level where they enjoy heavy majorities.
I'm glad that this video exposes Democratic hypocrisy, I welcome the criticism, find it valid, but I think this video, despite a few sparse caveats, critically omits the inequalities in Republican majority states, towns, and districts. If a person is lower middle-income or poor, especially if a minority, it is my experience they generally fare far better where Democrats are in power than Republicans. This video also omits other forms of inequality and how Republicans at the national level and overall are the prime drivers of inequality. Most critically, it ignores how the GOP has abdicated its duty and responsibility to act as LOYAL opposition, instead descending into a fascist, nihilistic hyper-partisan cult. By failing to take into account the big picture, this opinion video fails to see the forest for the trees, which does the public a disservice.
“Let us never forget that government is ourselves and not an alien power over us. The ultimate rulers of our democracy are not a President and senators and congressmen and government officials, but the voters of this country.” - Franklin D. Roosevelt
“Democracy cannot succeed unless those who express their choice are prepared to choose wisely. The real safeguard of democracy, therefore, is education.” - Franklin D. Roosevelt
@@wilywascal2024 >Gets criticized
>Immediately throws "whatabout" argument
lol
This is the journalism that the NYT needs to produce more often
Its a good story. I am glad they ran it because its an under addressed issue. But its also really misleading. It misses that its Republicans allied with small coalitions of Democrats blocking the rest of Democrats from making reforms. I mean yes we should call out hypocritical Democrats. But its important to realize that greater numbers of Republicans support these policies than Democrats do.
@@peterisawesomeplease How does this mean the video is misleading? The base hypothesis is how democrats can and actively do block progress without the help of Republicans. The whole point of making it seems to be to call to light problems that progressives generally don't notice or refuse to acknowledge simply because they're too focused on how the Republicans are bad. It makes no sense to bring up the mechanics of how the Republicans block reforms in a video about how the Democrats block reforms. In fact, it completely obfuscates the point.
Let's say I was a young student and my homework was to write an essay about how dangerous Tigers are and how to avoid an attack. Do you think it would earn me marks to get to the third paragraph and be like: "Now, as you can see, Tigers are very dangerous. But, it turns out the Canadian Moose are even more dangerous!" And spend time talking about that instead? No. It has no bearing on what makes tigers dangerous or how to deal with them. In fact, I would hope that the tiger essay has no obfuscating points about how to protects yourself from Moose, because you may learn that it's safe to climb a tree to escape a tiger only to watch it claw its way up to you no problem.
In fact, there's all sorts of dangerous things left unmentioned in this hypothetical essay, that doesn't mean they're not dangerous. Sorry, I just find this to be such a vapid, useless form of dissent and I see it everywhere. "They didn't mention a point that I think is important, so they could've done better!" But the reality is that making such a point actually makes the video worse.
@iTips source? Have you seen New York State in the last 10 years? ""We're your source?" That's like saying "Where's the sun?"
@@LordLoveaDuck If it's that obvious I'd think you'd have absolutely no problem whatsoever producing one single source... but... you... didn't...
@@peterisawesomeplease exactly!
Normally never reply, but good on you NYT intern who reads this. Good on your company for running a story like this.
You, clearly, have not read NY Times articles, especially ones that aren't opinion pieces. Read an investigative reporting piece. Widen your horizon, get educated about he world.
Congratulations NewYork Time, for keeping your Journalism as it needs to be.
Binya said "people aren't living their values". He's got it backwards: they are living their true values while espousing a completely different set of values.
Exactly
On point
Virtue signaling
Idk, what's your definition of values?
They tell you to live the opposite way they lived....
But really it's a class divide as usual.
Wow! The NYT’s is criticizing Democrats now. Stuff’s getting real! 💪🏽
du du du dump du du dump.... the liberal family started..... protected from the harshness ..... .entitled and self-righteous ....... the Liberal family! ....du du du dump du du du dump
i know in paterson and jersey city, they spend 20-30k per student. wtf is this reporter reporting on?? the rich pay for this!!? the good schools spend much less per student. between 5-7k per student.
@ECOM.SCIENCE Still doesn't get around the fact that the rich pay the vast majority of the taxes. The progressive agenda is simply economic illiteracy, compounding by self undermining contradiction such as open borders, mass importation of dependents while complaining about housing wages and taxes.
I'm in favor of medium density housing. Just not in my backyard.
Well, tbf, their critique is that "Democrats arent being left wing enough"
I want to make some points
1. This is the world we deserve when we prioritize feelings and emotions over logic and reasoning.
2. Both sides, liberal and conservative may have a point. But we will never know what is actually right when we are shunned, name called, bullied, and doxxed for a simple disagreement. We have regressed as a society because we rise to agree to disagree.
I meant refuse to agree to disagree my bad
This is a great report. I am a Seattle liberal who knows no political party has the corner on perfection and truth. Keep calling us out or in and raise the inconsistencies. I will say that Seattle got the residential zoning correct a few years ago. Now older single dwelling houses are being purchased by apartment builders who rent small, affordable units. Instead of one house, ten apartments, townhouses or condos are being built on that one piece of property. These are smart steps forward for a thriving and growing city.
Serious question.
How does the videos explanation of Washington's tax break down work if Washington doesn't have an income based tax system?
Except now, apartment buildings are being bought by companies and the units are SOLD as condos rather than rented as apartments, which means us poor folk are squeezed into an even smaller renting market...which drives up the prices. I live here too. Seattle has fallen.
thats the opposite of what should happen ,why buy bigger pants when your still wearing a smaller size ,the country is too many thanks to the liberal policies giving America away to whoever will vote to keep them in power
I live in Toronto, a very liberal city in a very liberal country. And the whole “equality… so long as it’s not in my backyard” is spot on for most alleged progressives here.
Same here in Copenhagen, the city has been run by the left for 30 years and affordable apartments for " normal" people like school teachers, nurses, student and others has only been build in super low numbers while politicians say all the right things to their voter base. Extremely disappointing and hypocritical.
Funny because they live like that, but push their politics on places like Alberta which are absolutely 100 times nicer to live and work in as things are set up to succeed and develop wealth, not just inherit it.
you live in a WOKE City Under UN agenda puppets usurping Canadians
Except at least in Canada the education system IS funded provincially the way he suggests, so it lessens the inequality between school districts, at least from a funding perspective.
Same in Ottawa. But our city council is typically 50/50 split between urban progressives and conservative rural districts, which leads to stalemates on things like roads and transportation, public services and utilities, and waste management. It's not fair to try and shoehorn the whole city into paying for municipal services that some will never use, like central bus services or a green bin program, or subsidized housing, but it impairs the areas that really rely on those policies to function.
I've worked in urban development for years, and the best solution I can see is a removal or relaxing of zoning bylaws in key areas. It costs four times more to redevelop a lot in the downtown core than it is to have environmental impact statements and surveys for untouched green space for tract housing developments, and it's exacerbating problems with commutes and social infrastructure that existed before those communities were built. Tourism pushes mental health services and shelters away from prime real estate, and biking infrastructure is incomplete and often dangerous to cycle along. People claim they'll use these services if they're made well, and every time a new suggestion is made, the city blows the budget in consultation fees and costly joint ventures with private partnerships that never lead anywhere. NIMBYism is the bane of sensible urban planning, and it has really damaged any prospects of achieving popular consensus across the city right now.
When Johnny Harris shows up you know there’s going to be a map.
lmao true
He might as well be part of Map Men
Everbody gangsta 'til Johnny pulls out a map
He loves his maps almost as much as he loves starring into my soul
I miss borders
Wow, good job with this video. It came up on autoplay and after listening for a few minutes, I looked to see what channel it was. I'm now left with a bloody stump on my neck because my head blew off my shoulders when I saw it was from the NYT. Impressive!
Hypocrisy. You're one to talk
Would never expect the New York Times to have this kind of content
Just trying to get some credibility back after the way they covered the Trump presidency.
Red wave
@@sebastianleja3461 Let's do a similar piece on Republicans and conservative states. I mean, you'd be fine with it, right?
Your name is very befitting
Okay go for it....
As a native Californian, trust me.......this was sugar-coated to death. This is the rated G version.
You guys keep voting for it 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Too much Fox News, I see. I am not my state's keeper...... Or rather, not all so-called "Californians" are whacked out democratic party supporters. When you're politically outnumbered in the nation's most populated state, there is not much you can do about it except find a way to escape.
@@pimpinaintdeadho No, they don’t actually. They vote for Democrats who oppose their own NIMBYism, like Newsom. All while voters clearly indicated their support for Proposition 13, for example.
@@pimpinaintdeadho You underestimate how powerful an incentive being a holy martyr is to these people who want to be called "decent, good, compassionate, etc." This is why they will never vote for anything that will humiliate them or make them uncool in any way.
Yeah. California is screwed
The core underlying value of Americans is "Individuality", i.e. selfishness. So this shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. And it's not a partisan problem, it's a American problem.
Not a problem in the least. Group Think is the problem. Collectivism is the problem.
The USA is great because we are the lone example of when people decided for the Individual over the Mob.
End of the day what all of this "justice" nonsense is nothing more than a Corporate Monopoly wanting more market share. More dumb consumers buying even more worthless trinkets.
Respect for individuality is why I wasn't locked in my home for the convid scamdemic.
@@DUCKSAREEVILLLLLLLLselfish, check.
@@saliferousstudios MSM zombie. Check.
@@DUCKSAREEVILLLLLLLL The media doesn't spread viral pathogens, infected people do. Don't conflate your own inability to have empathy and compassion for others with individuality. Just say you don't care.
Wow. I did not expect THIS from the New York Times. How'd you get this past the editor?
Desperation for revenue. Gotta try something new.
you are missing the point ,he is saying the single family homes should be turned into multi family ghettos ,this is still liberal policies that isnt done because the left are really the right when it comes to their personal living situations ,Smoke And Mirrors typical lying democrats want to live like Republicans quiet nice neighborhoods but move the masses into shitholes
Everyone loves equality johnny, at a five mile distance from their home.
Better make it 10 miles...wouldnt want to hurt "property values"
The democrat party created the projects as part of their great society
Ahhh, the NIMBY's...
"Not in my backyard"
HasanAbi has been crying hypocrisy on both sides for months.
How about 500 mile distance? Not in the state or country they live in.
I join the chorus of people extremely surprised that NYT run a story like this. Good on you.
Criticise Republicans when they deserve it and criticise Democrats when they deserve it.
Applaud Republicans when they deserve it and applaud Democrats when they deserve it.
Then people will trust media again.
Actually, while I agree. America needs a new party. Both main parties are corporately owned.
@@meephead6636 Consider the Forward party or Libertarians.
@Lynne Hughes not exactly
The whole world is not Republican or Democrat. Please stop pretending this is how people are really divided. These are the two choices the rich want us to think we have.
@@Misaka-gt5yj libertarianism scares me. Feel like if we got them as a 3rd party they’d immediately become corporate owned specially by ppl like the Koch brothers
This is a mass manifestation of people "wanting to have their cake and eat it too."
They want to tout the ideals of everyone living a comfortable life, but they want their prestine parts of life to never be touched to make it work. Thus the vicious cycle will persist.
I am happy with having the overview of the problem. I do not expect to be offered solutions at the same time. Thumbs up.
"If you're poor... just be rich"
- California
Lol that's could be said by a lot of groups. That's also the motto of the GOP and all liberal elites who don't want to pay taxes.
"If you're consuming a lot...Pay your fair share of taxes"
- NESARA
lol
California public policy is a big factor as to why housing is so expensive there. They have some of the strictest zoning laws in the country and were representative of a disproportionate rate of overvaluations and subsequent mortgage defaults.
@@SimGunther the way to so that is to transition from income taxes to consumption tax.
A national sales tax is far more fair to everyone, you pay the government based on what you spend instead of what you earn.
You know it’s bad when NYT has to report on this
Yep same with USA illegal immigration. It took the border states sharing the load by filling busses and aircraft with people illegally crossing the southern border to the states who said it wasn't a problem, for them to finally admit it's actually a problem.
They just forgot to add the other side of the coin where the GOP is aright and all the propaganda they have been pumping into the pro-Dem and anti-Rep debate has lead to this.
Actually, I think someone was asleep at the editing desk and allowed this to slip by because John had professional capital. I doubt they’ll let it happen again.
NYT is a lot more centrist than they get credit for
@@ab3040 Not according to the extensive research conducted by Mark Levin. But I think they lean a little more left of center than they were about 20 years ago.
California has passed several laws to overcome the inability to build new housing but my god is it SO SLOW. The environmental laws have been weaponized to slow growth and building literally almost across the board. The only solution I see is completely removing local input when it comes to new housing. Beverly Hills should have high rises. West Hollywood too. San Diego. San Fran. People want to live there. We can easily accommodate 10-20 Million more people with little issue if we just BUILD IT.
Ugly a solution as it is, I would look to Houston. They just don't have much zoning there and building permits fly out the door. You might end up living next to an auto junkyard, but their rent's at the lowest of any major metropolitan or were the last I checked. Couple years ago it was about 700 for a one bedroom. That's worth some junkyards.
So I've made three posts here: one about how Britain's lost to the neo feudalists, one about how caning is the only legitimate solution to the social order issues (it's the only deterrent that works but doesn't require massive incarceration,) and one suggesting Houston zoning for most cities. *The truly crazy thing is I'm right on all three.*
We have immense problems, crazy problems, so the solutions may have to be crazy as well.
very eye-opening study, being a General Contractor in southern California, I have to say that you have spoken nothing but truth. what surprised me the most was, that I never saw it. if that makes sense.
I love how this video isn’t really pro-conservative or really anti-liberal. The way it just points out the hypocrisy without saying that their ideals are wrong is phenomenal
They can't. They're the NYT. Reality MUST take a back seat to the narrative.
almost like there are other political leanings than just conservative and liberal
@@rick4580 You're right about one thing, Conservatives do not specifically want to use government to arrange for affordable housing and quality education. You Democrats have fooled yourself into thinking that your compassion without results is better than the Republicans' focus on good-economy-equals-good-everything (including but not limited to housing and education). The USA has better education than Angola not because of Democrats in the USA, but because of a great economy which was been championed and grown by the philosophy of the Right. In every single major political issue, Democrats oppose economic strength. Environment. Taxes. Spending. Entitlements. Lockdowns. Mandates. Everything always against the economy. Yet when there's not enough money to carry things out, they cry for more anti-economic, Leftist ideas. Because "displayed compassion" is better than actually helping people.
@@rick4580 Dude. Angola's stolen wealth by its corrupt leaders is not enough money to do any public service. Democrats stand in the way of all the reason the USA is a first world country. We're all lucky the current woke Democrat philosophy was not in power 200 years ago.
@@rick4580 Ole George wouldn't have fired somebody for saying there are two genders.
"I want to fix this problem"
"Ok so take on this burden"
"No".
The NIMBY plague
Hey! from France.
Good luck with your strikes and take care of each other to be able to hold longer,
you gonna need it even more as they just gutted the "reconciliation" bill to rebuild the USA.
But if you want to be noticed you can do a "casserolade", it's an old french "recipe" to make some noise.
I don't talk about cuisine, I talk about an old way to protest in the street to make noise and/or music
with a pan or a saucepan and spoons made of wood. It's quite festive. ;-)
Hi from France and here is a smarter way to pray... just kidding, to think:
Don't ask yourself if you have good reasons to think what you think (confirmation bias) but
rather ask yourself if you have bad reasons to believe what you are so confortable to think.
In a nutshell, the way of the lawyers versus the way of the good scientists. ;-)
Bad takes like this is why there's an issue in the first place. Having low income families living in your neighbourhood is not a "burden".
Exactly. They take no action.
@@america1754 Not all "NIMBY's" are the same. I don't agree with continually building high-end, luxury housing, when there is clearly a much greater need for low-income, and very low-income housing. Most folks incomes don't fall into the upper class, or upper middle class bracket. Greed and overt political corruption are ruling society now.
Almost 3 years after the publication, still one of the best NYT videos ever
A train system to bring people into town fast to work and home, might mean that the working people can have a tidy cottage in the suburbs rather than live in a box inside a house full of boxes that share walls, smells, dirt and where the kids can't play outdoors. What's the problem with having a great neighborhood with hardworking neighbors, where kids can play? It's how I was raised, many people were raised. We knew many people in the smaller community and had decent schools and values where we were not overcrowded and strangers: crooks, outlaws and creeps weren't a danger to kids.
The NYT run this? As a lifelong Democrat who has been screaming about this for 2 decades, I'm shocked that a corporate news publication has the guts to run with this. Good job on reporting actual news for a change, and please continue to do what you did here.
My thoughts exactly. I might actually get a subscription if they stuck to evidence based policy analysis instead of moderate golden mean nonsense.
"The guts" you explained the problem right there 🤣
So why would you still consider yourself a Democrat if you've seen that the people you support, who wield the power, don't do anything regarding the things you dislike?
they've shifted to communism, don't cheer your own genocide.
Dems, Republicans - they are all the same - look at the dems current efforts to repeal the SALT tax deduction - 100% of the benefit will go to the wealthy. It's all politics.
I like how they call this an "Opinion" piece, Yet they bring forth more facts and research than most "News" stations on both sides do for a story.
Because they have to back up their opinions with facts, but news goes over with no research for the fact of speed, thus fake or misleading news.
It's almost like the NYT is, still, America's premier journalism.
@@stongnyid I wouldn't go that far.
Except they left out all the progressive changes in Virginia that occurred after the Democrats gained full control of the state legislature in 2018. That would have been a better comparison of the stark difference between GOP "leadership" and actual Democratic governance.
@@icemachine79 I agree hopefully he will have a story where some good progressive programs have been implemented. But bottom line in California and New York liberal hyprocisy is horrifyingly damaging to low income minorities. To the point that the KKK just looks at the pounding racism of massive prison populations and horrible schools and thinks "how can they get away with that?'"
Note: this was 2 years ago!! It's much, much worse now-5/2024 !!
Framed in a certain way. It's super valid for a community to keep a less crowded vibe going. There's a big world out there.
Here's the thing. If you're "not living your values" they were never your values. They are things you would like to say you value, but what you actually do, defines your values. This is a perfect example of people wanting the appearance of virtue, without actually having to possess any.
Virtue signaling is the backbone of the Democratic Party
You've read your Machiavelli! :)
@@korhashamo Republicans aren't perfect on that front either.
@@reizayin Republicans are evil too but they're usually direct about it. Both of these corporate-sponsored parties are garbage. After 20 years of being a reliable blue vote, I'm done with both major parties. It's third party or bust for me.
@@korhashamo What he said at 0:51 pretty much nails it. The problem is that it isn't a fault of the two party system, here in Brazil we have multiple parties, but it always boils down to "us vs them", and it didn't take me long to realize that with a mindset like that, we won't really evolve much further as a species.
Long story short: "We want society to be more equal, but not in my back yard."
some people are more equal than others.
more like: "...but not if it will cost me money"
Nimbys
This attitude is pretty endemic at the moment and I honestly can't understand how people live with the cognitive dissonance all the time.
@@orlandogastonchandleraziz9855 Carlin🙂
thank you NYT for finally saying what more reasonable people have been saying since...forever.
Bari Weiss left the NYT under unfortunate circumstances. I'm following her.
“Housing is a human right! We need more affordable housing!*”
*“As long as it’s not in my neighborhood.”
What do you expect from millionaires who preach about open borders, gun control, and climate change while taking private jets to work from their gated communities surrounded by armed guards. It's time to wake up and see who the real bourgeoisie are in America.
George Carlin coined it as “NIMBY” “Not In My Backyard”
“Immigrants and refugees have rights! Not accepting them is akin to murder!”
*”Just don’t send them to my neighborhood.”
Bingo..
@@benjamin8459 lol. Funniest is when they preach open borders while living in gated communities.
When you report real news, you’re the friend of the people.
Politics became less polarized in the last months, I ask myself why
@@contrariobastian4046 not an election year
@@Shanecohen true but the NYT would not do this neither 2-3 years ago, they where focused in the media war against the Republican Party or am I wrong?
see the issue is people are selective.
@@contrariobastian4046 i mean that comment isnt wrong i totally agree, but i was replying to why the media is less polarizing the past couple months. it gets SUPER polarized during elections. also nowadays the average american knows the media is complete BS. they have to build their reputation back up maybe?
There is a lot more to it, and neighborhoods need to keep working together to put a stop to this. Stop letting the politics work against them. And yes, all the water usage, pollution, dust, etc that comes with the building only hurts surrounding neighborhoods and people get sick.
Wow NYT I never thought id see this. Can you please put out more content similar to this. Eye opening for people. Especially us in CA.
I'm other words these people are saying..."I'm for affordable housing....just not within 25 miles of my street"
Excellent synopsis.
Not even then. Progressives are the worst hypocrites. If more housing is built anywhere it will lower their house value. They are Champaign socialists.
Its worse than that though. People who own investment properties that are rented out, far out of their own neighborhood are out of reach for the poor. Nobody wants to rent to the poor.
the thing is, affordable housing is fine, but you need to run it well and be very proactive to not turn neighborhoods into slums, and that also inherently means you don't just churn out gated wealthy communities.
It's a very delicate balancing act. Which is NOT what the federal, or even most local, government can achieve.
Yep
I'm happy to see liberal media actually holding the liberals accountable, nice actual journalism!
Nyt is liberal? Lol. Not everything to the left of fox is liberal.
@@djdedan
Yes nyt is liberal not a leftist channel
This is about the rich in truth. Not so much 'liberals'. But you just stick to your silly 'beliefs'.
Never believed Liberal NYT would release something like this. But also probably why I didn't know about it until after 2 months.
It's an OpEd
I dont know about blue states historically being better for low income families to climb the economic ladder but Ill look into it. My family has seen the opposite since the 1970's and most of them have moved to Red states. I live what was once a blood red state, turned purple now and there is no way I would be able to live this lifestyle in any of the blue states.
Wait, you mean what politicians SAY they are about is just marketing?
I'm blown away that this is coming from the New York Times... and it's refreshing.
I kept looking for the twist… but no, seems like someone is actually asking “are we part of the problem?’
@@nickhoffman4039 The twist is they labeled it "opinion", even though it's chock full of facts.
Yea they've made a good few things like this. Actually enjoyable. Look out for the opinion pieces, they are usually good.
@@curiousing good opinion is, of course, sustained by facts.
Yes, it's nice that NYT is pointing out leftist hypocrisy. But this video is still reinforcing and encouraging the leftist perspective.
I live in Palo Alto, and this is exactly what happens. the people here pretend to be “left wing” however as soon as the policies that help the people they “fight for” interfere witg their lives in any way, its a no. liberal hypocrisy is extremely real
I think this boils down to a rich ppl problem than a liberal/conservative issue
@@justinlane1768 Then why are all these problems specifically occurring in liberal states, as the video clearly showed?
@@viljamtheninja Maybe I didn't watch the video close enough, but I'd bet money that these same issues occur in less liberal areas. Reality is that most high income areas tend to be liberal. I'm sure if you found some red states with similar high income neighborhoods, you'd see the exact same things represented here.
@@justinlane1768 The high income areas are only liberal in liberal states. Do you think conservative states don’t have high income areas? Because the high income areas around where I’m from is mostly conservative.
@@jessicakimbrell4124 and do these types of issues persist in your area?
What is not being mentioned at 5:00 is that even when higher density dwellings are built, they are more often than not unaffordable luxury apartments.
Reality: If a house costs $5m, only a rich family will buy it, and there are only so many rich families. Basic supply and demand.
American politics:
1. Choose a guy who does nothing
2. Choose a guy who does nothing
choose a keynesian authoritarian or a keynesian authoritarian
It's almost like the elite like keeping the status quo while the poor suffer.
Left wing and right wing - Two wings on the same dirty bird.
I can’t stand either political party, but saying they’re the exact same isn’t accurate.
It's not a matter of choosing a guy who "does nothing" the issue comes from lobbying and their "supporters" (big businesses) who expect benefits for supporting them. Once they get into office that's it. They know it is very VERY hard for them to be pushed out and so their primary concern isn't keeping their word to the people, hence why people put lawyers and politicians under the same roof of being the biggest lairs, but keeping their obligation to their "supporters" which paid millions, if not billions, in helping their campaign. Then the media doesn't cover them, so long as they don't hate them anyway. What do you know about Obama's presidency and his policies he put in place? What do you know about Biden and his policies? Probably have a hard time with those right? What if I ask you questions about Trump? Probably not as difficult right? The media covered him every time he passed gas.
The system is corrupt and a LARGE part of it is the media and the system of lobbying.
THIS PROBLEM NEEDS TO BE FIXED!!!!
But the solution can't affect me or my property value!
America in a nutshell........ And it's funny because John Oliver made a point, to point this out two days ago on Sunday when addressing the Power grid problem this country is facing......
What those homeowners don’t realize is that residential real estate sale appraisals are based on “sales of comparable real estate”. So their property values are not exactly affected by that affordable senior citizen apartment building. The appraisal of the properties that are adjacent to the apartments could be affected by the building, but the other houses in that neighborhood will have their appraisals adjusted if being compared with one of the adjacent houses.
Lol
Here in europe we have in average 10 parties, all them totally different. In USA you only have 2 far right wing parties choices to vote.
The analysis is false. The situation is really a tragedy of the commons: the Commons in this case being a real estate market. The winners are the developers; The losers are the owners of single-family dwellings who can’t afford the taxes that go up as developers imagine the opportunity to build multi family and dancer housing structures. The truth is that much of the homeless problem is an issue of mental illness and addiction. The rest of the homeless problem is in evitable as everyone wants to move to the same beautiful areas of the world. Do we really need to tear down the beautiful park like neighborhoods that everyone wants to live in just that that they can be turned into ghetto-like apartment buildings? I guarantee that if this happens the wealthier people will simply move out and the New tax base won’t be able to support the cities and their former glory
Thank you for doing this production. There are only a few errors that need correcting:
1. The Democratic Party is NOT a "liberal" party. Not by a long shot. This is why so many liberals and progressives have left the Democratic Party. In most cases. However, the Republican Party is much worse, so this is where we are right now.
2. The corporate interests run both parties. And almost all of the Democratic leadership has been captured by corporate power and funding. Many ex-democrats will vote for the democratic candidate only if they live in a swing state, so they won't "waste their vote,"
We need deep and serious changes in our voting system to make it reflect the interests of the people. Then we would have a genuine working democracy. That will take a few years...or more however.
This video is produced to take advantage of the Democrats' failure act on their own policies. If the Republican's win control we will have even less chance for progressive change.
Great video! But let's be real, I never thought Libs to be as kindhearted and pure as they always emphasize but you're video really unraveled this matter.
Whether you're a liberal or conservative, the amount of people who manipulate the public is outstanding.
Thats why I self identify as a centrist.
People expect too much from the state. Voting for active policy is a fool's errand, full of predictable "unintended" consequences if not deliberate malfeasance. Centrism/pragmatism are synonyms for doing whatever sounds good with no principles.
Which mostly in public media and education has been taken over by hard lefties.If you are more centre or have some conservative values you are already booed,called sexit and you have not right to take challenge other side.
Exactly both sides do it but it about who does the most and has the most effect on the public
I mean, are we just ignoring the Democrats sponsoring riots for a year?
as a liberal myself this is actually true. I live in an extremely affluent suburb north of SF, and they're trying to build a 40-unit affordable housing building near the park down the hill from my house. But all the residents have been crying out against it, saying "I'm all for affordable housing, but not this project," and they continue to list the flaws of the project. We are a cookie cutter example of not in my backyard-ism.
It's understandable. If I bought a 5 million dollar home in a nice neighbourhood, I wouldn't want a project built near me. Maybe housing is a human right, but if you don't have any money, go live by a land fill, or get some money.
@@michaelgrimm2121 "Get some money" that would be much easier to do if they could actually afford to live in areas where good jobs are
@@michaelgrimm2121 based and cancerous
@@hc3657 🤣🤣🤣
@@michaelgrimm2121 when are people going to take responsibility for the children they bring into this world?
I never would've imagined. I am SHOCKED, I tell you!
it only means your internal narrative about media is based on stereotypes.
@@Davao420 You're projecting, mr funny number person.
@@Davao420 your comment is hilarious thanks for the laugh
i cant believe this is coming from new york times. great video
As a Californian who is not a democrat or a republican, this is 100% accurate. The nimbyism here is outrageous.
It would be awesome if you, as someone who is aware of this, would actively go to these meetings and fight this! Go you!
@@t0ysoldier18
Doesn't even matter how much you vote or come out in force
They'll fortify the election with newly uncovered votes conveniently found in a high enough amount days or weeks after counting
*Loads shotgun*
Liberal, Conservative, Republican, Democrat you're right it doesn't matter.
All that matters is you stay where you are and don't leave.
@@k_tess NIMBYism is the perfect term for all of this. As for the housing issues in CA, perhaps there are just too many people living there in the first place? Lest we forget, SoCal is a desert after all and you can't stack millions of people in a desert and not expect to have problems. There are almost 40 million people living in the state with LA County hosting over 10 million (according to the US Census). I'm originally from CA but I moved away in 1995 when I joined the military. Every time I come back to visit (about every 3 years), I'm blown away on how crowded it is. Yet, I never hear about the issue of a bloated population and they're talking about building MORE HOUSING. Freeways will have to be 8 lanes in each direction. It will end up being like Mega City 1 in Judge Dredd.
@@commisaryarreck3974 now you don’t really believe that? The person who was in charge of the election in the last administration said it was the most secure election this country has had.Ask yourself, why in the last election it was suddenly fraud when in elections past there were none? A person with no integrity crying foul? Best beware of that person.
“It seems that people aren’t living their values”
And the understatement of the year award goes to…
Yep, in a "Christian" country theres nowadays no Discipline, Integrity, Morals, and Ethics. Now its all about choice and those who make their OWN choices get the outcomes they get.
They certainly aren’t voting their “values”
@@tougeruzbay America is NOT a Christian country. Antarctica is more of a Christian country.
Run run see liberal run when being sued for slander nyt czcams.com/video/hmRc4xtnhco/video.html
@@privacyandfreedom5344 Just because you don't like Christians, that doesn't mean that America isn't still a Christian country. America is bigger than you and your mates.
This is an incredible piece. Good work New York Times!
And if you actually talk to these Chicago residents, they will look you straight in the eye and tell you, "Well, how is it that the schools work in the burbs and not in the city, or south side" and then go and vote for Vallas....Without.Any.Shame.
"house the homeless, but not in my neighborhood"
-California
-Everywhere.
I lived on a street with 80-90% virtue signal sign ("in this house we....") coverage. A local moonbat was pushing for a homeless camp to be in the park nearby and our street facebook group exploded with discussion about why it is not a good idea and should be elsewhere etc. A conservative pointed out it was residents of another area pushing for it to be by us. Can't make this stuff up.
California isn't inundated with homeless because of housing. The homeless are coming to California for the same reason they are going to Seattle: They can camp on the street, buy drugs easily, use drugs openly, defecate on the street, and steal from businesses without fear of repercussions. There is a reason Walgreens is closing some of its stores in the Bay Area.
Doesn't help that other states literally funded one-way bus tickets to offload some of their homeless to CA...
NIMBY's
Here in europe we have in average 10 parties, all them totally different. In USA you only have 2 far right wing parties choices to vote.
"We want to help the poor ... I mean, we want other people to help the poor, but not us".
Well that’s socialism’s in a nut shell
We want the poor to be helped, but WE don't want to help the poor.
@@joshuatift4640 its really really not.
And, "We'll help the poor, as long as they're kept far away from my neighborhood."
@@AvgJane19 yes it is
Apparently the plantations didn’t disappear they were instead remodeled.
2 Years later it has only gotten worse... WE ARE DOOMED!
"Not in my backyard" is such a strong mentality...
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Totally agree and I've been saying this for so many years. Everyone wants to be part of making the world a better place as long as they don't have to pay for it or deal with it. Take immigration, if your a person who is REALLY for it then you would have absolutely no problem taking in a random family into your own home and paying for all of their needs as they get their life together. Unfortunately that is almost never the case.
Question - Why in this example do we assume immigrants are all poor though? Curious to hear how supporting immigration could not look like supporting both skilled labor (aka abolishing the visa lottery) and also benevolent visa issuances to refugee situations?
@@ParkerMiddleton Because practically everyone supports skilled labour immigration to ones country. Granted, I'm from Europe, so the situation with the visa thing is probably pretty different. I find it's not even worth discussing "skilled labour" here, because it has no actual relevance for the issue of mass migration. No one takes issue with it, because in the end, skilled labour goes where it wants to and contributes to society automatically. Because it's skilled labour. They labour. With skill.
What people practically mean when they say "immigration" here is either economic migration from poorer countries to wellfare states in general, or the concept of asylum being granted to economic migrants and/or refugees, by said states.
@@petebusch9069 LOL...immigrants come here to work. Every single credible study ever done shows that immigrants add to the economy. In fact, we started the ball rolling in the 40s and 50s with the Bracero Program, which was essentially a slave wage program for guest workers.
There’s no such thing as “not living our values.” If you aren’t living them, they aren’t your values. They are just talking points that help you feel better about not actually living them.
THIS
Absolutely spot on
Yeas and no. Some cricumstances do have a larger control over you.
If you're for example broke and untalented, you might have to work in an industry, that kills you from the inside (doing stuff against you inner moral compass). Just to survive.
100
Not a bad point.
Well done you two. This was so well presented and while I'm sure the so called "fact checkers" will try to feast on you two, I salute your courage in producing this op-ed. Thank you.
As long as we have a progressive tax code, I don’t have a problem with higher taxed peoples kids getting better education. Tax them at an equal percentage if you want equal schools.
Everyone is a bleeding heart until it becomes a "not in my back yard" moment. If you are going to be selfish, at least be honest about it.
Yep. I saw something about homelessness, and it changed my view on it. I have come to the conclusion that I would much rather look out my window and see a homeless shelter, or some type of assistance or charity, than look out my window, and see a homeless camp.
underrated comment. it's actually the root of many of our problems today
I'm not a bleeding heart. But I have helped numerous friends with a roof when they needed. I would not help a felon . Who would get away with it tho.. in case you don't know .. illegal immigration is a felony...
@@tobiasreaper3650 Go check out the piece on homelessness in Salt Lake City UT; or lack thereof. They actually went through the effort to do a Cost Benefit Analysis and found putting homeless in apartments was cheaper than letting them be on the streets/shelters. AND here's the best part, once the homeless got stable housing, they were able to get Jobs and become productive members of society instead of a drain. Seattle, Denver, LA; homelessness is rampant despite being "Progressive Liberal Cities".
It is FREE to reach down and pick up a piece of trash on the sidewalk or side of the road. I live in a nice neighborhood, but still, people throw trash out of their car window as they drive by. So my family picks up any trash that lands on our yard. I did the same WHEN I WAS RENTING. If people don’t want to live surrounded by trash, why not start by picking it up? Why expect someone else to do it? Have some pride in where you live, whether you own it or not. Poverty is largely a mindset. I know, because my family started out with nothing and rose above.
Coming from a progressive leftist, this kind of criticism of the American left is completely necessary. Continuing to just blame conservatives for everything that's wrong will not help anyone but liberals' egos. Good video!
Edit: No I am not a liberal or a democrat, I am well aware that is different from a progressive leftist. I'm not conflating these things, just pointing out something I see in both circles
will you still remain a progressive leftist? Knowing your supporting the exact opposite of the parties headlines, preachings?
@@DavySTUN You're looking at the beginnings of a red pill moment.
@@DavySTUN A leftist is very different from a democrat. Democrats are very mild conservatives lmao
@@DavySTUN Being a leftist does not equal being a big D Democrat.
@@TheKazzerscout "Being a leftist doesn't mean being a big D Democrat."
I'm sorry, I understand you may feel like you need to distance yourself from this. I'd like to point out some things (and I want you to understand I'm not coming after you, your beliefs, your political opinions or the merit of either.) This piece is underling something important that you may need to listen to. Areas that are primarily liberal leaning (or claim to be) don't hold up to those tenants of liberalism when it comes to their door. They want to claim these ideas, but never put the work in. Big D Democrats (not all but some) claim these ideas. Why?
Also, and this is just an aside for me, it's telling that "opinion" had to be plastered all over this video.
California: Let's build affordable housing while we make it insanely expensive and difficult to build anything!
Such disgusting hypocrites. They scream acusing you what their guilty of.
When Malcolm X and MLK Jr criticized the white liberal, this kind of analysis was also their vantage point. The hypocrisy, the blatant classism, rhetoric without substance, etc.
This is an ironic claim because the original quote is "white moderate", not white liberal. And it's probably convenient for you to misremember it as such, because the moderates are less NIMBy than the people on the "real left" who are more likely to oppose a affordable housing construction.
People hailed as some sort of working class heroes by the political outsider crowd (think Bernie and friends) have opposed construction of affordable homes over made up "gentrification" fears, or complaining about "neighborhood character" like (robert reich did).
This extends all the way to pop culture figures who like to posture themselves as anti mainstream (recently Dave Chappelle who specifically opposed just the affordable part of a construction project near his home).
Or take the case of a columbia professor who likened an affordable housing contruction to colonialism because, get this, it was gonna built in place of a private dog park.
Now-a-days its the moderate who can be trusted to support the pragmatic solution, hear and now.. rather than make infinite purity tests and fault every solution like the "real left'.
@@psd993 no they said white liberals one google search will prove you wrong 💀 lemme guess ur a white “liberal” like the people in this vid describe???
You're correct, but i hope you understand that these criticisms are coming from a leftists perspective, not a conservative one.
I wish I have heard every word Malcolm X had said when I first immigrated in this country.
It's a front. Compassion in these people are just a false emotion to the onlookers in order to be seen as good.
“How does California do when it comes to housing?”
*cries in Californian*
He said that as I read this...spooky.
you voted for it...cope
@@Melkor54 How would you know? I live in a red state, but I know a lot of blue voters. It works in reverse too.
Can't build public housing without money. Few jobs with the worst economy under Trump since the Great Depression. Few jobs...no pay and taxes collected. At the federal level the few had tax breaks so they pay few taxes too. They have bought stock up in their corporation instead of giving workers raises, benefits, etc. The rich at the top have it all. The bottom working class have almost nothing.
It's not just California, it's every state.
Not want to live in a hive, like an insect is not hypocrisy, it is being free.
Outstanding video. Thank you for exposing these people for what we all knew they were.
now what
"I love poor people, I just don't want them living anywhere near me."
-- Champagne liberals
and by poor, they mean minorities.
This is 100% correct
Wrong title. It's limousine liberals, champagne socialists and gulfstream environmentalists.
@@stachowi Oh, I think that includes all the poor, regardless of race. Can you really imagine poor whites being welcome there? The really poor some call "white trash"? No way would they want those people either.
So you would rather the rich people not be pushing for policies that would be helping the poor? I'm not really sure how people are trying to draw such a distinct hypocrisy because poor areas are typically higher rates of crime, correct?
"Not in my neighbourhood" is the battle cry of hypocrites.
Its the battle cry of progressives
@@Artifex_Prudens
Same thing. :)
@Liam McNeill
If all of that is true then yes it would be hypocritical to complain about welfare while receiving the lions share of it. You see I don't mind saying that is hypocritical because I have principles and won't be blinded by red vs blue tribal nonsense. Interestingly you very much seem to have assumed I would act that way, which suggests a great deal about your mindset rather than my own.
Even so this seems unrelated to my original point. Although if you want his argument then I should point out the way the figures are presented can make it appear red states take more than they put in and vice-versa. You can take it as a whole, per capita, base it on personal income ratios, then you have certain cities (New York) which have a massive financial services industry which has been there for a hundred years and so no matter who runs the place it's going to have a disproportionate tax production etc etc.
I would suggest you read multiple sources before accepting the one you like the most as it's a far more complex calculation than you believe it to be.
@Liam McNeill
"The Hill" did a good breakdown of why the figures are not quite as simple as you claim. Although I have some issues with how they presented some of the details as well.
Either way your original upset was due to my use of the word hypocrite and I stated that if your argument is correct then I condemn those states for taking so much welfare. That means I'm not a hypocrite so I won't stop throwing around the word when it applies. This is what it means to have principles, I have no time for the red vs blue tribalism which you seem to be taking part in.
What surprised me most was that anybody dared to say this! Thanks. Very good video.
This was incredibly well done. Thank you for breaking this topic down so clearly.
Now this is called journalism. Asking questions to the powerful, whoever that is.
@chabingsta 🥴
@chabingsta sorry you must be lost, this isn't facebook
@chabingsta how is pointing out hypocrisy pulling liberals further left you sausage
@@SuperBuster3000 These are criticisms to the democrats from the left, that's how.
@@abdmzn So only other parties can criticize each other? Democrats/Republicans can't acknowledge their own faults?
Wow. Just wow. An actual investigative journalism piece. This is fantastic.
I don't trust NY Times.
Johnny Harris is great. NYT? Not so much.
@@FAITHandLOGIC hear hear
@@wandasewell4501Same, I believe they are switching there tone now because of the gigantic losses dems are facing across the country. Either way good video
The only way NYT would ever publish something like this is if it were coming from libs like the ones who made this video. Guarantee they wouldn’t publish an opinion piece that makes very similar points from the right. The right has been saying similar things for years, btw. I wish they’d have covered the homelessness, as well. They raise tons and tons of money for the homeless, but it’s just never even used for the homeless. Sure wish I knew what they really used that money for. 😑
It never occurred to the people who made this video that it might be immoral to take the money from one county without their consent and give it to another one. It's bad enough paying higher taxes, without having the money exported to a place you don't even live.
Hey I’m not liberal at all, but I wouldn’t like skyscrapers in my city too. I like it how it is, without the frenzy that a high density city could bring. I like my neighborhood like this too, with single family houses
“Yes we should protect the environment, we should build affording housing, we should have universal health care, we should fix the inequality gap; so long as my lifestyle is not affected .”
🐑
Yeah, but everyone complains about taxes, so no.
I think this position is ethically acceptable as long as it is clearly stated.
@@ibraheemkhan6660 It's ethically acceptable to try to force other people to do what you aren't willing to?
@@ibraheemkhan6660 and that is the liberal hypocrisy outlined in the video. "I want these things for our collective good, but am not willing to personally sacrifice for these things. Other people should do it instead. I am still more ethical than the people who don't want these things, even if our actions 100% align."
‘The more expensive the neighborhood , the more funded the school’. The moment I understood this in childhood was the second I realized politics isn’t real and only money is.
Bingo. It's the same everywhere. I'm thinking of Madoff and how he was surrounded by wealth but not a part of it. It shaped him. He wanted that life. He wanted to be a member of the country clubs. I don't blame him for that nor do I excuse what he did later on. He had the legitimate trading / market making business but it was, somehow, a money loser. He wanted more.
Best conment yet!
Politics is about gaining yourself.
May be in America. Here in Germany all schools get the same funding and you can enrol your child in any school in your county. Plus University is free. So these are definitely political decissions that can be changed.
Exactly.
@@mariogirod6195 exactly. Thank you. It's possible and okay for things to be different.
Well done Johnny for having the courage to cover this. I came from England with centerist type views more in line with the left over here. I live in Oregon and I soon saw the difference from what the leadership says to what it does. Now align differently but like most people centerist is probably a better term