The Decline of Policing in Britain | Melanie Phillips
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- In this clip, journalist Melanie Phillips takes aim at the decline in standards among the police force in her native Britain. Amidst (groundless) accusations of institutional racism, Melanie argues that the Metropolitan Police in particular has 'fallen apart' - with general demoralisation, inneffectiveness and warped priorities commonplace.
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Melanie's column currently appears in The Times, but over the years she has been published by the Guardian, Observer, Sunday Times and Daily Mail. She also writes for the Jewish Chronicle and Jewish News Syndicate.
Her best-selling book Londonistan, about the British establishment’s capitulation to Islamist aggression, was published in 2006 by Encounter, New York. She followed this in 2010 with The World Turned Upside Down: the Global Battle over God, Truth and Power, and in 2018 with her first novel, The Legacy. This is the third time she and John have sat down to talk.
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As a builder for fifty years I have worked for educated people and and believe me an education DOES NOT GIVE YOU INTELLIGENCE.
Exactly what I've been saying, educated idiots is what's running this country, in every establishment from the Government, NHS, police, absolutely the whole country. Our sovereignty is gone and the boundaries that we did have are now gone. At 63 years of age it saddens me to see such a horrible and dysfunctional country.
You are there to be educated and not to be intelligent. Real intelligence is what you do actually, a work that you will be doing for a long time and this is safety. Some organizations must stay neutral and police are one of them.
Yep, you only have to look at our MPs, and the mess they have all made of this Country, to realise the truth of that statement.
Even genuine intelligence doesn't guarantee integrity...
So true! Having a degree or doctorate from a higher education system does not necessarily mean that you have been blessed with a surfeit of common sense! On the contrary, it’s quite usually the exact opposite!
It's not the 'decline' of policing in the UK - it's a complete 'collapse' - They have stopped fighting crime and have become the 'Thought Police', concerned only with complaint about 'hurt feelings' and 'wrong think' - It's a cruel world.
Here to.🇦🇺🦘👍
They reached unparalleled heights arresting anyone during the lockdowns
They never did fight crime effectively,
go back crime stats from the past in the 90s, way higher than it is now
@@bryanlatimer-davies1222 Very well said.
Oh, you said it well, mate. Spot on! My thoughts exaclty.
I'm a retired police officer and I broadly agree with Melanie Phillips. Whilst serving I once wrote to her, I believe, in her Daily Mail years about police decline (and received a reply). The rot set in during the Blair years and has been going downhill ever since. I tend to agree with her on most of what she says and writes. The police are now a woke, politically correct organisation and it only takes one generation to lose what remained of solid policing forever.
Well said. I did exactly that.
Another aspect of policing gone wrong is the majority of policing is driving around in cars and vans. The days of getting to know a Bobby on the beat engaging politely with the people of the area has gone and made them unreachable. There's a distance between them and the communities including the unfortunate stab proof vests which is itself another barrier. All by design I'm sure .They seem to be more of a paramilitary force roaming around in vehicles ready to pounce. It's really gone down the pan. I suspect in the near future facial recognition will be rolled out to help policing. I hope I'm wrong.
@@terryreknaw6152 Thanks to multi-culturalism society now has competing morals and so called minority groups get their morals protected more. This has led to an upswing in crime overall and the police don't have the numbers to patrol on foot. They need to be mobile to cover the huge area that crimes are likely to occur in. Given too the politically correct form of policing on the ground it's probably best they're in their cars and not harassing innocent people based on an anonymous complaint about language being used.
When it comes to harassing people for woke agendas the cops will threaten or arrest average citizens over a complaint about things said but they will not do the same when the average person makes a complaint about one of the myriad protected groups. Complaints only go one way and certain people are allowed to be offended while others are protected by the police.
As stated in the video the police are now overly sourced from universities and minority backgrounds which means they less and less represent the average Briton. The stab proof vests are needed thanks to the aforementioned multi-culturalism and overall lack of public decency.
you did what you where told all your life, not what you needed to do to preserve what your country had... good male, failed man.
just like my grandpa... said our village would never get any infrastructure in his lifetime. I fixed it all up to modern standards in a ways he said was impossible. He still alive to be grumpy about what's in place today... the only thing left he complain about is the uncontrolled immigration, I might go ahead and fix that soon as well.
Same with the NHS sadly....
When I joined the Met in 1971 , we were a force, who policed with a police station in every town, we also provided a service, lost and found property, alarms, keyholders and a whole lot more. Then it changed to a police service with fancy logos on car doors. It stopped providing a service. Along came Teresa May, the decimater of the Met. Senior officers of the old school retired and were replaced by high flying university graduates who had no clue on Policing in practice. Police stations were sold off, and withdrew from the public .Media scrutiny became intense and now everyone films everyone else.Respect was lost and crime flourished , Courts became ineffective relying more on the defence argument that the suspect was a cheeky boy, and the CPS only prosecuted when a high threshold was met. Will common sense ever prevail with all public services now in decline ,I doubt it without firm resolve
Correct, when it went from a "Force" to a "Service" they became social workers in uniform. I recall a glaring example of a so-called high flyer, a female graduate who was promoted to the rank of Assistant Chief Constable within 4 years of joining despite never having made an arrest in her career!
As a retired Surrey police officer I agree 100%. It was/is not just the Met , it's national. With entry now thro a ridiculous woke university degree course and recruitment (and subsequent promotion) selection by "ethnicity, diversity and inclusion" rather than merit, what do you expect?
London Met, SPG Disbanded, the new TSG formed , some members of the SPG were not invited to stay with the TSG which become more of a riot type squad but did continue to sort out crime in various locations in London. That same TSG now are identified as taking the knee in support of BLM while the Inspector just stands by. In my opinion The Police are now taking orders from Political masters pushing their agenda . Yours old one unit.
The nhs is the same.
You were victim of what Thomas Sowell calls The Vision of The Anointed
Well said. The lunatics are running the asylum!
The disgust, distrust and hatred for the police is far larger than I thought I would ever see. Thought policing and collecting revenue from motorists is all you can expect nowadays.
No mention of Couzens and Carrick.
The police of today are a very different entity than when I was a child.
Today, we see guys on motorcycles, no helmet, balaclava, just wheeling down the street, weaving in and out of traffic, and the police do nothing. The argument goes, if they pursue them, they might fall off and hurt themselves because of the lack of a helmet.
They are frequently reported as just not bothering to turn up to burglaries, and when they do, it's only to give a crime number and recommend the owner get better CCTV and alarm systems.
We watch protestors disrupt traffic, which is illegal, and the police do nothing. When a member of the public tries to remove them, they are arrested.
When I was a child, those bikers would have been pursued, caught, and dealt with. Burglaries were taken seriously, as the police already knew the local scallywags, and would go and shake their tree. Protestors disrupting traffic would have been hauled off the road and processed at the station.
I don't know what changed, but the difference is that police used to do their job.
It's the broken window scenario come to fruition. The police no longer care about ordinary law abiding people, that's simply the truth. Well I'm sure some do and find it frustrating as we do but it's still the truth.
And that the west was not yet communist.
too meny women in force edjucated woke ones are higer ups and are more concerned about criminal than vic and lower ranked women are fysicly in capable to lay down law so focus on twitter feuds
Guys on motorcycles weaving in and out of traffic while police do nothing. Are you sure you are not talking about the United States? My wife and I were on an overnight out of town trip about 80 miles from where we live and we saw this repeatedly.
@@francisebbecke2727 It could happen in both countries Francis.
Melanie Phillips delivers joyous clarity in these matters.
Joyous? I would say depressing clarity, not joyous. 😄😥
It will take another lifetime to regain the respect the police have lost from the normal British public
It might take another 1500 years, especially if the decline of society becomes too great (like what we saw with the Roman empire). Strong social mores can once again emerge through the ashes of chaos - of collapse and decay given enough time. But first we must witness a truly barbarous era of humanity, with the population descending into a feral state, living wild like ravenous wolves, and causing untold devastation to the works and achievements of their ancestors. Once all good things have burnt to a cinder, once the last modern building in Britain has collapsed to rubble, once we are all living no better than people wearing rags of the Dark Ages, only then may we start again anew.
@@VOLightPortal For a moment I thought this was one of my old comments I had forgotten about and sometimes come across, some years later. It looks like, as I am, you study and know your history because I often cite the rise and fall of the Roman Empire in that we may not be bloodthirsty citizens watching gladiators hack at each other but when you look at our films and sports i.e. MMA we are not far off the same. Your point about descending into a feral state we are 'certainly' seeing every year as the days of law and order totally go and as is happening now good citizens are becoming prey to those who in our history who have always existed and will always be. Sad but true !!
Darling, I'll be surprised if we have another four years left for this nation!
I remember the 1st time I was in England 🇬🇧 in 1973 (edited:1979) and last time I was there in 2011, I just couldn't believe the change in policing there...It's absolutely sad to see!!!
The Police do a great job of protecting criminals from harm or injury they need protection in order to carry on with affecting innocent people’s lives
I believe the role of the police changed once we adopted ‘care in the community’ and encouraged mentally unwell people to live (miserably) in unsupported conditions because there was insufficient infrastructure in place, care of these people fell to the police service, who were totally unprepared and untrained. I was a mental health nurse for 47 years and witness this transition and my daughter and her partner are police officers. The majority of the work that the police deal with is mental health and social care issues. My daughter says that the public essentially police themselves, which is ok in a society which has morals, unfortunately we don’t have morals or shame or social conscience anymore.
Didn't the Human Rights Act 1998 require a change to the oath sworn by police officers, such that they must uphold human rights? Could it be that this is why they refuse to move on protestors like "Just Stop Oil", which leads to public order problems as the right to protest trumps the laws on obstruction?
Care in the community was a word made up by the government so they could shut down the hospitals where these people needed help so the government could save money if you believe that
Both these comments I can 100% agree with.
@@jona826 don't ones rights end when they intentionally encroach on other's?
I totally agree with the first two comments. At the same time we have had a huge increase in immigration from countries which have radically different social norms and extremely harsh police and legal systems (if and when they function at all). The a small segment of the immigrants then view our system as a joke and do whatever they please.
A recipe for disaster.
All the best.
No normative boundaries... is the definition of multiculturalism.
Once Blair switched the title Police Force to Police Service, then it all went down hill.
He was the one that promoted Common Porpoise into the workings of all public services and primarily the police services.
@@hittitecharioteer Yes! He certainly was! That Blair creature is responsible for an awful lot of what we see materializing today. The legislations they push through doesn't bear fruit until a good 10 - 20 years after it has been passed. A lot of people fail to realize this, instead they blame the current government of the day. Though this "Conservative" party have been an absolute disaster for the UK. I detest them.
The constables oath was changed in 2002 I believe. Plod these days seems to be scruffy ( PSNI excluded) slobs. Lack of leadership is one of the problems.
No he's correct it is a civil service not a armed force! The problem is they think they are a woke army on our streets
@@markadams738 but crime was higher per capita in the 90s, cops are just bad at their job globally lol
I called the police to report a crime a month ago and i was detained in cuffs for over an hour in a total farce where the police tried to invent potential crimes , including having a fake ID, being escaped from prison and all kinds of mad rubbish, they coulnt be reasoned with and were devoid of any common sense, like robots, also one was deliberately trying to antagonise me , staring at me aggressively trying to get a reaction and an arrest. I am a veteran and their little childish games didnt bully me, i have nothing but contempt for them now. Stay away away from these idiots is my advice.
That's astonishing.
Nah it’s becoming normal
For many, still, it's all about power being a corrupting thing. They prefer to turn up mob-handed & overwhelm even little old ladies with absurd numbers, handcuffing behind back etc "because they can" and then youths go rioting in Cardiff. The routine abuse of police's force-capabilities to ensure zero risk of having to do real policing "seems" to have gotten worse, in spite of bodycams etc. At least Cressida "No one likes us, we don't care" has gone 🙂probably on some inflated payout ?
Could you please expand on your story, it’s a little confusing. Ta.
couldn't agree more.
A extra 600,000 people coming in every year with no increase in any services.
Not all, but many, with the rest keeping quiet: 1) They knelt to criminals 2) They pranced about in pink and rainbow colours, 3) they recruited based on sexuality and colour alone.
That, was the END of proper policing.
I was a copper in a northern pit village for 30 years and I saw the beginning of the decline and the introduction of the woke cobblers. When I retired, I got a job at a university as a linguistics lecturer because I have a PhD and I discovered that higher education is even more wrecked by woke.
I’m from the dark side of criminal law. You must have worked up in Durham. You would be interested to know that all of the custody suites are closing with one huge centralised station to open in Spennymoore. Following Cleveland’s example (idiotic).
@@paxbritannica5598 Nah, I was in Yorkshire, but I agree that closing custody suites is absolutely idiotic.
Well said. I doubt this can ever be reversed. The country is ultimately doomed.
The UK is the new Yugoslavia
Third world trash insures it. As Obama said, fundamental change is necessary.
I said in a previous post above that I will be surprised if the nation as we now know it even has four years left. The recent TikTok crimes and the distrust in policing and government in its entirety since Covid (Convid) have really crippled this country. Lawlessness is rampant and education is almost corrupt as the police and government. It's all going to crumble. It has to.
She speaks a lot of sense.
The police force in this country is appalling such a low standard of characters employed. There is too much box ticking going on.
you're missing the bigger picture like most reactionary clowns
Melanie Philips has long been one of the sharpest minds in UK journalism.
Wise woman
The decline in happening across the West/ Global American Empire.
It is interesting about "boundaries" that it can also be equated with being "oppressed", yet our societies would not have progressed and developed to the extent that they have without "boundaries". Limits especially on the destructive parts of human behaviour.
I would agree.
'By causing severall good Subjects being Protestants to be disarmed at the same time when Papists were both Armed and Imployed contrary to Law.'
Remember when general duties officers did not, nor need to carry firearms and states could not raise armed forces or standing armies in times of peace?
@@ministeroffice9251and your point is?
Having boundaries goes much further than being able to use lethal force. We set boundaries in relationships, with children, with friends. From what I recall the Police in Britain in the past were not armed and compare that to America where the Police are armed.
No boundaries and no borders.
@@damo5701 and nothing to control or limit human behaviour
As a retired operational police Sergeant, I believe the police service should be: 1. A national force with several policing areas set up across the country i.e. the SW, SE, NE identified and led by a Chief Constable who are accountable to the senior Chief Constable of the UK. Note, the position of Police and Crime Commissionaires to be removed .2. Police recruitment more stringent in terms of the application process and assessments. 3. Police training establishments re- introduced for new recruits, with a programme including not only the theory of the law and procedures, but emphasise on practical policing skills, discipline and policing standards. 4. Leadership training college for middle and senior management set up on similar lines to the armed forces i.e. Sandhurst, Cranwell and Dartmouth. 5. Create Police Reservists who get paid a yearly bounty, similar to military reservist. Again selection and training to be reviewed with the emphasis on not only learning law and procedures, but on policing standards and discipline. Leadership is the key, and the ideas that I have mentioned above would improve the way we police in the UK.
Very sound: if only...
@@emlynjay8633 The trouble is it is too political for whoever is in power to change things.
It will get more woke to save it from n toxic masculinity as it hires thousands of redundant soldiers in a couple of years to be armed and work in riot police for coming social unrest
What is the point of police reservists?
@@jujutrini8412 To support the regular police officer, especially in public events and weekends when public order incidents occur.
What an analysis.
Melanie gets right to the heart of the matter.
Universities are not just advanced subject schools; they create a mindset based on fey Bloomsbury principles: liberalism gone mad, relativism above reality and disdain for both upper and working classes.
A blurred way of life.
woke dont despise higher classes they work for em
no she doesn't, she's there to make sure nobody talks about the real reasons for the prolbems.
See Yuri Bezmenov - demoralisation has another meaning, one far more worrying.
"Melanie gets right to the heart of the matter. " oh lol, and you actually believe that?
hilarious
@@axeman2638 explain youre disagreement
That image of the London Bobbie with a dark, serious uniform, and helmet was a worldwide symbol of law and order. It was an especially important model for those of us in the United States are used to be an ultimate respect for police officers in England, and by extension around the western world. There was integrity and strength and character in the English policeman. It is all faded away, now lost in the shuffle of political correctness, wokeness and the stifling culture of the left.
You're a fool, check crime stats in the 90s, higher than it is now per capita, muh woke is an issue but don't put it down to this
@Denise Bond In that Golden Age when the law was more completely what the rozzer decided on the spot ... the best you could hope for was he lived in your local small town or village. So he wouldn't abuse it or his kids might get a kicking at the local school. And a brick through their cheap-rent house window.
@Denise Bond, they do still recruit from veterans; from where did you get that idea?
When I joined in 1971 in the West end ,we walked ,11 walking beats ,we knew everyone and were a visible presence in the STREET, where the job gets done
@@colinnewmarch1106 Your service is much appreciated officer!
Thank you dear Melanie for speaking up for the street preachers. There face daily persecution.
And the police arrest them and not the perpetrators. Blessings 😊♥️🙏
She nailed it.
Never serviced in the police but as a 74 year old have seen the downward spiral of respect from Joe Public, the cause appears to be political wokeness from the senior ranks. Had 17 years in the army you had mutual respect up and down the rank structure, vital for any uniformed force, hope the police can regain this.
That's probably the best assessment about the state of Policing and society that I've heard summed up in 6 minutes.
Spot on
As a recipient of negative policing, I agree in part . I would say though that the criminal justice system in it's entirety is corrupt and incompetent 🤦🤷🙅
Tyranny of whatever self-designated minority position --- not referring here to the traditional understanding of "minority", but to the minority attitudes of self-righteous bullies. Unfortunately, "normative" has become what the noisiest "victims" declare it to be ----- and woe betide anyone who insists on facts, rationality, merit, fairness, and earned respect. The bar has been dropped on toes.
It's a case of the tail wagging the dog.
And the complaints process panders to the minority at
And the complaint’s process at every level completely panders to the minority.
As Dirty Harry says in one of those 1970s movies, “by ‘minorities’ you mean ‘the hoods’”.
@@extremeways2930 It's like the Chinese Cultural "Devolution" visited upon formerly rational societies.
Melanie Phillips talks sense.
In my town someone broke into the police station and stole all the toilets!! A police spokesperson said "we have absolutely nothing to go on!"
😂
While traveling from London transportation or following my usual route,
Multiple times i was tried to be assaulted unprovoked by unruly people and majority times they were rowdy black African descent people.
Despite MET statistics having data of high crime rates of people from same background,
Many times police seems either afraid to take actions, too slow or too incompetent.
And in the other cases instead of removing stop oil loonies from road, police stupidly watch the spectacle and don't remove them immediately from the middle of the road.
It's seriously a sad state of policing in London.
They've become so scared of being accused of being racist,that they the usual suspects get away with anything
Well said Melanie , if only we could find a way to reverse it .
What police? I haven't seen a copper on the ground in my area for god knows how long, and my council tax has gone up to pay for them !!
Much of what she identified has been happening across the globe. Here in the USA, the last three years have seen conditions reach crisis levels in major cities. Although some pockets of sanity exist, it seems that it’s only a matter of when - not if - the insanity and dysfunction engulfs the entire country. 😱
I watched a programne about the police service. A young keen policeman was interviewed, and he said he'd joined to "catch villains". That summed up the problem for me, because the first and prime roll of "policing" (as in the verb to "police") is to control and maintain order. At community level that ethos has evaporated. The visible presence of officers to control and maintain order is a thing of the past. Putting two officers together in a car as a visible presence doesn't work because, A; they will chat to each other, not observe the neighbourhood, and B; their mindset is altered to being a "response" resource, i.e. using blue lights and sirens to catch criminals in the act. Policing needs to return to the idea of visibly monitoring an area, getting to know it, and thus preventing crime. But I suspect that is now merely a pipe dream. As a parting shot, I do not believe CCTV is a adequate replacement for visible "policing".
Nicely put, I remember our policemen in my village growing up, they were actually decent bobbies who interacted with members of the public in a decent way, sadly now this is clearly not the case with their over inflated egos etc, it's a shame for the good ones out there as they are sadly tarred with the same brush.👍
Main problem with policing is poor tactics, high visibility does work, but they just drive spend all day aimlessly, you have to park up and be stationary all over the city, that way would be criminals are deterred because they know there's cops around every corner
I don't think the top wants order. With disorder, comes more laws and less Freedom in the name of safety and societal stability. I've been scratching my head wondering why the Establishment are actively promoting chaos on the streets (see George Floyd summer of riots). It only makes sense if they want strife, they want the "extreme right" as the bogey man to control "disinformation" and shutdown bank accounts.
No but cctv is excellent at high volume production of fines for 'offenders' who can be readily identified... like ordinary Joe who bought his own car, hes easy to control, and send fines to.
‘Control and maintain order’ = ‘catching villains’. You mad?
I came off Armed Response in 2010 and went on Neighbourhood Policing. They gave me a pushbike and told me “Old style Policing is what the Public Want”. I gave them that and got 10 complaints in the first few months. Every one was upheld against me. My female Sergeant told me to be nicer. I didn’t change my approach and I reduced anti social behaviour throughout the three areas of my patch. The worst thing ever was allowing people to make complaints when they don’t get their own way. People don’t follow rules, boundaries and limitations anymore. They think they can do whatever they want and there will be no comeback. Well that didn’t work for them on my,patch! If they stepped over the line, they copped a fine or worse. And guess what. Mr and Mrs Normal loved it.
Australian police TASER 95 year old dementia patient in her room at an aged care facility. The 43 kg lady fell off her walking fram and fractured her skull, passing away from her injuries 3 days later. She had a steak knife from the dining room, she used it to process apples better than her dentures.
In Britain 5 officers turn up to confiscate black faced dolls from a middle aged woman because a member of the public was offended. They bagged them all up and took them away, only to return them the next day when they found out owning them was not a crime. 😂😂
What a smart women. Ive spent 23 years in the NSW Police and what she is saying has been happening here. Not to the British extent, but we will get there.
This is the most well clarified, terrifying insight into what has happened that I have heard to date. Thank you. It is horrifying but this is the new reality we must come to terms with in Britain today.
In Britain. It's been worse in France since... For ever... Although we have had our ups and downs, who collaborated with the invading Germans during WW2? Yes the police. They are well known pimps, drug dealers and traffickers, wife batterers. Chose to keep quiet knowing the dishonesty of individual politicians or entire parties, they take the tax payers money alright but refuse to stand by the taxpayer in time of oppression and tyranny and stick to France 's "droit de l'homme" our legal formal lawful constitution. People ignore them now totally.
Since Blair I ceased to see police on the beat in Scotland, they seem to go like their french counterparts ill informed, Ill informed and poorly educated, my nephew in France now a Gendarme in Paris is a racist, bigot, narrow minded arrogant lad of 29, he was multi lingual till he joined the police, he has a degree in management and strategic affairs! Like friends in Scotland who are in police he has no interests outside the job, no understanding of politics and national affairs, cannot see links in history and today's world.
Brilliantly described Melanie. That’s exactly what has happened.
This is why I tell people to take care of things themselves. The police are not going to come, and if they do, you’ll be given a crime number and you’ll never hear anything again. Deal with it in the moment and you’ll never have an issue.
The only issue you will have is when the police turn up to arrest you for infringing the offender’s rights.
@@Spiderwebsider dont worry about it. They’ll only show up if you post online.
Sounds like she talking about Australia
@@christopherludlam1602 So true, absolutely DISGUSTING.
We in the UK saw what was going on in Australia.. I was thankful that my son and his wife came home just days before lock down. It was criminal what they did to their citizens.
Its purposeful. Its known as 'Anarcho - Tyranny'.
Start with a corrupt British bureaucracy. And you can forget about the British Police.
If you express opinions you are accused of causing "Harassment, alarm or distress"...something police trot out to shut people up, arrest them, intimidate. So many videos on CZcams where they falsely do this.
Only this morning I came across this. czcams.com/video/vtlMs02qD9s/video.html
watched Vidio and saw some local Karen Butting in and causing Trouble and calling the police to back them up, and getting Nothing but a crowd of people watching Him Preach the Gospel !?
As a retired police officer who served for over 30 years from 1972 I full agree with this wise woman.
Well said.
When they started calling it a 'service' that was when it all started going downhill.
Today in Britain everything is policed except crime!
Very well said a true word
Brilliant summary, facilitated by a senior interviewer who knows when to let an intelligent observer speak freely.
I am a retired Officer who was appointed in the 70's, which might as well be a hundred years ago in terms of how Policing has changed. I go back to the days of walking the beat, but I am convinced that the idea that this somehow defeated crime was a myth, it simply did not, it was a feel good pill.
Policing has changed massively but then so has society, the kinds of demands on Police now is many times more than in my day, and the resources are simply not there.
The critically important leadership ranks of Sergeant and Inspector who should be setting examples, teaching, nurturing and leading by example find this hard to do because they're glued to a computer reviewing crime reports and other documentation, the bureaucracy is out of control. In my day for example the Sergeant attended incidents with us, took charge, led and ensured things were done correctly and if not make sure it was. Basics, simple and so important. I could go on for ages but suffice it to say the problems in Policing today can be traced back to the loss of those "basics".
Something I was taught when I first joined was the definition of a Constable and it has wedged itself in my memory since "A Constable is a Citizen, locally appointed, having powers under the Crown for the protection of life and property, the prevention and detection of crime, the maintenance of order, and the prosecution of offenders against the peace". Simple isn't it?
Somebody who is speaking the truth for once such-and-such a breath of fresh air respect to this lady what a woman
Melanie Phillips: acute social observer and truth teller. A seriously profound thinker and commentator.
Someone needs to put a stop to the wearing & desecrating of the Union Jack Flag on their uniforms...We as taxpayers don't pay them to DESECRATE the flag it is disgusting
Sounds like Police in U.S. the last 3 years.
Melanie has an extraordinary intellect & an amazing grasp of social & political trends. Best to listen for all our benefits!
Melanie phillips is spot on .
Pretty accurate assessment I’d say having served in the Met for 30 years.
All security services have been politicized. They serve government and not the citizen.
I would add; what a Grand Lady. She is contemporary elegance...
Absolutely spot on.
Police should SERVE, not intimidate, bully and choose which crimes are worth prosecuting.
The decline in the police started when enrolment criteria was lowered and wages and standards have followed
Brilliant Melanie Phillips
Some time ago there was a long-standing TV show called The Bill. Towards the end it left policing behind and focussed on relationships and other things. Probably this reflected the actual police force and who were being targeted for recruitment.
The same has happened with the Judiciary.Someone wants a complete breakdown of our Country.
Well done for stating the obvious.!
I saw a video recently where protesters had blocked a public highway and a citizen got fed up and started removing them. The police, who had been just standing there eating donuts, suddenly pounced on the man like he was Guy Fawkes. That said everything.
How do the police prevent crime? Isn’t that presumption of guilt?
Ive always admired melanie Phillips she is the female equivalent of Jordan Peterson..all you get is pure sense and rationality.
Hi Paul. I agree.
You must be a simpleton then,,, v crime was higher per capita in the 90s, explanation needed
the police service of britain started its decline when it stopped promotion through the ranks and replaced it with hiring gradates straight from university into senior positions and as we have seen the universities have gone woke and its now infected all the public services
Absolutely spot on
The 'long march through the institutions' !!!!!
Completely correct.
Totally agree with All of what you've said.
There are many reasons that contribute to why the police are held with such contempt and it mostly comes down to recruitment and training. Recruitment has been hi jacked by diversity. Entrance standards have been slashed to accommodate people of lower educational standards. The training is skewered towards today's woke agenda and crazy tolerance and promotion of fringe lifestyles to the exclusion of Policing by enforcing the LAW as it exists. ONE big example is the current policing of demonstrations ------- the police have totally coped out of all their responsibilities for no reason - they have all the powers to deal with the protesters but REFUSE to use them WHY ?? SO the answer is the police overall have gone crazy woke and are loving it - after all because of the recruiting standard being lowered many are of the same crazy social opinion and are allowed to exercise those standards instead of doing the job -- no one like the Home Secretary holds them in contempt .................... The police have seriously lost their way and with the senior officers of to day and cowardly Home Secretary's they will never change -- they have become used and comfortable with their new NON POLICING role and have no embarrassment or consequences for their FAILURE OF PROVIDING BASIC POLICING.
It's no longer the 'Police Force', employing tough ex military. It's now the police service and all entry requirements have been reduced.
Yesterday I was enjoying a meal with my wife in a local restaurant when two police officers walked past. One was a tiny frail looking girl and the other was a very short slighlybuilt male who looked like a school boy wearing an adults over sized uniform. The two of them looked more comical than authoritative, what a sad state of affairs. Its no wonder crime is spiralling out of control when school children lookalikes are employed to enforce the law.
They have fallen apart as I was locked in my home and forced sexually by a police officer who was left in his job, I don’t hate them I don’t understand why this was done. I have just got my friend who’s a retired policeman through cancer, I prayed, fasted day and night for him, he is making a full recovery. I came from a policing family,I wish they would root out the bad police and look after the good police and their families.
Wonderfully eloquent
Do the powers that be actually realise the lack of confidence ,respect and the outright contempt the public currently have for the police. They are getting involved in every current politically correct bandwagon except actual police work.
Yesterday on a council estate in Edinburgh, the police locked down residents in their home because they heard that someone was hurt somewhere, the police was armed. It transpires that they had their facts wrong.
I hope the residents will lodge a formal complaint and seek redress , this was a dreadful overreach of duties, a utter overreaction. Shocking behaviour. This means that people's trust and respect is again dented, it add a layer of fear too just like we known historically in despotic regimes: Russia with its KGB, Germany with its Stasi for example or in Spain during and after the civil war.
The main purpose of incarceration is to prevent them committing crimes on people whilst there it protects the public.
I did 20 yrs in the Met from the 80's after a career in the Navy. The decline for me was a Commisioner agreeing with the Honme Office to brand 30,000 Cops + thousands of civilians, racist. A total disgrace. Add useless pen pushing senior officers climbing the greasy ladder & all the rest. A recipe for disaster & here we are 🤷♂️ Well said Melanie 👏
She is 100% right . A logical description of how expectations, standards of behaviour, accepted norms , have been stripped away because of fears of claims of discrimination and racism , with the result that misbehaviour from the Trivial right up to the Criminal becomes at first tolerated and then accepted, and Society disintegrates a little more each day. The return of the Cane in Schools and Capital Punishment for the worst murders would be 2 steps back in the right direction, but in the climate of Today will ( unfortunately IMHO ) never happen.
And another thing is that it’s not a real police force anymore. So you don’t need an experienced person to run it. Any graduate can run it like just another entity. Into the ground
DECLINE ??? It is non-existent !!! I never see a policeman nor do I have a clue where to find one or even what to do if I need one ???
Melanie is always spot on
.shes a voice to listen to. A very educated and based lady with a wide knowledge of the truth.
it all boils down to 'anti-racism' and that stuff
Virtually the only time you see police, nowadays is when they driving at high speed somewhere.
You can place the blame squarely on the CPS Criminal Protection Service!
She needs funding and a good legal team to take this on.
Simply put, if you tolerate everything you will tolerate anything. Sometimes total freedom is not good for anyone involved.
Amazing. She gave a good speech about the decline of policing without using the word "woke" I didn't think that would be possible.
It’s like any public service, poorly managed whilst our population swells.
Sad but so, very true, policing is now everything it should not be - politicised.