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Asmongold on why SoD is NOT great - Zábava
After you've done all the raids and have all the gear, everyone knows that PvP is the next step and the real end game :D
They should turn GDKP into an actual game mode that doesn't use gold but an alternative currency that makes doing raids and dungeons on repeat more fun but you can bid up your tokens at the end and split the pot. Like Justice tokens but there is a pot. And a shop like in WoTLK where you exchange them, and one of the items can be a bag of gold and gems.
U mean like dkp the thing gdkp was literally based off
If they can be purchased with real world money in any way, then the problem is the same. GDKP wasn't the problem, gold buyers were. GDKP was just an incentive to buy gold. Blizzard decided they didn't want to crack down on gold buyers because it would directly eat into their profits, so instead they cracked down on the incentive.
@@heroclix0rz It shocks me how so many people know the minus 50 dkp meme but don't actually know what dkp is. Dkp stands for dragon kill points the community agreed upon value for raid bosses and every raid boss killed would award you points (think logs but only for tracking kills and dkp and were generally only for your guild/partnered guilds) then items had base costs of dkp that you could buyout or bid war for. Basically so if I've spent 6 weeks raiding waiting for one item u don't have to rely on a RNG roll against the guy who's first week in the raid and can just buy the item
@@venumus1 If you can purchase "raid" tokens with gold or exchange them with players, it then has a gold value as well, and you are back at square one.
I wouldn't have touched SoD if not for the warlock tank or an actually raid viable 2h warrior build. The "weird specs" were the entire selling point
Yeah I was mad af p1 launch when devastate was changed from only requiring a melee weapon too def stance and a shield, was so ready for the rage dump devestate spam for 150% weapon DMG with no cd at lvl 25 in pvp and 2h tanking. But then I realized warriors are not allowed to have fun in sod your playing classic warrior with a few extra buttons and everyone else is playing lk/cata
Warlock/Shaman Tank was the greatest success of the new "specs" it works well, makes sense in the fact people used them in those roles back in vanilla and adds a new niche of a cloth/mail wearing tank. mage healer and rogue tank were a huge blunder however and a balancing nightmare. Rogue tank was never a thing it's only prior use was as a niche exploit by reaching 100% avoidance to tank Patchwerk. So now you have a tank that functionally is either absolutely broken and can never be hit by a boss or squishy and useless. Mage Healer isn't exciting or new it essentially just stole modern disc priests functionality of a damage dealing healer, and it doesn't even utilize +healing gear as a HEALER should, instead competing with the now already extremely competitive itemization of all other dps cloth wearers, and uses the same damage gear for all 3 specs the same way it is in retail... also I don't even need to mention the implications of a mage being able to heal in PvP where 30 second polymorphs exist. I'm glad they tried it though and I think we all knew in our heart of hearts SoD was just a glorified beta for the real upcoming Classic+ and I hope they're able to learn and take the best of SoD on over and leave the worst parts behind.
Just watch the whole video. This clip doesn’t isn’t a good one. Plus it’s easy content
Half the reason I play SoD is all the "weird specs".
I think that they're absolutely terrible for the game
I just wanna ask one question: How lang have you been playing World of Warcraft?
Ive played for decades at this point and i see the appeal because of that. But WoW needs new players, and to a new player that just makes no sense.
And SoD should, imho, be a way into the game for new players.
A game for someone that doesnt want to get into Retail due to how many things are in the game nowadays. All the Classes, Races, expansions are overwhelming new players i believe.
I see why you might like it, but i agree with SovereignVoid here that it is terrible for the game overall.
@@SovereignVoid Mage healer is a blast to play and very good. Cry more
@@SovereignVoidI am very hyped about rogue tank and I’m gonna blast on it.
Also, more tanks -> faster dungeon groups
Cry more
@@GamesPlayer1337 how does more options = keeps new players away from the game? By that logic they shouldn't play OSRS or FFXIV either because of all the content and options, or Baldur's gate 3, or Elden ring, or quite literally any RPG
should use the new currency, tarnished undermine real, as an auction bid loot system to be like gdkp but without the gold buying. If it has good value from vendors then its possible
Such a streamer take "i was a kid" ... not all of us were kids when vanilla wow came out. Lots of us like the game for what it is. No kid blinders. Some people just like the fucking game.
SoD is not great because developers dont know what Vanilla stands for...if they wanted to make specs viable just change talent trees for the shitty specs not give everybody 82828 overpowered runes, new quests, new dungeons, new zones, more lvls to gain and then you give ppl new abilitys/spells like always.
GDKP groups require a certain amount of gold to enter if you don't have that tier of gear. So there's an entrance fee that's ridiculous, incentivizing swiping more.
Ban the swipers and the sellers. All fixed.
@neoikake if they could they would. This is a war of attrition you can't get rid of it all. People make a living off of gold selling you ban the accounts you 110% KNOW is selling gold there is 20 more accounts that go unnoticed.
@@neoikakeYep. Blizzard just needs to do their work right here and theres your fix.
You can farm gold when ungeared and get your gear through GDKP.
Once fully geared you run GDKPs for Gold, and use that to gear up alts faster.
Its the solution to the Alts gearing problem taking as much time as it does for your mainchar
The problem is not the GDKP, but Blizzard letting bots go ramptant and allow gold buying.
You just have to bring enough gold to cover the min bid in most cases. In P1 the min Bid for raid loot was 5g. I’m sure it would be 10x that now with incursions but still not an amount that makes you have to swipe. Just do a few GDKPs and you will have gold to buy stuff.
I want to beat bosses and earn gear.
Not
I want to beat bosses and earn the right to buy gear.
The incursions killed sod plain and simple. It trivialized the entire open world and everyone zoomed to max lvl with good gear. The only thing left to do in game was raid log. The new specs and abilities were one of the few things that made it worth playing in the first place
I agree that the gameplay has to be fun first then rewards. I just log on to check rarespawns and AH in retail rn.
SoD was fun when it was alt friendly and the raids were 10 man.
It’s something I learned in the army, and teach my kids… I tell them all the time “any one can be a problem finder, be a problem solver”
I want the original game. Same phasing and everything. Maybe add some fist weapons and minor class/spec balancing.
After a year and a half, I want additional content. Finished zones. Planned features they never had time to put in.
*sigh
It's not our job to come up with solutions. If it was I need a check
They basicly use retail mechanics in sod and i don't like it.
Incursion are bad and you problably end up leveling from 40-60 with them also the introduction of catch up gear who comes with it. Devalues your raid gear who likes that? People really liked gear progression in Classic and now you end up with retail catch up mechanics for a classic gear progression.
Questing is weird too because on "max level" you can do quests for gold and if the next phase releases u are out of quests for multiple levels because you we're a greedy goblin before and couldn't resist to quest after reaching max level.
Why will PvP rank be capped at 10 on level 60? Time gated content is another thing from retail basicly and i don't like it either.
And in general phases go way too long. Yeah i get it some people need a month to do 10 level and wanna play chill but still phase 3 goes on for what 3 months?
Asmon just puts in a couple Reddit posts to AI and makes a video recap
In gdkps people have incentive to play well and finish a raid. In ms/os or reserve runs people only have incentive to play until they get to the boss that drops their loot.
And never log back in the phase once gear is obtained.
This is a video game, not the institute for performance improvement
@@Bubajumba I feel like you took my comment the wrong way or you just focused on the play well part but ok. My point is you're less likely to have your time wasted in a gdkp then you are a run where somebody has 0 reason to stay in said run.
Great points
Incursions killed open world and gold economy, dmg reduction ruined pvp, underwhelming raid gear and raid difficulty. There you go.
Asmon doesnt even play the game, his SoD experience is far from the norm so why should anyone take his opinion on that version of the game seriously? He has played like5 sessions of the game total with viewer raids? How can he even understand what the average person's experience with the season has been?
Agree
big reason i stopped watching him.
"I don't want to listen to his opinion so his opinion isn't invalid" You can disagree all you want but other people's opinions still hold as much weight as yours
@@michaellake8066exactly. The internet has created this culture where, if you dont agree with me so your opinion is not valid. It only shows how weak and fragile people are about their own thinking.
@@michaellake8066 when they don’t engage in the subject, that’s a completely different case. It’s like hearing someone’s opinion on football when the last game they watched was in 2015. Asmongold does not play WoW for a long ass time, so everytime he has something to say about the game, it’s hard to take him seriously when his outlook on the game is outdated at best, or straight up wrong at worst.
Yes GDKPs are not making the end game more fun in itself but raiding is already fun enough f.e. to just do big damage and flex so GDKPs are just providing people with an oportunity to do more than just big damage. Its like a good product with good marketing, to use your example
Xar: there is too much content
Xar 1 day later: there is not enough content
These creators kekw😂😂😂😂😂
bro they are all over the place its wild like pyromancer meltdown or preach all these guys shit talk wow but end up playing again one way or another
There is a huge difference between "content = dozens of runes that make weird unbalanced specs" and "content = additional dungeons / events etc"
I believe Xaryu talked about less 1st type of content and mote 2nd type.
SOD is Retail - , and cause of that it will suffer the same fate. When tww will be out, and cata go into firelands, sod will die even in p4. Most people who play it are retail player, and not classic player. Blizzard just killed the best oppurtunity to create a second classic...
Its still classic because u cant play furry and overwheight humans and non binary dragons.
Having watched the whole video on youtube that this clip was taken from. GDKP was not actually his main argument. He said a lot of the content of SOD makes no sense like mage healing and rogue tanking. Where almost everything in classic makes sense. The new abilities have taken away classes needing to be with each other. Before being a duo of a pally and warrior was amazing. You got buffs warriors needed the heals. Now you have no reason to group for quests. It literally removed the necessity of grouping from an mmo. Other than that he talked about the difficulty of the raids and not using boss ids vs raid ids. Let people clear the same boss multiple times but only loot 1 time per lockout. That allows people to go experience the content instead of getting locked to your raid so it punished people for joining pugs.
The raid difficulty is way out of line with classic as well. Further hindering pugs. Remember everyone loving phase 1? But everyone mad about the 2nd to last boss? Gnomer came out and it was just too hard to be fun. People playing this likely have jobs, likely other time commitments. Going into a raid for 3 to 4 hours and wiping made people unsub. They completely blew it with sunken temple balancing as well.
That was the jist of the original video. I paraphrased about 15 minutes of him talking through it.
It's not the classic + we wanted. That being said, it's fun with low time investment.
2:30 Nah... you lvl, then you raid, and then you pvp because thats the fun part
Everytime Asmon isnt currently playing a game, he absolutely dumps on it. 😂
Asmon has turned into a full react streamer and now he is turning into a polictal streamer. Half of his uploads are Trump or Biden related. 🤮
@@afrocoolio25 While having the audiacity to advert the video of him watching someone else's content lmao.
He's only playing games to generate money nowadays, if you notice how he talks about how WoW should change, especially when he says that new players should play other games since they can't earn real money unlike playing in riot or other competitive games. He forgets that most players are only playing for fun and not to generate money and pandering to their stream to keep them "entertained"
If SoD is so great, then why haven't I played it yet?
Checkmate, classic Andys!
😂
(this comment is 100% sarcasm for those who can't tell)
Trying to bring a more social aspect to a game during an era where people are less and less socialized everyday is obviously gonna kill the game. People barely say hi to eachother anymore.
Not good clips and seems to try to put it out of context. He did said it was a small portion but still is one of the factor affecting player retention of wanting to keep playing. He also listed others reason as well.
What a paradox, people wanted classic for the social aspect of the game, but when they had the ability not to "socialize", join guilds and rather do GDKPs as Xaryu said here, they flocked to it. Hmm.
Players don't care about socializing. What they want from classic is just the brain-dead easy gameplay and easy raids for loot and whatnot.
@@eduardoheleno9903 Touche bro
most good gdkps are communities with mostly regulars. they are literally more social than most guilds that raid log. noones really referring to random pop up trade chat gdkps that are usually just as bad as trade chat ms>os runs.
I don't know, I love SoD for the most part. Imperfect but I've just had fun the whole way through.
p4 will be interessing for 1-2
weak . better dont get so much hyped about it
i miss gdkp it was fun buying gold and afking in raids allowing all the sweats to carry me. while i gear 9 toons and afk in city's until raid resets.
This is sarcasam hahahhahaha
Removed GDKP is a good thing. They should be banned from retail/classic as well. 90% of GDKP players are gold buyers/sellers....so blizz is basically promoting RMT by allowing it to exist.
Asmon is right...the game won't be successful by catering to sweats and making things more difficult....the game is for dads that don't have much time to play
But its not catering to sweats, have you seen all the content in most modes? the competitive parts are only being pursued by the "sweats" while the rest are taking their time with content. He's only applying his streaming knowledge about how to improve it, not as a gamer. Since most of his suggestions are to make the viewing experience better for his audience as opposed to making the game fun.
Its good he say this, then this way all his twitch spergs will leave
GDKP also popular for max geared toons bc it enables you to gear an alt you aren’t currently raiding on. just mail over gold and your time isn’t wasted doing bwl for the 66th time on your bis main
its also the fairest since u dont get gear based on “luck” ，and if u wanna bring up buying gold then thats cheating so thats a Blizzard issue
Or to farm gold on the maxed char.
for casuals gdkp is a good way to beat ppl who are unemployed and can farm gold all day, not having gdkp makes the game unbalanced like back in the days when no lifer had always advantage
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Jeez gdkp is so stoopid, play warmane there are pug raids an free for all or guilds with normal dkp systems no problems at all.
warmane has a suprisingly toxic community for how small it is. like 8k players and they all hate each other.
@@-.-Monster well, cant denie that. its a private server of an old game. obviously most are fk ups. you should try lol or cs go pure love there :D
@@xerlon8111 LoL has pockets of toxic at different ranks. low ranks (first 5 tiers) wild levels of toxic. then it's pretty chill til the last 3 tiers of ranks. but yea CS is pure hate
imo with sod they shouldnt have had the lvl bonus increase and the incursions almost ruins the whole benefit of playing classic wow for me
and they just shouldnt have done both of those things tbh
Not all ppl are a fan of vanilla leveling experience,they did that to attract those kind of players to SoD.
@@Deathl_O_r_d i mean why are you playing classic if you dont like the lvling experience thats like the whole game that you dont like
(not you specifically but those people that dont like the lvling experience)
@@Ghandiiit’s not the whole game at all. You cannot Raid or do pvp till end game, that’s why people enjoy the game.
GDKP was never the issue, the fact that blizzard didnt act on the bots was the issue. If you have a solid economy in a game where gold is actually worth something, there is nothing wrong with a GDKP. Blizzard just can't control the botting so they killed all the reasons to spent gold.
GDKP are for people with normal lives, careers and all that stuff. A lot of people with anything going on have no time to revolve around a set raid time each week. At least in retail you can just show up without all pre reqs required.
So whats then the problem to make pug and just roll on items if u get it u get it. U save time and enoy playing game, or is getting items more important then playing the fucking game as a game. U make no sense u either play game with time u have or dont play it wtf
I love SOD. The idea of runes, more classes being viable and some changes is great. The problem is that Blizz went overboard with runes and everyone is doing too much dmg. Tweak it a little, dial it down and it will be amazing.... and yeah, incursions svckd dck but... I love the idea of mage heal and warlock tank... Why not? I mean Asmon think he's a God and he's crazy pretentious..
Asmon didn’t saying anything that hasn’t been said. I’ve been saying this since P1. It’s shiz. Mage healers, WHAT A FREAKING JOKE!
Here’s a solution: Quit SoD now and save your time on this trash bin.
GDKP is only viable if they have a hard stance on RMT and no wow tokens. I lose all interest if I have the opportunity to just buy my progress with wow tokens, like what's the point of playing when it's 50x more efficient to buy progress instead.
There is no wow token in sod
they do，they just don't care enough and also。 they are part of the gold seller with。 their tokens
Lmao sure bud, u talk as if u would farm hours to get gold for gdkps
@@eduardolabio4708if there no swiper price would be resonable. And making 2k gold in arcane cristal or herbs is not hard. Time gated like classic.
@@eduardolabio4708 I will never cheat and buy gold but I know it's common. They need to perma ban RMTers if GDKP exists. For me, I only use GDKP to get gold as a booster, not spend it.
Am I the only one who hopes for SoD HC ?
I want more HC content.
The gdkp arguement is weak. If people really wanted to play the game, they would be in the raid rolling against other people regardless of the loot distribution. Just because people cant throw their money at g2g now to line your pockets doesnt make it bad.
If you really wanted to be on sod you would be regardless of loot distribution
You’re missing the point. Gdkp is the most casual friendly way to raid since you don’t have to commit to the same schedule of raid times each week. GDKP has way more competent groups than ms>os pugs because they attract more competent players and everyone has more incentive to complete the raid to get there payout. No one leaves as soon as the item they want doesn’t drop if they lose the roll.
@@zdubzz1280the most casual friendly way to raid is to just hop into a raid and roll for gear, because casuals don’t have a bunch of extra gold to bid on pieces of gear. This is the most YOU friendly system because you would like to purchase loot with gold, instead of being subjected to rng.
@@Jdawg456they trying so sell a story like u can roll on items hahahahhaaha. They dont want to play a game just want items then quit. Ill bet 90% of them dont even pvp waste of gear
@@Jdawg456 so then join a Ms/os if you don’t mind the rng. What’s stopping you?
@@zdubzz1280 I’ll happily join raids that are ms/os that do not have gold bidding for each raid item
I really don’t mind GDKPs as an isolated system but the problem is it allows people with bad intentions to ruin things for everyone. I’m not saying “hey I don’t have that much gold so everyone should ROLL for gear like I am!” It’s more like “GDKPs being allowed leads to people circumnavigating the obstacles of the game by fast tracking their route to success with gold. This new path encourages a black market of gold buying and selling.”
It just ends up being a shitshow so we can’t have em unfortunately.
Lol, GDKP being removed was the best change ever for classic but ofc a streamer would say that it was a bad idea to remove it, GDKP was the only reason that made me to not bother with classic because it's toxic for wow community and Classic players can be the worst sometimes because they try hard so much in a very very old game.
SoD is all about discovering new stuff and playing new specs, otherwise it's just season of mastery but with different raids.
ST killed the game. Literally the least popular most hated dungeon in all of classic. Turned into a 20man raid with 1 week lockout. And they made it none casual friendly. So much gatekeeping and try hards
Gdkp is great. I'm old and busy enough that I don't want to have a guild control my playtime. If I was single and didn't have employment that mattered, a normal guild might be doable.
Sod to me is so dog shit, I really don't understand how can people play it for longer than maybe 2 weeks. Phase 1 was probably the only time sid had something great
its not a high end issue. you want high geared people in your gdkp as a noob, so the raid will run smoother and you can buy the armor
Gdkp isn’t the problem. Blizzard not taking care of bottling and gold selling is the problem.
Asmon doesnt play the game anymore and is clearly out of touch. Literally you can watch his raid videos and see the easy mistakes he does while blaming others. If you get bis > you level another character or do pvp or farm... Whats the point of doing GDKP endlessly ? More gold and no other reward ? Asmons opinions are just that... His opinion but does not mean they are 100% true. He just fancies to say he is always right to get more attention
Why can’t they add more mounts? It’s a fucking seasonal server and they have hundreds of mounts they can use. Seriously wtf.
Gold buyers or GDKPs keep gamers like me playing. I love leveling alts and carrying raids with decent gear until I amass a fortune. I'm still going to play a few alts but there's less incentive to join raids if I'm faced with struggling through a 2-3 hour clear while everyone out rolls me and generally just sucks ass. I've never bought gold and haven't paid a sub since warlords
Minus RMT. GDKP is the fairest version of loot distribution.
Aside from merrit based loot council, which always become corrupt
Minus the #1 way people fund GDKP runs... Not too many people farming herbs for the AH to amass gold for a GDKP.
How most fair is we all roll and highest roll get item u make no sense
the only fair loot distribution is personal loot. all other forms are corrupt or can be trolled
@@workingandcommenting current retail system works - all they need to do is add a modifier to the need roll IE do you have an item this ilvl or higher already? then you roll on the same need track as everyone that has this which has 1 less priority than those that dont have this ilvl or higher
removing gdkp killed sod for alts... and everyone wanted to play alts, thats why we had 7 lvl 25's at the end of p1. p2 and p3 both had gigantic player drops.
Bruv, the phases killed alts. Extreme long leveling in p2 and all the runes that you dont want to repeat on your alts (no catchup mechanic)., and then in p3 the boring grind and raid. As if gdkp killed alts. Yall are ridiculous
@@fritzschnitzmueller3768 If organic leveling 25-40 is extremely long for you then you're playing the wrong game.
@@rafikigrows im for longer leveling and I didn't like when they introduced the XP nerf. Just saying these are the reasons. Most ppl in my guild ran 6-9 Alts in p1 and for that, the leveling experience was too long and boring (mostly sm grind because leveling in the open world is nearly impossible with these level bands). Man, yall need to learn to read and communicate. Thats embarassinh
@@fritzschnitzmueller3768 Lol. You need to realise people stopped playing their alts for different reasons. You don't know how to level efficiently and that's fine. But for people who do know how to level because they're authentic alt enjoyers, the levelling experience had little to nothing to do with it.. Like reading and communicating.
its funny he complained about gdkps being a problem and now he doesn't
which is it guys pay to win? then you should be investing in retail
not pay to win? then you should be enjoying sod
complaining the game isn't tailored or balanced well? post on their forums
i leaved becous GDKP it makes game hard for new ppl , who dont wanna spend money to buy gold and get somekind of gear in GDKP.
Ahh shid here we go again copium video time lets go
Another problem when GDKP takes over the meta is if you don't have a guild/guild raid spot you are crap out of luck if you don't have the gold for minimum bid/buy in. So if you are away from the game for a bit you are pretty fkd
You not being in a guild is not the fault of the GDKP system. If you don't put in the time to find a guild OR put in the time to farm minimum bid that's on you!
If you wanna run meta you will have those things. if not you, dont need to join gdkp its not obligatory you can do it the normal way. This is not like raid vs mithic+ where you can get raid loot ONCE a week wich makes mithic obligatory
sod is and always was one video away from greatness or dead game. fanbase is too toxic and fickle they hate that theres no content yet overdo the release week playing incursions for 14 hours a day. game isnt bad the playerbase is imo with all that said i wont be playing it... its summer go outside
My man
Those are all the reasons most people actually play SoD 😂😂😂🤦♂️
GDKP removal was one of the absolute best and healthiest things EVER implemented!
The lack of GDKPs kept me playing once they removed it. Not a fan of GDKP
wdym, it is so easy to come up with a solution. Delete and forget sod, release classic of 2019 no boons = profit
Spot on, this reason "The gameplay needs to be fun" is the singular reason why i have now full cleared V Rising on the highest tuned difficulty 3 times. XD
There is No boss fight in the whole of Wow that compare to the difficulty of V Risings last boss on Brutal Difficulty.
And for reference i play M+ at a consistent 95th+ percentile, which ain't that legendary but still 95th percentile.
Rare W xar take, asmon L on this one
The game dies faster without GDKP much faster than if it had it. This is fact. That is all
u mean rmt and not gdkp，false correlation fallacy
Not having gdkps in sod makes sod sucks
Sod is just a filler to keep casuals for whom retail is too hard around
I think its more about the classic vibe. Retail just feels like a woke Disney movie.
Not a single version of wow is hard,once u understand game like its just little diffrent version of it. I played cata first time when it came out same shit as every wow u kill dragons u get loot. Heroic dont stand in fire u get loot. Only pvp is hard in wow pve is just patterns like come on every boss has pattern after u die 5 times either u dense or dont want to play. Wow is not hard
@@josipmarasovic2436 You can't compare sod to CE Mythic raiding and say it's just a little different
GDKPs should have been removed far sooner. The classic player base and the overall tone of these rereleases have been tarnished by GDKPs and the plethora of negative aspects that come with it. RMT and botting are the most obvious and potentially most damaging. The feeling I got in dalaran, looking for a raid but only seeing GDKPs over and over and over again.. not really having the time and certainly not the motivation to farm gold just to have a 3% chance to see the item I want drop and then some whale spend hundreds of thousands of gold and sweep it away. I just don’t have the ability to outbid a card swiper on a meaningful piece of gear. And I don’t even want that ability, I want the need for that ability to be removed entirely. It was the same in Shattrath and starting to get like that at the end of the era servers as well. Removing GDKPs have been and always will be a net positive for the OVERALL COMMUNITY, I only wish they would have removed them sooner.
Sorry if you like them, that’s great.. for you. Love that.. for you. But it fks the rest of the game and it’s community. Emergent player gameplay is worse than meaningless when it results in a negative impact for the rest of the player base.
They removed them on Sod and there’s still a rampant hitting problem. If you don’t like GDKP then don’t do it. That simple.
@@zdubzz1280 it’s not that simple and I’m not even going to attempt a conversation with someone who doesn’t understand at least that much. Good luck.
@@bren3233 “I can’t defend my argument so I’ll say I don’t wanna explain”
@@zdubzz1280 I didn’t feel like wasting my time with someone that didn’t stop to think before they post a reply. I don’t even need to defend my argument? Against what? What you said doesn’t even qualify as a legitimate point against anything I said. But whatever.
The very first thing I said was “GDKPs should have been removed far sooner”. They’ve already shit the bed my guy, the bots are here and they came for the RMT market that GDKPs HEAVILY incentivize. That market and those bots simply do not disappear over the course of a few months. If there is money to be made, there will be bots. GDKPs helped establish the RMT market in SOD. Blizzard should have banned GDKPs from day 1.
@@zdubzz1280 read the first sentence again. Do yourself a favor and think before posting big dog.
whole video about 1 point of another video, at least listen to every point
I swear.. streamer reacting to another streamer. You guys are going to lose all respect from the community if you keep up with this garbage meta. I'm blocking Xar. I can't stand this farming for views mentality
honestly based same
Lmao 💀
If you can't "stand it" why'd you click on it and watch it you're one of the people getting farmed and you just realized it.
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Bro Asmon has played wow for like 100 hours in the last 5 years, he still thinks his opinion is relevant its crazy.
and yet he still knows like 10 times more than you in general.
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@@semiramisubw4864 all he knows how to do is complain and be bald
he has 36k hours. probably forgot more than most will ever know
@@sticknbox6157 I am 36 and have played since the original beta. I'm not disregarding his time played, but he speaks as if he is the only one who has played for that long. The difference is that I never quit, and neither did a lot of others. He is a casual wow andy now. simple.
Banning GDKPs because it encouraged botting and gold buying was not the play. Banning the fucking botters and gold buyers was the play. Let us raiders bid for items we want, with gold we farmed ourselves and people that didnt get any gear still got rewarded.
Removing GDKP is 100% the best thing Blizzard has done for the game, and it´s not even close.
If you need gambling to be allowed ingame to continue playing you should quit anyway honestly.
Not sure you know what gambling means. This is auctioning. Actually gambling is totally allowed on sod and you can deathroll as much gold as you want.
@@zdubzz1280 "Actually gambling is totally allowed" That's a proper line right there, I read that with a biyatchslap at the end :p
Just because deathroll is allowed doesn't mean its healthy to abuse it, that goes for a lot of things. If people where buying gold supplying the entire botting community I'd say the exact same thing not healthy anymore.
GDKP is/was, for me, the best loot distribution method. I loved it for many reasons - one because I didn't have to be committed to a guild and attend raid after raid week after week for which I didn't need any loot. I could just log in after a few weeks break from the game, hop into a PUG GDKP and raid. Nine times out of ten you know you were going to get a full raid of COMPETENT players too! The piece of loot you wanted didn't drop? That's ok you get gold! It's a win-win scenario for everyone involved. Yes, it incentivizes gold buying but I don't really care tbh because the benefits far outweighed the drawbacks for me. I didn't participate in gold buying nor did I want to do boring gold farming methods. I just made gold by showing up to GDKPs. As a casual player I loved GDKP. Just my opinion. The removal of GDKPs is probably the biggest reason I stopped playing.
A potential solution could be using the new currency, tarnished undermine real. Then it wouldn't encourage gold buying anymore!
"for me" keywords right there. GDKP is bad for the game, period. Just because you like it doesn't make it good... lots of people like drugs, but that doesn't mean they good for anyone.
Same, i loved hopping in a Naxx GDKP. I was fully geared, just collecting some gold and pumping the meters.
chinese gold buyers be like
Found the swiper😂
@@josejuanandrade4439 for you GDKP is bad for the game, peroid. Just because you dont like it, doesnt make it bad. lots of people hate dealing with gold in an economy but that doesnt mean its bad for everyone.
Player base creates a system within game and within rules that all participants are happy with.
It unfortunately incentivizes people to cheat.
Don’t remove the cheaters.
Remove the system that was created.
Or just remove the cheaters and let us keep our fun. Not everyone who participates in GDKP is a cheater.
@@Lemon-yh6xg People think this solved all the botting and gold selling but I bet if you logged in right now 100s of bots.
this is so true，some wow andies are just so delusional
@@jeffharness5163yup. Reporting them eavry day. There still gold selling sites.
Yeah becose darkmoon cards or epic bis where not priced hight in sod with out gdkp. Lol
The weird specs are fun, asmongold just hates fun and complains about literally everything.
SOD = retail vanilla. throw it in the trash. "But it's so fun!" Yes, in the same way gambling is.
gdkps are retail
the xp buff is necessary with respect to the content and quests needed to grant more xp
I think the approach is wrong forcing everyone to endgame when its about the journey
I never even bothered u could tell it was shit from the beggining. Wake up blizzard give us fresh!
Asmon so detached. The guy is unbearable since half a year or a year. Watched him all the time before that, but something happened and he's just having the clout opinions nowadays
Asmon will voice the opinion that has the absolute minimum push-back from his audience. He's a master at it, it's why he's so huge, and I don't blame him for a second doing it. By nature of that, he's pretty based.
Asmanbaldo and people like him want to make GDKP a job out of Playing wow. When they banned it a lot clowns quit.
You don’t have to agree with him on the gdkp takes but what about the others?
For me SoD was doing fine until Discoverer's delight buff, and incursions with catch-up gear/gold making/best leveling 3 in 1 bullshit. Incs were the biggest mistake of SoD development. Classic is all about the world and you gave people a reason not to populate the world. I have no idea how it was given a green light...
Incursions are the problem. The XP buff is not, lot's of players (me included) don't want to lvl that slow. But at the same time, the gameplay loop that Incursions created was so toxic.