Mig-29 Fulcrum Vs F-16 Viper | ASTRA MISSILE | INTERCEPT | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |
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Bro, the video just posted, how is this comment from 46 min ago
Hey Growling, could you do a video using different versions of the AGM-65 Maverick missile (TV-Guided, IRR and Laser-homing)
Hey man, could we have a f-22 vs su-57 BVR engagement
Idea For next video SU30 mki vs F16 Viper
I just have one issiue - can you also give us a version of a planes which are in the videos? Difference between F16A and F16D is like...at least tremendous?
GS: Don't go inside the MAR
GS: Well, I'm going to enter a little bit
*get's hit by a missile
GS: And that's why you don't go inside the MAR
😂
I love the BVR videos. Especially when both sides end up merging and dogfighting.
Never before in your videos I've see this much of "maximum speed" warnings! Usually, it is the opposite! 😄😄
Ahaha ya the mig29 is an absolute rocket
I love the Mig 29, also good range if you stay out of afterburner (although most people don't really know how to monitor that correctly and just go full burn).
The Astra program has picked up speed after the IAF was disappointed with the Su-30/ Adder combo during the scuffle over kashmir . Although the Su-30s managed to survive several AMRAAMs but failure to down the PAF planes by the premier airsuperiority fighters some say even lock them up left them fuming hence the push for Astra Mk 1 and the later variants to makeup the short comings. The program was aided with knowledge gained from joint indo Israeli Barak 8 program too I suppose
Well said
can you give me more details on the scuffle over Kashmir? Do you mean the one where the m2k was used for a deepstrike in Balakot? Or is it something else. I would love to read reports from both sides
yupp and we shot down their f16 too .
The way you describe the situation, I think you was inside the Su30. American counterparts cannot digest that F16 was shoot down by mig 21 bison, It was only because of Su30s maintaining lock and put them in defensive. 6 to 7 F16 can't even shoot 2 Su30s even after launching AMRAAMs in a row.
@@RahulSingh-rg4pm idk man, I wouldnt be surprised if su30 has a better radar than f16 but a mig21 shooting down a f16 never seemed real to me, despite all the reports. Sure the F16 is way superior than any mig21 as we know, however even one evidence of the f16 being shot down would be great.
Great video, as always. Keep going!
btw. don't mix up miles and nautical miles 😉. The MAR would have actually been 18.5 km.
Also true and a good point
India is testing a new mission computer on its Mig 29k platform which will allow integration of Indian and western origin weapons on the plane.
Mig-29 with amraams?...
@@orzorzelski1142 if everything goes well. Then we can see fa18 with astra
@@orzorzelski1142 possible if US doesn't object but India already has the astra so don't think they need amraams.
@@orzorzelski1142I doubt they'll go for the AMRAAM for Mig29, because it will be easier to integrate the Israeli Derby ER with 140km range.
They are integrating those with the Su-30 mkis
@@direwolf7491 If they fit Astra on migs they will probably go with astra mk2 with 150 km range and a better Kill probability as it wll require lesser changes on the aircraft
For ultimate disrespect, do a gun run on the downed pilot after he’s ejected. Bonus points if you get him in mid air
If I was the Ukrainians....I sure the hell would.
Best way to make it look accidental is to do a fly by and collapse the chute. A shedded pilot or chute is a dead giveaway
and what if the pilot didnt eject in time
@@krismurphy7711 Quite literally
That's actually a wat crime
Hey GS, just wanted to say that this was a great video. Had it not been for you penetrating deep into the the PAF F-16’s minimum abort range, you’d have killed a F-16 using a MiG-29 and not died. However, the second round was OP. Man you’re an awesome pilot. Great video 👏🇮🇳
Hope to see indigenous Indian fighter jets in DCS soon
Please do more of those super slo-mo shots of the missile hits, very kewl to see the missile chase and also exactly where it hits.
Only if we had indian mig 29 upg in dcs.
Also fun fact, astra mk1 integration with mig 29 is not yet done ( mig 29 k of indian navy will get them before mig 29 upg most likely)
Mig 29 UPG = IAF
Mig 29 K/kub = Indian navy ac jets
Update - integration to mig 29 k of navy is in work, airforce will take a year or two and by then astra mk2 will also come with a dpp and max range of around 100 miles or 160 kms
What's a dpp? Doppler pulse radar or some kind of data link abbreviation?
@@xmlthegreat dpp means dual pulse propulsion, btw astra mk2 will have an aesa radar ( yes aesa) and the astra mk1 will also have the same ku band aesa.
The advantage of DPP over solid rocket booster is that dpp is more efficient and range is higher for similar sized missile
Love that BVR fight videos man! Very interesting! :D Keep up the good work!
Hi! Please, consider explaining those sounds in the cockpit: BEEPS, DONGS, RINGS, etc…
What do they mean? Sometimes they are radar warnings, other are locks, GPW… whatever.
Thnks
yes
Its the RWR
In mig29, slow, repetitive beep means you are detecting signal from enemy radar. Continuous tone means you are being locked, and fast beeping you get when radar guided missile is launched at you.
In tight turns you can hear a different sound, which indicates that aircraft is being over G-ed. I believe same sound also indicates when aircraft is stalled and if there is a fire to the engine.
@@bojned just like battelfield
Salut Comrade
Love watching your videos while I am relaxing with my daily cigar.
GS! I am looking forward to a dogfight between the F16 viper and the MIG 29 Indian Version. It would be interesting if u could use the split throttle in both and shuffle fighters after a couple of rounds
It’s amazing in retrospect, watching yourself do exactly what you just said you shouldn’t do….and doing it anyway….lol! The end of Round 1 is what I’m referring to. Damn MAR 🤣
Love these kind of fights especially the ending, thanks
I had been thinking long and hard why you sounded familiar and now I realised, you sound so much like Raymond Romano, your voice is reassuring in a strangely calm yet funny way!
Ahahah he’s got a very nasally voice but I’ll take it I love ray he’s great.
Casually flying at Mach 1.45, wow! Nice video mate
6:31
“My name is AIM-120. You killed my father. Prepare to die.”
As a follow up to this video, maybe you can do a match up between the Indian MIG19s with the Astras against Pakistani JF17s with the SD10s. Better yet, make that engagement a group vs group BVR to merge type of encounter, instead of a 1 vs 1.
Man accepted your request. 15 Sep video.
that final fox 3 at the end, that F-16 is going to need little more than just a flex tape to fix it up after getting hit point blank xD
I've seen you fly the Viper against the Raptor, but would love to see a reversed video with you in the Raptor. Thanks for all you do! Love your vids!
Hey Sidewinder. A quick request if it’s okay.
I know the Mig29 in DCS has three variants, even more counting mods. If it’s okay (unless you always use the same variant) would you be willing to specify what variant of the Mig29 you’re using?
Thanks.
This is 29S, its most noticeable external difference from 29(9-12) is its characteristic long aerodynamic ridge.
Don't pay attention to the camouflage, this is not a MiG-29K, the aerodynamic ridge of the 29K is identical to 29(9-12)
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@@anaru_kudasai да вроде норм написал
@@anaru_kudasai k variant is not in dcs
all variants are the same but the A variant does not have the R-77 and has a worse radar, and the G or german variant has an improved engine to the A and S
@@pioneeringtech1592 mig 29 upg has multi function displays and such this is just a missle test
Just found out about you, and it couldn't have come in a better time. I've been trying to learn how to dogfight and fight with missles. Currently i am playing in warthunder, because i don't have a yoke/joystick for dcs. I am really bad at it, but these videos are definitely helping me out. Keep it up man!
Watch smigol time or thunderkills or defyn to get a firm grip on what to do
Welcome to the community, we hope you subscribed to GS's channel so you don't miss a video! He's got a lot of great videos with explanations of terms and tactics. Another great channel belongs to his friend, Longshot: czcams.com/users/LongShotChannel
If you ever want to have some fun just watch one of their "Two Morons" videos -- guaranteed to make you laugh! 😄
@@truthseeker9454 alright, thanks lad! I've already been looking at sime videos like the one where he explains basic callouts. I'm going to dive deeper in the controll zone part, may be something interesting. Also basic combat manouvres would be good to know. Thanks for you comment, greatly appreciated!
@@Miles26545 thank you. Will look into that right now!
dude i love your videos, its my mroning routine now, breakfast while watching one of your vids, love them
Thank you 🙏 I appreciate the support, much love.
That’s some sweet low flying action man
Idea cred. I commented after your fist comparison on the mig 29 to the viper in regards to maneuverability.
MAR would actually be closer to 18km since the NATO aircraft use nautical miles/knots rather than standard ones and mph.
Extremely underrated fighter. I've always had a soft spot for it because I had a Mig-29 Fulcrum simulator way back in the 90's which was pretty darn legit for the computers at the time.
Awesome content. Very fun to watch 👍
That was a well intercept I must say, but the way you got cocky in the mar and got pay back in the end was classic. lol
I'm gonna do this fight, too. Trying to get better in the MiG-29.
I enjoyed the fact there was not a "one circle" or "two circle" from your mouth during round 1!
That mutual kill in the first round was just fabulous
You should use the mig-25 with some Hypersonic long-range missiles and take to make 29 since it's fast and see if it's just as good as the F-16 from notching the missiles I would love to see that. I'm not taking credit for this but I did say that I would love to see the F-16 versus the MiG-29 to me the mid-29 is the Russian F-16 LOL obviously the F-16 is my favorite plane. But I believe somebody else also asked about this video. But thank you very much for the video thank you for putting your time and effort into these videos. I wish they had the F-16 XL mod. No one has made it yet I wish somebody would do it because that was the original design and had a bigger wingspan it would be cool if they did a what if or somebody that does mods can do a what if cuz some planes have not made it into combat. Just like to say keep up the good work with the videos much appreciation from me John from St Petersburg Florida💯🤙🤙🤙
Gs- “I’m so fast”
Missle coming in at 3x the speed of the fulcrum: “ hold my beer”
F-16I Sufa VS F-15STOL/MTD Fox2 Dogfight!
F4U Corsair VS A-1 Skyraider
F-111 Aardvark VS MIG-27K
Mosquito VS Pucara
F-86 Sabre VS A-10 Thunderbolt II
P-47 Thunderbolt VS SU-25 Frogfoot
J-7 VS MIG-21
F-1 Mirage VS Panavia Tornado
J-10 VS SU-27
T-45 Goshawk VS F-14 Tomcat Test Fight!
Please fly Planes on the left😁🙏
Panavia Tornado would be interesting in a BVR fight or in a dogfight! Would love to see that!
@@sulyokpeter3941 Thanks!😁✌
I'm hoping GS will fly The F-1 Mirage against The Panavia Tornado Dogfight! Although it'd certainly be cool to see him swap aircraft during the vid!
Do you have a video of your pitch and roll curves and / or general controls setup?
Modern missiles and dropping chaff... quite a desperate "POCKET SAND!" as you go cold and hit the burners.
I would love to see F35 Bandit Unknown!!! Maybe some BVR with it if possible!
could you do a dogfight between the F14 and the mig 29 and both are using thrust differential?
The harrier jump jet vs the mig 35😁👍awesome skills mane.
Harrier is 3rd gen mig35 is 4+ dont even try lol
@@AlenB29 true! But it depends on the pilot.
@@corporalJade meh in a BVR harrier is getting smoked no doubt thats like Raptor vs mig21
@@AlenB29 ok ok ! What about f15c vs f15e? Guns only!!!
cant wait to see the comment section on this one in an hour.
I think that GS is now very deadly pilot in dcs even though he is in 1970’s aircraft..he manage to amaze me every time.
Would love to see a Mirage 2000 vs Viggen dogfight, good video.
vid idea: 3-4 plane, free for all, fox 2 dogfight
Interesting video...so would split throttle maneuvering work in the MiG-29? Those engines look far enough apart for the effect to work. 🤔
He did a video on exactly that like a few days ago.
Sometimes I go to recommit and realize I’m fucked so I fly straight into the launch and just put the trail in the bore sight and we will pick it back up on the other side.
sidewinder , is there any water based targets in DCS ? cause id love a good video about air to sea combat with long range missiles 🙂
These modern fights, i am no expert, but these fights look more like number's game more than anything.. we were promised that better, smarter weapons will keep the operators safe, better standoff, smarter identification, everything working together to allow the winner to come back home..
The more i watch these simulations, the more it seems that no one from either side is safe.. even in that China vs India team fight that Growling made, only one J 17 went back home, and the rest of the unit was lost.. seems like a number game, an extremely dangerous number game to me..
Not if you have an f22 lmao
Well that is what happens when two peer powers slug it out. India and China both have similar technology and capability.
@@impcfreak true.. near peer fights will be ugly and bloody..
Also, knowing our Indian armed forces, i dont think our pilots (or soldiers, or sailors) will turn back once they exhaust their BVR units.. 😅
I am sure they will go in for a knife fight up close..
And, although they are our adversaries, I think PL forces will do the same .
@@Miles26545 not everything can be afforded to an f22.. it is not a miracle cure all ..
I am aware of the reduced cross section, but as far as i remember, that steel marbel rcs is only from direct front and direct back. Also, most countries will have a layered SAM systems, and believe me, no matter how DCS portrays rusi SA missiles blowing up mid air, the real things are not so polite .
@@SoumalyaBarai Well Abhinandan Varthaman had done exactly that. From publicly available info he had crossed the LOC and went after the F-16 even though his wingman had turned tale.
We need a class on the HUD icons and sounds. Please?
Bro. It would be soo cool to see the hal Tejas fighter on your channel in dcs
It was me. 🥳
Thanks GS for keeping my request. 🤗
@GrowlingSidewinder maybe I just haven't found the video yet but what kind screen set up do you use. VR? or something else. Based on the way you always look around I'm rather curious.
Trackir 5 boss
When I see a new GS video, I like it first, then watch it.
All out of Fox 3s…
So he’s all out of foxes to give?
😉
Well played
J. Walter Weatherman: “And that, kids, is why you never go into the MAR!”
what about Mig-29 with the ASTRA missile against Eurofighter with the Meteor?
I would say in terms of speed it's not "an even match up", Mig-29 is significantly faster 2.0 Ma Viper vs 2.3 Ma Fulcrum.
Depends on how much each one slows down due to not being in a clean configuration. I guarantee you that neither will do mach 2 with missiles on them.
@@wurfyy I fully understand that but it translates directly to the performance of a fully loaded aircrafts. Mig-29 will be faster in every configuration (equal configuration between those two aircrafts).
@@dash3dot It is absolutely not that simple. Different weapons create different amounts of drag, have different weights, are attached to different pylons for which the same is true, the aerodynamics of the aircraft can be affected in strange ways etc etc.
@@wurfyy For the love of God check out the raw engines data of both aircrafts. No matter what Mig-29 will always be faster than F-16 when both rigged with same kind of loadout.
@@dash3dot Yeah because nothing but the engines determine the speed. Sure, buddy.
how does trackir work when looking behind since you cant see the screen anymore?
No tacview debrief ?? That would have been interesting
I'm excited to see these beasts on the INS Vikrant .. the behemoth of India!
Nice vid, but why aren't you salvo-firing your Fox-3s? That should increase the kill probability substantially.
Can you do 2 F-22 Raptor’s vs 10 F-15 Eagle’s?
Can you get the F15 that NASA experimented with with the canards and do that thrust vectoring stuff that you do with the F14 if not a basic air 15.
Astra has already been integrated with the Su30Mki I guess
One Squadron is already operation according to early 2021.
Great vid! I’m sorry to ask but what are your system specs? I need to plan for a new system and yours seems to work great.
Thank you, and yes my video description has the computer specs you're looking for.
@@GrowlingSidewinder I’m sorry, I didn’t scroll down all the way. Thank you so much! BTW, I never would have guess it was Ryzon.
can you do the differential trick with the F-15?
My 10 year old son and i are big fans of your channel. If you are taking ideas for future videos, he asked if you would consider doing a FW-190 vs Me-262. Thanks!
It's been done once before but I am now asking for Battle of the Canards II: A fight between the Eurofighter Typhoon, Dassault Rafale, JAS39 Gripen, and SU30SM Flanker-H. May the best 'nard win.
I wonder what was the range when you launched your missile to bandit
Great vid
Last kill was cool
Ok so I don’t have a pc or computer of any kind but I’m looking to save up and get into DCS and such. Is that pc thing he advertised at the beginning all I’d need (other than a flightstick and such) or would I need more equipment to run it? I don’t know anything about computers and wonder if that is all the required gear or not
Well you would need a key board, mouse and a monitor along with probably an HDMI cable. But other than the hotas and probably track IR that's it
Very good the indian Mig29!!👍🏻
“And that’s why you stay outside the MAR” 😂 😂 🤣
Given what you say about BVR regarding how important speed is. Shouldn't the slow F35 be at a very significant disadvantage if low observably is compromised/defeated?
The F-35 is slower than most 4th gen aircraft in a clean configuration.
However, 4th gen aircraft in a clean configuration are armed with nothing but a gun. The F-35 in a clean configuration can carry several missiles.
If you put missiles on those 4th gen aircraft, they suddenly slow down a lot.
If you have an F-35 with compromised low observability, it's a bit more even, but it still retains all the advantages such as its radar and other sensors, datalink etc that still make it an extremely difficult fight for the 4th gen aircraft. Odds are the F-35 won't even bother to drop those wing pylon JDAMs that compromised its low observability to begin with.
Fat Amy is a hell of a thing to fight.
f35 with 4 amraams 2 bombs, flir and jaming is faster than f16 with those as f16 carries it all as external addons
@@hphp31416 Well yeah, exactly what I was saying. 4th gen is faster until you actually make them carry anything useful.
@@wurfyy what about the Mig29 or F15? The old thrust to weight champions?
@@electric_boogaloo496 I stand by what I said.
hello brother !
Greetings from India.
I think you should compare Indian and Chinese aircrafts .
That would be really interesting 😁
Is the radar on the MiG 29 useful enough to employ the Astras well? Easiest way to convert KMs to NMs is to double KMs and subtract about 10-20%
Just divide by 1.8 and you get NM
@@Shubham-1999 Now both Astra Mk1 and Mk2 have indigenously developed Seekers and Yes Astra has been integrated with Indian Air Force Mig 29UPG and ofcourse Su 30MKI has it. Naval Mig 29K are yet to be integrated with Astra.
Waiting for Astra Mk3 with a range of 340km (210 miles) and Astra IR - 80 km (50 miles)
Many countries are producing and developing small fighters which are cheap, light, small, low radar crosssection and can carry multiplel type of armament.
We wanna see how heavy fighters and small fighters compete with each other.
I’d like to make a request for long range missiles (Phoenix vs Meteor).
You didn't say here hold this my dude!!
Does chaff really do anything then against radar guided missiles?
Seems like apart from speed or terrain, your only defense would be presenting your smallest profile and dumping chaff at the right moment -
its better than having nothing
If you can beam the missile chaff will be most effective
Awesome fight
Does this hud have a Mach number visible?
I WISH TO SEE MIG 29 M K & 35 AS WELL AS MIG 35 IT IS A SHAME THAT NOT A LOT IS SHOWN IN VIDEOS 😭
Forget imperial, embrace metric
Could we get Anti- Patriot SEAD?
Try the loster meteor against any 60-70s fighter. ItS a great plein and your skills Just make it interesting to me.
I like the look of the mig 29 cockpit
can you do a ww2 dogfight? like the me109 vs p51
Hi, it would be interesting if you play with the Indian Tejas fighter with brahmos missile.
ASTRA missile top notch wish we have modern MIG29 in DCS which India operate
F-15 vs F-18 would be cool for a dogfight I think. Air Force vs Navy.
have you tried tilting the radar sideways, so you can point your radar towards the opponent without fully pointing your nose? does it make a difference?
It would went trying to reacquire target. The radar will automatically do it within gimbal limits with a STT lock
Nice you saved that missile
How do I get the astras on the 29?