V12 First Impressions - Biggest FSD Update EVER
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00:00 - Intro
02:02 - V12 Reactions
04:31 - Regressions
07:00 - PIA
08:26 - V11 vs V12
27:41 - Results
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Summary & final results: 27:41 (but you’re gonna want to watch V11 vs V12)
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Please put your friends channel in the description. Always remember to do this to give proper credit. I wanted to go see his videos
Have to admit I was stoked when I heard about the comparison you two were doing on X. Your presentation and comments are top tier.
@@Lord_LindaThePhilosopher@wholeMars
I either drive my self!! 💙🚀💕
@@Lord_LindaThePhilosopher exactly
This is the best v11 to v12 comparison I have ever seen.
Are there more? 🤭 I agree but because the comparison sample is just one. 😁
and it's still not Full Self Driving. If you want you can give me $12k a year to collect data.
Im pretty sure @WholeMars can still hear the honk when he is closing his eyes. 🤣
LOL :D
A curiosity though: Thinking about myself, driving a manual and not always using the brakes after coming to a stop on a level road, wondering if Tesla/Etc. will view me as parked as my brake lights aren't visible even when I am at a complete stop. Nice content guys!
Vietnam flashbacks :D
@@NORWAYORNOWAY It can actually coz it mesure distance to objects around while it's moving so...
You can actually see it on the monitor inside the car* by the way :)
He's the worst
The title of this video does not do the content justice. This video is a real-time comparison/analysis of V11 vs V12 on the same routes, same traffic conditions!! I would never normally watch a 30 minutes video but I watched every minute of this and I was fascinated to see the differences in this manner. This video alone gives me confidence that Tesla is much closer to solving FSD now with V12. My guess is V11 improved very slowly cuz like regular software development, they fixed bugs with code changes and caused regressions. So I will be very curious to see whether more training data, less code changes, turns into much faster improvements with less regressions! Can't wait to see how this all plays out!! thanks for the incredible video.
Appreciate the kind words, glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching
@@AIDRIVR Why do you have 0 interventions in the results for v12 when you have several interventions in the video???? where v12 cut the corner and you had to intervene
@@Larsonaut The results are for the comparison drives while V11 was doing the same route as V12
Yes should’ve just made the comparison the main video, you’d get way more views
Your videos are so good! The narration and explanations are so useful when watching, it gives so much more feeling then a muted video.
You are my favorite FSD channel.
I agree 100%!
20:17 that's one of the funniest things that ever happend on this channel lmao. Tbh can't blame the long honk, that's absurd from FSD :'D
It's just an aggressive human driver from nyc
Funny.... is not the word I'd use
I mean if you think about it I think it was the V11 cars fault, it was taking too long and being too hesitant that V12 said F it I'm going around
Hmm....hmmm?? That's...not correct.
Seems like it learned its lessons too well 😅
Thank you so much for covering all this content! It is really helpful to watch these videos.❤
You’re very welcome, thank you for watching!
I've seen the video from Omar and expected it to mostly be the same, but this is so much better!
He is THE AI driver...you know. The best FSD content in the internet.
5:40 stop and go thing is a perspective. I do full stops all my life for 20 years now. I felt like I was driving in those videos. Kudos to the Tesla team!
Suggesting 99% don’t do full stops is… STUPID. Also, blaming regulators for making Tesla do full stops. Arrogant, and stupid. Just like Elon.
yeah, it's people not stopping properly at stop signs that makes it more dangerous b/c you have people wanting to roll through and people who stop. So the roll through people decide to go when it's not their turn b/c they never freaking stopped. But most people DO fail to fully stop. So I get why FSD is learning that behavior. It's even worse in congested downtown city areas.
@@Danin4985 woah chill
yeah. i do a full stop all the time. The only times i dont are ones where i didnt see it or was distracted. A machine would never be distracted and thats an improvement (when it gets good enough. and boy does this look pretty good)
Holy crap I've always knows full AI would be the best but it's crazy to see that be true in real life!
It is actually shocking, the difference is night and day! The V12 car drives exactly how a cautious but confident driver would, while the V11 car at times seems like a first time driver, and other times completely lost.
You are watching very heavily curated drives and videos by paid Tesla shills. Sorry.
the only problem is this is honestly kinda it’s peak. There’s only so much data you can through at an AI model. OpenAI is reaching that limit with LLM’s right now.
@@dnsjtoh I think you're wrong there, the only reason they wouldn't have done this before is because they had too little data or not enough data that was according to the standards needed to train it.
@@JetFire9 Do you have any sources for your claims? To me, it seems as though they showcased both the good and the bad equally, and did a comparison of old vs. new. Not only that, it's not like they can control for the randomness of everything going on around them, between all the cars, pedestrians, lighting, etc. It's also not the first time we've seen tech like this either, just as another popular example, Waymo.
This comparison is the best FSD video which I've seen so far, and I've seen hours of it already! This gives so much insights. Please do more of it with Omar!
Now for a more positive comment: I'm soooooooo excited to get V12 and soooooo happy you got to experience it and report your finding for us.
I can't wait to try it on the types of roads I have locally (35-45MPH typically, with many fewer stop signs) and see if the smoothness carries across. Phantom braking/hesitation is probably the biggest problem I experience in general and it looks like this _should_ possibly take care of that.
Same!
Single best video on FSD I've ever seen. Perfect AB test.
I'm excited for v12 since I'm driving accross the entire country moving to the bay area, an entire east coast to west coast v12 drive would be great to document
Do it!
FSD12 cross-country will be amazing to document!
The quality of of your verbal assessments, of both good and bad driving behaviors, is invaluable. Thank you and please keep it up.
Thanks so much for the “BALANCED: Good vs Needs Improvement” Reporting!! This is really helpful! 👍
Thank you so much for all this hard work. This comparison drive is so well done and invaluable to show the both the amazing progress made with V12 and the new issues that you've noticed. I can't wait to try it out myself. :)
Best video of yours to date. SF local that travels exclusively on V11 autopilot (even with pets and passengers), you picked the best locations and the hardest situations and the most appropriate ratings. Nice work!
I’m so glad you make those videos!! Been following for a while and they keep getting better, just like FSS! Thank you!
I just found your channel.. first timer here :-). The in-car camera angle your using is awesome, it hides the driver perfectly. It give a glimpse into what it truly might be like to drive a car in future... with the owner in the passenger seat, and no one else in the car.
Very excited for more v12 videos by the one and only AI DRIVR.
Excellent work! Man, I can't imagine the kind of time and work it took to edit this video together.
love the comparison drive! Good content as always.
Great video loved the comparison. Wish we had your usual camera setup
Excellent demonstration. Thanks to the both of you.
Thank you for this awesome comparison video!
Thanks again for another very informative and entertaining video! Truly outstanding. Also, I completely agree that if this is the performance we are seeing in a dense urban environment from V12 after just 1 year of development, imagine how it will be in a few years.
Thanks for putting this together! My biggest concern with V11 is getting rear-ended due to its unexpected behaviors, and I'm glad to see that reflected prominently in this comparison. Very well done. Props to AI DRIVR & Whole Mars.
Great video! Very much appreciated! I am so happy when you show me V12.
Thank you for showing this! Its very interesting to see the differences this way.
brilliant, insightful and very helpful remarks to better understand what's going on, thanks!
Great job AID. Compiling these together is your forte but even so, I imagine it took a while. And great commentary as always. Cheers.
You nailed it on this one, there's a massive step change improvement here
Absolutely insane! Amazing video. Can't wait to see how much it'll improve since it can only get better!
Very well done! Perfect overview of the differences between the 2 versions.
Thanks for the comparison. I live in Iowa where traffic rarely gets that crazy for me. V11 does fairly well. However, I am an aggressive driver so I disengage a lot to pass people, make it through stop lights etc. Looking forward to level 5 when I can sleep while it's driving!
Excellent! What a great comparison video.
Thanks for the transparency. Great video.
Comment to drive the engagement algorithm. Thank you for showing us the limitations of FSD12. Can't wait for it to be widely available - so the FSD13 based on FSD12 training in real world would be human level.
Thanks. Very well done. Looking forward to version 12 as well.
So good to get ur commentary. Thanks for sharing!
This made me more excited for V12. Seeing it side by side made it really obvious
Loved the summary at the end. Good content.
I’m happy v12 delivered as expected. Let’s hope Dojo is ready to pick up the pace
from Elons comments it sounds like Nvidia is more likely to be picking up the pace...
@@Martinmack333 yea, I loosely refer to dojo regardless of chip provider (mostly Nvidia, some Tesla, and AMD starting )
Great summary of where V12 is at right now. Truly excellent video. Thanks brother.
Thanks for the editing. I saw the raw footage on @WholeMars and it must have been a lot of work. Great work btw. I have to say, I now have way for faith that v12 will be actually better after seeing your analysis.
I like that you made comparison video
Very good video that doesn’t only cover pro’s but also con’s. Appreciate your balanced review.
V12 is truly impressive. Wow!
Currently, FSD v12 is still too hesitant in its road response. In many places, the handling is a bit slow, the braking and acceleration are not smooth enough, and there are too many unnecessary stops and starts...
fantastic video, really well put together - thank you.
great to see the differences, future for Tesla FSD looks amazing.
Quality video as always. I was disappointed when whole mars released your video without any commentary, but this is what I wanted!
Very nice comparison, thanks for sharing!
Thanks for doing this! Entertaining and very exciting to see!
Appreciate that, thank you. Pleasure to meet you as well
Such an excellent video! Thanks!
I trust your assessments so much more than the ones of others (incl. Omar's), since they are very openly and factually discussing good AND bad aspects of the drives, whereas others at times talk as if everything is perfect already and appear to cherry-pick their footage.
Very cool seeing the comparison! :)
I bet this episode was so much fun to make, but also frustrating as more things had to come together :). Awesome crossover episode :).
Wow this is truly the best self driving car I have seen AMAZING WORK TESLA !🎉🎉
Great comparison. Hope you get yours soon.
Thx for comparing the versions, excellent idea. One question.. you have never mentioned bad weather. My Model 3 has often problems here with obstructed cameras while snowing or heavy rain. And myself I truly hate wiping the back camera all the time from mud. Does Tesla even plan to do something about it? Mini camera wipers perhaps?
Great compare. Thanks guys
I hope I get it soon! I am really looking forward to trying it out and giving feedback!
I’ve had this Plaid for almost a year but waiting for v12 update.
This version and the progress it's made is ASTONISHING. Wow, I did not expect it to be that good.
Glad to hear someone more objective than Omar.
By “objective” do you mean more to your liking?
@tatata1543 Objective means objective.
@@kdub1666 That’s true, thanks for stating the bleeding obvious 😂. My response is that bullshit is bullshit.
@@tatata1543 I mean Omar will just glaze the system no matter what, just look at 20:17 at how far he will let the system go without intervening
Omar has never been objective about anything Tesla. @@tatata1543
Great video! I loved the "1 HUMAN HOONNKK" on the v12 scoreboard.
10/10 production, 10/10 analysis. however I've watched way too many FSD vids till now to get hyped about "oh wow this version's much better"
Finally
A Tesla with V12 engine
Great video AIDriver. Ver 12 seems like it may make FSD actually worth buying. I hope you get it soon as you are my most trusted source for FSD information.
What mode do you typically run in? I will use mild generally but would be good to caption the mode for your drives as well.
YES! This is what we've been waiting for!
That hard left and back to the right at 14:08 has an additional input: the Motorcycle that appears in the right mirror and on the screen. Ego could be adjusting for the traffic density at that intersection... and giving the motorcycle extra room in case of an error. See if you agree?
Amazing comparison
Very good vid, good explanation of version 12 and the comparison to version 11.
the comfort score is good cause the amount of sounds u were making was so funny
Thanks!!!
I don’t know how Omar’s old V11 drives were always SO perfect and intervention free as he regularly claimed? Lil exaggeration maybe??
Your V11 SF drive resembles many of the aspects of frustrations and short-comings I have and would likely have in the Bay Area too.
Thanks for showing us an accurate representation of how FSD V11 actually works in SFO.
He wouldn't take the much more challenging routes and time of day like these were
Hmmm….ok
Omar has zero credibility on FSD. V11 proved it.
Love this video. Great idea. ❤
The coolest thing is that it will only get better has more and more people drive it as it will continue to learn.
Amazing update!
Great video, thanks.
Your videos are FIRE!!!
Fascinating to see the differences. If anything I just wish the video included more unedited footage from v12, similar to the long clips of v11.
Great video. Does the driver no longer need to hold the steering wheel in V12? I assume this uses data from Teslas driving so what happens in areas that not many Teslas have driven previously like in rual areas?
Considering the power needed for steering wheel/yoke movements, V12 should save some considerable battery power, right? Or is the milling of the yoke completely negligible?
Did you also get reminiscent of K.I.T.T.'s black cockpit (from Knight Rider) when seeing the color scheme of the "V11 vs. V12" results at the end of the video?
Glad to see more videos great work
Really appreciate it coopman, thank you!
Looking good my friend! I just realized I've never seen your face before.
Does your model s 75d or model y drive the best? And which one feels quieter or more premium
Thank you for your reviews of FSD. They’ve been VERY helpful and entertaining.
If you have time, I have questions about how Tesla’s Hardware 4 (HW 4.0) might impact driving safety and FSD performance.
Does Autopilot, Autosteer or FSD work better with HW 4.0? Perhaps fewer errors?
Is it likely that HW 4.0 will perform better than HW 3.0 with accident avoidance? Better nighttime or inclement weather performance?
great video!
I doubt they could have built V12 without V11. So i doubt the work was in vain at all.
Thanks for your videos , always a joy
A lot of the infrastructure around it is still used, but there is a TON of wasted work. They could theoretically have switched over a bit earlier, perhaps early 2022, but this is easy to say in hind sight. Wayve is a startup that did realize ealier, and had some impressive demos, but didn't have the scale necessary to push through.
Amazing work! I second someone else’s question here - what FSD profile were you both using? Chill, Medium, Assertive? Thanks in advance! -FSD11 M3 Driver
Can't wait to get V12 warts and all. Looks amazing.
Great edit with the comparison v11 vs v12, so much better with commentary and the clips one after the other on the same section (than just watching the raw videos side by side on Whole Mars channel which I did before)
The stark contrast is not only a testament for us who said it will get better, but also for everyone who deemed previous versions crappy. Everyone can rejoice in "TOLD YOU SO!"
Documenting this is genius!!
Nice job man.
Love it, but curious how it does in rough weather/snow
firstly thanks for the effort you put into your videos, i really enjoy them, secondly i noticed your voiceover is out of sync, previous video at ~0.3s too slow, and this one at ~0.25s too slow, i didn't break my brain trying to sync it perfectly, but it's around there, looking forward to V12 videos ♥
Great detailed explanations..I’m part of the crew where I paid 2 years ago for summon, smart summon, park assist but none of them work..partly because I’m in Germany..