We Destroyed 6 Of The Best Bicycle Locks

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  • More bicycle locks from Kryptonite, Hiplok and Litelok, tested to destruction. Want to see other stuff tested? Let us know in the comment section down below.
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Komentáře • 812

  • @dropatrain
    @dropatrain Před rokem +298

    At some point the locks will be so good and expensive it'll be worth cutting the bike to steal the lock!

    • @a1white
      @a1white Před rokem +11

      Those last 2 Litelocks are probably worth more than my trusty hybrid 😅

    • @geegee8625
      @geegee8625 Před 11 měsíci +15

      ​@@a1whitemy bike is £400, but my 2 locks are D1000 + Litelok x3 for combined price £475.

    • @SB-hr5yr
      @SB-hr5yr Před 3 měsíci +1

      With ebikes or more expensive bikes it's probably worth cutting the frame and either selling the parts or bodging a frame repair later to sell to some unsuspecting.

    • @TheSixthSLoT
      @TheSixthSLoT Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@SB-hr5yr That's my worry. I want to buy the Hiplock they showed at the end here, but my bike is a step through frame, and the only real place to fit that lock is between the small gap where the seat post is and the suspension. I worry that someone may just cut through my suspension and eat the cost of replacing it to get my bike.

    • @NocteNoir
      @NocteNoir Před 2 měsíci

      But without key what can they do? It's just there

  • @tonystrange7224
    @tonystrange7224 Před rokem +264

    A guy in our club always took the quick release skewers out of his wheels on cafe stops. He figured if they lifted his bike the wheels falling out would be enough to deter them and they’d drop the bike and leg it. Then one day it happened thief grabbed his bike but tried to ride it away within seconds back wheel came out, rear mech locked, thief went flying, got up and ran. He got his back back but with a wrecked rear mech. Said it was worth it.

    • @davemason2290
      @davemason2290 Před rokem +34

      I used to ride a fixed gear. One place I used to lock it was on the top of a hill with the brakes released. It was never stolen but I got the idea from my dad whose bike was stolen with serious conveniences for the thief

    • @maxgomila8209
      @maxgomila8209 Před rokem +2

      Wear body armour.

    • @mynameisyasser
      @mynameisyasser Před rokem +7

      That is a brilliant idea. Thanks for sharing that. Top stuff.
      I used to tighten the brake cable so much that the brake-pads wouldn't let the wheels move.

    • @wildbikerbill6530
      @wildbikerbill6530 Před rokem +4

      @@davemason2290 "serious conveniences" or "serious consequences" ? There is a difference!

    • @uncrunch398
      @uncrunch398 Před rokem +1

      @@mynameisyasser Now there are locks that do that. But they're obvious handle bar locks that hold down the lever. If your idea can be done quick enough and correctly adjusted for yourself quick enough it would be worth it. There might also be an issue if you have to avoid danger. What can you do to secure your bike and leave on it quickly enough to get away?

  • @CC-zm9fw
    @CC-zm9fw Před 10 měsíci +253

    SUMMARY of the best locks' performance
    [N.B. I have noted the 'cutting time' as Minutes:Seconds so 1min 15 seconds would be noted as 1:15]
    2:00-2:30
    over a minute to cut a thick Kryptonite extender cable because it resisted the bolt croppers well
    2:48-3:49
    3:02 to angle grind the Superbright chain because it moves around so much
    3:49-4:34
    1:09 to cut the Kryptonite Fahgedaboutit
    4:34-6:25
    3:44 to cut the Litelok X1 (cutting time only - not including time to change the discs)
    6:35-8:47
    Over 10mins to cut the Hiplok D1000 (cutting time only - not including time to change the discs and batteries!)

    • @damoknows1543
      @damoknows1543 Před 10 měsíci +8

      I hope they're paying you my man

    • @BurhBurhBurh
      @BurhBurhBurh Před 10 měsíci +18

      Litelok requires a diamond disc, thief would have to be prepared.

    • @satamique
      @satamique Před 9 měsíci

      Thank you!

    • @jc2685
      @jc2685 Před 9 měsíci +7

      how long does it take to change discs, surely it would have been better including disc change time

    • @Mcree114
      @Mcree114 Před 9 měsíci +8

      @@BurhBurhBurh They're likely only carrying one cheap disc to save cash because it works on most cheap Amazon/Walmart locks anyway.

  • @danielwason1184
    @danielwason1184 Před rokem +395

    As a welder and metal worker I've done a lot of cutting with angle grinders and discs. I'm fairly sure that all that yellow dust was from the abrasive disc itself as it turned to dust, and they do smell really gross.

    • @AverageReviewsYT
      @AverageReviewsYT Před rokem +3

      Wrong

    • @evanuribe6353
      @evanuribe6353 Před rokem +111

      Ah yes. "Wrong," explains everything.

    • @johnnyloco11
      @johnnyloco11 Před rokem +7

      that would make sense as the dust didn't appear this time and they were using different discs

    • @AverageReviewsYT
      @AverageReviewsYT Před rokem +2

      Daniel. Your wrong. My comment… explains everything. 🍻

    • @joetuktyyuktuk8635
      @joetuktyyuktuk8635 Před rokem +8

      As a welder/fabricator with 30 years experience using zip discs I'll back up my brother welder... the disintegration was most likely caused by mis-alignment of the disc with the cut.

  • @philipwebster6913
    @philipwebster6913 Před rokem +139

    I guess that most bike thieves quickly learn to recognise the tougher locks and then simply cut through the structure that you've locked the bike to instead - maybe a test of these staples/racks could be the next security video?

    • @OMGWTFLOLSMH
      @OMGWTFLOLSMH Před 11 měsíci +33

      @@LaOwlett - The problem is that they don't punish thieves. Use the Saudi Arabia or Iranian method of theft deterrent.

    • @tero1422
      @tero1422 Před 10 měsíci +17

      Lock your bike in to lamp post if possible. Thieves won't cut through that or they will think again because electricity.

    • @Orcinus24x5
      @Orcinus24x5 Před 10 měsíci +42

      @@tero1422 Good luck getting a U-lock to fit around a lamp post.

    • @Big_Red_Dork
      @Big_Red_Dork Před 10 měsíci +3

      ​@@Orcinus24x5you use a nice thick chain for that. Sure you're adding another 5lbs to your rig, but it's still worth it imo

    • @likewater1429
      @likewater1429 Před 8 měsíci +11

      ​@@Big_Red_Dorkthen the lamp post and d lock would be useless as the chain is easier to cut through.

  • @tyneskipper
    @tyneskipper Před rokem +231

    here in Cambridge angle grinders are a common sight with bike thieves. my worry has always been that if i went to stop someone doing this (as we have zero police presence in the city) that i'd be attacked with an angle grinder. good vid guys

    • @vasharol
      @vasharol Před rokem +2

      Darren Valentine and Co

    • @ChrisP978
      @ChrisP978 Před rokem +49

      You get one free hit so make it count.

    • @palmer3977
      @palmer3977 Před rokem +17

      @@ChrisP978 Sod that imagine getting stabbed over a bike that is not even yours.

    • @Nathan-1234
      @Nathan-1234 Před rokem +12

      there are videos where thieves chase people away wielding angle grinders, only a matter of time until contact is made

    • @lemonshire1
      @lemonshire1 Před rokem +1

      also from cambridge, well known for bike thieves obviously

  • @HiplokBikeLocks
    @HiplokBikeLocks Před rokem +394

    Great Video Guys! P.s. We don't hate you 😉

    • @ryanridesbikes1978
      @ryanridesbikes1978 Před rokem +11

      Video obviously sponsored by Hiplok 🙄

    • @Cade_Media
      @Cade_Media  Před rokem +105

      No, sponsored videos have to be declared Ryan.

    • @niekversteege
      @niekversteege Před rokem +40

      @@Cade_Media Why do they have to be declared Ryan? Why not George or John.

    • @Cade_Media
      @Cade_Media  Před rokem +39

      @@niekversteege no Beatles

    • @jonharries7101
      @jonharries7101 Před rokem +4

      @@Cade_Media Did you use the diamond disc on the D1000, seen other videos where they used several normal discs and 2 or 3 batteries & 20 minutes to cut through the lock, this seemed a lot quicker

  • @markreams3192
    @markreams3192 Před rokem +214

    I’ve come to the conclusion after 50 years of cycling that if a thief wants your bike they will get it. The last lock you tested will probably deter 90% of thieves but there’s always that 10% that will defeat even that lock. The thieves you need to worry about are those that know you have nice bikes and come up with a plan on how to steal them. The best defense is the best locks you can get and very good insurance!

    • @iamtoast3397
      @iamtoast3397 Před rokem +95

      And always lock up next to a nicer bike with a cheaper lock 😆

    • @randallgd
      @randallgd Před rokem +19

      How about a safe way to lock bikes on hitch mout bike rack? Recently had $10,000 worth of bikes stolen off a thule T2 pro hitch mount bike rack using their tiny cable lock that was part of the bike rack. It happened when traveling on the back of our car when stopped to do a thirty min hike where no bikes were allowed. Been thinking some way to rig up two beefy chain locks like Hiplok. I know no system is perfect. Just want to be able to leave them on the car for a few hours say at national park parking lot or the like. Bikes won't fit in the car with all our camping gear. Any ideas would be super helpful! Thank you in advance!

    • @markreams3192
      @markreams3192 Před rokem +23

      @@randallgd I have that same rack on the back of my travel trailer. The lock that comes with that rack is very flimsy. I use the Kryptonite New York lock with the heavy chain with the rack lock. After this video I may switch to the Hiplock. Sounds like the thief followed you then grabbed your bikes as soon as you left the car. I think a van without windows would be the best. Build a rack inside the van but still lock the bikes up. Out of sight out of mind!

    • @cwmoo
      @cwmoo Před rokem +9

      Thieves in the bay area, california have started scouting neighborhoods to see who has $10k+ bikes in their garages and breaking into them at night with very specialized tools. They drive a big cargo van into residential neighborhoods and hit a bunch of houses at once.

    • @randallgd
      @randallgd Před rokem

      @@markreams3192 Your spot on

  • @davidspitzwegerich2533
    @davidspitzwegerich2533 Před rokem +73

    How about a video on tracking devices? Since only realy expensive and heavy locks deliver proper security, this seems to make a lot of sense

    • @shushuyu
      @shushuyu Před rokem +8

      yep. when it comes to be able to do something the tracking devices are a better option. once an alert is sent you can call the cops or confront them yourself-most likely don't do it unless you REALLY can fight even then it's not a given that they're unarmed. the best thing to do is to top locks upon locks LMAO! i always bring two ulocks. one chain. a wheel lock with an alarm system. its obviously not theft proof but..its enough for me to take action. 👿

    • @pault1289
      @pault1289 Před rokem +9

      ​@@shushuyu you'd be on your own here in the UK, bike theft is basically decriminalised. The police don't have enough time to investigate it, you just get a crime number and claim on your insurance.

    • @arnargrande1889
      @arnargrande1889 Před 11 měsíci +4

      The issue is AirTags aren't actually made for tracking stolen items so the thief gets the notification that an AirTag is traveling with them and throws it out.

    • @xavp76
      @xavp76 Před 9 měsíci +4

      @@arnargrande1889 It seems that the notification is sent only when the bike arrive at the thief's home or most frequent location. So u still know the thief's home adress, which is pretty nice. And that's if he owns an iphone !

    • @ropacons
      @ropacons Před 5 měsíci

      @@arnargrande1889 use a GPS tracker with a sim card. Even when to bike is locked inside a building you'll know its last location. In addition use a bike alarm

  • @toastie1648
    @toastie1648 Před rokem +76

    I bought the Hiplok gold because of how convenient it is to carry about and keep on my person permanently but seeing it take a while to be cut through just fills me with more confidence in it.

    • @helgarivers6281
      @helgarivers6281 Před rokem +8

      Same here.

    • @crack_squirrels
      @crack_squirrels Před rokem

      Most D-Locks you can just pop on your frame !

    • @belbo1221
      @belbo1221 Před rokem +4

      I wouldn't get that confident - thieves commonly work in teams, and it only needs one of them to hold the thing steady while the other cuts it with the grinder. Then it will last about as long as you'd expect for a 10mm chain link (i.e. a few seconds).

    • @helgarivers6281
      @helgarivers6281 Před rokem +1

      @@belbo1221 I lock my bikes in my backroom in my house when I'm gone, just cuzz bikes are the first thing they take it seems . Thieves, what are they good for?

    • @BobRooney290
      @BobRooney290 Před rokem +3

      @@belbo1221 people are doing it wrong. get a carbon frame foldable ebike with small wheels. easy to put it in a bag or something and take it with you. never need to worry again.

  • @IFFB714
    @IFFB714 Před rokem +26

    I give this experiment a 10/10 just for that badass classic chopper bike.

  • @jcsrst
    @jcsrst Před rokem +17

    I love the bike thief casually milling about in the background observing, he's the winner here 🤣

  • @thisisadebrown
    @thisisadebrown Před rokem +27

    By the way, you should’ve kept the time it took to change the disks, I believe this is part of the protection, are they going to stand there changing discs or are they going to recognise this lock and not bother?

  • @Gidogeek
    @Gidogeek Před rokem +41

    With the strong lock you would've probably cut through the pipe which the bike was attached to faster with the angle grinder.

    • @SB-hr5yr
      @SB-hr5yr Před 3 měsíci

      I'm guessing its a cheap modern replica the way they are handling it

  • @jdjames997
    @jdjames997 Před rokem +15

    Great video, thanks for making this!! The D1000 is now $299 in the US, pretty crazy expensive lock. I guess if you can carry that much weight it’s the way to go. Thanks again, entertaining and educational 👍

    • @pault1289
      @pault1289 Před rokem

      Putin not worth it for your $500 bike, but ebikes are in the thousands, so much more important to ensure you're lock(s) are tough AF.

  • @pault1289
    @pault1289 Před rokem +2

    Great video, thanks for this. Most of us can't justify expensive locks in the hope they'll defeat thieves - it's good to see the testing. It would be helpful to see other methods of defeating locks - bypass, keverage, etc.

  • @nikanj
    @nikanj Před měsícem +11

    It seems the best way to get aways with steeling a bike it to set up a camera and pretending your filming a lock review.

  • @sarahdotcom
    @sarahdotcom Před rokem +6

    Hiplok should be giving you so many bike locks for all of the free advertising you are giving them!

  • @themeatpopsicle
    @themeatpopsicle Před rokem +62

    There are a couple different attack vectors that can be successful against u-locks, namely leverage attacks and fixture attacks (cutting the rack instead of the lock). Would love to see more in this series!

    • @telepoiss
      @telepoiss Před rokem +6

      Yeah, had the same question. How long to just saw through the bikerack and bend it enough to slip the lock off the end of it.

    • @KiliGraphics
      @KiliGraphics Před rokem +1

      For a successful leverage attack you need space as well as a lock with no double locking mechanism or being weak itself. Don't give it to thieves and your good to go.

    • @themeatpopsicle
      @themeatpopsicle Před rokem

      @@KiliGraphics that's true-ish on a superficial level, but ultimately unhelpful

    • @DTM93
      @DTM93 Před rokem +3

      What about hammer attacks? I thought most people would just hammer the lock off these easily.

  • @LinkMarioRacing
    @LinkMarioRacing Před rokem +23

    Awesome video. Should check out some folding locks next. Like the foldylock forever, which is rated gold. Would love to see other top brands like abus so we can see what ends up being the strongest in each product category.

  • @nicojar
    @nicojar Před rokem +27

    Guys! For the Hiplok => it's really easy to open with a simple rebar, as the lock (where you put the key) itself is fragile when under tension. The rest of the anti-theft device is actually quite solid but quite heavy too.
    Also: yes, for a manganese-steel chain, letting it loose is better, as it's very hard to find an angle for the grinder.
    On the other hand, if you take a u-lock => SHORT. You don't want to be able to pass a rebar in this, or worse, a jack. So U-lock = short, chain = medium or long (short will give tension, so easier to cut);

    • @zachary.hunter
      @zachary.hunter Před rokem +2

      That's really helpful! When you say the Hiplok is easy to break with a rebar, are talking about the D1000 or the Gold Superbright one?

    • @pault1289
      @pault1289 Před rokem +3

      But it's important that the chain isn't too long and can't be laid on the ground. As that makes it easier to attack.

    • @kiradotee
      @kiradotee Před 8 měsíci

      Do a video how to open it. You'll get millions of views and Hiplok themselves will look at it.

    • @llncm
      @llncm Před 7 měsíci +2

      Not convinced a rebar will open any diamond sold secure lock

  • @shopvice
    @shopvice Před rokem +48

    I’ve always thought that lock makers should wrap the locks in a sheath made from the same material chain saw chaps are filed with. That fine thread-like material is made to wad up in the chain and would wind up in cut-off wheels.

    • @jurassicchrist
      @jurassicchrist Před rokem +9

      Damn great idea, you could even sell a sleeve that fits on different locks

    • @Big_Red_Dork
      @Big_Red_Dork Před 11 měsíci +7

      Angle grinders and chainsaws operate on different cutting principles and the kevlar fibres wouldn't do much against an angle grinder. The best defense against angle grinders is thickness, denying clearance, and alternative metal alloys/materials that require specialized cutting disks. All of this adds either cost or weight and there are locks that do it, but expect to pay big $$$ to get a lock that's resistant to an angle grinder (but will ultimately likely be vulnerable to another attack like leverage or picking or whatever). Layer your defenses(ie. Chain+short U-Lock), choose good anchor points that are harder to cut than the lock itself, and spend the extra time to put the lock in that hard to reach place that's hard to install, but even harder to get a grinder, bolt cutter, or some form of leverage into.

    • @collinyan7467
      @collinyan7467 Před 9 měsíci +2

      they should put pockets of tannerite in the lock that will give any thief a real scare

    • @Big_Red_Dork
      @Big_Red_Dork Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@collinyan7467 and give you an expensive ticket to jail for using explosive booby traps. No matter that thieves like this are scum, the system wants the cops and firefighters to be able to break into your property and home safely, for your benefit or for theirs

  • @Hurc7495
    @Hurc7495 Před 10 měsíci +3

    the yellow smoke was your grinding disk floating off to heaven :D

  • @batchmotors
    @batchmotors Před rokem +7

    One of the most common ways that thieves try and steal bikes locked up with a D-Lock is to pick up the bike and rotate it attempting to use the bike as a lever to break the lock apart. I’ve seen a lot of bikes with dented/damaged top tubes because thieves have tried this! It would make a fun video!

    • @notkaty
      @notkaty Před rokem +1

      Don't think that would work well with a carbon frame

    • @3MatthewR
      @3MatthewR Před rokem +3

      omg i've just found out how they damaged my frame. I didn't quite get in until now O_O

  • @duncanmartin2626
    @duncanmartin2626 Před rokem +5

    Could you do a home security/anchor type test? It feels like loads of the more expensive bike thefts are from garages, so it would be good to see if it's possible to stop those sorts of attacks as well.

  • @rayman5704
    @rayman5704 Před rokem

    Thanks for your work! This is what I looking for

  • @kaylasaenz4628
    @kaylasaenz4628 Před 3 měsíci

    Thank you guys so much! Very helpful! 🙏

  • @jstamuggle4723
    @jstamuggle4723 Před rokem +3

    Great video! Would like for you to try the TiGr lock. They have a blue steel and titanium version. Works like a U lock but more unique construction.

  • @tristan2631
    @tristan2631 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Thanks for the video, my e-bike almost got stolen in broad daylight on main street in 250k people city/town with electric angle grinder. My lock was Abus bordo, the second best one they have. They got 1/3 through in seconds, luckily other biker heard the noise and came to the rescue. Now I'm going to buy that Litelok x1. Problem is that they are pretty much unavailable anywhere. Too much Demand?

  • @christophed4579
    @christophed4579 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Very nice test, thanks.

  • @Bukoe
    @Bukoe Před rokem +5

    The diamond Disc is for cutting Stone/concrete. it can cut iron but it sux at it .. =) The cheep discs are way better for metal but will grind down fast =) i buy boxes of 25 for work that is :P

    • @FicaGTI
      @FicaGTI Před rokem

      Good observation, I also thought that they are not using right cutting disc, maybe other ones but that blue one was for concrete/stone

  • @bsidethecside2283
    @bsidethecside2283 Před rokem +8

    How well did the new Litelok 'Barronium' coating stand up to the diamond blade? Pretty much every test to date has focussed on the established [non-diamond] cutting grinder blades. Was it effective against the diamond? The Hiplok seems to offer v. good resistance against both types, so the top-end the battle will end up as Hiplok D1000 v's Litelok X3 (with extra coating).

    • @crack_squirrels
      @crack_squirrels Před rokem +2

      Yeah I don't get this, surely thieves would just use the best diamond discs you can get seeing as they get quite a bit of money for each cut?

  • @user-cx2bk6pm2f
    @user-cx2bk6pm2f Před rokem +67

    Was that a real bike thief? If so, you guys were WAYYYY too nice.

    • @mvp_kryptonite
      @mvp_kryptonite Před rokem +14

      Precisely my thought too

    • @ItsGamein
      @ItsGamein Před rokem

      Search up "journalist privilege," journalists don't have to reveal information to courts for the sake of their stories, it's a similar concept here, just with bikes
      If they revealed the thief's identify, it compromises their ability to make a better youtube video, and weirdly, their ability to help people keep their bikes from being stolen

    • @OMGWTFLOLSMH
      @OMGWTFLOLSMH Před 11 měsíci +26

      They should have applied the bolt cutters to a few of his fingers.

  • @aznvinsanity
    @aznvinsanity Před rokem +7

    It would be interesting to see how well heavy duty chain type locks do considering how much they might move around when an angle grinder gets at them. Even potential of the blade breaking and flinging debris at the thief. Also I assume it be best practice to have some slack when using chain locks like the Krytonite New York Chain lock so that you need to find a way to brace it with something making it more of a hassle. also prevents some leverage attacks as its not a ridge piece of metal.

    • @The-KP
      @The-KP Před 10 měsíci +2

      Much like these chaps did, there was once a bike shop in Manhattan that rated the bike locks and chains it sold by the number of minutes it took to cut through then with an angle grinder. They placed circle stickers with the minutes on the packaging of each lock. They were all under 10. I instead went with the lock favored by NYC shop merchants for locking down the protective metal shutters over their store fronts each night. Case hardened shackle, combined with a case hardened anchor chain. I never lost a bike.

    • @aznvinsanity
      @aznvinsanity Před 10 měsíci

      @@The-KP Good to know, thanks for the info.

  • @jcruz5050
    @jcruz5050 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I wonder if these lock manufacturers use tungsten the hardest metal on earth, also notoriously hard to work with, I almost quit a job wher we melted all sorts of metals w/tungsten & had to keep it above 6000 degrees! It cooled so fast tho it was super frustrating trying to pour the stuff

  • @jaypoly
    @jaypoly Před rokem +1

    Haha...great fun. Love the Chopper ...had an original one.. happy mixed memories. 😂

  • @IvoPavlik
    @IvoPavlik Před 10 měsíci +2

    Fantastic test. This is what lock tests should look like. Thanks!
    Just next time end the video with a summary of the lock models, prices, times to cut through them.

    • @jackl7778
      @jackl7778 Před 7 měsíci +1

      its kind of flawed though because they put the u-locks on incorrectly. it would have been more difficult to cut them all if they locked the frame and wheel since they wouldnt have been able to raise the bike and hang it off the lock like that for stable weight tension to cut easier.

    • @IvoPavlik
      @IvoPavlik Před 7 měsíci

      @@jackl7778 fair enough

  • @nicholasreading3744
    @nicholasreading3744 Před rokem +4

    Nice video lads. What were the different weights of these locks? It's great to have a lock that's tough to get through, but how much weight are you prepared to carry everywhere with you?

  • @mattybravo9104
    @mattybravo9104 Před 4 měsíci

    Cool video, im Happy ive chosen the Hiplock Gold Superbright as my primary lock.

  • @StornofuerKasse3
    @StornofuerKasse3 Před rokem +45

    nice test. Would love to see how fast you can grind the bike stand the bike is locked on to see if that's the quicker way to steal the bike.

    • @vasharol
      @vasharol Před rokem +1

      @@liamkaloy Go to Cambridge or London and you will be surprised by how many bike thieves there are that just steal bikes openly in public places because they know that no one will stop them

    • @adriancojocaru8147
      @adriancojocaru8147 Před rokem

      @@liamkaloy czcams.com/users/shortsomwszNh36J4

    • @eoghanmyers2330
      @eoghanmyers2330 Před rokem +1

      @@liamkaloy yeah, tbh if people are confident enough to use an angle grinder then you didn't leave your bike in a good place

    • @vasharol
      @vasharol Před rokem +10

      @@liamkaloy have you not seen the video of the gang of teenagers stealing a bike from what I think was a train station with an angle grinder in the middle of the day with people watching

    • @Cade_Media
      @Cade_Media  Před rokem +12

      I think that was outside a hospital! Or maybe that was a different video. Definitely seen a few videos of thieves using angle grinders in london.

  • @seattlegrrlie
    @seattlegrrlie Před rokem +8

    Most of the time, any lock outside a cafe or on your vehicle is enough to deter theft. My friend got her bike stolen leaning it outside a coffee shop. A determined theif with time and planning will get your bike no matter the lock system

  • @ginacardarella
    @ginacardarella Před 11 měsíci +1

    Great video would love to see you guys show us how to lock our bikes up so it's harder for thieves

  • @peteturner8493
    @peteturner8493 Před rokem +5

    Well done, I never understood why diamond discs never got used when attempting to cut thru higher graded locks on other CZcams videos. I own several ebikes but never leave those unattended or any of my other bikes.

    • @Orcinus24x5
      @Orcinus24x5 Před 10 měsíci +3

      Diamond discs are actually pretty lousy for cutting through steel. With the elevated heat of cutting, the carbon in the diamond wants to alloy with the iron in the steel, and it tends to wear out fast.

    • @peteturner8493
      @peteturner8493 Před 10 měsíci

      @@Orcinus24x5 What about the steel discs impregnated with diamond i use go through concrete & steel no issues?

  • @malte7229
    @malte7229 Před rokem

    The new dynamic is refreshing

  • @leejefferson7011
    @leejefferson7011 Před rokem

    Great video, I loved all the science lingo! 😂

  • @monopolyn
    @monopolyn Před rokem

    ah yess my fave Cade series, bike lock tests

  • @pablomedina4329
    @pablomedina4329 Před rokem +1

    So, could you test one of the abus locks that have alarms, the ones that are like a few flat pieces of metal riveted together, i use one without the alarms for mexico city with a cable for the front wheel and so far i haven't had any issues

  • @Omar_-5
    @Omar_-5 Před 9 měsíci

    Yup I'm getting the light lock x1 and the hiplok

  • @amak7106
    @amak7106 Před rokem +2

    I'm curious to know how a thick braided cable, say 3/4 in, would fare if it replaced the steel shackle of a u-lock. Would a mix of aluminum and steel wires screw up an angle grinder by 'lubricating' the disc? Or maybe a braided cable in parallel with a steel shackle. Anyhow, it seems like a layer of aluminum would mess up any grinder.

  • @willparsons9551
    @willparsons9551 Před rokem

    Love the content as usual. Can you do a tyre update for 2023. The Scott Tuned on tubes and tubeless as it’s a banging all rounder you could compare a wide variety from road slick to gravel? Fancy that?

  • @Listen2mycreep
    @Listen2mycreep Před 6 měsíci

    I used a chain a lot like the hiplock back when I was in college almost every day for 4.5 years. The one time I left it over a weekend outside the gym, I came back to find handlebars, wheels and seat all missing. But my chain and frame were still there!

  • @hjwatso1
    @hjwatso1 Před rokem +5

    Ha, love your new friend - well not, but an interesting addition to the team! I bought the Hiplok massively expensive lock because of your review, I also told one of the founders that's why I wanted in. They should love you. Sorry, they don't like you. Litelok core would be a good test and also, as you say, does how you lock your bike up make a difference?

  • @Velobetty
    @Velobetty Před rokem +1

    I've just ordered a LITELOK X3 with the hope it's solid enough to withstand a bit of angle-grinding!

    • @geegee8625
      @geegee8625 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Make sure your putting it through the back wheel and frame and bike stand also definitely put a alarm on your bike, I have X3 and D1000 and have 3 alarms
      So peace of mind is at 99%

  • @mrkiosk245
    @mrkiosk245 Před rokem

    I love the face shield and then the cut to the shorts😂

  • @Havana-man
    @Havana-man Před 4 měsíci +2

    Make the locks all like cash-in-transit boxes and when the lock is half cut through, it releases a load of orange die which covers the thief and won't come off, including their skin.

    • @RichRotorhead
      @RichRotorhead Před měsícem

      There is one that releases a foul smell of I recall

  • @xowaspxowasp5772
    @xowaspxowasp5772 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Portable oxy acetylene. No noise, just a heat signature 👍

  • @PurePresentations
    @PurePresentations Před rokem +5

    I use a couple of LiteLoks, it'd be interesting to see how they fair in one of these tests.

    • @orion7741
      @orion7741 Před 11 měsíci +1

      did you watch the video?? i ask you that because they did test a LiteLok in this video....

  • @Likelybiking
    @Likelybiking Před rokem +3

    Look up the Altor SAF lock. It has an aluminum outer with a steel core so that it ruins the cutting discs.

  • @Snaily
    @Snaily Před rokem +1

    I've had 3 Fahgettaboutits. The first 2, I walked up to my bike as people were going at them with an angle grinder. If I'd only had my Keeper that day, those 30 seconds would've been the difference between me walking home that day and me cycling home. These days I use both D locks and chains for stays more than a couple of minutes.

    • @rited
      @rited Před 2 měsíci

      Damn what bike do you have? I have a pricey fixed gear with a standard New York bike lock in London, never stolen in 12 years

  • @grahambell9831
    @grahambell9831 Před rokem

    Top video on the south bank of the Tyne gents 👏.
    Security locks used at home as a test vlog Francis? That way you could test home made locks and motor cycle chain locks? Your not wrong about the one way systems in Newcastle! 😯😅

  • @PINACI
    @PINACI Před 6 dny

    Barronium is grinder resistant which the Litelok X1 and X3 have as well as the D1000

  • @frazergoodwin4945
    @frazergoodwin4945 Před rokem +6

    You get to the stage of the lock being just WAY harder to cut than whatever it is attached to. Be interesting next time to see how fast you can cut the Sheffield stand bike rack...

  • @larissalisboa4318
    @larissalisboa4318 Před 7 měsíci

    what is the best material for a lock?

  • @iane2983
    @iane2983 Před rokem +5

    Another option is just to get another really cheap bike with a decent lock you can use when you know you need to go somewhere and leave your bike outside for a while.

  • @Velobetty
    @Velobetty Před rokem

    Another great testing video! I was thinking about the Abus Granit Extreme 59 lock, could you test-cut one of those for me? 😁

  • @randallgd
    @randallgd Před rokem +1

    How about a safe way to lock bikes on hitch mout bike rack? Recently had $10,000 worth of bikes stolen off a thule T2 pro hitch mount bike rack using their tiny cable lock that was part of the bike rack. It happened when traveling on the back of our car when stopped to do a thirty min hike where no bikes were allowed. Been thinking some way to rig up two beefy chain locks like Hiplok. I know no system is perfect. Just want to be able to leave them on the car for a few hours say at national park parking lot or the like. Bikes won't fit in the car with all our camping gear. Any ideas would be super helpful! Thank you in advance!

  • @HypocritesExposd
    @HypocritesExposd Před 4 měsíci

    Thank you so much for this video! I learned so much and I’m sure I can make more money in my selling business than ever before!

  • @andrewtran5727
    @andrewtran5727 Před 5 měsíci

    Watching you angle grinder the hiplok d1000. If it is going to take that long to cut through it. Won't it be faster to just cut through whatever it is bolted too?

  • @mihaelachiscovici
    @mihaelachiscovici Před 9 měsíci

    Very sturdy and heavy bike!!!

  • @donaldtank
    @donaldtank Před rokem

    How many locks would make it to much trouble to get the bike and how can I lock up my hesa tango delta trike recumbent?

  • @obionemoreslice2479
    @obionemoreslice2479 Před rokem

    More stuff like this please 🙏

  • @alextorresphoto
    @alextorresphoto Před rokem +1

    You should time how long it takes to remove the bolts from the floor of the rack. In NYC some racks are loose and people forget to check, and then come back to find the rack on the floor and the bike gone.

  • @af6690
    @af6690 Před rokem +2

    Could you try out the hiplok dx sold secure diamond for bicycles. Sold secure gold for motorbike lock. Sold on amazon. Thank you

  • @notl33t
    @notl33t Před rokem +1

    LOL my protection is that my bike is not the nicest in the rack. Now that I know about Hiplok, I'll definitely think about that for the next lock.

  • @carsone475
    @carsone475 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Great video, I would be curious how these locks do against a hydraulic wire cutter

  • @maumor2
    @maumor2 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Most bike thieves work in groups, one guy has the grinder and goes thru 2 or 3 bikes on a rack while others wait and jump in the bikes as soon as he is done. Besides my usual chain lock (always prefer a chain, they are not easy to cut because they move too much for the disc to get a steady angle) I always have two padlocks attached to multiple spokes upfront and one that links the chain to the frame in the rear) I once found my bike laying next to the rack, chain was cut I guess they panicked when the whole thing wouldn't move

  • @thebennyball
    @thebennyball Před rokem +20

    Why did you go to all this hassle and expense and then not standardise the test?
    It's commonly known that a diamond cutting disc will outperform others, so if a theif is walking around with an angle grinder I'm sure they would have a diamond disc.

    • @orion7741
      @orion7741 Před 11 měsíci +1

      no. diamond discs do nothing against hardened steel. they are really only effective against ceramic and concrete. the regular abrasive based cutoff wheels are still the best for steel and metals.

    • @thebennyball
      @thebennyball Před 11 měsíci

      @@orion7741 It doesn't matter what the disc is made from, they are all abrasive as its the mechanism used for cutting.
      The harder the material, the more resistant it is to wear; therefore it can cut harder for longer, assuming it can cope with the heat generated.
      Diamond is >4 times the hardness of cobalt steel, and the specific heat capacity is ~10-50% greater.
      Therefore a diamond disc will certainly cut hardened steel and perform better than a steel only disc in all cases

    • @dave83x
      @dave83x Před 11 měsíci

      @@thebennyball vids are for fun lol

    • @Orcinus24x5
      @Orcinus24x5 Před 10 měsíci +5

      @@thebennyball Sorry, but you are incorrect. Hardness is not the only consideration for cutting steel. The problem with diamond cutting discs when used to cut steel is that the carbon (which is what diamond is solely made out of) wants to alloy with the iron in the steel as you're cutting it. This leads to premature wear of the diamond, and a diamond cutting disc only has a thin layer of diamond applied to it. Once it's gone, it's gone. Aluminum oxide (and all other cutting discs for that matter) are self-sharpening all the way through as you use up the disc. A plain aluminum oxide cutting disc will ALWAYS cut steel faster than a diamond disc. Diamond tooling used on angle grinders is intended only for masonry (brick, concrete, cinderblocks, etc.) and glass.

  • @bionicgeff
    @bionicgeff Před rokem +12

    They should have some bear spray in these locks so it sprays yo face when u cut them

    • @chickenpoodle
      @chickenpoodle Před rokem

      if i recall correctly, something similar was included in one lock design, which prompted many examinations from a legal perspective and it was deemed illegal. which is why we haven't seen any other iterations of such a lock. i may be mistaken. but yes i'm with you on this. i loved the idea.

    • @unsafevelocities5687
      @unsafevelocities5687 Před rokem

      @@chickenpoodle Not arguing with you, but I have no idea why that should be illegal. If one has to commit an illegal act in order to be "hurt", then it's just deserts. Who are we trying to protect with laws like this, the thieving rats or the bike's owner?

  • @SuperRichie200
    @SuperRichie200 Před 11 měsíci

    😂just bought a hiplock. Respect guys am in Newcastle too. Subscribed

  • @Renbits
    @Renbits Před 9 měsíci +1

    id love to see u test chain locks like the EVOLUTION 1090 or the evolution 1275 from kryptonite

  • @ericguizzetti
    @ericguizzetti Před 15 dny

    2:00-2:30
    over a minute to cut a thick Kryptonite extender cable because it resisted the bolt croppers well
    2:48-3:49
    3:02 to angle grind the Superbright chain because it moves around so much
    3:49-4:34
    1:09 to cut the Kryptonite Fahgedaboutit
    4:34-6:25
    3:44 to cut the Litelok X1
    6:35-8:47
    Over 10mins to cut the Hiplok D1000

  • @Jaaaaaffff
    @Jaaaaaffff Před rokem +5

    "My ears hurt." Wear eye AND hearing protection. ALWAYS.

  • @user-bs1ds3ik9h
    @user-bs1ds3ik9h Před měsícem +1

    The Best Lock is that you can not brake throw it .
    It's called ABUS
    Granite Super Extreme 2500/165HB230.
    Special Tungsten Carbide Material Increases.
    Made in Germany
    Rated 15+

    • @dangrth
      @dangrth Před 17 dny

      From some tests, it's more fragile against diamond discs than the x3 and the DX1000 though. It's also awfully heavy.

  • @debelifratar
    @debelifratar Před rokem +1

    What's the smallest oxy acetylene torch kit one can get? Asking for a friend 🙈

  • @MIGUZZZZ
    @MIGUZZZZ Před 4 měsíci

    For the next video about this topic I’d love to see a collab with the one and only “Lockpickinglawyer” 😂😂😂😂

  • @DarenC
    @DarenC Před rokem +4

    Are bike locks easier to cut through than Sheffield stands?

  • @richH1625
    @richH1625 Před 11 měsíci

    Is there a link to some stats like
    weight size time cost name link/buy

  • @aluxtaiwan2691
    @aluxtaiwan2691 Před 10 měsíci +1

    The strength of a chain are as strong as the weakest link.
    Lock picking and bypass are actually even easier way to get it open. It would be nice to send them to the lock picking professional to do an ultimate test.

  • @lazmotron
    @lazmotron Před 8 měsíci

    Great Video!

  • @johnnyloco11
    @johnnyloco11 Před rokem +3

    the litelok X3 might be worth a look at. The same price as the Hiplok but apparently has better protection

    • @Cade_Media
      @Cade_Media  Před rokem +8

      Yep we’re hoping to get hold of one of these soon

    • @joecexe1
      @joecexe1 Před rokem +5

      fucking hell, £250 though xd

  • @n1ckyr930
    @n1ckyr930 Před 2 měsíci

    great vid, have you tried the litelok x3 yet?

  • @siobhanbaynes
    @siobhanbaynes Před rokem +3

    If you haven't tried it already, you should try the Altor Saf lock, the beast of all bike locks!

    • @keepingupwithjee1378
      @keepingupwithjee1378 Před rokem +1

      I just came across that one , getting that one for my scooter. But I never leave my scooter outside . Only time I probably will need to lock it is when I’m at the gym . I will carry my scooter up and down flights of stairs before leaving outside.

  • @sk8terjoe98
    @sk8terjoe98 Před 8 měsíci

    Did you guys do the Altor SAF lock yet? If not, you should try and break into that one as well.

  • @bikeman123
    @bikeman123 Před 8 měsíci +1

    In London bike theives just cut through the railings. Best you can hope is that someone videos them because no one ever intervenes.

  • @goofyfuhh5877
    @goofyfuhh5877 Před 8 měsíci

    U have a huge flaw in all of these locks if they have a grinder what’s stopping them from just cutting the pipe the bike is locked to ?

  • @PatisserieRoyale
    @PatisserieRoyale Před 11 měsíci +1

    Great video! Could you guys try to cut with grinder a diamond rated u lock? Its the Oxford Shackle 14 mm Pro U-Lock

  • @gepardtilly
    @gepardtilly Před 11 měsíci +1

    Can you test the Altor Lock SAF? Test both with and angle grinder and drill.

  • @WillStewart2012
    @WillStewart2012 Před rokem +3

    The problem is no matter much you spend on a lock if you see a thief wielding an angle grinder you're probably not going to approach and try to stop them. Have seen it numerous times in London

  • @ScotHarkins
    @ScotHarkins Před 6 měsíci

    I find myself wondering why not two of the mid-grade Hiplok lock chains on one bike? Two chains or locks to cut...would that add enough hassle to equate a single D1000?
    After watching LPL pick through some of these, and the ubiquity (at least in the US) of lock picking tools, I am now looking at the difficulty to pick as well as cut.

  • @BAZUHI
    @BAZUHI Před 11 měsíci

    hiplock gold which one last video you did 8mm ad 10mm was this the 12mm?