[114] What Are Security Pins??? How Do They Make Lock Picking Harder?

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  • @HelpfulLockPicker
    @HelpfulLockPicker  Před 6 lety +17

    Please Stay Tuned For More Lock Picking Home School Episodes Every Wednesday!

  • @Flyfan24
    @Flyfan24 Před 5 lety +158

    Who else is here after watching LPL and didn't understand all the terms he uses?

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  Před 5 lety +25

      Thanks for stopping by! Check out my Lock Picking Home School playlist for a more in depth how to on many of the lock picking concepts

    • @jibreel1580
      @jibreel1580 Před 4 lety +2

      @@HelpfulLockPicker how did you open those locks can you show us?

    • @Kezarim
      @Kezarim Před 3 lety +1

      Exactly.

  • @gantry289
    @gantry289 Před 6 lety +40

    Great job, going over and explaining security pins!

  • @dancoulson6579
    @dancoulson6579 Před 3 lety +15

    "And you can see it took me a little longer that time."
    He says after picking the lock in a shorter time than it would for me to find the correct key on my keyring.

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  Před 3 lety +2

      Thank you for checking it out! Not all locks always open up easily though

  • @alainaval
    @alainaval Před 3 lety +1

    You are my go to person for any on the job questions that arise. The false set has happened to me before and I suspected it was security pins but I didn't know how to handle them. Now I feel SO much more prepared for the next time. Thank you so much for doing what you do and keeping it simple and to the point. 🙂

  • @CodSubzz
    @CodSubzz Před rokem

    I watched a video of you explaining oversetting the pins, and being a beginner this is exactly the issue I was having, and you've helped me so much! Thanks😁

  • @BronxLockPicker60Rodriguez

    Hi my good friend!
    Amazing video as always, and you hit every major points in this video as far as feedback goes from security pins. We as pickers become very used to them to the point that when picking "stock" locks we tend to stumble with them! Like one of the best lock pickers in our community "PickMe 1977" once told me is to always pick "stock" locks so as not to lose the "touch" we worked so heard for in the beginning of our lock picking journey!
    Thank you HelpfulLockPicker for your continued contribution to our Locksport Community and to the Locksport as a whole!!
    Thank you for sharing!!

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  Před 6 lety +1

      Thank you for the kind words and thank you for sharing :) It really is funny how standards can be hard once your start to feel you are becoming experienced, lol.

    • @BronxLockPicker60Rodriguez
      @BronxLockPicker60Rodriguez Před 6 lety

      HelpfulLockPicker Absolutely, that's why it's important to go back and pick those so as not to lose the feel!!

  • @LockNoob
    @LockNoob Před 6 lety +10

    More great content for the beginner :-) thank you for doing this :-)

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  Před 6 lety +1

      Lock Noob thank you for the kind words. I have fun making the videos :-)

  • @Noobsterrrrr
    @Noobsterrrrr Před 2 lety

    Best video I’ve seen on this subject yet

  • @ootfan5
    @ootfan5 Před 2 lety +1

    Your Security skill increased

  • @shantahsieh432
    @shantahsieh432 Před 3 lety +8

    I did it myself. I used Woodglut woodworking plans for this.

  • @chetmanly5331
    @chetmanly5331 Před 3 lety

    Pretty straightforward, good video.

  • @thomassmith7432
    @thomassmith7432 Před 4 lety

    Well presented. I've been watching videos where the presenter says, "...false set," and you explained, perfectly, what that means. Thank you!

  • @VistarCreative
    @VistarCreative Před 2 lety

    Excellent video. You are a very good teacher!

  • @Cray2TheZ
    @Cray2TheZ Před 6 lety +6

    What an awesome guy! Thanks for making these videos!

  • @IVEEEK0203
    @IVEEEK0203 Před 3 lety

    A lot of my questions answered in a single video.

  • @arendschrikbarend
    @arendschrikbarend Před 4 lety

    MAN this is awesome. Just started 2 weeks ago and couldn't open some locks no matter how hard I tried. Watched this video with said locks in hand, and got 'em on single pin picking! Thanks!

  • @lifeonatlantis
    @lifeonatlantis Před 5 lety +1

    this was a really informative video with no fat - thanks so much!

  • @cameronball3998
    @cameronball3998 Před 5 lety +2

    Awesome video. Thank you so much for these intro videos; I am a newbie to lockpicking and they are super helpful along my journey.

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  Před 5 lety

      thank you for the kind words! I am happy to hear that they help :-)

  • @MrYTGuy1
    @MrYTGuy1 Před 4 lety

    I've actually heard several highly skilled lock pickers say the same thing about security pins. That while difficult at first once you understand them you can actually use the extra feedback they give to make picking them easier. Essentially turning a strength into a weakness.

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  Před 4 lety +2

      It is turning a strength into a weakness any sense but it also does a really great job at thwarting low-skill attacks which is where you really need to be concerned

  • @harrickvharrick3957
    @harrickvharrick3957 Před 4 lety +2

    I would have liked a closer look at how serrated pins react on picking them like you did showed it with a spool type of pin!

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  Před 4 lety +1

      I plan to do a video on that at some point but I haven't gotten there yet:(

    • @alainaval
      @alainaval Před 3 lety

      Those were my exact words after my initial praising of the video to my boyfriend

  • @usaamahelkiki
    @usaamahelkiki Před 4 lety

    @HelpfulLockPicker could you please tell me how common security pins would be, what percentage you are likely to come across them and how many security pins on average would be in a standard door lock.
    Thank you so much for your WONDERFUL WONDERFUL CZcams videos. I just picked my FIRST 3 door LOCKS TODAY!!!!! I’m so happy!! :) all because of you

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  Před 4 lety

      I think it depends on where you live, what type of lock you're working on, Etc. For example many Schlage Locks use multiple Spools, Kwikset may use 1 or 2 spools, American lock uses serrated driver, serrated keypin, and serrated spools, and many Master Locks are all standard

  • @thomas2051
    @thomas2051 Před 5 lety +1

    Very good Video for beginners
    I will share this to my Friends 👍

  • @JJ_-fp9sj
    @JJ_-fp9sj Před 2 lety

    Wonderful video, I've had these questions forever and now that I ordered my first picking set I finally decided to learn what all the words that I don't understand mean. My question is: can false sets *only* be caused by spool pins or are there other pins or situation that can cause a false set to occur?

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  Před 2 lety

      A false set can be cause by any driver pin that is not uniformly thick throughout

  • @stephenhammond1745
    @stephenhammond1745 Před 3 lety

    I agree with your statement about security pins making SSP easier. I find that now that I'm becoming more proficient at picking security pins I'm having a hard time with the standard pins. They have a totally different feel. So, strange as it may sound, I would rather have a lock filled with spools/serrated pins than with standard pins. Even 1 or 2 standard pins mixed in makes it harder.

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  Před 3 lety

      This is a normal thing most of us go through

    • @stephenhammond1745
      @stephenhammond1745 Před 3 lety

      @@HelpfulLockPicker Yeah. It's the main reason I got the Revolver. Lets you pick normal and 3 types of security pins all without the hassle of re-pinning. Saves a lot of time.

  • @davidsims5000
    @davidsims5000 Před 3 lety

    Awesome video of security pins . Got security pins for my locks but don't know which to use. Different sizes in kit .160 to .200 for kwikset.

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  Před 3 lety

      I would opt for the longer one because if you put the shorter one over very short keypins sometimes it sits below the shearline

  • @fsb1234
    @fsb1234 Před 3 lety

    Great video. Really informative and helped me learn really quickly. Thanks man!!

  • @farvatron
    @farvatron Před 3 lety

    Most helpful video EVER!!! Thanks man!

  • @lesrinehart933
    @lesrinehart933 Před rokem

    Awesome tutorial

  • @agentfourteen8574
    @agentfourteen8574 Před 3 lety

    Where is the best place to buy some pins so I can create my own locks of varying difficulty? Thank you for making your videos, I am really enjoying them.

  • @AA-co5zv
    @AA-co5zv Před 4 lety

    Amazing explanation thank you from Canada ❤️

  • @kevinkitson1569
    @kevinkitson1569 Před rokem

    Can you tell us which pin gave the false set? As someone completely new to picking I’m trying to understand the relationship of the pins in such a scenario. Thanks

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  Před rokem

      When you are put in the false set and when you go to lift the pin that put you there you will be able to tell because you will get feedback like counter rotation

  • @aratondisane
    @aratondisane Před 4 měsíci

    The multipick cutaway locks have pinning kits that come with hollow pins (there's a small hole on one side of the pin, it's not drilled through, so that way it is different to pin-in-pin or telescopic technology), does anyone know how those work? Do hollow pins interact with T-Pins somehow, are they used in combination?

  • @lesrinehart933
    @lesrinehart933 Před rokem

    Awesome information

  • @twistedmindedsniper4613
    @twistedmindedsniper4613 Před 5 lety +2

    Im a beginner. In my eyes him picking it bye zipping blew my mind

  • @Ianjowett1
    @Ianjowett1 Před 6 lety

    getting used to security ins right now and yeah too right you do get good feedback on those but still go back to practice on standard pinning too , cant to attack the dimples when my tools arrive though. need to try some wafers too ive yet to have a go at a wafer lock, im still a noob though so im sure i will get my paws on a wafer lock soon , just made friends with a guy who is a local locksmith and he has offered help , he doesnt pick though so we will swap skills , he was amazed i was into picking , he cuts locks but knows tons about how locks work and going to spend a bit of time with him , he was asking about jigglers, had a ford with a lock that he couldnt open... i did it for him in a half hour, not fast but got him into his car

  • @bills.4242
    @bills.4242 Před 4 lety +1

    Hi! thanks for all of the info! so interesting! i was wondering way hook picks dont come with "lines" on the shaft so you can see what pin position you are at.. or is that distances between pins are just to varied? thanks!

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  Před 4 lety +1

      Every lock has different spacing and also it would be hard to do without a constant insertion depth to zero out the distance

    • @bills.4242
      @bills.4242 Před 4 lety

      @@HelpfulLockPickeri see..thanks! it so hard trying to figure out what pin i'm on.. sometimes.. i guess it just comes with experience! one more question if you dont mind. sometimes i push a pin and the cylinder will sink down a little more but not enough for the lock to open.. don't know if that is good or not.. should i release tension to return the cylinder to the original spot.. or does it just depend? :)

    • @alainaval
      @alainaval Před 3 lety

      @@bills.4242 sounds like that may be because of a spool pin.

  • @darenmiller3933
    @darenmiller3933 Před 3 lety

    How much tension are you supposed to use? I understand it can vary and depends etc etc, but how much do YOU use?

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  Před 3 lety

      Apply tension until all the pins bind and decrease until only one binds and that is the number for that lock assuming all standard pins

  • @stig..locks..r956
    @stig..locks..r956 Před 6 lety

    very good info on the pins well done keep it up thanks stiglocks..r

  • @generalralph6291
    @generalralph6291 Před 5 lety

    Every man needs a bag of tricks.

  • @Eddygeek18
    @Eddygeek18 Před 4 lety

    Thanks alot for explaining, i'm thinking of getting into lock picking for fun always been interested in it and it'll be something to do while i'm bored and maybe get a job in it who knows (locksmith not thief lol)

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  Před 4 lety

      Thank you for the kind words! I am glad this helped explain you understand further:)

    • @Eddygeek18
      @Eddygeek18 Před 4 lety

      @@HelpfulLockPicker :) Just purchased my lock picking set with a basic transparent lock then a master lock with a security pin to practice

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  Před 4 lety

      @@Eddygeek18 I wish you luck :)

  • @xxXthekevXxx
    @xxXthekevXxx Před 5 lety +1

    I was hoping you’d have T pins in the video. I just saw one in LockPickingLawyer’s video #860 and was wanting to know more about them and see them in action!

  • @718vox
    @718vox Před rokem

    Do serrated pins all have the same amount of serrations?

  • @mikeodell5915
    @mikeodell5915 Před 4 lety

    Thank u.

  • @bonneytony
    @bonneytony Před 4 lety

    Good video

  • @WestCoastPat
    @WestCoastPat Před 3 lety

    Just starting out and have watched and appreciate many videos. My question concerns the diameter of the different types of pins. Are most of the locks shown in teaching videos the same diameter? Or or different diameters used in different brands of locks? Might seem dumb questions, but I have not seen it discussed. Thanks. WestCoastPat

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  Před 3 lety

      Most residential locks have the same diameter. The big difference is residential / commerical, padlock, and small pin (like the small Master Locks)

    • @WestCoastPat
      @WestCoastPat Před 3 lety

      @@HelpfulLockPicker Many thanks.

  • @NegleLir
    @NegleLir Před 6 lety +2

    Oh my effing god!! Took me TWO hours to get that damn lock open!! But I did it 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  Před 6 lety

      Negle Lir congrats, I understand the struggle, lol

    • @NegleLir
      @NegleLir Před 6 lety +1

      HelpfulLockPicker But the joy when it finaly popped open, I cant describe!!! 😂 Im a girly girl (AND broke a nail 😡👎) and Im not sure how to explain to others, going forward, why it is I can pick a lock 😂 But I didnt want to spend money on some sort of scissor to cut it open, now I only to buy a lock and remember where I put the key 😛 THANK YOU for teaching me something I NEVER thought I would need 😍

    • @NegleLir
      @NegleLir Před 6 lety

      HelpfulLockPicker BTW It wasnt this video that helped me. I watched some of your beginner videos. This one was just playing while it happened 😜

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  Před 6 lety +1

      Negle Lir I figured this one would have been an interesting place to start, lol.
      Congrats on the open and the new skill!

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  Před 6 lety +1

      PHILL DIXON some locks out up a great fight and I agree it's a lot of fun when they turn :)

  • @thomaswebster5488
    @thomaswebster5488 Před 6 lety +1

    Could anyone give me any tips?? =/
    I’ve been having trouble picking a brand new Lockwood lock (they are probably the most secured Auzzi locks) I can’t tell if I have any spools or what does any one have any tips???
    It’s a pin tumbler lock

  • @eagleeyeviewimages
    @eagleeyeviewimages Před rokem

    Awesome 👍

  • @W4ReLL
    @W4ReLL Před 5 lety

    Can you make a video on how pick locks with mushroom drivers ?

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  Před 5 lety +1

      I plan to down the road, I am currently taking a small Hiatus on the series but I plan to get back to it soon

    • @W4ReLL
      @W4ReLL Před 5 lety

      @@HelpfulLockPicker Great, can't wait to see new tutorials!
      Now I'm stuck after getting on real locks, I think I opened them with luck, I don't know what I'm doing wrong if it's too much or not tension, if the locks are too old and need lubrication or if I overset pins... But I'll definitively practice, practice, practice 😎

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  Před 5 lety +1

      Practice makes the biggest difference. Sometimes a lock being old and worn can work for or against you. The next thing I would like to get going in the series is serrated pins.

  • @GlassWolfLH
    @GlassWolfLH Před 5 lety +5

    Security pin video, and no mushrooms or T-pins shown?

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  Před 5 lety +2

      This video just covered the most common ones used

    • @GlassWolfLH
      @GlassWolfLH Před 5 lety

      @@HelpfulLockPicker Fair enough. Maybe consider doing a future video to cover any other security pin types for slightly more advanced locksport folks? Thanks for the response! Love the videos.

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  Před 5 lety +1

      @@GlassWolfLH later in the series I am going to cover more pins. My ultimate goal which won't be in the immediate feature is to start to refilm them the series and get much more specific since I have a much better setup now than when I started until I was going to do more

  • @isaac10231
    @isaac10231 Před 4 lety

    This is excellent, but next time keep your camera's focus on manual.

  • @gregtunston5162
    @gregtunston5162 Před 6 lety

    well done

  • @charlesklein7232
    @charlesklein7232 Před 3 lety

    the direction of the pins? which is up and down? the "bottom" pins that
    go into the cylinder have a point at one end and that meets the key! and
    the flat spot on top meets the top part of the lock i think you call
    the "bible" that the cylinder goes into. so its point down flat on top.
    but the rest are confusing! the spools have a thicker part on top or
    bottom which meets the cylinder? and the "T" pin has me totally
    confused? is it pointing up or down? how do you know whats pointing to
    the cylinder in the upper part? have you done a more detailed video
    showing this? i have not reviewed all your videos? also is their a
    difference between "kwickset" and "schlage" i see that the kwickset has
    not a flat but a tapered end and the schlage does not but are they the
    same "thickness?" can you use one in the other? i noticed that the spool
    pins and not labeled at all.

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  Před 3 lety

      It is sort of where you come from. In the United States Normal is pins at the top of the lock and in Europe normal is pins at the bottom of the lock. I don't like pins at the bottom of the lock because if a spring fails your whole lock can stop working.

  • @louigamez6384
    @louigamez6384 Před 5 lety +1

    These pins will make it easier to pick locks if they are serrated cuz of reverse picking

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  Před 5 lety +1

      I have done a video on reverse picking and it is not the easiest feat to consistently pull off. All serrated pins is much easier but if you add standard and spool pins it is harder. It is a fun concept that is often not brought up, thanks for sharing!

    • @louigamez6384
      @louigamez6384 Před 5 lety

      Thanks

  • @wurstofall
    @wurstofall Před 3 lety

    Where can we buy the security pins?

  • @quickplaya
    @quickplaya Před rokem

    Why not just use one of each?

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  Před rokem

      You can do whatever you would like but there is a strategy to optimize them

  • @der0keks
    @der0keks Před 3 lety

    Do all locks have security pins, and if not, why wouldn't they use them? Surely the pins all cost the same

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  Před 3 lety +1

      Not all locks use pins. They are more expensive to manufacture unfortunately

  • @emanuelcamilleri5070
    @emanuelcamilleri5070 Před 6 lety

    How do you know what pin is in the lock

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  Před 6 lety +1

      emanuel camilleri you can tell by the feedback the pin gives you when you are picking it

  • @gordmclean802
    @gordmclean802 Před 5 lety

    Is there a source for acrylic lock parts?

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  Před 5 lety

      You can buy more pins online. Which parts would you be looking for?

    • @gordmclean802
      @gordmclean802 Před 5 lety

      HelpfulLockPicker the plastic cover, a pinning kit, and the tray you use.

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  Před 5 lety

      @@gordmclean802 I got my pinning kit on CLK supply and my tray on Amazon.

    • @xxXthekevXxx
      @xxXthekevXxx Před 5 lety

      Gord Mclean you could easily fashion your own cover just cut out a piece of plastic or wood, sand it, and drill some holes into it for screws

  • @ZyteXtrabyte
    @ZyteXtrabyte Před 4 lety

    i don't have a real lock, but i have a simulator, and i got a 4 pin lock with a security pin

  • @techhelpportal7778
    @techhelpportal7778 Před 3 lety

    Why do you use comic sans

  • @shahabshafiee3333
    @shahabshafiee3333 Před 4 lety

    Great video, tired voice

  • @godzclanslay5814
    @godzclanslay5814 Před 5 lety +1

    6000th

  • @TheSilmarillian
    @TheSilmarillian Před 3 lety

    If a lock is designed by a human it can be defeated by a human single picker here :)

  • @Void-vv7mk
    @Void-vv7mk Před 2 lety

    Ok but what is a security pin :/ ?

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  Před 2 lety

      A pin that makes low skill picking attacks more difficult

    • @Void-vv7mk
      @Void-vv7mk Před 2 lety

      @@HelpfulLockPicker why thank you, very helpful :) and very accurate to my current skill level lol

  • @usaamahelkiki
    @usaamahelkiki Před 4 lety

    Can u please explain in easier words???!!!

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  Před 4 lety

      Which part?

    • @usaamahelkiki
      @usaamahelkiki Před 4 lety

      Oh dw I understood everything thx after watching 5 hrs of your nice @HelpfulLockPicker CZcams channel😁😁

  • @jeffcarter7459
    @jeffcarter7459 Před 3 lety

    Pvlb