NASA Flight Surgeon Explains How to Treat a Blood Clot in Space | WIRED
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- čas přidán 22. 05. 2024
- Let’s say you’re on an interplanetary mission to Mars, millions of miles from the nearest hospital, and something in your body goes awry. Say, a routine body scan reveals a potentially life-threatening blood clot. What on Earth, or in space I guess, do you do? Well now we have the answer to that question.
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Bro that’s such a cool job. Just imagine “oh yeah I’m a NASA flight surgeon” not even a regular surgeon, but a SPACE surgeon
I can't imagine surgery in microgravity. That sounds horrible.
Hernando Malinche wtf you weird 😂
I don’t think it’s the same as medical surgery. He says he is in charge of the astronaut’s health before, during, and after their mission. I imagine that means checking, and maintaining vitals during these time periods. Highly doubt they would risk any sort of surgery in an environment we know very little about. But maybe this comment was a joke and I look like an idiot 😂
Unfortunately, "Flight Surgeon" does not mean the physician is a surgeon. It is just a title for a physician specializing in primary care or occupational medicine.
@小柏美食秀 Sure, also heres a sub, buddy, you have potential
"So what do you do?"
"Oh, i'm a space surgeon."
Asian parents still not impressed...
it's rocket surgery after all!
"You see, their son is space surgeon! Why can't you be space surgeon instead of regular one?!"
@@stevencooper4422 lol
No, I'm a phone surgeon!
That has to be the most impressive pairing of words for a Job title
So that astronaut will never fly again. :(
He is lucky it was discovered.... also he ist not the only one
It's like being told you have one last chance to watch the sunset(every 90 minutes) before it's gone for ever. Might have made the experience as a whole a little more memorable.
Chances are that the astronaut will never fly again anyway. Odd things happened when they were in orbit to the Soyuz capsule. forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=49805.0
I don't think there is a lot of them that goes to space more than once
I mean... He's already one of a handful of human beings who have ever been into orbit.... It's kinda like saying "he doesn't get to climb mount Everest again?". It's sad but still a very lucky person.
Things we didn't expect: *SPACE SURGEON*
I will never be a surgeon, never heal a blood clot and never be an astronaut, but if the impossible happens, I now will be ready. Thanks CZcams.
The behavior of blood in space can also complicate the diagnosis due to the fact that blood has been known to travel backwards in space.
Please elaborate? Dont just leave on a cliff hanger!
W H A T
@@chef-dp7hz Yep, I completely agree. Low gravity in space made some astronauts' blood flow backwards. Microgravity made some astronauts on the International Space Station experience reversed blood flow. ... The blood changes happened in a vessel called the left internal jugular vein, one of two that normally move blood out of the head when we are lying down.Nov 15, 2019
www.newscientist.com/article/2223705-low-gravity-in-space-made-some-astronauts-blood-flow-backwards/
@@bobbycratchet3958 isn't that the same vein the surgeon mentiones the clot was in/on??
@@evafernandezresels3069 I saw that as well but I'm not sure if it was one of the internal or external jugulars but definitely in the same neighborhood. Could it lend a hand to clotting because the blood also stagnates depending on how gravity is affecting different parts of his body reacting to the environment they're in? Is the problem worse in different compartments of the ISS? Will a redesign of the ISS be warranted?
Dude in the suit looks like he wants to cry really badly but can’t because he’s talking to Wired
Jared Goode yes! I imagine his wife called just before the interview to ask for a divorce.
??? he's just speaking with passion...
Space + surgeon?? And here I was thinking it's impossible to fulfill my both of my childhood dreams simultaneously 🚀👩⚕️
َdo you still think the same?
@@littleheaven2816 I'm in medschool now haha I'd probably stick to the surgeon part
aha looking into it
Wow bro !@@derpy_blue
8:37 *megalovania starts playing*
Your moms a woman
I was literally thinking the same thing XD Quite funny that it was an ocular problem since it reminded me of sans flaming blue eye
How coincidental. I just learned about this career path in one of my academic club meetings and was pretty fascinated and did a lot of research on this and now here it is in the limelight.
Is that going to be your career? To become a Space Flight Surgeon ?
How someone go through this path in medicine career?
@@almthanihamza8877 4 years undergrad, 4 years dental school, 6 years of OMS residency (3 at med school and 3 in hospital) 14 years total
This is probably the most helpful CZcams video ever in my recommended I think CZcams is really giving us the life saving content we need now a days
NASA "we call it sans"
Toby fox new game notes "undertale in space"
Outertale undertale AU where they are in space
8:15 What is the one thing you can't go to space without? ductape!. I just love the fact that at some point an engineer at nasa had to argue for including ductape in the weight budget for a launch :P
Useful information I might have to use this some day
Honestly I'm kind of surprised that this wasn't ever looked into more before. Blood clots seem an obvious risk factor to a micro-gravity environment. Have there been any past studies into this at all?
I DIDN'T KNOW THIS WAS A THING WOAAAH
This should be a proud moment for all of us out here..NASA is trying to use the technology in the correct way!
Very cool episode, thank you for producing and to everyone involved - Wired is one of the best channels on CZcams!
He suited it up and everything, cute
Very interesting! Thank you, @WIRED!
8:37 that moment when you know you have SANS “you’re gonna to have a bad time”
4m30s: "We lose resupply vehicles all the time". Wait, what? You're playing fast and loose with some phrasing there, aren't you buddy?
Chris Mast you can type it like this with a colon 4:30
@@daluven Thanks
I wonder if this type of clot might show similarities to clots in coma patients, as gravity doesn't play the same role lying down as it does sitting or standing.
Astronaut name is sunita williams she developed a pre clot and now she's also part of next nasa mission .
Fascinating...useful for more understanding b/n body mechanics and microgravity adaptations...
I did not know until now but I am becoming a space surgeon!
We need a movie where Tom Hanks is a space surgeon
Fascinating and highly important medical discovery.
This was excellent, I could watch a whole series on space doctoring.
I’ll have to remember this for if I have to treat someone on my next space flight
I will keep this in mind when I go to space next time
doctor: Sorry sir, but you only have 8 more days, I am afraid you have been diagnosed with *S A N S*
Me: *Epic*
You're gonna have a bad time.
Explain por favor
Comical sans
This is all so fascinating😱
Seems like a good reason to put long-duration spacecraft into a spin to generate g-forces (even if it’s not a full 1 g of acceleration)...
If that was me I would jump off the international space station to the direction of earth
Yo, when this man said we arent about to let all the robots have all the fun in space... i just couldnt have agreed more on something in my whole life.
the expanse season three started to tackle these topic of wounds unable to heal.
My only question is why is there not at least one doctor on the ISS at all times? I mean, it wouldn't be difficult to find an MD who could perform the exact same functions as the other astronauts and complete scientific studies in microgravity; say, medical studies? Plus, in the event of a medical emergency, leading people who have limited medical training through potentially very complex treatments or procedures is incredibly risky.
Many reasons. The ISS isn't that big as to lodge someone whose services won't be required most of the time. Everyone there is always working according to their specialties; a medical doctor would be required to do other jobs too. There isn't an infirmary at the station, nor surgical equipment, nor an important supply of medicines. Doctors also require lab exams, radiographies, anesthesia, the personnel to do all of that, and nurses.
A dentist would be necessary too, with all the complements. A surgeon, an ophthalmologist, a neurologist, a psychiatrist.
But most importantly, long space stays are very taxing on the astronauts bodies: their circulation goes awry, they lose muscle and bone mass, they get accumulating radiation exposure. So far, expecting someone to stay at the ISS permanently would be nearly a death sentence. Precisely one of the main goals of the station is to solve those medical problems for future long missions.
Wow a space version of Doogie Howser, M.D.. Great story, very interesting and informative. Thank you.
WOW, 1994 Fred Savage did an outstanding job in protecting not only the astronaut's life, but also their identity. Impressive.
Imagine starting a sentence with “terestrially” on a daily basis.
Screw it i’m becoming a flight Surgeon.
Great to know...might not need to use it but definitely not counting out abnormal daily events just yet
I like these space related videos
Saw Chris hadfield in there :)
The real life Bones.
This is EXACTLY what I want to do
We call it SANS for short
My mind is so blown. I didn’t even know that space surgeons were a thing!
Move a hospital into space - duh. Create an International Space Hospital or something.
SPACE IS LIKE REALLY VAST....IF YOU ARE ON THE OTHER SIDE IT MIGHT BE REALLY DIFFICULT....SO YOU NEED A DOCTOR WITH YOU
Now I know what my future kid is going to be 🤯 ASTRONAUT SURGEON
Aya L send em on down to Texas and study Aerospace Medicine
If it wants too.. nobody should decide someone elses future without their opinnion or free willing..
@@LemonEyesNL thats a big problem with parents and thier kids.. cant force someone to do seomething..
i'd like to know if they were RH Positive / Negative or both ?
I now how know to be a doctor in space after watching all these videos a couple times each but... ill never be allowed in space, im just a normal guy who knows how to treat blood clots in space.
It is only theory.. practicly its way different so ehh you still do not know how to.
If they are prone to blood clots in space they should all be on EDTA to prevent it along with it's massive amount of other cardio benefits. Should take up little space too like 1-4 capsules a day.
Information good
9:02 he said that the loss of bone density is under control but it doesn't seem so because astronauts still lose bone density and can break bones easily when they are back on Earth.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
hornetluca
The crew members engage in physical exercise for two and a half hours a day, 6 days a week- to help preserve bone density. Also the prophylactic use of the supplement Bisphosphonate (used to treat osteoporosis patients on Earth, particularly those on bed rest) is currently being used in an ongoing study- results show that risk of bone density loss can be controlled through proper intake of nutrients and supplements.
Source: nasa.gov
@@toriainsworth5224 thanks
It blows my mind that they sent up another aircraft, worth millions of dollars, to send this person medication.
Why is that surprising?
I’m sorry i know i should be focusing on how cool it is to be a NASA flight surgeon but all i can think of is this doctor’s pretty cute🌝
You mean you want his money.
Why does the flight surgeon look like the young Paul mccartney 😮
With pills going in to space for the ISS, do they make special pills with less filler to save weight?
I’m not even interested in space travel yet I’m here.
How would one catch a blood clot in space?
When did Fred Savage become a space surgeon??
Ugh I've been dealing with blood clots since I was 13. I hope they had heparin in space
what if we inverse circulation of blood???
So he had no clinical indication accept a diagnostic exam. Heparin and clot busters used? Was any sedation used to keep his heart rate down or beta blockers
This guy described the space station as "250 nautical miles" above the Earth and I find that amusing
Wow this introduces me to a whole new world that i didnt think exist- SPACE MEDICINE.
Lemme guess: You didn't search this up
😂
Huh?
of course not 😂
I did "blood clots in outer space".
I did. I searched Wired Space Doctor. I love space.
At least they had an injectable medicine on board. Because it takes effect immediately, and you dont need to use as much.
the background music was apeshit lmaooooo
This may not be a problem. Everything points toward creating a Mars spacecraft to have at least a spinning section, if not an entire spinning ship, to create a centrifugal force that would mimic gravity. None of us can answer why the INTL space station wasn't built with such a section, but until they create artificial gravity via other means, that's our next step.
wow the surgeon looks very young - he seems to be like Sheldon but for space health stuff
Wow, Ed White in the thumbnail. Bold move.
TJ Cooney why’s that? Genuinely interested
C Sellars he died in Apollo 1
@ TJ Cooney - Exactly what I came to say...
I’m sure the editor didn’t even know who it was to begin with, but still, I can’t imagine a worse choice.
TJ Cooney oh okay, thanks
The background music is loud and annoying!
They're just adapting to space
I love it
bro i bet they billed his insurance $234,125,119 for that resupply medication but after adjustments it was $14,253 and the astronaut was responsible for his $10,000 deductible.
This crashes the whole go to Mars for 6 months in space
So how you treat basically the exact same way you would on earth. Just with ... a few logistical problems involved.
Very interesting .... it does raise yet another question, doesn’t it? While it is fantastic that we need human experiments, flights, orbits, missions to the Moon and Mars to learn more about our human limits.
Question: were humans designed to be in space for extended periods of time? What is the limit?
My dream is to become an astronaut but after seeing this video im having second thoughts :(
how much is my copay for a visit to a space hospital?
What happens when the surgeon is sick?
I can't be the only one that thinks the flight surgeon look like Fred Savage.
Just spin the drum
oi, belta lowda 😁
Ayeee
Surgeon simulator
Make me wonder what zero grav surgery would be like n if there's any advantages
They feel less 'under pressure' 🙃
I can't be bothered to watch the video but I hope they stock up on Heparin and Aspirin in space.
Poor guy
This is interesting, but what do you do if someone got Corona virus in space?
When the swine flu went around the astronauts were quarantined before launch as far as I know. But tgeir health is monitored very well. If there was any doubt about theor exposure they would not fly
They wouldn't get it. Astronauts are quarantined before launches, and there wouldn't be any chance for the virus to get on any other way. Things are very carefully cleaned and sterilized before launches.
Tell him to keep his helmet on 😷
You could have explained that whole video in 2min
The bait and catch picture with the cerebral angiography is a very poor choice. Ultrasound machines unlike the former are easily portable. Vein clots also don’t threaten the brain but the lungs.
If all astronauts are at risk of clots they should just have them take some calcium disodium edta with a multi mineral everyday.
actual rocket surgery?
what if the space surgeon is the person to get the blood clot
Welcome nerds
How to treat bomboclaat inna speace
Would transhumanism help a lot our capacities to go to space and solve these problems?
Of course it would
so the way to fix a blood clot in space is to give them blood thinners until they get back to earth? Lol wow, that's a very efficient new way of fixing a blood clot IN SPACE. just send a billion dollars and bring them back to earth. *unimpressed applause
Exactly, if they are at risk for blood clots they should all be taking a edta+multi mineral capsule everyday to solve the issue, it has many other cardio benefits too. They probably are already taking a multi supplement.
Oh mah gawd it's sans