NASA Flight Surgeon Explains How to Treat a Blood Clot in Space | WIRED

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  • Let’s say you’re on an interplanetary mission to Mars, millions of miles from the nearest hospital, and something in your body goes awry. Say, a routine body scan reveals a potentially life-threatening blood clot. What on Earth, or in space I guess, do you do? Well now we have the answer to that question.
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Komentáře • 282

  • @misscypher9857
    @misscypher9857 Před 4 lety +1951

    Bro that’s such a cool job. Just imagine “oh yeah I’m a NASA flight surgeon” not even a regular surgeon, but a SPACE surgeon

    • @HybridSpektar
      @HybridSpektar Před 4 lety +78

      I can't imagine surgery in microgravity. That sounds horrible.

    • @goodfire9150
      @goodfire9150 Před 4 lety +8

      Hernando Malinche wtf you weird 😂

    • @evanwoods4774
      @evanwoods4774 Před 4 lety +44

      I don’t think it’s the same as medical surgery. He says he is in charge of the astronaut’s health before, during, and after their mission. I imagine that means checking, and maintaining vitals during these time periods. Highly doubt they would risk any sort of surgery in an environment we know very little about. But maybe this comment was a joke and I look like an idiot 😂

    • @arturtoth3185
      @arturtoth3185 Před 4 lety +30

      Unfortunately, "Flight Surgeon" does not mean the physician is a surgeon. It is just a title for a physician specializing in primary care or occupational medicine.

    • @lilhades9484
      @lilhades9484 Před 4 lety

      @小柏美食秀 Sure, also heres a sub, buddy, you have potential

  • @Jahu-qs2us
    @Jahu-qs2us Před 4 lety +743

    "So what do you do?"
    "Oh, i'm a space surgeon."

  • @sabes44
    @sabes44 Před 4 lety +389

    That has to be the most impressive pairing of words for a Job title

  • @OptimusSubPr1me
    @OptimusSubPr1me Před 4 lety +606

    So that astronaut will never fly again. :(

    • @99Etien
      @99Etien Před 4 lety +102

      He is lucky it was discovered.... also he ist not the only one

    • @bobbycratchet3958
      @bobbycratchet3958 Před 4 lety +27

      It's like being told you have one last chance to watch the sunset(every 90 minutes) before it's gone for ever. Might have made the experience as a whole a little more memorable.

    • @gdwnet
      @gdwnet Před 4 lety +4

      Chances are that the astronaut will never fly again anyway. Odd things happened when they were in orbit to the Soyuz capsule. forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=49805.0

    • @alexma1
      @alexma1 Před 4 lety +6

      I don't think there is a lot of them that goes to space more than once

    • @richardpowell4281
      @richardpowell4281 Před 4 lety +25

      I mean... He's already one of a handful of human beings who have ever been into orbit.... It's kinda like saying "he doesn't get to climb mount Everest again?". It's sad but still a very lucky person.

  • @idkwhatimdoing7264
    @idkwhatimdoing7264 Před 4 lety +145

    Things we didn't expect: *SPACE SURGEON*

  • @decryptmars
    @decryptmars Před 4 lety +79

    I will never be a surgeon, never heal a blood clot and never be an astronaut, but if the impossible happens, I now will be ready. Thanks CZcams.

  • @bobbycratchet3958
    @bobbycratchet3958 Před 4 lety +288

    The behavior of blood in space can also complicate the diagnosis due to the fact that blood has been known to travel backwards in space.

    • @_Atzin
      @_Atzin Před 4 lety +20

      Please elaborate? Dont just leave on a cliff hanger!

    • @chef-dp7hz
      @chef-dp7hz Před 4 lety +13

      W H A T

    • @bobbycratchet3958
      @bobbycratchet3958 Před 4 lety +28

      @@chef-dp7hz Yep, I completely agree. Low gravity in space made some astronauts' blood flow backwards. Microgravity made some astronauts on the International Space Station experience reversed blood flow. ... The blood changes happened in a vessel called the left internal jugular vein, one of two that normally move blood out of the head when we are lying down.Nov 15, 2019
      www.newscientist.com/article/2223705-low-gravity-in-space-made-some-astronauts-blood-flow-backwards/

    • @evafernandezresels3069
      @evafernandezresels3069 Před 4 lety +4

      @@bobbycratchet3958 isn't that the same vein the surgeon mentiones the clot was in/on??

    • @bobbycratchet3958
      @bobbycratchet3958 Před 4 lety +7

      @@evafernandezresels3069 I saw that as well but I'm not sure if it was one of the internal or external jugulars but definitely in the same neighborhood. Could it lend a hand to clotting because the blood also stagnates depending on how gravity is affecting different parts of his body reacting to the environment they're in? Is the problem worse in different compartments of the ISS? Will a redesign of the ISS be warranted?

  • @Scanur
    @Scanur Před 4 lety +220

    Dude in the suit looks like he wants to cry really badly but can’t because he’s talking to Wired

    • @misscoffeebeans
      @misscoffeebeans Před 4 lety +7

      Jared Goode yes! I imagine his wife called just before the interview to ask for a divorce.

    • @findingnory
      @findingnory Před 3 lety +2

      ??? he's just speaking with passion...

  • @derpy_blue
    @derpy_blue Před 4 lety +28

    Space + surgeon?? And here I was thinking it's impossible to fulfill my both of my childhood dreams simultaneously 🚀👩‍⚕️

  • @flimpeenflarmpoon1353
    @flimpeenflarmpoon1353 Před 4 lety +127

    8:37 *megalovania starts playing*

    • @sjhx8908
      @sjhx8908 Před 4 lety

      Your moms a woman

    • @Brulos
      @Brulos Před 4 lety +1

      I was literally thinking the same thing XD Quite funny that it was an ocular problem since it reminded me of sans flaming blue eye

  • @jakejenkins8150
    @jakejenkins8150 Před 4 lety +52

    How coincidental. I just learned about this career path in one of my academic club meetings and was pretty fascinated and did a lot of research on this and now here it is in the limelight.

    • @tristan4386
      @tristan4386 Před 4 lety +2

      Is that going to be your career? To become a Space Flight Surgeon ?

    • @almthanihamza8877
      @almthanihamza8877 Před rokem

      How someone go through this path in medicine career?

    • @jakejenkins8150
      @jakejenkins8150 Před rokem +1

      @@almthanihamza8877 4 years undergrad, 4 years dental school, 6 years of OMS residency (3 at med school and 3 in hospital) 14 years total

  • @viviennemulligan6179
    @viviennemulligan6179 Před 4 lety +6

    This is probably the most helpful CZcams video ever in my recommended I think CZcams is really giving us the life saving content we need now a days

  • @pulterbit
    @pulterbit Před 4 lety +64

    NASA "we call it sans"
    Toby fox new game notes "undertale in space"

    • @amyblair9960
      @amyblair9960 Před 4 lety +1

      Outertale undertale AU where they are in space

  • @vinzent1992
    @vinzent1992 Před 4 lety +15

    8:15 What is the one thing you can't go to space without? ductape!. I just love the fact that at some point an engineer at nasa had to argue for including ductape in the weight budget for a launch :P

  • @emiliolopez4926
    @emiliolopez4926 Před 4 lety +19

    Useful information I might have to use this some day

  • @TheTonyMcD
    @TheTonyMcD Před 4 lety +7

    Honestly I'm kind of surprised that this wasn't ever looked into more before. Blood clots seem an obvious risk factor to a micro-gravity environment. Have there been any past studies into this at all?

  • @j_jarvh
    @j_jarvh Před 4 lety +45

    I DIDN'T KNOW THIS WAS A THING WOAAAH

  • @diyaj7069
    @diyaj7069 Před 4 lety +11

    This should be a proud moment for all of us out here..NASA is trying to use the technology in the correct way!

  • @norahashoura2140
    @norahashoura2140 Před 4 lety +2

    Very cool episode, thank you for producing and to everyone involved - Wired is one of the best channels on CZcams!

  • @GodLeftAllOfUs
    @GodLeftAllOfUs Před 4 lety +11

    He suited it up and everything, cute

  • @Michellee970
    @Michellee970 Před 4 lety +4

    Very interesting! Thank you, @WIRED!

  • @cyberface4122
    @cyberface4122 Před 4 lety +18

    8:37 that moment when you know you have SANS “you’re gonna to have a bad time”

  • @chrismast2790
    @chrismast2790 Před 4 lety +9

    4m30s: "We lose resupply vehicles all the time". Wait, what? You're playing fast and loose with some phrasing there, aren't you buddy?

    • @daluven
      @daluven Před 4 lety

      Chris Mast you can type it like this with a colon 4:30

    • @chrismast2790
      @chrismast2790 Před 4 lety

      @@daluven Thanks

  • @tom_something
    @tom_something Před 4 lety +27

    I wonder if this type of clot might show similarities to clots in coma patients, as gravity doesn't play the same role lying down as it does sitting or standing.

  • @HardikKundalwal
    @HardikKundalwal Před 4 lety +17

    Astronaut name is sunita williams she developed a pre clot and now she's also part of next nasa mission .

  • @azazzelx
    @azazzelx Před 4 lety +1

    Fascinating...useful for more understanding b/n body mechanics and microgravity adaptations...

  • @easymedicinebytmd8247
    @easymedicinebytmd8247 Před 4 lety +11

    I did not know until now but I am becoming a space surgeon!

  • @williamjakobsenmatthiesen3145

    We need a movie where Tom Hanks is a space surgeon

  • @dennismorris7573
    @dennismorris7573 Před 4 lety +4

    Fascinating and highly important medical discovery.

  • @daverumfield
    @daverumfield Před 4 lety

    This was excellent, I could watch a whole series on space doctoring.

  • @voitrien4726
    @voitrien4726 Před 4 lety +2

    I’ll have to remember this for if I have to treat someone on my next space flight

  • @RahulRaj-qg5yu
    @RahulRaj-qg5yu Před 4 lety +2

    I will keep this in mind when I go to space next time

  • @ronnybaroudi6112
    @ronnybaroudi6112 Před 4 lety +134

    doctor: Sorry sir, but you only have 8 more days, I am afraid you have been diagnosed with *S A N S*
    Me: *Epic*

  • @brazzy2012
    @brazzy2012 Před 4 lety +1

    This is all so fascinating😱

  • @darkwinter6028
    @darkwinter6028 Před 4 lety +1

    Seems like a good reason to put long-duration spacecraft into a spin to generate g-forces (even if it’s not a full 1 g of acceleration)...

  • @talhajat3301
    @talhajat3301 Před 4 lety +4

    If that was me I would jump off the international space station to the direction of earth

  • @TheKhakPakflyest
    @TheKhakPakflyest Před 4 lety +4

    Yo, when this man said we arent about to let all the robots have all the fun in space... i just couldnt have agreed more on something in my whole life.

  • @josephgambrell1715
    @josephgambrell1715 Před 4 lety

    the expanse season three started to tackle these topic of wounds unable to heal.

  • @andersonstudiosmusic
    @andersonstudiosmusic Před 4 lety +4

    My only question is why is there not at least one doctor on the ISS at all times? I mean, it wouldn't be difficult to find an MD who could perform the exact same functions as the other astronauts and complete scientific studies in microgravity; say, medical studies? Plus, in the event of a medical emergency, leading people who have limited medical training through potentially very complex treatments or procedures is incredibly risky.

    • @MariaMartinez-researcher
      @MariaMartinez-researcher Před 4 lety

      Many reasons. The ISS isn't that big as to lodge someone whose services won't be required most of the time. Everyone there is always working according to their specialties; a medical doctor would be required to do other jobs too. There isn't an infirmary at the station, nor surgical equipment, nor an important supply of medicines. Doctors also require lab exams, radiographies, anesthesia, the personnel to do all of that, and nurses.
      A dentist would be necessary too, with all the complements. A surgeon, an ophthalmologist, a neurologist, a psychiatrist.
      But most importantly, long space stays are very taxing on the astronauts bodies: their circulation goes awry, they lose muscle and bone mass, they get accumulating radiation exposure. So far, expecting someone to stay at the ISS permanently would be nearly a death sentence. Precisely one of the main goals of the station is to solve those medical problems for future long missions.

  • @WillyWanker1974
    @WillyWanker1974 Před 4 lety +1

    Wow a space version of Doogie Howser, M.D.. Great story, very interesting and informative. Thank you.

  • @MrOuchiez
    @MrOuchiez Před 4 lety +1

    WOW, 1994 Fred Savage did an outstanding job in protecting not only the astronaut's life, but also their identity. Impressive.

  • @bobbimorse8460
    @bobbimorse8460 Před 3 lety +3

    Imagine starting a sentence with “terestrially” on a daily basis.
    Screw it i’m becoming a flight Surgeon.

  • @TheUnknownGoat1
    @TheUnknownGoat1 Před 4 lety

    Great to know...might not need to use it but definitely not counting out abnormal daily events just yet

  • @suntzu7151
    @suntzu7151 Před 4 lety +3

    I like these space related videos

  • @josezamora2290
    @josezamora2290 Před 4 lety +1

    Saw Chris hadfield in there :)

  • @neebeehayden1913
    @neebeehayden1913 Před 4 lety +3

    The real life Bones.

  • @larissaberry4560
    @larissaberry4560 Před 4 lety

    This is EXACTLY what I want to do

  • @azri_3229
    @azri_3229 Před 4 lety +5

    We call it SANS for short

  • @s.s.776
    @s.s.776 Před 4 lety

    My mind is so blown. I didn’t even know that space surgeons were a thing!

  • @PokeMaster22222
    @PokeMaster22222 Před 3 lety +3

    Move a hospital into space - duh. Create an International Space Hospital or something.

    • @beenajohnson3076
      @beenajohnson3076 Před 2 lety +1

      SPACE IS LIKE REALLY VAST....IF YOU ARE ON THE OTHER SIDE IT MIGHT BE REALLY DIFFICULT....SO YOU NEED A DOCTOR WITH YOU

  • @ayal3363
    @ayal3363 Před 4 lety +39

    Now I know what my future kid is going to be 🤯 ASTRONAUT SURGEON

    • @JoseSanchez-sc6fe
      @JoseSanchez-sc6fe Před 4 lety +3

      Aya L send em on down to Texas and study Aerospace Medicine

    • @LemonEyesNL
      @LemonEyesNL Před 4 lety +15

      If it wants too.. nobody should decide someone elses future without their opinnion or free willing..

    • @Versac3e
      @Versac3e Před 4 lety +1

      @@LemonEyesNL thats a big problem with parents and thier kids.. cant force someone to do seomething..

  • @hoppermantis7615
    @hoppermantis7615 Před 4 lety

    i'd like to know if they were RH Positive / Negative or both ?

  • @cattameme
    @cattameme Před 4 lety +62

    I now how know to be a doctor in space after watching all these videos a couple times each but... ill never be allowed in space, im just a normal guy who knows how to treat blood clots in space.

    • @LemonEyesNL
      @LemonEyesNL Před 4 lety +1

      It is only theory.. practicly its way different so ehh you still do not know how to.

  • @WaterspoutsOfTheDeep
    @WaterspoutsOfTheDeep Před 4 lety

    If they are prone to blood clots in space they should all be on EDTA to prevent it along with it's massive amount of other cardio benefits. Should take up little space too like 1-4 capsules a day.

  • @nayefksa5459
    @nayefksa5459 Před 4 lety

    Information good

  • @hornetluca
    @hornetluca Před 4 lety +1

    9:02 he said that the loss of bone density is under control but it doesn't seem so because astronauts still lose bone density and can break bones easily when they are back on Earth.
    Correct me if I'm wrong.

    • @toriainsworth5224
      @toriainsworth5224 Před 4 lety

      hornetluca
      The crew members engage in physical exercise for two and a half hours a day, 6 days a week- to help preserve bone density. Also the prophylactic use of the supplement Bisphosphonate (used to treat osteoporosis patients on Earth, particularly those on bed rest) is currently being used in an ongoing study- results show that risk of bone density loss can be controlled through proper intake of nutrients and supplements.
      Source: nasa.gov

    • @hornetluca
      @hornetluca Před 4 lety

      @@toriainsworth5224 thanks

  • @ShawnaSweets94
    @ShawnaSweets94 Před 4 lety +3

    It blows my mind that they sent up another aircraft, worth millions of dollars, to send this person medication.

  • @enigmaticwaters
    @enigmaticwaters Před 4 lety +28

    I’m sorry i know i should be focusing on how cool it is to be a NASA flight surgeon but all i can think of is this doctor’s pretty cute🌝

  • @lindyquack5221
    @lindyquack5221 Před 4 lety +1

    Why does the flight surgeon look like the young Paul mccartney 😮

  • @maxximumb
    @maxximumb Před 4 lety

    With pills going in to space for the ISS, do they make special pills with less filler to save weight?

  • @jorenzlorenz
    @jorenzlorenz Před 4 lety

    I’m not even interested in space travel yet I’m here.

  • @thekaiser4333
    @thekaiser4333 Před 4 lety

    How would one catch a blood clot in space?

  • @C.L.Hinton
    @C.L.Hinton Před 4 lety +1

    When did Fred Savage become a space surgeon??

  • @eriktruchinskas3747
    @eriktruchinskas3747 Před 4 lety +3

    Ugh I've been dealing with blood clots since I was 13. I hope they had heparin in space

  • @safouanayed
    @safouanayed Před 4 lety

    what if we inverse circulation of blood???

  • @Philip02K
    @Philip02K Před 3 lety

    So he had no clinical indication accept a diagnostic exam. Heparin and clot busters used? Was any sedation used to keep his heart rate down or beta blockers

  • @MustangSallyB1atch
    @MustangSallyB1atch Před 4 lety

    This guy described the space station as "250 nautical miles" above the Earth and I find that amusing

  • @Zetsuke4
    @Zetsuke4 Před 4 lety

    Wow this introduces me to a whole new world that i didnt think exist- SPACE MEDICINE.

  • @user-ye5mq9lx8z
    @user-ye5mq9lx8z Před 4 lety +68

    Lemme guess: You didn't search this up

  • @nightrous3026
    @nightrous3026 Před 4 lety

    At least they had an injectable medicine on board. Because it takes effect immediately, and you dont need to use as much.

  • @nvnrmchl
    @nvnrmchl Před 4 lety +1

    the background music was apeshit lmaooooo

  • @workingguy6666
    @workingguy6666 Před 4 lety

    This may not be a problem. Everything points toward creating a Mars spacecraft to have at least a spinning section, if not an entire spinning ship, to create a centrifugal force that would mimic gravity. None of us can answer why the INTL space station wasn't built with such a section, but until they create artificial gravity via other means, that's our next step.

  • @MilMike
    @MilMike Před 4 lety

    wow the surgeon looks very young - he seems to be like Sheldon but for space health stuff

  • @TJCooney
    @TJCooney Před 4 lety

    Wow, Ed White in the thumbnail. Bold move.

    • @csellars7874
      @csellars7874 Před 4 lety +1

      TJ Cooney why’s that? Genuinely interested

    • @TJCooney
      @TJCooney Před 4 lety

      C Sellars he died in Apollo 1

    • @GlutenEruption
      @GlutenEruption Před 4 lety

      @ TJ Cooney - Exactly what I came to say...
      I’m sure the editor didn’t even know who it was to begin with, but still, I can’t imagine a worse choice.

    • @csellars7874
      @csellars7874 Před 4 lety

      TJ Cooney oh okay, thanks

  • @DuhaMohammad
    @DuhaMohammad Před rokem +1

    The background music is loud and annoying!

  • @kevinthao6172
    @kevinthao6172 Před 4 lety

    They're just adapting to space

  • @drparham
    @drparham Před 4 lety

    I love it

  • @RustyB5000
    @RustyB5000 Před 4 lety +1

    bro i bet they billed his insurance $234,125,119 for that resupply medication but after adjustments it was $14,253 and the astronaut was responsible for his $10,000 deductible.

  • @walidalghamdi1392
    @walidalghamdi1392 Před 4 lety

    This crashes the whole go to Mars for 6 months in space

  • @weissergspritzter
    @weissergspritzter Před 4 lety

    So how you treat basically the exact same way you would on earth. Just with ... a few logistical problems involved.

  • @dgretlein
    @dgretlein Před 4 lety

    Very interesting .... it does raise yet another question, doesn’t it? While it is fantastic that we need human experiments, flights, orbits, missions to the Moon and Mars to learn more about our human limits.
    Question: were humans designed to be in space for extended periods of time? What is the limit?

  • @lefishe8145
    @lefishe8145 Před 4 lety +1

    My dream is to become an astronaut but after seeing this video im having second thoughts :(

  • @RustyB5000
    @RustyB5000 Před 4 lety

    how much is my copay for a visit to a space hospital?

  • @yashsahoo4413
    @yashsahoo4413 Před 4 lety +1

    What happens when the surgeon is sick?

  • @heyvince
    @heyvince Před 4 lety

    I can't be the only one that thinks the flight surgeon look like Fred Savage.

  • @hendreeks2585
    @hendreeks2585 Před 4 lety +2

    Just spin the drum

  • @lee.as.in.l.e.e.7394
    @lee.as.in.l.e.e.7394 Před 4 lety +1

    Surgeon simulator

  • @mycool8980
    @mycool8980 Před 4 lety

    Make me wonder what zero grav surgery would be like n if there's any advantages

    • @marekpumex
      @marekpumex Před měsícem

      They feel less 'under pressure' 🙃

  • @darkregions
    @darkregions Před 4 lety

    I can't be bothered to watch the video but I hope they stock up on Heparin and Aspirin in space.

  • @ockertvisser8770
    @ockertvisser8770 Před 4 lety

    Poor guy

  • @volcaniadread
    @volcaniadread Před 4 lety +7

    This is interesting, but what do you do if someone got Corona virus in space?

    • @lawlietthetoast_1856
      @lawlietthetoast_1856 Před 4 lety +8

      When the swine flu went around the astronauts were quarantined before launch as far as I know. But tgeir health is monitored very well. If there was any doubt about theor exposure they would not fly

    • @derekverveer6058
      @derekverveer6058 Před 4 lety +3

      They wouldn't get it. Astronauts are quarantined before launches, and there wouldn't be any chance for the virus to get on any other way. Things are very carefully cleaned and sterilized before launches.

    • @simonhanlon7518
      @simonhanlon7518 Před 4 lety

      Tell him to keep his helmet on 😷

  • @HardikKundalwal
    @HardikKundalwal Před 4 lety +1

    You could have explained that whole video in 2min

  • @drderrickchua
    @drderrickchua Před 4 lety

    The bait and catch picture with the cerebral angiography is a very poor choice. Ultrasound machines unlike the former are easily portable. Vein clots also don’t threaten the brain but the lungs.

    • @WaterspoutsOfTheDeep
      @WaterspoutsOfTheDeep Před 4 lety

      If all astronauts are at risk of clots they should just have them take some calcium disodium edta with a multi mineral everyday.

  • @ashoggoth2419
    @ashoggoth2419 Před 4 lety

    actual rocket surgery?

  • @jossbox4794
    @jossbox4794 Před 4 lety

    what if the space surgeon is the person to get the blood clot

  • @HardikKundalwal
    @HardikKundalwal Před 4 lety +2

    Welcome nerds

  • @Appleloucious
    @Appleloucious Před 4 lety

    How to treat bomboclaat inna speace

  • @dankdoge2212
    @dankdoge2212 Před 4 lety +4

    Would transhumanism help a lot our capacities to go to space and solve these problems?

    • @sghqz
      @sghqz Před 4 lety

      Of course it would

  • @lancej7765
    @lancej7765 Před 4 lety +1

    so the way to fix a blood clot in space is to give them blood thinners until they get back to earth? Lol wow, that's a very efficient new way of fixing a blood clot IN SPACE. just send a billion dollars and bring them back to earth. *unimpressed applause

    • @WaterspoutsOfTheDeep
      @WaterspoutsOfTheDeep Před 4 lety

      Exactly, if they are at risk for blood clots they should all be taking a edta+multi mineral capsule everyday to solve the issue, it has many other cardio benefits too. They probably are already taking a multi supplement.

  • @patricksteinsen1147
    @patricksteinsen1147 Před 4 lety +1

    Oh mah gawd it's sans