Drifting vs. Racing vs. Sim Racing | What's The Best?
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After a brief year of drifting, track racing, drag racing, and sim racing, I decided to compare (in my terrible opinion) what each motorsport felt like and which one is best. Kinda. Each have their perks, and by no means is my opinion fact; it's just...opinion. So before we jump into 2024, let's talk about where you and I will be spending more time in 2024 and why we picked it. Drop a comment on which one you like the most below and why and of course if you disagree, yell at me too.
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0:00 Let's Talk About Racing
0:40 What Type of Racing is Best?
1:40 My Experience With Drifting
4:25 What About Track Racing?
6:35 - Is Sim Racing Worth It?
8:45 - Time To Talk About Drag Racing
9:50 - How Do They Compare?
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Which one is your favorite? I can only assume i'm already getting flamed for saying that sim racers are kinda nerds when they talk, but oh well I love them anyway. ANYWHO sorry for missing an upload and I hope ya'll enjoy this. WATCH to the end
Autocross sounds like so much fun and also quite affordable.
It is! I noticed some are a bit pricey but they've gotten better lately
It’s where most of us start
Autocross is a blast! Most convenient(legal)way to have fun with your car
@@travdripdrip382 It seems like a very approachable motorsport to get into, and one in which you can drive (almost) any car.
Wanted to comment on this. Autox has one of the best community. there are some old guys who are tough to deal with. If you ever go to nationals, you will never experience such a party.
avid track day bro here! not sure where you're looking but events in my area usually range from $200-350 depending on location/track time. people on a budget (like me) can def track their cars and not break the bank! civics, miatas, FRS/BRZs all great low running cost options! I will agree that track days are dominated by the older generations, guess that doesn't change from area to area 😂
Drifting is legit like going to the skate park hence the gatekeeping and all that stuff your experienced. A lot of the guys who were in the bmx and skateboarding scene got into drifting so that mindset from those scenes came with them.
Open wheel is the best, I did Skip Barber back in the mid 2000s in Road America and Watkins Glen, best time ever
I want to go to Skip Barber to get my novice racing license so bad!
Rally? Rally is awesome imo. 🚗💨💨💨
Touge racing has to be up near the top if you live near mountains or an area with good backroads. It can help get a ton a of seat time in your car. You can go whenever, you can go by yourself or race other people (with spotters). It just isn't the most legal racing out there lmao.
Drive.
Autocross and open track days at the local track. Cheap, fun and safe. Can use street tyres. Love it.
Sim race in the winters on AC as I’m not super competitive with it.
Rally
Now you gotta do some Rallycross!
I do a lot of driving & the honest to god truth is, the best motorsport is whichever one I'm doing at the time. I drift a C6 Corvette, I race a Foxbody Mustang in the CMC class with NASA, I do sim racing with iRacing and I try to sim drift (not very well) on Assetto Corsa. I also have a j-swapped Miata that I show but for this discussion I'm going to ignore that for now. If you were tell me I had to give up one of the motorsports and only focus on one, my answer would depend on which one I did last. I did a 3-day drift event at Midpond this fall and for the next month I would have told you that is the one I would stick with. Then I did a NASA race at Eagles Canyon Raceway and had so much fun that I would have told you, I'm never giving up wheel to wheel racing. The next weekend I did a 2-day drift event with Lonestar Drift and once again, I was back to picking drifting. The weekend after that, I got my sim rig dialed in for drifting on AC and I thought, "this is cheap enough, I'll do this forever." The point I'm making is that it doesn't matter which motorsport you choose, if it's right for you, you're going to enjoy it and want to keep doing it. I say, pick one you can afford and do it. Don't be afraid to try other motorsports but don't feel like you're missing out if you don't try others either. They all have their pros and cons but they're all awesome!
In all honesty seeing that you tossed in sim racing made my day, completely unexpected but totally counts! 👏👏👏
329k subscribers is crazy for such a short period of time🤯
I appreciate every single person who supports this wild ass journey haha
With you on the Sim racing, I was already a pretty big gamer before getting into cars, so I already had half the stuff to jump into it, my logitech set served me well at the start. You can save money on the rig if you're into PC gaming and know how to build it yourself.
But yeah anyone into motorsports should well indeed invest in one because like you said, it lets you do anything. Let you drive any car that you can't otherwise get into Irl. You can do anything, Mod anything in Assetto Corsa, practice consequence free. By the time you've invested 4-5k into the SIM rig, you'd have saved the money if you were to practice in a real car with the cost of maintenance, tyres, mistakes, track fees and accidents worst case.
Seen people who have never driven a performance car, absolutely kill it on track and drifting on their first time after coming out of just pure Sim racing. End of the day Car people and racing gamers are nerds.
People don't take sims seriously enough. They will give you a skill boost that directly translates to reality.
Just to orientate one’s self with the track before a first time race day is a leg up. I want a decent rig, but torn between buying car parts lol.
Yeah it helps gain situational awareness for sure. However the transition from sim to the real world isn't the same.
Sims will teach you a track layout, being aware of the cars around you without expenive consequences, as well as some decent foundation work.
With that said. There is stuff that is drastically different from sims. Grip of the tires and learning the limits, g force, then the intricacies of the track such as where the grip is during the rain.
Sims do help, but they are definitely not a direct translation into skill.
@@JakeKaminskisRacing Sims are the only place you can reliably get the same set of variables for 2+ runs. IRL you will almost never have the same conditions twice. What's important is learning to adjust with a stints evolution, you can get that in a sim and at a more precise beginning point. There are many lessons to be learned in sims. The only missing factor is G forces but you get used to that fast since it's just one more channel for feedback.
@@Wzrd8 g forces and weather. Track variables like temp and rain also make a huge difference. Many people do not know how to properly drive in the wet, as it is a completely different mindset. Sims still do not do this properly.
@@JakeKaminskisRacing Some offer pretty good models but since it's optional on the sim rig I 100% agree, too few actually train for it. But even with out a model of rain flow over a near flat surface it gets the idea across. I feel the same about night mode for assetto touge drivers.
Kinda Wish we Had more of a chance to get into Ralley Cross in north east Wisconsin But i know thats its up in teh Up and Minnasota, Persnally Im geting into drag raceing I did it for my frist time At Wir at the Wcec Appleton Take over last year wiht my El camino and My great uncles Fox Body Mustang
For me I gotta rock with autocross and show. I would enjoy these two the most since my future collection consists of a 350Z, Evo 5, '13 GT500, and '09 R8. I would like autocross because it's just you against the clock and I feel it would be the best way improve my skills as a driver while testing the limits of the car I'm in. Show since with each build I want to inspire others and just put a smile on some faces. Three of these cars will be NFS inspired in terms of looks.
Good video Alex!
Mario kart racing?
ope
Ive drag raced once, only got a few runs before i broke the car. But i do a lot on my sim which is just a 6ish year old Logitech g29. Hard to beat it since i have few drift tracks near me and neither of my cars are rwd so it opens a lot of doors for cheap
Stage rally looks like a blast. Also according to the internet it is the cheapest form of Motorsport at the grassroots level. It’s what I plan on getting into.
Definitely not the cheapest you can get into. Road rally is likely the cheapest, but in my opinion lackluster. Stage rallying/rallycross is very expensive and hard on the cars and equipment.
@@JakeKaminskisRacing the event I saw on dirtfish CZcams channel was basically like field autocross. It cost $50 to compete and basically any car was allowed. The only way I could see it being hard on a car is if there were jumps which I doubt that there would be in a grassroots event. Plus you could always buy a cheap old ranger or f150 with twin I beams. Twin I beams are are extremely strong and they’re used in Baja style racing.
@@redbaron77 yeah that's SCCA Rallycross style. Autocross but in the dirt, it's still hard one ball joints, wheel bearings, and shocks. But affordable. I look at it as autocross. You get like 7 runs which usually equates to maybe 30 minutes total of driving.
In Lebanon, we have something called speed test it's like autocross mixed with hill climb it was a five time event in just a summer. Every ticket costs 70$, so i paid 700$ for tires for all this season, 60$ for all the season 20$ full x 5, and i broke my difference, so 600 so in total i paid approximately 1750$ for all the bundle but i race in a stock g37 ipl automatic and i am a college student so money is hard i need some sponsorship but i don't know how to get there eye's on me
It would be sick if you covered rally racing. I think they're all cool and they're probably all fun, but rally is probably my favorite.
Got a seat for you in a mk2 golf gti at rallycross next year, Midwest
I like salt!
I suppose for me, touge is my favorite. You learn so much, and you know you don't have any safety measures in place to get a do-over if you fuck up on a corner. It's just having fun.
Any driving that isn’t a straight line, is fun driving
What about heart racing?
keep the broad auto-sports topics coming please.
Rally is best competition, after that touring and time attack
Alex you haven't been attending the right track day events, you're missing out. If you ever want to make it out to a racing circuit for an epic event you need to hit me up and I'll show you a good time. I instruct for so many track day groups in our region and would point you in the right direction. As for cost.... not sure what events you're attending. But the local groups charge $250/day on average for 7x20min sessions.
Track racing is as expensive as you make it. You don't need to make a ton of changes to a car to enjoy. In fact we as instructors prefer as close to stock with good pads and fluid recommended.
In my opinion rally racing is the best Motorsport 🤘🔥 just not a lot of grassroots opportunities..
The only way drifting is cheaper than a track day is if you have a tire sponsor
NitroCross looks fun as hell
That's what Collete does isn't it!?
Drifting shouldn't be in the running. The definition of a race is a competition between 2 or more that results in one winner, who was the fastest. Not only is the winner in drifting not always the fastest, but fastest is definitive. You KNOW who won. Drifting is the only motorsport I can think of that doesn't award a winner based on a definitive result, but rather a panel of judges that you HOPE are objective and judge with the same criteria. BTW, they aren't, and they won't.
Was about to say there's no such thing as too many cats... then i realized i'm feeding 12 because i can't trap one...
Alex, you forgot to talk about autocross about you. Also need to do autocross to talk about it😅 lol
Autox for the win. It's cheap, usually under $100 per event. The wear and tear isn't as bad. Slow cars (cough Miatas) are competitive. The people are also welcoming.
Autocross is a great event to start out, especially when learning car control. However once you attend a track day event the real addiction comes to play. As you need to slow everything down at the controls.
Track Days such as the groups I have been instructing for nearly 18 years with. You get far more time behind the wheel than at an autocross event for a little more money. $250/day for nearly an hour and a half behind the wheel.
With you on the sim community. The tribalism is also off the charts. It really doesn't make sense. I mainly play sim games by myself for that reason.
Rally racing?
That's a future dream of mine holy heck
My uncles have been big rally drivers in Europe in the 80ies…
They taught me to be their navigators and that was a blast…
Rally driver… that is another breed 😅
@@AlexMartini. Rally looks like a blast I’ve always wanted to watch a race. Those drivers have some serious skills
Orangecat is not impressed.
*thanks for sharing
I'm still waiting for Banging Gears to come out
It won’t
Did you hear something or are you just guessing?
Auto-Cross. Grip is faster.
You mentioned iRacing... Does that mean you're not going back to GT7?
ROLL RACING???
Rally. Rally is the best.
you didn't cover autocross? Commonnnnnnn
What? No RC or slot cars? That's just as much as a motorsport as everything else sure you don't use a real car but it does give you a good taste of what actual racing is but at a smaller scale. Is it cheaper that's debatable.
I prefer drifting WITH A LOW POWERED CAR!!!! because you just gonna band-aid your actual skills with 1000 Hrsprs, get out there and DRIVE with some beat to death Lada or something
I like track days and AutoX. Drag racing and street racing is boring. IMO
Who TF goes 150-200mph and goes, man that was boring... Have you ever even been drag racing? Lmao
Track driving for me. Auto-x is dumb and not worth the time or money, Ive never really have been into drifting nor have I had a car that could drift, drag racing literally anyone can do and requires little to no skill, my balls arent nearly big enough for rally racing nor is my budget.
"Drag racing requires no skill"
I'd like to see you drive something like Larry Larson's Nova then.
"AutoX is not worth money"
You're joking right? AutoX is one of the cheaper, if not cheapest motorsport to get into, how could it *not* be worth it.
Sounds like you're just a narrow minded simpleton.