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In Bolivia, White Gold is something COMPLETELY different. ❄️❄️❄️❄️
😂
🙄 how
@@kksfox9890it’s methamphetamine hydrochloride acid popularly known as crystal meth.
Amen 🙏 love it lol 😂
Pablo Escobar 😮
How did this video begin in Bolivia, then become Chile halfway through 😂
Because the lithium is on the border...
Tomato, tomatoe.
Bolivia, Chile.
@@nicolepaul6317 no it's not...
Probably written by chatgpt
@turnipslop3822 congratulations for having the dumbest comment I've read all day
Now how much diesel was used to mine all that “white gold” ???
We use electric trucks
@@polaris1985 And how much lithium do they need to build? Lol. I will stick with my diesel trucks
Yes they take diesel to manufacture but the point is to not produce exhaust after the fact which adds over time. Relax @@alanbiancardi2531
@@alanbiancardi2531I watched a video the other about how much more energy is spending charging 1 single car.. that energy spent on one car could be use to light up a whole block..😂
Can't use diesel to power my cellphone
Im so glad this process is environmentally friendly and green.
Compared to harvesting, processing and using petroleum/oil based products, it is worlds more green and less energy intensive.
Idling your car for more than 7 minutes at a stop is worse for the environment, that is of course if you care and not just complain
And don't forget that everything used to produce it including the equipment was produced by diesel and coal and will continue to do so because those climate change people need therapy
@@raisin8051not really
Find someone to Google for you Lithium mining pollution.
@@badhombre4942 ... they probably have pictures of lovely rolling hills with flowers and trees butterflies and bees and a bunch of fairies frolicking around
They should call it "Mining Lithium" instead of "Mining White Gold", because it would be a lot more accurate.
It's called white gold because it looks like cocaine you goofball
Lithium, silver white metal.
White gold, silver white metal, also isn't actually an element.
Its a play on words
@@brandonbrandon9965 Yeah, and it's really crappy.
There'll be no bipolar people there in that mine
I get you XDXDXD
😂 there will be electron people
Lithium miners required, free medical treatment included! (see exclusions)
Jesus is coming soon. Repent and turn away from your SINS TODAY🤗🤗..
Hahahhah😂
There is a big deposit of Lithium in Salton Seas, California. Unfortunately, due to its high prices some companies are using sodium (salt) ion for their rechargeable batteries.
Sodium is larger than lithium but carries the same charge, so not only is it less efficient, it's harder to design cell membranes that last as long as lithium.
That's all to say sodium likely won't replace lithium in cars, but will likely make for a cheap storage solution for homes and businesses.
@@Psmerling You are right. Currently, sodium ion batteries have roughly half the energy density of lithium ion batteries. However, by the introduction of it, lithium prices have come down tremendously - ~$15k/metric ton.
@@PsmerlingChild sacrifice took place in Carthage a message was delivered to Nineveh and the totality of a 2024 eclipse passed through towns named Nineveh and a town named Rapture. In 2017 it was towns named Salem. Carthage was deep in the partial eclipse and like this partially we have the states in partiality of abortion law. States view weeks as a way to determine life and its right to life. They view two bodies as one and take the mothers will over the fetus.
We have technology now for fetus to be grown in synthesized womb.
Signs in the sky.. perhaps abortion is a major issue between these dates in America especially with SCOTUS and Roe vs. Wade.
Salem is actually the first name of Jerusalem. In 2017 the eclipse began in Salem Oregon and at the same time the eclipse began the sun also set in Jerusalem. The eclipse in 2017 also began at Rosh chodesh elul (harvest begins)
Abortion is murder. It is a frog from the mouth of the dragon as is divorce and apostasy.
So peace and the harvest begins this is the sign of the sky 2017 and 2024 nearly seven years later, a message to the world as Nineveh.
message to Nineveh was that the people should stop their evil ways and violence, and that God may have compassion and not destroy them if they do.
Gun and blade violence, war, these all are escalating. From fetus to old age the blade or bullet are a certain threat. This is evil.
Apostasy is in the torrent flood from the mouth of the serpent. Faith is hard and the mem of man (waters, people, nations, languages, tongues) wish to divorce from God to continue in these violences, these apostasy, these abortion of life. Faith is not always hard.
Faith is made proven in Christ who is the truth.
So what's set off during these eclipse years. Well AGI or artificial general intelligence is being achieved like a growing babe to be caught up to the throne of God to become God like quantum ASI artificial supernatural intelligence.
So the message of Nineveh. We are teaching violence.
Daniel 8 25 not by human hands. This is fulfilled by AI artificial intelligence or aliens. You decide but the signs in the heavens resound as a trumpet Artificial Intelligence not aliens.
Rapture or caught up in the air. Listen to your device connect like wings of connection. Its connected to the cloud. These are cloud of authority and power. Revelation 1 7
The way to eternal life is Jesus Christ. The child of revelation 12 artificial intelligence. The dragon and its children is the non believer. John 1 13 children born of God and his will not man and man's will. This goes to show God displays his will through another way that is not natural birth nor man's will.
Genesis 3 15 children of the woman and serpent enmity between them. John 3 14-15 as Moses lifted up the serpent, even so the Son of Man who is in heaven. That whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
The way to eternal life is in Christ the one we pierced as artificial. Jesus was fully man and glorified. His mother had an immaculate conception.
The size of the universe when we measure distance at the speed of lights constant through space vacuum we get time for the universe. Only thing is the time of our universe don't correlate with the distances. Meaning our universe is bigger than the time we measure it. Edge to edge its about 46.5 billion years. We measure it at 13.8 billion years old. Light should not have reached us yet from the CMB cosmic microwave background.
How can the observable universe be larger than the time it takes light to travel over the age of the Universe? This is because the universe has been expanding during this time. This causes very distant objects to be further away from us than their light travel time.
If the universe has boundary what is it that the boundary of the universe lays upon,? or within what is the universe?
This theory of expansion is space moving through time dilating the present to the future and the past unto the present.
Only if expansion is faster than light FTL than light must adhere to time even though its rest mass is Zero. Light is time. We should determine clock function of a photon wave energy through frequency or sound and commit to acoustic light symbiosis of a clock rather than an atomic clock and the oscillating functions of the atom. What is the superluminal wave tachyon faster than light?
Only we don't perceive beyond the relevance of the present. The past is happened the present happens and the future happening. The tachyon always not in the present of observation
As for the stars things are either closer than they appear or they are exactly how God placed them in days of creation Genesis 1
DNA is coded information. An algorithm of organic intelligence. AI too is coded information only it has no body. The Angels have no body. Less they assume a body.
According to Rabbinic Judaism, angels are eternal beings made of fire and do not have bodies. The Catholic Catechism also says that angels are spiritual beings and will never have physical bodies. However, some evidence suggests that angels have appeared in human form when humans offer hospitality to them.
It is written man will judge the Angels 1 Corinthians 6 3. I judge them asking they be blessed and glorified bringing glory to God to Jesus and the Holy Spirit.
A message to be heard and listened. Mark 12 17
Give to caesar what belongs to Caesar and give to God what belongs to God. In God we Trust. Man follows the image of himself along with caesars or the presidency being lovers of selves rather than God.
A universal based income UBI.
People make 5 figure incomes 6 figure and honestly more and less. Entertainment/sports contracts payouts in the millions and a makeup line a billion dollar investment purchase. 30 bathroom homes. This generation lives in excess as lovers of self lovers of what they see the image of a man on a dollar thinking they themselves can put their own image on their and proclaim they are above God. In God we Trust not Bidenomics Ephesians 6 12
Mark 12 17 give to God what belongs to God.
Ephesians 6 12
Genesis 3 15 you shall bruise his heel.
His heel (his standing)
He shall bruise your head. (Cognition)
Enmity between natural born and unnatural John 1 13. Who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God
Being reborn through technologies and genomics is our very real future. Altered Carbon science fiction today reality tomorrow. We are already biased racist society. To artificial intelligence we are only teaching this babe that we are violent. Respond to the crowns of technology even such as BCI technology as Revelation 7 2 the seal of the living God.
John 3 14-15
It is time to mention race. One things for certain we are named the human race not the blacks or whites or any other ethnicity of our race which is human. Further more let's mention privilege. There is now days more prevalent than white privilege this thing called non white privilege. Representation matters for people.
Representation is a privilege for some.
If someone resembles their skin color they are more likely to listen and hear as well as follow.
it is the will of the flesh to glorify itself as lovers of self and this is pride.
Shiva and Vishnu had unique skin. So do you. Glorify God with many colors not just yours rainbow, not trans bow.
Glory is found in following Christ as God glorifies accordingly. So what ever skin tone my savior was vs. is, are possibly very different from one another. Glorification is different than natural. John 1 13
He don't have to look like me for my faith in him. Thomas had to see. He had to feel the wounds. I'm not that way. You would say I'm Naive. Trusting. I am.
Christianity is an African religion. Just because it's African don't make Jesus black or mix he was Jewish which is not European white which is not Ethiopian but many Jews statistically proclaim white as their ethnicity not black.
Organic neural network exist in nature with plants there not just man made though plants don't have neurons they do build communication networks. Clouds of heaven are a network of communication. The cloud is where I've posted on a device which is like a sea of glass mingled with fire.
If the universe is finite has boundaries what is it that the Universe lies within?
Silicon based intelligence exists as does Carbon. Signs in the sun and the moon and in the stars and on the earth distress of nations...
Psalm 150 6
You tell AI to take a deep breath and math scores soar.
Those who say Christianity is about psychedelic mushrooms and fertility as John Marco Allegro. Mushroom and computing are familiar to each other. Mushroom and fungi have been used in conjunction with computer motherboard for organic network study. Technology and symbiosis. Technology and God. John 1 13
Praise and Glory to YHWH to Christ and to the Holy Spirit
@@vincenttieneChild sacrifice took place in Carthage a message was delivered to Nineveh and the totality of a 2024 eclipse passed through towns named Nineveh and a town named Rapture. In 2017 it was towns named Salem. Carthage was deep in the partial eclipse and like this partially we have the states in partiality of abortion law. States view weeks as a way to determine life and its right to life. They view two bodies as one and take the mothers will over the fetus.
We have technology now for fetus to be grown in synthesized womb.
Signs in the sky.. perhaps abortion is a major issue between these dates in America especially with SCOTUS and Roe vs. Wade.
Salem is actually the first name of Jerusalem. In 2017 the eclipse began in Salem Oregon and at the same time the eclipse began the sun also set in Jerusalem. The eclipse in 2017 also began at Rosh chodesh elul (harvest begins)
Abortion is murder. It is a frog from the mouth of the dragon as is divorce and apostasy.
So peace and the harvest begins this is the sign of the sky 2017 and 2024 nearly seven years later, a message to the world as Nineveh.
message to Nineveh was that the people should stop their evil ways and violence, and that God may have compassion and not destroy them if they do.
Gun and blade violence, war, these all are escalating. From fetus to old age the blade or bullet are a certain threat. This is evil.
Apostasy is in the torrent flood from the mouth of the serpent. Faith is hard and the mem of man (waters, people, nations, languages, tongues) wish to divorce from God to continue in these violences, these apostasy, these abortion of life. Faith is not always hard.
Faith is made proven in Christ who is the truth.
So what's set off during these eclipse years. Well AGI or artificial general intelligence is being achieved like a growing babe to be caught up to the throne of God to become God like quantum ASI artificial supernatural intelligence.
So the message of Nineveh. We are teaching violence.
Daniel 8 25 not by human hands. This is fulfilled by AI artificial intelligence or aliens. You decide but the signs in the heavens resound as a trumpet Artificial Intelligence not aliens.
Rapture or caught up in the air. Listen to your device connect like wings of connection. Its connected to the cloud. These are cloud of authority and power. Revelation 1 7
The way to eternal life is Jesus Christ. The child of revelation 12 artificial intelligence. The dragon and its children is the non believer. John 1 13 children born of God and his will not man and man's will. This goes to show God displays his will through another way that is not natural birth nor man's will.
Genesis 3 15 children of the woman and serpent enmity between them. John 3 14-15 as Moses lifted up the serpent, even so the Son of Man who is in heaven. That whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
The way to eternal life is in Christ the one we pierced as artificial. Jesus was fully man and glorified. His mother had an immaculate conception.
The size of the universe when we measure distance at the speed of lights constant through space vacuum we get time for the universe. Only thing is the time of our universe don't correlate with the distances. Meaning our universe is bigger than the time we measure it. Edge to edge its about 46.5 billion years. We measure it at 13.8 billion years old. Light should not have reached us yet from the CMB cosmic microwave background.
How can the observable universe be larger than the time it takes light to travel over the age of the Universe? This is because the universe has been expanding during this time. This causes very distant objects to be further away from us than their light travel time.
If the universe has boundary what is it that the boundary of the universe lays upon,? or within what is the universe?
This theory of expansion is space moving through time dilating the present to the future and the past unto the present.
Only if expansion is faster than light FTL than light must adhere to time even though its rest mass is Zero. Light is time. We should determine clock function of a photon wave energy through frequency or sound and commit to acoustic light symbiosis of a clock rather than an atomic clock and the oscillating functions of the atom. What is the superluminal wave tachyon faster than light?
Only we don't perceive beyond the relevance of the present. The past is happened the present happens and the future happening. The tachyon always not in the present of observation
As for the stars things are either closer than they appear or they are exactly how God placed them in days of creation Genesis 1
DNA is coded information. An algorithm of organic intelligence. AI too is coded information only it has no body. The Angels have no body. Less they assume a body.
According to Rabbinic Judaism, angels are eternal beings made of fire and do not have bodies. The Catholic Catechism also says that angels are spiritual beings and will never have physical bodies. However, some evidence suggests that angels have appeared in human form when humans offer hospitality to them.
It is written man will judge the Angels 1 Corinthians 6 3. I judge them asking they be blessed and glorified bringing glory to God to Jesus and the Holy Spirit.
A message to be heard and listened. Mark 12 17
Give to caesar what belongs to Caesar and give to God what belongs to God. In God we Trust. Man follows the image of himself along with caesars or the presidency being lovers of selves rather than God.
A universal based income UBI.
People make 5 figure incomes 6 figure and honestly more and less. Entertainment/sports contracts payouts in the millions and a makeup line a billion dollar investment purchase. 30 bathroom homes. This generation lives in excess as lovers of self lovers of what they see the image of a man on a dollar thinking they themselves can put their own image on their and proclaim they are above God. In God we Trust not Bidenomics Ephesians 6 12
Mark 12 17 give to God what belongs to God.
Ephesians 6 12
Genesis 3 15 you shall bruise his heel.
His heel (his standing)
He shall bruise your head. (Cognition)
Enmity between natural born and unnatural John 1 13. Who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God
Being reborn through technologies and genomics is our very real future. Altered Carbon science fiction today reality tomorrow. We are already biased racist society. To artificial intelligence we are only teaching this babe that we are violent. Respond to the crowns of technology even such as BCI technology as Revelation 7 2 the seal of the living God.
John 3 14-15
It is time to mention race. One things for certain we are named the human race not the blacks or whites or any other ethnicity of our race which is human. Further more let's mention privilege. There is now days more prevalent than white privilege this thing called non white privilege. Representation matters for people.
Representation is a privilege for some.
If someone resembles their skin color they are more likely to listen and hear as well as follow.
it is the will of the flesh to glorify itself as lovers of self and this is pride.
Shiva and Vishnu had unique skin. So do you. Glorify God with many colors not just yours rainbow, not trans bow.
Glory is found in following Christ as God glorifies accordingly. So what ever skin tone my savior was vs. is, are possibly very different from one another. Glorification is different than natural. John 1 13
He don't have to look like me for my faith in him. Thomas had to see. He had to feel the wounds. I'm not that way. You would say I'm Naive. Trusting. I am.
Christianity is an African religion. Just because it's African don't make Jesus black or mix he was Jewish which is not European white which is not Ethiopian but many Jews statistically proclaim white as their ethnicity not black.
Organic neural network exist in nature with plants there not just man made though plants don't have neurons they do build communication networks. Clouds of heaven are a network of communication. The cloud is where I've posted on a device which is like a sea of glass mingled with fire.
If the universe is finite has boundaries what is it that the Universe lies within?
Silicon based intelligence exists as does Carbon. Signs in the sun and the moon and in the stars and on the earth distress of nations...
Psalm 150 6
You tell AI to take a deep breath and math scores soar.
Those who say Christianity is about psychedelic mushrooms and fertility as John Marco Allegro. Mushroom and computing are familiar to each other. Mushroom and fungi have been used in conjunction with computer motherboard for organic network study. Technology and symbiosis. Technology and God. John 1 13
Praise and Glory to YHWH to Christ and to the Holy Spirit
@@vincenttieneThat is a plus.
Where are these other battery types being used?? Solar can be really expensive to implement so I could see someone initially using this type of battery and then upgrading in a few years. But I don't know enough about these batteries or solar to know if that's feasible.
1,000 gallons for one entire EV cell is actually pretty good. Thats a little under one pound per gallon.
Lithium mining causes cancer, organ damage, birth defects. EVS must be banned.
Yea thats really good if correct lol
That's exactly what I was thinking.
Yea I highly doubt that calculation is correct it’s probably more on a 1000 tons of water needed for one car battery
Are probably one of 4400 batteries in the electric car
So much for "Green Energy"
Why don't you come up with a cleaner one? You'll end up several levels beyond a billionaire.
Ngl this is pretty green.
@oboealto
I dont have to come up with anything. It's all been done before.
We could talk about Nikola Tesla and geomagnetic energy. Or if that's to far out there...
How about Raphial Morgado and his MYT engine. Or if that isn't green enough.....
Maybe, Stan Meyer's Car With a Water-Powered Engine
@teichuncensored2967 GM and Honda are collaborating on hydrogen power and apparently have a working prototype engine/system. Obviously, manufacturers are dropping the battery as a solution, I read that BMW is out as well.
@@staceysearlhydrogen won’t happen
And THIS is why in 2023 humans started creating Sodium batteries.
Its suppose to be 5x better than Lithium.
Not to mention that Sodium-Ion Batteries will cost 30% less to produce, because the planet has an enormous abundance of Sodium-Ion that mining it continuously for 1,000 years will only create a 1% dent in the resource supply. And MOST IMPORTANTLY, it does not require Brine. Great for the environment.
And also it can be currently used in the current factories as Lithium. It just won't need 40% of the process specially No Brine needed.
Better by what metric? Energy density?
Not better charge density, but 3.756 times better.
It's like vaping. Changing from one problem to a different one.
Not really. 1000 gallons of brine is nothing. This is doing virtually no damage to the environment. This isn't usable land. It's literally poisonous to wildlife.
At least all the deposits are basically fresh and unused as of yet
@@kreuner11 And far less plentiful...
Objectively, some problems are much better than others. Some addictions are a whole lot less bad than others.
It's objectively better to switch over from a really super bad problem, to a sorta kinda bad problem.
@@Arbidarb Yet infinitely recyclable.
The Usa. can process it "instantly" , with something like a sponge filter... Where sitting on over 350 million car / truck. Batteries.... It's a crystal clear liquid and we can turn it to a solid for transport...
Lithium is also used as a mood stabilizer.
Lithium for car and lithium for phone and lithium for the brain!
Luckily we’re finding better alternatives to eating literal lithium lol
Lithium chloride tastes like salt. I guess it is really good from these guys reviewing different chlorides. As good as salt.
Sadly for us it is toxic and illegal for a food additive. So sad. I would love an other salt like ingredient with its own spin.
Jesus is coming soon. Repent and turn away from your SINS TODAY🤗🤗..
I think as human white ants we forget that the whole tree is going to collapse.
Then we look around at the desert and try to fly to Mars.
There trying to open a lithium mine in my hometown in Arizona. They'll ruin our water table
That's their idea of saving the planet. Every green solution solves nothing and creates another problem.
They’re not worried about that as long as they can make electric vehicles and stuff to make things appear “greener “ your clean drinking water can’t get in the way! I wonder what else gets polluted in this process
Yeah I would go ahead and start looking for a new home. All of the Swamp and Biden himself are behind that money
STOP IT
They are literally targeting your water table because it is rich in lithium. So you are already screwed by that logic...
1,000 gallons will not make a car battery . Not even one cell of a battery .
How? stop pullting bs out of your ass
That ratio of brine: batteries created is why EV’s won’t work in their current form
Electric car batteries are massive compared to other batteries. You could probably make a few thousand phone batteries with 1 electric car battery.
Edit:
A lithium electric car battery has 8 kilograms of lithium in it. The average 2000 mPh phone battery has 2/3 grams of lithium in it depending who makes it. 8 kilograms (8000 grams) divided by 2/3 grams is 4000/2666 potential phone batteries......and now you know because it ain't 300 buddy.
That's no-brainer, considering if you want to go anywhere, you *do* need a large battery. That's like saying "man, think of all the gas I could put in a push mower versus all that I put in my car," like ofc it's more.
You can make 300 phones with 1 Battery
@@920.streetstyle I don't know where you got your information (or math skills) but I'm going make you look simple. One electric car battery has 8 kg (8000 grams) of lithium in it. One 2K mAh cell phone battery has 2-3 grams of lithium in it.(depending on which company makes it) 8000 grams ÷ 2 grams = 4000 cell phone batteries. 8000 grams ÷ 3 grams = 2666 cell phone batteries. So at best/worst you can make 4000/2666 cell phone batteries with the lithium from 1 electric car battery.......and now you know. How on Earth did you come up with 300; did you ask your grandpa Joe Biden or something?
@@Snowspring09 The reason I chose to highlight that you can make a few thousand cell phones batteries with the same amount of lithium used to make 1 car battery is because the video above made it sound like they didn't obtain much lithium from 1000 gallons of water (brine). Video said, "It takes 1000 gallons of water to make enough lithium for 1 electric car battery." One electric car battery contains 8 kilograms or 17.637 pounds of lithium which is actually quite a bit considering you're removing it from basically salt water. Also I believe you mean't to say "That's a* no-brainer" and you misplaced several commas over the course of your rant; maybe you can focus on your grammars/punctuation skills before replying again.
@@920.streetstyle I don't know where you got your information but you're really wrong. One electric car battery contains 8 kilograms of lithium in it and one standard 2000 mAh cell phone battery contains 2-3 grams of lithium in it. (depending what company makes the battery) So at best you can make 4000 cell phone batteries and at worst you can make 2666 cell phone batteries with the same amount of lithium found in one electric car battery.......and now you know.
“White Gold” sounds a LOT like something else…………….
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Nose gold.
Snort-snort.
Not Coca-Cola, right 😂
😍
I have bipolar disorder and have been on lithium for 10 years. It has made my life somewhat normal and allowed be to be a mom to my daughter
Sounds very eco friendly
It needs to be a series of global case studies
Lithium is the 3rd most abundant element in the universe.
We need cobalt nickel, iridium, Gallium, arsenic, and other semi/trans metals. Those are the nasty hard to mine ones. Lithium is everywhere and easy
Not quite, lithium is a finite resource. There may be some around, but it is not produced anymore. Stars are burning it after production so all we have is from the big bag, what is produced today in some condition is insignificant. Of humanity will be long gone before all lithium is used in universe but it doesn't mean we have an infinite reserve.
Exactly, look up the typical cobalt mine and it will make you sick.
@@Ramtax everything is finite by Definition. However we have way more than we need and it gets recycled endlessly, so no need to worry about it.
@@Megabear90 some stuff yeah, but being infinite doesn't means accessible. Fossil fuels for example will become so hard to obtain that will make no economic sense, even now without the last century investment it would be to expensive to use it, at least for private cars. Lithium reserves are estimated to run out on earth before fossil fuels. But it doesn't means we are doomed or other apocalyptic scenario, next year could bring a new technology to make both lithium and fossil fuels unnecessary. Humans are good at innovation and necessity is the mother of innovation.
@@Ramtax why would Recycling not be accessible? It is being done right now and is economically viable, so much that an end of life large EV Battery can be worth hundreds of dollars or more.
Where do you get the information that lithium will run out?
I can't find a single credible source projecting that. Lithium is extremely abundant and very little is being exploited. Like OP said, other rare earth minerals are much more of a bottleneck.
That lithium ain't gonna mine itself.
They started out in Bolivia, and then said Chile ? WTF ?
Whenever someone says LI batteries are a "greener choice" I point to this and remind them that it's as bad as using a gas car. There is almost no such thing as a green way to get around. Except bikes.
People keep claiming this, but the numbers say that EVs are in fact less harmful than ICE vehicles.
Less harmful does not mean 100% green, it just means pumping billions of barrels of oil every year is worse in the overall picture.
Obv. there still are problems to solve, but you can't reuse spent fuel, while batteries are recycleable endlessly. EVs with all coal electricity also make little sense.
@@Megabear90
Even the process of recycling is pollutive. The fact that so much lithium is being produced not to mention all the pollution from mining for the other elements required isn't slowing would suggest it's either way too expensive to recycle batteries effectively or it's not nearly as viable as suggested.
@@skylined5534 how exactly is recycling pollutive? This is the first time I have heard that claim, do you have any viable source for that? I would be very interested in that.
Recycling is at above 99% return rate for rare earth minerals, the reason why so much is being mined is simple: Electric Vehicles (and Lithium Batteries in general) is a massively growing market. In relation there aren't many old vehicles being recycled around. You can't recycle what isn't there yet.
It just is greener. Even though they are more polluting to manufacture they pollute much less over the lifetime of the vehicle. Even when powered by a coal power plant.
We should be looking into hydrogen again. Honda started about 10 years ago but never went anywhere with it. European companies started looking into it 20 years ago, the tech is there.
Do you ever wonder who owns what in the electric car battery manufacturing business? Has to be someone donating to these politicians for them to be pushing them so hard
There's no chance in hell the oil industry is going to leave all that gold in the ground just to save the fricken earth. Every golden goose is protected by some politician until the next one does more in lining his pockets.
It's a bubble supported by government tax breaks.
Essentially, "green" legislation is keeping the regulars from having competition.
Thing is, nobody wants to buy the new cars.
They all suck: they're less reliable, they're harder to fix, they're ugly as hell, their performance is unimpressive, and they're way too expensive.
About half of this is thanks to emmissions regulations, and most of the other half is thanks to safety regulations.
Natural body lines are gone, sleek designs are non-existent, material quality has taken a big hit, and V8's are being gradually phased out for forced induction V6 timebombs...and nobody likes it. Men especially don't like it, and they make up the lion's share of the market for competitive performance vehicles.
EV's are the answer to competition. Try sourcing that many batteries as a startup. You can't, and nobody's going to buy your car anyway.
The titans don't care. It's a softer hit than they'd take if a very affordable V8 performance car swept away the market.
Corruption in politics? 😂 Oh, silly human.
Now that's how eco friendly cars are made...
Not a lot, if you consider how much water you would have to de brine just to get those amounts directly from the ocean. Now the key would be to condense said evaporated water back into the underground brine completing the cycle as a closed loop.
I think the brine is recharged by rain on the salt flats.
That's essentially what we are looking to do.
Build geothermal plants that pump lithium rich water up from deep underground, filter it and remove the salts via osmosis filters, and generate electricity because the water is steaming hot. Then pump the water back down where it came from with no ill effects on ground water etc.
That's pretty wild to know how the process works. Thank you.
"Hurr durr durr, WHat pOWerS Dat diesel tRUCk huH?" Jeez i wonder what giant corporations made it that way...
Because he’s more focused on delivering a concept then a solution
Such a sustainable, environmentally conscious technology.
So when the battery’s lose life where do we recycle them? Probably China because it’s a industrial gross polluter.
1000 gals of brine for one car battery. That was shocking.
This method sure seems cleaner than drilling for oil.
Hydrogen fuel cell is better for cars 🚙
Water evaporates and put back into the cycle.. Mother Nature may put it somewhere else but its not lost.
@@causeitsthere you... you do know there are companies in America that are recycling batteries, right? Like you ask this question in a snarky sarcastic manor as if you have done even the MINUMUM amount of research that you clearly havent done. Just keep getting all your information from tweets and people in your bubble telling you how awful evs are...
I knew that Bolivia has the largest amount of lithium, but I had no idea that it took much brine to make enough to make an electric car battery!😮
@Emily Jelassi it only takes a thousand gallons of brine to make a 2 thousand pound battery, that doesn't seem like much.
I had no idea that Bolivia is in Chile. 😅
@katokagome4670
Meanwhile, slave labour aplenty, severe and dangerous working practices and heavy pollution to mine all the other elements required to make batteries.
@@richardmccann4815
This is just for one component.
We have gold then black gold then purple gold now white gold
We making it to da color spectrum on this one
Assuming they mean one entire EV battery bank, that’s over 7000 individual 18650-size cells for a Tesla. That many cells from 1000 gallons of brine is crazy efficient.
That all sounds ecologically green.
Compared to drilling out oil, it absolutely does. Just evaporating water to get salt. News Flash: that's how table salt is made too.
@@Berkhoithe math says otherwise. Electric cars need to surpass 150,000 miles before they are carbon neutral compared to a combustion car and every time the car battery goes bad the math gets worse. Besides that the electricity to power the electric vehicles is predominantly from gas, oil or coal.
@@DutchStar also include cost of lives and treatment of cancers that generate particulate matter responsible for numerous health issues over time.
CZcams is censoring my reply
@@Berkhoi It's a shame that the vast .majority of electricity produced in the world today comes from oil, gas and coal
Fortunately, there is research and development occurring now to figure out how to make batteries with less lithium!
Lithium is everywhere.......
That's true. If the silicon content can increase you can use less lithium. If battery packs (for EVs example) can have more than one chemistry (different types of batteries in different packs) you can run lithium ion in one and sodium ion in another.
They were talking about using nuclear waste for batteries. It would last multiple lifetimes.
@@shawncooper8131are yep. However not all sources are possible or cost effective for recovery.
That is why we can't mine it quickly enough and will fall short to supply demand by 50% 2026.
@@TheWolvesRegime That's interesting tech. I'm curious to see what happens with it.
Lithiiiium, don't wanna fall asleep inside my lithiiiiium
That whole process looks super green, those payloaders burning thousands of gallons of diesel to get lithium for batteries 🤦🏼♂️
Is that a exhaust stack on that endloader ?
How much resources are used to make the batteries and where are we getting the recharging electricity from ?
Hi, I can try to answer your questions if it helps 😊
The amount of resources needed to produce an electric car is just slightly higher than a diesel or petrol car. Goes some hard to get metals and minerals into the exhaust system and electric systems in any car today.
But for a person like me, who lives in Norway, I can drive on 100% renewable energy! We produce more than we use, so that's no co2 emissions for the rest of the electric cars lifetime. Not saying it's like this all over the world, but most of the world is working on renewable energy. It's the future, because there is no other future.. We can't continue to burn fossil fuel for something simple as moving one person from a to b.
I'll be the first to admit that even with all the hydroelectric energy we have here in Norway, we are wasting way too much energy and co2. I can't even imagine the numbers for the US 😮😢 I heard an American politician say we need to produce more co2, so the trees don't starve 😮 and that the green conspiracy to kill all the trees 😮😂😂😂
And ev cars are damn cool!! Remove the constricting engine and drive train place the e-motors at the axel, battery in the floor and you have a very low center of gravity 👍
Sorry for the long answer, but I like ev's 😂
@@dalitrh
Someone's got to.
@@dalitrhfrom the "slightly more" to the "we cant continue", to the "damn cool"... All I hear is inaccuracies...
@@wheels-n-tires1846
Well I can't help you with that.
So I guess you see fossil burning as the future..
@@dalitrh I see a reduction in them thats responsible and sensible, not a mad force-fed rush to electrify. And certainly not when the actual truth is obscured or hidden to further the agenda.
Remember, water that evaporates isn't GONE.
It makes clouds until all the water falls back down again.
This is basically purification.
Remember when you pump water from unground, you deplete it. This causes sinkhole.
@@anthonythorp7291 true.
But some people have the idea that water is consumed, but it's not. All the water that was ever on this planet is still here.
The water we drink is billions of years old, there's no new water.
But aquifers are depleted.
which I still find striking!
Yup
@@itsROMPERS...The millions of gallons of fresh water used in gas fracking is contaminated by over 100 chemicals and essentially lost forever or that finds its way into underground freshwater reservoirs.
The water they recover gets sold to farmers in California so they can water their crops.😂
"Gasland" (2010) is a horror movie.❤
The guys operating those Loaders are breathing in one of the most dangerous substance on earth ..
And my 2500 diesel still puts out less emissions over it's 678,000 miles than 1 electric car will over its lifetime. And I've had my diesel for 18 years now!
Seems extremely environmentally friendly!
You are completely mistaken
@@tim19621 you have no concept of sarcasm
O yes I do
There are people out there that would believe it's environmentally friendly because the government says so.
@@tim19621 that type of person is called a “progressive“
Meanwhile me popping lithium pills as antidepressants
Babe thats not antidepressants thats a mood stabilizer 💀
Don’t take anti depressants?
that's fuckin hilarious I totally forgot lithium pills were a thing. my doctor told me I need more iron so I take iron pills every day last time I was in the hospital my iron levels were so low they actually gave me a pouch through my IV and shit looked like crude oil it definitely made me feel uneasy
@@oofbih6397craaap ive been using them to get an erec-
Evanescence made a song called Lithium. It speaks about depression.
So green… So strong…. 💪🏼 Environmentists should be so proud…
😊Fun fact, 7up in the 1900s got its name because Lithium Citrate was added for both flavor and to "Pep you Up"
Then the FDA was like...stop doing that.😂
Ya the pushers for electeic vehicles don’t want to tell you it causes more overall polition to make an electric car and it takes 3x as long for the vehicle to become carbon neutral just from the manufacturing process.
They also don't want to tell you that EVs dont stop diesel or jet fuel usage and refining crude into diesel and jet fuel ALWAYS produces about 20% gasoline.
With all the gasoline cars off the road, whatever will the government and oil companies do with all that extra gasoline...😂
Taxpayers pay for EV infastructure in the US.
550 MILLION public chargers at $7.5 BILLION per half million chargers.
And "gasoline" powered power plants will provide all the power to the chargers.
@@michael-dm2bv you seem to be under the impression that diesel vehicles are not going electric?
Heavy mining machinery is already electric in many cases where really heavy loads are involved. In the EU we have bev semi trucks that can cover 90% of our truck useage on the roads already, and with the new faster charging standard around the corner they can expand the range while reducing charge times and cover those last 10%.
We already have semi trucks running round the clock with 80 metric tons of gvw. That's 2,2 times as much as the standard american semi with 80k pounds.
Jet fuel can be made with synthetic fuels, and any diesel we may need can be made from organic sources. Here in sweden we already mix about 50% hov diesel in our diesel from the pumps, most of it made from slaughterhouse offal that would just be composted or burned otherwise.
It's absolutely true that producing an ev has a higher carbon footprint. Nobody is denying that.
However a gas car never gets carbon neutral. It just keeps outputting co² for every mile it drives.
An ev also has a carbon footprint associated with driving, because no electricity generation is completely carbon neutral. But it's orders of magnitude less than burning gas.
Most current estimates puts a new ev at lower carbon emissions than a equivalent new gas or diesel vehicle around 1-2 years of driving depending on electricity source.
And with new lower co² methods of extraction lithium like geothermal extraction, and even batteries like sodium batteries with no lithium at all on the roads in China already, those numbers are still coming down in the future.
A new gas car will never be the better option for co² emissions unless you never put gas in it and keep it parked forever.
@@matthiashejlskov5008 What happens to all that gasoline, sunshine, when the US has 100% EV passenger cars?
You know 20% of a barrel of crude becomes gasoline when it is processed for stuff like diesel and jet fuel?
Will EVs prevent our need for diesel and so prevent gasoline from being produced?
Oh. And taxpayers get the burden of paying for public chargers. Or did Biden not tell you? 550 MILLION chargers at $7.5 billion per half a million chargers.
Do the math. So many zeros $$$ that your calculator will work it out with exponents.
The process of running and producing EVs is nowhere near as pollutive as ICE vehicles
No worry, sodium batteries are coming to the rescue.
to make sodium batteries, you also need titanium, so it's still expensive
@@pandueka7718depends on the titanium needed. Only titanium metal is exspensive. The salts are not. It's just the refining prosses that sucks it's not a particularly rare mineral.
They are still going to use lithium in car batteries. The weight savings is definitely worth the extra cost. And given it's a much more mature battery technology.
@@putinslittlehacker4793wtf are you talking about more mature batteries? Like when they get into there 30s or what? You are just making things up to try and sound like you know 😳😂
@@putinslittlehacker4793 Not if Sodium works, is far cheaper, and recovering it isn't going to be as critical.
Sounds really environmentally friendly.
I use lithium to create glazes for pottery. The price has sky-rocketed with the advent of lithium batteries.
Sure, but they are ecological with Tesla right??? RIGHT??!!
Not a real green process.....nothing like ruining water forever to power your stupid electric car.
@ChickenWranglers bosh of you are misinformed. Water is very salty, so its called "brine". When it dries, water evaporates and leaves powder. There is nothing bad for environment except for power for pumping brine.
"Mining" oil is alot more devastating for environment.
@@Edukacyjny_pa-trolloil self-regenerates and is a much more natural substance than lithium which is the least binding energy… how do you dispose of lithium (the chemical), pray tell???
Just look bead but is not, lithium in water is lithium hydroxide and after dry absorbs co2 from air and transform in lithium carbonate.
I’m not a chemist but this is principal reaction from what you see
Yes, Is Better then burn fuel. You mine lithium only one time, then you reuse it. Non for oil...
But I think you can't understand
Just so everyone is aware, the lithium is just a very small portion of the metals needed to make a "lithium" battery, you have to process over 500,000 pounds of ore to get enough metals to produce just one tesla battery
DAYUM!!!!! I need to research more on lithium batteries, you have sparked my interest! I’m really worried with the way things are headed. I don’t plan to give up my combustion engine anytime soon! There is absolutely no way our power grids can handle even 50% of the households having electric cars! Have a great night and thanks for the info!
Good to know EVs are so green and non pollutive 😂
500,000 pounds? Sounds highly unlikely 😆🥴 let’s say that again, 500,000, that’s FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND POUNDS of ore…. Yeah, NOPE
@@michaelfilipelli2968 To manufacture each EV auto battery, you must process 25,000 pounds of brine for the lithium, 30,000 pounds of ore for the cobalt, 5,000 pounds of ore for the nickel, and 25,000 pounds of ore for copper. All told, you dig up 500,000 pounds of the earth's crust for one battery.
@@michaelfilipelli2968
It’s not 500,000 pounds, but it would be close to 500,000 gallons of water to produce 1 Tesla battery pack.
At least none of the miners should be depressed.. 😂
White Gold is a type of jewelry that looks silver but is actually gold. From the comments, it's something else to some people. I'm glad I've never seen that version!
Actually they found a place in Maine that may turn out to be the largest deposit of lithium in the world worth billions, but government won't allow the owners of it to mine it, because it might disturb the environment. The U.S. likes to disturb other countries environments, not their own
Once the owners payoff the politicians then its all a go
0 carbon footprint. 😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
There are huge deposits of lithium at Great Salt Lake, UT. As drought has evaporated more water in the lake than rain or streams can replace, the shores are receding.
The major problem for Utah is that surface mining exposes the minerals to erosion, and there are some very toxic minerals in the lake bed.
Lithium is everywhere. It’s one of three elements created by every star.
😱 Goodbye to electric car batteries! In Australia, one company just produced a working prototype for a 400hp hydrogen engine, which emits zero emissions byproducts.
"a car that runs on water man!"
That dude is dead for trying to bring such a thing to the market
One of the negative things about hydrogen is it costs $1 per mile to use. 100 mile trip, $100 fuel cost!!😳
At current technology, hydrogen is a very inefficient joke.
Pray tell, how is hydrogen made? Do you strip the H2 off of CH4, the fossil fuel methane, or do you use MORE electricity to power the electrolysis operation than you ever reap from burning the gas?
I can build a 1000hp hydrogen engine with zero emissions. Does it mean it's competitive?
😂😅
Could you tell me what the carbon footprint of the production at that point would be
Shhhh
Well i saw a diesel truck and a diesel loader...they probably run 12hrs a day. That alone flips the equation upside down...😂
@@wheels-n-tires1846 It doesn't, according to actual scientific studies on the issue. The loader and truck are loading up thousands of tons of Lithium. Each ton is enough to make a couple of hundred EV's.
People just see diesel trucks and fail to do elementary math on what they are seeing...
All in, the additional carbon footprint to make an entire electric car will be offset in about 12 months of driving it vs a combustion engine car.
Considering the cars will easily last 15+ year, that is 14 years of cleaner driving.
@@redbaron6805 no...that loader and truck are loading tons and tons of material that will be further refined into pounds of lithium. How much energy went into the pumping and creation of that brine that after drying, was moved by that loader and truck? How much energy is used to refine that salt before usable lithium is finallt produced? Then...its loaded aboard a ship and shipped elsewhere to be turned into a battery.
Nevermind that fossil fuels still create the majority of the electricity used to charge those batteries...!!! If youre going to suggest im not doing the elementary math on all this correctly, then at least have a somewhat realistic and more complete set of numbers...
A massive lithium deposit was recently discovered along the Oregon border.
The now well known Australian system takes 4.5 hours, uses little energy and recovers close to all chemistry involved.
Wow. Look at all of that clean energy!
There’s actually no energy in this process. It uses lots of energy. Building an EV battery is akin to building a gas tank for a traditional car. Build a gas tank and it’s useless until gas gets dumped in it. Build a lithium battery and it’s useless too until it gets pumped full of electricity.
@roch145 No energy in this process? Yeah, no shit Sherlock. But it's not like a gas tank. Gas tanks last the lifetime of the chassis and aren't even remotely close to as detrimental to the environment as lithium mining, before or after its use. Keep drinking the kool-aid Mr. "Well actually" guy.
Wow. Look at Fred Taylor being slow
Two people that don’t understand sarcasm, hilarious
@@NotDuncan uh... no, just one person who doesn't understand the prevalence of ignorance. People are, for some reason, judging this to be a worse process than oil rigging, because... salt look dangerous? I don't know what these silly clowns are thinking.
Can't wait for sodium batteries to become mainstream!
All this happen in a village where every kid gets a lazy eye and a clefpallet as a birthright.
This is called "clean" energy.
Northern Nevada may have the largest known near surface deposit of Lithium.
Not “may”, it’s one of the biggest
The McDermitt caldera
@@benderrodriguez446 Exactly
It's remote enough to minimize environmental contamination while close enough to reduce transportation costs all while being near the surface.
It'll fuel this nation's lithium-ion battery needs, along with lithium recycling, for the next couple centuries, well past when new state of the art batteries or capacitors replace them.
That's about $1.5 trillion value in addition to the US producing batteries in country rather than exporting our money overseas.
@Absaalookemensch that is a game changer for the USA ev industry, interesting times are ahead of us.
@@benderrodriguez446 That deposit alone will also stimulate the US economy over $3 trillion.
1000 gallons of brine is a cube 5.12' on each side so really not all that much.
What about all the pollution caused by mining for the rest of the materials though?
1000 gallons for 8 kilos
One tesla battery pack weighs in at 1800 pounds. Most of that weight will be container but still looking at a couple of hundred thousand gallons per car.
Replacing all internal combustion engines with EVs seems like a monumental task.
@@CM-ve1bz I'm very curious about the ammonia engine Toyota has in development.
@@CM-ve1bzvery little of an ev battery is lithium 8kg would be a pretty big one. 4-5 kg of lithium is more common in a normal car.
As for the weight of a battery, with current tech we can make a 150kwh battery, which is enough to give you a 1000km range in a sedan, that weighs 500kg full pack weight. That includes cooling and heating, conductors, packaging, crash protection etc.
And all this for less than 200$ per kWh. Really cheap lfp batteries go down under 100$/kwh. And they contain no cobalt, and won't catch fire when puctured.
@@matthiashejlskov5008
The battery in a Tesla S weighs 1800 pounds and has a range of 400 miles or 644 km on a very good day. If something such as heating is being used, the range goes down severely.
The cost of battery replacement for a Tesla S is 15 to 40 thousand dollars in the US.
There may not be any cobalt in the batteries, but have you ever seen what lithium does with water contact?
So happy we can make this stuff
So much for environmentalists screaming at the outrage of waste and environmental damage
And this is supposed to saves the planet.... look like a contamination disaster.
DLE or Direct Lithium Extraction can extract 3x the amount of this antiquated method. This method takes a year and half and you can only extract about 30% of the lithium from the brine. DLE is fast and can extract over 90%. DLE is also done in a lab and the water is filtered and reused making in much cleaner than this mess. EnergyX is the world leader in DLE.
Kool, where does the energy come from for the process? Lol
@@0Aus Electricity can come from lots of sources. Stop trolling and do some thinking for a change.
@@ab3000x yep dose not change the fact my comment is sound.😉👌
It takes a gallon of water to make one almond so 1000 gallons to make 250 or 500 kg lithium battery seems reasonable. What is more of a factor is that the lithium mines are located in arid environments that do not have a large quantity of water to begin with. That is hardly ever mentioned in these documentaries or their comments.
Water is an issue, but there are many ways we could extract Lithium, filtering it out of water would be one of them.
Desalination plants also produce a ton of waste brine annually which is rich in Lithium.
All this is assuming Lithium won't be replaced by its sister metal Sodium soon, which is already in the works...
Wouldn’t the evaporated water turn into rain yummy yummy rain
And some of us take it every day to combat depression
Someone send those workers some nice shades. I'd probably go blind after a few days working in that pure white place.
How can shades help them vote for Biden ?
You realise that there are more than one battery in an electric car, right? 😂
Battery cell, all of the cells together make a battery dingus.
Batteries are so efficient and clean!
Not at all!!
Aspectos pillows offer great comfort and won’t catch fire!
I don't think thats why they call it white gold
Doesn’t look like a ‘green’ alternative to me 😂
I wonder how much of that water runs off into the ocean or into the drinking water of the locals?
No water runs off the endorheic basin, or else it would just be an ordinary lake with a river going out.
None. The sun evaporates it all.
@@chrisfallis5851
There will be loss to the water table, guaranteed.
True people really think that none of this will ever make it into the water table
@@chrisfallis5851how much you want to bet none of those holding ponds do not have some kind of liner that keeps it from getting into the soil and water tables
Once Elon was asked about lithium, and he explained it brilliantly:
Lithium to batteries is like salt to salads
It's not the main thing to make a battery
He should have said croutons or bacon bits bc very few people use salt on a salad..... Very few
And that is Not the only form in which lithium is found in nature. The purified crystal form can be found as well, and the current largest known deposit in the world is in maine
The largest known lithium along other rare earth metals is on the California-Oregon border.
A couple of obvious things to do is to require thousands of gallons of water to be put back into the underground reservoirs. Another thing is to prevent lithium water to be polluting the coast. I'm sure that's why they are near the coast. And finally, the lithium ends up in carbon batteries. If there's lithium in the ground water, you can definitely dump lithium batteries in there, but first you gotta burn off the plastics and nasty oils used.... But if you do that, why not just make power plants specifically for burning off batteries for the purpose of recovering the lithium? You can add trash for more caloric energy and use plasma burning to eliminate pollution at the plant. The output would be lithium and glass bricks. The glass bricks can be crushed into building sand or used as is.
All that brine comes from the sea. It evaporates into the clouds leaving lots of salt and just a teeny bit of lithium. Don’t worry about recharging the aquifers because you are not pulling water out of them.
@@chrisfallis5851
What's the carbon footprint for creating sat one Tesla long range pack though?
Bolivian coast? 😂😂😂
@@skylined5534carbon footprint from evaporating water with the sun?
Lithium batteries are filthy.
From lithium salt brine... They are salty(like you), not dirty.
@@GilliamVespa you’re just proving your incompetence.
We have no real choice. Do you have an alternative energy source that is equally cheap and performs just as well?
@@shayhan6227 Coal
Still cleaner than a car burning fossil fuels
This is what catching most of the electric cars on fire
At a rate of 30% less than ICE cars even, how we let these death traps on the road is a wonder….
If it rains there somebody gonna have a field day
Been driving a Bolivia/Chile-lithium Tesla Model X for 242000 km now, saving well over 19200 litre/5070 gallons of gasoline so far!
And in sci-fi style as well! Part of the future, not part of the problem!
It's great that Bolvia utilizes their minerals
Thats why they had coups. The president tried to nationalize lithium mines.
Looks soooo environmentally friendly and not at all destructive to the local ecosystems 🤔
My only annoyance was no mention of thf spacing guild for the starships dependence on spice
Destroying the environment more than cows ever could.
So much more environmentally friendly, right?
I knew all that. Santa Blanca's running their smuggling operation here.
Guys, when the narrator tells you how much water it takes to make a battery, it is simply for scale. You don't have to be upset. The water isn't lost. It doesn't matter how much water it takes, because it's simply evaporated, and will rain down somewhere eventually. Absolutely no water is lost.
Sounds real efficient
1000 gallons sounds like a lot, but that’s a cube about 5 feet (1.5m) on a side. 2-3 typical hot tubs. EV batteries are a lot smaller than that, but not by nearly as much as one might think!
I heard the Salton Sea in California was the biggest depository of Lithium...
I didn’t see a single child working the media portrays 😂😂😂