John MacArthur Says Jesus DIDN'T Die For The Sins of the World
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- čas přidán 10. 03. 2024
- John MacArthur and many other people who call themselves Calvinists don't actually believe that Jesus died for the sins of the whole world. This is not the historical view of the church and even the reformers believed that Christ died for the sins of the whole world.
John 1:29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, "Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!
And when he says, the sin Of The World, he extends this favor indiscriminately to the whole human race; - John Calvin
John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
And he has employed the universal term whosoever, both to invite all indiscriminately to partake of life, and to cut off every excuse from unbelievers. Such is also the import of the term World, which he formerly used; for though nothing will be found inthe world that is worthy of the favor of God, yet he shows himself to be reconciled to the whole world, when he invites all men without exception to the faith of Christ, which is nothing else than an entrance into life. - John Calvin
John 4:42 Then they said to the woman, "Now we believe, not because of what you said, for we ourselves have heard Him and we know that this is indeed the Christ, the Savior of the world."
John 6:51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever; and the bread that I shall give is My flesh, which I shall give for the life of the world."
John 12:47 And if anyone hears My words and does not believe, I do not judge him; for I did not come to judge the world but to save the world.
Why then does Christ not choose to condemn them? It is because he lays aside for a time the office of a judge, and offers salvation to all without reserve, and stretches out his arms to embrace all, that all may be the more encouraged to repent. - John Calvin
1 John 2:2 And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world.
1 John 4:14 And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent the Son as Savior of the world.
2 Peter 2:1 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction.
Hebrews 2:9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels, for the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, that He, by the grace of God, might taste death for everyone.
1 Timothy 4:10-11 For to this end we both labor and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of those who believe. These things command and teach.
Paul makes grace common to all men, not because it in fact extends to all, but because it is offered to all. Although Christ suffered for the sins of the world, and is offered by the goodness of God without distinction to all men, yet not all receive Him. - John Calvin (Romans 5:18)
It is also a fact, without controversy, that Christ came to atone for the sins “of the whole world.” But the solution of all difficulty is immediately at hand, in the truth and fact, that it is “whosoever believeth in Him” that “shall not perish, but shall have eternal life.” John Calvin (Treatise on Eternal Predestination)
For it is the will of God that we should seek the salvation of all men without exception, as Christ suffered for the sins of the whole world. - John Calvin Commentary (Galatians 5:12)
Martin Luther
You may say: “Who knows whether Christ also bore my sin? I have no doubt that He bore the sin of St. Peter, St. Paul, and other saints; these were pious people. Oh, that I were like St. Peter or St. Paul!” Don’t you hear what St. John says in our text: “This is the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world”? And you cannot deny that you are also part of this world, for you were born of man and woman. You are not a cow or a pig. It follows that your sins must be included, as well as the sins of St. Peter or St. Paul. And just as you are unable to expiate your sins, so they have been unable to expiate theirs. There are no exceptions here. Therefore do not yield to your own thoughts, but cling to the words which guarantee you and all believers forgiveness of sin through the Lamb. Don’t you hear? There is nothing missing from the Lamb. He bears all the sins of the world from its inception; this implies that He also bears yours, and offers you grace. - Martin Luther (John 1:29) - Zábava
Very well done Video Caleb! Blessings!
Thanks brother :)
@@iThinkBiblicallyCaleb, Seems to me you have double standards. You QUOTED FROM your OWN HEAD AND NOT THE VERY WORD OF GOD AS WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE: For Example when you said, “The day of atonement in Leviticus 16, the animal is killed on the altar, the sins of Israel are laid upon the animal and by the way anybody could join the nation of Israel, anybody could join if you are a slave living in Israel, as well you could actually get your freedom by becoming an Israelite on the day of atonement and on the year of Jubillee you’d be set free, but you know the priests would put the sins of all the people, lay his hands upon them and the sins of all the people would go upon this animal, the animal would be killed, then the priests would take the blood unto the most holy place , then afterwards, and this is where the very presence of God was, he would sprinkle the blood in there, the afterwards he would come out and sprinkle the people with the blood, and really this is a picture of Christ dying on the cross for our sins…”
Caleb, WHY DIDN’T YOU OPEN UP YOUR BIBLE AND JUST READ IT AS IT SAYS? This what the Word of GOD says within the Context of Leviticus 16:
”This shall be a statute forever for you: In the seventh month, on the tenth day of the month, you shall afflict your souls, and do no work at all, whether a native of your own country or a stranger who (((DWELLS AMONG you))). For on that day the priest shall make atonement for you, to cleanse you, that you may be clean from all your sins before the Lord.“
Leviticus 16:29-30
So, NO, the ATONEMENT WAS NOT JUST FOR “ANYBODY” DWELLING outside of the Nation of Israel, but as you EVEN quoted by your own words “If you were a slave LIVING IN ISRAEL”,
SO THE ATONEMENT WAS NOT FOR “ALL” LITERALLY including anybody outside of the dwelling of Israel.
@@iThinkBiblicallynailed this video brother.
God bless you 🙏🏻
Can we have a cross over event with Caleb, Shawn, and Matt (Lion of Fire)??
Beware when all men speak well of you.
HE DIED FOR ALL WHO BELIEVE.. BELIEVE
BELIEVE
“When the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and honored the word of the Lord; and all who were appointed for eternal life believed” Acts 13:48 the belief comes AFTER the appointment
@@kingterence1598Help me to stop. I need my soul saved I don't want to be given over. Cut. TV movies. Please pray
He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on them.
WRONG! God would be a LIAR if this were true, because God is NOT willing that ANY should perish! This includes the people that reject Jesus. Jesus did die for those that reject Him. The reason why they do not go to Heaven is because they are rejecting His substitutionary atonement for their sins. Therefore, although their sins have been paid for, these people are rejecting Christ's payment; THEREFORE, they pay for their own sins. SOMEONE must pay! God is not to blame if they choose to pay themselves, rather than accept the free gift of eternal life.
@phoenixgamer1565 the passage you quote is in reference to the patience of God till the elect are saved.
Christ is THE sufficient sacrifice for ALL; but the EFFECIENCY of that sacrifice comes only through BELIEF (faith).
Thanks for tis, I am copying this!
Faith is given to those chosen from the foundation of the world, aka as the elect. That's according to the Bible.
BLASPHEMER! Get thee behind me, satan! The work of Christ depends on NOTHING man does.
@@jonnyfrench19 All believers are called the "elect" and the "chosen". This is based on God's FOREKNOWLEDGE of everyone who will repent and
come to Christ throughout human history.
The video above cites verse after verse showing Christ died for EVERY sinner who ever lived. I could add a few to that list myself.
Paul is a liar? ACTS 17:30b ...but now calleth ALL men EVERYWHERE to repent.
Peter...2 PET 3:9b... God...is not willing that ANY should perish, but that ALL should come to repentance.
I know of people who I am convinced died and are in hell now. So even though they heard the gospel of salvation numerous times, they were
not "chosen" and God therefore opened up hell for them and they never had a chance at salvation?
Give me a break....
@@saltyolbroad2962 Repentance from sin and faith in Christ are not things sinners "DO"....
No one comes to salvation unless they are drawn to God by the preaching of the gospel and convicted by the holy Spirit, realizing they are
under His condemnation.
"This is the work of God, that ye believe on Him whom He has sent..."
Most people reject salvation because "...men love darkness more than light, because their deeds are evil"
Apparently you believe I was saved long before I accepted Christ because I was chosen?
Not everyone who calls me Lord Lord will enter God's kingdom
That’s for those playing church. There are people that truly do not believe.
Very true you need to actually worship God not just give lip service and then continue in your sin
That's because they trusted in the themselves and their works for Heaven. They did not trust Jesus for the salvation, they trusted in what they did to save themselves. Ephesians 2:8-9
This is the truth. Even tho they do things in the name of Jesus, they trusted in these works instead of just trusting in Jesus's works and therefore he will say to them he never knew them. It's not about a sin issue or not. It's about who you trust to make you innocent of that sin you struggle with. The truth is that we are all filthy rags, and need to trust in Jesus to make us white as snow. It's not about lip service or not. And the ones who won't enter the kingdom never believed in others than themselves. It IS about God loving the world so much that he sent his only begotten son to die in our place so we could have everlasting life with him. The ONLY "works" God requires of us is to believe in the one that He sent to us.
And if we believe, we trust. If we don't trust in him, but trust our own works, we're not really believing in him, are we?
This is not something that should be scary to believers, as it so many times is. It scares believers into doubting if they will get to heaven and they doubt if they are leading a good enough life. It's paradoxal that it is possible to birth such doubts out of the bible texts that are there to encourage us to not do exactly that. The texts are there to tell us that we are good enough for jesus if we just believe in him and trust in him for salvation. And He'll take care of the rest. The fact that we are sinners and still humans with a broken and corrupt flesh is of no consequence other than we change the attitude towards our sinful nature when we get saved. It doesn't mean we just stop sinning all of a sudden. No, this is not a get out of jail free card and sin as much as u want. You won't want to sin and not regret it if you believe. I'm not talking about specific sins. But I'm talking about the attitude towards sinful nature.
Stop struggling with being perfect, that's impossible. Trust in Jesus instead.
You people are very foolish and ignorant. This man took what John MacArthur said way out of context. To call John MacArthur a false prophet is totally ridiculous. U people are lost
Something given to everyone does not necessarily mean everyone accepting that something.
If I pay for 500 train tickets for everyone and only 300 take’s the tickets and 200 remain behind, it don’t mean I only paid for 300 .
So the question is suggesting a part answer.
Jesus died for the world but John 3:16 says “ whosoever believes in Him shall not perish “ meaning it’s conditional to those who believe never mind it’s open to all .
Love the example of the train tickets...perfect
Let's expand the tickets example... if you give out 500 free coupons for a free train ride, and you already KNOW 200 of those cannot and will not be redeemed, how many tickets do you go buy?
Oh, also the first statement isn't quite right... Something given has in fact been accepted, something offered may or may not be.
@@steveh9714 they didn't say the tickets were given, only bought, people had to accept them. Therefore they paid for all 500, but only 300 were accepted and used. All 500 were still paid for..
@@kevinjackson2361 thank you 🙏🏼 you beat me to it and you hit the nail on the head.
So to further answer @steve9714 , yes He would have still paid for everyone in full even though sadly by choice some would not get on board. Let’s take it further , if 500 is the total number, and only three accept Would He still pay for 500 ? Absolutely yes !! Because He paid out of love for all and our failure to accept, does not regulate his response to pay the full price.
@@davidswartzafrica my point was your scenarios are stuck in time, and God is not. Already knowing exactly the correct price for the grace being given and redeemed. I'm not sure as righteous judge he purposely double punishes some sin (with no effect)?
John 3:16
For God so loved the "WORLD"
He gave his beloved son
That whoever believes in him
Should not perish, but have everlasting life
Whosoever believes whom? The predestined before the world creation ephesians 1;3,4 roman 16:25
Ya, that's pretty plain and simple. You would think a well educated teacher like John MacArthur would comprehend it's meaning. I mean a child could understand it's meaning.✌🏼💪🏼🙏🏼
John 17:9 NIV
[9] I pray for them. I am not praying for the world, but for those you have given me, for they are yours.
Why is he praying for a select few, and not everybody?
John 3:19-21 LSB
[19] And this is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil. [20] For everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come to the Light lest his deeds be exposed. [21] But he who practices the truth comes to the Light, so that his deeds may be manifested as having been done by God.
Verse 21 is the world that Christ is praying for.
@@surindafernando in that case, why did Christ have to suffer so much pain if things were predestined before the world? Your predestination supersedes the cross of Christ, which is blasphemy! Only groups/ nations are predestined, never individuals- Ephesians 1 the language is “us and we” not “you and I”, are predestined!
Roman’s nine look at the first five verses talking about nations and Jacob I loved Esau I hated, refers to Genesis 25:23 - there are two nations in your womb; stay in context!
We have the story of Jacob and Esau, and what they did with their free will , see genesis!
@@jjphank christ died to fulfill the first prophesy genesis 3:15
And study ephesians 1:3 and roman 16:25
If we are not saved. It is because we turned him away. Refused to believe. Or worshiped another. An idol or false Gods.
I disagree with the "or we turned away from him" but agree with you with refusing to believe on him. We cannot lose our salvation, the only way someone isn't saved is if they never truly believed in the first place. Jesus made it clear, nothing will be able to take us out of his hands.
Why do some believe, while others do not? Jesus tells us why... "But ye believe not, because ye are not of My sheep... He that is of God heareth God's Words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God."
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1 Corinthians 2:14
And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the Word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48
"Turned away?" You were BORN hating God. Men don't 'turn' from God; they need to be turned TO God.
So whosoever is a condition which all will not meet.I THINK we are having much ado for nothing.@@jeffrachelburkhalter3783
@@c.a.g.3130i HURT myself. Please pray I had the HOLY GHOST but went back iv had enough. Please pray
I told you that you would die in your sins, for unless you believe that I am he you will die in your sins." (John 8:24, ESV)
'Christ died for us while we were yet sinners.' - Truth. 'All have sinned..' Truth.
Who’s we? We as in all humans ever? Or WE as in the predestined elect?
@@AE-xb1hiI have no idea who you are.
And we still sin. There are people preaching this sinless gospel which is false as well! We sin, confess & repent of sin and repeat when necessary. No human is sinless!
🌹 He died for the sins of the world. We have to believe he died and rose again. Believe and Accept this Truth. Turn from sin. 🌹
Those college guys think they are smarter than the Holy Ghost
Christians should not have a condescending spirit against other christians . Those "college guys" took time out from other pursuits to study the word of God, and that should not be mocked.
Thank you for saying this. @@mariecarey3514
@@mariecarey3514No one is mocking that but despising the condescension of stating that HE and THEY are the chosen ones and others cannot come! "Taking time out" as you put it is what SATAN does to pervert the real gospel because the time is limited.
Jesus said he lays down his life for the sheep. Unless someone can convince me that he meant he lays down his life for the sheep and the goats, i will continue to heed Jesus' words and believe that he lay down his life for the sheep.
Amen! I was just thinking about this very same Verse.
Well lets see? Goats are sinners! And thr bible says while we were yet sinners christ died for us!!!!! So theres that!
@@gregb.8280
Yes, we are all sinners, which has nothing to do with the point.
God chose an elect group of people He would have mercy on from the foundation of the world.
This number does not change. God is not going to realize He forgot to elect someone.
These elect are called “sheep” and they are “lost” sheep until they are found!
They are found by the preaching and hearing of the gospel.
Yes, the gospel goes out to “every creature under heaven” because WE do not know who Gods lost sheep are and who will “hear” (obey) the gospel. Only God knows and when a sheep hears God’s voice by the preaching of the gospel, they come running to Jesus.
This is why in John 10 Jesus tells the Pharisees “The reason you don’t believe is BECAUSE you are not my sheep.”
Jesus did not say “The reason you’re not my sheep is because you don’t believe” That is to say, if they would just believe THEN they would be His sheep.
This would make believing a prerequisite to being a sheep.
But Jesus said being a sheep is a prerequisite to believing!
See the difference?
Jesus did not come to turn goats into sheep. He came to “seek and to save that which was lost.” His sheep!
God does not show favoritism.
AMEN!!
Matthew 26:28 For this is My blood of the covenant, being poured out for many, for forgiveness of sins.
Correct... people who don't accept Christ will have to pay for their own sins.
@@mikeallen27
Then why did Jesus pay for their sins on the cross?
@@Ancient-Paths
3 questions for your response...
1) who's the "us" Christ died for in Romans 5:8-10 ?
2) have you ever read the Old Testament before in regards to God's favoritism ?
In what world does God owe you the offer of Grace ?
@@Mattissaved
(1) So the lost are going to confess Jesus died for them?
(2) "For the Lord your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God, who does not show partiality, nor take a bribe" (Deut.10:17)
(3) God does not owe us anything .. but if He has already decided to offer mankind free grace (and He has) then He has to offer it to all - because He despises favouritism (Acts 10:34; Rom. 2:11).
And lo and behold all the Scriptures Caleb quoted clearly show this - and even Calvin, Luther, and Isaac Watts agree.
Even Spurgeon agreed ... and shall add the quote above .... so why do you disagree with your idols?
@Mattissaved do you not understand the gospel? The Bible says that whosoever believes in Christ shall have eternal life... nowhere does it say that every single person goes to heaven. Jesus preached about hell juat as much as heaven if not more... people who don't believe in Jesus absolutely end up in hell.
Now to be fair, that little segment is not all that John MacArther has to say on the subject. You can find, on CZcams, at least one whole sermon where he uses plenty of bible verses. There is plenty to support Divine Election, where God choses certain people, but He also chose Israel and they rejected Him. Also, there is the thought concerning total depravity and man's inability to believe without Divine intervention. And, "the Spirit moves where He wills". One thing that cannot be denied and that is that all believers are called the elect. As I understand it, that means chosen. I look forward to hearing more from you on this subject and I always enjoy watching your videos.
How does one become elect?
Faith!
What are the elect predestined to?
To be holy and blameless before Him!
When was the plan of salvation by faith wrought?
Before the foundation of the world!
Ephesians 1
Timothy 1:9-10
@@lauren8407No. The Bible clearly states that God ordained the elect before the foundation of the world.
@@lauren8407 Nice response. How does it sound if you replace the word elect with Chosen by God? Isn't that what elect means?
Verse that says so please?
”and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world.“
1 John 2:2
This clearly states that the sacrifice isn’t only for the elect. If there’s no limited atonement none of TULIP makes sense.
@@lauren8407 Acts 13:48 And when the gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying the word of the Lord, and as many as were appointed to eternal life believed.
Love the channel but this is poor taste. I suggest you really understand the position of the other side before misrepresenting what they teach. John never said in this clip that “Jesus did not die for the world”. You are simply misrepresenting what Limited Atonement teaches. There is a reason this issue has been debated for hundreds of years by respectable and faithful misters of the gospel. If Calvinism was heresy, then most of the reformers and modern scholarship at seminaries would be heretics. You also said John didn’t quote any scripture but he quoted at least three or four in this same video. He didn’t go in depth because it was a Q&A and John has already spent 50 years teaching the subject.
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Totally agree with you
When anyone disagrees with the doctrine of Calvinism, it’s only because they don’t understand it. Right?
@@mikem3789 no. But when someone misrepresents it, it shows they don’t fully grasp the topic. John MacArthur never stated in this clip that Christ did not die for the world. Calvinism affirms that Christ is the only savior for the whole world. But just because he is the savior of the world does not mean the whole world is saved. For anybody to be in Hell, the atonement has to be limited to only those who believe. For those who don’t believe, the atonement is not efficacious for them. Even if you disagree with Calvinism, you can’t say that Calvinists teach that Christ did not die for the world and claim to “understand” the doctrines of Grace.
@@roberttrevino62800 Here is a quote from JC Ryle from his commentary on the gospel of John. In particular John 1:29. Of course, we may all differ in our interpretation of scripture, but I believe this is biblically consistent with what the Bible teaches. If this is consistent with Calvinism, feel free to reference your sources:
‘I rest in the view of the text that in some ineffable and inscrutable way the whole world’s sin was borne and atoned for by Christ. “He takes away, or makes atonement for, the sin of all the men and women in the world.” I have no doubt, from Scripture, that the vast majority of “the world’s” inhabitants will be found at last to have received no benefit from Christ and to have died in their sins. I repudiate the idea of universal salvation as a dangerous heresy and utterly contrary to Scripture. But the lost will not prove to be lost because Christ did nothing for them. He bore their sins, he carried their transgressions, he provided payment, but they would not put in their claim to any interest in it. He set the prison door open to all, but the majority would not come out and be free. In the work of the Father in election, and of the Spirit in conversion, I see limitation in the Bible most clearly. But in the work of Christ in atonement, I see no limitation. The atonement was made for all the world, though it is applied to and enjoyed by none but believers. Christ’s intercession is the peculiar privilege of His people. But Christ’s atonement is a benefit which is offered freely and honestly to all mankind. In saying all this I am fully aware that the word “world” is sometimes used in a qualified sense, and must be interpreted with some limitation. When it is said, “The world knew Him not” (John i.10), it cannot mean that not a single person in the world knew Him. But in the text before us I see no necessity for limitation. I see the whole mass of mankind’s guilt brought together in one singular word, “the sin of the world,” and that sin, I am told, Christ “takes away.” And I believe the true meaning to be that the Lamb of God has made atonement sufficient for all mankind, though efficient unquestionably to none but believers.’
Keep up the great work Caleb & John MacArthur. I'm grateful for you both. Let's be honest, this is not simple, and for every compelling proof text, there is a counter and equally compelling proof text. That little word 'election' and all it may mean, will not disappear from God's eternal word, any time soon. Jesus is indeed the Lamb who takes away the sin of the world (John 1:29), and yet, no one can come to the Lamb unless the Father who sent Him, draws them (John 6:44).
Agreed, you could say that john McArthur is not wrong either as we were known before the womb, and God knew our choice. It's not about God electing, but knowing who wants to be elected. While Jesus died for the sins of the world, the world will be redeemed, but that does not mean that those who refuse will be saved.
It's a slippery slope, when you start going to the end of Billy Grahm's message that even Buddhist and Muslims who see Jesus as only a Profit, will be saved too.
John did use scripture and he is absolutely correct. Christ died for His sheep, not the goats.
John 10:11 I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep.
John 10:15 Just as the Father knows me and I know the Father; and I lay down my life for the sheep.
Father forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing. That's enough proof for me that my Lord Jesus Christ sacrificed His life for all.
What does it mean to say Jesus blood could cover all sins, but that most reject Jesus' blood and therefore He did not pay for their sins and so they will be going to hell where a second body and soul are destroyed in hell fire?
@@ReligionOfSacrifice He did pay but the payment was rejected, that's how I view it
@@ReligionOfSacrifice It is very simple, they chose to reject Christ's PAYMENT FOR THEIR sins. Therefore, the people that choose to not accept it will be left paying for their own sins. Someone must pay, so it will be the sinner if they reject Jesus.
@@phoenixgamer1565 so now you are saying that man has the ability to choose righteousness without first being chosen by God?
10 As it is written:
“There is no one righteous, not even one;
11 there is no one who understands;
there is no one who seeks God.
12 All have turned away,
they have together become worthless;
The Bible is really clear. We are born dead in our own sin and do not have the ability to choose anything good. No one seeks God. It is only by God’s grace and act of mercy that ANYONE goes to heaven. If God had not chosen us first we would never choose Him.
there is no one who does good,
not even one.” Rom 3:10-12
@@patriciahunter1566 Calvinism is false. Yes, we all can choose to accept the gospel. God would be a liar if He were to choose to only draw some to Himself, rather than everyone.
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”Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.“
John 15:16 KJV
Ok?
The context was his disciples. 🤦♀️
John 6:70
[70]Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?
@@romesaedwards9559 and what are you!?
God wants all men to be saved first Timothy 2:4, second peter 3:9!
God, predestines groups or plurals only, never individuals. Ephesians 1 -2 points: “ us and we” are pre-destined never “you and I“! And 11 times in 11 verses from 3-14 you have to remain “in Christ“ (in him, in whom) to be predestined!
Romans 9:1-3 Paul is talking about the nation of Israel, all the way to the end of chapter 11 ! So, “Jacob, I loved, Esau I hated“ is genesis 25:23 “there are two nations in your womb“! It’s talking about ‘Nations,’ not individuals in the whole context of those three chapters! Stop taking it out of context, along with Ephesians 1!
Of course, we have the story of Jacob and Esau and how Esau despised his birthright !
So God truly does love all people, he truly did make hell for the devil and his angels just as Matthew 25:41 says !
Even the 42 youths, mauled by the 2 bears, was because they mocked Elijah‘s rapture, a.k.a. the resurrection , they were saying “go on up Baldy “ ; and ALL their prophets just recently Were killed by Elijah and they should’ve known to stop worshiping Baal! Bethel was the headquarters of Baal worship, where this took place! 490 priests got killed by Elijah, There was no Priests around,; should’ve been a gigantic clue.
So God never arbitrarily and haphazardly deals with any human being ! His love cannot be measured says Romans 8!
But if you’re a Calvinist, it’s “his love cannot be measured , (Wink, wink)“!
Come out of the false belief system of Calvinism ! Now you have no excuse because you cannot out argue this, let’s hear you try!
Read Matthew 25 the parable of the Calvinists, a.k.a. talents ! Where the guy buried his talent calling God,- somebody who doesn’t judge rightly & he was thrown into hell as a result! He had the wrong view of God, & So Will a Calvinist, they’ll have a callous view of God & The love of Christs sacrificial death on the cross!
Jesus was crucified before the foundations of the world, but he only had to die one time Says hebrews, so don’t get it wrong like Moses; when did Jesus die ?
So this trumps predestination before the foundations of the world, because God chose to to write this to disprove & trump predestination!
Revelation 13:8
"Free will, though it makes evil possible, is the only thing that makes possible any love, goodness, or joy worth having."
- C.S. Lewis
Free will is the freedom to sin against God….
Saved or unsaved, every man has free will
Calvinist say that we don’t have freewill
@@jennamarielovesjesus12 I'm not a Calvinist and I believe we do not have freewill. Jesus did die for all the world, believers and nonbelievers.
“All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out. For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day.”
John 6:37-39 NKJV
I usually like and agree with your videos but If John's point was that the Greek word Kosmos does not mean "Literally every person who ever lived" he has a point, to interpret it that way would demand universalism for example 2 Corinthians 5 :19 "God was in Christ reconciling EVERY HUMAN WHO EVER LIVED to Himself, not imputing their trespasses to them, and has committed to us the word of reconciliation." Also John 1:29 "The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the EVERY HUMAN WHO EVER LIVED!" I assume you are not a universalist who thinks everyone goes to heaven right? You are against five point Calvinism.....I get it but this is not the approach to take because MacArthur has a point. If you want a particular verse Jesus Himself says in John 10:15 that he laid down His life for the sheep, so according to Jesus the people He died for / the people who have their sins atoned for are the sheep aka the elect. Since we do not know who is elect we preach the gospel to every creature and the idea Jesus died for all is explained by the apostles, He died for Jews and Gentiles, for people from every nation, tribe and tongue, therefore Jesus is the savior of "all men" and we are all one in Christ, Jew, Gentile, male, female, slave, free etc. Terms like "all" or "world" rarely if ever refer to literally every human who ever lived. Hope that helps
I answered that point in the video.
@@iThinkBiblically minute marker? Look up the word Kosmos, it does not mean literally every human being, rather the human family in general, neither do we mean that when we use the term "all". MacArthur affirmed that Jesus died for the world, its just how you interpret the world Kosmos. Plus the Day of Atonement argument, it was for those in the Covenant, it was not for the Egyptians or the Philistines.
@@Pastor_Grantthank you for putting this answer so eloquently, Brother. God bless you
@@Pastor_GrantWell said!
@@Pastor_GrantThis is addressed all throughout this video.
MacArthur has never identified as a Calvinist. Where did you get that from? He says God chose us, and we have to choose Him. That is not a Calvinist.
Some Calvinists believe that because He chose us, we choose Him. Even our choices are governed by the eternal decree of God. That because He chose us before the foundations of the world were laid, we respond to that eternal decree because He has predestined us to make that choice.
Jesus came to show us the way as well as taking our place on The Cross.
Then it was our choice to, by Faith, believe or reject Him.
God new who would accept ultimately and who would reject Him.
Why would He even create some to spend ETERNITY in HELL. That sounds like Satan ,not a loving Creator.
@@lb9143 A version of the doctrine of Double Predestination was condemned at The Council of Orange in 529 AD.
Quote: “We not only do not believe that any are foreordained to evil by the power of God, but even state with utter abhorrennce that if there are those who want to believe so evil a thing, they are anathema” (The Council of Orange. Conlclusion. 529 AD)
When I measure all doctrines, I gather information from the Scriptures concerning the character and nature of God, and then I measure that with the claim. If the claim does not line up with the character revealed in the BIBLE then I assume the claims to originate in either the preacher or the one whom the preacher or teacher is influenced by.
Jesus is the Lamb that takes away the sins of the world (all people) John 1:29
Universal salvation is a deception of Satan.
You realize that was John the Baptist speaking. Right? Did he say that He (Jesus) would take away the sins of all people in the World? No, he did not. You are adding extra biblical context not provided by the original reference. Also, John was only baptizing Jews. Make straight the Paths of the Messiah. The baptism of Jesus is with the Holy Spirit!
If Christ died for everyone, then His death is a miserable failure, because there are untold millions in hell for whom He died. Take some time and seriously consider what you're suggesting. Don't tell me that the God of this universe will allow you and I to determine whether or not He receives His greatest glory, think it over and tell me how you can make such a statement.
@@johnhoran9840 Jesus died for everyone, its our choice if we want to accept the free gift. People reject Jesus and doesnt accept the sacrifice. Thats why they are in hell. Hell is the absence of God. God doesn't force Himself on anyone. If you accept the free gift you are saved if you reject it you dont want God
@@anettecoetzee3363 You're saying that Christ's death is ineffectual, and God cannot fail. Salvation by grace is His greatest glory, and He does not leave it up to sinners like you and I. Salvation is of the Lord.
Can you tell me why Jesus said in (John 17:9) I'm not praying for the world but for those in whom you (the Father)hath given to me.
You are OH so correct. Which is why this video FAILS, theologically...and he will not answer you.
As I said elsewhere in response to him:
Your commentaries are usually very good, but not this one. It fails for various reasons, the FIRST of which (since, after all, you do say Scripture should be our standard) is that you omit to report that in the great majority of places, the use of the word "WORLD" usually denotes only SOME or MANY men in the world...and does NOT mean every single last person on planet earth! (Luke 2:1, John 1:10, 3:17, 6:33, 6:51, 7:4, 7:7, 8:26, 12:19, 12:47, 14:17, 14:22, 15:18, 16:20, 17:6, 17:9, 1 Jn 5:19).
Without admitting that foundational, irrefutable fact at the get-go, your thinking that Christ is a "world-wide" Savior for every man, woman and child who has ever lived, must be rejected.
It might also be said that when using the brain God gave us, the perceptive thinker must conclude that if Christ, actually and in fact, suffered for those who are now in, or WILL be sent to Hell, then God is guilty of punishing sin TWICE, requiring a double payment; in other words, once from Christ, and then AGAIN from the individual in Hell for all eternity.
Similar criticism may be levied against those who refer to 1 Tim 2:4, where God "desires that all men be saved", turning the Lord into nothing but a casual observer in the grandstands of the universe eating a bag of popcorn, merely HOPING that someone will come to believe in him by an act of their autonomous, libertarian free will -- of which he has no control. However, going back to verse 2:1, we see that prayers are to be made for... "all men". But does this mean every man on earth without exception? NO! If we were to pray for every man on Earth, there would be no time to do anything else! Moreover, he follows with, "for kings, and all that are in authority". Therefore, the "all men" in 2:4 (and John 12:32) is spoken of in a generic fashion referring to the elect and cannot possibly mean God desires every man on earth to be saved.
See also when they accused Paul of preaching (generically) to "all men everywhere" (Acts 21:28), which he most certainly did not, in actual fact. Consequently, the universal sense with which you and those like you, suppose God wants "all men" on earth to be saved, is biblically untenable.
Good day.
@@mojo7495 Agreed. This video is Arminian nonsense. I was very disappointed.
I would imagine He wouldn't have to pray for anyone if God was sovereign. Perhaps praying for those who steadfastly refuse to repent adds to their condemnation as too did the incarnation. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet believe.
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: 2 and he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
Because any true follower of Christ will be under attack from the devil. The end goal either being decieved or rejecting Christ.
Why didn’t you continue to quote past John 3:17? 18 disproves what you’re trying to say.
”He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.“
John 3:18-21 KJV
How does that refute what I am saying?
@@iThinkBiblically it seems like you are cherry picking verses. You are showing half truths.
Jesus died for everyone to have a chance at salvation, but those who deny Him are hell bound. Not sure if that the debate you are conveying is that all go to heaven or if you are just saying that everyone has a chance.
@@Ephesians-yn8ux You obviously haven’t watched the video. Maybe try and watch. The video first and then comment.
@@Ephesians-yn8ux All I am saying is that Jesus died for the sins of the world but that we still need to repent and believe to be saved.
@@iThinkBiblically I did watch the video in full, maybe I missed where you expressly said that but it wasn’t clear to me.
There is so much that can be said on the subject. For people who really want to learn what Calvinists do and don't believe, I recommend checking out:
"The Potter's Freedom: A Defense of the Reformation and the Rebuttal of Norman Geisler's Chosen But Free" by James R. White and "Chosen By God" by RC Sproul.
I personally believe that 5 point Calvinism aligns perfectly with what the Bible says.
R. C. Spoul was a false teacher who believed in grace + works
Remember, Jesus and Paul and Peter were speaking primarily to a Jewish audience, so When scripture says 'the whole world" it means not just the Jews.
"I pray for them. I do not pray for the world but for those whom You have given Me, for they are Yours. John 17:9
John MacArthur explained simple and clearly where everyone can be understood. He did not say that Jesus died for a small group of people! You said it.
Great job Caleb....these discernment ministries are mainly Calvinists and they Never talk about Anyone or anything inside their camp. Keep it up. Blessings in Jesus.
Yeah, I hope I can steer a few people away from Calvinism. It’s a terrible system of belief.
Cult
Let me disagree with you brother. The doctorine is mostly biblical but there are some flaws also. Never describe it as a cult@iThinkBiblically
@@iThinkBiblically NO. The only "terrible system" are your conclusions in this video, and they are 100% wrong. You would easily lose in a debate beginning with my very first point below. I'm posting my reply to you to a few others on here so I can, to use your words, "hopefully steer a few people away" from your theological disaster.
As I said elsewhere:
Your commentaries are usually very good, but not this one. It fails for various reasons, the FIRST of which (since, after all, you do say Scripture should be our standard) is that you omit to report that in the great majority of places, the use of the word "WORLD" usually denotes only SOME or MANY men in the world...and does NOT mean every single last person on planet earth! (Luke 2:1, John 1:10, 3:17, 6:33, 6:51, 7:4, 7:7, 8:26, 12:19, 12:47, 14:17, 14:22, 15:18, 16:20, 17:6, 17:9, 1 Jn 5:19).
Without admitting that foundational, irrefutable fact at the get-go, your thinking that Christ is a "world-wide" Savior for every man, woman and child who has ever lived, must be rejected.
It might also be said that when using the brain God gave us, the perceptive thinker must conclude that if Christ, actually and in fact, suffered for those who are now in, or WILL be sent to Hell, then God is guilty of punishing sin TWICE, requiring a double payment; in other words, once from Christ, and then AGAIN from the individual in Hell for all eternity.
Similar criticism may be levied against those who refer to 1 Tim 2:4, where God "desires that all men be saved", turning the Lord into nothing but a casual observer in the grandstands of the universe eating a bag of popcorn, merely HOPING that someone will come to believe in him by an act of their autonomous, libertarian free will -- of which he has no control. However, going back to verse 2:1, we see that prayers are to be made for... "all men". But does this mean every man on earth without exception? NO! If we were to pray for every man on Earth, there would be no time to do anything else! Moreover, he follows with, "for kings, and all that are in authority". Therefore, the "all men" in 2:4 (and John 12:32) is spoken of in a generic fashion referring to the elect and cannot possibly mean God desires every man on earth to be saved.
See also when they accused Paul of preaching (generically) to "all men everywhere" (Acts 21:28), which he most certainly did not, in actual fact. Consequently, the universal sense with which you and those like you, suppose God wants "all men" on earth to be saved, is biblically untenable.
Good day.
@@iThinkBiblicallyIt’s incredible how angry people get over the sovereignty of God. If you chose to believe in God and another person does not, and you were both given the same opportunity to believe, you have something to brag about/be proud of. You made the better choice. Truth is, God chose YOU, and you have nothing to brag about. That’s probably why it’s so difficult to accept for you.
"NO ONE comes to Me✝️ UNLESS the FATHER, who sent ME✝️, DRAWS him and I WILL raise HIM 👆🏽 up on the LAST DAY "-Jesus
Get it right bruh ☝🏽
How does He draw when it is suggested He has created you to believe in the first place?
John 6:64
Yet there are some of you who do not believe.” For Jesus had known from the beginning which of them did not believe and who would betray him.
65 He went on to say, “This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless the Father has enabled them.”
66 From this time many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed him.
God drawn them because he knew who would eventually believe…
Not because he chose them prior to them believing .
“And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.”
Was Jesus lifted up? Get it right!
God is not willing that ANY should perish but that ALL should come to repentance.
You believe a false gospel.
@@jonathansheldon9060 you just ADDED that, "God drawn them because he KNEW who would EVENTUALLY believe…"
Try adding THIS, "ALL that the FATHER GIVES to Me, WILL COME to ME..." -Jesus
@@evank3217 A "false-gospel??" Fool... Jesus Himself spat those words in your grill.
Kind Sir could you please share with me the point of reference for when you said "you can get your freedom by becoming an Israelite on the Day of Atonement.11:55
James 3:1 - Let not many of you become teachers, my brethren, knowing that as such we will incur a stricter judgment
Calvinism is why MacArthur teaches falsely, You can take the 666 and still get forgiveness when revelation 14 and 20 say you will go to hell forever.
So who you gonna believe the Bible or MacArthur?
Whose will is greater, stronger, and takes precedence?
1. The will of man (man's "decision")
2. The will of God (God's "decision")
Asking for a friend…
@@xyberfunk God wants all the people to be saved, but everybody has free will choices all day long, including choosing your eternal destination. This is all throughout the Bible from chapter 2 on!
God put a tree in the Garden of Eden saying ‘do not eat from it’ to give them a free will choice !
If Someone told you don’t jump off a cliff, but you do it anyway, who’s fault is that?
The pagan cult of trinitarianism is why John MacArthur is a false teacher
Yea it’s funny how Justin Peters got on Pastor Begg for what he told the grandma about attending her granddaughters gay wedding BUT had nothing to say about MacArthur saying we can take the mark of the beast and be forgiven
@@jennamarielovesjesus12 Justin Peters is a disgrace
The Reformed Hymn Writer, Isaac Watts wrote: “Jesus, my great High Priest, has died; I seek no sacrifice beside. His blood did once for ALL atone, And now it pleads before the throne.” In one Reformed hymn book I noticed this verse had been omitted!
Yep.. ALL of His elect
@@xyberfunk But the Bible doesn't say that - does it? We must be careful not to ADD to His Word. Christ's blood atoned for ALL mankind. When a person puts his trust in Christ as Lord and Saviour - then he is born again and becomes one of the "elect."
Isaac Watts appears to have been in the same theological camp as Amyraut, Baxter, Newton, Henry, Simeon, Doddridge and Ryle in that Christ’s gospel is truly available for the whole world, but only the elect effectually partake of it because God has drawn those who He foreknew believed.
@@SimonPeterSutherland Then Isaac Watts should not have written "His blood did once for ALL atone" ... if that was not what he meant. I shall let him know when I meet him!
The Bible does not say "Christ’s gospel is truly available for the whole world, but only the elect effectually partake of it because God has drawn those who He foreknew believed" .... does it?
Jesus' blood "atoned for the sins of the WHOLE WORLD" (1 John 2:2). He died that "He might taste death for EVERYONE” (Heb. 2:9). “For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for ALL people” (Titus 2:11). "For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the WORLD might be saved through Him”
John 3:17).
"He [John the Baptist] came as a witness, to bear witness about the Light, that ALL might believe through him... The True Light, which ENLIGHTENS EVERYONE... Behold the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the WORLD" (John 1:7-9,29)
Did God only draw and enlighten those he had predestined? No, He enlightened "EVERYONE" and drew "ALL people" to Himself.
John 12:32: “And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw ALL people to Myself.”
When a person puts his trust in Christ as Lord and Saviour - THEN he is born again and becomes one of God's "elect." ANYONE can come to Christ and receive His salvation. Hallelujah.
“For Christ’s love compels us, because we are convinced that One died for ALL" (2 Cor. 5:14).
I agree with MacArthur. Jesus also said in John 6:65 " This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless the Father has enabled him-.
So glad to have found your channel. Very concise and biblically explained.
Thanks Janet :)
14 I am the good shepherd; and I know My sheep, and am known by My own. 15 As the Father knows Me, even so I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep
So, you think that an obscure verse like that trump the clear ones I quoted? Lol
@@iThinkBiblicallyYou come across as very proud & having no fear of GOD with your “LOL”, and calling John 10:14-15 an “OBSCURE VERSE”.
The Bible has NO CONTRADICTIONS. And out of the abundance of your heart you have spoken. You have called John 10:14 -15 an “obscure verse”.
OBSCURE? Obscure means “Not clearly expressed or easily understood”. Is that how John 10:14-15 comes across to you? OBSCURE? You don’t UNDERSTAND IT? That’s just it. You either don’t understand that Scripture or you DO NOT WANT TO SUBMIT TO WHAT IT SAYS in its context.
“I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life 👉🏻for the sheep. But a hireling, he who is not the shepherd, one who does not own the sheep, sees the wolf coming and leaves the sheep and flees; and the wolf catches the sheep and scatters them. The hireling flees because he is a hireling and does not care about the sheep. I am the good shepherd; and I know My sheep, and am known by My own. As the Father knows Me, even so I know the Father; and I lay down My life 👉🏻for the sheep.“
John 10:11-15
CHRIST SAID IT TWICE within a few verses, WHO HE GAVE HIS LIFE FOR, and THAT’S NOT CLEAR ENOUGH?
@@iThinkBiblically
No... but the verse he is posting leaves no ambiguity. Jesus laid down his life for the sheep,not the World.
You hijack the word "World🌎" which means "Kosmos" and foist a false definition in its place & claim that it means "everybody whoever lived" with no scriptural support anywhere.
@@iThinkBiblicallyWhy is this verse suddenly "obscure"?
In John 10:14, the Lord Jesus Christ is speaking! He says, “I am the Good Shepherd; I know my sheep and My sheep know Me…”. You laugh and call this an obscure verse!!!
Seems to me Caleb has double standards. Caleb QUOTED FROM HIS OWN HEAD AND NOT THE VERY WORD OF GOD AS WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE: For Example... Caleb said, “The day of atonement in Leviticus 16, the animal is killed on the altar, the sins of Israel are laid upon the animal and by the way anybody could join the nation of Israel, anybody could join if you are a slave living in Israel, as well you could actually get your freedom by becoming an Israelite on the day of atonement and on the year of Jubillee you’d be set free, but you know the priests would put the sins of all the people, lay his hands upon them and the sins of all the people would go upon this animal, the animal would be killed, then the priests would take the blood unit the most holy place , then afterwards, and this is where the very presence of God was, he would sprinkle the blood in there, the afterwards he would come out and sprinkle the people with the blood, and really this is a picture of Christ dying on the cross for our sins…”
Caleb, WHY DIDN’T YOU OPEN UP YOUR BIBLE AND JUST READ IT AS IT SAYS? This what the Word of GOD says within the Context of Leviticus 16:
”This shall be a statute forever for you: In the seventh month, on the tenth day of the month, you shall afflict your souls, and do no work at all, whether a native of your own country or a stranger who (((DWELLS AMONG you))). For on that day the priest shall make atonement for you, to cleanse you, that you may be clean from all your sins before the Lord.“
Leviticus 16:29-30
So, NO, the ATONEMENT WAS NOT JUST FOR “ANYBODY” DWELLING outside of the Nation of Israel, but as you EVEN quoted by your own words “If you were a slave LIVING IN ISRAEL”,
SO THE ATONEMENT WAS NOT FOR “ALL” LITERALLY anybody outside of the dwelling of Israel.
The scriptures you provide is great!
Thank you Jesus for dying for my sins!! Without you, we have no hope.
John has also denied the blood of Christ. He said we aren't saved by His blood, but by His death. John said that death is a euphemism for blood. He's wrong. No its not. We are saved by the BLOOD OF THE LAMB.
When did he say that garbage?
Has that other black calvinist dude said similar stuff what's his name again I forget
@@earthangel7253 Voddie Buchanan?
The Passover was never a blood sacrifice for sins.
We are saved because we repent and return to the Father. Prodigal son parable required no blood sacrifice. As John taught we must repent for the forgiveness of sins.
@jdaze1 you have no idea what you're talking about. Wow. You need toread your Bible friend 😄
Christ said that when he returns many will say they know him but Christ will reject them because they never obeyed his teachings therefore worship Christ today if you want to be saved on his return
I think you are wrong to suggest that the atonement is for every single person. The world could also mean those that God has chosen. I think Joihn analogy is absolutely correct and logical. If the atonement is real and it is for every one (every single one), then no one should go to hell since the price has been paid for everyone. Would that not be an injustice for you to pay for something that has already been paid for you. No one deserve to be saved and the fact that God saved those He wishes to save does not make Him partial because that is His eternal decision based on God divine will and not on man whatsoever.
John MacArther is very smart, he said it the way it is, only those who repent are saved. The rest of the world is doomed.
As matter of fact, it is True!!
AMEN!
Amen. So good to see people actually reading their Bibles.
But the question wasn't "Is everyone saved?" The question was "Did Jesus die for all or only a select few?".
@losnfjslefn8857
God said it wasn't his will that any perish but that all people come to repentence so Christ died for all people but only those who repent and except his free gift will be saved
Thank you Caleb for using the same measure for all camps
You obviously didn't listen to Pastor John.
Why are you attacking this brother?
Perhaps you should read 2 Corinthians and examine yourself to see if you are in the faith.
Thankyou for all your labours😊
This video showed me that you are impartial. Thank you for making it.
Are you kidding me? How is he IMPARTIAL if he is dead set against the theology of another?
You are not thinking clearly.
Even the other dying thief on the cross could be saved if he only would believe as the one who responded by faith trusting in Christ. Thanks Caleb for your explanation on this matter. God bless.
So does that make everyone to you? He could have means he was not saved my dear.
@@4custaywithme ?
Yes he wasn’t saved for the Exact reason the person stated that !
You forgot to mention the other one & for that Caleb still failed on this mat👎ter
So when and where did this doctrine of the chosen or predestination come from? Blessings from Canada 🇨🇦
Hello Sir…is there any way you could post the John calvin quotes with book and chapter or where you pulled those from.
He died for all. We have to accept that. and follow him.
Can you read john 11:50-52
McArthur is right in that not everyone will be in Heaven and that there is a literal Hell, but I have believed He died with the desire that all who hear the Gospel will at some point come to repentance before it is too late for them. It is I think the biggest paradox. God can send preachers to people. He can wean people from their dependency on money, fame, material possessions, etc through allowing hardships, sickness, suffering to set them on a path to come to Him. The Holy Spirit can bring conviction, but God can't force someone who has denied God and His power and Holy attributes and wants to stay in their sin and belief without God to repent and believe.
@@keithpace9870 exactly. my mother and father are two such people. both heard the gospel and saw it in their kids. they still both refused to repent and choose Jesus. my son is an atheist. I complained to God about why he wasn't saving him. well, God did and has done everything possible. he's heard and seen the gospel. he just does not want a relationship with God. free will.
@@jesusisLordperiod. Something for me to pray and hope for for your family members.
To make a fair assessment you should have addressed the verses where the Bible talks about the Elect.. and predestination.. what does that mean? I hope to see you discuss this in the next video...
Yeah, one issue at a time. I’m preparing a video on Romans 9. I will probably do that as a live video.
@@iThinkBiblically I would like for you to connect the ending of Romans 8 in light of the individual salvation being spoken there which then continues into Romans 9. Disconnecting Romans 9 from 8 and making it about 2 Nations (Jacob and Esau) is the usual approach taken to deny God's Sovereignity which otherwise is so evidently clear in Romans 9.
If you accept Christ as your lord and savior. You are the elect. It’s that simple.
@@iThinkBiblically Thank you. I really struggle with the idea of election despite my appreciation for people like Voddie Baucham.
It's never simple for the Calvinist sect. They don't like the simplicity of Christ as the bible says. They are a torn on the side of biblical Christianity.@@YellowCab76
Matt 11 28
Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.”
John 6:44 "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day." No one is saved unless they accept Jesus Christ, no one can come to Christ unless the father draws them to him; those whom the Father has given him. John 17:9 “I pray for them. I do not pray for the world but for those whom You have given Me, for they are Yours."
The sin issue is dealt with on the cross. What’s missing, is glorification, which is only happening to those who trust in Christ. People go to hell because they reject Jesus, not to pay for their sins. Christ covered ALL sins with his blood, reconciling us to the Father.
Please provide some verses that show that people do not go to hell for their sins? Or that every single persons sins are taken care off on the cross except the sin of unbelief?
@@childofgrace1234for the wages of sin is DEATH not hell Adam Eve because of sin brought on death not hell or God woulda just cast them to hell. Christ came as our sacrifice to forgive us of our Sins so we have everlasting life. You will continue to sin untill the day you die but if you don't accept Christ you have no forgivenesd of sins. just like in old testament they had perform animal sacrifices so there blood would wash away there sins but it wasn't enough so Christ came to be that pure sacrifice. Look at all the stuff Noah Abraham Saul David Noah was drunk started vineyard soon he got off ark I'm sure that was stressful experience his boys walkef in on him naked Abraham slept with his daughters drunk I'm sure these weren't only occasions they was drunk David commited adultery killed her husband among the thousands other he killed just open old testament read all the stuff they did but they had faith in God. I bet if I killed three people you'd say I was going to hell.we are chastised on this earth for our sins when we are believers to the point of maybe experiencing early death prison bad health poorness all kinds punishments but no saved individual will go to hell for there sins unless they don't have Christ as there savior.
I have lately great difficulties with Calvinism. I think it is bad doctrine. Eg it puts a lot of our guilt on God, so the sacrifice of Jesus is downgraded. I think Calvinism is not a secondary issue and is bad doctrine.
Yeah I used to think satan made me do bad things but calvanists convinced me God did. Now I know I do.
Thank you for your channel
It's intriguing that I inadvertently found this video while looking for something else. I don't know if I'm grasping the concept or if the other comments are grasping the concept and saying the opposite. I'll need to watch the video again, I guess.... subbed nonetheless so I can watch some of your other stuff.
Divine election is filled in the Word of God. So let me ask you, is the atonement potential?
John MacArthur is losing credibility with me more and more. This is not the first time he has expressed his opinion, without any scriptural backup. He will say things like "I think; I believe". That's not scriptural. Jesus did die for everyone, but, the caveat is that each person must ACCEPT his atonement. So what MacArthur is saying is not true. We must be discerning, and listen to EVERY word the teachers say. Words matter.
I need to stop. I have ran. Enough. What to do to get back i went back to destruction. I Was wrong. I need HEALTH healing. No more
What do you do with John 17:9. Asking with sincerity because i still haven't ironed out where I stand on all this stuff.
It actually supports my view because the word "world" means the unsaved in that verse. Jesus is praying for his sheep in that verse. Nothing wrong with that really. I don't always pray for the whole world. Sometimes I pray for specific people.
@@iThinkBiblically I just find it odd that Jesus would stop and make that distinction. I thought Matthew Henry's commentary on that particular verse was interesting.
Also this vers might Help aswell when you read that chapter again Joh 17:20 "I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word;
people will get saved & sadly others will Reject Salvation
@@iThinkBiblically Exegetical calisthenics
Excellent content, brother. Well thought through, well explained, and spot on, as far as I am concerned. Keep up the good work. God bless.
Much appreciated!
Are you saying world always refers to every single person?
This is 1 of many times John McArthur has spoken heresy during a question & answer. He once said that JESUS (GOD) would understand and forgive someone for accepting the mark of the beast.
What did he 😅😅
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during the tribulation people are going to be saved up till the end, lots of these people must have accepted the mark
@imabot4553 Wrong, they suffered and endured until the end.
@@imabot4553 What 😅😅😅
That's not even biblical
Amazing video - I had a lot of questions in this regard - helped me a lot.
Glad it was helpful!
NO! It was a BAD VIDEO.
As I said elsewhere in response to him:
Your commentaries are usually very good, but not this one. It fails for various reasons, the FIRST of which (since, after all, you do say Scripture should be our standard) is that you omit to report that in the great majority of places, the use of the word "WORLD" usually denotes only SOME or MANY men in the world...and does NOT mean every single last person on planet earth! (Luke 2:1, John 1:10, 3:17, 6:33, 6:51, 7:4, 7:7, 8:26, 12:19, 12:47, 14:17, 14:22, 15:18, 16:20, 17:6, 17:9, 1 Jn 5:19).
Without admitting that foundational, irrefutable fact at the get-go, your thinking that Christ is a "world-wide" Savior for every man, woman and child who has ever lived, must be rejected.
It might also be said that when using the brain God gave us, the perceptive thinker must conclude that if Christ, actually and in fact, suffered for those who are now in, or WILL be sent to Hell, then God is guilty of punishing sin TWICE, requiring a double payment; in other words, once from Christ, and then AGAIN from the individual in Hell for all eternity.
Similar criticism may be levied against those who refer to 1 Tim 2:4, where God "desires that all men be saved", turning the Lord into nothing but a casual observer in the grandstands of the universe eating a bag of popcorn, merely HOPING that someone will come to believe in him by an act of their autonomous, libertarian free will -- of which he has no control. However, going back to verse 2:1, we see that prayers are to be made for... "all men". But does this mean every man on earth without exception? NO! If we were to pray for every man on Earth, there would be no time to do anything else! Moreover, he follows with, "for kings, and all that are in authority". Therefore, the "all men" in 2:4 (and John 12:32) is spoken of in a generic fashion referring to the elect and cannot possibly mean God desires every man on earth to be saved.
See also when they accused Paul of preaching (generically) to "all men everywhere" (Acts 21:28), which he most certainly did not, in actual fact. Consequently, the universal sense with which you and those like you, suppose God wants "all men" on earth to be saved, is biblically untenable.
Good day.
Answer this question. If I was speaking to someone and I told him that I would freely give money to anyone who is of my bloodline, and you came along and overheard the conversation I was having with this other person are you entitled to the money because you heard a conversation between two people? The answer is no. Yahusha only came for the lost sheep of Israel. Those who stop doing the commandments of God and we're living like pagan gentiles. Most Christians are pagan worshippers and believe they are God's people. Israel is still his chosen people they have not been replaced by the church. Lastly, Israel is not the wicked that living in the land today they are the ones who were scattered in the slave trade and sent all over the world by cargo slave ships. .
It sounds like you’re saying the same thing but in different ways.
John is saying Salvation is available to everyone but it has to be received. If you receive it, you’re elect and have been imparted the salvation of Christ. If you reject it it’s still available but you’re not elect.
Amen. That is exactly why I said this has been taken way out of context.
Do not misinterpret what JMA said.
Wow, thank you for this teaching! The scripture references were very good to explain this
What do you think this means with your smirk all knowing when Jesus says you did not choose me, but I chose you what do you think that means? Are you gonna pull the head out of your little verse box? Do you think the Christ is allowed to die, for whom he wishes to die since he’s volunteering who made you his master on what is right and wrong.
Exodus, Leviticus and Hebrews supersedes the reformers. The atonement has always been for the people of God, Hebrews 7:25
Denominations have done so much damage to the body of Christ and have confused so many. Pray these people find the truth by faith in Jesus Christ.
Yes but I want back. I didn't mean destructive and chasing world. Satan blind me. Please pray for me back.
13 “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it. This doesn't sound like everyone is entering through the gate!
Only those who believe on the Lord Jesus Christ will be saved (Acts 16: 31)
Great work and supporting your case with Biblical scriptures.
It gets a bit exhausting defending the Sovereignty of God in salvation. The same things get said over and again, but people will be influenced by their heart's desires and rest upon what they believe they understand because stepping outside current understandings is often a terrifying prospect for anyone. Instead of making the rational case with Scripture as authority as I usually do, I thought I ought to present a little reminder in church history. I reckon most here will be familiar with these things, but reminders can often be helpful:
The year is 1517. Rome has a virtual monopoly on the Christian faith and it has effectively been that way for almost 1,100 years. Anyone practicing anything outside the RC's doctrines are subject to death. The texts had been translated into a language no common person could understand. Only highly educated theologians and scholars have access to the Scriptures and can read the Latin it was translated into. During this time, there's a mass exodus of scribes, fleeing areas like Turkey to escape the horde of Muslims who are pushing westward. They flee to Europe, Biblical manuscripts in hand. There a new spirit that defines the age, "Back to the (original) sources". Back to what the Word of God actually says. Erasmus, a Roman Catholic theologian, takes to transcribing from manuscripts, the original Greek found in the NT and on each opposite page, translates that passage into the Latin alongside. It produces variations from texts used by the RC church and to avoid being burned at the stake, Erasmus dedicates his work to the Pope. A few others are engaged in the same activity at the time. The Gutenberg press has been developed and it turns into a race for publication.
Why bother with reminders about all this? Why bother citing this "spirit of the age" that dominates theological circles? Because it succeeded not only in ripping the Word of God from those who would seek to horde and pervert it for their own gains, but also served as a reset in the establishment of sound doctrine, starting from the ground up with the Word of God AND IT ALONE being the basis for its development. The entire focus of the movement is a disregard and discrediting in much of church tradition, refuting the church's authority as the sole means by which Scripture can be understood. In it's place, the focus moves to an understanding in precisely what the Bible says. This is where the authoritative dependence shifts. And the doctrines garnered from this movement all loudly proclaim the Sovereignty of God in all matters, including and most especially in matters of salvation.
As I write this, I'm reading comments below, maligning MacArthur with "modern Calvinistic views" with likes coming from the channel. I contend to you, YOU ARE ROME mentioned above. You have favored the traditions of men, church doctrines which make greater strides toward the serving of their organization's interests over what a straight reading of the Scriptures reveal. You have favored the traditions of your mothers and fathers ahead of the Word of God. We are all, myself included, subject to such influences. I had to break with my raised understandings and it wasn't convenient and produced a good bit of friction for a time, so I understand.
Need we survey the state of the modern evangelical church today? Most denominations are in decay. Is there anyone who would dispute this? And yet, this is where you'd put your faith? On the same organizations that are in the process of capitulating to a world that seeks their demise? It gets very old overcoming the falsely held notion that God's Sovereignty in salvation is some 3rd party philosophy layered over the text. No, rather this is was the understanding which was reached when focus resides solely on the Bible and nothing else. And yet, Armenians contest we follow some guy named John Calvin, whom I've never read. For those who actually believe that, you're peddling in what is now a fully integrated lie.
We can receive the atonement believing in truth but still not be saved in the end. Believing is not a one time believing. It is a continuous belief that must continue unto the end! The Children of Israel all believed when they were delivered out of bondage, they all believed when they passed through the Red Sea. But almost all of them were overthrown in the wilderness, and turned back to Egypt in their hearts. And the reason they could not enter into the promised land was unbelief! You have to finish the coarse! That is why Jesus said repeatedly he who overcomes, he who endures unto the end shall be saved!
So we're the ones who sustain and keep our faith not God?
@@DrewNelson1012 Your hearing what I didn’t say. What I’m saying is God gave us freewill. We can choose to seek after him and walk in the Spirit, or to not seek after him and go back to living after the flesh. This is why Paul said, How shall we escape if we neglect such a great salvation. And in Psalms it asks who shall abide in thy holy hill. And it gives us a short list of those who do, and don’t do. And then says, These are those who seek thee, who seek thy face. Faith works by love, and we love God when we do his word. This is not working your way into the kingdom. This is doing what you confess you believe. And you don’t obey Gods word because of duty, you obey God because you love God. And that love equals saving faith. Because I can’t say I love you all day long, but if my love is only something I say and not shown by what I do. That love is lip service.
@HumbleHeartMinistry. Amen. That is clearly shown throughout Scripture. Trust and obey... Our Lord's warning in John 15 clearly shows this.
I also heard him say that you could take the mark of the beast And go to heaven and I also heard him say under his breath, from the pulpit, it’s not in the blood it was in His body!!
I remember at Bible College that the lecturer said that " Jesus came to die only for those that are already saved" ( he was Presbyterian) and the whole class erupted with "No".. He took it well but don't know if his mind was changed.
To me, It's like these Pastors are revealing what was already in their heart and I believe these stupid questions were asked to reveal that publicly. Now we're finding out who is who in my opinion.
I like that
The 🐑 sheeps clothing has been removed. And exposed the Wolf 🐺 he is.
Where do you clowns come from? If you didn't know macarthurs view on this, it's because you don't listen to him . Agree or disagree agree it's disingenuous to act as if he's been hiding his point of view. I'm not a calvinist but I knew where he stood, I disagree, but I don't think it's time for torches and clubs.
Who is stupid and what is not clear in the Bible?
Because John Macauthur is very doctrinally sound
Not sure what is your contention. Only those who believed him is saved so in short He paid the sin. You have choice whether to believe or not.
The Lamb of God that takes away the Sin of the World! The End! Well done! God bless you brother Caleb and your ministry!
But only if you accept Jesus Christ as Saviour and call out for salvation with your mouth.
Pastor John Macarthur explained well and clear.
Whoever God chooses to save or not to save...He has total sovereignty and authority..
He does indeed have the power and authority and that includes the power and authority to enable all people to receive or resist Him.
John MacArthur is only consistent with his modern Calvanistic view.
In other words, he's 100% consistent and 100% right.
@@c.a.g.3130 Being consistent doesn't make you right, Sorry!! 🥱 The Bible already refutes him. God is not a liar
Nonsense. MacArthur is right because Scripture is right. The DAMNED are not atoned for. God is not unjust.@@raphaelfeneje486
Totally agree
Caleb! Were you listening to Dr Macarthur?? He quotes several verses!!
Limited atonement, sometimes called particular redemption, is based on the doctrine of election or predestination (Romans 8:30, 33; Titus 1:1). Since only the elect of God will be saved, the reasoning goes, Jesus must have died only for them. Otherwise, Jesus’ death “failed” those who are not elect. If Jesus died for everyone, then hell will be full of people for whom Jesus died-was His atonement insufficient? If Jesus died only for the elect, then His atonement perfectly accomplished its goal. Every person for whom Jesus died will be in heaven.
Unlimited atonement, on the other hand, says that Jesus died for everyone but that only those who respond in faith will reap the benefits of His sacrifice. In other words, Jesus’ death was sufficient for all, but only effectual for some (those who have faith). If Jesus did not die for everyone, the reasoning goes, then the offer of salvation is empty, because the non-elect cannot be saved. The teaching of unlimited atonement is based on verses such as 1 John 2:2, “He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.”
Precise theological thinking is a good thing. We are called to be students of the Word (2 Timothy 2:15). But on this point, it seems that most people follow a theological system to get to their answer, rather than the clear Word of God. If it were not for theological systems (namely, Calvinism and Arminianism), the question of whom Jesus died for would probably never come up-but it has come up! One side says that, if Christ did not die for all, then there can be no genuine offer of salvation. The other side says that, if Christ died for some who will never be saved, then His death in some sense fails to accomplish its purpose. Either way, there seems to be an attack upon God’s character or Christ’s work-either God’s love is limited or Jesus’ power is limited. This presents an unnecessary dilemma and creates a tension where none need exist. We know that God’s love is infinite (Psalm 107:1) and that Christ’s power is infinite (Colossians 1:16-17). The dilemma is a false one of our own making.
In short, the offer of salvation is universal-to all who will believe (Romans 10:11, 13). We also know that, regardless of how broad Christ’s atonement is, it is limited in some respect-it is effective only for those who believe (John 3:18).
John 10 provides more insight into the issue of whom Jesus died for. In that passage we see that Christ died for His sheep (John 10:11, 15). Also, all who are His sheep will come to Him (verses 4 and 27), and they are kept secure in Christ (verses 28-30). However, when we share the gospel, we don’t try to “pre-screen” the hearers of the message. We don’t delve into who are the elect or for whom Jesus may or may not have died. Those discussions would distract from the goal of evangelism. When presenting the gospel, we simply say, “Jesus died for your sin, and He rose again from the dead. His death is sufficient to pay for your sins if you will put your faith in Him.” This is a biblically accurate statement, and it avoids trying to get too specific. The preaching of the apostles in the New Testament doesn’t try to cut it more finely than that.
Eventhough it says that God doesn't want anyone to parish
you misinterpret the video bro
I honestly could not figure out or fully understand what John M was saying. But what I do know is that he did not literally say “Jesus did not die for the whole world”. It seemed like he was explaining the depth of Jesus’s atonement and how it affects those who accept it. But like I said, his answer to the question was more in depth than my mind was able to fully process. 🤷♀️
Calvinists always crack me up. Always arguing about "election" etc. The problem is that Calvinism is trying to put an Omniscient, Omnipotent, and Omnipresent triune God (i.e. "The Holy Trinity") into their own human thinking. One only needs to look at Isaiah 55, specifically the following two verses: "8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. 9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts."
Arminians always crack me up. Always arguing about "free will/human ability" etc. The problem is that arminianism is trying to put an Omniscient, Omnipotent and Omnipresent triune God into their own human thinking......... this is one stupid argument.
@@japiepapenfus7260 thank you for proving my point.
@@andrewmarshall7569Exactly I think most true bible believing Christian’s would never identify as “Calvinist” or “Arminian” they just agree with what the Bible teaches. Yes God elects, yes all men everywhere are commanded to repent and believe.
AMEN BROTHER AND AMEN!❤️
@@japiepapenfus7260 WELL SAID
John MacArthur is a 100% right. Christ died for those who receive Him, not those who don't.
John 3:16 proves your comment wrong plus many other verses. There is so much wrong with Calvinism.
Christ died for everyone, not just the ones who accept him, John MacArthur is a false prophet who will end up in hell!
Some people have not come to the place where they believe, accept, and understand that God is sovereign. He creates the good AND the evil ~ for HIS purpose, for HIS glory.
They limit God to what their finite, fleshly, corrupt minds can understand; rather than prayerfully seeking to understand what God has clearly stated in His Word.
I see this a lot these days: if their little brains cannot understand something in the Scriptures, they CHANGE what God has said to fit THEIR ideas and THEIR understanding.
Yes I agree because people still end up going to hell… he died for the world but it will only apply for those that are born again…
@@TimothyBlevins1127 The New Testament’s redemptive narrative had everything to do with Israel and nothing to do with you, me or anyone else today.
Luke 1:16 “And he will turn many of the CHILDREN OF ISRAEL to the Lord their God.”
Luke 1:55 “As He spoke to our fathers, To Abraham and to his SEED FOREVER.”
Luke
1:68-69 “Blessed is the LORD GOD OF ISRAEL, For He has visited and REDEEMED HIS PEOPLE, 69 And has raised up a horn of SALVATION FOR US In the house of His servant David,”
Luke 1:77 “To give knowledge of SALVATION to HIS PEOPLE By the remission of THEIR SINS,”
Luke 2:34 “Then Simeon blessed them, and said to Mary His mother, “Behold, this Child is destined for the fall and rising of many in ISRAEL, and for a sign which will be spoken against.”
John 1:31 “I did not know Him; but that He should be REVEALED TO ISRAEL, therefore I came baptizing with water.”
Acts 5:31 “Him God has exalted to His right hand to be Prince and SAVIOR, to give REPENTANCE TO ISRAEL and FORGIVENESS OF SINS.
Acts 13:23 “From this man’s seed, according to the PROMISE, GOD raised up FOR ISRAEL A SAVIOR--Jesus-
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According to Paul, writing in the late 50s to mid 60s, the gospel had already gone out to the nations, all the earth, the whole world and to all creation (Rom 10:18, 16:26, Col 1:6, 23). This proves that New Testament terms like world, creation and nations were part of a limited Israelite context, one that doesn’t involve people today.
The gospel went out to the nations because that’s where the covenant world of descendants of the tribes of Israel (Abraham’s descendants) had
been dispersed to (Deut 4:27, 28; 30:1; Jer 30:11; Micah 5:7, 8 Dan 9:7, Acts 2:5, James 1:1, 1 Pet 1:1). The world the gospel was intended for was the covenant world, not our world. The covenant world has already been blessed.
All that was left was the end to come, which Jesus said would happen in their generation and which John said the would “soon take place”. The time (their generation) and people meant for the gospel (those under the law, Jews and gentile descendants of the tribes of Israel) came to an end, in AD70. We see all Israel gathered into Christ, saved, sealed, and redeemed in Rev 7. Not a single non-Israelite in view. The story ended in the first century. We weren’t part of the story.
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In John 3:16 and many other scriptures the Greek word "kosmos" (world) was not the entire planet. It was the covenant world of Israel. Kosmos simply means constitution, orderly arrangement or government. It refers to an ordered system. In early Greek literature, kosmos was used to refer to establishing cultures or building cities. So when John made statements like: "For God so loved the kosmos", "Look, the lamb who came to take away the sin of the kosmos" and "the kosmos was
passing away", he was not referring to the entire globe. He was speaking about Israel and its Old Covenant system, structure and culture.
Jesus answered him, “I have spoken openly to the world [kosmos]. I have always taught in synagogues and in the temple, where all Jews come together. I have said nothing in secret. (John 18:20)
Jesus defined what the kosmos represented in that verse. What was it?
“If the world [kosmos] hates you, know that it has hated me before it hated you. (John 15:18)
“But the word that is written in their Law must be fulfilled: ‘They hated me without a cause.’ (John 15:25)
Only Israelites had and were under the law. Who was the kosmos (world) that had the law and hated Jesus?
And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world [kosmos] . (1 Jn 2:2)
Sin was violation of the law. If only first century Jews had and were under the law, then who was the whole world that sinned?
John 3:16 is not about God loving the entire planet. According to Deut 7;6-7, God put his love only on Israel. God never changes... remember? And for what purpose did Israel’s god give his only begotten son? For redemption. Galatians 4:5 says redemption was for those under the law. That was Israelites, not us. Hebrews 9:15 says redemption was for those who sinned under the first covenant. Again, that’s not us. The world that Israel’s god so loved was the covenant world of Israel, not the entire planet.
Are you seeing it yet? We aren’t part of the bible story. We aren’t part of the world that Israel’s god loved. We aren’t part of the world that needed salvation and redemption
I think MacArthur nailed it pretty well
Nailed one? Are you so gullible and deceived?
Of course John 6:44 the perfect scripture like many more to back up his point , people offended by biblical words such as elect and predestined 😂 . Bunch of semi pelegians in this comment section
Yeah, and so did one Mr John Owen in his book the death of death in the death of Christ.
Try again grasshopper
Thank you, Brother Caleb, for another video with clear references found in scripture.
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”Jesus answered and said to them, “Stop grumbling among yourselves. No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day. It is written in the prophets, ‘And they shall all be taught by God.’ Everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to Me.“
John 6:43-45 LSB
”“But this is the covenant which I will cut with the house of Israel after those days,” declares Yahweh: “I will put My law within them, and on their heart I will write it; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. And they will not teach again, each man his neighbor and each man his brother, saying, ‘Know Yahweh,’ for they will all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them,” declares Yahweh, “for I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more.”“
Jeremiah 31:33-34 LSB
So you seriously think Jesus died for the Egyptians and Assyrians during the time of the Passover and the conquest of Israel?
Sorry, but you said John MacArthur didn't quote a single verse. Not true, I heard at least two. I think John did a good job of explaining the atonement using scripture and logic.
I like how MacArthur confuses everyone with his opinion before he says he's right.🤔
I am reading a book about John Wycliff who was one of the first reformers in the 14 century. It's written by Steven Lawson who believes in Calvinism. I've noticed in book that he saying John Wycliff held to the same belief as Calvin. Is that true?
John Calvin was a murderer. He burned people at the stake over religious differences.
So what part of TULIP does John Calvin affirm to?? Can you go deeper in another video of who John Calvin is and what he believed in??
“the devil and all the ungodly are reined in by God, so that they cannot conceive, plan or carry out any crime, unless God allows it, indeed commands it. They are not only in bondage to him, but are forced to serve him. It is the Lord’s prerogative to enable the enemy’s rage and to control it at will” -John Calvin
Calvin was a murderous tyrant heretic.
Calvinism is a perversion of the truth that turns God into a monster. Gnostic fatalistic determinism.
God so loved the world ........... John3:16
Amen!
KEEP READING
Read the next verse. Jesus came to save His people from our sins. Jesus came into the world to save the world. 'Might' in verse 17 doesn't mean, possibly/maybe, it's a sure thing. We know the whole world is not saved and will not be saved. The 'world' in John 3:16 is the same world that Jesus is the actual 'Savior' of and the same world that God was in Christ, reconciling unto Himself, not imputing our trespasses unto us. Jesus is the Savior of everyone He died to save, which is everyone the Father has given Him, and all that the Father has given to His Son, Jesus said, will come to Him.
Whosoever believe!!!!!!
@@jeffrachelburkhalter3783 What is even the point of this comment
I believe John MacArthur is correct. Potential atonement for ALL, but because not all, in fact most don’t, receive Jesus, actual atonement just for the few who have repented and put their trust in Jesus.
But John does not believe that - that is what Caleb said.
John does not believe in potential atonement for ALL. He does not believe Jesus died for ALL. He does not believe that some "repented and put their trust in Jesus."
He believes like Calvin that some sinners were chosen before they were born to be saved ("the elect") and some sinners were born for damnation (for no good reason).
John is a Calvinist, and Calvin said: "God arranges all things by His sovereign counsel, in such a way that individuals are born, who are doomed from the womb to certain death, and are to glorify Him by their destruction."
I am afraid that is not my God.
@@Onlyoneway. Amen.
@@Ancient-Paths 100%
It´s really sad that after reading some comments it is just a matter of calvinists against arminians and arminians against calvinists. Read your Bibles. One thing for sure is that God is sovereign and He saves whoever He wants to save. You can ask a person like me who is part of a family of 9 people and only two of us are saved. After 21 years, I´m still praying for the ones unsaved.
I think the belief of divine determinism is worse than the comments.
I’m not an Arminian. I’m reformed. But we are living in a strange era in Christianity where 5 Point Calvinists in America are claiming that they are reformed, when they are not teaching accurately what was taught in the 16th century reformation. Instead they are teaching a 17th century interpretation of it which comes from the Synod of Dort (1618-19), the Westminster Confession (1647) and rely heavily upon the influence of a book published by John Owen in 1648 called “The death of death in the death of Christ”.
This is the book that makes the claim that if Christ died for all then nobody should be in hell. A common claim which a majority of people influenced by James White, John MacArthur, John Piper all claim. Local pastors use these arguments, even if they are not Calvinists and the average believer takes them on board. Yet John Owen’s book was refuted and proven wrong by puritan John Horne in his book “The Open Door for Man’s Approach to God”. But John Owen refused to respond to it.
Calvinists such as J. I. Packer failed to mention these facts and even insult Richard Baxter who refuted this teaching.
Today the Owenists also promote Jonathan Edward’s revisionist interpretation of reformed theology.
The word sovereignty simply means royalty, monarch, or by Cambridge definition “the power or authority to rule” or a self governing country.
5 point Calvinists however have redefined this word to mean divine determiner, which basically makes everything that happens in life a theatrical production at their string of Calvinistic theatres.
I could say more, but even Calvin didn’t teach limited atonement like they do.