OSPHO Rust Converter, RUST Killer, DOES It WORK
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- čas přidán 13. 02. 2021
- How to remove rust. Ospho rust converter is what I am showing in this video. I had some places on the door of the 1990 Ford F350 that I thought might still have some rust and corrosion that I really couldnt get to very well, so Ospho rust killer to the rescue. I also show how the frame on my 1994 F150 has held up over the years with the use of Ospho.
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I clicked on this video not knowing someone would waste even one penny or one minute on a ford, I'm out! I don't waste my time.
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This is hilarious. This guy probably likes chevys, that are known to have a flimsy frame and terrible everything.
My dad always told me you could hear a Chevy rust on a quiet night
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Using this stuff on the frame for my dent side. So far it seems to be doing the job!
I've been using this for decades. I always come back 24 hours later, and either do another coat if it's bad or reactivate it with some more Ospho then wipe it with water and then air dry and DA it with 80 grit. Years ago I had to put a junkyard fender on a customer's old Ranchero. It was the only fender I could get, they didn't make them back then. It was bad surface rust from the car burning down then being scrapped. I completely stripped and Ospho'd the fender then went over it with 80 grit, then etching primer and painted the car. I was kind of worried about that fender though. I still see the Ranchero around to this day and the fender looks fine. That really sold me on that stuff. That was a nasty fender when I got it. I use it all the time but I do neutralize it with another coat of Ospho then immediately a water wipe down. I won't paint right onto Ospho residue.
Yes. So many don't do this and say this don't work. It does if you follow directions. Says oil based paint only. Wipe with mineral spirits. So if not using oil based reapply, let set for a few, wash off with scotchbrite and lots of water. Doing it for decades just fine. Ppl don't follow directions. Why we have a warning label on ass cream for idiots who try to eat it!!
Do the water wipe down after the second coat is BEFORE the ospho dries ???
@@MrBluoct 24 hours after the first coat, re apply. Then while it's still wet, totally wash it off with water to neutralize it. Dry it then sand it. I usually then spray with PPG DP 90
@@Digitalsharecropper ppg dp 90?
@@craigmerrill3331 Epoxy primer
always looking for new better rust converter will have to give this stuff a try
Years ago, I used a product called Naval Jelly. Got it from the auto parts store and every fall season before I managed to buy a topper for the truck bed, I would rough sand, paint the jelly on the inside of the truck bed, and then primer it to help keep the rust down.
Im 65, and when I was a kid ,my dad used naval jelly! Its ,I believe a phosphoric acid in a gel form.
Thanks, good video. You answered my question as to whether Rustoleum spray paint would hold up. I have an 86 E350 barn find I am restoring.
Exactly what I wanted to see. Loved the album! Thanks.
I'm not a FORD guy at all but I must say that is a good looking truck the color's fit it perfect
I just put some OSPHO by SKYCO and put some on my ATV rims tonight.---- 12-10-21! It's hard to get a dual action sander in those hard to reach places. I'll let you know how it went for me. Thank you for the video and showing that part you did in 2013-2014. Seems like its holding up.
Looks like my Dads truck. His is a 1995 F-150. Same color and wheels. Thank s for the video.
Used it for over 20 yrs & still like it.
Greetings from Northern Vermont! Been using Ospho for years and it does work great. Not to be off topic, but most of that rust could have been prevented with oil spray rustproofing. I have been oil spraying my vehicles since the 1990's up here in Vermont and my 1997 K1500 suburban still looks good with litter rust on the frame and body. There are many great oil petroleum based products on the market, but , ATF, Motor Oil, Bar & Chain oil etc all do fabulous job. Spray any of these oils INTO enclose box sections, rockers, doors, pinch welds ...all enclosed sheet metal areas. For the OUTER Frame and suspension sections that are exposed, heat bar and chain oil in an electric crock pot, add some WAX and apply it with a 3M Rocker Schutz type gun at 40 -80 PSI.. Best time to apply the oils is Spring , because the warmer weather expands the metal and allows the oil toe creep, wick and penetrate. It's most important to soak all the inner enclosed sheet metal areas with thin oils like ATF, Motor Oil, B&C oil etc.. Good Luck!!
Here's my Paps recipe, 1qrt of Any oil, trans fluid and 1 tune of grease and 1 or 2 wax toilet gaskets. Melt in a old pan and mix. I use old or used oils, fluids, hydraulic etc. So only pay 2 bucks for no name grease, and same for wax gasket. Lasts for years.
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@@jasonfrance4927 Any Schutz type gun or regular paint spray gun with air psi set between 40 - 80.
let me see... spray with oil once a year or with also once...
Hey Jon,
The F-150 frame looks like it about new. Stuff really seems to work great. It make one think, why doesn’t the auto manufacturers just make the frames rust resistant. We can do it but there doesn’t seem to be a necessity from them. Make the doors, tailgate, wheel wells all rust resistant. Years ago people said it would put the auto shops out of business. Didn’t really buy that. Now it’s all panel replacement. Oh well, really good job on that.
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Sounds kind of weird saying that. Not like Merry Christmas or something.
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Hello Bill. Nah he's paying to get my hair done. He's a great guy.
Thanks Bill! Awesome comment as usual!! 👍👍
I don't have that Goodwill in my head to talk that way after living a miserable life but I can cause to look like s*** I'm looking at stuff to people trying to sell garbage of the world and it's terrible this of the world I can't think that way
you had old land rovers made of allumium they never rust.
Things are made not to last. Now its even thinner gauge metals (rust thru quicker), plastic shit everywhere. They can easily make things with long lasting materials but they wont sell nearly as many cars every10 years! Just like Nickolai Tesla, in the early 1900s discovered free energy taken from the air! His friend at the time ran his own farm from it! Now do you know why they hide shit from us. We wouldnt rely on oil, coal mining, nuclear power plants,etc!! I suggest everyone look up and watch, "The Lost Century and How to Reclaim It!" Is a documentary by Steven Greer
Welding up a cab corner, used some rust mort today, sounds like ill use rustolium then on the inside, what ive been trying to find out, so many different opinions on it, has a little surface rust i wanted to treat inside. Adding an access hole so i can wax it or oil it through the rocker after also, its a 14 150. Rest is rock solid, brake light or slider must of leaked.
Thank you! Great review!
We in The Great Industrial Northeast are supposed to get 6"-10" Monday/Tuesday 2/15 & 2/16. That's fine, it only took three days for 27" of snow to melt back in December 2020.
Yuck!
That needle scaler from HF is one of the few good air tools they sell. I just had a HF air drill break at the trigger casting, very little use, can't be fixed.
Their impact sockets are good... I know not an air tool in itself, but I have yet to break one.
@@TheFoxShop those bubbles on your door are easy too get rid of with a light too medium sanding and then another coat of Ospro! Another product I highly recommend is Rust Cutter it's a bit thicker than Ospro but sticks nicely! With that being said both Ospro and Rust Cutter are the 👑 kings 👑 in my opinion!
If you get Ospho on your concrete, it will etch it, so make sure to dilute any spills or neutralize with baking soda.
It definitely will. It won't just etch it, it will eat off the topping and leave craters ! Kill it IMMEDIATELY WITH water and if you have the Baking Soda that is a great idea.
What I'm facing is after applying Ospho, it was rained on shortly thereafter and all of it turned to a chalky white powder. It is in places I can't possibly scrape or wire brush away, so I am just applying another coat over the powder and have the piece of the tractor (battery box) under a canopy. Anybody have any ideas on treating it better please let me know.
It will eat right through a concrete floor if it isn't neutralized.
@Digitalsharecropper I never remotely had that issue. But my concrete floor was hand mixed and poured from way back in the day. Maybe different than what you get these days.... I dunno.
FYI: I've used Ospho and rust eater for years. ALWAYS degrease the surfaces before treating with it. The oil from your hands/skin can neutralize the product. If you spray it on a oily surface, it will bubble up like hydrogen peroxide. The only gripe I have is the clean-up before priming.
blow off all dust and apply Ospho. Let dry 24 hours. If the metal is a galvanized trailer, just wire brush off the Ospho residue and hit it with Cold Galvanize spray paint as your primer. If standard metal, you must neutralize the Ospho
39 years Auto Body... Plug your drain holes in the bottom of your doors (tape or rag)and spray or brush (depending on product) the inside of the Doors fenders etc.... Doing a old show car Restore stand your doors on All 4 sides so it soaks into the inside lip...
How do you use it if you have to put body filler on the spot do you put it on with out sanding it are do you sand it off then put filler
@@paulwelch5570 if you can sand it SAND IT... if its inside where you can't get at it do your best :) Note your only going to slow the rust down... Someday it will need cut out or replaced :)
truck looks great
Thanks for the real world review of Ospho and how to use it. Have you used it on very small rock chips?
Thanks for the video. I never heard of it. Let me make sure I understood, can you wipe and then apply body filler directly over that and then prime and paint?
It acts like a etch primer so if its clean after you spray it, it can be painted directly over but body filler needs scratches underneath
Should you sand it down again after spraying it or is it ok to just spray primer over it without sanding ?
You should use mineral spirits and a clean rag to wipe off the white powdery stuff, primer and paint. Although I have painted directly over the Ospho with good results.
Can I use this under body filler if I sand and clean?
How did I not know something like this exists?
Just got this truck that desperetly needs rust tretment.woild you recomend spraying it on all the parts,like break lines and things like that?
Well, seems a lot of opinions on social media 😂... But I did. Sprayed everything!! No problems yet. Been what... 6-7 years now?
Looks like that stuff works pretty good Jon! 🙂👍
I need to apply body filler, is that ok to use over it? Do I sand with 80 grit?
I do not have the answer to that... I wouldn't. And if going to sand it down clean to bare metal, there is no point I don't think
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Zep® Acidic Toilet Bowl Cleaner - 128 oz. $11.98 at Menard's. Works in 30 minutes for most parts, over night for very heavy rust.
Does Klean Strip Concrete & Metal Prep leave behind some latex or acrylic coating? Is there a rust converter that only uses acid? Seems like some latex coating will negate the ability to use a primer. Ultimately, you're limited to the adhesion of that latex or acrylic.
Use oil based paint right over it
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The manufacturer Kleen-Strip claims it doesn't have any latex-like material . Some other conversion primers do have a latex-like material, and the one I used looked like milk. Different than the greenish translucent liquid of the Kleen-strip brand. Conceening the Kleen-Strip, after painting on the converter and waiting overnight, I use a scuff pad to wash off any residue. This ensures only well-bonded phosphate is left. Then let that dry and oil-based enamel over that ( or oil-based primer ). Works very well and never peels....been 20 years and it's perfect.
Great stuff! Thanks for the tip.
My rocker panels are rusted out will this stuff work for just killing rust?
My opinion, yes, but sure others will disagree lol
ok so the next step??? after wiping it off and letting it dry , do you rinse with water??? or just directly start painting once its dry??
I painted right over the top of it... But seems to depend who you ask according to comments
It says if using oil based ok if not you rewet with ospho, let set 3 min, wash off with water and scotch Brite. If not it'll not adhere.
Ospho direction doesn't mean it works for all paints. Ospho converts rust to Iron phosphate. But your paint may not like that acidic environment. For example painting epoxy primer over ospho means you are screwed big time. always the best case is to neutralize Ospho. Meaning once dryed, apply ospho again wait a few mins and rinse it with water and immediately dry it.
@@borna430 That's what I do except for the scrubbing with scuff pad, not for sanding or whatever but more for complete acid removal. Cause ein the car game that's the first step, spraying epoxy to seal, do body work, sealer can't with epoxy, coat with urethane primer then base and clear. But that's on a 40k restoration. I just do epoxy then base coat. I watched a video of a test of ospho and the tester said it didn't work well and then that's where this got started for me. I tried to tell him that using on a diff on a truck is a ok test if it was cleaned and prepped right. I've used it for years and if it's a clean dirt, oil, silicone etc free surface and not get rid of all the rust, cause that's the point is to convert it not sand it all off, it works just about the best I've seen in 20 years. Some of the evapo rust is good for small parts and time to soak but for a frame etc hard to do that. There's way to thicken up the ospho and make it stick. That's my only complaint. Like naval jelly buy way stronger concentration of phosphoric acid. I've never tried tannic acid but seems to work well from videos. Hard to tell cause we don't see the entire process, just what the content creator wants to show. Thank you for your time. Have a great week.
Did you take apart those leaf springs? Or how did you get the rust of them?
On my green truck?
@@TheFoxShop I think your white and blue one there. You were showing some pics and one of them showed your leaf springs all rusty.
Some say it's blue... But it's green lol.. my daughter and I have argued about this lol.. my f150 I fixed up?
@@TheFoxShop You sprayed osopho on them? Or did you take them apart? grind them down and put them back together?
I put new leaf springs on the back. 3/4T leaf springs...
Well this did it…I’m in 😊
I know it's phosphoric acid so do you need to neutralize it or just a washing is sufficient
Washing is fine just need to rinse off residue
@@zubirhusein what if you don't rinse of OSPHO?
I know I didn't and have had no adverse effects.
@@Asian_Connection my spi epoxy says to clean the ospho off first. It depends on the primer or sealer your using.
I would spray or paint some on the inside of the door inside the bottom.
awesome
That seems like a very similar product to SEM rust mort. I have had good success with the rust mort. Really don't want to get that stuff on you, it burns badly lol.
Could be..possibly the same main ingredient 👌
I didn't have any luck with ospho , Rust came back a few months after even though I painted the areas with 2 k epoxy
Used to have same problem with epoxy primer. The dried Ospho film prevents adhesion. Solution: Apply Ospho and let it react and dry. Then, apply another coat of ospho and rinse it off while it's still wet...a little scrubbing helps. This is the method Southern Polyurethanes recommends, and it works.
Gotta read the label. Says Oil based paint, wipe with mineral spirits, epoxy gotta rewet, let set 3 min, wash and scotchbrite, then non oil based paint. Why they don't give instructions using other than oil based IDK. On SPI forum The chemist says how to use and why they stopped telling ppl cause they won't follow directions and blame the primer or paint.
OK so where are you located? And can I bring my expedition to you for help?!!! I bought it from a private seller who turned out to be sheisty!! Had I taken a mech. w/ me, I wouldn't have bought it!
thanks
Welcome
Hey I don’t think you apply paint right after I think you need to neutralize it prior to painting.
What primer did you use over top of the Ospho? I'm working on some doors and a deck lid with some rust pits on them just like yours and I really don't want to blast but I've read Ospho can cause adhesion issues with primers.
I just really used it on the frame of my truck..used rustoluem rusty metal primer.. Several coats, then rustoluem black paint.. still looks great!! But for body panels.. Not sure to be honest. Never done that.
Dp 90 is one of the best primer if you are looking for quality of being rust resistant but it's really expensive
I think it has thermal requirements for chemical reaction to happen
do you use this full strength?
Yep!
I miss my 94 f150 wish I didn't sell it! My daughter loved going for drives In it with me!
Ironically I searched for a video about rust repair for my 90 f150 with blue and white two tone 🤣
So this product encapsulates the rust ?
No it converts the rust to an inert surface that can be painted
I was able to purchase Ospho at Ace Hardware.
What up old buddy
I watched the whole video while my wife and son were bothering me. I see so many different opinions I just need one. I have a 89 bronco I’m trying to make last as long as possible. After you apply ospho do you wash it off after? So you just paint straight on it, do you wipe it with something? Everyone says different things, that’s the problem with the internet. I just need 1 person to tell me what they think is right.
Rust converter doesn’t stop future rust, unless you can coat / paint to keep air and water off the metal.
does it inhibit or dissolve???
Neither. It converts the iron-oxide to iron-phosphate, which is one heck-of-a primer. Imagine a primer that doesn't just coat (like regular primer) but a primer that bonds on a molecular level. I made a mistake once on a trailer while painting and thought I'd just sandblast it off. BIG MISTAKE. I thought I'd NEVER get it all off!
Hi Jon, when you sprayed it on your frame, did you wipe off the white powder with mineral spirits like the bottle says to? If not, what did you do? Thanks!
Does the bottle say that? 😯... I sprayed my frame every evening for a week... Let it dry and painted with several coats of rustoluem rusty metal primer... And then several coats of rustoluem gloss black. Worked for me. 👍
@@TheFoxShop Yea it says it on the bottle and website, I just didn’t know if you experienced that white powder, and if you did anything about it? I plan on using the same rustoleum you used. Thanks!
Just read the bottle I have... Just says let dry and paint. I dunno..that's what I did lol
I actually just checked the bottle, it says to wipe down with a solvent based cleaner, the website says mineral spirits. But if you didn’t and had good results, I won’t worry about it
My bottle may be old, maybe they changed the directions? Couldn't hurt to wipe it down, but I had no issues
I find using a grinder and some sandpaper to get rid of rust is much better to me its faster and i can get the painting done that day.
Yes but you can't get into the microscopic pits and it will rust again unless you grind down all the metal too. Use right way and save all that work and time.
You can't get inside A B and C pillars either. I hate to replace a quarter panel because of surface rust inside a solid piece.
Prep and etch Home depot
Phosphoric Acid 💣
klean strip concrete and metal prep and etch , should be the same exact thing if u check sheet and its only 17.97 $ at home depot
May have to try that 👍
@@TheFoxShop Try a comparison test, I got it while waiting for my Ospho to arrive, they seem very similar but the Kleen Strip concrete and metal prep is much cheaper and right there
No it's not the exact same thing the Ospho is a much better product. But the kleen strip works too as long as you don't have too much rust. I'm sure we all know what the best one is....it's Corroseal
Where you been buddy. I have full blown upgrades going on. Miss you.
In hoping this product saves my frame.
Buy the Kleen Strip brand version at a fraction of the price...
If you have to ues body filler how would you.
To be honest I don't know 😂... Would have to do a little research... and I don't want to give bad advise... if rusted....like s body panel... cut out and replace would be my suggestion.
Looks like it eats the rust off to shiny metal.
I buy the concrete and metal prep from home depot. Gallon for 15 bucks it's the same stuff.
What's it called
@@BraddaMarlon klean strip concrete &metal prep.
I got some toilet bowl cleaner that says it has phosphoric acid and citric acid and I'm using in on a bbq restoration I'm doing but I just got it so we'll see
Can you get Ospho at Homer Depot and Blowes or do you have to go to an automotive parts store?
Haven't seen it there... I've always got it off Amazon. I think Sherman Williams paint stores may carry it if I remember correctly.. but I've always got it off Amazon
Ace Hardware
Kleen Strip Concrete & Metal Prep I got at Blowes, Homer Depot has it too - 18 bucks a gallon, I believe it's the same as Ospho, costs way less and it's right there, you don't have to have it delivered.
this is the kinda thing that got people burned at the stake back in the day
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After applying in a badly scaling battery box on a tractor, I was not able to cover it up and it was rained on several times. Came back a couple weeks later to find awful white powder build up instead of black hardened coating ready to be painted.
May be a mistake but today 12-2-22 I have reapplied another coating of OSPHO right over the power. This time the tractor is under a covered shed. It will be damp during rains but will not likely get the waterfall itself. So, we'll see what happens. I hate rust and it has to go. I hate this white chalky powder just as bad. Somebody did not take care of preventive maintenance on this tractor and I have to try to save it. Anybody with corrective action idea or experienced this white powder transformation and fixed it please chime in. Thanks !
You need to prime and paint over the converted rust, or it will come back.
Would you use this again, or Rust Kutter? I have to do the roof of my jeep and not sure what to buy.
I would use it again.. never used Rust Kutter or even heard of it lol.. so I can't compare.
Just remember if you do not neutralize it it will haunt you for ever in your top coats.
Neutralize how? I'm considering using it (Ospho) myself.
@@CinHalCedHerChance When your ready to work the metal again 80 grit the whole surface then acetone it all/ continue with Tamco 5300 series DTM primers and products solvents. Call them they are great.
if it is phosphoric acid no need to neutralize
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I hate Ospho! Used it on fence posts..everywhere I used it, the black oil based paint began disintegrating in a few months. Posts without Ospho still Look great after many years. And, yes I followed the directions. I will never ruin any metal item with that junk again, and I do paint a lot of metal ! It’s too expensive to not work as expected
Hmm.. frame on my truck still looks brand new after using it. Wonder what happened.
Spooler Alert "RUST Killer, DOES It WORK" 0:19 Seconds into the video he says "I need to get more". There could be a cleaver plot twist coming....!!?
It turns white, I painted it on my trailer tongue and the next day it turned white not black
Never had it turn white... always black.. dunno what would cause that
That's funny I never had it turn black always white the next day
@@johnpower8356 that's because blacks don't return the next day for work lmao!
best way to use ospho is to spray its on and use steel wool with it works alot better that way.thanks
- nick
It’s two pm,112 in West Texas and getting hotter today
07.18-2023
Keep that much heat down there will ya?? 😂.
need to wash it off or epoxy primer wont stick
Get to the f%$^^ point dude..dam!
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It says on the bottle not to mist it. You're supposed to use a brush I believe
My goodness, you are long winded.... How about gettin to the point ??
I could care less about the weather, get on with it
Lmao I thought that too, but big ups to the creater anyway, I'm here to make use I've been using this right all the years I've known about it.
Hay this Ospho rust converter looks just like Rust-oleum Rust Dissolver. I bet its the same thing. I can confirm Rust-oleum eats rust all the way. I have a 95 ford Explorer.
The stuff I have was made in Vernon Hills, IL can you do a test?
It's not the same thing it's just the same GREEN color with that being said they both have their pros and cons.... I highly recommend using long sleeves, chemical gloves resistant too ACID as well as a respirator and safety goggles when you are applying OSPHO rust converter. It's a excellent preparation chemical in my opinion for many of your metal prepping projects!
Just be well ventilated... It can kinda burn ya... but I never had an issue.
Best results ? Use cider vinegar!! Much better.
Doubt it, but to each their own 😆
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@@neftalirosado6167 😂 who knows lol
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Terrible video on how too…. Looks at the product doesn’t do anything but turn it black
Umm..that's what it does lol.. sorry you hated the video. Didn't have to watch it. Used Ospho a lot... Great results. Have a great day lol
Black seals out Oxygen and water, what causes rust. Please don't eat the preparation H. It's for your ass, not brushing your teeth.
Black..well isnt that better than rust? I guess youll have to wait until they make ospho 2..that chromes the metal.
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Some good info on rust and metal prep... I'm nearly 80 building three Chevy's and a road race 65 Mustang; Can't understand all the Ford/Chevy animosity, I've had hot rods from both, great engines, cars and trucks in the early years, don't care much for today's boring cars and you can keep the blazing EV's. Best get together because the liberals are trying with every evil move they can come up with to destroy what ya'all hold dear.
Is this about you being the weatherman or teaching us how to get rid of rust?
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