$14.99 for that little bottle of PRE? That was 8 years ago. It must be like $25 by now in 2020. I do the same cleaning with acetone on a spray bottle then wipe it off with new cotton rags or the blue roll paper shop towels. To etch my metals & light rust removing, I buy Concrete & Metal Prep from Home Depot on the paint department. It comes in a slightly transparent plastic bottle & you can see that the liquid inside in green. Right now it sells online for $17.97. Hope this helps some people.
thankx rob,i do like what it looks like when its done,whether its good or bad,time will tell,especialy on the nova,it will be around for a long time,lol,thankx for watching,tc
Des, Rick is doing a restomod on a 1974 chev nova. He is redoing a 4 dr nova into a 2 dr nova and is replacing a lot of rusted metal and working his way through each pc and panel, doing an excellent job of rebuilding the car. Rick is a very accomplished metal worker and is doing a lot of the same things that you will need to do to restore your 57 Fairlane, so you might want to go back and watch his old videos and see how he goes about fixing the problems that his car has, would be worth it.
Cool stuff Rick. I used metal etch and prep from Ace Hardware stores. It doesn't really smell but if you get a whiff after it starts working, I notice the acid smell. I had some naval jelly, which does almost the same thing as the liquid. Our friend Pete did a video a while back where he showed how to pre bare metal using vinegar and water to stop the rust. It turned the rusty pits black too, so I suspect the same thing is happening where the acid in the vinegar is eating at the rust.
thankx,i have tried the vinager also but got this to try,but will go back to the vinager once this is gone,lol,the cost makes good sence,thankx for watching,tc
thankx john,this stuff smells quite acidic too once it starts working and once this bottle is gone ill probably use the vinagar too,alot cheaper,lol,thankx for watching,tc
thankx man,thats very interesting too,im still confused whether i should be using etch primer or epoxy,im hearing alot about etch primer so i think i will get some and try it,thankx for watching,tc
yes i wish i could find the oure phosphuric but its nowheres here,not even in the home depo,somebody probably has it but havent found who yet but still looking,it is pricey but seems to go along ways,thankx for watching,tc
i wasnt sure if this was an aftermarket hood or not ,bought an old car for parts and the hood was in such good shape for the age of the car that was what i was thinking so just to be on the safe side i treated it that way,thankx for watching,tc
Last time I used acid etch was on aircrafts. The acid etch we used was by Dupont, and doesn't look any different than what you've got there. We applied it with gray scotch brite pads, scrubbing the aluminium. The FFA has all kinds of rules on refinishing aircrafts, acid etch after stripping was a requirement, followed by self etching primer, they didn't allow epoxy. I think that says something about etch primer vs epoxy primer on bare metal..... Good vid!! Later man.....
You said something about E-coating was the hood an aftermarket one ???? .. I've had brand New after market hoods on chevy pic-ups start rusting within the first two yrs Maybe next time I'll do exactly what you did to keep that down to a minimum . Thanks for the Great Vid eo .. good luck ...
the only place here in canada that i can get cheap aftermarket parts is through a company called cross canada parts,i dont know in the states,r u looking new or used,might beable to locate a good used one but i dont know about the shipping,i subbed u and i am very xcited to see u got a 1978 nova too,will be watching,i think u got a better car than i do,mine is in several parts,like a puzzle,lol,thankx for watching,tc
TheRickfix It has been some time now and assume it's been painted and finished. How is it holding up? Also, I was curious was you used to "Neutralize" it with and was sanding or scuffing with a brown nylon scuff pad used. I am doing the same thing and wish to learn how it stands the test of time, as my elbows and back gets worse. I plan on leaving the vehicle to family and don't want to be cussed at years latter. Retired ASE Master...Thanks, You have my like!
I'm looking for a good used one I guess I will have to keep my eye out but yes I consider myself lucky on my nova but yours will be nice when u get done
i dont think u have to sand but im only concerned about the rust pits so to make sure i give it a quick sanding with 180 before the epoxy primer,someday im going to try not sanding on a test panel to see if it is ok,thankx for watching,tc
After waiting a whole weekend' to contact your company I was totally disgusted you have people working there that don't even know what the hell they're talking about I suppose a ill informed and bad employee can destroy your business
$14.99 for that little bottle of PRE? That was 8 years ago. It must be like $25 by now in 2020. I do the same cleaning with acetone on a spray bottle then wipe it off with new cotton rags or the blue roll paper shop towels. To etch my metals & light rust removing, I buy Concrete & Metal Prep from Home Depot on the paint department. It comes in a slightly transparent plastic bottle & you can see that the liquid inside in green. Right now it sells online for $17.97. Hope this helps some people.
correct
Are you supposed to sand the coating off or should you prim over it.
thankx cecil,i gotta say i got lucky on this hood,its the best ive ever worked on,thankx for watching,tc
good video guy..
thankx rob,i do like what it looks like when its done,whether its good or bad,time will tell,especialy on the nova,it will be around for a long time,lol,thankx for watching,tc
Des, Rick is doing a restomod on a 1974 chev nova. He is redoing a 4 dr nova into a 2 dr nova and is replacing a lot of rusted metal and working his way through each pc and panel, doing an excellent job of rebuilding the car. Rick is a very accomplished metal worker and is doing a lot of the same things that you will need to do to restore your 57 Fairlane, so you might want to go back and watch his old videos and see how he goes about fixing the problems that his car has, would be worth it.
thankx and thankx for watching,tc
Cool stuff Rick. I used metal etch and prep from Ace Hardware stores. It doesn't really smell but if you get a whiff after it starts working, I notice the acid smell. I had some naval jelly, which does almost the same thing as the liquid. Our friend Pete did a video a while back where he showed how to pre bare metal using vinegar and water to stop the rust. It turned the rusty pits black too, so I suspect the same thing is happening where the acid in the vinegar is eating at the rust.
thankx,i wish the whole nova was in the same shape as these parts,lol,thankx for watching,tc
thankx john,its looking good slowly,lol,thankx for watching,tc
thankx mark,it does put a coating on the metal,so im thinking that must be good,thankx for watching,tc
thankx for watching greg,tc
thankx tinker,i can hardly wait too,seems to take forever to get things ready for the fun stuff,lol,thankx for watching,tc
thankx,i have tried the vinager also but got this to try,but will go back to the vinager once this is gone,lol,the cost makes good sence,thankx for watching,tc
thankx tom and thankx for watching,have a good one my friend
I, im not too sure what your restoring so can you tell me.
thankx john,this stuff smells quite acidic too once it starts working and once this bottle is gone ill probably use the vinagar too,alot cheaper,lol,thankx for watching,tc
Thanks, im sure its worth it. I need to start quick, and do it right.
im restoring a 1978 nova with alot of 1975 nova parts,kind of a basket case,lol,thankx for watching,tc
thankx,lol,in another 3 weeks time she will get lots of attention again,thankx for watching,tc
thankx for watching,tc
looking good, cant wait to see how the cf look comes out....tinker
thankx olddude,thanx for watching,tc
thankx man,thats very interesting too,im still confused whether i should be using etch primer or epoxy,im hearing alot about etch primer so i think i will get some and try it,thankx for watching,tc
Great product review Rick.
The hood is looking great so far.
You should try vinager water does exactly same job and costs next to nothing !!
That stuff seems to work pretty good in cleaning the metal! Good stuff buddy
How do you nutralize it
break time , watchin vids, catching up, theres a lot of them,yours are always steady forward progress, hope your healing up again there
Are you suppose to sand after you use the acid etch?
yes i wish i could find the oure phosphuric but its nowheres here,not even in the home depo,somebody probably has it but havent found who yet but still looking,it is pricey but seems to go along ways,thankx for watching,tc
i wasnt sure if this was an aftermarket hood or not ,bought an old car for parts and the hood was in such good shape for the age of the car that was what i was thinking so just to be on the safe side i treated it that way,thankx for watching,tc
I love using the Phosphoric Prep & Etch by Klean Strip that you showed in your video, that stuff is great.
Last time I used acid etch was on aircrafts. The acid etch we used was by Dupont, and doesn't look any different than what you've got there. We applied it with gray scotch brite pads, scrubbing the aluminium. The FFA has all kinds of rules on refinishing aircrafts, acid etch after stripping was a requirement, followed by self etching primer, they didn't allow epoxy. I think that says something about etch primer vs epoxy primer on bare metal..... Good vid!! Later man.....
stuff looks like it works great thanks for the vid rick take care bud
Thanks for the info
Great video Rick, that hood is in great shape buddie, thanks for the video..later
Interesting stuff.
schuuuprint
You said something about E-coating was the hood an aftermarket one ???? .. I've had brand New after market hoods on chevy pic-ups start rusting within the first two yrs Maybe next time I'll do exactly what you did to keep that down to a minimum . Thanks for the Great Vid eo .. good luck ...
Good Stuff Rick!
the only place here in canada that i can get cheap aftermarket parts is through a company called cross canada parts,i dont know in the states,r u looking new or used,might beable to locate a good used one but i dont know about the shipping,i subbed u and i am very xcited to see u got a 1978 nova too,will be watching,i think u got a better car than i do,mine is in several parts,like a puzzle,lol,thankx for watching,tc
TheRickfix It has been some time now and assume it's been painted and finished. How is it holding up? Also, I was curious was you used to "Neutralize" it with and was sanding or scuffing with a brown nylon scuff pad used. I am doing the same thing and wish to learn how it stands the test of time, as my elbows and back gets worse. I plan on leaving the vehicle to family and don't want to be cussed at years latter. Retired ASE Master...Thanks, You have my like!
Hey Rick I was wondering if u knew of a cheap place to get a 75-78 nova deck lid
Good stuff rick ! Been catching up on your vids :)
Interesting video Rick, keep up the great work and videoi's. OLDDUDE
I'm looking for a good used one I guess I will have to keep my eye out but yes I consider myself lucky on my nova but yours will be nice when u get done
always wanted to see the metal being layed down
i dont think u have to sand but im only concerned about the rust pits so to make sure i give it a quick sanding with 180 before the epoxy primer,someday im going to try not sanding on a test panel to see if it is ok,thankx for watching,tc
Yah. Well if the parts fit, i guess your good.
After waiting a whole weekend' to contact your company I was totally disgusted you have people working there that don't even know what the hell they're talking about I suppose a ill informed and bad employee can destroy your business
thankx and thankx for watching,tc
thankx for watching,tc