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  • You may not have noticed in episode 8 of House of the dragon because you too were sobbing uncontrollably over the death of viserys, but something very odd happened in the king’s chambers. And no I don’t mean the rat in his valyrian sculpture. #threeeyedrat. After Viserys accidentally spills the beans on the song of ice and fire to Alicent, she leaves the room while Viserys gasps his last breaths and the camera pans over to the valyrian steel dagger. The camera lingers on it for quite a long time, and out of nowhere comes this high pitched sound effect. Musical and magical, the steel singing. Why is that dagger singing? And can Viserys hear it?
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    00:00 The Death of a King
    00:35 Alicent's Whoopsie
    01:52 The Dagger sings
    03:41 Last Charge of Viserys
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  • @kevenrdavenport108
    @kevenrdavenport108 Před rokem +161

    "A dying man reaching for his beloved Emma as a blade from old Valyria sings him to sleep." You move me man, very nice.

  • @QuinnTheGM
    @QuinnTheGM Před rokem +90

    Funny that Aegon's Prophecy, the Song of Ice and Fire, is hidden within the dagger that starts the main plot of the A Song of Ice and Fire series. Maybe Littlefinger is the Prince who was Promised.

    • @tylercruse2402
      @tylercruse2402 Před rokem +18

      In the sense, that Anakin is the chosen one. Meant to bring balance to the Force. Littlefinger is meant to bring chaos to the Realm!

    • @alicecaraballo3910
      @alicecaraballo3910 Před rokem +10

      I'd love to know the story of the dagger's passing to so many hands, from Aegon, to Viserys, and eventually to Arya ..

    • @timetravelingnecromancer1051
      @timetravelingnecromancer1051 Před rokem +2

      @@tylercruse2402 I mean Anakin DID Balance the force. He destroyed the jedi. Then he destroyed the Sith. Balance.

    • @hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195
      @hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195 Před rokem

      hahahaha nice

  • @joshcoughx
    @joshcoughx Před rokem +41

    I think the sound was Viserys soul entering the blade upon his death.

    • @jonhauge-evaldsson783
      @jonhauge-evaldsson783 Před rokem +4

      Yes! And Vaemond before him! And Emma! And who else?

    • @BillyBasd
      @BillyBasd Před rokem +3

      @@jonhauge-evaldsson783 Aenar. Aegon I. Aenys. Possibly Aegon II the uncrowded slain by Maegor. Maegor. Jaeheris. And more. All those kings and princes would have worn this dagger and/or died near it

  • @Feign_Way
    @Feign_Way Před rokem +78

    This channel is rapidly becoming my favorite for HOTD

    • @cbob213
      @cbob213 Před rokem +5

      Oh, he’s one of the best CZcams ASOIAF, GoT, HotD (insert GRRM’ism) channels around. If you are entering the fandom via HotD then welcome. You should have a look around at his other videos related to ASOIAF and check out the books if you haven’t already. 😉

    • @sting3795
      @sting3795 Před rokem +4

      happily agree. spent hours soaking up joes analysis since I found channel. TY Joe!!

  • @GrimFaceHunter
    @GrimFaceHunter Před rokem +5

    Gendry can make the steel sing. Maybe he discovers time travel?

  • @keirangrant1607
    @keirangrant1607 Před rokem +90

    Paddy turned Viserys from a forgettable king, into a good king. He kept his realm from war and tried his best to get everyone to work together. Thats not such a bad thing

    • @theelectricprince8231
      @theelectricprince8231 Před rokem +15

      Good character, TERRIBLE KING AND FATHER.

    • @keirangrant1607
      @keirangrant1607 Před rokem +2

      @@theelectricprince8231 I still think it's a good quality to avoiding war, but you do have a point.
      I think he was a father of the times, the mindset that kids are raised by moms. Alicent did a lot of the poisoning of the kids by setting them against their 1/2 sister and kids.
      But Vis could have done more

    • @theelectricprince8231
      @theelectricprince8231 Před rokem +8

      @@keirangrant1607 Aemonds hate stemmed from the fact that Lucerys mutilated him and Viserys did nothing about it to give the boy justice.
      Father's in ASOIAF also raised their children still.

    • @keirangrant1607
      @keirangrant1607 Před rokem +3

      @@theelectricprince8231 Thank you for the comment. Aemond attacked them and called them bastards, which is treason. Should Vis have cut off the hand of the heir to the throne because he fought his uncle?
      Royalty didnt really do parenting duties, in that world or ours. The only "good" dad I can think of is Ned, and he let Kat abuse Jon

    • @theelectricprince8231
      @theelectricprince8231 Před rokem +4

      @@keirangrant1607 nonsense. The 4 of them ganged up on Aemond (whom Luc and Jace used to bully btw). Aemond (a child) should not lose his eye for stating the truth. Lucerys will get what's coming to him.
      And I did not say vengeance, I said Justice. What Aemond does to Luce is vengance and could have happened.

  • @jfparhamutube
    @jfparhamutube Před rokem +6

    When he died, Rhaenyra became queen. The dagger had to tasted her blood, which became at that moment queen’s blood. There is power in king/queen’s blood.

  • @simpvanas
    @simpvanas Před rokem +17

    It is indeed the sound of the valyrian steel and not a sound effect added for only the audience to hear. The blades make this sound when in motion, or when wind whistles off them. Jon's sword makes the sound in battle vs the white walker at Hardhome. Again this same dagger makes the sound when Arya drops it before catching it with her opposite hand to stab the Night King. We can hear wind breezing in the King's chambers and Alicent's footfalls as she walks away from Viserys and I think it was just the blade reverberating or vibrating as a result.

    • @simpvanas
      @simpvanas Před rokem +5

      Another thought, the shot of the dagger is between Viserys and Alicent as she walks away from him. I would say this symbolizes the divide between Alicent and her children and Viserys' wishes for Rhaenyra to be Queen. This moment, this misunderstanding, has just cut the realm in two and what better way to signify that than show the dagger.
      The use of motifs in music and film are interesting. I think the sound just implies that a different sort of darkness is about to fall upon Westeros. Not the white walkers, not yet at least, but war. This misunderstanding between Alicent and Viserys' dying words is in itself another motif in ASOIAF. Robert's Rebellion was started because of a misunderstanding of the truth, as is the encroaching civil war of the Dance of the Dragons.

  • @Divine_Chareka
    @Divine_Chareka Před rokem +23

    That sound was much more like the one that we heard over & over in the early GoT seasons whenever the white walkers are being talked about or are actually in the scene.

    • @jona.scholt4362
      @jona.scholt4362 Před rokem +4

      I thought the same thing when I watched it and assumed that was their intention but who knows

    • @Ash.Crow.Goddess
      @Ash.Crow.Goddess Před rokem +5

      Yes! Dan from Talking Thrones made a whole ass video about the white Walker theme music in GoT, and that video is so worth the watch. It compliments this one nicely.

    • @amandadobbs8609
      @amandadobbs8609 Před rokem +3

      @@Ash.Crow.Goddess If you can't give a link (which would be preferred), can you remember what the title of that video is? Searching the channel, I haven't anything specific to that topic, although I might have gotten frustrated at the volume of returns and scrolled past it. (Wouldn't put it past me.)

    • @Ash.Crow.Goddess
      @Ash.Crow.Goddess Před rokem

      @@amandadobbs8609 czcams.com/video/NGRHMxwRK4w/video.html

  • @lbrando18
    @lbrando18 Před rokem +20

    I mean, when Arya kills the Night King, when the dagger drops to her other hand, it definitely makes a sound, like a haunting melody seeping from the vocal chords of a beautiful ghost

  • @PatriotResearchGal
    @PatriotResearchGal Před rokem +85

    You forgot the other possible clue about Valyrian steel singing in ep. 8: Helayna grabbing her ears after the use of Dark Sister to kill Vamond (and after aforementioned dagger was drawn by the king).
    If, in fact, the blade holds the soul, let’s say of the woman who founded the Faceless Men, then the dagger totally fits for Arya. I wait for the books for how much the dagger holds in the prophecy though…

    • @chafrey8532
      @chafrey8532 Před rokem +13

      I’m almost positive the dagger being important to the endgame was a show only creation. George even said he regretted making it Valyrian steel. I don’t think George would make a big change like that because of the television shows. I kinda hope im wrong though. I really like this theory

    • @Ashbrash1998
      @Ashbrash1998 Před rokem +8

      @@chafrey8532 They may have included the dagger as a way to tie got and hots loosely together

    • @TheKefelder
      @TheKefelder Před rokem +2

      Yeeesss! We know that Helaena exists in 2 worlds. I think that that's exactly it!

    • @tombullard123
      @tombullard123 Před 10 měsíci

      I think thats more of a trauma response, that’s something autistic people might do after seeing a shocking event

  • @scottboyd3838
    @scottboyd3838 Před rokem +10

    Like the sound made when Jon got the upper hand on the White Walker at Hardhome ( t.v), to the shock of the Walker too. That sound made and then Jon striking him down gave me chills. Sapochnik referencing himself too.

    • @Mcherri
      @Mcherri Před rokem +1

      I don’t think white walkers or the night king were aware of valerian steel only dragon glass maybe.

  • @soja8044
    @soja8044 Před rokem +17

    Not related to the dagger but to Valyrian steel and maybe to add about it being real within the show : i really wonder if that Valyrian steel "singing" could be one of the reason Helaena covers her ears when Vaemond is killed. I know she is hinted to be on the spectrum of autism, or/and being hypersensitive to sound, and it could be the only reasons. But i find it weird how well we can see her covering her ears, especially since she is a Targaryen with "magical abilities" (not really sure if the visions can qualify as magic but maybe ?).

  • @heliopolitan444
    @heliopolitan444 Před rokem +5

    I'm obsessed with this. I need more Valyrian magic videos ♥️🙌🤘

  • @michaelc1138
    @michaelc1138 Před rokem +4

    I think at the dinner everyone should have been told about the song of ice and fire. Maybe then they would know the severity of all of them sticking together .

  • @tobuscusfoop
    @tobuscusfoop Před rokem +4

    It was screaming “read me Alicent you big dummy!”

  • @StormBlessedxo
    @StormBlessedxo Před rokem +3

    is anybody going to talk about how the king has 2 arms when he was shirtless talking to his hand last episode. smh

  • @publicfreakoutcringe1918
    @publicfreakoutcringe1918 Před rokem +23

    Valeryan steel DID make a sound in GoT original series...
    Remember when Jon was fighting that white walker he killed at hardhome?
    When Jon's sword and that WW his icecycle didn't break, but sang a song...

    • @amandadobbs8609
      @amandadobbs8609 Před rokem +3

      You're right! Nice catch.

    • @burtan2000
      @burtan2000 Před rokem

      I came to make sure someone pointed this out. It's a VERY distinct sound. I want to say it's only when facing and ice sword, tho. Or a creature of ice. I think this very blade made such a song when Arya wields it at the end.
      And it's a magical sound, one that does not dissipate over distance as normal sounds do. So no ruptured ear drums and it travels at the speed of light, meaning an observer 500 meters distant would hear almost the same thing as one 30 feet away.
      Also, a league is 3 miles. 20k leagues is twice around the world.

    • @dipsydoodle2728
      @dipsydoodle2728 Před rokem

      YES I thought that was just steel on steel especially V steel but GREAT CATCH!!!!

    • @publicfreakoutcringe1918
      @publicfreakoutcringe1918 Před rokem

      @@burtan2000 As the dagger is maybe the "ultimate weapon" to defeat the WW when they were created... Which was with the 'long night', way before Old Valerya... So it would make sense that these artifacts have a very big magical property; just like Viserys is getting sick with carrying the dagger EVERYWHERE he goes, he probabely sleeps with it.
      The dagger sings, the sword screams...

  • @samk522
    @samk522 Před rokem +17

    The oldest known example is probably Sharur, the living mace of the hero Ninurta in Sumerian mythology. It was created as an envoy to Ninurta from the god Enlil, and in addition to literally talking and communicating Enlil's will, could fly and transform into a winged lion.

  • @KingOfWinter
    @KingOfWinter Před rokem +5

    It would be something George would do imo having this lengendary sword of hero’s actually be a dagger right in front of our eyes the whole time lol. It’s kind of funny when you think about all the people and time spent theorizing about what lightbringer is, what it looks like and if it’s a sword already in the story. No one and I mean no one would’ve guessed it was the catspaw dagger this whole time lol

  • @Lesistius
    @Lesistius Před rokem +4

    Offcourse it makes a steel song, remember when John Snow killed a white walker?

  • @merrittanimation7721
    @merrittanimation7721 Před rokem +15

    The other day I was thinking "Man, the only thing that would make Bloodraven even more like Elric of Melnibone is if his sword was sentient and thirsted for souls." Well now we know Dark Sister does one of those things.

    • @JoeMagician
      @JoeMagician  Před rokem +6

      I guess it would've been on the nose to call him Elrich Rivers

    • @berlineczka
      @berlineczka Před rokem +4

      Nightblood from Sanderson's Warbreaker vibes

  • @tylercruse2402
    @tylercruse2402 Před rokem +5

    Great textual evidence! From the Red Grass field, to Brienne's first unsheathing of Oath-Keeper, to creepy Lyn Corbray's quote about Lady Forlorn.

    • @JoeMagician
      @JoeMagician  Před rokem +2

      Oathkeeper's descriptions are particularly wild, ice gets split in half and turns blood red.

    • @jonhauge-evaldsson783
      @jonhauge-evaldsson783 Před rokem

      The Ironborn as well had thursty black swords: "protected by fell sorceries and possessed of foul black weapons that drank the very souls of those they slew."

  • @xajaso
    @xajaso Před rokem +4

    I remember another singing piece of Valyrian steel: the unusual sound Longclaw made as it met & shattered the Walker's weapon in Hardhome. This sound resembles that one.

  • @triplek-dysongamingwithdan7771

    It's great to see some one else make a connection to the Nissa Nissa sacrifice and the construction of Valyrian Steel blades. I've always thought there was something there with Lightbringer supposedly being made of "dragonsteel" and blood magic being prominent in Valyrian sorcery.

  • @joshcoughx
    @joshcoughx Před rokem +12

    Loving your newfound passion Joe!

  • @SiimKoger
    @SiimKoger Před rokem +7

    People can say what they say about Alicent but girl is a trooper for taking care of Viserys in this state for so long.

  • @jonhauge-evaldsson783
    @jonhauge-evaldsson783 Před rokem +5

    I think dragon fire is the missing ingredient the Qohorics lacks to make Valyrian Steel. And if swords can capture souls then maybe the Iron throne is one big soul trap. That could be why it seems to have a life of its own...

  • @lexj.2162
    @lexj.2162 Před rokem +7

    This is surreal. The show that was theorized to feature as little magic as possible within the confines of the ASOIAF realm is the show that's doing a number on fans of the magical and historical aspects of GRRM's world, pushing them to publish lengthy, and justified, threads. How in the purple hell has helaena become one of my favorites in season one?

  • @scottboyd3838
    @scottboyd3838 Před rokem +2

    It's the sound of the song forged in the dagger, The Song (sound) of Ice and Fire.

  • @christiangiannini791
    @christiangiannini791 Před rokem +2

    This is the best HOTD CZcams page .

  • @cbob213
    @cbob213 Před rokem +6

    Whoa… Wrath of the Lich King Deep Cut.
    Nightblood, wielded by The Assasin in White: Szeth Son-Son Vallano, Truthless of Shinovar is one of my favourite sword / sword master pop culture book characters.
    Oh and Kaladin wielding Syl as a Shardblade. But she usually forms into a spear for him, since he’s more comfortable using it…..
    Turbo Geekmode deactivating….
    Please…
    Stand..
    By.

    • @JoeMagician
      @JoeMagician  Před rokem +4

      Can't help my love of wrath of the lich king

    • @cbob213
      @cbob213 Před rokem +3

      @@JoeMagician straight up Night King vibes. The old school Blizzard Devs were such fans of pretty much everything.
      So many references and Easter eggs in WoW. Haven’t played it in ages.

  • @pauldaskal9510
    @pauldaskal9510 Před rokem +2

    Very Elric of Melnibone! The Dagger is like Elric's cursed sword Stormbringer & it's twin Mournblade...both of which seem to have identity; they are bloodthirsty and transfer some power to the weilder. Also both Stormbringer & Mournblade are musical!

  • @bungalowfeuhler1541
    @bungalowfeuhler1541 Před rokem +2

    It’s the soundtrack. Music is used to heighten imagery and emotion at select times throughout otherwise visual media. In this case, the droning glass armonica notes draw attention to the blade and it’s position of importance in such a delicate time.

  • @mhorset
    @mhorset Před rokem +4

    It amazes me how you capture so many details, amazing video

    • @mhorset
      @mhorset Před rokem +1

      The sound reminded me of when jon clashes longclaw against the white walker spear at Hardhome

  • @Gingerwalker.
    @Gingerwalker. Před rokem +1

    I love these videos. But they make me feel like I have been blind and deaf while first watching the episodes. I am eager to watch the rest of your videos and then rewatch the season with new eyes and ears.

  • @ChristopherMarshburn
    @ChristopherMarshburn Před rokem +1

    Viewing the video I noticed a detail on the dagger I had not noticed before. Next to the hilt their is a seven pointed star, which would be strange since it was forged before the Conquest. On that note it was interesting to me that Rhaenyra made Luke and Jace swear to The Seven not to use violence before they left Dragonstone.
    From A Feast of Crows: “Three hundred years ago, when Aegon the Dragon landed beneath this very hill, the High Septon locked himself within the Starry Sept of Oldtown and prayed for seven days and seven nights, taking no nourishment but bread and water. When he emerged he announced that the Faith would not oppose Aegon and his sisters, for the Crone had lifted up her lamp to show him what lay ahead. If Oldtown took up arms against the Dragon, Oldtown would burn, and the Hightower and the Citadel and the Starry Sept would be cast down and destroyed. Lord Hightower was a godly man. When he heard the prophecy, he kept his strength at home and opened the city gates to Aegon when he came. And His High Holiness anointed the Conqueror with the seven oils.”
    Soon after this Aegon supposedly converted to the Faith of the Seven. So maybe he had the star added to the dagger.

  • @patrickt6227
    @patrickt6227 Před rokem +9

    Great video. While you sort of touched on this, I think a more direct link between the dagger and the Targaryen kingsblood is necessary. The dagger took Rhaenyra's blood in episode 7, via Alicent. I believe that was used to imbue the blade with more "fire". I think the dagger will be used to shed more dragons blood by the end of the series. We are leveling up the dagger and imbuing it with Kingsblood before it is ultimately hot enough to take out the Night's King. This is basically cannon, to me already.

    • @Oximb
      @Oximb Před rokem +2

      Any VS blade could kill the Others, even a dragonglass weapon could the WW and the NK. Doesn't need more dragon blood, they are all imbue with fire magic.

    • @JoeMagician
      @JoeMagician  Před rokem +3

      Yeah they could definitely be playing up the idea that the blood on the blade is why it eventually can destroy the Others.

    • @TheKefelder
      @TheKefelder Před rokem +1

      I accept this into my head Canon vault. Lol. Thank you!

    • @TheKefelder
      @TheKefelder Před rokem +1

      I can't edit, but, I've always wondered if the red stone was a ruby or if it was the blood of the maker.

  • @JNDReacts
    @JNDReacts Před rokem +1

    7:03 Corbray? Interesting. I was doing a deep dive into the asoiaf wiki trying to see if I could figure out how the dagger went from Aegon II to Petyr Baelish (Littlefinger). Littlefinger’s family tree only goes back to Sellsword Baelish. “The great-grandfather of Petyr Baelish was a Braavosi sellsword that came to the Vale of Arryn in the service of Lord Corbray.”
    I actually didn’t catch Ser Gwayne Corbray’s name when I was watching your video, but the sword’s name stood out to me in the quote about “his lady” so when I clicked on the Corbray family and saw their Valyrian steel sword was named Lady Forlorn I realized the connection.

  • @gloriabrown6403
    @gloriabrown6403 Před rokem +2

    Do you think this is the day wites? The day that the information fails to pass to the next ruler is the day they feel the weakness and know they can come back?

  • @rev1ction
    @rev1ction Před rokem +2

    What a great job. Great video, dude. Thank you for what you do.

  • @eziowayne
    @eziowayne Před rokem +2

    I’ve really been enjoying your theory videos!

  • @rext4607
    @rext4607 Před rokem +3

    Another great video mate. Love your takes, they're very refreshing.

  • @shirleymcdonald2777
    @shirleymcdonald2777 Před rokem +3

    Joe your magic is real

  • @LSK1
    @LSK1 Před rokem +2

    This sound effect reminds me of the sounds white claw made when Jon snow fought the white walker at hardhome.

  • @GeminibBorn
    @GeminibBorn Před rokem +3

    Great video, thank you!

  • @Trobinson97
    @Trobinson97 Před rokem +1

    I caught that on a re-watch. I had nearly this exact thought and was working on a tinfoil theory of my own:
    Valyrian weapons are made via human sacrifice with the souls binding the steel.
    The souls of the sacrificed inhabit the steel.
    The souls do "sing", or at the very least, can be made to sing by an expert user. The sounds are imperceptible audibly but can reach subconsciously to certain people with an affinity for it's magic, dreamers like Viserys and greenseers.
    The First men sacrificed human souls to their trees and the trees are also filled with the souls of dead CotF which constitutes the hivemind of the Weirnet.
    Bran must eat a weirwood paste that contains what looks like blood (Jojen paste theory) to fully access the weirnet and enable his body to be a suitable host for whatever the being currently inhabiting Bloodraven's decayed body is(3-Eyed Crow).
    That being (3EC) is able to see thru time and even influence events past, present and future. It can use dreams, various living things, including the trees, animals and, in my opinion with this theory, the still living souls bound inside valyrian steel.
    The 3EC is using all of it's abilities throughout time to influence the events of ASOIAF, even this event during episode 8 was the 3EC using the dagger to "sing" to Viserys, who in his fevered, delirious and dying state, repeated bits of the message as he lays dying, purposely leading events into the direction of it's choosing.
    The theory is not fully fleshed out, and it mixes a lot of book and show things, but I'm just glad to see someone also spotted what I spotted in the episode (the singing dagger) and is thinking roughly along the same lines.

  • @will420high4
    @will420high4 Před rokem +2

    So much detail, that's how a show rises to legendary timeless status and what it differenciates from any other show, I hope all ASOIF adaptations will be treated as good and respectful like HotD!!

  • @Mordred14394
    @Mordred14394 Před rokem +2

    3:38 i can clearly see Paddy's teeth…

  • @TheGirugamesh1000
    @TheGirugamesh1000 Před rokem +2

    This channel is criminally underrated get this may to 100K at least!!!

  • @Ash.Crow.Goddess
    @Ash.Crow.Goddess Před rokem +2

    Dan from Talking Thrones made a whole ass video about the white Walker theme music in GoT, and that video is so worth the watch. It compliments this one nicely. Fantastic thinking and presentation today, Mr. Magi.

  • @iamthepope9167
    @iamthepope9167 Před rokem +2

    Is it possible that the song of ice and fire is the sound made in the clash between ice and fire? In other words, so valyrian steel and dragon glass have shared properties that, when they come in contact with ice, emit a shared sound/sonic vibration? And maybe it’s this exact noise that destroys white walkers rather than the material itself.

  • @kandicescalf
    @kandicescalf Před rokem +2

    Bruh your video essays are 10/10.

  • @thisguy8106
    @thisguy8106 Před rokem +5

    All I know is... This prophecy def explains a certain House's unwavering loyalty to the Rightful Queen..all the way through.

    • @theelectricprince8231
      @theelectricprince8231 Před rokem +2

      "Rightful" is questionable but it explains the loyalty of the Starks without a doubt.

    • @thisguy8106
      @thisguy8106 Před rokem +2

      @@theelectricprince8231 questionable? Idk. King Viserys named her his Heir. That's the Rightful King's command.. That's the only reason I say Rightful Queen. I'm #NoTeam lol

  • @danyyeltr4803
    @danyyeltr4803 Před rokem +1

    The sounds is the song that the upcoming dance dances on:p

  • @dipsydoodle2728
    @dipsydoodle2728 Před rokem +3

    Another great vid I love so many people have come to your channel your vids are always interesting and gets people to think of things in a slightly different way but with a lot of great info especially from the histories that can be easy to forget
    I still have an issue with Arya being the one to kill the NK it should have been Jon and it would have for perfectly and if it has “souls” in it which I wouldn’t be surprised at all it is forged with a kind magic anyway shouldn’t it make its way to a Targ
    Also why do I seem to remember some myth about every time a sword is drawn blood also has to be drawn

  • @llianneolivoreyesmusic
    @llianneolivoreyesmusic Před rokem +2

    I actually feel like I need to read a song of ice and fire and fire and blood

  • @hanesben
    @hanesben Před rokem +2

    Always happy to see a new vid from the wisest wizard in the asoiaf community!

  • @itsmainelyyou5541
    @itsmainelyyou5541 Před rokem +4

    What was the whine before Jon 'blew' apart that white walker with Long Claw, was that just resonance, or was there significance?

  • @swhet8076
    @swhet8076 Před rokem +1

    I instantly thought of Soul Edge from the Soul Calibur series.

  • @jacobsquare4812
    @jacobsquare4812 Před 11 měsíci

    The dagger is screaming because it just heard all of its work get undone in 30 seconds and it can do nothing else x.x

  • @melancholyman369
    @melancholyman369 Před rokem +5

    Very nice, I like the concept of supernatural precious metals.

  • @shabirsihlembhele7953
    @shabirsihlembhele7953 Před rokem +5

    So, safe to say the Kitana is made of Valerian steel? 🤔
    I mean it traps the souls of its victims

  • @roienjaune2110
    @roienjaune2110 Před rokem +2

    Finally, someone making a link to Moorcock's works inside ASOIAF
    To add to this, Valyrian/Targaryen are basically Melnibonean ; the Others are close to the Fhoi Miore ; and Bloodraven and his rivalry with Bittersteel could be assimilated to Elric, albino also, and Yyrkoon, Shaira being Cymoril
    The last one could be a bit a of stretch, but Moorcock's influence is so ignored that I would be willing to give anything to him

  • @eyedeekay143
    @eyedeekay143 Před rokem +3

    I'm convinced

  • @patrickt6227
    @patrickt6227 Před rokem +3

    Yes

  • @area609joe7
    @area609joe7 Před rokem +2

    I wonder if the soul of a Dreamer became apart of the blade? Then that dreamer dreamer is reacting to the ripple just made?

  • @MandyleePlays
    @MandyleePlays Před rokem +2

    Did Alison know about aegon the younger? She never commented about the babies
    No one mentioned if she knew about the baby aegon or not

  • @majickonegames2318
    @majickonegames2318 Před rokem

    A question I asked myself immediately after the end of Episode 8.

  • @teo2805
    @teo2805 Před rokem +6

    I didn't know viserys' dagger was Arya's. How did she obtain it and what is its history?

    • @JoeMagician
      @JoeMagician  Před rokem +4

      She got it from Bran in the show, as far as the history it stayed in the royal Treasury until Joffrey tried to use it to kill bran and littlefinger acquired it.

    • @teo2805
      @teo2805 Před rokem +2

      @@JoeMagician Ahh its the same that they used to try to kill Bran! Cool!

  • @bluebloodedx
    @bluebloodedx Před rokem +2

    Like the entire concept of shaman king...

  • @dookieshoe2905
    @dookieshoe2905 Před rokem +1

    I've been rereading the Mistborn series to brush up on my Cosmere lore for The Lost Metal next month so I have to give a shout out for the sword Nightblood. It's not my favorite magic sword but it's pretty damn cool. I mean, one nick from it will turn you into a puff of black smoke and it constantly tells its weilder to destroy. It's done some other awesome things but that gets into spoilers.

  • @chancefurlong372
    @chancefurlong372 Před rokem +3

    Viserys telling Alicent was an absolutely necessary evil because almost every casual viewer seems thinks Viserys is an unimpeachable saint and Alicent is the evil witch from snow white twirling a handlebar mustache in a dark room going mirror mirror on the wall. They will refuse to accept anything beyond the binary of Disney villains. So if this creates even a little bit of ethical quandary in their minds, that the subtle-er aspects of Alicent's character (of which there was a multitude) didn't create in them, then it's actually a good thing. It is a much needed push in the right direction to not make the seizure of power so black and white. Because right now it's been firmly Team Black=good. But I'm hoping the lines will be more blurred in season 2, which means less Gendry type escapes. Since there is a prophesy in show verse, I'd much rather Viserys tell Alicent "you are the one", cause at least it puts a bow on top of every single bad decision Viserys made which most of the viewership ignored, cause they can't compartmentalize a sympathetic father from a godawful king. It gives Alicent a morally strong impetus to carry out the coup since she legitimately didn't know who he was talking about. It gives the average fan a visual marker that it is indeed Viserys who is most responsible for the Dance.

    • @theelectricprince8231
      @theelectricprince8231 Před rokem +1

      Viserys was an awful king and father. Him failing to train Rhae, failing to punish Daemon, failing to see Rhaes bastrads for what they are, failing to give Aemond justice for losing his eye (which leads to him doing..........you know) and him thinking his word was enough to secure Rhaes position. He forgot how he became king, the lords of Westeros chose him.

    • @chancefurlong372
      @chancefurlong372 Před rokem +1

      @@theelectricprince8231 Exactly. I completely agree. He himself was "elected" so how hypocritical it is for him to trample on the very legacy that made him king. Viserys was a godawful father to his other children and an even more godawful king. Completely agreed. But this was more about the justification of including the prophesy in the story.

  • @llianneolivoreyesmusic
    @llianneolivoreyesmusic Před rokem +1

    It reminds me of the Atreides theme song with the chains and the sandpipes

  • @yuna_bean
    @yuna_bean Před rokem +1

    did anyone see a rat in episode 7? there’s a rat in every other ep i do believe

  • @lindahobbs6298
    @lindahobbs6298 Před rokem +1

    Was the sword calling for Alicent ? “If” she had heard the calling, would she know what to do with it? and “if” she could read it, maybe this would stop the fighting for the throne.
    Let’s say she doesn’t, who will know how heat the blade, and understand the meaning?
    Lots of “if’s”……

  • @commontater1785
    @commontater1785 Před rokem +2

    That doesn't make sense. "Valyrian steel doesn't cause infections because the blades cut clean." Infections don't necessarily come from the blade, but from bacteria in the air, in the bandages, etc. Clean cuts don't heal as well because the smooth sides of the wound have less to grip onto and so are susceptible to infection for longer.

    • @JoeMagician
      @JoeMagician  Před rokem +2

      /shrug that's what the Maester said, they also tried to treat the four humors earlier this season so maybe not the best information.

  • @ethans3584
    @ethans3584 Před rokem +2

    Does the fact that the dagger is Valyrian steel and dragon bone speak to the role dragons might have played in the vision or production of Valyrian steel?

    • @JoeMagician
      @JoeMagician  Před rokem +1

      Certainly it is connected with the hilt, but most valyrian steel swords don't have dragon bone.

  • @dshepherd107
    @dshepherd107 Před rokem

    Perhaps, it’s simply in homage to Tolkien’s, “one ring to rule them all,” which tells the story of the rings’ creation & power, when placed in the fire.

  • @madelynmorgan2999
    @madelynmorgan2999 Před rokem +1

    what if the dagger is actually bright roar 👀👀👀

  • @jhiselebardot
    @jhiselebardot Před rokem +1

    Sooooooo, pretty much Alicent knew Viserys was going to die that night. I mean, why respond that way if she knew it was just mistaken on who he was talking to and just disregard it and put him to bed to talk to him the next day??

  • @cjsrescues
    @cjsrescues Před rokem +3

    I just watched another video that has an interesting theory. Daemon is the night king. Too many coincidences??

    • @theelectricprince8231
      @theelectricprince8231 Před rokem

      Fair point, butbI don't think the Knight King is a big a sociopath as Daemon.

  • @kekero540
    @kekero540 Před rokem

    im gonna eb honest im pretty definite that lightbringer is a glass candle or something that shares the properties of a glass candle

  • @0bskureference
    @0bskureference Před rokem

    I like to think that Aegon inherited the dagger, and that it was actually either originally made for Danys the dreamer or her father before escaping the doom. Otherwise, who would have forged it? Possibly a smith of Qohor when Aegon was fighting outside of Westeros pre-Conquest but idk that there is evidence for that

  • @gerardjagroo
    @gerardjagroo Před 5 měsíci

    Aegon's prophecy _did come through!_
    Arya Stark is of the blood of Aegon the Conqueror by way of Bloodraven and 'Mad' Danelle Lothston.
    Bloodraven and 'Mad' Danelle Lothston, the Lady of Harenhal had a child and after that Danelle got deposed for sorcery, human sacrifice and what not, Bloodraven, who was Hand of the King around this time leveraged his position _to ensure that this child was made (or married) the Lord of Harrenhal_ under the name of Whent.
    Just consider the sigils of House Lothston and House Whent.
    The Lothston sigil is _a single black bat on a field of gold and silver_ while the Whent sigil is _many black bats on a field of pure gold_
    So from the single bat of House Lothston, came the many bats of House Whent.
    This by itself denotes the continuation of a bloodline.
    Also considering that House Lothston went down in disgrace, _isnt it passing strange that its successor would choose an almost identical sigil as Lords of Harrenhal?_
    Arya, like Bran is thus a _direct descendant_ of Bloodraven and 'Mad' Danelle Lothston because their mother was Lady Catelyn Tully, and her mother was Lady Minisia _Whent!_
    It would explain why Bloodraven took such an interest in Bran and it would explain why Arya was the one to kill the Night King in the show.
    If this is true, then the blood of Aegon the Conqueror runs through the veins of all of the current Starks.
    Prophecy is described as a sword without a hilt, a weird thing that does not always turn out the way you're expecting it to turn out.
    While Rhaegar was fixated on fulfilling prophecy by making a special magic baby, he did fulfill it, but in another way, by forcing Ned Stark to marry Catelyn Tully for her father's army, the two ancient bloodlines were joined.

  • @Armageddon2077
    @Armageddon2077 Před rokem +1

    There is a high pitched sound when Jon Snow's valyrian steel sword "Longclaw" clashes against the White Walkers blade made out of crystallized ice too
    czcams.com/video/VOsZLkyZAy0/video.html

  • @JohnMacAulay
    @JohnMacAulay Před rokem +3

    The fact the prophecy is on that Valerian steel dagger changes the context of the murder plot against Bran, the cut throat had this dagger. Then the dagger found it's way into Arya's hands in the show to kill the Night's King and beat the White Walkers. This actually kinda makes the Season 8 GOT make a little more sense.

    • @lesliemisaacs
      @lesliemisaacs Před rokem +2

      But Arya isn’t a Targaryen so I don’t think she ever should have gotten a hold of it. I wonder how Littlefinger got it. I bet he stole it from Aerys after he was killed.

    • @dipsydoodle2728
      @dipsydoodle2728 Před rokem

      He totally stole it I don’t think Tyrion would lose it in a card game

  • @lucinda3964
    @lucinda3964 Před rokem +3

    Yea I originally thought there were no rats this episode, but also yea too busy trying to not cry over Viserys
    I failed at both. I cried. Like a baby.

  • @burtan2000
    @burtan2000 Před rokem

    I simply mustn't be the only one that feels compelled to note that a league is 3 miles, not 1.5. A Roman League varied in length, and was about 1.4 miles but in the English speaking world, a league has always been 3 miles. GRRM lived in England. He was inspired partly by Hadrian's wall when he stood on it in England (not when it was Roman which a bit before his birth). The War of the Roses is the main inspiration. And this is a Medieval feudal story. Valyria is the Roman equivalent in the story. Westeros is Europe or Great Britain. As an American that lived in England, writing a Medieval story set in a fantastical feudal england, Martin is no doubt referring to an english league.
    A sound can be heard for miles and not damage an observer who sits only a few yards distant. And this is magic. I say it could be magic swords sound almost the same to someone 30 ft away as they do to a person 3000 ft away

  • @happybee7725
    @happybee7725 Před rokem

    That Valyrian steele dagger…. As it cut to it in HOTD the noise thats played is at least in part the noise thats played when the white walkers appear in the game of thrones show. Its just to remind you of its significance . Most of us don’t need that as we’re geeks but your avarage watcher would have missed that without the music.
    Atleast thats my theory anyway.

  • @perfumedmanatee6235
    @perfumedmanatee6235 Před rokem

    Two kings to wake a dragon, how many to divert the river of time?

  • @qw7154
    @qw7154 Před rokem +1

    How did little finger get the dagger ???

  • @texmechs5757
    @texmechs5757 Před rokem +4

    I hope your wrist is doing better!

    • @kshaur13
      @kshaur13 Před rokem

      Is this some cryptic way of saying that Joe is having a wank?

  • @elisebrodeur-jacobs5215
    @elisebrodeur-jacobs5215 Před rokem +1

    the Conqueror is three times the man that Aegon the 2nd was. There's no comparison.

  • @lesliemisaacs
    @lesliemisaacs Před rokem +2

    Is it possible that the White Walkers attacked Westeros because Robert was on the throne instead of a Targaryen?

    • @JoeMagician
      @JoeMagician  Před rokem +3

      Craster started giving his children to the others decades before that, but the timing feels right. That they started getting active with the dragons gone.

  • @lordjoker1369
    @lordjoker1369 Před rokem +2

    The hot D 😂 oh joe

  • @will7873
    @will7873 Před rokem +1

    What an enjoyable video.
    But it's just the score.

  • @theelectricprince8231
    @theelectricprince8231 Před rokem +1

    Man, Viserys was an awful king. His Grandson/nephew must have taken it to heart and decided to be the opposite of him

  • @haakonaleksandr
    @haakonaleksandr Před rokem

    I hated the scene in GoT when the quohorian blacksmith reworks ice into the two Valyrian steel swords given to Joff and Jaime BY POURING THE METAL INTO MOLDS 🤦🏻‍♂️. That would make incredibly brittle steel. everyone knows to make a strong sword you take strong steel and heat it until it’s slightly soft, then beat it into shape with a hammer, and then quickly cool it in water.

  • @AzkuulaKtaktu
    @AzkuulaKtaktu Před rokem +1

    Litebringer