Furiosa Is Proof That Woke Marketing Is The Touch Of Death!
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- čas přidán 26. 05. 2024
- Furiosa barely out sold a Garfield movie! and this despite the fact that 90% of the audience absolutely loved it! Why is this? it's because audiences are very sick and tired of the message and so even a hint of woke will scare of the overwhelming majority of movie goers!
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"When I am Weaker than you, I ask for Freedom because that is according to Your Principles. When I am Stronger than you, I take away Your Freedom because that is according to MY principles."
-Children of Dune, Frank Herbert
The Left, in a nutshell.
Perfect summary
To put it simply, 'it's OK when we do it' which is a core tenet of leftist dogma.
@@craigs71well the right too.
Trump talked about how video games need to be censored, other people talk of how ‘we need to take this space to counter their peopaganda’
Raging golden eagle talks of how conservatives jumped in last minute trying to claim they uncensored media while demanding said media to push their values.
We also have the ‘we are blue collar workers and we are real men, i won’t have a son work white collar and be a pansy’
Now they realize tech is saturated with the left and what do they demand? ‘Where is our representation’ after 40 years of saying anyone going to tech jobs is bad.
Heck count dankula supports some forms of censorship.
Put them in charge of sony and you’ll get how they wanted pokemon censored.
Wasn’t there one alternative that they made which ‘we are a free playform’ meanwhile art is considered bannable, sports can get you banned, TV and so on because ‘we need to focus on important things’
@@judesheckelberg5135 Literally all political powers in a nutshell. The book bans in right wing states proves as much
"We don't need no man! We just need his name and all his stuff!"
"Modern Feminism" in a nutshell.
Damn if that doesn't sound like alimony.
Like batwoman lol
"We don't need no max"
Ironically, unfortunate for the movie, really, Furiosa herself isn't actually portrayed this way.
The concept of separating the art from the artist is dead. The progressives killed it. I see no reason to hold them to different standards than they hold us to.
This 100% this.
Yep
Amen 💯
They can't keep their politics in their pants as they're been trained since birth to scorn objectivity.
Death of the Author is a lie and it only serves the Left. It is both a sword and a shield. A sword to corrupt non-Leftist media (Starship Troopers) or cancel author based on their headcanon explanation (Coded characters). A shield to deny their propaganda and prop up media that pushes a message above anything else. Something is good or bad only because of its message under Death of the Author.
We now have Scooby Doo without Scooby Doo,
Mad Max without Mad Max.
What's next, Mickey Mouse without Mickey Mouse?
I mean ducktales and the goofy movie exist
He-man without he-man
Honestly, I'd be okay with that third one. The world needs less mickey mouse in general.
In most cases I think it a re skin. Kaling probably had something else in mind, but got turn down and just used the Velma characters as a skin suit to get her own failed show made.
@@vonfaustien3957he means a MM movie without Mickey. How about Duck Tales without Scrooge and the triplets
would be more exact.
Because Ducktales & Goofy are stories that aren’t about MM.
the movie is 10 years too late, going through the backstory of a character that is not popular in the Mad Max franchise; we did not want Mad Maxine, we wanted Mad Max.
To be fair to Miller I doubt he could get funding for a further male led movie but at the time they'd be tripping over their lattes to throw money at him for another "Girl Boss" flick. It's sad that this will probably be the death of any further Miller Mad Max movies.
Miller seems to be the only person who was excited for a Furiosa prequel.
this dipshit doesnt speak for all of us, sorry to anyone reading this.
Furiosa road was not a mad max movie.
it also feels redundant, didnt FR already give a tldr of her backstory?
I don't watch any modern media. Why should I spend my time and money with creatives who treat customers like dirt?
Check anime like attack on titan. They are great and no woke
@@dinoXAs2 Thanks for the suggestion. It's something I know little about but it's never too late to learn. :)
@@dinoXAs2 They going after anime as well now Sony and Disney is now going invest in anime more. We already have all netflix trash pretending to be anime already as well.
I second this
@@dinoXAs2 Stop before the ending story.
"Go broke, get woke, and inevitably croak!"
-Razorfist
The crazy thing is, Furiosa is _not_ a woke film.
@@Concerned_Bystander That shit only got greenlit because of a female lead. 168 million for a movie in the mad max universe without mad max, following a character without a fanbase.
The movie itself may not be woke, I haven't seen it, but the folks behind it most definitely are.
@@Concerned_Bystander Or you just used to seeing girl boss and you don't notice it anymore.
@@Ceabrus74 It may only have been greenlit because of the female lead, but she actually has a development arc, and no, she doesn't go toe-to-toe with guys twice her size. On the contrary, she takes a kicking more than once throughout the film.
The problem is that some people have become so pathologically allergic to the wokeness that has been shoved down our throat for the last few years that as soon as they see a female character they automatically assume that she must be a Mary-Sue girlboss even when it isn't the case.
Razorfist is a savant when it comes to linguistical pugilism.
you cant stop half way when removing rot from bread.
you must burn the bread to make sure every other loaf is spared.
Better way put it. By time you see mold on bread, it has already sent tendrils all through the bread you can't see. Even when you remove the parts you can see rest of the breads already been contaminated by the mold.
Hollywood told me they did not want me as a customer. I took their advice and went out to touch grass. It feels really nice.
Not a single inch. Because for every inch given, a mile is taken, a mile is stolen, and a mile is destroyed and paraded around to insult you.
They destroy your history. Replace it with a cheap mockery and then claim you never had any.
People complained about Mad Max being eclipsed in Fury Road and they didn’t listen. They doubled down.
CZcamsrs: "hey this one is good. Why won't people go see it... its not woke."
General male populace: "I heard that one before. Looks woken enough, no Max, no tickets.
Economy: "Yeah, and it isn't like you can afford tickets anyway..."
Pattern recognition is amazing.
It only takes a few signals for your brain to identify that it is INDEED shit.
Doesn't even need to actually be shit, the patterns are too clear.
I think the answer might be a bit more complicated. The people who buys the most cinema tickets are cinema fans. But cinema in general has been horrible for several years now and they have been gaslighted again and again that *this* movie will finally be good! So eventually they stop being cinema fans and become casuals that only goes to the cinema 1-2 times a year.
There were several years with 5+ movies that made over a billion at the global box office. This year is halfway over and the top grosser is still Dune 2 with 700 mil. The movie industry is dying and its not just the woke parts.
@@streptococo4735 that right there - pattern recognition.
most people dont really get into shit like this in the office or out and about, or if they have an opinion its that was okay or i havent seen it. And yet, if one is subtle enough, you can coax an answer out.
I have seen it a few times at my workplace. People wont speak about shows they dont enjoy, but will speak about those they do. Couple that with many shows people dont enjoy following certain trends, plus everything being hidden behind how many paywalls now?
As a regular dude, I promise you this movie isn’t woke. Not anymore woke than Aliens or Kill Bill at least. I really enjoyed this movie.
@@smileydog5941 you don't get it, it doesn't matter. It could be the holy grail of unwoke movies, it won't matter. The Boyz have been talked down to and spat on for too long. You put a girl on the cover and it will flop because that's woke enough these days.
I won't give X-men a chance because re-drawing all the female characters to remove any sort of femininity is enough for me to GTFO
This exactly. Women are female. Feminine.
People who pretend like women are just men with high pitched voices get none of my time.
Women are feminine. Soft. Curvy.
I'm not interested in female characters with watered down femininity cause people are scared of sexuality or put sexuality on a pedestal.
They stole Rogue's ass. Unforgivable!
Also where's Colossus?
@@killcat1971he is in white guilt training.
Yes he is silver, made of metal and so on but every time he walks into a white room he reflects white, but every time he goes into a dark room we can’t see if he reflects black or not.
That is proof of his underlying racial bias
@@silent_stalker3687He's also Russian
every time I hear someone saying X97 is a faithful adaptation an continuation of the 90's series I roll my eyes so hard they almost get out of their sockets... then I remember Netflix's Castlevania was also a commercial success
until that third season.......bblllleeeehhhh
@@joshuamaurer9784I thought the whole Castlevania series was unnecessary and not that good . Entertaining atleast but it didnt replaced the classic games and never will .
I'm becoming less convinced the shills are human as the astroturffing goes on.
To be fair, the Netflix production model is financially successful. The producers of content get paid in advance, so they don’t have to cater or have to produce good content that has to be sold to people. It’s basically slop.
There is no revenue, so there’s no revenue split or shares. You get paid up front. It’s a “contract” job.
And, the main cause is due to Streaming platforms requiring a catering model. Popular content is great for new users, but it’s expensive. What you need is mediocre content. Content that’s cheap and fills time. Content that doesn’t make a lot of noise or cost a lot to stream against the millions of customers who would unsubscribe if you made it convenient.
Atlas, is Financially Successful. It won’t be remembered, but it didn’t go broke. Because it was created with no imperative to be sold or marketed. Netflix, once they handed over the money, didn’t get any ability to make changes or a refund.
@@Snyperwolf91 this is a tiresome argument... Google "Castlevania" and tell me what you see. The things we love, things that are worthwhile are being diluted, subverted and replaced.
The girl boss touch of death.
Why do women keep touching us inappropriately?
I feel kinda hesitant to touch western production now I am aware of wokeshittery. 😂😂😂
I’m stealing that .
“Wokeshittery” indeed! 😂😂😂😂😂
The hardest part in this is that these people believe they are moral people to their very core. So when you talk back against them or whatever they see it as a justification of their moral system
I think they're just narcissists
@@autisticlegionnaire3624 There more to it than that. They've been brainwashed all their lives from people telling them what they want to hear.
@@autisticlegionnaire3624 I would say a narcissist zealot.
Absolutely.
A perfect example for me personally is I refuse to watch anything with Mark Ruffalo's name attached to it. He's just that insufferable. Not only are his tweets woke TDS garbage, but him mourning and eulogizing "Jojo" was way too much.
"But will it blow!?" I that that will it blow half a Ruffalo...
Wokness legitimately poisoned the "diversity" well.
Every time I see a movie that's female or PoC lead I just assume wokeness behind the motivations for that lead.
It's doubly true for franchise that were historically lead by white men but suddenly dont.
In a way, the wokies got their self realizing prophecy, people don't go to watch "diverse lead" movies now.
They did it.
“And then, for no reason, people voted hitler into power.”
They poisoned my well. My writing of PoC characters that aren't even considered human or born American...Will get the shit kicked out of them even though I agree with what is being said by the non woke crowd.
I don't give them favoritism, I don't go real world politics cause the setting ain't for that. I don't do real world racism. I don't fuck with none of the wokeness. But they tarnished cool shit to the point where I'm BEING A PERFECTIONIST so I don't do anything woke or anti woke. I want FUN and thought provocation of philosophy and actual character growth. As well as cool world building.
They're NatSoc black shirts with guilty consciences.
Pretty much. The only reason I ended up seeing it is because a friend wanted to join me at the movies but didn't want to see the knew Apes movie (which was actually pretty good as well). Much to my surprise, it was actually a pretty good movie, even if it was maybe 15-20 minutes longer than necessary. The men weren't treated like shit for being men, and Furiosa wasn't a cliched two-dimensional girlboss character "who don't need no man." On top of that, it actually had good action, drama, worldbuilding, and performances, especially from Hemsworth who probably gave one of his best performances I've seen (and he's actually a bro who respects and appreciates his audience). Unfortunately, a good movie is failing because of bad marketing and Hollywood's overall nonsense. The film may have deserved better, but the people who have taken over the industry did this to themselves.
I am genuinely curious, who the hell is still subbed to Disney+????
Wait, the creator of X-Men97 was shitting all over us? I didn't hear that, what'd he say? That sucks.
Every illegal immigrant is handed a phone and a free subscription to Disney+
Star Wars shills, though I think they also get other handouts from Didney.
They also beat all female characters with ugly stick and boob and butt reduction as well in X-Men97 as well.
normies
I wasn't even around to care about these other new controversies, I was already out the door the moment the writer said "morph is trans".
Even though the show turned out better than people expected, I'm not entirely sorry they fired him.
I believe you’ve hit the proverbial nail on the head. The general audience has finally become aware of the effects of woke storytelling on their favorite IPs, and more importantly, how to recognize the signs in media articles. Hollywood has deservedly lost the benefit of the doubt, and they are reaping some well-earned rewards.
Turns out people don't want to watch a Mad Max movie without Mad Max. What a surprise.
Honestly at this point the Two biggest movies of the year are bound to be.
Deadpool and Wolverine and Sonic 3.
What do they have in common? Oh Right!
They are Fanservice The Movie, wrapped in a coherent narrative.
I’ll bootleg Deadpool, I’m not giving them any money for movie releases ever again. Disney is dead to me.
I don’t know anyone except the CZcamsrs who are excited for Deadpool 3. My family hasn’t even mentioned it.
It's not 2015 anymore. The well of goodwill has longsince dried up.
Skip!
"Reject modernity, embrace tradition"
-Gary, Nerdrotic
Personally I have been like this for a few years, any whiff of Woke and I avoid whatever it is. I avoid office discussions, I avoid movies, TV's shows, survey's, office training, news articles and I avoid using people's preferred pronouns. I avoid it all as if it was the plague because it would cause imminent death of my soul.
Same. Get out of my head.
This will have zero cultural footprint. Road Warrior spawned so many imitators. Furiosa doesn't even have popular memes sprouting from it. Fury Road even had that.
We require a Cincinnatus to save the West.
We need Augustus marching into the Senate with legionaries
Nah at this point you require Bilisarius
@@insaniam_convertunt_scientiam To save the west, we require a modern day Hadrian, to set sail once again with his legions, to squeeze some juice... Ivdea Delenda Esta!
We half halfheartedly tried on J6, we full throatily tried at Charlottesville. look at the response from the system and normies. We would need a Trump figure to gain support and say the naughty words.... "call to arms!" who here would heed the call? Either we lost (was taken) something of ourselves or civilization has evolved beyond such tactics.
An Austrian painter is what is needed.
‘You will never have your hobbies back’
You can have my dice when you pry them from my cold dead hands
Arch, it's not just the director is an insufferable progressive but also that it's DISNEY and some of us, perhaps a substantial amount of us, refuse to give them money regardless of how good or not their content may be.
I keep telling many of my friends this; In this culture war, we will not only (most probably) have to see a huge IP fall completely (sacrificed to the woke altar) but in fact, it would benefit us. If some massive IP like Marvel. Or Star Wars or what ever falls and dies off completely, it will send ripples. They will be the new warning that they can always get Bud Lighted.
Looking back and considering what we deal with here, it was hoplessly naive to hold such a classical liberal position, we were not dealing with liberals, we were dealing with comunas.
they don't desearve any good will, because they will use that to destroy you.
Only expect bad intentions, and bad results, an if the result is happens to be good that one time, is only a matter of time, is far more likely a change in strategy.
I’ve started a new band called The Jimi Hendrix Experience.
I’m sure people won’t mind too much if a certain someone is missing.
A good movie with a strong well written female lead. Where's the women who were to support it? It's as if men are the ones who watch action movies.
That’s always a good point.
They find a franchise.
They change the franchise to suit another group.
That group traditionally doesn’t like these movies.
They don’t go to the movie.
The traditional audience don’t go because their favourite franchise has been raped and left for dead in the wastelands.
The makers blame the traditional audience for the failure of the movie because they don’t want to see this woke shite.
Keep up the good work everyone don’t submit to this ideology of the woke. They won’t be happy till all is in flames.
>Mad Max movie
>not about Max, but about some side character no one really cared about
>shocked people aren’t seeing it
I…….dont understand how this is shocking?
We are just doing what they told us to do, "if you don't like my politic, don't buy my book", "DrWho was never made for you" and so on. We out there touching grass. We can touch grass for far more time they can remain solvant
I think the only reason Fury Road didn't descend into the sort of girl boss mediocrity that Furiosa did was that it was in development long before DEI became all the rage in Hollywood.
Wasn't it written during the height of the me-too crap? Everything during that time was tainted with the woke checkbox ticking crap as Hollywood tore itself apart.
@@Low-Key123 it was a decent enough flick, but the fehminisum was blatantly obvious to me. From the evil patriarchal warlord keeping whamen as birthing things, to the village full of whamen that just kept getting raided by the evil mens...
It wasn't too on the nose though, and a solid watch despite the underlying tones.
@@Low-Key123 Fury Road release: 2015
Weinstein's arrest: 2018
@@censorthispuertorican If that isn't to on the nose for you then what is?
@@aj.j5833 the m she u
Yep, speaking for my self, Im full on to go Scorched Earth mF to any woke that be either movies, series, games, books. Just to stop it! Yes, some diamond in the rough might get lost. But the industry only understand, FINANCIAL FAILURES! If not, this will take another decade to erase..
and for those diamonds, a simple search for a bay full of treasure seeking gentlemen is all that is required
As soon as i saw a female lead i stopped caring
I'm a big fan of xmen 90s show, but, as been correctly pointed out - because of the woke director and his comments - I don't give a damn. Not even going to sail the high seas for this.
Yep. I just can't be bothered to care anymore.
Yeah they mucked up my boy Morph with that non-binary shit.
A Mad Max film without Mad Max or Mel Gibson. Yeah sure.
No Woke Skinwalker-ism at all, Stop Pointing at the Naked Emperor!
eh Fury Road worked
@@woodwyrmit because no one was aware of current culture War against wokeness we see today.
@@woodwyrm Cause people were not as suspicious as they are today...
Anti SJWs have become the new SJWs, two paranoid extremists, same coin...
@@woodwyrmactually no it failed too
I see a girlboss protagnonist and it's an easy pass. No matter if the movie is good or bad. Don't like it? Blame woke slopwood.
You have a yaoi anime pfp
@@metnah1 Nope. 創刻のアテリアル
I'm tired and disenfranchised by most things these days. I too used to have no problem separating art from the artist. If it was good it was good. My personal views and beliefs, or the artist's didn't matter. To some extent it still doesen't matter. I don't need a product, or a protagonist to look like me, be like me or think the way that I do. But We have reached a point now here I simply just don't care anymore. Or have any more f*cks to give.
If it's like the series Shogun and feels genuine at first glance. And respect it's scource material and real japanese history despite being a work of fiction inspired by history I'm on board at once. Sign me up!
But the first glance or slightest notion of anything that can be even percieved as "woke" and I don't even care to figure out if it is or isn't. I'm out. I'm done. Good luck, but this is probably not for me and I play/watch something else and don't give it a single thought or time of my day.
I just don't understand the hype X-Men 97 is getting. It wasn't good unless the bar has been lowered to "Not overtly political". The writers constantly wrote themselves into corners they then had to Deus Ex Machina their way out of, showing they clearly had no plan for how they were getting from point A to B. Plotlines that should have been front and center(Like Scott and Jean reckoning with what was done to their marriage) and been seriously addressed were just randomly dropped and then rushed through at the end.
Rogue's behavior for most of the season was horrid, but COULD have been justified if the final episodes showed her having learned the damn lesson except she completely goes off the deep end and outright betrays everything she (and Gambit) ever fought for in the end. The whole premise for why Xavier gave his dream to Magneto was just handwaved away with the most pathetic "Uh...yeah. Guess I goofed that one up good, huh"?
It's only "good" in the sense that it's not rancidly bad like most of what's on Disney Plus. It's just old fashioned bad with mediocre making-it-up-as-we-go writing, coasting on member berries all the way.
They also sidelined characters (Wolverine / Beast) and crammed so much story arch’s into one season; where one could maybe been the entire season (Fatal Attractions for example).
11:26 I don't care about any potential "good" this could be; what Good? I ask. Because the *Good* that they killed Years ago was 50×Better than this "good" piss they're urinating on us with now. I want *Astartes* Back. I want *TTS* Back. I Want 2000 and Fucking 5 Back.
Action movies are meant for men.
Making a mockery of that is to make us watch a woman unrealistically doing what is even implausible for a single man to accomplish.
i like action movies. i can identify with male hero well enough and as a bonus, there used to be buff good looking men in that movie, often with ripped shirt or shirt off.
for some reason, i cannot identify with a girl boss, despite the fact that i am supposed to do that easily, and i am not lesbian, so i skip those.
@@SuperTheTheresa it's probably your desire for an actual man.
second someone starts calling me names, I'm out.
Sorry but I won't give X men 97 chance because of the guy who made it. I don't care how good it is, Homer 3 is an exact perfect example of what happened and X men 97 is the exact same thing. I won't watch it And I'm going to consider it garbage. If you're woke you're associated and you make something great I won't watch It.
From what I gather, Furiosa is not particularly bad but it was marketed terribly as another girlboss film when it apparently isn't. The other problem is this film is like Zombieland 2: it came long after the buzz of its predecessor died. Ten years to be exact.
Yet another point is that it doesn't have Mad Max, despite including his name in the full title. It should've just been titled Furiosa, full stop. Either they plan on more side stories within post-apocalypse Australia, or they didn't think it would sell without tying Max's franchise into it, or they think the audience is so dumb that they can't figure out that it's part of the franchise unless explicitly told.
I haven't seen it and I don't plan to at this time. I enjoyed Fury Road well enough, mostly for the outrageous machinery, but I've stepped back from most new theater releases, lest I fund and perpetuate bad ideas and practices in the industry. Furiosa is a film far too late and worse, it's a prequel that likely doesn't need to exist because it doesn't further the overall franchise narrative that a proper sequel would.
Interesting to note; a lot of the ideas from this movie were intended to be used for the Mad Max game from 2015. Furiosa would also have been in the game, but George Miller's ideas were all rejected, and he has held a grudge ever since.
Oh that why he hate the game, that understandable but the creator of game were right in keeping a mad max game with max as the main character
@@n4m31355h4dow CONTEXT. I would imagine given the time frame when the game came out that it would be akin to Arkham games where in that game you play as Batman but there would be a few times where you'd switch over to Catwoman. or Furiosa would just be a side character in the vision George Miller had for the game. Now this just speculation on my part.
I have no idea what the game would have look like if they had gone with George Miller's ideas.
But we know George Miller really likes expanding the world building and showing the setting off.
The Mad Max setting NEEDS a lore video. I wonder if we know someone who is really good at conveying and articulating lore...hmm?
I still agree that it is Possible to enjoy artwork or a creation in general, without liking or agreeing with the person behind it. The problem with current day is that these people are no longer aiming to just create art. They are creating PROPAGANDA that actuvely attacks the morality and way of life of people they disagree with or view as being 'bad' from their imaginary 'moral high ground'
Both of these Mad max films are trash.
Feminist rubbish. The mary sue loved the first one, and hailed it as one of the best feminist films in years.
Why anyone liked it, I will never know. But it was a clear sign of what was to come. And here it is. Furiosa lol
Fury Road was spectacle, nothing more, nothing less...
Where Mad Max was a side character in his own named film.
I saw Fury Road as my first and only Mad Max film. I noticed it didn't have Max much in it.
Best I can say is people watched the movie for the flaming gas-spewing guitar scene where everyone huffs silver spray paint.
@@TheMaleReiwhich is also true of both road warrior and thunder dome.
The only mad max movie where Max is the main character is the first one that no one liked
Nostalgia goggles and style over substance. Same reason people stuck around for Mando Season 3 when the writing was clearly on the wall. They dropped Luke and suddenly the internet shit itself. And then we never again saw that competent Jedi Luke we always wanted since Return of the Jedi.
People need to stop falling for obvious bait and switches.
I think the people that liked it just got carried away by the cinematics , I hated it cause I noticed all the woke subtext, however I won't pretend if wasn't well made , now folks are more aware and fed up with woke, they reacted poorly to the 2nd attempt , I would guess its much lower quality too , I say guess cause there's zero chance of me watching it , fooled once etc
I was touching grass, I missed this one.
Mad Max without Mad Max could totally work. Give me "Blackfingers of the wastes" any day of the week. Hell, make it a complete Chumbucket series. But the moment I witness a whiff of girlboss or other DEI signifiers within two degrees of separation of the project, I drop any support. I didn't choose this "one drop rule", you forced it on me with bait and switch after bait and switch after bait and switch.
It's the culmination of what horseface's Indiana Jones 5 wanted to do. Replace the male main character with a woman.
Except nobody wants to go see a Mad Max movie without Max.
Almost no one went to watch the movie and few who did loved it. One of two conclusions you can make from this, the movie is actually good or the people who went to movie are those who's ideology is catered to in the movie. You take your pick, I know which one I'm leaning towards myself.
Truthfully it was good and not woke. George Miller wouldn't be stupid like thst and ruin his baby like that. He just wants to expand his world and lore. Hollywood messed it all up with girlboss woke bs. She wasn't even the sole main focus of the movie. She wasn't even Mary Sue strong She got throttled at one point pretty hard.
It's a shame, Miller loves the world he built and wants to share it.
How many girlboss movies have their been in the past decade? People are just tired of seeing a film that originally had a male lead usurped by a female because reasons.
Furiosa's story was already told, we didn't need more of her, but they knew it would have gone over even worse with some random black, queer, lesbian with a trans sidekick/lover in the major role - but, that would have been the next step had this movie done well. They may still since when does a movie doing poorly mean they have to stop?
Don't know if there would have been much passion for another Mad Max film, let alone this.
You can watch Mad Max, Dune, Ghostbusters at the cinema. Is it 1984 or 2024?
Can we get a Max Max style Garfield movie called Furryosa...
He has to fight against a roided out dog with a goofy expression and a floppy tongue: Warlord Odie-us.
@@harbl99 And instead of water, it is obviously Lasagna that is the real rare resource.
I simply don't watch anything centered around females now. Im taking a decade break from girl bossing.
Reciprocity is the best diplomacy.
The term "atavistic return to quality" came to mind, which is very much where we are.
Nobody cares about what critics write
Well 180 reversal thing is rather useful to determine is it worth the watch. Also piracy sites too. Look their reviews and its unlikely there is bots increasing the score or deleting positive reviews.
@@Hellsong89 I mean that people that say that nobody watches critically acclaimed movies is wrong. It has no effect, nobody watches them because their ad campaign is shit and they are not appealing for word of mouth
You are 100% right. My brother saw the marketing and was like "I have 0 interest in woke crap"
I’d boil it down even more simply than that.
Prices are rising, people have been TRAINED to not trust a movie on name alone and overall to not bother with the cinema now unless it’s the only place to watch the movie at its best.
Everything else gets added to the wish list for streaming/dvd/blu-ray release.
Add a few red flags in front of that rising costs and declining interests and it pays big to just wait it out.
Mad Ma'am
Mad H03... LOL
Lel
I know it worked on me. If anything has even the slightest hint of woke, it's a hard pass for me. Even a show or movie not being woke isn't enough for me. If the people that made it are far left, I will also readily avoid it.
Mad Max WAS Mel Gibson for good for bad or for ugly.
Trying to make (remake) Mad Max was a mistake.
Try and build new universes, new realiities and new histories with own backgrounds instead of bastardise old great movies. i am glad to have the 3 Mad Max films in dvd for my child when he reaches the age, just as every GOOD old fioms that never needed more sequels or remakes.
There are only 2 Mad Max-films and one game that did open world right and nothing more.
Starwars marvel dc startrek, i just dont care anymore
Art of wrighting good characters is hard even when its only about male MC. Males are simple they tend to agresivity and competion naturaly and puting them in fight is very natural. Female on other hand is bloody hard, they tend to make things more complicated and dont really work well with fight so puting them in combat require very well crafted story of itself and today scenerios wrighters lact tallent and ability to make this kind of story.
The Orange Cat is a guaranteed family friendly movie with a dose of nostalgia.
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Look. Passing the torch is difficult. Furiosa wasn't much of a character in the movie she was introduced in. A workable secondary protagonist but only just. Having this character lead a movie just...wasn't going to work? If this had been a couple years earlier maybe?
Mad Max drifting through his world dealing with the insanity thrown his way is... the point isn't it?
I was watching 97', but it was kinda ghey. Like, the way Xavier and Magneto would talk, emote and inflect with some of the dialogue was offputtingly Globo-homo.
Also, like who is the show for? It tries to be mature but feels like it's for kids still. Basic "Racism bad". Yeah, okay i get it, but if you're gonna appeal to OG fans, age the dialogue up and make the story more important than thinly veiled moralizing.
I just found it kinda basic and stupid. like why would wildly varying genetic mutations automatically make them have a "prosperous" nation. It ignores genuine culture.
Not only do woke centric stories fail but also prequel stories in general are not hitting the mark.
Narrative moves forward, like we all do in our lives. The general feeling after we have been entertained by a good story is "what's next?". Now this was picked up by Hollywood in the 1970's and over the decade's we saw innumerable iterations and churn on sequels, so much so that I believe that the audience grew to expect them. Marvel, from 2008 to 2019, knew how to handle this by building upon each previous story, with a long narrative arc as the main driver of the story.
Yet there was a push to go back in a story's timeline, to tell what happened, before X happens. The Thing 2010 was one of the first examples of this and also of the trope of the girlboss being the main character appearing. The film failed and it's still not regarded well by fans. The film failed because we know what is going to happen next.
Same goes for this film.
The fact that I didn’t even know this movie was a thing until this video shows how enthusiastic people were for it
Let me put it this way: currently on CZcams there are plenty of Star Wars, Godzilla, DC, W40K contents, you name it...
Made by more talented independent creators...
And it's free.
As a fan, I’ll at least vouch for Godzilla. They’re still making good films, Minus One was a great emotional film with one of my favorite Goji Designs. New Empire was fun in a Saturday Morning Cartoon kinda way. And the fandom is generally United, still, even with the influx of tourists after Minus One’s release.
i think that point cant be stressed enough
yes, we dont like woke BUT if woke shit wasnt... shit people wouldnt bounce right off of it, it wouldnt need all these campaigns to artificially promote it, you wouldn't be complaining that "chuds" are ruining you product. woke stuff tends to subtract, reduce, or simplify a lot if the dont simply miss the point in the first place leading to a lower quality product even though it's entirely possible to create decent media with their message making it harder to combat.
GG is a great (and thuroughly beaten) example as a character well known and liked gets a change that appeals to an extreme minority that either already hyperfixated on them because of how they came off or started to because their entire personality revolves around what they turned the character into. most people dont care and simply dont like the conversation leaving a small few that cared about character consistency to argue with people who never came into this with logic and refused the idea that what they were given made no sense
Im sure Mel Gibson is laughing so hard right now
Hollywood has completely killed my enthousiasm for new movies these past few years. Even if a genuinely good film is in the making, It's hard for me get excited by it.
First to get it out the way, love the PFP, Teknoman was a great show.
Second, yeah my excitement has turned into expectations of lameness.
And god help the actors, Director and execs all come out whining about wahmen and the gheys and such before it is released, pretty much seals the deal I will NEVER touch that film ever.
i dont watch western media these days, i havent in years. I tried watching Fallout, but barely got halfway through the 1st episode before thinking i can be watching something better.
Anime doesnt have this bullshit, and there is soooo much of it, even if one has to sift through garbage
I forgot this thing was releasing, lol. I know it went fully under the radar when arch covering it is the first time i hear it.
Mad Max as Mel Gibson is literal Perfection
It will be when it fits a women - Batwahmen
I AM WOMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!
I went and saw it with my dad today, and we loved it, dad being a boomer Mopar Muscle kid and I love action flicks with lots of personality. Our big takeaway was that it does run long at 2-1/2 hours, but Miller and Co. do NOT waste any of it; the plot gets going, and it’s off to the races. Pun…somewhat unintended?
The biggest fault with the film is that it's at least five years late; if it came out between 2017 and 2019, theaters would be filled. I know filmmaking is a complicated process, but you risk projects like this underperforming like Furiosa has. The second biggest is that it's a prequel. General rule of thumb for you writers out there: NO. PREQUELS. Pick a spot to start and go from there; allude to past events if and only _when you must._ Trying to fit a story into a preset path always goes badly when you try to force an outcome.
It is hard to say as most things that have a good start... tend to quickly tank and turn toxic as the toxic owner claims the poisonous fumes are what made it good.
And thus more posion is poured on it.
There are only 3 Mad Max films. RIP Max (1979-1985)
Reject the "Girl Boss" bullshit, reject the woke company's products. *Do Not Hate Watch.*
Made by Hollywood + prequel/remake/reboot + character nobody cares about + stunning strong diverse female for modern audiences
The film already had *ALOT* of stigma working against it being popular. I suspect we might see it have legs as word of mouth gets around, but alot of people are probably done to the point of boycotting movies entirely and won't watch it (legally) no matter how many reliable sources tell them it's not super woke.
I like the idea of non-mad max character story in universe.
But to make it work they'd have to release it when franchise was "riding high", not almost 10 years after last movie. Especially as people already wanted to see more of Tom Hardy's Mad Max after Fury Road.
0:53 The review sites that have been bought by large media companies had positive reviews?No way.
I too am completely disengaged from modern Hollywood. I did watch the Dune duo. But I won’t be watching a third film. I want to avoid the inevitable, boy bad, girlboss to the rescue that’s been set up at the end of the second film.
Plus there are only two Mad Max films, no matter what the internet movie database said.
My main complaint that kept me from seeing it was that based on the trailers it looked more like a video game than a movie.
Counterpoint to the "Separation of art from artist" point: that separation is a two-way street, and it isn't an effort taken by the audience but also the creator. Great authors allow their beliefs to be challenged and have their flaws to be acknowledged, since it deepens the conflict. The problem these days is that modern creators are narcs who make everything about themselves.
It's not Mad Max without Max. And it sure as hell isn't without the interceptor.
At this point, you don't even need to be woke, you just have to LOOK woke.
I got tired of poor quality content that I was then called nasty names for if I refused to pay for it. I stick to old media I have in my DVD collection. I did see Furiosa (didn't pay) and it was ok. I'm not sure why it's getting such rave reviews. It was an inferior rehash of what we saw in Fury Road. Anya doesn't appear till the second half of the film and just stares and scowls her way through. Not very compelling.
Hollywood: You know that bait and switch character from the last "Mad Max" movie. Let's make a movie about her.
Here's the thing about the rare cases where woke people manage to create decent media - either through accident, professionalism or sheer talent, they have managed to avoid sticking overt woke preaching into it to ruin it decisively. Will they be able to keep it up? All their woke friends, co-workers, bosses will insist, demand even, that the preaching and virtue signalling is taken up a notch in their next work. Will they resist and keep resisting forever? It's not exactly a safe bet, in fact experience shows they will break sooner or later, usually sooner.
Hollywood beancounters should seriously do an experiment. Draw up say 10 movie posters for fictional action movies (with lots of explosions, weapons, vehicles with speed blurring, that kind of thing), with the caveat that half of them have male lead characters front and center, and the other half has female leads in the front. Now show those to 100 men (males after all being the main consumers of action movies) and have them tell you which of the movies they would watch. I think the result would be rather devastating to the bottom line with woke Hollywoods current business practices.
I am hoping the Mad Max franchise goes the same way as the Evil Dead franchise. Evil Dead has a female main character movie that was okay. Then, there was a three season Evil Dead series with an older Bruce Campbell that rocked.
I am hoping we may see a Mad Max series after this.
At this point, it is clear there is enough world building in the Mad Max franchise to have a series in that franchise.
They cancelled the evil dead show. So...
The evil dead remake was crap. It became the most "by the numbers" spoopy film I've ever seen.
There is only on Evil Dead-movie and nothing more.
The games, comics and other movies that followed are nothing but fanfiction with emphasis on "comedy".
That and Bruce Campbell,@@Low-Key123, is done with playing Ashley J. Williams getting gallons of fake gore dumped on himself
@@Low-Key123 30 episodes is a solid run.
And Mr. Campbell is working on an animated revival.
So never say never.