What will Gibraltar look like post-Brexit? Newsnight visits British Overseas Territory left in limbo
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- čas přidán 23. 01. 2023
- Gibraltar has been a source of friction between the UK and Spain ever since it was captured by Britain in 1704 during the War of Spanish Succession.
The British Overseas Territory was left out of the permanent post-Brexit deal which now governs the UK’s relations with the EU.
Instead, it has been operating on ad hoc arrangements ever since, but at Davos Spain's Foreign minister said that London and Madrid were close to finding a definitive solution settling the post-Brexit status of Gibraltar.
Newsnight’s International Correspondent Joe Inwood reports.
Produced by Louis Harris-White. Filmed and edited by Liam Weir.
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"I'm not a diplomat, I'm a politician, I tell it as it is."
Ah yes indeed.
Yes, I did quite raise my eyebrows at this answer.
Obfuscation is the norm it seems.
Yep he just wants to bury his head in the sand, you will not get anywhere with this evil and pathetic Tory government, they do not care for anything outside of the home counties, tory heartlands and their mega-rich donors, although they switching to labour now lol
That’s called starting the campaign even before the campaign period starts.
The parasitarian rat nest must be Spain again. All the residents there are not native, they are imported scum from different places in the mediterranean while the real gibraltarians left when the brits occupied the village.
Spanish people think of Gigraltar as a piles of Spain, but in no way spanish people wants UK there.
Three years after Brexit, the British are still waiting for the benefits of Brexit.
greetings from the Netherlands
I'm British and I think brexit was a terrible mistake. I voted to stay in and against the Conservatives at every opportunity, and will again. But we lost, not only in the one off referendum but in two subsequent elections. Now we have brexit, the in/out debate is over. If we wanted to go back, it would take years (probably decades) and we wouldn't get the deal that we had. So if remaining is off the table, what can we do? The Norwegians would apparently veto us joining EFTA, so that really limits our options. It's why we are absolutely screwed. Any version of brexit we can have is horrendous compared to what we had. The circumstances we have found ourselves in are dreadful and mostly self-inflicted. But the only way out is for some sort of Swiss style arrangement but that will take an awfully long time to get right. People voted in large numbers to get brexit out of the news in 2019, little did they know it has only really just begun
@@jimjam5239 Swiss style deal is a fairy tale - The EU will never agree to this, so we only have one option - to re-join and accept that it wont be as good as we had it before but it will be better than it is now.
@@beanie6639 Rejoining is not an option. Going back in would take decades and we simply do not have the political consensus. As soon as we get another Conservative government, maybe 2034 or whatver, the application process will cease. The Conservatives aren't changing to pro-European again and would undoubtedly mount serious opposition to a Labour Party wanting seemingly endless negotiations and freedom of movement.
You have your freedom and a future. More countries will soon follow.
@@SunNy-tw1ym we voted to leave in 2016, nobody has followed suit and the queue to join has grown.
"Temper tantrums don't get you anywhere in politics." Astounding way to describe Brexit, even though the guy used it to get people to accept Brexit.
I think he was referring to himself and getting on with the job rather than complaining that the vote didn't go his way. That's real leadership. Unlike what happened here with our politicians where most of them spent 4 years trying to subvert the result.
I have never heard this line before "I am a politician and I tell it how it is" when has politicians every said the truth. I usually call politicians professional bullshitters.
Believe it or not, there are some decent politicians with a moral code. Just because the majority are bad, and they are, doesn’t mean we should label them all as the same. All I’ll say is, treat each politician as an individual and judge him/her on their actions before casting judgement.
@YOLO MORGANNWG I do not call this edgy since it is common knowledge.
Intelligent depends on what since we all specialize in different fields. Just that politicians specialize in bullshit. Debates never develops peoples knowledge and gives any benefit to society. It is just the one who floods the conversation with the most bullshit that generally wins. Since no one fact checks them and no one self reflection after a debate.
I wish we had academic debates where knowledge is actually improved upon and where people reflect and develop societal concepts. This is why I belong to my own ideology of a mix with technocratic, scientocratic, meritocratic, parlamentary democracy. In short have a regular palamentary democracy with filters. Everyone can vote over 18 but people who are in charge of a department must be specialized in that departments feild.
totally agree.
Add this to the other 10,000 reasons why Brexit (which was non-binding) was such a dumb, terrible idea. But, hey... the conservatives in England don't care about other people (or their own).
You Nailed it. 🦖☄️
True
Labour gave half the votes for Brexit.
@Conrad CodFish 🥚🥁 rage grievance hysterics- they were played so well by that pig Boris Johnson. Emasculated utterly. 🇬🇧 🦖☄️
so you want to pay more on CAP budget? no border on immigration? Can't import from other Commonwealth countries because Brussel says so?
You can still move and work in EU with EU.
Gibraltar has the right to remain "British", but if it wishes to join the UK outside of the EU, then freedom of movement over the EU/Spain comes to an end. After all, the UK voted leave to end freedom of movement.
Wishes to join the UK? You dont understand Gibraltar. The UK and Gibraltar is inextricably linked.
@@Dan.Dawson And if Gibraltar joins the UK in its hard Brexit, then freedom of movement, the lifeblood of Gibraltar's economy, comes to an end.
@@Evemeister12 again, you clearly do not understand Gibraltar...
We used to live next door to Franco ffs 🤣🤣
@@Dan.Dawson and the closure of the border hampered gibraltar greatly. A hard brexit for gibraltar would bring those problems back
@Westbourne Park OK. Back to the 80s. That's fine. Treaty clauses aside, If that's what Britain is doing then that is what Gibraltar doing.
4:16 "We need an agile border."
WTF does that even mean? You either have an open border without customs checks or you don't. You might as well say you want crops to grow without rain or snow without the cold.
Brexiteers 😂
What about freedom of movement for people, and customs for ships and big cars?
Like who even cares if a person with a backpack goes in or not, that won't hurt anybody. Let the people cross and work and go shopping, only big transfer of goods to be checked.
Dispense with the illusions that a hard border there would benefit everyone. Imagine having to ship food and goods exclusively from the UK, labour mostly from UK. I would certainly not enjoy to experience the bills.
I would argue that it is very favorable for Gibraltar if they allow the exchange of persons with limited amount of goods freely, as they should allow Spanish crops. The rest of goods can be handled as UK stuff, because it has to be imported from somewhere around the world anyways and because not much gets produced in UK or Spain exclusively anymore.
@@sniperman3110 It's a hard one to pull off. It's easy to grant workers special clearance for example (although every worker will need to be official then which not every business owner will appreciate). But food, which Gibraltar needs to import from Spain needs to come in bulk. And so on and so on. An open border between Gibraltar and Spain and a hard border between Gibraltar and the UK makes more sense but that's a big risk in the eyes of the unionists. In short, this whole hard border Brexit thing is stupid, it hurts the EU and is catastrophic for the UK.
@@sniperman3110 Define "limited amount of goods." So, more goods than can fit in a backpack? How many more? Enough to fit in a car? Define how big of a car. Etc. etc.
There is no scenario where creating exceptions does not create more work and more customs. If you have someone exclude all vehicles below a certain tonnage from customs checks, you need to set up weigh stations to see if they are excluded or not. You want to let just random people cross? Then what was the point of any of this? The whole (stated) POINT of Brexit was Britain wanted to "assert sovereignty" and "control borders" and a variety of other gibberish, nationalist talking points. If you're going to let any random mook cross the border on foot whenever they feel like it, then the whole exercise was pointless anyway. What this guy wants is not compatible with Brexit.
it means those people (the finance sector and gaming industry) want weak laws and weak regulatory oversight to make their money. the EU doesn't allow that. so they want to be outside the EU. the rest of Gibraltar knows it has to trade and exchange people/labour to survive economically and they want to be treated as inside the EU. on top of that they stubbornly want to be British. well, it's *cakeism* pure and simple. we have heard that a lot since Brexit.
I assume that Gibraltar will introduce VAT and all other taxes just like the rest of the UK, right? I mean, they're such patriotic Brits and will want to be treated like everyone else.
Yeah, funny how they don’t really want to contribute to the rest of the UK...
Does the Isle of Man have the same British laws? We’re an overseas territory and we can adjust our laws to our liking
@@James-mr7lm You mean the Isle of Man is a tax dodgers paradise, that uses the UK to protect it but won't pay its way.
@@James-mr7lm Curious about Jersey and Guernsey. Aren't they part of the UK, but also not (confused...)?
No thanks, we aren't part of the mainland and we built our economy on tax efficiency. We live quite happily without VAT, it's lovely to claim it back every time we buy something overseas too 😄 it's nice getting a 20% discount on everything (with IVA) bought in Spain.
Borders have not nothing to do with identity.
Monaco , Andorra and San Marino have open borders with their neighbors (while not being EU members) and neither their identity nor their sovereignty are threatened
Andorra doesn't, it has border checks when you arrive. Monaco and San Marino are part of monetary unions with neigbours, so have open borders. We don't have this because we wanted a total break from the EU, we just ended up with a no frills free tariff agreement.
@@cambs0181 I've heard people saying while border checks technically do exist, often they aren't done and people just enter freely.
@@cambs0181 But wasn't the main point of Brexit getting back control of your borders? Why would you want to be outside the EU, but still in a free travel agreement? I always thought that the british voted for Brexit because they wanted to prevent eastern europeans from moving to the UK, regardless of the costs. Being in a free travel agreement with the EU seems to defeat the purpose, as you still don't have the political rights that come with EU membership, but you do need to allow EU citizens to live in the UK.
All 3 countries are landlocked within the EU surrounded by EU members so it's easier to maintain more open relations though an EU sponsoring member like France and Spain with Andorra (the president of France and the Spanish Bishop of Urgell are co-princes of Andorra), France with Monaco and Italy with San Marino.
In any case, those are agreements with reverent nations that has been part of Europe for hundred of years thus do have favorable relations. The EU cannot, and shouldn't, give the same conditions to an overseas territory of a country that is not not part of the EU but one that decided to cut ties with it.
Any solution must include EU control of customs and immigration as open boarders means free access of people and goods. It seems there is some progress with this but, as mentioned, without an agreement before the Elections the chances of a closed boarder will increase.
Well some people have to re-learn this simple facts. Brexit did that to the whole of the EU. It was a stupid idea on so many levels.
Im sure the UK gov will look after them every bit as well as they look after Northern Ireland.
That ought to keep them awake at night, if true.
@@Mike7O7O England wants to keep its colonies. The so called Commonwealth aren't ruled from London directly any more. These little lands remained for Tory games
There are no offshore banks, are there?
Extreme brexiteers, Johnson fanboys and the rest of the 52% only thought about what happened in GB thinking brexit would be simple, and never cared less about Northern Ireland and Gibraltar, and thought any solutions about Northern Ireland and Gibraltar would do if pressed about them even if the solutions were incompatible.
@@dvidclapperton it's irrelevant. The Northern Irish and Gibraltar people want to remain English irrespectively, share the fate of England
Very nice Photography in this report , compliments to your team.
Pity about the standard of distraction and bias reporting - recently!
Mick Mack, Legend, nice to see a nice Comment :D
If you ever happen to be in La Linea, don’t miss the Feria and try to catch the Domingo Rociero. It won’t disappont, super event, very cool, very Spanish!
I went every year - it's about a week long festival, day & night.
Good hashish
I am far, far more concerned with what the citizens want than what countries want.
they want to be British.... its a very big thing to them... they already had referenda... doubt its changed... they could change that anytime they want though.. since they are an overseas saltwater holding... they are entitled to self determination that is external... so all they would have to do is ask... since they are outside UK territorial waters and not connected to mainland.. this obv doesnt apply to Scot/NI... though...
@@joecater894 they also want to be part of the EU!
@@joecater894 That’s where I was going with that. The whole “they want to be part of Britain” thing
@@airhabairhab get a grip, this isn’t another Scotland situation. Go to bed🤣
@@airhabairhab but their identity isn’t attached to a political union in Brussel’s. Their identity is attached to the UK. A different political Union.
Has anyone found an actual brexit benefit yet? It seems to only be new problems that don't need to exist
Great comment 👍 brexiteers,. Please answer! I'm not flaming, just genuinely interested!
Give it time! Rome wasn’t built in a day!
@@joebloggs4191 it took 800 years to build Rome apparently. Even if it takes 10% of that time for a Brexit benefit to emerge, , everyone commenting here will be pushing up the daisies by then.
@@danquixote6072 Well it's only been a year or so, so give it a bit of time. Most of you who talk ill of Brexit are youngsters who can't remember a time when the UK wasn't in the EU and it was doing just fine. There are also plenty of other countries in Europe that are also not part of the EU that are doing just fine too. There are countries around the world that are not part of the EU that do just fine too. Who wants to be part of clan of unelected zealots who dictate everything a country must do that mainly only benefits those that control the EU such as the Germans and the French. In time to come you will see more countries will be leaving the EU. I wonder how they are doing without UK's 80 billion input maybe Romania can make up for it. LOL.
@joe bloggs Didn't you Brits have to be bailed out twice by main land Europe because of your near bankruptcy?
I pretty well remember when Falklands war happened a magazine article in my country about a stir in Gibraltar (with a picture of a banner "Gibraltar Espanol & Malvinas Argentino".) But then reflecting 40 years later I think it's the least of priorities. Plus you have an Indian-British PM and a Pakistani-British London mayor. What a turn of events.
Probably some dumb Spaniard put it up. Gibraltarians don't want to be spanish.
Falkland should be returned to Argentina.
They have the enemy inside already.
@@MariaBelenSeyssInquart Immigrants are not Britain's enemies, they are some of Britain's best friends.
@@suhailshafi do you live in Bradford and happily join the Rotherham gang?
I like the Chief minister of Gibraltar. He’s a no drama man.
Interesting chap. He is equally quite British and not very British in his demeanour. I guess a appropriate position to be in.
Yep. I really like this guy.
@@Anti_thesis If I didn't know I'd have thought he had spent his whole life in the UK. He sounds like he's from Surrey or something
Sturgeon needs to take a leaf !!!!
@@BeBe-vh4ry many Gibraltarians of his generation and before were educated in the UK in boarding schools.
I am looking at a photo of my great grandfather, who spent a few days in Gibraltar when he was being shipped off to fight for the Queen. He was serving in the Argyle and Sutherland Highlanders. The date of the photo is 1881.
What a great thing to have! Wish I could see it too.
What happened in 1881 which compelled him to go fight? AFAIK it was a rather quiet year, except perhaps for colonial "disturbances".
Was your ggfather's name Jones, off to fight the fuzzy-wuzzies under Lord Kitchener?
Hope some sort of special economic status is granted to Gibraltar so that people with legitimate need can cross the border easily. Businesses and employees shouldn't suffer needlessly, British or Spanish.
Same as in NI 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The tories ramming things through in countries who voted againat Brexit such as Northern Ireland and Gibraltar knowing that they were always be the most directly affected by brexit if leave won due to England's votes plus from English votes in Wales, and suffer the most severely damaging and most devastating consequences of brexit being right on the border with the EU is really despicable.
places like that are exactly brexit must be cancelled.
The parasitarian rat nest must be Spain again. All the residents there are not native, they are imported scum from different places in the mediterranean while the real gibraltarians left when the brits occupied the village.
Spanish people think of Gigraltar as a piles of Spain, but in no way spanish people wants UK there.
Gib can give visas to the Spanish workers, and Spain can give visas to Gibraltarians so that we can continue to spend our money in Spain like they want.
We don't have to dissolve the border for this to happen.
11:58 that block of flats on top of the cliff in the background, i used to live there
I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
There is one undeniable reason why Spaniards don't want Gibraltar back and that's because there's huge amount of British people on that rock. Understandably so.
Lol every spanish person i know wants Gibraltar back
@Plus_☆ "every Spanish person I know..."
He know two. His Spanish teacher and the King
And every moroccan wants those spaniards off melila and ceuta same situation but they claim its "different" and should keep it , as i see it if gibraltar is given back to them they should give back
Moroccan? What is that?
@@KrlKngMrtssn Moroccan a person from Morocco a kingdom to the south of spain across the straits of gibraltar
I like the chief minister he’s just getting on with it
Britain should have left 30 years ago immigration is one way traffic 5.7 Million Eastern Europeans invaded Britain 950,000 births 4 billion a year in Benefits & thousands of Eastern European criminals filling up our prisons this is not country other countries in the EU invading for free health care good social security & housing
Here here
Yes he seems to be a professional politician who has his "country" and people's best interests at heart and is determine to understand every little detail before agreeing anything.
Contrast this with the UK's Boris Johnson who either didn't understand or didn't simply care the effect of his own "oven ready deal" was going to have on Northern Ireland and its relationship with the rest of the UK.
It's easy to "just get on with it" when your job/way of life isn't at risk
I think he was featured with a youtuber
It is highly significant that, in two referenda on the sovereignty of Gibraltar, the people returned an even higher majority in favour of British sovereignty than the 96% vote in favour of remaining in the EU. These negotiations may take years more to complete but, in the meantime, and afterwards, whatever the outcome, Gibraltar will prosper.
In Mr. Picardo, the people of Gibraltar have the quality of negotiator we should have had during the UK's negotiations with the EU and there is little chance that his government's hands will be tied by the passing of a no "no deal" law, as was the case in the UK, hence our sub-optimal deal with the EU.
Northern Ireland has a different relationship with the EU than GB does, why can't Gibraltar?
they pay the locals generous benefits to act as human shields to the air base.
Literally between rock and hard place 😏
... good one :)
😂😂
those keys are a bit too small
Picardo is leaving in Spain...usually goings on Spain hospital....they have theirs residences in Campo de Gibraltar
I quite like their accent. Very smooth
i’ve just come back from Gib and it’s exactly the same as it was before brexit.
I love Gibraltar.. the people are nice and friendly and Brits abroad are delightful. And yes, its very British in its outlook. Brexit is a big problem for everyone...
Probably quite rocky I imagine
This is nationalism gone mad. The Chief Minister and that woman are willing to let Gibraltar's get screwed for the sake of "Britishness". Advocate for yourselves! If Westminster values Gibraltar, they must reach a deal favorable to them, and Gibraltar should advocate for it, not just take whatever flavor of Brexit they pick.
We are advocating for ourselves. It's preferable to have a hard border and remain British than to become part of the EU and become spanish.
Most Gibraltarian politicians actually live in Spain, including that Chief Minister before the pandemic. They just say to the camera what they believe people want to hear.
Well Gibraltar voted to remain British so cant complain there, the only reason Gibraltar has such a strong economy is because its a British territory. A small territory with about 30,000 residents provides about 11,000 jobs to Spaniards across the border, a very high figure. If the economy of that town was comparable to Gibraltar then Gibraltans would travel across the border into Spain, the simple fact here is that Gibraltar is rich and prosperous due to being British
@@thwales2520 May be that doesn't happen because Gibraltar strongly subsidized economy with almost 0 taxes makes it impossible to La Linea's businesses to compete with Gibraltar.
@@thwales2520 The economy has, as I understand it, quite a lot of gaming (internet casinos, etc), and pays minimal taxes. There's not a lot of people in Gib, so they don't have to build 1000's of miles of roads, etc, and once they had built their infrastructure over the last 200 years, their ongoing infrastructure costs are minimal.
If the English should have learned anything after Brexit it's the fact they need foreign labor. Who's going to bring the mimosas to the posh pensioned English? Btw, "I'm a politician, I tell it like it is" ?! 🤣 Brussels will respond as they responded to Boris' threats. And Gibraltar will feel what Brittain is starting to feel now... It's stupid and sad, like the whole Brexit thing. It's bad for us, and it's catastrophic for the British, certainly in the long run.
wage growth comes from labour scarcity not labour glut, people want to earn more for their work not compete with lower cost of living nations for jobs on wage level.
@@chrisl6291 True but as a single fact useless. It's way more complicated. Cheap labor and housing in Spain make wealth in Gilbraltar possible. How many British do the dishes in Gibraltar's restaurants do you think? But how many British working in Gibraltar need to cross the border each day because they can't afford to live in Gibraltar but do work there. Economics is vastly complex and unpredictable. But almost always better with easy, free trade. Simple isolated true facts are dangerous. It's how Brexit was sold and look at what happened.
@@chrisl6291 your thoughts on this matter is not how it works anymore, due to globalisation. Cheap labour is everywhere. The UK can now find cheaper, lower skilled workers from out of the EU. It is up to the British government to improve schools and institutions. This will improve and diversify the skill set of their population, so that they can earn more. The UK has one of the slowest productivity levels in Europe.
There is a shortage of school places in the UK, there is also a shortage of hospital beds and there is also a shortage of housing. We don't have enough room for people from the international community. They should stay in their own countries.
@@chrisl6291 brexit is sinking the uk it is a fiasco
Both sides of Gibraltar could adopt a system similar to that of Canada, Mexico and The US regarding border towns, SENTRI. In simple terms, it is essentially a verification process used by every day border crossers that scan their RF passes, therefore skipping the inspection lines. Citizens of both countries apply and can help maintain traffic flow with minimal delays, and politically speaking, its one of the viable solutions for ensuring economic flows between the overall EU and UK.
Heres the CBP explanation: “The Secure Electronic Network for Travelers Rapid Inspection (SENTRI) is a U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) program that allows expedited clearance for pre-approved, low-risk travelers upon arrival in the United States” updated Jan 4, 2022.
That’s only for the Mexican border! Not for the Canadian border
CM Fabian Picardo is a perfect blend of eloquence and combativeness
He's miles better than any of the recent UK PMs
You are wrong if you think Spain, which more than three times the size of UK, cares about Gib (which is smaller than golf course Mr. Picardo live near in Linea inside Spain). Spain only gets mad when the Gib gov tries to raise attention by harassing Spanish fishmongers.
@@hus390 "harassing" spanish fishmongers? We stop them from fishing in OUR protected waters. They have all of Spain's waters to fish in, they don't need to fish in the protected zones.
And if Spain doesn't care about Gib that's great! They won't be making any more bitchy complaints about it being British or whinging to the EU and anyone else that will entertain their tantrums that it should be Spanish then.
@@hus390 also there's no golf course in La Linea. The closest one to gib is the San Roque club in Alcaidesa, and Mr Picardo is not resident there, he's resident in Gibraltar (although he may have second homes all over Spain and Portugal).
I love how Gibraltarians
Look like spanish people but speak really british. 😂
They are overcompensating so hard
Also have extremely Spanish surnames with almost comically British first names.
if you're out you're out. northern ireland or gibraltar.
Neither of these places wanted to leave the EU and erect barriers.
@@mobilechikane8574Neither of those places are sovereign states, and that -as we can see- comes with a price.
Just give northern ireland back. It was stolen by a violent invading army. Once stolen always stolen. But then, isnt britains entire wealth based on theft?
@@mobilechikane8574 Of course they did. By screaming about how British they are and not part of Spain (where they would actually have to pay fair taxes), they threw in with the UK and will share their fate.
Just move the Gibraltan border to the mediterranean coast.
Gibraltan people did not vote for brexit, let alone for the extreme brexit measures that the tories are trying to ram through at the border between Gibraltar and Spain.
What is it with UK and its imperialism? Maybe the Belgians should claim a part of England as per history a whole area was once conquered by Belgian tribes.
The overwatch lore is going crazy, they even have BBC covering it.
Chief Minister Fabian Picardo has become very combative in the past year! I can tell, as I’ve followed the negotiations since 2020. He has some charm too 😎
If the Spanish government had enough guts should be implementing the following: 1) aditional taxation to dust collection and recycling (performed currently by Spanish companies), electric supply, water supply, optic fiber internet supply, etc 2) 5€ tax to each and every tourist getting into the colony of Gibraltar from the Spanish side and 100€ to tourists buses, 3) massive inspections to Gibraltarian, British and foreign residents in the neighboring towns to check whether they are paying all necessary taxes to the Spanish Treasury 4) aditional taxes to all those Spanish companies which hire services from Gibraltarian companies 5)prohibition to any company based in Gibraltar to participate in public Spanish tenders 6)massive passport checks to all those crossing the border and eventual temporary closing if necessary. 7)create a zero VAT zone in the centre of La Linea de la Concepción for local retailers, 8)2% companies tax for companies based in La Linea 9) lower IRPF retentions for individuals who refuse to work and pay taxes in Gibraltar 10) enlargement of the Algeciras port if possible, 11) creating industrial zones in the Campo de Gibraltar area 12) special 4 years no taxation and permanent low taxation periods to self-employed workers settled in La Línea, etc
British will simply deny Spain financial services... Spain would fold.
Most of the measures you have just mentioned are illegal by international and European courts. We live in the 21st century and not in the 1800’s anymore. Besides Gibraltar has a state of the art LNG power station and it’s own desalination plant for fresh water
@@James-mr7lm it was illegal under the European Union. It’s no more. Spain and the Eu has the right to block a specific country from its public tenders and apply tarifs.
@@James-mr7lm lol we saw what the UK did to Nord stream 2, what the Houthis done to Saudi oil field and what the Russians done to underwater cables from the shetlands
@@skp8748 those are hostile countries and not done between neighbouring democratic European countries
Please explain how having Spanish Boarder guards at the Gibraltar airport controlling its daily operations, & which individuals are permitted to enter & leave Gibraltar as being insignificant ??
Probably because:
They're both allied.
Spain's current political party that rules over the country has no interest on retaking Gibraltar, only VOX seems to think Gibraltar has to be spanish again.
Who is guarding boarders? No one.
Are you worried about your room in Mr Picardo's house?
Sharon is holding
That Gibraltar minister sounds like a deluded Tory.
I'm a YUUUGE supporter of NATO and a YUUUGE opponent of the EU. BUT, if I was the Spanish PM that border would be shut completely. Time to leave.
I hope they sought it out soon
I don't know
Gibraltar’s chief should go to the doctor, his right eye was bright and refracting light at one point during the interview, it’s better to have it check and ensure it isn’t glaucoma. Minute 8:58
Maybe his a reptilian
Must be the sight of the dead line
I don't understand that video title: 'what will Gibraltar look like post-brexit'. I thought that brexit was done and that you can just look what Gibraltar looks like post-Brexit by going there and and opening your eyes.
brexit is sinking the uk
Contary to what boris johnson says "brexit isn't done" in Gibraltar as he and his government ignored Gibraltar, or maybe didn't give a fxxk about it..
Gibraltar has been operating on a temporary agreement with Spain since the UK officially left the EU. This negotiation is about determining Gibraltar's future relationship with Spain, and hence the EU.
@@Leelee-eu7je
Brexit was certainly never going to be simple the way Johnson and his fanboys claimed It would be.
Brexit was always going to cause the messiest and most severe damage of all in Gibraltar and Northern Ireland, whether it be withdrawal agreement plus trade deal, or No withdrawal agreement and No trade Deal. Northern Ireland and Gibraltar couldn"t just be completely ignored during the brexit process to then blame the EU, Spain and/or Gerry Adams afterwards for why there's such a huge mess with big problems in both Northern Ireland and Gibraltar post brexit day per the way Johnson approached the Brexit negotiating process.
There is STILL no deal: Brexit is a cruel joke.
It's good to watch out for Christmas
Hands off are rock
Brexit means leave so get out - my bet is still on the EU. Good luck you’ll
yep brexit is sinking the uk , my bet is on the EU too
@@peterppp694 Indeed turns out its only the EU have "taken back control" of their borders.
We really are watching britain’s place in the world diminish in real time.. in every way.
There are many advantages for capital
I've been their in my campervan at eurpa point lovely place lovely
British keep playing their colonialist game. That never changed...
I am in Morocco. The Spanish have two enclaves here..one being Ceuta. A proper land border! No one talks about that!!!
Barely anyone that’s actually educated in countries geography’s they wouldn’t care to know
But yh they’ve been apart of Spain for so long it’s just “Spanish now” Essentially dejure land of Spain hopefully one day it returns to Morocco
@@mr.crowgamer6250 You are wrong if you think Spain, which more than three times the size of UK, cares about Gib (which is smaller than golf course Mr. Picardo live near in Linea inside Spain). Spain only gets mad when the Gib gov tries to raise attention by harassing Spanish fishmongers.
@@hus390 Can't help but notice you're trying to hide your anger there Juan. I can tell you very much care about Gibraltar, and like your VOX idols the thought of a Spanish flag above the rock gives you a hard on. Unfortunately for you when it comes to the economy or militaries, I can tell you that Spain is definitely not three times the size of Britain.
@@mr.crowgamer6250 the people in Ceuta and Melilla feel spanish, it's the same with Gibraltar, as long as people feel spanish there it's gonna remain spanish whether you like it or not, we've had that territory for over 400 years and it's gonna remain that way. even more when Morocco lost the hispano-moroccan war in 1860.
I thought brevity was 9ver with ?
But in the next couple of years the UK that Gibraltar clings too may begin to disintegrate might be wise to start getting on with their neighbours better like Northern Ireland and the Falklands may have to accept.
It would be a turn of events if the north was abandoned by the British. Instead of the British army fighting the IRA they'd be under attack from those loyal to the King. 😁
Unfortunatly also Tenerife is much like little UK
Tenerife has nothing to do with the UK. Of course if you don't get out of the touristic guettos you won't notice the difference, but the locals live a different reality and culture to the tourists. They don't seem to be interested in the real Tenerife, they just care for the beach and the cheap alcohol. And I think is better that way.
Gibraltar is like NI, staying in the EU :), Scotland should follow :)
Yup the full balkanisation of the Former United Kingdom is inevitable.
Interesting
4:05 *_Dr Pepper?!!_* I didn't find Dr Pepper while traveling thru the major cities of Europe (or Asia)
I saw Dr. Pepper in the shelves both here in Latvia and in southern Spain.
@@ivario , wow, Latvia too. I didn't see Dr Pepper in Rome, Madrid, Seville, Granada, Paris, London, Brussel, Amsterdam, Frankfurt, Munich...
1000S do cross into Gibraltar for work everyday and NOT each way as mentioned
Exactly. 15000 to be precise. And 11000 of them are Spanish. Gib provides 11,000 jobs to Spain. For a territory of only 30,000 people (who all also have jobs in Gib, not Spain) I think that's quite remarkable.
Gib's strong economy is one of the reasons Gibraltarians want to remain British.
Maybe if Spain were providing Gib jobs and everyone crossed into Spain for work we'd all want to be spanish.
Maybe Spain should focus on making their economy great and then Gib will come to them with open arms? Until then, no deal.
A good number of those thousands coming in are Brits/Gibraltarians who couldn't find a space to live inside Gib. And so live in Lalinea instead.
Also the Gib economy doesn't function without the cross border workers.
And the Gib economy is largely funded by cross border tourism.
So watch your behavior.
@@giftofthewild6665 will be hard to replace those 15000 workers if the border is strict and people need visas. Gib needs the workers as much as the workers need Gib
@@RobertScott-wg1zs that's true but you should know that there will be no problem on the Gib side - we will easily issue the visas to spanish people, we don't need a schengen agreement in place to do so. Our rules on issuing work visas are distinct and separate from UK's.
All the delays at the border are due to the Spanish, not us.
@@giftofthewild6665 What do you grow or manufacture in Gibraltar that provides those jobs to all those Spaniards (that you seem to dislike btw)?
Aw hell nah not Europeans colonising each other🗿
The thing is there was a border and passport checks before brexit ,so nothing has really changed ,,,intresting as I’m actually sitting in Melilla right now that is one of the two Spanish enclaves in Morocco,very similar to Gibraltar
not really since both Ceuta and Melilla have the exact same representation on the Spanish congress and senate as any other autonomous comunity, Gibraltar on the other hand...
@@lordkfc1297 it's an enclave established at the expense of another country.
Whether or not they have representation or not is kinda not the point.
@@totalfreedom2408 Morocco didn’t even exist when both cities were part of Castille(later Spain)
Spanish enclaves in Northern Africa. Not Morocco.
@@totalfreedom2408 At the expense of another country that didn´t exist at that time and that is conformed by nothing but nomads from the desert who arrived several centuries after. They only have the right to claim the piss of the camels.
How did the UK claim Gibraltar as it's territory? Did the past kingdom gift it's land to the former...or was it overthrown and forced to comply?
I don't know but Google says, "First settled by the Moors in the Middle Ages and later ruled by Spain, the outpost was ceded to the British in 1713."
I don't know but if you can post here, you can do a search on any search engine and find every nuance to the territory.
It was an Anglo-Dutch invasion (1704) because the upper classes of Britain liked to interfere in another country's choice of King. They then exiled the original population, whose descendants still live in the nearby town of San Roque.
The British most likely stole it from Spain, just like they stole from everyone else.
Basically a war between Spain and England, as part of a treaty to end the war Spain would give Gibraltar to the UK
@@thwales2520it wasn’t a war between Spain and Britain, it was a Spanish civil war where Britain took the control illegally of Gibraltar.
It's time to return Gibraltar to Spain! (I'm from Portugal)
Maybe the Azores should be independent.
@@hfe590 Not the same thing...
Time for Spain to leave their African colonies
@@vaxfiles9529 I agree, Ceuta e Mellilla.
maybe Cymru / Wales being england's first 'colony should return to the true Britons - not the Germanic english ;-)
This is where history meets technology. Can't they just use some kind of swipe card/token system (like the metro or train systems) even if there is to be border checks? Should at least cut down the time to get through, even though the legal problems (eg border guards etc) still exist.
The system is already in place (the same automatic recognition system they use in airports with scannable passports) but the Spaniards deliberately slow down the border to create a problem for us.
Also we have had border & customs guards this whole time. There's no reason they cannot continue on as they have been doing except that Spain want to use the opportunity to coerce Gibraltar into becoming Spanish.
if it was that simple we would have done it already but not every country in the world is rich enough to buy highly secured systems to process these details; plus, then you have to worry about undocumented people or visitors
Well, then we can have undersired immigrants entering Gibraltar hidden in the boot of a car.
Theoretically, they can travel to UK then without any border checks. If there were border checks between Gibraltar and UK, that would be game over for the Brexiteers.
@@giftofthewild6665 Gibraltar had cross-border customs checks for goods when the UK was an EU member and part of the Schengen?
@@Robert-hz9bj Yes Gibraltar had cross border customs checks. We have a spanish customs on the spain side and a gibraltar customs on the Gibraltar side. It was always treated as a third country for import / export of goods. The only reason it's a problem now is because spain are manufacturing a problem in order to force us into this deal.
UK was never schengen, so Gibraltar was never part of schengen.
Since we existed outside of schengen (and all customs agreements) for so long and it was apparently fine, why now do we need to join schengen? I'd personally prefer we don't join schengen. I don't want an open border with spain and neither do many Gibraltarians.
"I'm a politician. I tell it as it is"
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Well that's the biggest load of BS I've heard in a Loooong time!
I lived in Gibraltar briefly. Spiritually Gibbos are a lot closer to UK Brexiters. Ironic, though pragmatically understandable, then that they voted overwhelmingly to Remain
Do Brexiteers have a spirit though?
Gibraltar will look as it always does, magnificent. ❤️🙂
Until the rock falls
@@Sam_Guevenne Dear Sam I dont think any of us will be around to witness that.
It leaves Europe with Britain 😂
It'll look the same, that rocks too big to move
I’ll give it another three years to see better results 😢😢
I see, now the shit is hitting the fan, Picardo is a very pragmatic man 😂
That place it's growing in Spanish territory....that's the true
Y debéis devolvérnoslo
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The prime minister of Gibraltar seems kind of insufferable ngl
Give it another couple of years and see which way the money flows...
We need this man as our next PM he’s down to earth and a no drama nan
I would move there tomorrow if given the chance great place.
Ironically they love British tourists but hate Brit expats in Gibraltar. People like you drive up their housing prices and cost of living!!
I actually live in Gibraltar and the houses there are extremely expensive!! Apartments can be 800K+ and a two story house is over 2Million!
@@HatsuneMiku668 yes those are open market prices. The 3+ years resident market is much more affordable as is government housing.
@@HatsuneMiku668 does this place belong to muslims right
@@aerokasyeal4840 no it doesn't. It belongs to the UK and ran by gibraltarians, But we do have a large population of Moroccans, Jews, Spanish, English etc... What are you trying to get at?
Is that the same Jimmy Savile Newsnight?
jose is correct, listen to jose 👌
Want to stay British? Pay your taxes like the rest of us! Freeloaders🤨
It's time to make tough border controls. Gibraltar it's a non EU territory and deserves to be treated as such.
The UK has claimed more land than it was decided in the original cease fire.
Queremos que nos devolváis lo que nos pertenece invasores
Went there for two days. Bit of a 'meh' novelty
Just another tax haven
Quite ironic since Spain still retains cities in mainland Africa
Those cities have been under Iberian and Catholic rule longer than Istanbul has been Turkish and there’s a lot of shared history because of the proximity. You can see Ceuta from mainland Spain. It’s just not the same.
Also the canary islands
Any time you mention this to a Spaniard they fail to see the hypocrisy and say "it's not the same."
@@a-aron5405 I thought Spain is a secular country
@@homyce It is, I say Catholic because Ceuta and Melilla are Catholic.
3:40 oh great the focus on the journalist... and not what he shows 🙄
So, they don't mind Brexit that much on Gibraltar, as long as it doesn't affect them?
Maybe that's an option for the UK as well then?
Brexthick has been such a stunning success.
If only people from England were as patriotic. Lol
well said, we do not even celebrate saint gorges day,
@@daveberry2177 St George is celebrated all over Europe. It's weird that you picked him.
Why not pick a saint from...Britain?
@@starvictory7079 hi i picked him as i am sure he is our patron saint, english folk just do not seem that patriotic, what saint would you suggest, many thanks
@@daveberry2177 My point was St George is celebrated in Europe as a whole.
Britain should pick a saint that actually came from Britain.
@@starvictory7079 thats true, many thanks
You should give back to others what is rightfully theirs. Spain
british oversea territories so interesting to me! please make more videos on this subject
No mention of the number of Spanish working in Gibraltar, no mention of border queues.
Or vice versa. I'm sure most Gibraltan's work in Spain too
11,000 spanish work in Gibraltar because they cannot find jobs in Spain.
@@DaRkLoRd-rc5yu no they don't. No Gibraltarians work in Spain. Gibraltar has a surplus of jobs. Spain pays less and taxes more, why would any of us work in Spain?
We do spend our money in Spain. To the point where many spanish businesses near Gib would collapse if their Gib clients were prevented from going. It's not uncommon to go to restaurants near Gib on the weekends, and half or more than half of the customers are Gibraltarians. Gib's prosperity enriches the whole area.
Yeah queues at borders and airports happen all the time due to loads of factors lack of staff incompetence or just it’s busy
@@giftofthewild6665 Gibraltar lives off Spanish tourists and shady stuff like smuggling and money laundering. You actually need Spain way more than we need you.
strange place years ago, understanding gibberish is hard
What a mess - inflicted on both Gibraltar and Northern Ireland
just totally isolate them and make it become just a rock again
Welcome to brexit.