Arsene Wenger on why Arsenal have struggled for league titles
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Arsene Wenger discussing the reasons why Arsenal haven't been able to win a Premier League title since the Invincibles in 2004.
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Wenger, after 2004 until his departure, probably overachieved given the resources he had. As a United fan, it pains me to say it but he was an incredible manager and a top man! Who knows what he could have achieved elsewhere.
He completely overachieved look how far the club went down for emery and Arteta when wenger left the fact he got that team top 4 before he left is mind boggling probably the worst arsenal side in 20+ years
@@daquaviousbingleton9763 spot on!
@@GreatBritishMexican we were literally the first big 6 club to become a banter club this era and it looks like Tottenham and Chelsea are going that way when Harry Kane leaves and with Todd bohely as an owner
What resources did he have? No way Van Persie leaves if we had "resources". Wenger operated on a tighter budget compared to Ferguson.
Trolling here. Arsenal are TOP. Trolls.
Imagine selling your best players literally every single year, largely to YOUR RIVALS. Vieira, CAshley Cole, Fabregas, Nasri, Clichy, Sagna, Adebayor, Toure, Hleb, Ramsey, Sanchez, van Persie, Alex Song, Vermaelen, even Henry. He did the best with what he could. Still managed to play one of the most beautiful football in Europe, churned out talent after talent for the football world, unlucky not many trophies in that time but I wouldn't change a thing going back 20 years. The new stadium was a major financial setback but it's the foundation for the more ambitious future.
Fr, people don’t understand the struggle
Chelsea literally do the same thing.
You could make a premier league winning team with the players sold.
@@SuperBuds Ok, name it. And then see how many actually did much at Chelsea or were still in their prime when sold.
Wenger set us back. Fans like you who are happy to go decades without a major title should go support bottlenham with your small club mindset.
@@NextSeasonFCfan But you have gone decades without a major title and you still support them?
The misery of Arsenal is the joy of Sky sports.
Especially the admin of this channel
prob a Spurs fan
@@GeorgeLista nah they make fun of spurs all the time
Arsenal fans a bit edgy these days 😂😂 ready to play victim already
Yup, I totally agree
Arsene has gone for the strawman. His stubbornness was the biggest factor. His primary motivation at times was to prove critics wrong - e.g., that he could win the league without a proper holding midfielder or goalkeeper. Especially between 2006 and 2011 or so, it wasn't like a full-blown overhaul was necessary. It was just a case of one or two missing parts. They win the league in 2008 with a better goalkeeper than Manuel Almunia. The only proper holding midfielder they've had since Vieira and Gilberto is Thomas Partey. There was a season that one good central defender cost them - that season that Chris Samba was mentioned a lot. I never once thought the drought was a money/investment issue. It was down to Wenger being utterly stubborn.
I agree. The obsession with aesthetics and a great headline in the papers, full-time, was a bit over the top.
The lack of European trophies is even worse. Not that they were Winning the Champions league, going out in the Last 16 however, in the last decade.
If only Lehmann didn't get sent off or Henry missing some big chances...
@ddaavviidd or Bergkamp playing. Uefalona were always going to make sure they won no matter what as they are corrupt. Lehmann shouldn't have been sent off and their goal shouldve stood.
dont worry u have the inter cities fairs cup way better than the ucl 👍
@@pollos1 and European cup winners😁
@@ddaavviidd3975 no they dont but they do have the cup winners cup as well 👍
Two frenchmen talkin in english. Is it a joke or what. By the way massive love and respect to them. Arsenal forever. Merci bokue. 😂❤
Henry was being paid by an English language broadcaster to conduct an interview for broadcast in the UK.
Also english is much better than french obviously. If you know english then why speak french?
Yes corectly. You have a reason.
Incoming comments about the admin's timing about Arsenal
They discussing like they already won it this year lmao
A new stadium costs Arsenal lots of chance to win titles. I don't think so. Our determination is not enough. We're so content with "Fourth is a trophy" but we forget we should position ourselves as title contender. It hurts me because we become less competitive in the matches against other title contenders.
Never should have left highbury
All fine saying that in hindsight.
Staying at Highbury wouldn’t have changed anything imo. I don’t get why people think the stadium you play in has anything to do with success
@@R3NEGADE7 because their board then got an excuse for not spending money because of paying out stadium etc. etc. plus it was much easier to make a hostile atmosphere at highbury due to the way stadium was designed they could just make stands bigger or something like that there was no reason to smash down the whole stadium
@@R3NEGADE7 going to the emirates left arsenal with no money due to poor planning if they build up more money first before buiding the stadium arsenal could have won more
@@R3NEGADE7exactly i tell people this all the time,people are talking with emotions/nostalgia when they come out with that line Highbury was outdated we couldn’t improved the capacity there was no space plus two of the stands were listed I miss but it was time to moved if we stayed at Highbury we would of been worse than we have been in the last decade especially financially
Easy… didn’t spend. When we did spend it was on the wrong players… when we did buy the right players we didn’t buy cover for them in case they got injured… and city + Chelsea blew everyone out the water
Take this in!
As a 70s Dutch rally fan, this is interesting
A necessary conversation
Many people will never understand the work involved behind the scene of rebuilding a new stadium as well in its financial burden aspect while also keeping the team afloat, if Wenger have left during the period, Arsenal will probably fall into pothole and will take very long to climb back to be even competing not mentioning clinching the title. It’s the love for Arsenal that keep Arsene in it for so long. He could have left and just focus on winning for other team.
Just look at what Valencia are going through right now if arsenal never built the stadium the space would have not been available and it would have been near a billion to built a new stadium in today's Market.
Arsenal could easily borrow 300 million to buy players because stadium is almost paid for
The main reason we struggled under Arsene was $$$
He Wenger was stubborn he was the one to blame.
The Boss
Prof has spoken thanks Mr wenger.
Fun fact, apart from the City, Utd and Chelsea, Arsenal have the most EPL titles!! Arsenal deserve a lot more respect from fans of rival tin-pot clubs.
Man U and Liverpool only have more. City and Chelsea have a lot less.
Man u - 20
Liverpool - 19
Arsenal - 13
Everton - 9
City - 8
Villa - 7
Sunderland - 6
Chelsea - 6
@@jamesritchie3562 I’m only talking about Premier league titles. You might want to adjust those numbers if you take FA cups into the equation.
@@afcfan9310 ahhhh, okay. Those numbers are top flight titles since records began.
As a non arsenal supporter, I am starting to have a better appreciation for Arsene Wenger. However, I felt he could have even more if he just spent more expereinced players rather than rely only on youth. That and the fact that he was too dogmatic and in-flexible/adaptable.
He is being restricted
SoHave sky sports put this video up because arsenal have blown the league this season in the last two weeks then now🤣
stop blaming the stadium. it was lack of ambition from arsenal and you were a major cog in that. it was your fault... compare and contrast with man united... who carried on investing and doubled in size as we just went down down down.
This is the same guy (Wenger) who said Arsenal will win the title this year. Now he is analyzing why they would not. Comedy
He has to say that even though he knew the reality. That's how you save your job.
Retro admin is cooking North London today
Lol clearly he said other owners were more ambitious 😭😭😭😭😭
Should have stayed at Highbury
Because we don't have Good Owners... I don't trust Kroenkes aswell
Arsenal already have 3 Premier league titles whereas Bottleham Coldspursy(excuse the cringe) have ZERO and lost out to Leicester when all the big teams struggled that season.
spurs rent free in ur head
Arsenal have 3 titles?
@@DRAGGOFFICIAL Premier League yeah.
(@@marccutirella you like your own comments, need i say anymore.)
You do realise Arsenal lost out on the title that year also because of dinosaur Wenger.
If you had a proper manager that year you would have won it by a canter
Cant believe this guy refused to sign cr7😂😂just because his family wanted them to get them a house in england😂😂
He never refused
The talk took long enough for United to sweep him with the help of mendes who convinced ronaldo to join United
Two French people speaking in English. How weird for them to feel LOL
Because you are specialist in failure 🤣🤣
Source Mourinho
One of the greatest manager of all time
Wenger left the club in an absolute MESS! All because of his Ego! He was like Despot in the end....He should have left after his initial 10 years.
Arsenal were lucky the league wasnt as competitive from say 2007 to 2014 when they werent spending or winning trophies, because if it was as competitive as it is now they would have been in trouble.
Money cant buy glory
It’s a 5 second interview all he has to say is ‘myself’
Still not willing to admit his own stubbornness and refusal to buy in top class central defenders and holding midfield players like Viera, G. Silva, Campbell and co as a contributing factor...
Bro did you watch the video? wenger literally said arsenal didn't have money to buy top class player.
@@naimiman2407 he signed Ozil, aubameyang, lacazaette. All big money signings
@@d.s5508 again, learn how to watch the vid. Most of the clubs money went to building the stadium, every “big transfer” you mentioned came in after they finished paying for the emirates
@@d.s5508 By the time those players came in, none of those fees could be considered "big money signings". And there's a huge difference between making one marguee signing every year or two and being able to revamp an entire squad like Chelsea or Utd could do.
@@sammywoj7924 but i thought they were owned by American billionaire with deep pockets ? He could afford it all.
Man Utd & SAF.
he was sitting back taking the 2million pay rise while we continued to fall. He seemed more bothered about finding some young kid in the middle of nowhere than winning things in the end
Yeah, your argument makes a lot of sense and looks very mature
He milked 100m plus in wages for doing nothing other than finishing 4th and calling it a trophy.
Absolute fraud he was
@@martinoa1467 Truth hurts bud
@@martinoa1467it's the truth
@@martinoa1467Leicester won the league if Leicester can win the league that puts all arsenal excuses out the window the fact Leicester won it
Arsenal are only a major player because of the fanbase, miles behind the juggernauts in heritage, nobody in Europe ever took them seriously
We knocked out some mighty Juventus and Madrid clubs at our European peak including winning at the bernebeau . Post highbury era we flatlined even when we got to the CL getting knocked out by the likes of Monaco and Dortmund if it wasn’t Barca or Bayern . This time there is something different in the air especially with the financial might of the PL. You just have to look at 2 of the clubs that made this years SF to realise that.
@@MeTaLMoNkEyLeYrOy i repeat arsenal have always and will be a joke in europe, one semi and one final in your history. Arsenal ain't even in the top ten European heritage list, napoli inter ac athletico etc all these insignificant guys are miles ahead of you in European heritage
1) Lack of Spanish or Portuguese talent in the club. Get more guys like Arteta, Fabregas, Reyes in the club from Spain.
2) May be a good manager like Mourinho is missed.
3) We only used to hire French talent back in Arsene Wenger days. Thats gotta change sooner or later.
4) The club also has a tradition of losing players Ashley Cole to Chelsea, Adebayor to City, Van Persie to United.
5) The club doesn't do well under pressure and has lot of young talent. When you are under pressure you should reach out to help. You should figure out your best mates and be open to them that is the only way to manage pressure.
6) They should hire players who have strong personality and good behavior like Sol Campbell, Fabregas and Robert Pires who have been in the invincibles. The Chamakh, Wilshere and Walcott days back in 2012 was also a good period where we can look to get some inspiration
Get more guys like Arteta? No lol, keep them as far away as possible thanks. Get more guys like Patrick Vieira.
If Henry finished those chances you wouldn't be saying all that
@@patchh15 Vieira isn't even a forward. He picked up lots of Red cards and fights with other players. He is a must avoid in Arsenal and English football.
@@sujitprabhakaran9886 A world Class midfielder who helped Arsenal win 3 premier leagues and captained 1 of them to an invincible title and also 4 fa cups is a must avoid.😂
North London has two clubs that are the absolute kings of bottle jobs. 25 years of properly following english football, and arsenal have been synonymous with some monumental bottle jobs! From losing to kebab fc in a european final, to Henry bottling many chances vs Barcelona, gallas sitting on the pitch, losing to Birmingham in a league cup final etc etc. I do hope they win the league this season though.
yeah also bottling top 4 like last year and probs the title this year
What you said sounds nice, but isn't based on reality. Arsenal are leagues ahead of Tottenham and also were a TOP TOP European team for a very long time. A short blip, but now already back.
@@Sherif_Yehia but still Arsenal are a bottlejob club
That is simply untrue. There's a whole big period there, like the first 13 years of the league, where they had no connection to bottling anything. The exact opposite in fact.
@@Sherif_Yehia very true
😂😂😂
We struggled for league titles because you sold all of our best player let decent players go for free. And then had the cheek to say finishing 4th was acceptable 😅
Two french speaking English to each other. Humiliation!
and furthermore completely haphazard terrible recruitment which lasted for wanglers last 10 years and left arsenal with a team full of overpaid dross.
City winning three in a row incoming
🏆💙
@@Anthony-pw5gu you must be one of the 20 man city fans that will get to celebrate the title
@@PapitochiToo good one... Only heard that a thousand times already
@@Anthony-pw5gu doesnt change the fact ur a plastic
@@PapitochiToo One of the most boring jokes city fans have to hear, Theres thousands of people supporting teams in leagues way below the premier league but somehow there just can't be anyone out there that supports city before the money came in, are you going to say the same about newcastle aswell if they have success in the future?
Specialist in failure 😂
Specialist in failure
The brainwasher
wenger glorified finishing inside top 4 trophyless and their fans bought it as the gospel , and spurs fans being in the vicinity bought it as well cz it suited them and bald levy just fine
Cause that was the owners objectives for years, get top 4 and Wenger was guiding the club through transition. They were the 8th highest spenders between 2006-2012 and they had the best net spend out of the top 25 highest spenders in the world. That shows you what their priorities were.
Arsenal really should’ve dropped out of the top 4 way sooner than they did. Even between 2013-2018 they were 5th highest spenders. So that’s 12 seasons where they were hitting above expectation on paper.
@@jgooner894 that's exactly what arseanal fans have become... having this clubs' financial knowledge has become somewhat of a priority (subsconsciously i think) for the fans rather than what matters on the pitch and therefore they have been using this knowledge to cope with the failings on the pitch..
This financial jargon is what keeps the fans especially the epl fans accept mediocrity
Atletico Madrid won the league despite the hegemony of Madrid & barca
@@imneverwrongsometimestruthlies Just giving you the facts. If their investment doesn’t match what fans expect, should they keep expecting the same thing and putting them on the same playing field as the likes of Chelsea, United and City at the time? Athletico’s trophy record compared to Madrid and Barca doesn’t stack up at all so surely that’s an off comparison. Arsenal won 4 FA Cups between 2014 and 2020, doesn’t mean they’re good enough to win consistent titles.
Because they’re chokers
Because you are the specialist in failure. Mourinho did with United in 3 seasons what Wenger couldn't do with Arsenal in 15 years.
A) No Arsene, you didn't "create that level of expectation" - Arsenal had massive history winning Titles & were always the 3rd biggest club in the country before you even joined.
B) The main contributing factor was you got completely surpassed in the modern game while being unable to organise a defence to save your life.
LOL Thank you PatrickJ for telling Arsenal legend Arsene Wenger why couldn't compete. A random dude commenting on CZcams obviously knows more than the man himself
@@patrickbateman882if arsene knew better why didn’t he do better
@@josephosullivan7506 He literally says in the video, dude. Financial restrictions and other teams getting billionaire owners willing to spend big
Arsenal are not even top 5 clubs in England.
@@ferndale6652 who's the 5 clubs bigger than us then?
We didn't win because of Wenger allowing mediocrity to be the new standard of the club. For this Wenger is our worst manager.
Get outa here kid
@@arster2935 you are a newborn if you think otherwise
@@arster2935I know the truth hurts
We brought in some class players like Alexis and Ozil and some shrewd buys like Cazorla. I blame a huge part of the downfall on Gazidis as well always got to hold those tenures jointly accountable . Wenger put us in a great financial position and his hands became more tied near to the end as they tried to soften the blow of his handover. Ironically the power models of club hierarchy’s has shifted a lot now since the Fergie and Wenger days and what a mess United had become also , clubs like Chavski trying to find an identity and recruiting ‘yes man ‘ coaches . You have former arsenal players who know of the arsenal values in high places Edu , Arteta , Mertesacker and Wilshere . It makes a big change from hiring crooks with super agent friends as ‘director of football ‘ types , or blindly recruiting players based on a data algorithm without considering if they are right for the club .
Our? Your name shows you ain’t an Arsenal fan