Offroad Adventure Boots: selecting the best ADV boot for you
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- čas přidán 10. 07. 2023
- Made for riders joining me for training, this is a tutorial on how to identify and select a proper ADV (Adventure) riding boot for actual offroad and off pavement riding.
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Listen up new riders: the information Bret gives here is GOLD. I say that after a right ankle fracture, and later a left tibial fracture. WEAR PROPER BOOTS.
Couldn’t agree more.
I fractured my ankles wear an adventure boot - no ankle protection at the start of off-road riding.
Since then, I got Tech 7 alpinestar. Falling many times since. Ankle 👌. Also expensive lessen for me too.
@@emker7772 yes mate, adventure boots are a joke. I’ve got Tech sevens as well for when I start riding again.
Great video always enjoy your information. What kind of kneepads would you recommend the ones I have go down into the boot and cover my shin. Wondering if the boots are too loose and not get the side-by-side or twisting support. But they are double articulating, which makes them comfortable to sit and stand back up. Thank you for the awesome videos.
to be fair, insurance can buy good boots AFTER you break some bones 😀
Tech 7s for me. Long story short, I went down...rolling in road.... guy behind me riding a DRZ400 runs over my leg. He ran over the top part of my boot. Leg hurt but no broken bones. Last year one guy in our group was wearing work boots riding in CO. He broke his foot on Ophir Pass when his bike starting tipping over and the peg landed square on the top of his foot when he tried to save it. Now, we won't take anybody off pavement without full on boots. Lesson learned.
Came here after breaking my foot while dropping my bike on top of it while wearing touring boots. Looking for some more protection for the stupid mistakes we all make time to time. Thank you for your great video again
I purchased my first off-road (ADV) bike about a year ago. I knew nothing about gear for ADV riding. Went to the dealer and purchased some Forma Adventure slippers because they were so comfortable. Then I started reading about guys with all kinds of foot/ankle/leg injuries while wearing "Adventure" boots. I didn't even know "MX" boots were an option until I saw one of your earlier videos on boots. I immediately went out and purchased the Sidi CF 3s and now only wear those when riding my ADV bike, even if it is "just a gravel road." Thank you.
I'm sitting here watching this while recovering from a broken ankle I got while wearing my Forma "Adventure" Low boots. Wish this video was out and I saw it 6 months ago...
Hope you'll be back on the bike soon - had a similar experience with Forma ADV Tourer, which might be even softer. Luckily I was not fast and only hit the toes quite hard.
What would you have changed? I´m watching this now, regarding your comment, and I still might prefer a low cut boot... It´s not gonna happen to me, right? Well, to be true, I don´t really ride that hard either. If I was doing a lot of single track, I´d go for a stiffer boot. But there´s really a lot of personal preferences here! What matters to me, is do I have friends around or not?
The single most important thing: will anyone miss you if you lag behind? Time is important with most injuries, so when riding alone, I hardly ride gravel roads, let alone offroad tracks. (I live in Norway, so it might be a week or more until somebody comes around). Also, I think leg injuries are a lot different to head injuries. Skulls should not fracture at all, that is bad. How bad is it when a leg fractures? Will a twisting fracture be worse than a clean snap in either direction? How high up your leg do you want that fracture? Would you rather keep your leg intact and sacrifice a knee? Well, I just think there is a world of options for us to bust our knuckles. I know for sure that I want any fracture to appear away from my joints. Because fixing those are complicated at best, but often not doable.
Still recovering from a minor ankle fracture, the bike's rear brake pedal went through my high cut riding leather boots. Still got injured but i think the high cut boots helped
I ride with same boots….Japan mountain roads are gravel and rocks…I’ve washed out with no issues on the Forma low…but having shin guards and knee protection…
@@olenilsen4660 That's a good question. 6 months ago if I had watched this I very well might still have bought the low cut boot as a calculated risk because...
1) I don't ride MX
2) I ride a "small", "lightweight" CRF300L
3) I want to be comfortable
4) It'll never happen to me right?
I clean snapped my right fibula in an ADV clinic when I skid the rear wheel and lost it at low speed when coming to a stop on some slick grass. True, a more experienced rider would've avoided that fall altogether. I figure if I was wearing a true enduro or dirt boot though, maybe I would've ended up with just an ankle sprain or a minor fracture instead. The way I look at it in hindsight is the simplest of falls is all it takes and riding on anything that isn't pavement is going to increase the likelihood of "laying er' down". I'll be riding with enduro/dirt boots anytime I plan on going off-pavement from now on.
Your question about how high up the leg do you want that fracture is something I've thought about though and it does have me wondering if @BretTkacs has any thoughts on this. @BretTkacs do think taller boots increase lower leg protection at the potential expense of your knees?
Brian at Atomic Moto is where I buy my boots too.
Very helpful and he can recommend what will work best for you.
Great video Bret.
As Brett points out here, if you are standing off road that full steel shank makes such a difference in stability and control as well as it seems you are standing on full footboards instead of pegs. The ability to stand for long periods quite easily WITH the protection you need. At the end of the day you will really notice the difference in your legs. You can actually enjoy walking around after a long and challenging ride! If I am just cruisin' on the hwy my ADV bike to see sights then my road oriented boots are fine. Off road needs true off road boots as said here. You are banging off road and need that protection. Being sidelined with foot/leg injuries is just terrible.
I'm incredibly grateful that I watched some of Bret's (and others') videos on this subject *before* I started venturing off-pavement. On my very first outing, I ended up with an Africa Twin and its luggage on top of my foot, on a dirt road halfway up Palomar mountain. Because I listened to the experts and went with MX boots (and soft luggage!) I was able to continue my trip with nothing worse than a busted turn signal and a slightly sore ankle. My Tech-3's did their job. I upgraded anyway!
Had an off-road get off in the catskills, where I landed 60 feet downhill onto a pile of river rock. A blind curve loaded with road salt didn't help. BmwR1200rs landed on my ankles and pinned me. Was wearing Alpinestars premium Supertech R boots. Absolutely no damage to my feet. Even though a road racing boot, they kept my ankles from being crushed. You actually do get what you pay for. Listen to Bret! Stay away from the marketing hype and do your research.
SIDI BOOTS freaking save me from what could have been a nasty foot injury
Thanks Bret - all great points to consider. I need two new pairs of boots! 👌🏼
Bret, I always hoped to find an offroad boot that had a tang sticking out of the sole to the inside of the big toe. I find that I always want to shift with the edge of the sole - so I don't need to torque the boot forward to get under the shifter and back to get over. A funny little tang sticking out an extra 1/4" next to the big toe would engage the shifter perfectly - and make for minimal foot movement in technical terrain!
Such incredibly important information. You are making men and women riding so much safer with each video. Just letting you know, you really are hitting your goal with every upload!
I switched up my off road selection based on your advice a couple of years ago. Comfort used to be my goal and I have learned to sacrifice a little bit of comfort in order to secure a significant amount of safety. It took a bit of getting used to but I am happy with the changeover.
I really believe you can have both these day's, my Forma Predators 2.0s are bullet proof as far as protection goes and are the most comfortable boot I've worn.
Hey Bret! Another Great Video!
I'm so thankful for your earlier Boots Videos, as I went straight for an Enduro style Boot. Your Training is Top Notch and It is highly recommend! My Boots Saved me a TON! And continue to do so! THANK YOU for all your non biased reviews!
Lots of GREAT technical info and advice here Brett, broken down and clearly relayed. You're providing a huge benefit to ADV riders with this kind of education, something the industry is lacking. Especially like what you say in the segment starting at 11:10.....worth replaying!!
Compliments!!
This is some great info! I learned the hard way that ankle injuries can really take a long time to heal after one bad fall left me with Chronic Ankle Instability which took years to mostly recover from.
Very informative - broke my leg in two places a year ago - tibia and fibula - wearing touring boots - slow speed crash. Just ordered the Crossfire's. Thank you.
I'm 47. I've been off road/mx and Enduro for 41 years. Was running when I was younger man in top 5 in national Enduro. My go to boot for performance and price is the Alpine star tech 7.. I've recently purchased an adventure bike and will keep running those boots. Also it's my first road registered motorcycle. So I'm learning that too.
Thanks for being to the point. Great explanation.
Thanks Bret for another great video. Great food for thought.
I chose security over comfort since I crushed my foot last time. Every damn time I meet other bikers I hear the "oh, squeaky squeaky that must suck". Well, I wish to keep in one piece.
Bought the Tech 7s after watching an older video. During my first ride with them, I hated them but then after 5-6 rides got used to them and now love them.
Thanks for all your efforts and the hat transition from the helmet 😮.
I initially bought a pair of proper competition level MX boots but they were cumbersome. I was on the lookout for something else. So after a lot of research I decided to buy the
Touratech Destino. Cleats at the bottom, almost every part replaceable, Toe protection, shin guard, three aluminium buckles, and some ankle protection. Have to size up to get a good fit.
One of my requirements was waterproof.
Get this, it comes with an inner shoe which is waterproof. The boots have a steel belt built in the boot, right in the top buckle. So you can lock your outer boots to the bike and just walk around/go sightseeing with the inner boots. Has a suede grip pad where they make contact with the bike.
Keep doing your thing!
Cheers
Edit: typo
Great info Bret, Thanks
Congratulations from Brazil!
Excellent video!
The information is very good and will help beginners and experienced riders alike!
Another great video. I have friends that are getting into adv riding and I can’t stress to them enough about getting good boots. I have so many boots for different reasons. On my recent trip to Alaska I used the SIDI adventure. Needed a compromise between protection and comfort and waterproofing.
I own and use both the Forma Adventure and Alpinestar tec 3. I always always wear my tec 3 off road. I only use my formas on road. I recently had my foot taken off my peg in a rut and dragged under my center stand. Had I have been wearing my Forma adventures, I certainly would have busted my ankle/foot. My tec 3 did their job and protected me. What Bret says here is true to form and some of the best free advice you can get anywhere. Keep en coming my man. Keep em coming.
Great information! I especially like the part when you mention how important it is to find for limits when riding. I always like to say “find your limits and train past them”.👍🏻
I went down hard (my fault) 6/25. I suffered a clean, non-displaced fracture of my fibula at the ankle. I also broke my left second metacarpal, but that was a bit of a fluke. I was able to ride the 20 miles to the ER and walk in the door. My fracture should heal in 5 weeks with no cast, no surgery. I was wearing Sidi X-3s. They saved my ankle from a a much worse injury. With those low cut boots, I would have had floppy foot, needed an ambulance to get out, needed to figure out how to get my bike out, needed surgery, and more like 5 months of recovery. On the WYBDR last year, I encountered a rider wearing light hiking boots. No effing way. Buy and wear real dirt boots, folks.
Thanks. Have learnt a lot by watching your videos and of course practising.
As someone that's starting to go off-road, this is great info. I had my first off-road experience a few days ago and I went with my normal riding boots, but I was already looking for decent off-road boots. Now I know what to look for.
600 dollar boots that last 5 years are better than 300 dollar boots and a trip to the ER.
Buy once, spend for top of the line, and then just know you won't break your feet off road. It's a no brainer from me and I ride SIDI Crossfire 3s.
Coincidentally, when I re-entered off road riding on my dual sport 5 years ago with the intent to ride the MABDR, I called Atomic-Moto (and may even have spoken to the guy you mentioned). I was leaning towards the brown Forma adventure boot but when he found out that my main iterest was offroad, the Atomic-Moto guy immediately steered me to the Sidi X-3 MX boot. I have to say that it felt weird at first not being able to feel the shift or rear brake levers, but I quickly got used to it and it became second nature. Your analysis is spot on and those boots certainly do enhance my confidence and feeling of control and safety. Great video.
Gaerne Fastback Endurance. Coming from RST Raid boot is like discovering the driving once more. Diferent world. No flex at all in midsole.
Thanks buddy! I run with Alpinestars Tech 7 Drystar, love them. Saved me on some occasions. Only downside is - hot as hell in summer. This video provided me with very useful information. Food for thought! I will be looking differently for my next purchase, thanks to you.
Mine only keep the rain outside for 2 ouers 🤔 i now ! Its not Gore tex, But still…….
Thanks Bret. A very useful discussion.
I fully agree with that!
Good boots are one of the important stuff for a motorcycle tour. I'm currently in Turkey and we do a lot of street tour but sometimes we have gravel and it makes me feel save to wear the Sidi Crossfire. When i know i will do a 100% street tour i wear my Alpinestars Tucan. The sidi i have now for about 5 years and they protect me on about 100tkm. Still good, no problems! I wear Jacket a Alpinestars Halo, trousers is revit canyon - for Turkey and for me a really good combination. We had temperatures from 12° up to 35° Celsius.
Lets see how it works in Georgia!
Thanks for this nice video!
Ride safe!
Because of an earlier video by you on that topic I already replaced my Toucans with Gaerne SG22. The break-in was brutal, but now they fit snug and I feel really comfortable on the bike.
So thank you for making these videos. They make a difference. ❤
I also got myself knee braces and a lighter bike (701). Enduro traveling is now much more fun. 😃
What's wrong with the toucans. There's also a good boot.
Very nice, love my SG 12 and now new SG22 looks excellent, awesome explanations why really people should upgrade, cheers V!
Great video! It's really hard to explain these differences because "adventure" boots visually look so similar to proper off-road boots. It's when you actually have them in your hands that you notice the difference. I always tell people to put the boots on, then stomp on one with the other. If your foot hurts from that, imagine what a 200+lb of pointy metal falling on it will do.
For what it's worth, my Gaerne SG12 boots are some of the most comfortable footwear I have. Once you get used to the dimensions and a bit of extra weight, it's seamless, especially on the bike. I can spend 12 hours in it without the slightest bit of discomfort. The level or protection is crazy too. One of my favorite anecdotes is how riders use their boots for traction at a hard enduro - by sticking the toes under the dirtbike tires.
Very informative video. Thank you, ✌🏻
As a new ADV rider I went down and got my leg caught under my hard pannier. My "Adventure" boots let my ankle twist so far it resulted in a torus (or twist) fracture of the left fibula. Before I could even ride again I got a pair of Sidi Crossfire 3s and swapped the panniers to soft bags. The mistake I'd made was cost and comfort. The Adventure boots felt great and I was saving money by not stepping up to full "Dirt" boots. Turns out medical bills are quite a bit more than the cost of good boots.
Rough story
Just did Cleman mountain plus all of section 3 of the WABDR this week. My right ankle is pretty sore at the moment, but not broken. This despite having my right leg being trapped under the bike 3 times in two days. All thanks to the Tech 7s I bought after watching this video!
Thank you. Great Video
I like my Forma Adventure boots, made in Romania. Saved my ankles from breaking from heavy impact twice. They may not be the most protective but they are really comfortable and you can walk comfortably in them. I can operate the controls on my BMW R1150GS ADV and feel them. Shifting and braking with confidence and control are important to me and these boots allow that.
I tried a pair of Forma Adventures. Wasn’t long before my bedroom slippers had more protection and support. So I went back to my Gaerne Balance Oiled on my V-Strom. (Gravel is as off-road as I ever get on a big bike.) I also have a pair of Klim Outlanders to try for street use. For true off-road on my 450L I’ve just retired my TCX X-Heliums with a pair of Sidi X-3s. (I raced many years in the predecessor of that boot.)
Really helpful video. I was wearing a Sidi Adventure 2 boot off-road recently, went for a “dab” to keep balance, caught foot in dirt, twist! Felt like my leg was about to break, but got away with a limp for 10 days. Not going off-road again without a motocross boot.
Thanks Bret! I almost bought the Sidi Adventure 2 thinking it was the right choice for off road. Glad I didn’t. What you’re teaching makes a lot of sense 👍🏻 Please keep sharing your wisdom. I for one, need it.
I did buy the Sidi Adventure 2s 3 years ago as my first boot. If the SG12s fit I'll be buying them. If not, then its the Tech 7s.
Thanks for the info, that's a big difference in strength compared to the touring boots.
Also, in your experience, do crash bars provide any extra clearance on a low-side, ie - keep the bike up off the feet more?
Excellent info. Thanks!
I ride everywhere in Gaerne SG12’s. In fact, I just returned home on Sunday from a 3,000 mile road trip wearing my SG12’s. I have 4 other pairs of boots that just collect dust.
I always learn something from your videos, even when I thought I pretty much knew what you were going to say 😂 Really good points at the end about why good boots cost more.
What a great video! Thank you!!
Really like the Falco Avantuer boots I bought 4 years ago . That was the last year they made a replaceable outsole for them .
Great piece...wish I'd seen this earlier. Clearly while my Alpinestars Belize boots are great for touring they would be the wrong choice for even moderate dirt/gravel riding. Nothing wrong with having specific boots for specific conditions...time for the more appropriate pair.
this is so good!!!
Fabulous advice Brett, the last part of this video was the best," we pay the price for the boots so we are not in the ER or ambulance", thank you Brett.
Good info. I love my Fox Instinet Offroads. A little pricey but they feel great. Ride safe my 2 wheel friends.
2 years ago without any experience I bought Tech 7 for my enduro wandering. It is very comfortable despite the fact it is very stiff to me. I didn't expect there are even more stiff boots on the market. But whatever I find Tech 7 comfy, safety, durable and good quality. I chose them after fitting with another ones, that I don't remember the brand. But Tech 7's was so nice that I fell in love immediately. Whatever you choose, boots are very important in off-road situations. Stay cool. Cheers.
It really astounds me how adamant people are about not needed proper off road, motocross or enduro style boots when riding off pavement.
Thanks for recommending Brian. He is the best authority on motorcycle specific off pavement footwear.
Thank you.
(I wear Sidi Power X… super stiff boots, and yeah I miss second gear every now and then. Oh no 😐)
😉
Well I'm one of the people that think average high street footwear is good enough off pavement. Meaning gravel with less than say fist sized rocks. They're plenty rigid imo for that. However going offroad things begin to change. But no one should ride anything even on gravel with low street footwear or hiking boots whatever.
@@jothain I thought that too before I broke my fibula on a gravel road in Forma Adventures. Riding 35 miles home with a broken shifter leg sucks. Watch again at 6:00 .
@@ckkrons2338 What kind of footwear you had?
great video
i like the sidi x-power enduro
Great Video as always.
Good stuff 👍
Hehe, was in the market for a pair of boots a few months ago. Even though I don‘t realy ride off road (yet?), I went for the cf3s. Was also consulting some of your older videos :)
Now I feels confirmed again with my decision. Max protection as a beginner was my key idea behind it.
What I can say about it:
For me, they were more comfortable then the tech 7 (weird buckle placement).
Also the buckles are great / easy to use. I also changed some of them to shorter than stock to better fit (not having so much slack inside the boot).
Lots of information, very well presented. Thanks for your channel, Günter/Nürnberg
Hi Bret. Love your videos. Always very informative. Could you do a video that addresses how to avoid having your foot/leg get caught under the bike when it falls over sideways during low speed?
Great video! Thank you so much!!!
I would love 🖤 to see a Hybrid between the bad ass yet super stiff 🎿 Crossfires and the Adventure boots 🥾 ! Would also like to see a more modern sleeker tread pattern, instead of the 80s work boot tread pattern.
Alpinestars Toucan
Thanks for the update. I am kinda in the middle here, as my profile of riding is about 10k-12k trips (in KM). Aboutr 20% of that is offroad, but by offroad I mean doable terrain on my Africa Twin like backroads, gravel, farmlanes etc. What boot should I get? Full Offroad might be overkill, as I lack the comfort in 80% of the trip but should I go for Touring or Enduro? I own the mentioned Rev'IT Pioneer right now, and I love them but I need a replacement anyways. Kinda in between Enduro vs. Touring rn
Im new to adventure riding. I own a ktm adv 390. Love your channel. Learnt a lot from you. Love from India
A big smile and wave to India!
I wish I had watched this before purchasing my boots. I got Gaerne Fastback Enduro Boots Black/Brown. What you think of these? And I removed the metal toe covers.
I also have the Gaerne Balance Oiled Boot. these are the slippers of the boot world. I use these for tarmac and gravel roads.
Gaerne seems to fit my wide (E) foot better than the other brands of boots I have tried.
I had a pair of Alpinestar Corozal "Adventure" boots. While practicing slow tight turns on a muddy surface my foot slipped off the right peg. As a result the bike and I toppled over, causing my right foot to be pinned under the frame. Only took about 30-40 seconds to extract my foot from under the bike. I practiced for a little while longer, then continued my ride. Wasn't until I got home that I realised I had a massive hematoma on my ankle. An injury that could have been easily prevented had I been wearing the correct boots with better lateral support. I now never go off road without my Tech 7 Drystar Enduro boots, much, much more protection.
I got sucked in about 5 years ago by the sales person on the floor and got the Sidi Adv 2 boots (yes they squeek), then last year I wanted an everyday road riding boot and went with the Terra Evo Lows. Love those boots and would buy them again in a heartbeat. Not for offroad though.
"Red flag when it says Adventure" - spot on Bret! I had my toe hit quite hard on such boots when my foot hit the ground at super low speed. Immediately after this experience, I've watched your last video on boots and switched to Sidi Crossfire SRS for anything but street riding. Some folks think these are pro level boots and thus not needed for an average or beginning rider - thanks for pointing out that especially beginners (like me) need top protection!
I would argue that the beginner needs it more than the pro. Who falls/crashes more often?
Great video,thanks!!!
Thanks!
I'd used Alpinestars exclusively for enduro bike and even some MX track days years ago. They bought my loyalty a few times, but one in particular the bike fell on me downhill and dragged across my leg. It hurt, badly, but I wasn't injured really. Just a bruise. The peg had torn into my ankle area and ripped into my Astars but didn't get to my skin. If I hadn't had those boots on, I'm pretty sure that would have mangled my ankle. I wasn't even doing something risky, just lost balance on a hill. Get good boots people.
Wow! I think I just watched a 17 minute ´one take/no cut’ video with intelligent content. Bravo!
Other than b-roll fills yes you did. It was the 4th take only because I wanted to keep it close to 15min and the other three were true rants... 🤣
I ride a r1200gs on the street and off road. On road trip I use a Daytona touring boot, very comfortable and I got them in a wide. One of the few boots I found that come in a wide. For off road I tried on a pair of Alpinstar Corasol's, I found them to be too narrow in the foot bed. I finally went with the Forma Terra Evo, low. They have a wider foot bed and fit great, with a stiff med-sole. I would have liked to go with the full height, but they press in on my upper shin, where I had surgery, making for a very sore spot
Great video. Thanks.
I was about to go for Sidi boots but now I’m doubting with the all new Gaerne SG 22.
What do you think?
Thanks again!
Good info on the tech and level of protection. My issue with SIDI boots is that they are all so narrow it seems like they are made for folks with 4 toes when I have 5! If only they made boots with narrow heels and wide toeboxes...
To me, the ADV boots are adequate for road riding up to and including maintained gravel and logging roads. As soon as you hit doubletrack, I feel like enduro or MX boots are the right choice. Therefore almost all GS and Multistrada riders will be fine in ADV boots, but most dual sport riders need MX or enduro boots. Dress for the slide, not for the ride!
Finally, the term off-road seems to mean different things to different folks. I use pavement, off pavement, double track and single track to categorize riding surfaces, but that is just me.
Cheers!
Gaerne for wider feet
Sidi Crossfire 2/3 TA ARE wide toe box and standard heel.
@@nickr5051 I will have to try some of those. It has been a good 5-7 years since I tried a Sidi boot on. Maybe they are different now.
I have the Crossfire 2’s and have what my wife call “duck feet”: wide in front with a narrow heel but the Crossfire fit me just fine and are comfortable.
@@kenjisan7970 mine have been described as shaped like a slice of pie. Soft pointy heel and wide crusty toes, LOL
6:44 interesting to use that as a basis of comparison... For just dipping my toes in offroad I just used my Alpinestars SMX 5s which are very much a road/racing boot but shares most of these features (stiff side to side, very strong toe cap, strong midsole, solid ankle protection. The sole design is a little plain on them and ofc they are not waterproof but protection wise it seems they should stand up to the job for the start...
Thank you.
What about Revit Expedition GTX? Do they provide sufficient level of protection (as presented by Bret in one of the previous films, few years ago)? I would appreciate Bret’s comment 😊
You could get around the whole shifter and rear brake feel issue by getting an Africa Twin DCT and doing the parking brake lever conversion.
I only have experience with the Gaerne Fastback Enduro out of the boots on your chart. It is very stiff also pretty comfortable to me
very informational video i used to have some old off road boots but went with some sidi adventures lol but i am only touring mainly on road with the odd gravel road if needed but you let me know the next boot i should add to my collection for sure thanks
Been finding the same results with my forma adventure tall boots, I love them as a touring boot and i can walk around all day at camp... but in the trails or sketchy stuff I'm wanting more protection. I already have the tech 7 enduros I use for my dirt bike so I will try and adapt to those first, i rode my super tenere once with them when I first got them and hated the lack of feel, I then bought the formas. But since then i got my self a dirt bike and have broken in the tech 7s riding my wr and I'm thinking i need to give them another shot on the big heavy super ten and just get used to them.
I've owned the Forma adv, and have owned the Sidi adv for years. There is a world of difference between the two. That said, I had a tip over with an ankle sandwich - 500ls of bike - ankle, rock: The formas supported the bike and had no injuries.
No doubt this is good advice, and criteria to be kept in the front of your mind when making a selection, but the other aspect is : gear is only safe if you are wearing it, and you have to know what you're going to put on for a ride - as Atomic Moto says - the most boot you can handle. This comes with experience - and money - . Curious about those Sidis though.
I'm teased for being an atgatt superhero, but actually everything I wear is super comfy. Probably some compromises, but I'm happy to slap it on and hit the road.
Wish I could attend one of your workshops one day.
I always wear full MX boots even around town. Just feels more comfortable and clearly more protection than a street boot. And then never have to get used to anything else. One great boot (prob AS tech 7s) and just get used to it and use them always. Boom. Never worry bout boots what to wear or when to wear ever again.
good info!
You make it clear !! So, the issue comes in when we are going on a 50-50 to 70-30(% on-off) small or big tour and the dirt boot will be too discomfort. Moreover, i haven't understood the level off protection a fairly soft enduro boot can offer on a pavement ride, as most of the sites say "ce approved" but not the 4 points rating (1/2/2/2 etc )
Great Video! I ride exclusively on road, I bought a set of TCX Drifter boots, which are a comfortable high boot… similar to the 3 buckle BMW boot you showed…
Since I ride exclusively on asphalt, I’m wondering if they give slightly better protection than regular street boots for road riding… what are your thoughts?
FINALLY! Someone that has my same theory on boots!
I have three bikes: 2002 DRZ 400S that I've had since 2006. 2019 KTM 450 EXC-F, and a 2022 T7 that hasn't seen the dirt yet. At the moment I have a pair of aging, nearly worn out Sidi Flex Force boots that are probably 20+ years old. They are similar to the Crossfire 3, just a really early version if the MX style boots with the pivot point.
I wear them regardless of what type of riding I do, or which bike I'm riding. My plan is to replace them with a pair of Crossfire 3 TA boots like you have. To me, foot and ankle protection is of the utmost importance, so like you, that's why I want a stiff/rigid boot. Who cares if it's inconvenient to walk in them.
TA = Traditional Application (I think). It means they have a replaceable sole by getting parts and having a shoe/boot repair shop work their magic.
Sidi SRS is "sole replacement system" which means an owner can replace the sole.
Thanks for the great content as always! I haven't seen them in person yet but was looking at the Alpinestars Tech 3. They are listed in the MX section and looked to be a reasonable compromise between the Tech 7 and Corozal Adv boot. Does anyone have thoughts on those?
On 30 April 2023, I broke the right leg in 2 places and shattered the ankle after hitting a kangaroo at 80 kph on a 2 lane blacktop. Wearing mid length 'adventure boots'. When I eventually can ride again, I will only wear motocross boots. Great article. Cheers, Pete.
Used Tech 7s for a while but living in them got old, and no waterproofing. Been using the Toucans for the last two years and super impressed by them, protective but waterproof and more comfortable walking around and in them all day.
The Tech 7 Enduro comes as a waterproof boot... Just an FYI
@BretTkacs it does now. Unfortunately the drystar wasn't an option then.
Hi Bret! Any plans for the next India training?
I have Sidi Crossfires and Sidi Adventure 2 boots. I agree with you overall, but I still use my Sidi Adventures for all but pure dirt riding. I think they're the most protective of the Adventure boots, but I do give up protection vs the Crossfires.
It is very much a risk return calculus. On a multiday trip, I just have to have a wider range of use than I can get from big, heavy offroad boots.