The 2024 Honda Prologue Is The Chevy/Honda Half-Breed You've Been Waiting For. Seriously!
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Well done Honda for not going crazy with the styling. Very clean exterior looks, with a more conventional interior than the Tesla. We have a Model Y and a CR-V, and I could see my other half preferring the Prologue to the Y for its conventional controls. I wish the Prologue had a 40/20/40 split rear seat and faster charging, but other than that I really like it.
Alex really is the best car reviewer.
Way better than the Kyle Connor bash fest
@@markfitzpatrick6692 exactly. Alex describes features as they are with less Tesla bias than many other reviewers. Alex impressed me a while ago when he went into depth describing the technical differences between the Toyota and Honda hybrid systems. One of the reasons why I bought a 2023 CRV hybrid.
Great point about the Prologue having CarPlay, whereas the Blazer intentionally left it out. Wtf was GM thinking?
What they were thinking is data mining and reducing licensing costs, I guess. It's hard to get data while complying with Apple's restrictions.
They want you to pay for their data plan instead of using your existing phone plan for free.
@@JohnSmith-bt4lf
But if you buy another make of vehicle precisely because GM does _not_ include CarPlay, GM makes exactly ZERO dollars from a data plan and data mining.
Not to mention a lost sale of the entire vehicle, plus service, plus parts, etc. over the life of the car.
@@JohnSmith-bt4lfexcept their cars come with 8 years of data free.
@@JohnSmith-bt4lf : I don't know how much the GM costs, but Ford and Tesla are only 10.00/month. It is hard to imagine that as a serious revenue stream, and I'm still guessing (I admit "guessing") that it is a data mining ploy to which Apple will not agree.
The Elite version is very attractive. I love the teal color. I like the more normal look of the car. I just wish the price wasn't so high.
Then buy a pre-owned one with low mileage which can save a lot of money considering how fast EVs depreciate these days. I would not go for AWD but instead prefer the longer range, lighter, less expensive vehicle. The Honda warranty should be still active to feel comfortable.
Don't let the price deter you. The yearly cost will be about the same as other, less expensive-ICE cars when you factor in fuel cost and maintenance.
Sir Mix A Lot reference👋👋
4:55 12:06 12:07 14:53
😂😂😂
LmaaaoooOoo
Alex I am shocked =) you didnt mention the now-rare turning ligths in *amber* on this vehicle.
Worth noting that while gas powered GM vehicles tend to be a bit… patchy on reliability, their EVs are historically quite good. Bolt EV was a remarkably reliable car (speaking from personal experience), the battery recall is the one blemish and that wasn’t GM’s fault.
Volt and Bolt are solid, but the Lyriq is loaded with software bugs and quality issues, even after two years. If Honda can make a reliable bug free vehicle using the same GM components, then that’s a double shaming on GM!
So basically the Blazer EV with more conservative styling and Apple CarPlay/Android Auto. I think this one is a winner!
Also, the BZ4X is such a low bar to set. ;)
Honestly, and no disrespect to Honda, but that's truly the Prologue's most direct competitor. Honda shoppers seem to rarely cross shop other brands.
Sure, I'd think about it if I were in the market. No software bugs, includes CarPlay 2? Over a Blazer EV? Sure, I'd definitely buy the Prologue before I bought a Blazer EV. :-)
For DC fast charging please add 10 to 80% charging times..... Since peak charging rates are very misleading. Personally I prefer charging curve but that would just confuse those people.
It's maybe a little early to know what that will be on the production model - but this is a GM Ultium system, so expect it to perform like others: Lyriq, Silverado EV, Blazer, Equinox, etc.
I think you mean 20-80%. Yeah Tesla I only get 254kw for a very short time from 20% tad longer from 14% which been my lowest so far.
I'd much rather have a HR-V hybrid. The rest of the world already has that in the form of the ZR-V, don't know why Honda is so slow to bring it to America
In 2016 when I bought my HR-V. I was hoping Acura would have brought the CDX over from Japan. It was hybrid 7 speed DCT and I think it even had SH-AWD. Probably would have really boosted Acura sales when the sub-compact market was really taking off.
That’s a Completely different car
@@f181234 the second gen HR-V is the same as the ZR-V. The first gen HR-V had an Acura version called the CDX in china.
Subaru has been selling a hybrid Forester in Europe for years now. Stellantis sells dozens of EV models in Europe. Ford sells a PHEV Ranger in Australia. You have to ask why not here?
I saw it in person yesterday and was very impressed by the design.
My guess is that divider there in the middle is for support since that under area seems pretty wide. You could use something sturdier as a cover, but I suspect the cover may be heavy enough already, especially if you need it lift it without removing stuff off of the cover first.
The small rear wiper blade is so small - it looks like a dog wagging its small tail.
I mean, it's better than not having a wiper at all (because vehicles now come with rearview cameras as a standard safety feature nowadays) but that's only clearing the middle part of the rear window and not closer to the edge.
agreed.... That was almost laughable.... but I bet it wouldn't be that difficult to retrofit a longer one.... Just a thought....
I think the wiper blade is limited by the short height of the rear window.
@@SueC56 I had a 2004 Mazda3 hatchback, and the rear window wiper was larger than this small SUV's rear window wiper.
Nice to see Honda getting into this segment.
Honda did great. Only thing it needs now is a front trunk and NACS access to be a competitive SUV.
Call it a *_Hevy,_* or a *_Chonda._*
Alex has the magic for doing car's review s ❤
I like that the prologue has apple carplay and android auto and is a good looking car 👍
Idk about you guys, but I'm digging the rain. I mean, it sucks for Alex, but it's kinda refreshing.
Alex, your wording on your reviews on these cars is exceptional! Especially physics based wording. Meaning, most people don’t understand how Cg plays a role at highway efficiency.
Great review as usual!
This and the Y are on my future (maybe) buy list.
In the end, efficiency is king in EV’s so while I think this is a great vehicle, the model Y wins in my book, except no apple car play and regen options for gliding (which is more efficient as you so eloquently pointed out in previous video) pending driving habits.
Keep up the great work! And all done well, in the rain!!!!
I have test drove a Model Y and it has a very cheap and not user friendly interior. The Prologue has real buttons and controls you can use without having to go through the large screen. It has a much quieter, smoother ride. It reminds me of my old Audi Q5 virtual cockpit with having the navigation maps/directions on the screen in front of the steering wheel. A very useful feature while driving in heavy traffic in strange cities. Remember, Tesla overstates everything, their Cr may be less but their efficiency is not really better. Tesla is very expensive to insure. In my eye the Prologue wins hands down.
Headlights in the tablet are fine until you're out at night and realize that your valet didn't realize they were automatic and turned them off.
I guess I'm excited... but I think this is still a real "wait and see" for me. I like the Ioniq 5, and I don't think I'd touch any other BEV at this point until things shake out over the next 2-3 years.
Alex is always great for no frills very informative and subtle information in a very compactish video. And he's always prefaces what's opinion, fact or best guess.
8:39 9:00 9:17 9:23 "All-new *_Honda Motocompacto,_* a fun, fresh take on e-scooters, redefines affordable all-electric personal transportation with sleek and simple styling, an innovative, ultra-compact foldable design, and an MSRP of just $995." Nov 1, 2023
The sir mixalot reference killed me. 🍑
Seriously!
Very nice & thorough review!
I love the look of the Prologue.
And I like how practical it should be.
And I like the Eltium package’s motors, battery packs, software etc.
I want one!
Shoes match the interior, well played Alex. Attention to detail, that is why you are my favorite reviewer. Also, the dead pan jokes.
Alex, Is this the Epilogue of the Honda/GM EV partnership? 🤔😉🤣
Maybe the Apotheosis
GM and Honda have partnered before.
“This has all happened before and will all again”.
Coming from a Bolt, my big Ultium question is how similar/effective the regen braking/paddle system is; one of my favorite things about the Bolt and something that has been underwhelming in some other EVs I’ve driven.
Well done on the Sir Mix A Lot lines. Good review as always.
It's a one and done product (the GM and Honda partnership has ended) but it sill looks great.
Amazing video Alex.
We used to say: Co-operate to Graduate. I think this has taken the best of the 2 manufacturers. Kudos to GM & HONDA. Manufactures do need to get their price points lower though. Only the rich survive.😊
I watched several other CZcams videos covering this SUV. Alex, once again, has done the best job. He asked about GM vs. Honda. My daughter has a Chevrolet Bolt which had a major battery problem. Dealing with the Chevrolet dealership was a nightmare. Somehow I feel as if the Honda Dealer would have treated her better; the car was in the shop 3 months!
I hope to get a "passenger friendly EV" at the end of the year. This vehicle looks to be at the top of the list in this regard.
My one concern is just how front wheel biased this vehicle is as an AWD car. I tend to prefer a rear wheel bias drive. I would love to have Alex compare the driving characteristics of the Nissan Ariya (perhaps a comparable vehicle), a few of the most similar rear wheel biased AWD EV's and the Prologue.
Hi Alex, how is this "one of the best values" and "less money" from your opening statement? Starting price of ~$48k and doesn't qualify for tax credits seem to make this much more expensive than the Tesla Model Y ($42k), Ford Mustang Mach-E ($40k) and even Chevy's own Equinox EV ($35k).
It does qualify for the full $7500 just like Blazer.
If I were in the market, this would definitely be on my list.
After a year or so with all that shiny black plastic, I'd be tempted to take some 0000 steel wool and give it a good swirl. If the fingerprints weren't bad enough, the scattered scratches completely kill the deal. Don't know why so many car designers make this choice.
Car overall looks good to me. Not entranced by the range vs price though. I'm not yet willing to consider "sleek and sexy." Like the box and the width. Shed a tear for the (lack of) performance.
The difference in door material between front and back bothers my OCD.
I’m trying to figure out the Jane Fonda reference . . .
divider in the rear under storage area looks like it could be weight support, rear floor support. I have seen a CR-V EXL rear floor cave it due to no support. Thoughts?
😂😂 The Sir Mixalot reference!! Thank you Alex!
So no supercruise on Honda prologue?
Only on the Acura ZDX
4:55 - “If like… Sir Mix-A-Lot… You want a motor in the back of your Honda” 😂
The problem is that you have to get a Prologue in elite trim so that it is equipped like a Tesla Model Y. As such, this is about $12000 more than a Model Y in inventory while being less efficient. I’m in the market and was interested in this but I can’t justify $12k more for this. 😢
If I had to choose right now between the Model Y and Prologue, it would be the Prologue. I cannot stand not having an instrument cluster. I like physical buttons where they are supposed to be on the Prologue instead of having to fuss with a screen of menu within menu on the Model Y. I really do not like the jelly bean look on the Model Y as well. The rear wiper is a bit too small on the Prologue but it's better than no rear wiper. The shifter on the column on the Prologue is a negative for me (I know, more space saved) since it's not where I want it to be. I agree, headlights on auto are the norm for me so it doesn't bother me with the Prologue.
I like sentry mode and the bigger rear seats on the Model Y but the negatives from the Model Y for me just make the positives from the Prologue that much more better. I don't live in CA and I don't road trip ever either so charging isn't much of an issue for me.
However if I'm going to pay almost 70k for the Elite trim, I would just spend more and get an EV9 GT-Line at that point. You might as well at that price point. Faster charging, much bigger, etc. The firmer EV9 suspension isn't a plus for me but the EV9 checks more boxes for me than the Prologue (and even more so than the Model Y). The federal tax credit doesn't apply to my situation so it doesn't matter to me that the Kia EV9 currently doesn't get it (or half even when the production moves to the US).
I'm not a Tesla fan but you can get aftermarket instrument clusters for the MY.... Which I'm hoping will happen for the Volvo EX30....
The Elite trim is $59,000, not $70,000.And with the $7,500 tax credit it is about $51,500 for the top trim level (Elite).
But the Tesla has a big price advantage. You can get a new Model Y long range for $41K (including the $7500 federal tax credit).
Prologue has a big price advantage, which also gets the full tax credit.... Once you add in all the Elon nickel and dime fees ..
@ What is the price on a Prologue? And do they exist? A autotrader check within 200 miles of Dallas TX turns up zilch. Plenty of Tesla Model Y's available for immediate delivery on their website. The biggest advantage the Tesla has is the NO Dealership nickel and dime fees! Literally sign and drive off the lot.
I'm a sucker for teal paint. It is a good looking EV.
This looks like any normal gas suv but it happens to have an electric motor. No gadgets like pop our door handles that kids will break and you have to show your passengers how to use. With android auto and Honda functionality I would certainly pick this over a blazer.
I know I'm crossing segments, but I'd sure love a Crown Signia Hybrid Max as my new mostly-EV wagon. Always EV back and forth to work, and i can drive LA-San Francisco stop-free like God intended.
“Motor in the back of your Honda” 😂
Glad they put the charging door in the CORRECT location, not on the rear bumper or at the back of the vehicle or on the passenger side
Those tires on the Elite model are ridiculous for such a heavy car especially with the short sidewalls. Expect to buy new expensive tires more often. Overall, it’s a good looking vehicle.
Alex great video as always. I like the styling, the size, the interior space. I don't like the price, the weight, and the GM involvement. Why are EVs so expensive? At this point in time, I think human beings have pretty much perfected how to manufacture an automobile. What is so expensive in an EV? I don't think it's the electric motors, they have been around over 100 years. They have less moving parts than an ICE motor. Is it the batteries and the system to maintain the proper temperature for those batteries? I would really like to know. Thanks again for another great video.
It's generally the batteries that are very expensive, both in manufacturing cost and raw material cost.
Also worth noting is the sheer size of electric car batteries. An electric car can run your entire (fully electric) house on its own for over 24 hours, and some larger batteries (like the Hummer) probably over two days. That's a lot of battery, and it goes to show why EV's are still quite wasteful when it comes to "going green". If you want to be green, buy a bike.
Thank you.
What bothers you so much about the GM involvement? If it's good enough for Honda, why isn't it good enough for you? GM has had similar collaborations with Toyota and that's gone just fine.
@@BillyBobDingledorf I'm not OP, but If you're referring to the Geo brand, I recall that was GM selling Toyota-built vehicles. This is Honda selling GM-built vehicles, basically the opposite.
Honestly, the saving grace for this partnership is that EV's don't have as many parts that can fail as a combustion engine car. The GM Ultium battery being serviceable also helps. I would never buy a Honda branded GM combustion car, the same way I would never buy a GM car.
Also, Honda's interior switchgear is better than GM's IMHO. I hate column shifters and combined headlight/turn signal/wiper stalks.
@@KarthikVishwamitra I'm referring to joint efforts like the Pontiac Vibe / Toyota Matrix. Similarly, the Toyota Cavalier, which was built in a NUMMI in Ohio and shipped to Japan. There's also the Toyota Voltz.
Definitely would choose this over the Model Y.
Nice Sir Mix A Lot ref Alex.
Really nice looking normal car. I would very seriously consider this if wanting a full EV. Love the colour as well. Well done Honda (and GM I guess LOL)
Thank you Alex for the post. But Munro & Associates did a teardown of the Hyundai Ioniq 5 battery pack and concluded it was very repairable. (Which is kind of ironic with all the fear mongering about the excessive cost of a replacement battery pack.)
So your conjecture about the excess weight of the Ultium-based GM EVs is due to its superior battery pack repairability, is dubious at best. Especially since the Ultium-based Honda is considerably lighter.
Munro is 'against' 'repairable tecnology'. when he sees 10 screws he says "this is a waste" I could have done with two Dowel pins... . when he says unusued space in the frunk "this is waste". DIYers, mechanics, 2nd or 3rd used market for these EVs are not in his vision; he praises extreme packaging and tight engineering such in Teslas....
@@cdbuiles I'm willing to bet, based on your comments you didn't watch the teardown analysis?
Based on the fact that it was done by somebody other than Sandy and reliability was a specific criteria.
The Ultium Honda is not that much lighter. This is over 5,000 lbs in every model except an absolute base trim with FWD. The Blazer gets about 200lbs heavier because of the differing options on it. The modular nature of Ultium is what makes it more repairable vs an Ioniq 5. Munro has never compared them directly that I have seen and if he's implied that anything is like Ultium, he's crazy. Ultium not only allows modules to be replaced, it allows slightly different module chemistries to be mixed in should that be needed later down the line. No other EV can handle that at the moment. BUT, and this is a BIG, BIG BUT. Is the weight penalty worth it? I would hazard the answer is no. The reality is that batteries are very reliable and the extra cost, weight, inefficiency, etc involved in making Ultium so flexible is a big problem. I suspect that this will "Ultiumately" be a battery platform dead end for GM. The big cells make sense, the massive packaging penalty does not.
@@nc3826I didn’t. but I’ve seen Sandie and his closest engineers with same rethoric… whenever he compares how Ford builts it and how VW builts it and then he literally he has high praises how Tesla does it. I am from the ‘european’ school with their ‘right to repair’ laws; anything from a battery to a toaster to an engine should be engineered to allow repairs… yes there is a compromise… I invite you to check various of his dismantling projects and get a feeling for his preferences.
@@AAutoBuyersGuide Blazer EV tops out at 5591 pounds, while the Prologue tops out at just over 5,000 pounds. So even if they are equipped differently it seems to be a more significant weight difference? But this was not the main point of the contention.
Almost every automakers pack is constructed out of modules. Just because a GM press release referred to it as 'modular and repairable'. Doesn't mean it's any more modular or repairable than various other modular designed battery packs. Including the very modular and rather elegantly designed BMW i3 battery pack from over a decade ago. And subsequently the E-GMP packs. (As a side note even non-modular designs have their repairability advantages. For example it's simpler to replace a single cell in a Tesla or Lucid designed pack versus a module design battery pack such as the Ultium)
And as far as the Ultium pack being able to use different chemistries and configurations due to its wireless BMS system. That's not a repairability factor. That's a modification and upgradable factor. Plus it's just theoretical at this point.
I don't claim to be an expert, but I've seen numerous dismantled battery packs. And third party analysis. So the only thing that seems crazy is your claims about the Ultium battery pack being more modular and repairable.
But at least I have a little more insight, where you came up with your claims. Thanks for the feedback.
Great product at a great price, but can’t see why you’d pay more for one of these over a Model Y, which has far more cargo space and space for people as well. At least this has a better look and more range, which precious few competitors manage.
I’d be less worried about the frunk than about the way bigger trunk.
Unbelievably ordinary.
I miss the good old days of small, subcompact Honda's.
It’s a good pairing if GM could their quality right. Heard too many stories of how the Blazer EV launch was botched. No reason why the Honda version wouldn’t be affected since it’s based on that
Toyota proved that past reliability with ice vehicles is not indicative of reliability for BEVs....
The blazer issues were related to the infotainment head units and software. Honda did their own thing there.
On the contrary the Blazer EV and the Prologue use the same operating system.... the only difference is the apps.... Let's hope Honda's software Engineers do a better job ?
How does this seem worse than the Bolt?
Great review Alex! I don't see Honda selling a lot of these since the specs are just ok and a Model Y LR currently costs less than $40k with point of sale credit.
This should be called Honda Epilogue as others have pointed out.
Ooooh, I like it. LOL
can it fit easily a full golf bag?
Other reviews say it can hold three
It’s a bit plain looking. The gloss black between the headlights cheapens the look. They should have painted it body color. Reminds me of the first model S. Not a bad 1st attempt by Honda, but for 60K I want to be wowed! Which this doesn’t…
Just hide this tiny rear windscreen whipper under the spoiler - it riuns the clean look !! and get rid of piano black for good!!
Alex , What’s the ground clearance ?
I’ve read 7.9”
8.1 inches
Love it!
How is it that this huge Prologue has about the same cargo volume behind the rear seats as the much, much smaller VW GTI? Seems like a real "feat" of design and engineering.
Is this going to have the weird Ultium charging curve where it only charges quickly for 10 minutes?
Lol i love your sir mix alot references!
Thank you for calling out the 2 way lumbar. Some of us have that on our must-have list, meaning I won’t be buying the Prologue. 😢
Alex, I like that phone case! Brand?
It was some no-name brand from Amazon LOL
I’d wait 2 years for a used selling @25K and 4K rebate on used EV
except the superior Hyundai ioniq 5 is already 2 years old....
They're going to be a lot cheaper than that.
a rebate on a used vehicle?????
@@trumpisastump9382 Some states offer incentives to purchase used plug-in vehicles. In California, people have reported stacking various incentives and getting free cars.
'4K rebate on used EV' yelp, google it
I would rather put some 18” narrow tires on it to maximize range
Hilarious, LOL, the Sir-Mix comment on the motor in my honda, guess only our generation would remember that song , Hahaahahahahah to funny
I would buy it If Honda put V6 in it .. its looks better than the passport
Then wait for the new passport, coming out later this year.
Scream so cheap inside
Well then stop screaming.
Meanwhile i was hoping for the CrossE-tour
Still waiting for the Honda Airport
The issue with EVs is still the price. That’s really expensive compared to similar gas. At least 10k
This is actually 20k too expensive. 37k would be acceptable as it's basically the same space as a crv. I think I would rather have the crv.
This is precisely the problem… legacy auto went upscale and high priced whereas Chinese are perfecting the $15k EV. Ford has finally figured this out, so are cancelling many conversion and high end EV projects, instead creating an all-in skunk works to go after the elusive $20k US made EV. GM, sadly, still hasn’t figured out why cancelling their best selling low cost Bolt was a bad idea.
On average, an EV has a $5,000 price disadvantage. However, this has fallen precipitously and EVs are now on pace to cost less than comparable ICE vehicles within the next 2 years.
Didn't hear it mentioned, will these be serviced at all Honda dealers?
Yes they will. -Travis
Honda did not say, but any dealer that sells them will service them for sure.
That intro felt like kissing Honda's backside. This is expensive, even by EV standards and having GM as that basis of the platform is scary.
I would take a base model EV9 over this. With the Model Y below 40 grand, it makes it hard to pay so much more for this.
Whether or not it is good for a specific buyer is a matter of personal preference, I am simply explaining why it happened and why it's good for Honda. I also personally think it's just fine. Whether or not it'll be a "good idea" in the end we'll have to see. It'll depend on how many they make and can sell and whether or not anything bad goes down afterwards.
@@AAutoBuyersGuide I get not wanting to offend Honda, but what the Savage Geese for what appears to be more consumer helping video. Same press event you were at, but not so fluffy. There are ways to tone things down so you sound less fluff and more informative. Automotive media is a political beast that is not easy to manage.
With all due respect this channel is not about offending or not offending a particular car brand.... It's about presenting the facts as objectively as humanly possible...... Tone is not the channel's forte.... For those fixated more on tone and melodrama... Good luck finding an appropriate channel via a wild goose chase or is that a Savage Geese chase?
Sorry, apparently you wanted him to lick the backside of Tesla or Hyundai. Sorry if you can't handle an opinion different than yours. Sorry if you are a snowflake.
@@trumpisastump9382 Watch the Savage Geese or Out of Spec, both were less fluffy. They were all at the same press event.
I would have preferred if Honda and Chevy paired a Bolt/Honda E mix. Not everyone needs an SUV.
13:07 so still miserable route planning? in 2024....
I like the looks, love the color, but I'm not going to afford an EV. I can't even afford an old gas minivan or Accord hybrid.
12:07 14:53 *_"Mack Daddy_* is the third studio album by Sir Mix-a-Lot. It was released on February 4, 1992, on Def American Recordings. The album is particularly notable for the hit single "Baby Got Back."
Thank you for pointing out what was salient about the post
That starting price is way too high. Seems like they increased the price since there is a tax credit.
What, What ,What. No Junk in the Trunk.
Not the first time that Honda and GM have collaborated. The Saturn Red Line Vue had a Honda V6 under its hood.
My thing is ... having GM provide the underpinnings and building it in the states qualifies it for a tax write-off, but ... is it worth it in the long run? Will there be build issues with the Prologue because of its platform mate?
Also, what's with manufacturers spelling out their name across the back of the car? Isn't that what emblems are for? Have people gotten suddenly dumber that an emblem isn't enough?
Aptera starting to scare people including pure play ICE Platforms. Hybrid drive systems looking good. 2025 Ford Explorer still the vehicle to watch for this Year Calendar Year 2024. Some of these prices are really and truly going off a cliff quite suddenly as well so for those that can contain themselves definitely pays to wait for 4 wheels and a steering wheel excepting possibly Cybertruck. Still personally seriously looking at a stand up scooter or a folding bike but expecting prices to collapse with those as well. Subaru hybrid looking forward to that.
Baby Got Back but no junk in the front trunk. 😂
Like it, it checks all the boxes, Apple car play, Rear wiper, fast AC charging, better looking than the Chevy! Good job Honda.
I can use Android auto and have a FUN color? Those two things alone make me prefer it over the Tesla.
Gm electronics and quality!!!!
I just marvel at the fact that Honda somehow made this a foot long than an ID4 yet ended up with smaller luggage space and no more int space. What's with that huge front end? And then they made the charging slower and charges more for it all by 6k bucks in Canada. DOA. Can you say big discounts?
Those things are a result of the Ultium platform constraints, as is the excessive weight and poor efficiency. Honda’s future in-house EV designs will be quite different, but still a few years out.
@@chriso5774 I think they could have done 2 things to make this a much better design. First, create a frunk space by moving that mess around in the front. Not sure this is even possible given most of the platform, as you said, is GM.
Second, make the rear seats movable to create more luggage space. This for sure is doable. Maybe lower the seat a little to give more headroom.
Definitely not in my driveway! Not pure Honda made, too expensive, design okay......I rather have Tesla model Y Performance.
In theory this should be around the same price as the model Y, but in reality it will be considerably more after dealer markups and limited production due to GM/Honda losing money on everyone made since they cannot scale up the ultium products.
On the plus side this is probably the best Japanese ev you can buy
Those of you complaining that it’s just a GM product should remember that the Supra is just a bmw
I think I’d prefer a Nissan Ariya over this.
@@ALMX5DP I would too but I’d probably get an ioniq5 or a model Y
@@naveenthemachine lol if you would too why did you say this was probably the best Japanese EV you can buy?
@@ALMX5DP because of the effort. The Ariya and prologue are the best Japanese ones.
@@naveenthemachine the effort being minimal as this is more of a GM product you mean?