THANK YOU NVIDIA!! - RTX 4060 Ti Review
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The 4060 Ti is here, and the rumors are true: it's an 8GB card launching at a time when 8GB of VRAM is barely enough for AAA titles at 1080p. That being said, the raw performance isn't TERRIBLE and they didn't raise the price from the last generation, so... good?
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0:00 Intro
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Contrary to the table at 0:13, the RTX 4060Ti is PCIe x8, not x16. We also said the X370 chipset does not support ReBAR but that was added in a later update. We apologize for the confusion!
Excellent job, this review was much better than previous ones.
Is it enough for PCIe 3.0?
@@karolwesoek5350 I think most board that is still rocking PCIe 3.0, will be bottlenecked on the CPU before you buy this GPU....
The argument for x8 bus is more relevant to 50-series GPU, which either just run on PCIe, or just sip powers from one 6-pin/8-pin so it does not overwhelm the poor used-office PC PSU. The memory bus already knee-cap this GPU anyway.
Geez, thats skeezy
Couldn't it be Nvidia chose to 'only' go with a 128bit bus because whenever they used a 256bit bus in combination with the new larger L2 cache the performance of the 4060ti would be to close to the 4070? Would be interesting to find that out.
The fact that the RTX 3060ti is so close in all charts and can even beat the 4060 ti at higher res (sometimes) is just hilarious
And the 3060ti might actually also be more powerful than the 3060ti for people with pcie 3.0. NOBODY NEEDS PCIE 4.0 IN THIS LOW END, EXCEPT WHEN GPU MAKERS ARE SO CHEAPO WHILE MAKING CARDS THAT USES ONLY HALF OF THE PCIE LANES. This is a pcie 4.0x8 card as far as i know.
Makes me even happier knowing I went with a 6700xt instead of waiting on new gpus.
Yes dude, because of the memory. 4060ti need 12gb with wider bus, like 192bits, to proper beat the 3060ti in 1440p.
brb, on my way to buy a pre owned 3060 ti and tell everyone I bought a new 4060 ti, nvidia has lost its mind and my money
the 3060ti was slept on so bad, I gave my 3060ti to my brother for his pc when I upgraded. He's able to run games so smoothly at 1440p 240hz with no issues. Forza runs like a dream, he plays GTA V mostly with redux and it runs like a dream. Hands down the best budget card ever imo, 3060ti was unreal
At this point Nvidia really thinks we are stupid lol
or we are thinking that nvidia's the stupid one
Who's we?
@@chic-fil-ashouldopenonsund3623lol
at this point?
I think Nvidia is stupid.
Thank you NVDIA for making the 60s cards 10% better every year so the 7060 ti can maybe get the same results as the 4090
4070Ti
The 7090 ti can give you 120 fps at 8k with pathtracing on, with a headroom to spare! It’s a marvel of engineering
The 7060 can do 1080p 60 in some games, but not even 30 fps in others. Good deal at just $799!
@@itsalwaysdarkestbeforethes1198 How much power will the 7090 ti use? Maybe 1200 watts?
@@GamerErman2001 1.21 gigawatts
4060 ti i like it
As now a dedicated Arc user (my a380 is treating me well, thank you very much) I am so happy to see Arc putting up a fight in price tiers nobody seems to consider as valid.
Thank you for your service! We should support Intel GPU launch to get in the main ring with AMD and Nvidia.
You poor soul. Thank you for your sacrifice!
@@Innosos "poor soul" is a bit much. 😂😂
@@Innosos You're talking as if Intel can't make decent cards. They can, people just need to be patient and wait for better drivers because the hardware is solid, only software is their weak point.
But in the long run, Intel is going to force both Amd and Nvidia (Nvidia mostly, Amd is still somewhat consumer friendly) to get off their high horse prices because aint nobody buying overpriced gpus anymore when you can get an A770 16gb for 340$ that offers similar, if not better performance than the Rtx 3060.
Airbus gpu
Can’t wait for the 5060Ti with 2GB of GDDR5. That’s when Nvidias line of retro gaming cards will really hit its stride.
Don’t forget the 64Bit buswidth and pcie 4x4 connection and decreased shadercore count
But it will feature dlss 4.0
Get 4 inaccurate fake frames - unusable in any non slow paced offline point and click adventure game - for every upscale frame produced
Oh did we forget to mention
To keep manufacturing costs down upscaling will be on by default
Now to the price
It’s just 600$ for the 1 Gig and 750$ for the 2gig variant
"retro gaming cards" 🤣🤣
can't wait sell my 1060 6 GB for $800
$700 cards baby, can't wait to play Unreal Tournament 2004 on that beauty
I can't wait to spend $500 on a brand new CGA card
Here at Nvidia we made a mistake with a few cards, and realised they were a bit too good and had far too much longevity for our tastes. So we went to work and made sure that won't happen again: we are proud to announce, the 4060Ti, a card that will be almost useless for new games in 6 months!
Ah yes the good old 1080ti i bet that mistake won't happen again 😅
That waste of sand card is useless right now you don't need even need to wait 6 months.
Boys, it's time we rise up.
Lets..... go outside, I know its hard, but you have to be a soldier and do it.
Lets... play physical sports like soccer, volleyball etc.
Lets get dirty. We dont need ngreedia.
@@wanderer7779 wait for FSR 3.0 to get the 1080 ti final form.
That means that my 1080Ti 11GB will have to survive (at least) the next generation. I can wait untill The elder Scrolls 6 is out in 2026 to 2029
I literally just got the 4060ti without heavily researching it first (oops). I paired it with a I7-7700T , 32gb and 1tb nvme (gen3). All these components were sitting around collecting dust, so I wanted to make a low-wattage gaming rig. I'm also gaming on a 1080p 180mhz monitor and so far, it performs extremely well, no complaints whatsoever. It obviously crushes 1080p gaming so I'm perfectly happy with it.
I got it for $240 so I wasn't malding about its mediocrity
I have a Ryzen 3200g, 16 gb ram, 500 GB SSD and a used 1660 super (which I got for 110$ a year back). I am still crushing 1080p 60fps gaming. That's why the whole 40 series looks like a comical scam to me. 😂😂 So for the first time, when I do upgrade I think I will look at AMD or Intel this time. Nvidia is as hopeless as nokia at this point.
Haha me too. Thinking to return it and spend the extra $100 to get the 4070
@@thedeathstar420 I'd save those 100$ for future upgrade. And, when the right time comes I'll sell 4060 ti + use these 100$ to get new GPU.
I'm having no issues with it, I don't need 4k, and in most cases, I'm at 1440 easily at 60fps. I'll just have to upgrade a little earlier than I want. No biggie.
As someone who bought a 3060 OC during the pandemic, this makes me happy that i not missing out on much. It even has 12Gb vram 🥴
Same tbh
Scamvidia. How long do I wait for msi 4070 slim $700 to drop to $500. 2 years?
Congrats Nvidia !
After the successful un-launch of the 4080 12Gb you more than made up for it by re-releasing the 3060Ti !
Just remember, it's pronounced "tie"
- Thanks Steve!
@@JXSnWp Underrated comment.
MSRP adjusted for inflation too
@@onicEQ Inflation is BS at this point, all they want is to keep the same profit levels as they had during the mining craze. 🤡
Unlaunched their own 4060 Ti to replace it with the 3060 Super lol
Looking around the tech channels, this looks like the most positive review of the 4060 TI today, and the conclusion was "Buy Arc A770 instead". Amazing.
yeah this review is almost shilly in comparison to how bad the price perf is
Jayz2Cents said it was a good card but took the review down. He had an apology video up now lul
TPU gave it a highly recommended badge 😂😂
@@LaskaiTamas23 people donate to hot tub streamers so people will still buy this.. gamers are .....idk what to even call them these days
LTT needs to make the sarcasm more obvious.
My decision on buying a 6800XT at $540 is getting better and better. Thanks NVIDIA.
You have 6900xt for that price actualy.
Yeah same. Buying a Nvidia card is just a waste of money if you care about price.
Yeah but you dont get DLSS and RT. And I turn those on in literally every game on my 3070ti. It doesnt hurt performance enough to notice. If you have a Radeon you're basically playing on low settings for every game. The difference between RT on and off is way bigger than low to ultra.
@@scubasausage RT is sweet, or can look great, but it's not at all like Low to Ultra, guess you've never played at lower settings - it's a cherry on top for more realistic lighting and it's not even always worth it. Some games certainly look great and can benefit quite a bit from it though.
Also, the 6800XT can handle some RT, even though surely not at RTX 3080 levels.
@@dennisjungbauer4467 You are incorrect, RTX on is a way bigger difference than from low to ultra. You must never have used ray tracing before.
Also a 6800 can do ray tracing but not at playable frame rates. It gets regularly beaten by a 2070 when you turn RT on.
It would be interesting to see the performance uplift of GPUs just from driver updates - a comparison of a few cards from all 3 manufacturers, one year after the GPU release.
I've read that intel gained a lot, so maybe the older reviews are not the best to base a buying decision off of them.
God i hope Intel continue their efforts in the GPU market.....
A new player really is needed...
I wonder if they'll go google and call it quits after just one full card. What I don't get is how they can do so badly. They company has made integrated graphics since forever, and CPUs since time.
@@gorkskoal9315 they are not quitting, as an arc a770 16gb LE owner they are making strides with driver improvements, battlemage will be legendary
@@gorkskoal9315 Intel has atleast 2 more generations from what they said a couple months ago. I just hope Battlemage is a good price to performance like ATI/AMD used to be because many people would jump to it.
@@gorkskoal9315 Do so badly? Linus just showed were the A770 is beating the 4070ti in some task and not far behind in most. Drivers are constantly improving each month and the raw power within the card can surpass the 3070 in time, all for less $$$. I'd say they are doing amazing for a first time being serious in the GPU market. They are defiantly committed for two more gens being Battlemage and Celestial, Battlemage aiming for 4070 to 4080 performance from what I hear and Celestial probably on par with whatever 50 series mid range will offer (5060ti/5070) And will more then likely not increase much in price, maybe $400 to $500 for the top end model. I think once more people feel safe with the drivers, which are already pretty stable, they will sell good AND iNTEL will continue to keep new Arc cards rolling out.
@@gorkskoal9315 What meme echo chambers have you been staying in? The fact that the company only did IGPUs for so long is not only taken into consideration by the tech commentary space, it was a concern that Intel would have trouble tackling a discrete GPU after only having that as experience since iGPU =/= discrete GPU, especially a discrete GPU with all the features Intel was promising, and they'd have to compete with a duopoly with literal decades of experience with discrete GPU drivers.
And they did have trouble, so it very much was _not_ a surprise and people were shitting on them for the totally expected outcome. Intel actually did better than expected with the hardware being decent, since people were expecting they'd botch that too, and most of the problem being the expected driver inexperience and bullshit interface software. Shitting on them that became less loud with the driver improvements over the last several months.
This is why competition is important, because without it we have companies like Nvidia gouging us for GPU prices.
Wouldn't make a difference. People keep buying. They can slap a 5x increase of price at this point and it wouldn't hurt them at all, people have disposable income, or they save up for the latest and greatest GPU.
The money isn't even in the consumer market anymore.
They would be even worse!
We have competition. It's called AMD
Your wallet is king.
Keep hold of your money because someone will want to sell you something at some point. The decision is ultimately ours.
Well, the competition is busy sniffing glue and pricing their less appealing products at similarly high, rather than trying to gain marketshare with sensible prices
Looking forward to seeing RTX 5060-Super-Ti with 12 Gb and 32-bit bus aimed at 720p gamers at 60 fps ++++.
Technically, it should be 24 or 48-bit
12GB??? this is Ngreedia, it's gonna be 6GB GDDR4, at $600
Why can I only get 30 with the RTX 5060-Super-Ti? What gives?
@@thomaswinwood true, I didn't notice the lowercase b
Would be interesting to see how a 3060 ti with the 4060 ti's extra cache would compare. The 4060 ti clock speeds are pretty impressive tho. Wish my 3060 ti could hit 2.5ghz lol
4060 ti i like it
Hold on, gotta upgrade from the 3060 Ti to the 4060 Ti real quick.
(opens MSI Afterburner)
💀
imagine undervolting 4060ti tho
@@AnnoyingPenny My undervolted 3060 draws about 85W-115W tops (mostly around 70W), while delivering all of its performance. So 4060ti can probably be undervolted to about same level maybe even more.
@radomiami.....Best comment here. I actually lol'd.
This card is just straight up e-waste. Good job, Nvidia!
true
more like paperweights that think of circles and then commit suicide right after
not e-waste 4060 Ti 16GB would be a good buy at $299.
@@ambhaiji but it’s not 299 so it’s still garbage.
@@ambhaiji 4090ti would be a good buy at $699. what is your point?
Can confirm the 6700xt for 1440p is a great card, best bang for your buck in the price range for someone who doesn't care much about ray tracing.
6750XT owner, can defenetly recommend that one too.
@@brutallica2944 Same, managed to pick one up on Newegg for the same price as a 6700XT and couldn't be happier with how it's performing at 1440p
I really hope 7700xt is sub 400, that would be such a smack for the 4060 ti
How would it work with a 5120X1440 240 hz like the samsung oddysey g9?
@@hampuswirsen7793 it would work just fine, but don't expect to play most games anywhere near the 240fps mark. Esports games with lower settings and/or fsr you may get close but most newer games at 1440p high I get between 100-170
Would love if you specified whether the 1060 is 3 or 6 gb. Great review though, fair and informative
Honestly looking back, the humble RTX 3060 with 12GB of VRAM was an absolute miracle that did not get appreciated nearly enough at the time.
This ^ I bought a 3060 12gb to keep my old gaming PC going. Then built a new gaming pc with a 3070ti a year later. That 8gb 3070ti isn't looking too good now, but not like there's much alternative in the 40 series anyway 😂
I have a 3060TI and it's been really good so far but I'd sure love some more memory
Yes it was. A lot of people wanting to justify the 3070 and 3080 say the 3060 should've been an 8GB VRAM card, not realizing its all the Ampere stack that needed way more VRAM and the 3060 was the only gem of the crop
I got a 3060 for my first "workstation" PC and it feels pretty good to be able to run UE5, Photoshop, and ten different browser tabs without it breaking a sweat. You really feel all that space in VRAM.
I think you mean the 6700XT. Really, pretty much the entire RDNA2 lineup at current prices looks absolutely amazing compared to the current generation from both companies right now.
AMD for the VRAM and straight rasterized performance, Nvidia for the features like DLSS 2 and 3, and Intel with significant performance upgrades at each driver release. Prices are high right now, but if the market drops it could become a very interesting time to buy.
I jumped on the bandwagon in January for the Intel Arc A770 16gb card, it was a great buy and looked beautiful. I had all kinds of issues though using teams conference calls for work with the system freezing up during my calls. Sometimes it would freeze just out of the blue, so I worked with Intel for months with the latest drivers each month. When I upgraded from Windows 10 to Windows 11 with the May 4502 driver, all was good until this past month with the latest driver. Now I got Blue screen re-boots a few times a day. I tried a clean install going back to the 4502 driver, but this did not resolve the problem. I finally decided to take the Intel Arc A770 out of my system and replaced it with the RTX 4060 ti. My system is working better than ever now, even though my GPU has 8gb less ram. This video really has opened my eyes to some things, but my system boots faster as well as opens and runs everything faster and better than with the Arc A770 and this card was only $50 more.
This gen of cards is the best advertisement for RX6000 cards AMD could've gotten.
why?
I would have gotten 4070 if it weren't for the 12gb. So i went with a 7900xt
fr
@@groenevinger3893 bro Nvidia fucked up so bad, that it made AMD's last gen 6000 series GPU look like even better option, and with the huge price cut you can get a 4070 type GPU for less than a 3060ti price.
@@Justachamp772 So actually you are saying you can better buy the 4070?? So why even start talking about the 6000 generation? Amd still lacks RT.
Any chance of an ARC revisit video soon? Would really love to hear your team's thoughts on how much the drivers have improved.
I know some people with the card, it is still a heavily buggied mess, but it has improved a lot. I absolutely do not recommend the card for non-tech savvy people or people without patience for crashes and bugs, since you will experience a lot of those, and it will take years for them to solve the majority of them, if Intel doesn't drops the venture first, but when you hit a game that is not bugged (usually DX12) they are a great bang for the buck.
For the less adventurous the RX 6500 XT, RX 6600 and RTX 3060 12GB stands on the same price ranges with comparable performance and way better energy efficiency, though, but the Intel offerings might potentially improve past their performance level with the time, or not, time will tell. The A350 is also nice if you need cheap AV1 encoding for less than $150 bucks, but the card is kinda doo doo for gaming.
I think they may wanna wait until Intel releases either another huge driver update or another card altogether.
notels snarc gpdont?It's emulating direct x9 and is, frankly, a bug ridden pile of shit compared to the other options. at an effective 400 dollars, before tax and shipping you can get a 3060ti, 3060, 1060ti and 1060, and well you get the idea a few cards that do just about as well without half the suck.
As someone daily driving the A750 it's perfectly fine. I've had no issues playing anything (Ark, Warcraft 3, Rocket League, Tomb Raider, CyberPunk and GTA5 mainly) - I never had any issues from day one though about a year ago when I bought it.
@@gorkskoal9315 Don't they now use dxvk in their drivers to translate D3D9 to Vulkan?
My RX 6700xt aged very well. At the time of purchasing, I was disappointed that the 3070 was out of stock. But in hindsight, it was a great purchase
As a 3070 user, it's also aged very well, if you can even call 2 years "aging". So not only is Nvidia being beaten by amd, its being beaten by itself from just recently lol.
Edit: not saying this to be an nvidia fanboy, i only got it because i had a great opportunity by getting a prebuilt with it, and I actually use DLSS 2.0
@@calmkat9032You know they messed up if not only their competitor is held their own against you but your oldee product lineup beats your newer ones 😂
@@calmkat9032 "So not only is Nvidia being beaten by amd, its being beaten by itself from just recently lol."
That's due to NVidia's new 'Self-Flagellating' architecture.
@@paulbantick8266nvidia's architecture was soo good, but their scalped price margins were too high to ignore, so they shifted their dies up a tier to upsell us consumers :(
I'm looking at getting the 4060 ti in its single fan option. I don't really see really anything that compares to its performance for its size. I have a compact set that I use to take to place on the the go when I need to.
Nvidia did a great job with making me consider going with ARC. Which I never thought I’d consider. Thanks Nvidia!
16gb arc enjoyer here, if you value peace of mind don't do it. If you like at least a tiny amount of tinkering you can do it. If you want sff build with arc like me- fuck no
@@remeuptmain This isn’t twitter ya degen
@@Gajaczek93 "enjoyer" > proceeds to display discontent. I 100% believe you are indeed an arc owner.
Been using an ARC 770 for a while now and it's been great!
Always Blue
feels good to see Intel making its way up into the "worthy of being compared with" list
really excited to see Battlemage
If it releases early enough I will probably buy it, if it lines up with when I upgrade. Arc a770 if I can get a black friday deal, hopeful.
@@Blackfatrat I thought of getting one for my new build as well, but it still isn't available in my country. Hope in 5 years we'll do our mini scrapyard war with an A770 and a 13700K
We might actually get to see a shake up in the graphics industry next generation thanks to Intel. A770 Made me really excited for battle mage as well, Intel is crushing it!
I would buy if they had more powerful gpus, but right now I can't justify going from a 3060 to a A770
@@MrMaddog2004subscribe Then you must be excited for Intel battlemage?
Video idea - now that Nvidia's whole 4000 series lineup is pretty much out, could be a good time for a "patient gamers" update. I bought my GTX 1080 new for $500 and have just recently started to feel like an upgrade could be warranted, for many of the same reasons this 4060ti is such a massive miss. But with how crazy prices are, it feels really hard to make a decision - spend about what I did last time to get, what, the same card but with DLSS and ray tracing? Not really worth it, but then to actually get an upgrade I've gotta look at potentially twice the cost, which has me feeling like my "80ish fps on carefully configured mediumish settings" is worth waiting another year.
In any case, could be a great video to actually put data behind those feelings that I'm sure many of us have. How do previous gen's popular cards (980/1080/ti, 2070s, etc.) fit into the current lineup? Is there anything it makes sense to upgrade to?
Yup. As someone with an e-waste 980 Ti…these reviews tell me nothing. I’m just waiting until something shockingly good comes out.
I went from a 780 to a 2060 on the same 4770k w/mobo (ten year old build) and just recently built a new computer with a 7800X3D and 4060ti. Frankly, I plan to upgrade again if VRAM becomes an issue, but I have a feeling it won't because I don't really play these weird ass 'triple A' single player games that seem to take five thousands gigs of vram for no reason other than they can. Most games are CPU bound anyways and you are always better off manually adjusting graphics to find a sweet spot instead of just smacking ultra and hoping for the best because your card has a new number in front of it. I found the cache to be a bonus combined with the processor cache size and my games run incredibly well at 1440p.
You know, if they'd shipped it as the 4050 Ti for $250, they'd have a winner on their hands.
Heck if they shipped it as 4060 at 300, it would still be a winner...
250? Keep dreaming
@@chilldoc9638 where
@@hirakuotaku5386 in your head, because you're not getting it anywhere else for that price
@@chilldoc9638 no shit that's why they said "if" vlearly Nvidia is likely never selling GPUs at that price point ever again
If I was NVIDIA I would be pretty damn embarrassed to see the 6700XT go toe to toe with the 4060TI. Lets hope AMD doesn't screw up the 7600 and 7700 pricing so the whole 4060 series can be totally irrelevant.
It would be an easy win for AMD, launching their mid tier cards at a competitive price. 6700XT and 6800XT are already really good deals, make the 7000 series a little bit better without being greedy and Nvidia will have to rethink their strategy.
it goes toe to toe in raster only, add in literally any other factor and the 6700xt loses big time.
@@oxfordsparky your point?
@@oxfordsparky In ray tracing the 6700xt has the 12 gigs, so when even more and more Ray tracing workloads use more then 8gb, the 4060ti will be completely unusable, maybe the 16gb card is more useable but it really depends on the ray tracing load on if it is heavy on the bus or not, while the 6700xt gets some framerate in ray tracing compared to the 4060ti 8gb. In Content creation, a 4060ti (16gb variant) probably compares to or beats 3080 noting that a 4070 beats a 3090ti in content creation and probably beats a upcoming 7950xtx & 7900xtx in blender, So that point still stands.
AMD needs to price the 7600 below the price of the OG 4060 with performance in between it and the 4060ti Ie: Peformance around a 6700xt. I think a good price for a 4060/4060ti killer would be between $200-$280.
The Arc A770 has been getting huge performance upgrades since release and it would be an interesting video to see how far its come since. Probably not a "30-Day Challenge" video, but a Value Proposition Card compared to others around it's class currently.
Is ARC a seperate company or part of AMD??
@@awesomestuff2496 It's intel's graphics card division
But isnt Intel scaling down their GPU division operations? How long can they continue this run of performance increases?
Intel is a bit of a dark horse in this GPU space, but we all should absolutely be cheering them on.
@@scroopynooperz9051 As far as I know, those were rumors as word got out that Intel was closing or downscaling their GPU Division.
BUT Intel has since dispelled the rumors and released a diagram saying that they will work on GPUs from Battlemage (B-Series) up to their Druid (D-Series) Architecture. It's at least guaranteed that Battlemage will come out by the end of 2024.
This.
To be honest I think that the new cards are great considering how much less power they use. I hope they will continue that trent with future releases. Only downside is the price at the moment, but it will come down around black friday and xmass maybe. I hope so at least. Still... I don't get people that would consider a 6650xt or 3060ti over this one with the reason being that it is much cheaper. Well, yes, maybe if you buy a card for one or two years. If you game on the 4060ti you'll get a bit more performance while costing you less then the cheaper models in the long run due to the energy savings.
That is so true. The price is garbage but the higher 40xx atleast are fine. I run a 4090 in cb2077 psycho Pathtracing with framegen on 90fps while drawing 340-370 Watts.
Those cards are sooo efficient it's amazing
If you live with your parents, you go for the best AMD card you can buy because you don't care about electric bills and air conditioning costs! And when bitcoin goes back up...the 4060 Ti and 5060 Ti and 6060 Ti will cost $2,000+. So think of your 4060 Ti as a speculative investment! rofl!
Another thing to consider would be AMD's FSR 3.0, which is apparently their DLSS Frame Gen equivalent, and supposed to come out sometime in 2023.
which will probably not look as good BUT it will work on all cards!!
Thanks for the great review of the RTX 4050ti. This gpu seems very reasonable at $250 and I’m sure the budget market will be happy to finally have a marginal upgrade over the 2060 Super.
This needs to be said outloud.
Jokes aside... even the 2060 super has 8gb of vram, lol. This card isn't an upgrade for anyone unless they're on a 1060 or older imo, and even then, still better options for the price.
2023 GPU market (Good Ending)
can't wait to buy this 3 years from now when the price finally fits the specs it offers.
The 6060 will be out by then and nvidia will be buying up and burning the 40 and 30 series cards 😂
No they will do what they did with 4070
Just stop producing gpu’s at all
If no one buys any of them why keep making them right?
It’s not like they could decrease price or actually improve generational performance
I fear it just won't have sufficient VRAM to be viable by then. Hopefully that's not the case.
Right, like the 3060ti can be bought new for waaaay under the MSRP. Stop dreaming and leave Nvidia behind
lmao dude... in 3 years this will be trash. Its near trash now tbh.
Guessing Nvidia said reviews couldn't compare it to the 3070? 4060ti has basically same performance as the 3070 for up to half the watts. Would have been a good take. Now that the prices are below msrp, not a bad buy.
I just realised the 4060ti has fewer cores than the 3060ti, and the two things it does better are L2 cache and watts, but decreased power for the same performance is expected when decreasing the size of the transistors on the die but they also took away a lot of the other things that would take more power anyway.
Happy to see the Arc A770 punching here and there, even if it's a mixed bag of results all the time. I expected it to catch up at 1440p and over. Oh well. EDIT: In GN's review it matched the 4060Ti on Cyberpunk at 4K. Not bad!
with intel's engineering team I am kinda looking forward to what they do with their battlemage architecture.
For card priced at 250 USD it's a steal
If I switch from NV, I'm hoping it will be Arc... But I like top end cards, so we will see.
@@remeuptmainyou responding to everyone's comment with the same shitty ratio comment get a grip kiddo 😂😂
@@KarrasBastomiIf AMD didn't exist. Unfortunately, amd exists and their cards are way faster at $250
It's safe to say that AMD really did well in coming back with a bang in the market
Yep
Love my 6750 XT and probably soon 6950 XT. Imo no one should be buying nvidia rn cause of the insane greed and afwul price to performance compared to team red. Dont know why so many people are still buying cards like the 3060 which is awful value
how lol? they got destroyed in the top end , they have yet to launch a lower end card than the 7900xt and xtx
7900 xtx is better than 4080 and it's cheaper
Well for the last gen cards at least. 6xxx are kinda getting the last laugh here.
All the videos I've seen testing the 4060ti show it performing really well in games like cyberpunk (with DLSS) and Red Dead Redemption 2, I currently have a 1070 and Im intending on upgrading to a new build with the 4060ti 8gb which I could just swap out for the 16gb version or a 4070 sometime in the future if I really needed to if there really is a VRAM issue which from what I've seen there actually isn't. I haven't even run into any VRAM issues with my 8gb 1070 at 1440p, it's just that its just not powerful enough anymore and I want access to DLSS and RTX.
Did you get the 4060ti? How is the performance? I am on a 1060 6gb and 4060ti would be a 3 gen leap for me.
@@smeet3010 no. I got a 4070 and it was well worth it
I use my pc mostly for racing simulation like iRacing and Assetto Corsa... and with a Ryzen 3600 and an RX 5600XT I'm getting 120-140fps at medium settings in 1440p (85hz) and I don't feel like I'm missing out on enough of the graphical power to justify spending the kinds of prices they're asking for something more powerful. The beautiful part is I bought this rig in 2017 with the Ryzen 1400 and an RX570 in it... didn't even need a bios flash on the mobo. it was as plug and play as a cpu and gpu swap can be... I've got $887 bucks into this thing total lol.
This card is the 4050 and should be MSRP at $249.99. $279.99 for the 16 GB version. AND discounted a few months in by $50.
not in my wildest dream 😂
I totally agree with you. They're slowly trying to move the line so that you'll think this is 4060 but it is more like a 4040
Or should come as a bonus when buying a pack of Doritos
Impossible!!! If they do that, how could Jensen afford his new leather jacket???
Nvidia is pulling the 4080 12GB/16GB model scheme again with the 4060 Ti 8GB/16GB models.
Just a friendly reminder that the rx 6950XT is going for about $600 still. It has gaming performance on-par with a 3090, only suffering in ray-tracing and productivity tasks.
If you're primarily a gamer, it's really worth taking a look at this card, it's an unbeatable value.
Very high energy consumption though.
@@pauloa.7609 better than 3090 however
@@aravindpallippara1577 true but that doesn't lower it's outrageous power consumption, right?
@@remeuptmain true, I consider anything below a 4090 a waste of sand but I don't want to pay 2000+ euros for it even if I could buy literally 100 cards because that would be burning money away. These cards need to be half of the price to be worth it, all segments, from both nvidia and amd.
@@pauloa.7609 So the only card you think is good you are too poor for. Nice man
Still seems like there is a legit boost from the 2060 if you still have that, and I don't really see the 6700 costing less on amazon unfortunately.
I'm debating on changing from my AMD Radeon vega 56 to a new card, either a 3080-3080ti Im not really looking for the 40 series, should, would the 6700/xt be a good deal, for streaming, and gaming at 1080p (I may make a second pc for streaming)
1080 like valorant, for a good 300fps
which one would you guys at LTT and community would recommend, looking for a brand new gpu, I don't mind second hand for the 30 series 🤔
I'm hesitating to go for AMD because of drivers updates, because they kinda abandoned the 6000 series for their 7000 series 🤔
"We realized that we were giving consumers cards that are too future proof... so we decided to make each new generation become obsolete in a years time!"
It costs more than I want to spend and it won't even play today's games the way I am interested in playing them. Nevermind future proof is failing now
I feel like it should've been mentioned that the 4060 TI has a x8 PCIE 4 connection.
Would've been great to see you testing the 4060 TI on a PCIE 3 system to see how much performance might be lost.
I guess that’s part of the agreement
Nvidia would never allow that
Like they wouldn’t allow similar priced higher tier amd cards shown in the same chart
The card will not bottleneck the PCIe lanes or bandwidth on PCIe 3 so the difference is minimal, almost within margin of error.
x8 is whatever, x4 is where the fun (read: not fun) begins.
@@thomasboob559this ain't sponsored boob boy
You don't lose any on 3.0, just a bit lower 1% lows
I think it great for me that my 1080ti that I only paid $200 for has the same benchmarks as the 3070 plus an extra 3 to 4gbs of VRAM. The only problem is it runs kinda hot. I have an 11th gen i5 so not everyone will get the same results.
Do undervolt, my bro
Any suggestions on what gpu I should get,I had in mind the 4060 ti and it was 379 and I had made a pretty good build for $900.Which gpu should I get.
6700xt/6750xt
This generation of cards (both companies) is a tough sell... the more (generations) we progress the more caveats we hear to justify the price...
The 1080ti was a miracle. Best purchase ever.
They'll be the best card to buy at 2025
I think AMD are better but they've both lost the plot with their pricing, i've got a 2080 and see no reason to upgrade
@@mrcaboosevg6089 You see no reason to upgrade from a 2080? Do you not play newer games? I am on a 2080ti and absolutely ready to be done with it. Ordered a 4090.
@@mrcaboosevg6089 2080 is just bad for modern gaming. 20 series is a flop
still rocking my 1080ti as well!
dude this graphics for the graphs are absolutely SPOT ON. LTT have clearly listened to their community about feedback on how clear the graphics could be, and have made massive improvements. thank you so much
@@muyoso that sounds like a personal problem you have 😂. Are you unhappy in life
@@muyoso This is a video, not a presentation. You know you can pause right?
@@muyoso It's different approaches, and that's OK. GN includes a large variety of cards, but LTT reruns benchmarks for every card in every review. One isn't better than the other, but it shouldn't be surprising that GN's breadth and depth of data is bigger.
@@muyoso those are different styles. GN shows a lot but i have to pause every time he shows a graph otherwise i will miss something important. LTT shows a lot less, but what they show i can see at a glance.
I do wish they would skip the weird squares in the background, makes it harder to look at the content.
edit: it's the LTT logo... makes it looks like crap in 480p.
I have a 2070 super currently, and I was thinking of picking up the 4060 TI due to price point. I think your video has told me that choice.
Can I just say how glad I am that Intel finally has a viable GPU product? The more competition, the better imo, AMD can't take on Nvidia alone.
4060 ti i like it
Steve at GN said this card is "bordering on a waste of sand," and honestly, I think that's more accurate than you're willing to get on this review.
Yeah, definitely disappointed in LTT on this one. This card simply is not good value.
Gotta keep Nvidia happy so they can keep getting review samples lmao
@@His_Noodly_Appendages Not good value but it's a good card in itself. That's what they said. Get something else, but if price was better this would be good.
@ww7285 do you get off on hating. This wasn't a positive review the conclusion is literally that the pricing is designed to get you to spend more money than you should but that luckily the competition at this price is pretty good even including intel. How can this be anything but negative when one of the conclusions is maybe try ark instead.
It's on pat with the 11th gen Core CPUs! Actual true waste of sand, since 10th gen was generally better in every way... But this GD Furry60 shit is coming real close. Lol! I know the 8x vs 16x thing is probably not a huge deal for most... But fuck me! Who thought that would have been a good decision? Simply from an online trolling standpoint! I intend to make the fuckin fun outta that... And the decrease bus... And... And. . ..... WTF?
it might be only 10% faster, but the most important part. And this is the part that really matters. Its profit margins are 100% more than the previous card.
Thanks for the leather.
Can you give me a 4090? I'll give you a pretty leather jacket and I'll lie about the 4060Ti being good.
Nice!
Power consumption, heat and noise are big for me. I don't know if I speak for many PC gamers, but I tend to run discarded professional workstations as a platform for my gaming PC's. I can usually get them for free after they are a few generations old. These PC's while powerful and able to support discrete GPU's, they do not have tons of airflow and also their power supplies don't have the same wattage or PCIe cables as aftermarket gaming PCs do. For me, staying well below 200W for the GPU is a hard requirement. I am finally able to replace my 1070ti with something that is nearly twice as powerful while staying in (actually below) my existing card's 180W thermal envelope. The same cannot be said for the AMD cards or even the 4070 series.
I feel like I am back in 1998 again. Nvidia is selling cards for $400 with 128bit memory buses, and Intel is the budget option. The only thing missing is 3dfx. Wish they would come back, we need some competition. One can hope :D
The moral of the story is that if you're able to find RTX on a deal, then you can be 100% sure that there is a RX card somewhere that performs same or even better with lower price. With is only NVIDIA's fault and nobody's else. Great work!
"Yesterday's performance for yesterday's price!", I feel like the prices of used 3060ti's and lower won't go down much with the release of this one, just no insentive. :(
unless you do any pro work and need those CUDA and AI cores
Nvidia's cards always commanded a premium because features and fanbois
@@aleksandarlazarov9182 I think it goes "Yesterday's performance for tomorrow's price" but yeah... The whole value of 4000 series is so bad that prices of last-gen barely moved (at least where I live). Also, there are not that many people upgrading so it's also harder to find something used from 3000 series.
@@AdamKuzniar Yeah, the CUDA stuff from NVIDIA has great support from any software in existence and there is no denying it, and only then there is some kind of AMD acceleration (but also probably inferior anyway)
But that's kinda the issue as NVIDIA has so much profit from the enterprise that needs CUDA acceleration as well as AI stuff that I don't see just why they're treating the general customer in such a bad way for giving us such bad value products just to make it feel more premium :(
I feel like only self-employed people would want to seriously use CUDA or AI acceleration on something like a 70 series card or lower just because they already had that card anyway. Any serious business would go straight for 4080 or 4090 or some Quadro thing as time equals money. Those same businesses can also justify spending such a ridiculous amount of money for a 4090's xd
I'm so happy to see Arc finally getting some recognition. It's just been hated on all across CZcams.
Ok as an Intel Arc A770 LE owner it is very much deserved. This card doesn't do well enough in modern games vs an RX 6600 to justify your entire library of older games being a buggy mess that doesn't work at all 20% of the time due to game breaking bugs. I've had the card 1 month because I listened to everyone complain about VRAM, and who cares about VRAM when the experience is literally garbage. Intel has 3 different programs to control the cards software and the card can't even boot correctly from sleep mode 8 months after launch. The performance is only sometimes good in optimized Direct X12 brand new sponsored games, and it is a joke for everything else. I replaced an RX 480 8gb and I feel like it did a better job than the ARC card. While I may only be getting 40 ish FPS, its better than playing a glitchy mess with high FPS because of emulation. The AV1 encoder also doesn't work half the time in OBS for no apparent reason either. Theres entire forum posts filled with bugs that are known for months and they will never get to them because the ROI is not just worth it for them. Just buy the RX 6600 for 200$ on a budget and upgrade whenever you have an issue. Because think of this. Spend 200$ now keep the 80-150$ you'd spend to get to the RX 6700/6750XT series, throw it in a stock market portfolio and use it to buy a brand new RX 8600XT realistically or something like what that might be. It'll be the latest product with the latest feature set as well.
@@CleonofAthens wow its still bad? I thought the drivers were good at this point.
@@poochyenarulez meh I'd give it another year to smooth out. Point being that the Arc cards are going to age much better than this piece of shit card. There is not improvement to come for the 4060ti, this is it. It's done, it's garbage forever, but Arc still has room to stretch, and provided Intel stays true to supporting their GPU division it will get better.
@@RyTrapp0 it's not going to take nearly as long as you'd expect. This may be hard to believe, but Nvidia basically had to nuke all driver optimizations after Turing. This is also why post Turing a significant number of older titles encounter strange artifacting or similarly terrible DX8/9 performance when compared against older generations of cards. The only exception to this being the rare few titles which are still popular and on DX9, which amounts to essentially none now that CS has moved to source 2.
@@poochyenarulez As someone else who uses Arc... they're better... 😐 They're not "dumpster fire" tier like before January, but seeing as how they now just got to the point of having Arc Control launch at start without requiring UAC and now enabling fan control, they have quite a ways to go. Granted, Intel has put in a lot of leg work to fix them, but starting from so far behind means that DX11/10 performance is a bit janky. DX9/VK isn't great either, though that might just be because I play janky map games and I have the thing clocked as high as it will go while not BSOD'ing every five seconds. It's considerably better than at launch. Also, DX12 performance is insane.
I personally don't stream, so I don't know how nice it plays with OBS, but in Handbrake the thing is a beast.
So the 4060ti is the 3060ti oc?
Question is how good is this card at streaming vr games to twitch and on top of that running some obs overlays and a vtuber and how much power is that gonna draw and or heat up your room/pc
1. Yes NVIDIA is better than AMD and streaming. But AMD will get there. It won't be running, but it will walk there.
2. One of the few reasons to buy this waste of sand is the power consumption. But it doesn't matter for most people in most countrys
3. If you get a good card(instead of a card with dollar store cooler), heat shouldn't be too much of a problem.
This review honestly feels more positive than it is supposed to be.
everyone else shit on the card and linus gave nvidia the gluck gluck gluck
ltt isn't a trusted reviewer anymore, i used to like them but they really are kind of the ign of the hardware world
This was shameful from Linus...
I’m confused why they didn’t include the 3070. If they did like HWUB did it would show consumers that at 1440p the 3070 more often then not beats it and look how well the 3070 held up…
yeah, you know who Nvidia is paying tho
I actually got a killer deal when I got my 6700XT (was over $100 cheaper than the 3060 non-Ti at the time) - and can 100% agree, as long as you don't need ray tracing, it holds its weight insanely well without breaking the bank.
I've turned on Ray tracing on my 6700xt and it works fine. Totally usable. Nvidia does not have the monopoly on Ray tracing
@@SinisterSlay1 oh, it's definitely usable with it, it just takes more of a performance hit from it than nVidia last I tried it.
@@xenstence AMD shill
Bugs, glitches, crashing, half your library barely works.. Buy a 3060, you will be amazed how optimized Nvidia is
@@xenstence OK shill. Have you played any real games? Games not made specifically for AMD powered consoles
hey you guys in the comments know it all so im asking you!
currently i am running the rtx 3060ti and i do alot of stuff in terms of ai video upscaling, image generation and also game a lot(duh!)
the 8gb just wont cut it and i am thinking about upgrading
i would be okay with minimal graphic improvement because it is the ai stuff that takes the most time and resources
would dlss 3 be enough to justify the 4060 ti(16gb) in terms of graphic when it really is the ai improvements that i am looking for?
it feels like this card made exactly for the purpose i need it for
the 4070 is just out of my price range and i dont know if the 12gb compare in the long run against the 16gb?
thanks in advance
I still don't think the 4060ti 16GB is still worth it with a severely cut down memory bus (tends to be important for AI work). Best bet is to save for a 4070, you'll have a much better experience and will last a lot longer. Good luck!
12GB is generally still pretty good, far better than 8GB. For me at least, the maximum amount of vram I've used is about 15GB, although I run multiple streams of video at once while playing games like the last of us at 4K
@@minicam2 thanks man 👍
Do reference cards and founders edition cards always have the same memory interface width, or can reference cards have more?
NVidia's engineering effort seems to be all-in on product segmentation rather than product quality. The cache+reduced memory bus allows decent game performance while hamstringing the professional/AI workloads and so allows for better upselling to the higher-tier product.
Hey, it's a loss for the consumer, but they're not cannibalizing their products either - something AMD has already stumbled on a couple times with their Zen chips.
Almost nobody is buying this to use with AI or "professional" workloads.
@@squidwardo7074 Notwithstanding the gimped memory capacity, I/O, and PCIe connectivity, the core has about the same performance as the RTX A4000 professional card, which is currently retailing for about $930. So, yeah, it could easily bite into professional sales if it wasn't so neutered.
@@squidwardo7074 My university loved to buy Nvidia's gaming cards for machine learning research back when I was there 6 years ago. Quadro and Fire Pro cards are way too expensive for some organizations.
@@jamesalexander5559 I doubt that's more than 5% of sales
6700XT is the one to go for at this price range.
should i swap my evga 1070 FTW2 for a msi 4060 ti ventus 2x black 16gb?
I've never seen a more upbeat review that didn't recommend a product.
One question I didn't see answered was if the card should have been a released at a different skew and price. A lot of people seem to think that as a 4050 or 4050 TI it would have been a good deal.
The 4060 Ti made me realise how insane the value and the price to performance ratio of the 3060 Ti back in 2020. I was lucky to get one at MSRP when it was launched.
same straight from EVGA before they stopped making nvidia GPUs for good (LMAO)
But the card was crippled like 3070 and ti with mere 8 gigs knowing you’ll be forced to upgrade much quicker
@@pfizerpricehike9747 3060 xc has +4GB vram with +36% bandwith compared to the 4060 Ti. but lower L2
@@pfizerpricehike9747 Yeah 8 GB of VRAM was a concern even back then in 2020 but it wasn't as big of a deal unlike today.
HEll, I'm still enjoying my 1080ti purchased on its release day, which can still render most new games at 60fps at max settings as long as you're happy wit 1080p resolution, which is the best my TV/Monitor is capable of anyway.
I bought a 6750XT in January for about $430 including tax. I was worried when the budget RTX cards released I was going to be upset I didn't wait. I want to take this time to thank Nvidia for not making me feel bad about my purchase, in fact, I'm happier with my purchase now than I was a week ago! 😂
I paid $1,400 for my 6900xt during the shortages. I didn't feel too bad at the time as it was only $400 over MSRP, but I felt worse later on when everything came back in stock. Now with these absolute lackluster releases I don't feel so bad. Also since 6900xt's have gotten so cheap I'm not afraid to OC the piss out of my card now.
@@YourLordMobius I overclocked the snot out of my 6750XT basically as soon as I got it since I got it for pretty much a steal, especially since it was the Red Devil variant.
I just recently oc'ed my 6900xt with the morepowertool. Peak it's pulling 395w and won't pull anymore even though it's set to limit at 450w. It's on water so no worries there. Stable in most applications at 2800 mhz. So yeah, I got a little extra performance out of mine LOL.
@@YourLordMobius I'd say! My buddy has a 6950XT and he's a little bit computer illiterate. I tried to talk him into letting me OC it, but he's super worried I'm going to screw it up lol
@@tbthunderer ah yes, the old "you could blow it up if you OC" fear. Only way you're going to blow one up is by overvolting. Even with the massive amp draw on mine the voltage is still relatively tame, and it just won't pull any more power even though it's completely unrestrained.
Edit: Radeon cards have always been notorious for allowing crazy high amp draws. Even without an insane OC and on-air my Vega 56 used to pull 550w with a mild OC.
Hey is the AMD Ryzen 7 7700X 32gb ddr5 ram in combo with the RTX 4060ti a good combination for light gaming and obs CZcams streaming? Thanks in advance I'm new to all this btw haha!
Just wanted to say BIG thank you for highlighting the graphics card in question in the graphs of this video! I don't often comment on CZcams videos, but this improvement is so worth it! Big praise to the people who create the graphs ❤
I appreciate the older cards in the graph. A 1060 is probably where a lot of people buying these will be upgrading from
I'm still running a GTX 1660 Super ... and I intend to continue doing so for a while.
@@Grumpy_old_Boot My GTX780 was still running things fine until 2 weeks ago it died and my friend gave a his old 1660 as he felt bad 😅
@@cncgeneral
Yup, as long as you don't have a high fidelity display with g-sync or something like that, the middle class cards is plenty.
As things are going it doesn't seem that people will upgrade from the 1060 for a few years more.
@@cncgeneral how it died and how old it was? I'm curious about the life span of the PC components.
I just went from a 27' 1440p monitor to a 32' 4k monitor, and I'm really liking the difference for movies. I'm running it from a newish integrated graphics i5 laptop tho.
This seems totally awesome. Apparently more out of the next Ti version with more gigs and yeah who needs 4k. I'm more than happy at full res 🤣
An additional issue here that wasn't covered was textures completely failing to load on this card in newer games. I think overall these videos are good for a numbers to numbers comparison, but often times there's more to the story that other reviews are hammering on the gpu for. Textures shouldn't be failing to load on new titles for a $400 product.
Exactly, for a 400$ product which could be under 300$ (one tiny die!), I would be expecting atleast 12GB, a bit over 3070 Ti performance for a nice 1440p experience.
Yup, I watch LTT videos but I wouldn’t use them as a guide to buy a GPU ever. I’m glad for creators like HWUB and GN.
How is that related to the GPU
How is that the GPU's fault?
That's optimization dude
The VRAM concerns are valid because the current gen consoles have 16gb shared between textures and everything else. When they port these games to PC it translates to needing more than 8gb VRAM, especially if you turn texture details up. Native PC games might be a bit more optimized but simultaneously tech marches on and those games are going to need more VRAM anyway.
Yes, and it would be pretty pathetic if a graphics card that cost as much as a current gen console on it's own was forced to use settings that make it look worse than said console because of VRAM limitations.
seriously, it almost feels like nvidia lately is secretely spearheading sony's ps5 marketing campaign. Why play on PC at all when the GPU alone costs as much as an entire PS5 digital?
In this 4k world we're living in now the textures alone will eat up memory, without those 4k textures there's little point in even playing in 4k
@@mrcaboosevg6089 noibody is buying a 60 series gpu and playing at 4k...
@@squidwardo7074 They can handle 4k in a lot of games, 4k isn't that special any more
Feeling really good about my 3060Ti I got for $430 a year ago right now.
You would think Nvidia got the idea after unlaunching the 12GB 4080, but man was I mistaken. Seeing the predecessor actually beat it in certain resolutions was mind boggling. I'm convinced AMD will cease the opportunity as they usually do...
I was hoping you would include the 6800XT. It's a 16GiB card that will be in the same price range as the 4060 Ti, but with more memory.
Doesn't it also have faster rawspeed to? That might help a little for performance.
Wouldn't call $100 more in the same price range
@@squidwardo7074 I think most would though. Computer hardware pricing generally already varies that much for the same SKU just between retailers
@@kusucks991 Most of that is a waste of money for the lower end cards
@@squidwardo7074 I guess. The 4060ti 16GiB version is going to be at least $550. If it even gets released.
For me, the $100 for better performance and more RAM is worth it. I'm going to pull the buy it trigger to replace my GeForce 1080. What's amazing to me is that this 2 year old card bests nVidia's card for $100 difference. I understand they're not supposed to be comparable cards.
I looked up some used 6700XT cards, and they're $100 or more cheaper than the 4060 and 4060Ti. And these two cards are supposed to be comparable.
If Nvidia had put a decent width memory bus in this thing, it would probably be a bit more competitive. As it stands, they are not going to sell many of these things.
I don't think ngreedia gives a shit. Amd might be spanking them in the 1020-1440 raster user area, but that's what? 10 maybe 12% of nvidias target? Testla only needs the Cuda cores for their "ai" to work. I have no idea if they need bandwidth. render farms might need bus and clock speeds but those guys have more than enough cash just from 2hours of interest alone to buy up a fuckton of creem of the crop cards.
This is effectively e-waste at its price point.
The only thing I can see this being alright in is prebuilt PCs from the usual guys (HP, Acer and so on) or people who don't want to break the bank but need/want to upgrade.
The issue I see is people deciding to jack up the prices on 3060ti and so forth like the 2xxx series were.
@@gorkskoal9315 Steam survey shows that something like 77% of users are playing on 1080p still.
Thank you for including up to date comparative data for my current amd video card helping me realize that for my needs i don’t need an upgrade this generation.
Legit question here you mention the ultra now being a medium later could you argue that optimization will be that much better aswell that we could produce a game with those kinda of graphics for much less vram usage?
Would've been neat to see the RTX3070 in the list also. It's also a 8GB card, has a pricetag around the same as the 4060Ti and has bigger numbers overall.
They still need it to look somewhat decent 👀they also didn't really harp on the fact it loses to the 3060TI in some 4k games and is only like 5% faster at 1440p, but they need free gpus not paid ones. Still better review then Jay2Cents
the tragedy of the RTX 3070 is that it still could have been very relevant today. it has plenty of horsepower but totally kneecapped by that 8GB.
even just a 12GB RTX 3070 would probably badly embarrassing Nvidia's current offerings
@@silentwonder-chilled It is already bad for 1440p. 8gb isn't enough.
@@sudbtd That's a ridiculous statement. The fact it could be better if it had even 4gb more vram doesn't automatically make it bad. I've a 1080 that I still play 1440p on and it still performs fairly well on most modern games even though it's weaker than a 3070. And by fairly well i mean High 60+ FPS on most games, very rarely do I have to turn it down to medium.
I definitely don't recommend running out and grabbing one just because it still performs well as another 2-3 years that's probably not going to be the case anymore, but the point that just because it doesn't have 12 or 16gb of vram and loses a little performance because of that doesn't make it a bad card automatically still stands. The 3070 has similar performance to the 4060ti so if 1440p ultra 100+ fps on most games is bad.. yeah..
@@TheZanzou even though, on games like Jedi, the 3070 just cannot run? Ah yes. 8gb vram is "enough"
What makes this even better is that due to walking back the now 4070ti from it's original 4080 moniker, it's possible this was intended to be the 4070.
I haven't really been keeping up with GPU performance relative to each other but wouldn't the 3070 cream this card if it was called a 4070?
No,there wouldn’t be any 4070ti and the 4070 would have higher cuda corr
@@ilnumero1234 HAHAHAHA! Fanboy fantasy speculation! The chips were specced over a year ago in R&D. There's no chance the moniker change also changed CUDA core counts, and Nvidia has had x70ti tiers for about a decade now. So there was going to be one no matter what. At best - at absolute best - they removed an x70 Super variant for the change. Can't prove it though so it's speculation vs speculation. Mine's funnier though, so :P
@@ilnumero1234 copium
I wonder what the 4050 will be like
How does the RTX 3070 compare to the RTX 4060 Ti ?? (both are priced at $400)
I appreciate a balanced Outlook in a product review, but from a massive media outlet like ltt, I would have appreciated the same assertiveness that GN and HWunboxed showed. The result is still a balanced review, but in this launch context, ltt feels a bit overpositive.
Considering the 4070 costs at least around $745 and above here in India, instead of $600. I am so glad I got the 6700XT at the equivalent of 360 dollars last month. The 4060ti launch price will easily cross $500 here.
This! The silicon tax is way too real. For anyone thinking of buying a RTX 4000 card at msrp, no, they're not.
RX 6700XT is a great card, I've been using one for 6 months now with no problems. 3dsmax/CAD and plays new AAA unoptimized games pretty well.
Flipkart ❤
For the first time ever we got PC components for the same price as USA
@@KaranYadav-gr5xj I mean, on offer yes. We still pay a 16% tax
My 6700 XT looks better and better each time. I just wish I had waited a bit longer as I paid about 100 bucks more than I should have for it. Even still, Team Red is looking to be a winner here.
It's only money, no point dwelling on it as you'll have already made that $100 back.
I can relate man I bought my 6700xt for $400, but think about it this way: I bought the GPU in fall '22, and GPU prices are ALWAYS going to drop as time goes on, so no point about dwelling about it. You had the opportunity to use the GPU much earlier than a decent amount of people
Dude I got my 6700xt in Oct of 2021 for like 800 something. I look at it now and it has paid for it's self. I have no need to upgrade to a new GPU.
I would love a video if there isn't any( if there is i am sorry ) about the best gpus to pair with certain cpus released last year at least not something exact but for example i have a ryzen 5 7600x and i don't know if i should stick around 30 series or dream about 40 series or if AMD has a perfect match for it (As a note i have a 1660 for now and since is a clear bottleneck i want to upgrade din't have the buget for it when i chose the cpu and decided to wait for 40 series but now i don't know).
I guess Linus's resignation comes with a complementary ad once every 4 minutes and an ad pinned to the comment section.
See, this is precisely why I’m glad intel got in the game, because being able to punch up considering their pricepoint is exactly the reality check you need to know Nvidia’s pricing is completely out to lunch.
Nvidia literally doesn't care at this point. They are only in consumer cards for name recognition. They honestly might just stop making budget cards all together given how the data center market is going for them. Budget cards from now on will just be last gen stock.
@@TheEclecticDyslexic Which is fine by me, I just won’t ever buy them. They don’t have a value-add for me.
The only way to force Nvidia's prices down is if competition gets really fierce
Just don't buy NVIDIA
AMD cant even do that
its been pretty fierce if you ignore ray tracing performance. amd card hold their own now and much cheaper prices than nvidia equivalents.
@lonzo for mvp people like you are the peobl
The competition is more fierce than ever before so much so, if all you care about is gaming, this card is already 200 overpriced, if this thing sells then, it's because it offers good enough value or because the consumer isn't very smart.
I did catch a flaw in your review. Resizable BAR is NOT required for the GPU to use system memory. It's just that it will be even slower, since the GPU will essentially have to bankswitch, accessinly only X amount of system RAM at a time.
I don't have Resizable BAR, but my computer lists 2GB of shared memory for my GPU. Windows will actually allow you to share up to 50% of your main memory.
I also have seen at least some games that will reduce their memory requirements as much as they can under memory pressure. They can load in lower resolution textures, for example. It makes sense for a game to use more VRAM when available, even when it doesn't technically have to, just like how, say, Chrome will use more memory in a computer that has 16GB than one that has 8GB.
I'm convinced that Nvidia has gone into a tick tock cycle.
10 series - good performance
20 series - ray tracing / dlss
30 series - good performance
40 series - frame gen
50 series - good performance?
Would’ve like to see the 3070 included in the comparisons
It's faster.
But nvidia would not like that. So they did not include it.
No point in including another 8GB card you shouldn’t buy. Besides, helping them sell 3070s would have been doing Nvidia a favour and they don’t deserve any.
Its actual peak comedy that there's one guy still riding on the big old "LTT the Nvidia child company" bullshit and another explaining that LTT wants to do anything but help nvidia, right next to eachother
Made my day
It’s the same card.