080 Feel Flows First Impressions
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- čas přidán 31. 08. 2021
- The long-awaited Feel Flows box set is finally here! It did not disappoint! There's much to digest and much to discuss so this week's episode is mainly a "grab bag" of first impressions.
My favorite part so far is the extra 2 minutes or so of Wouldn't It Be Nice to Live Again. That sax solo on Riot makes me feel like I'm watching a early episode of SNL.
I'm loving that extra length version of "Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again" too! Absolutely beautiful stuff! It's a real highlight of the set! (Having hear this, it's hard to believe they ever put out the short version!)
You have a point about the sax solo on "Riot!" I don't think I'll ever hear it the same way again!
Thanks for the comments, Jason!
Love all the rare Dennis stuff! Also love that they remastered 'Soulful Old Man Sunshine'...without Carl's 'Shun-Shine" that he hated. Don't like that the binding cracked after only one read. I also said this on another site but if you have friends who think the Beach Boys are just an old surf group, then have them listen to the backing track of 'It's About Time'. That song rocks regardless of the era!
Sorry to have taken so long to respond to your comments, wcassady! For some reason, I didn't get the notification and I just ran across them now. I agree that the Dennis stuff is a highlight of the set! (It's a shame that so much of it has gone largely unheard until now!) I didn't know about Carl disliking the "Shun-Shine" bit and hadn't noticed that it was mixed out here. Thanks for pointing that out! Thanks for the excellent comments! Again, sorry a response too so long!
@@thebeachboysbasementwithst6444 No worries my friend. Since then I have listened to the new version several more times and I think I actually like the arrangement and mix on the first version that was mixed better than the 2021 version...even with Carl's flub lol.
@@wcassady Interesting! I need to do a side-by-side comparison! Great thing about a set like this is that I keep going back to it and hearing things I hadn't noticed. There's still a LOT to unravel! Good hearing from you!
Fantastic unpacking and review. And pleeeeease... bring on the early Dennis' track review. Would love to hear your take on them.
Thanks for the comments and feedback, Yankee! (I'm liking those Dennis tracks the more I listen to them! SUCH a shame he didn't get a solo album out in '71!) An episode on early 70s Dennis work would definitely be fun to put together! Thanks again, Yankee! I really appreciate hearing from you!
Discs 3 and 4 highlight just how gorgeous those Beach Boys harmonies were, particularly on Forever (track and backing vocals), the emotional highlight of the set for many.
I haven't listened to those discs in full yet but I have listened to "Forever." I agree! It's great to hear these details! Beautiful! Thanks for the comments, Joel!
Goes to show, no, PROVE the hidden depth of Dennis to any doubters.
"all i wanna do" accapella is STUNNING
Definitely! Thanks, Justinedwords!
"Susie Cincinnati" and "Good Time" always sounded out of place on their respective albums, but that was because they were leftovers from a different era. The Beach Boys were certainly not the only band to ever do that. Led Zeppelin put songs that were recorded 4 years earlier on one of their albums. There's a noticeable difference to my ears between songs that were recorded in 1970 and 1975-76. Thanks to "Feel Flows", these two songs are back with their own tribe
Excellent points, all 'round, ES! I know there are other examples from other artists of earlier work sounding out of place on later albums, but fitting in well with era in which it was recorded...damned if I can think of any right now though! I'm going to give this some thought. Thanks, as always, for the excellent feedback, ES!
Great review, and awesome Mike Nesmith t shirt!
Thanks, JL! And good eye spotting the Nez shirt!
Wow, you can tell this much-anticipated set was well-received, and stirred up many comments. It took QUITE some time to get clear through them and we haven't even reviewed the music yet :-)
There's definitely an awful lot to that set! I've been listening, off and on, since it was released and feel like I'm still really "getting to know it."
I was surprised at how good it all sounds. I think the best thing for me are the backing track and vocal tracks. It’s about time especially. Also I feel like the mix sounds so good it makes some of the songs feel new. San Miguel and Cotton Fields are currently blowing my mind. Love your videos. Keep going!
I agree! Glad you mentioned "It's About Time." For some reason, that track never really "grabbed me" before. I'm loving it here! Thanks for the comments, Max!
@@thebeachboysbasementwithst6444 Ditto. It's never really stood out for me, until now!
I can't say for certain but I think the sax on Student Demonstration Time was Charles Lloyd.
I think you're probably right. He seems like a "likely suspect" anyway! It's some nice work! Thanks for the comment, Pair!
I love what you had to say on the album. I am eagerly awaiting mine to get here and much like yourself the bonus disc is where it's at. Anything new that I have not heard from the Beach Boys before I will always give it a good listen. Great Video Steve!
Thanks for the comments! Please let me know what you think once you've given it a listen. Great to hear from you, Usualmike!
Good review. I listened to a couple of discs through headphones. Cotton Fields was never a big favourite, but I found the 2021 mix absolutely perfect--loved it!
Cotton Fields has never been a track that particularly "grabbed me" either and I actually like the new mix too, despite my reservations about them playing around with the original. (Others have mentioned that, with the original mix so widely available, a remix isn't any big deal. I'm beginning to go with that viewpoint.) Thanks for the comments, Gordz!
@@thebeachboysbasementwithst6444 Probably a little more engaging for the UK fans, maybe?
You know, I really do believe "Wouldn't it be nice To live again" could've been The Beach Boys' equivalent of Lennon's "imagine".
Could be! It's a really great track and such a shame that it stayed "in the can" for decades (and now that we have the long version from "Feel Flows," the earlier released edit seems obsolete.) I was just thinking this morning about "Surf's Up" having no Dennis tracks, despite all the recording he had done at that time. There's a lot of different track selections that, arguably, could have made for a stronger album but, I was thinking, at the very least, I wish they'd swapped out "Student Demonstration Time" for "WIBNTOA." Thanks for the comments, Marco!
@@thebeachboysbasementwithst6444 I've always thought it strange that we go from a 100-mph "superb" collection of DW songs on Sunflower to ZERO on Surf's Up. Did Denny get sideways w/ Jack Rieley? Or just retreat after seeing Sunflower's poor showing commercially?
Here's wiki's input: "Dennis Wilson's songs "4th of July" and "(Wouldn't It Be Nice to) Live Again" were recorded in early 1971 but left off the record.[44] According to Rieley, the absence of any Dennis songs on Surf's Up was for two reasons: to quell political infighting within the group concerning the album's share of Wilson-brother songs, and because Dennis wanted to save his songs for a solo album, projected for release in 1971. In December 1970, he released the single "Sound of Free" (credited to "Dennis Wilson & Rumbo"), but the album project was ultimately shelved.[45] Both sources come from Keith Badman's 2004 book.
@@burlingtonbill1 Excellent info! Thanks for passing that along, bill!
Speaking of the Feel Flows box, in a CZcams video from last Summer, "Surf's Up! - Beach Boys Tribute Band" which features three generations of the Goldberg Family.
1 hour and 5 minutes into the video rthey mention Don Goldberg Sr (senior member of Surf's Up) wrote two songs with Brian Wilson in the 70s and one finially got a release on the Feel Flows box.
According to Discogs he is credited on the Fell Flows box set with track nineteen album two, "Sweet And Bitter." Don is also credited with "Out In The Country (Version 1)and Out In The Country (Version 2)" on the Sail On Sailor 1972 box set. The amazing thing about the Surf's Up video is the two kids not even old enough to be in high school.
czcams.com/video/faAU8Q8uCNw/video.html
Interesting! Thanks for passing along the info and the links, Paul! I will definitely check it out. Much appreciated!
SAN MIGUEL is insane. It could've been big for them back in the day.
I'm really surprised that one stayed "in the can" as long as it did! Hard to believe they couldn't find a place for it on an album or single! Thanks for the comment, Jack!
I think the reason they have some bonus material on the main two discs is because they also have this set as a 2-CD variant, and I think those buying that version would be disappointed if there weren't at least a few bonus tracks.
Good point and that totally makes sense! Thanks, Nicholas!
Thanks for this first review! I purchased the 4 LP set (I am only buying LPs these days) and have listened through the whole thing once. Thought the mix on the two original LPs sounded brilliant....very rich and better than my other pressings of each LP. The problem with the LP is that I'm missing some other songs that you mentioned. I was also baffled why they included 80s and 90s live versions of some songs. I'd really like them to release some more early 70s live tracks from this period (box or otherwise) a la the Beach Boys in Concert (73) which is one of my favourites!
Great points, William! I don't get the 80s and 90s live tracks either. I would love it if they did a "deluxe" edition of "Beach Boys In Concert" with more from the early 70s. (It's one of the few live albums that I get a lot of play out of.) There's a lot of interesting stuff they played during that period that we haven't had live versions of. Hopefully, that'll come...Maybe a "50th Anniversary" in 2023? (Fingers crossed!)
I have been listening and it’s excellent so far!
Cool! There's a lot to take in there! Hope you'll have a long weekend to enjoy it!
A great way to start the Labor Day Weekend!
I’ve held off getting this set because I wanted to learn more about it. (I’m a huge Beach Boys fan, but I’m not a completist collector…) After watching this video, though, I’m ordering a copy of it. Thanks!
PS, love the shirt!
Great! Hope you enjoy it and will let me know what you think! (I'm going to feel terribly guilty if you hate it...but I think it's a pretty safe bet that you'll enjoy it.) Keep me posted, Nick! Thanks!
I know that Richie Cannata ( who use to play for Billie Joel in the 70’s ) played live for thr Beach Boys possibly could have done studio work for them,but not sure.
Thanks for the info, Richard! I'll have to read up on Richie Cannata's history. (I don't know of him, but it sounds like I should!) Much appreciated!
I always liked the good vibrations boxset cover..bear surfboards etc .
It definitely worked nicely with the dimensions of the box. Thanks for the perspective, adams!
I would love get this on C.D. Big fan of Sunflower album, because Sunflower is my favourite beachboys album after Pet sounds.
There's a lot of really interesting stuff from that era on the set. If/when you get it, I hope you'll follow up with your thoughts on it! Thanks, John!
I don't own any of the Beach Boys Box Sets CDs. This looks like it was put together nice, but I think a better cover could have been created, rather then making color drawings of how the band posed in the inner liner photos for Sunflower. I have a bootleg CD called Landlocked, which has about 30 songs on it, many of which I think are also on the Feel Flows Box Set. A few songs which you mentioned, like Dennis's "I've Got A Friend" I've heard of. Think it would be good if you did a video concentrating on Dennis's early '70s songs, both with and without the Beach Boys. Look forward to hear what you think of the Feel Flows Box Set after you've listened to it.
I am always partial to a photo of the band on any cover or box set. I'd probably have preferred it for Feel Flows too. The cover they gave us definitely beats most of the box set covers! (That surfboard style wood-grain on "30 Years of Harmony" still seems like an all-time low. They might as well have just put it in a plain brown box!) I've seen various bootlegs called "Landlocked" over the years but I haven't run across one with that many tracks. Sounds interesting! Thanks for the feedback on a "Dennis in the early 70s" video! It could be fun to do and I definitely won't mind re-listening to his stuff from that period! Thanks for the comments, Robert and great to hear from you!
@@thebeachboysbasementwithst6444 Agree that most of the Box Set covers for the Beach Boys have been on the bland side. Think Feel Flows cover is decent, but think also it could have been better. Since you like photos, think they could have used the Black and White photo showing all six, with Carl (without his beard) with his hair parted down the middle (this photo is in the book you showed in your video). This photo is one of my favorites of them. I looked at my Landlocked CD. It only has 23 tracks on it. It came out in Germany in 1994 on the Invasion Unlimited label. Most of the mixes on the songs sound pretty good. On "San Miguel", the drumming is sort of loud. On the studio version of "We Got Love", the mix is muddy, with the vocals somewhat buried. I also have their version of "Seasons In The Sun" on a bootleg CD of their unreleased second Christmas album from 1977. Thought they did a good job on it. The original by Terry Jacks has always been a favorite summer song of mine. Weird, because the song's narrator is talking about dying. Other then the title using the word "Seasons", wonder why the Beach Boys thought it would make a good Christmas song, lol.
@@robertzastrow4648 I'd forgotten "Season In The Sun" was potentially part of their proposed Christmas album! (That does seem like a very odd choice!)
You're right! That photo would have made a nice cover!
Thanks for the additional info on the "Landlocked" CD. I still don't think I've seen it. Sounds like most of what's on it has seen release now. ("We Got Love" still hasn't been officially released, right? Hopefully, we'll get it on some kind of follow-up set with stuff from "Carl & The Passions" and "Holland" in a year or two!) Thanks for the comments and info, Robert!
@@thebeachboysbasementwithst6444 I don't think the studio version of "We Got Love" has been officially released, although there's been a better mixed version on CZcams (with vocals more up front) for a number of years. Agree that the next box set should concentrate on the So Tough and Holland albums, with unreleased songs recorded during that time and live performances of the songs on those two albums. A number of people have posted imaginary follow up albums to Holland on CZcams, using unreleased versions of songs like "Good Timin' " and "California Feeling" along with other songs recorded by the group either together or individually. One album I think is called either Sweet Mountain or Sweet Water, another is called California Feeling. I find these interesting and enjoyable to listen to. Have listened to both the acappella version of "Marcella" and the background instrumentation for "You Need A Mess Of Help To Stand Alone", both from the Feel Flows box set. Enjoyed both, especially "Marcella". I then checked CZcams for live performances of the BBs doing "You Need A Mess Of Help To Stand Alone". A complete concert of them from May 9, 1972 in Munich, Germany came up on CZcams. Listened to some of it. It was good. Wish the group would consider cleaning up and releasing some of their complete concerts from 1967 through 1974, when they seemed most willing to showcase their latest albums and songs, saving the early stuff for the encores. Who knows, maybe they think they have enough live recordings released. Anyhow, hope you have a good Labor Day (holiday!) on Monday.
@@robertzastrow4648 I know DJL33 has been putting some great "Carl & The Passions"-"Holland" era tracks up on his channel. There's certainly enough material there for a great box set from the period! I'd love it if they'd also either do a "deluxe" Beach Boys In Concert with more live tracks from the period and/or release more concerts from that late 60s- early 70s period. While I know a lot of it would be redundant of other live releases, I know there are a lot of songs they played during that period that we haven't had live versions of yet. (Personally, I don't usually get much play out of live albums. "Beach Boys In Concert" is a notable exception. I'll put that one on at least a couple of times a year.) Hope you have a great Labor Day too, Robert!
Alan Boyd said the reason for the July to August delay was due to having a hard time pressing new records. This ties into the great Record pressing platter fire. They wanted everything to come out all at once, so it was pushed to August.
Thanks for the info, DaNerd! (Confidentially, I was kind of okay with the delay since I was going to be out of town on the July date and I wanted to be home to give it a listen and get an episode taped right away.) Good to hear from you!
The music on the set is sublime. I just wish there were more variations of Break Away.
It's a great track. I'd love to have heard more on that too! Glad you're enjoying it, Joel!
I only recieved mine today so apart from most of the book essay I haven't experienced this set yet. Looking forward to it tough!
Thanks for sharing your toughts Steve
Thanks for the comments, Kenny! Hope you'll follow-up with your impressions once you've heard it!
@@thebeachboysbasementwithst6444 Alright so after having a full listen to the whole thing I can say taht I'm really pleased with this 5cd set.
The audio is better on the 2 studio album, but the main attraction for me is the cds 3 and 4 with the backing tacks and vocals. I could hear new stuff in the music and get a better appreciation for the vocal arrangements.
Also being found of karaoke these are a wonderful must for me.
The live tracks are less intersting, IMO, especially since they're not of the era of these 2 albums. I quite liked hearing carl sing the lead on "surf's up" however, even if the musical arrangement was simplified a bit.
Hope to hear what you'll have to say about the album in a more indepth review!
@@kennydesrochers3264 Thanks for the feedback and insight, Kenny! I'm enjoying discs 3 and 4 more than I expected. As you say, there's a lot to hear and appreciate with this presentation. (I guess I've been a little resistant to this kind of presentation since I feel like they can endlessly remix released tracks to emphasize anything they want...but these are undeniably interesting a beautiful!)
I'm thinking I'll wait a while before following up with a more in-depth review. (Maybe in October some time.) I want to let this stuff "percolate" for a while and viewer comments, such as yours, are giving me new ways to look at the set and the music. (There's so much here, I'm also not sure if a comprehensive review is really possible. I might have to take it in pieces; maybe something like "Unreleased Sunflower Tracks" "Surf's Up Backing Tracks" or "Dennis in The Early 70s.")
Thanks again for the feedback and comments, Kenny! Much appreciated!
@@thebeachboysbasementwithst6444 I thin you're right Steve, an in depth review of this will take a couple of video to cover everything in this set (Or one really long video divided in chapters).
I agree with you that the endless "remixing" of their material could be a problem, however I didn't see the backing tracks & vocals to be a part of that. But if you're pursuing every new mix of a song i.e : wouldn't it be nice mono, stereo mix from 1998, 2010, etc (dates here are purely bogus but it's just to illustrate the point).
Oh and on a completely different point, I forgot to mention that I agree with you that it's weird that they included songs like Susie Cincinnati, Cuddle Up and Marcella on this set. I could understand for "Old Movie (cuddle up) since it was probably when Dennis started to work on the song but being from the Carl and the Passion's album they could have waited for that album's session release. Maybe we can take it as a sign that there won't be a physical copy of this release. Which could also happen with Holland, hence the presence of Big Sur on here as well. Just speculating but who knows.
Anyways thanks for taking the time to read all of us on here Steve and have a great day!
@@kennydesrochers3264 I'm beginning to think that I'll probably do an episode following up on the box in October and, after that, talk about individual parts of the set in a larger context (like "Unreleased Sunflower Tracks" and "Dennis In The Early 70s.) There's just too much there...happily!
I know there are people who really love the remixes and the backing tracks/vocals. (I felt like a lot of it was just to pad out the set but I have to admit that I'm really enjoying it, particularly the backing tracks/vocals.)
I, too, wondered about them including a few items from the "Carl & The Passions" period and if that meant there wasn't going to be physical release of stuff from that period. I HOPE this stuff was just a "teaser" for the next archival release, though I suppose much will depend on whether "Feel Flows" makes money. There's definitely unreleased material around to make a nice "Passions/Holland" period set. Fingers crossed!
Thanks for the the thoughts and comments, Kenny! Great stuff!
I haven't made it thru the entire thing yet. I'm about 3/4 of the way thru after two days of tackling it. I love the remasters of the OG albums. They sound very crisp and clear, but not sure I would go as far as to say I prefer them to the original pressings tho. I also haven't but barely even started to get into most of the unreleased material, although the bonus tracks and live cuts I've gotten to so far have all been great!! Songs like Sweet and Bitter, 4th of July, Loop de Loop, San Miguel and the early version of Good Time have all been awesome finds in this boxset! Overall, yeah it's a bit overwhelming with content, but that's the opposite of a problem for me with the Beach Boys! They really broke down everything about this era about as far as you can probably get.
There's so much there that it's going to take me a number of listens to begin to digest it all (which, I guess, is the beauty of a big box set like this!) I still haven't heard the whole thing and I expect there are gems there that I missed the first time though. I'm thinking I'll return to it on the channel in a month or so. I'm also really appreciating the feedback and insights in the comments here. Thanks for your thoughts, Brandon! Always great to hear from you!
Great video, Steve!
I was thoroughly pleased with the presentation of the set, and it's clear those in charge had a lot of respect for the material at hand. My only complaints are sort of nitpicky.
A few of these songs that were previously only available as bootlegs contained vocals or overdubs that aren't present here which is disappointing.
I know it sounds greedy but I also can't shake the feeling that there is a good amount of material not included here. Maybe I'm just being selfish but there seem to be a number of missing links for previously unreleased tracks!
If you are refering to Seasons In The Sun, that was due to Al Jardine. He wanted to remix the Track himself for the set. He said he didn't like the Background Vocals, so he removed them. Susie Cincinati has two different mixes for both releases between the 5 and 2 Disc. As for the other differences, there are songs with more Vocals or Instrument Overdubs on things that weren't there on boots such as on My Solution. I don't know what else is missing?
@@danerd8978 Thanks for the info! I hadn't done any comparison to see but I started thinking that the way the liner notes say "Basic track recorded on..." a certain date might indicate there was overdubbing long after the fact. Of course, I understand that few Beach Boys tracks were started and finished in one session by the early 70s but a lot of other boxes give a series of dates. (I also wondered if it's because, with so much of it being recorded at Brian's home studio, the record-keeping is not as fastidious.) Thanks again for the comments!
I've wondered if there are overdubs. The liner notes reading "Basic track recorded on..." a certain date made me consider it. It's hard for me to tell sometimes if it's an overdub or a remix too, especially with things I've only heard on bootleg before. (Naturally, I'd prefer "incomplete" versions from "the day" to something that was finished up decades later.)
I, too, wonder what might be left "in the vault." There doesn't seem to be much in the way of "early takes" here but I'm wondering if that's down to them working mostly at Brian's home studio and, possibly, either recording over early takes or just starting with a basic track and building on it. (With The Beatles, I know, there are lots of alternate versions of "Blackbird" since Paul just played it over and over until he got one he liked. There aren't alternates of "Dear Prudence" because John just started with a basic track and built on it, wiping anything he didn't like.) Not sure exactly what The Beach Boys usual procedure was then.
Thanks for the comments and insights, Magnanimous! Always great stuff!
i never liked seasons in the sun as well, your review on that song is spot on
Thanks! I know some people love that song (and Terry Jacks' version was a number one hit, after all.) The appeal baffles me. Good to hear from you, Leopoldo!
@@thebeachboysbasementwithst6444 My local oldies FM station has latched onto the Terry Jacks version of that song and plays it way too often. I can't stand it for all the reasons you mentioned.
@@alm5693 I put a big mix of the "biggest songs of '74" together for myself, which, of course, included Terry Jacks' version. It's turned out to be my most "skipped" song! Thanks for the comments, Al!
Next box set will consist of Holland/Carl and the passions material with a Carnegie hall set
Wow! That ought to be fantastic! Already anxious to hear it! Thanks for the info, Stephen!
You almost had me fooled, bro. A couple minutes in and I was thinking "Oh no, not one of those stupid 15 minute unboxing videos! Come on Steve, you're more creative than that!"
I'm on vacation this week in Seattle for my buddy's wedding so I'm putting off buying the set until I get back because I want to devote my full attention to it. Looks great! Don't forget to remove the CDs from those horrible cardboard slots and place them in protective sleeves.
Hot stuff, here we go! Hotter Than Hell, Crazy From The Heat, Totally Hot, Hotcakes, Hotter Than July, She Was Hot, The Unforgettable Fire, Catch A Fire, Flames Of Paradise, One Hot Minute, Burnin', The Flames (w/Fataar & Chaplin) Hot Space, Spitfire, an LP I can't see to the left of Olivia ... and dang it, that CD on the bottom left is familiar ...
I hope the unboxing didn't go on too long. I thought I should show it and, having only one take to get it done, I rambled on longer than I expected and fumbled around a lot getting the shrink wrap off it.
The CD was the various artists "Red Hot + Blue" again, which I used when I did "Blue" a few weeks ago. Damn if I'm not blanking on what the other album was! I can't see it well enough to tell either. (I'll follow up when it comes to me. I need to start writing this stuff down!) I shot an episode yesterday and mentioned to my wife that I've started using some bad camera angles just to make sure I give Tony a fair shot at seeing everything.
Enjoy Seattle and the wedding! Please let me know what you think of the box set when you've had a chance to listen to it!
I finally remembered! The other album was the 12 inch version of Bowie's "Cat People (Putting Out Fire)" Took a while to shake those cobwebs off my brain!
An embarrassment of riches on this set. Everyone has their complaints, but overall, this is everything a fan could have hoped for and more. The backing tracks and backing vocal versions are mind-blowing.
I agree! It's a great set! Any complaints are trivial. An "embarrassment of riches" is a great way to put it! Thanks, David, and glad you're enjoying the set too!
Best box set of 2021 hands down!
Charles Lloyd on Sax!!!!
Thanks!
I love the set, but you mentioned you hadn’t listened to the original 2 albums on the set. While they handled Surf’s Up respectfully for the remaster, they completely botched the mastering for Sunflower. It sounds like a blatant error but here they are on all versions on the sets. The high frequencies are cranked way too high, which makes me appreciate the 2009 remaster a lot more. I’d love to hear your thoughts on this.
Thanks for the info, Tony! I've only listened to bits of the Sunflower remaster so far. I'll give it a listen, in headphones, with your comments in mind. I appreciate the comments, Tony!
I really prefer the new remasters of the original albums than the 3 previous editions. The 1991 were not good, the 2002 were better, then, the 2012 better, and those ones are just perfect. Surf'Up and... Sunflower too. That's my opinion...
@@mustomax I appreciate the side-by-side comparisons (especially as I don't have the 2002 and 2012 versions!) The versions on "Feel Flows" are definitely sounding great to me! Thanks for the info and insights, Michel!
The first half of Side A of Sunflower sounds terrible, in my opinion.
@@Carback27 Thanks for the info. I'll give it a closer listen! Does it get better after the first have of side a? Thanks, TypicalRy!
My favorite so far is All Of My Love/Ecology, particularly the Ecology part!
Did you know that there are a number of differences between the 2CD and the 5CD set? Different edits and mixes. There is at least one track edit that is unique to the 2LP set as well.
I didn't know about that! I'll need to check that out. Naturally, I'm "disappointed" (to say the least!) to hear that I sprung for the 5 disc set and still don't have everything! Grrr! Thanks for the info, friendly!
@@thebeachboysbasementwithst6444 Not boasting, but I went to the well and bought BOTH CD and LP sets. Not sure when the LP set will get a listen...
i heard Giggens saying that the Ecology section of All of My Love really sounds like an early version of River Song, specially the piano riff, and i agree with him, what you think?
I hadn't noticed that, but I can definitely hear the similarity! Thanks for pointing that out, Lucas!
@@thebeachboysbasementwithst6444 also considering that the Beach Boys played River Song live in 1973 with Blondie on lead i really think Dennis could already have the song around 1971 or 1972
@@lucaspeixesanto5105 Excellent point, Lucas! (I really hope we'll get a deluxe version of "Beach Boys In Concert" some day with a live group version of "River Song" too!)
I totally agree with you about remixes, sleeve notes (more info, less opinion) and live tracks (especially those '76 ones!)
I have yet to hear the box set though (It's delayed for 2-3 weeks here)
:-(
Sorry to hear about the delay! (I think you'll find it worth the wait though!) Thanks for the comments and definitely let me know what you think after you've given it a listen! Good to hear from you, now!
@@thebeachboysbasementwithst6444 - Thanks, appreciated. Yeah it's a drag-supreme.
I am aching to get into it, ha ha ha.
The whole thing is on youtube and it's an effort not to listen right now, arggg!
;-)
@@NOWtheband My condolences! Where abouts in the world are you? (If you don't mind my asking...and sorry if you said before and I forgot!)
@@thebeachboysbasementwithst6444 - Thanks. When it turns up i can exclaim "It's About Time"!
;-)
I'm in London, uk.
@@NOWtheband When I saw the price of the set, I nearly exclaimed, "Time To Get A Loan." Hope you'll check back in with your impressions after the set arrives!
My only problem is trying to figure out which of the guys, other than Mike and Dennis, is singing at times. Even though Brian had supposedly taken a back seat, the other guys can at times sound so much like him that it’s like he’s still there.
I've noticed the same on a few tracks. In fact, there's one (Sorry! I can't remember which at the moment!) where I think it IS Brian but he's singing in a way that doesn't sound like anybody in the group. (Some additional liner notes on this would definitely have been useful!) Thanks for the comments, Michael, and glad you're enjoying the box!
@@thebeachboysbasementwithst6444 I remember an interview with Brian around the time of the release of Sunflower where he said that he was singing "invisible vocals".
Sound Of Free once again in mono. Not included on the 4 disc vinyl set.
I hadn't noticed that! Excellent point and thanks for mentioning it, PRS!
Loving the new set, especially the MIX! That new mix really makes these tracks pop. I realize though that a lot of these tracks I have on vinyl from the Ten Years of Harmony double LP set. But again, the new mix is worth having this stuff again and repackaged beautifully. Check out my review if you'd like!
Thanks for the comments, Manza! Thanks also for pointing out your youtube channel! Looks like some interesting stuff! I'll check out your "Feel Flows" review now!
Very appreciated, Steve!
Give us a quick tour of what all is in your Beach Boys shadowbox cubbyhole (top tight corner of the picture) !
I'll see if I can work that in some time! Thanks for the suggestion, bill!
@@thebeachboysbasementwithst6444 Revisiting this topic a month later (it has taken me THAT long to blast thru all previous 79 episodes -- but being a "completist," I HAVE listened to each one completely and responded appropriately.) I know now that these cubicles' displays are not static. I guess I'd really only be interested in the BB-related stuff, which may or may not be on display at any given interval. Onward and upward!
@@burlingtonbill1 There are three cubicles that I've been swapping out with a different "theme" every week. I actually try not to use Beach Boys stuff in the themes since I have (or plan to) focus on all of it in an episode. Good eye spotting that, bill!
Mike Love actually looked pretty cool bald with the huge beard.
but he always wore a hat
I agree! (Of course, I might be partial to the "bald and bearded" look, anyway.) Thanks, Paul!
Buy a bone folder to fix those corners. they will be like new!!! n
Thanks for the advice on this, neldinsky! (Sorry for the delay in getting back to you! I missed your comment somehow!) Much appreciated!
I thought I read somewhere a long time ago it was Mike playing Sax on that track. I know he is a decent Sax player.
It's impressive playing. I didn't know Mike was that good! Thanks for the info, Willy! Always good to hear from you!
@@thebeachboysbasementwithst6444 well, the way I figure it, if he started playing in the 1950s in school, by then he would have been playing for at least 20 years. He had better be good at it! I have seen photos of him playing in the studio.
@@minnixmusicI'm not sure how diligent MIke's practicing was. It's possible it's him, of course. If it is, that's great! I love to see the band as "self contained" as possible! Thanks for the comments, Willy!
@@thebeachboysbasementwithst6444 The Q you have to ask is, "Would Brian or Carl TOLERATE mediocre sax playing, after being around greats like Steve Douglas & Jay Migliori?" Maybe Mikey HAD progressed to the "acceptable" point, but somehow I doubt it.
Mike is not a decent sax player, there’s no way that’s him…
Carefully unpacking sealed items will always feel like precision surgery to me.
I know what you mean, Daisy! The way they used to pack CDs in the US always seemed like the worst to me. They came in brittle shrink warp that was so tight it alway required open scissors or a knife to "get it started" and, then, there was an adhesive strip across the top that had to be pried up with a fingernail and removed with exact precision if you didn't want pieces of tape, or sticky glue residue across the top of the case. Compared to those, the box sets are easy! Thanks, Daisy!
Great set, horrible cover art.
I won't dispute that about the cover art. (I always prefer a nice photo of the band.) I think, in relative terms, compared to other Beach Boys sets, this one is a masterpiece! (It's all relative!) Thanks for the comments, Zach! Much appreciated!
@@thebeachboysbasementwithst6444 The cover pic on Sunflower is a strong favorite and hard to beat overall. MUCH better than sketches.
@@burlingtonbill1 I definitely prefer a photo of the band too!