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210 US Pop Culture 1964 Part 6
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- čas přidán 27. 02. 2024
- Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale...of the wild 1964 television season! Also, what were the Beach Boys up to in July, August and September, 1964? Find out in today's exciting episode!
Steve really enjoy your channel!!!! Now I’m going to enjoy this segment my friend.
Thanks, George! Please keep up the great work on your channel too! Great stuff!
You brought back some wonderful memories Steve. I was 5 years old in 1964 and remember watching so many of these TV shows as well as The Beatles on Ed Sullivan (It helped to have an older sister enthralled by the Fab Four.) Another show I liked a lot from a few years earlier was called "The Funny Manns" staring Cliff Norton - who was a great character actor. That program used a lot of old silent era whacky movie clips set to some really great avant garde music. Thanks for your basement "March of Time!"
I turned 4 in '64. I do remember some of this stuff, including the Beatles on Ed Sullivan and the premier showings of "Jonny Quest" and "The Munsters." Some things were exciting enough to have left an impression, I guess! I don't remember "The Funny Manns," which I will definitely want to check out. Thanks for mentioning it! The episode was fun to put together and I'm really happy to know it was enjoyed. Thanks for the great feedback, Currin!
Haha what memories even in England! Great Beach Boys &Jan & Dean too
Thanks, Jamie! Nice new episode on "Still I Dream of It" on your channel too! I left additional comments there. Keep up the great work!
"Voyage to the bottom of the sea" was my absolute favourite TV show at this time with "Payton place" being my sister and my mother's favourite. I would never miss an episode of "Bewitched", "The Addams Family", "The Beverley hillbillies", "The man from uncle", or "The Munsters". These imported shows from the USA made watching tv all the more interesting to watch. We only had two chnnels ITV & BBC it would start at around midday and would Finnish at 11/12 midnight. Most of the above mentioned were on ITV and unlike the US there would be just the one 3/4 minutes commercial break in each show. Great memories Steve and thanks for another fine episode.
It's interesting to know those shows were known in the UK. I've always envied the shorter and less frequent commercial breaks on TV there and hated the fact that UK TV shows needed to be edited to allow more time for commercials when shown in the US. (The number of commercials on US TV now is ridiculous. It almost seems like continuous commercials with short breaks to show "excerpts" of programs.) I'm really glad you enjoyed the episode, John, and thanks for the feedback and for sharing the memories!
Black and white tv shows, and there is our host Steve in a black and white shirt. I truly enjoyed the Adams Family and The Munsters. With my brother in the service, mom doing household chores I kind of controlled the tv until dad came home from work and on went the nightly news. I will always remember the night the Beach Boys were on Ed Sullivan in 1964.
Thanks for sharing the great memories, Don! I recall your story about going home to watch the Beach Boys on Ed Sullivan and that was on my mind when I was putting together the segment that mentioned their appearance. Always great to hear from you, Don! Have a great week!
i had those cards and models about 4-5 years later !
Very cool! I collected the models around 1970 (all the ones I could find, anyway...the "Bride of Frankenstein" was, apparently, out of production from the early 60s to the mid-1990s. I REALLY wanted that one as a kid and even bought it when it was finally reissued when I was in my mid-30s.) Those cards look cool. There was a set I collected around 1972 but I don't think I ever came across the ones shown here. Very cool that you had them, Mike! Great to hear from you!
Great show Steve, definitely worth the wait, but you made one minor error. Though the boat in Gilligan's island was named the Minnow, that wasn't the Skipper's name. The Skipper, whose name was rarely mentioned on the show, everyone called him Skipper, his character name was actually Jonas Grumby. Can't wait till next week. Almost spring which means summer's round the corner. Have a great weekend....
Thanks for the feedback, and for the reminder that The Skipper had an actual name! Spring is definitely on the way here. It was 72 degrees here on Tuesday...and 26 degrees on Wednesday. Anyway, this episode was a blast to put together and happy to know it was enjoyed! Have a great week, Doc!
I know there's a lot of research that goes into these nostalgic deep dives, and sometimes you'll miss a minor detail. But we'll let you know when that happens, that's what you got subscribers for. One thing I didn't know was about the government bureaucrat named minnow lamenting the state of television, didn't realize the boat's name was a way of poking fun at how humorless he was. Learn something new every day...
@@DoctorInsomnia-qw7us The feedback is always great and I'm always learning new stuff. BTW, I was interested to see that Newton Minow passed away just last year at the age of 97. I hope the long life was some satisfaction after being lampooned by Gilligan's Island! Thanks again for the feedback! The additional info is always great and much appreciated, Doc!
Even though i am in UK i can relate to most of the TV shows you mention as they were shown here too and my mum used to follow Peyton Pace as did a lot of other mums. in 1964 and we too had a few soaps ie Compact, Coronation Street and Crossroads are the three that spring to mind, though i was very young at that time and was still in Infants School until september of that year.
As for colour TV , we had to wait until 1968 for our first colour broadcast and this was tranmitted by the new BBC2, which had began in 1964 and at that time was considered Arty and had a small audience and like America , very few of us had colour TVs and in my household , we had to wait until 1971, but this didnt stop programme makers from filming colour shows aimed at the American market and the two that spring to mind are Thunderbirds and The Prisoner, both of which looked amazing in colour..
As for the Beach Boys, i first became aware of them when i saw them for the very first time on Ready Steady Go in which they sang " when i grow up " to a screaming crowd of mostly girls and i believe it was Keith Fordyce that attempted to interview the group, which wasnt successful as the screams were so loud that it was pretty well impossible to hear what they had to say as he introduced each member and when he got to Brian, as you can understand, Brian was obviously unable to respond owing to his hearing problem and could only acknowledge his name.and at that time, i didnt realise the impact the group would have on our music as attention was on the Beatles in 1964/5 /
Thanks for the great info, Chris! You've cleared up a minor mystery for me. From watching a documentary on "Dr. Who," I knew that the UK got color TV a few years later than in the States. Since then, I've been puzzled as to why UK shows we saw here, like "The Prisoner" and "The Avengers" were in color. (I noticed all of "Monty Python" was in color too. Though we didn't see it here until 1974, I knew it had started in 1969.) Color for the American market makes sense!
Thanks, too for sharing the great memories of seeing the Beach Boys on “Ready, Steady, Go.” I’ll be mentioning the Beach Boys first UK and Europe trip, late in 1964, in an upcoming episode. From what I was able to find, they played only a few shows and, mainly, concentrated on radio and television appearances. The “Beach Boys In Concert” book lists the concerts, of course. I couldn’t find any good sources for exactly what radio and television shows they did and what was performed. (A compilation of Beach Boys film, radio and TV appearances would make for a great…and very useful…book one of these days!) Thanks again for the great info and feedback, Chris!
Playing catch-up on a few of your videos that I missed! Love the original 1961 Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea movie but I've never actually seen the show. Looks like quite a few shows at this time were derivative from feature films (Peyton Place, No Time for Sergeants, even Bewitched was inspired by I Married a Witch.) My mother said all of the teenage girls (including herself) watched Flipper each week just to see Luke Halpin shirtless. Apparently the dolphin was only on the periphery for that demographic. That Million Dollar Party would have been something to see! Great video as always!
Great to hear from you, BB! Let me know if you have a chance to check out any of the "Voyage..." TV series. It was never particularly "grounded in reality," but I recently saw one of the later episodes were there was a guy dressed as a circus clown creeping around the sub and putting the crew under some kind of mind control to take over for some reason I never fully understood. Suffice to say, those later episodes are even weirder than I remembered!
Thanks for passing along the observation on the teenage girls tuning in for "shirtless Luke Halpin! That's a whole dynamic that completely passed me by and, now that you've pointed it out, I'm sure it was a large part of the shows demographic!
Funny with the "Million Dollar Party," that I always think of "big all-star rock shows" as having started with stuff like Monterrey and Woodstock, forgetting that there were some great all-star events (and even package tours) many years earlier. I just wish someone had filmed it! (Wonder if there are films collecting dust somewhere?)
Thanks, as always, for the excellent feedback, BB!
Great episode, Steve! I always enjoy the deep dives into pop culture of the respective years the albums came out, it gives great context. This obviously was an ambitious fall line-up and the one title that really stood out to me was 'My Living Doll'. Had I been around in that time, I would've watched and supported it just because it was such a ridiculous concept and I would've liked to have seen how they would've handled attempted to squeeze a second season out of that thin and ludicrous scenario. I was just reading that Bob Cummings was addicted to amphetamines, so that probably was the catalyst for him agreeing to star in the series and him leaving it abruptly. I was also thinking back to our previous conversation a few episodes back and that maybe the talents of Paul Lynde in that lead male role could've gave the series the edge it needed to make it entertaining. This is of course futile pondering, but it amused me thinking about it. Haha. Thanks for all the info, once again!
Thanks for the feedback, Mike! I've only ever seen an episode or two of "My Living Doll." It really seemed to fit in with other series that succeeded that year and, had things gone just a little differently, I could imagine it having become a "60s hit" like "Bewitched" or "I Dream of Jeannie" and a staple in reruns for decades. You're probably right about Bob Cummings. I read that the addiction might have lead to him quitting. I also read that he was annoyed that the vast majority of the press coverage centered on Julie Newmar instead of him. (Of course, who would you rather interview, read about, photograph or see photos of? Julie Newmar...or Bob Cummings?) Of course, the cancellation meant Julie Newmar was available to play "Catwoman" in 1966! Always great to hear from you, Mike! Thanks again!
16:29 What's your oldest childhood memento that you're still hanging on to all these decades later? Mine has to be an Underdog pillowcase, of all things. I had that pillow on my bed for years, I believe. It's in a box in my closet, neatly folded up in a Ziplock bag. (Wiki says the show was syndicated until '73...when I was 5 yrs old. Wiki also reminded me that Underdog was voiced by Wally Cox.) God help me, I'm almost tempted to go dig it out and see what kind of shape it's in. No telling what else I might find in there...maybe I still have some of my Peyton Place action figures...haha
That's an EXCELLENT question! I think the answer is a Popeye "Soaky Toy" circa 1963. (It was bubble bath that came in a bottle shaped like a character. Coincidentally, I show some "monster" "Soaky Toys" in this episode.) My mom actually set that aside for me, so I'm not sure if it counts. Otherwise, it might be a handful of "Monkees" bubblegum cards from early 1967. That's probably the earliest thing I kept for myself. The Underdog pillow case sounds great! That was my favorite show circa 1966. I even built a snowman in the backyard that I named "Sweet Polly." If you come across it, I'd love to know how it's holding up. Enjoy those Peyton Place action figures! Thanks for the great feedback (and for the laugh), rangergrrrl!
My goodness, Steve...my childhood just flashed before my eyes! Thanks soooo much for the walk down memory lane. So much fantastic content here - I didn't realize so many amazing shows were released in '64 which have had a lifelong effect on my twin brother and I (his lifelong affinity for submarines and mine for monsters.) Your sentiments about Jonny Quest were exactly the same as mine. What was YOUR favorite episode? Interesting that Tim Matheson of Animal House fame was the voice of Jonny! Man, my brain is still on overload. One last thought - isn't it funny how Rudy Giuliani ended up looking exactly like Simon Bar Sinister? Chris
Really glad you enjoyed it and, as you've probably gathered, I've had a lifelong affinity for monsters too. (I never missed an issue of "Famous Monsters" between #55 and #125 and picked up most of the earlier issues too. I even visited editor Forrest J Ackerman's house a couple of times in the mid-90s when I lived in L.A.) I never realized Tim Matheson was the voice of Jonny Quest until I was researching the "Almost Summer" movie for some episodes here a year or two ago. Once I knew it, it definitely sounds like him! I think my favorite episode was called something like "The Dragons of Ashida." We thought the insults that "Race" Bannon yelled at the henchman with the big lizards were hilarious. What was your favorite? Great observation on Giuliani/Simon Bar Sinister! Thanks for the great feedback and for the laughs, Chris!
Wow! Too funny and coincidental...my Wife and I took our kids to meet Forrest Ackerman at his "Ackermansion" sometime in the 90's. He was incredibly gracious and kind, as he agreed to give us a full tour just as he was heading out the door for dinner one summer afternoon (I have a photo somewhere of our kids with him.) Jeez, I collected monster models and garage kits (especially in the 90's,) and actually sold off much of that stuff a few years ago as I knew I'd never get around to building them. My favorite Jonny Quest episode may have been "The Invisible Monster," but I really need to go back and watch them all. SOOOO GOOOOD! I need to review "The Dragons of Ashida" - you featured a clip in this episode, correct? BTW - What's your favorite Universal Monster? Chris@@thebeachboysbasementwithst6444
@@bchnwgn SO cool that you visited the "Ackermansion" too! I had the same impression of Forry; incredibly gracious and kind and sincerely interested in sharing his time and his passion for sci-fi with others. The 90s definitely seemed to have been the golden era for monster model reissues and garage kits. I was tempted by a lot of them but only ever bought "Bride of Frankenstein" since it was so illusive when I was a kid. I don't know that I have a favorite Universal monster. I just re-watched the "Creature" trilogy. I've probably watched "Dracula" more than any of the others.The original Lugosi "Dracula" was one of the last "Universals" I saw. I had been keeping an eye out for it for a long time and, when I was 12, it finally played on a "midnight movie'" I actually like the slow pacing and Renfield scared the heck out of me. What's your favorite of the Universal monsters? Thanks for the great follow-up, Chris!
I enjoy them all, but my favorite UM is the "Creature OTBL." The late 80's/early 90's was a busy time for me concerning monsters. Through my interest in the models, I frequented a lot of the monster related shops and local conventions. I met Ben Chapman who played the Creature (at least in the original movie) on land, as well as actor Daniel Roebuck (best known for his role in "The Fugitive" movie) who is a huge COTBL fan and I believe has a massive collection of related memorabilia. I ran into Daniel several times over the years - he's a hell of a nice guy. Although I was still in the music biz, I contacted Universal Studios with the idea of opening up a Universal Monsters themed shop (which would include ALL monster related items) and eventually secured a meeting with an Executive to discuss. I included the owners of a long standing store in Burbank called Cinema Secrets known for their Halloween makeup and related items in the meeting (unfortunately, nothing developed after that meeting.)
During this same era I also collected Halloween masks, and did up my house for Halloween for several years which included scenes in my yard, driveway and all of our front-facing windows; fog machines, strobe lights, and 2 different sound tracks playing through a P.A. system - it was memorable for the neighborhood and a lot of fun! I also had a booth at the L.A. County Fair in '93 (in between music jobs) selling masks and Halloween makeup from Cinema Secrets (it was fun, but 3 1/2 weeks on my feet straight with little sleep was exhausting.)
I no longer collect any of this stuff, but thanks for letting me share. It's fun to review this stuff with another goofy fan.@@thebeachboysbasementwithst6444
@@bchnwgn SO cool! I certainly know who Ben Chapman was and it's great that you got to meet him. I had no idea about Daniel Roebuck and his "Creature" collection.
I remember, a decade or so ago now, being at Universal Citywalk and seeing that they were merchandising a lot of Monster stuff. I thought most of it was disappointing; they had changed the likenesses enough, presumably, to avoid paying any royalties to the Lugosi, Karloff or Chaney estates and were presenting the monsters more like "superheroes" than the original Universal Monsters. (I wonder if your meeting had some influence on them deciding to "revisit" those properties?)
Thanks for sharing those cool experiences! When I was 10, and an avid "Famous Monsters" reader, I got the "Dick Smith Monster Make-Up Handbook" and put together a make-up kit with some stuff I bought at a theatrical shop in Detroit and an old lunchbox. Determined to be "The New Lon Chaney," I shot a three minute Super 8 movie "Curse of The Vampire," making up my seven-year-old brother as the vampire and filming in the back yard with a bunch of neighborhood kids. Needless to say, it didn't have quite the "brooding gothic atmosphere" I was hoping for!
Great sharing the "monster memories" with you, Chris! Thanks for the follow-up!
Great stuff Steve! I might have to check out Voyage To The Bottom Of The Sea. I never watched Johnny Quest or Flipper. I always liked The Addams Family better than The Munsters. Although I might be one of the few people that liked the Rob Zombie Munsters movie. I really liked Car 54 Where Are You but I didn't discover it till years after The Munsters. I also watched Gilligan's Island. I think I saw the guy who played the Skipper from Gilligan's Island in the movie It Happened On Fifth Avenue.
I never cared for the Ride The Wild Surf song. I did get the Monkey's Uncle song on a Disney CD years ago. Of course I have the Super Stocks version of Little Honda from that double CD from One Way Records. Anyway, thanks for the cool stuff as always.
Thanks for the feedback, Michael! For some reason, as a kid, I always preferred "The Addams Family" too. Putting this together, I wondered if it was just because I first saw it right after "Jonny Quest" which put me in a good mood for it. (Weirdly, I remember my mom made some sticky, very bad, candy that she gave us to snack on the night "The Munsters" premiered and I've always wondered it my initial impression of the show was wrapped up in my reaction to the candy.)
Recently, I caught a later "Voyage To The Bottom of the Sea" episode that had a guy dressed as a circus clown running around the submarine subjecting the crew to some kind of "mind control." I sort of had it on "in the background" so I didn't catch the whole thing...but the show was even weirder than I remembered!
Thanks for reminding me of the Super Stocks version of "Little Honda!" I should have mentioned it in one of these episodes, especially since Gary Usher, reportedly, was uncredited producer on the Hondells' version. (I've made a note of that for a follow-up episode.) Thanks, Michael! And thanks, again, for the great feedback!
This is great! We're doing 1965 and 1966? delightful! Gomer Pyle (General Foods), ran until 1969 and then Jim Nabors Hour debuts in 1969. Bewitched (Quaker Oats/Chevrolet), is definitely one of my favorites of all time. Ivan Tors would bring more shows such as Daktari, Cowboy in Africa and Gentle Ben. Gilligan's Island (P&G/Philip Morris) is definitely a classic but a shame on what happened in 1967, the show was up for renewal but cancelled at the last minute to save Gunsmoke from cancellation. Peyton Place, I've seen around... and i loved the first few seasons. I preferred The Munsters over The Addams Family because i loved the silly😊.
Thanks for the great comments, feedback and for the sponsor connections! We'll definitely be doing '65 and '66, though it may take a while to get to them. (To give you an idea, my rough plan is: 1957 in the spring, 1969 in the early summer, the first half of 1965 later in the summer and 1974 in the fall. After that, I'm not quite sure! (Actually, I'm not even all that sure about those. I know from experience at this point that a lot comes up in between.) Anyway, hope you'll enjoy it and I'll be looking forward to your feedback, Angelique!
@@thebeachboysbasementwithst6444I'm here for the deep dives, especially the 60s. My Favorite Martian ( The Toni Company/Kellogg's) did well this season; Patty Duke Show (Sterling Drug for Bayer, General Mills, Breck, primarily later gave us the 2nd-4th season of Laugh-in; and Noxell Corp for Cover Girl and Noxeema) performed well this season. I'm surprised that "I've Got A Secret (Toni/General Foods) was still on TV😊.
@@sexymama1966 Those sponsor connections are great, Angelique! I'm beginning to realize that a really good perspective on early TV (and even earlier radio) would be to approach it from the history of sponsorship. I'll bet there would be a lot of insight from knowing what companies put there money behind which shows and when. In all seriousness, have you considered a book (or a youtube channel) from that angel? I think you're on to something important that''s been largely overlooked! In any case, it's definitely always interesting and thanks, as always, for the great feedback, Angelique!
i know who can write the book, fromthesidelines. now, he's the king of the tv sponsorship, after all, that's where i got some of my info in the beginning. i've always been a fan of sponsorship announcement. i think i ran to the tv to see and hear them. in dreamland, i'm not allowed to watch them, i would have to turn away or i would get a strange shock to the body. that was totally off topic but that's how impressed i am by the announcements. broadcasting magazine is great source of information. i check that around sometimes.@@thebeachboysbasementwithst6444
damn that seems like a wild schedule for them at the end there
Definitely! As we'll get to in Part 8, the touring schedule, in particular, gets even crazier in the fourth quarter. The pressure (and exhaustion) must have been ridiculous. Thanks for the comments, John!
Great episode Steve but I’m surprised you didn’t mention The Beach Boys theme song for the series Karen. Maybe you mentioned it in a different episode.
Thanks for mentioning that, Joel! I didn't have time to get to "Karen" and it actually premiered a little later, in early October, so I figured I'd cover it with the fourth quarter in episode 7. Thanks for reminding me of it! I'd have hated to miss that one!
I didn’t think you’d miss it. It’s not ground breaking but you gotta love the sound with their classic lineup. I turned 2 in ‘64 so I only watched reruns of these shows. But 60 years later, I could sometimes use an Underdog Super Energy Pill to keep me up past 10:00.
@@joeljr4982 Thanks for the follow-up, Joel, and I could definitely use one of those Underdog Super Energy pills myself once in a while!
Another great episode, Steve. Really enjoyed the look back at TV shows from that time. Regarding the Hondells version of Little Honda. You stated that Brian Wilson sings lead on this. Is that correct? I had never heard that before and it does not sound like him to me.
yeah think this was a mixup, that's not brian
Chuck Girard of The Castells and Love Song sang lead on the Hondell's Little Honda.
Yeah. I messed that up. I meant to say a "vocal" not a "lead vocal." Thanks everybody for catching it and sorry for the mistake!
@@thebeachboysbasementwithst6444 im not sure i can hear brian, 🤔 but im guessing he's buried in the mix somewhere, kinda like some of the jan & dean tracks
@@wohnjomble I agree. I wouldn't swear I can hear him but the sources I've got say he's in there. I'm sure I'll be following up on this here at some point. Thanks again for catching it!
Yup, in terms of color TV and RCA's system, NBC 's first color programs were promoted as being in "compatible color developed by RCA". And the precursor for the NBC peacock was a slide and an announcer saying "this program is being broadcast in color and black and white." The RCA-NBC cross-promotion was so heavy that WNBC in New York was previously known as WRCA. The earliest CBS program I've seen in color on CZcams was a Burns and Allen episode, with color commercials for Carnation, yet, from 1954. Also on CZcams is a promotional film for CBS's Color TV, in color, also from 1954, which was quite interesting considering the network's lack of commitment to color. BTW, one of the ugliest logos I've ever seen was the CBS "color" eye" used in the 1950s and early 1960s, which looks like a kaleidoscope but to me looked like the eye had a 360-degree beard! In terms of the Munsters, I was in New York City many years ago and I saw a man who I was fairly sure was Al Lewis, but he looked so eccentric I didn't approach him.
Thanks for the VERY interesting additional info on early color TV. (I really appreciated your earlier comments too, which lead me to really research it for this episode and it was really fascinating. It also gave me a new appreciation as to why NBC's programming always started with that peacock in the late '60s. BTW, from your description, I'll bet it must have been Al Lewis you spotted. I remember hearing him on the Howard Stern Show in the '90s. I believe he had a restaurant in NYC at the time, called "Grandpa Al's" or something similar and, though apparently pretty friendly, had turned into a kind of menacing-looking "eccentric." (On the other hand, there are probably quite a few menacing-looking eccentrics in NYC!) Always great to hear from you, Joel, and thanks again for the great feedback and info!
Side Note - if you'll remember, the Disney program on Sunday nights was originally called "The Wonderful World of Color" before they changed the name to "The Wonderful World of Disney." The first color tv program I saw was the cartoon "Milton The Monster" - which I believe was on ABC at a neighbor's house. We didn't get a color tv until 1972 - and my dad later said, "Who would ever need cable tv. Four channels are plenty."
@@currinsnipes9879 Thanks for the feedback on Disney! It's hard to keep straight all the variations in the name of the show over the years. (I do really love the theme that started "The world is a carousel of color...") SO cool that you mentioned "Milton The Monster." I'm planning to mention the show, along with some other new Saturday morning shows when we get to fall 1965. I was afraid I was the only person who remembered the show, so I'm glad to know I'm not alone! BTW, my grandparents got a color TV in 1966 and my parents took me over to see "Underdog," in color, which was my favorite show at the time. I remember being surprised that his superhero outfit was brown. (Of course, it's actually red, which just shows how poorly-tuned the color was on my grandparents set that day!) I remember comments, like your dad's about not needing more channels. Of course, now, sometimes, it seems there are hundreds of channels and nothing good on, so maybe he had a point! Thanks again for the great memories and feedback, Currin!
@@thebeachboysbasementwithst6444 We had cable in the early 1970s before we had color, which was 1975 or 1976. We had a nice console Fleetwood 1961 black and white set and we used it until it stopped working. Of course, I saw color at friends' and relatives' homes, and hotels.