What's Going On With This PARTS SHORTAGE?!
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- čas přidán 26. 04. 2023
- We been dealing with angry customers more and more lately over these parts shortages we keep running into. Different brands, makes and models. What's going on? Every time we turn around it's something. Lots of parts on back order and a lot of the time they can't tell us when they'll be back in. Let us know what you think is going on in the comments. And there's your dinner.
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This is why I’m glad I’ve retired from the business. In this case, I’d go to my local NAPA and buy an SKF bearing and send it. SKF are quality bearings and likely just as good if not better than whatever chinesium bearing it had originally. Because I can guarantee they didn’t put expensive bearings in those from the factory. Can’t maximize profits that way, and these days it’s all about the almighty dollar.
Last time I went to my local NAPA was in search of a pinion bearing for a Dana 30 (super common axle- I also had the make and model of the super common Jeep it was in). While they probably had 10 of these bearings on the shelf, it was not in their computer, and apparently they had gotten rid of their parts books, so it just wasted an hour of everyone's time. Trip after trip after trip, the determined parts guy would go back and pull a part number off the shelf and bring it out to compare, only to see it was clownishly different sized than what I had. All of that wait and his effort for nothing and at the end of all that I had to go to friggin Autozone. I also had to reuse the crush sleeve because that's when the parts guys eyes would cross as if I was like asking for blinker fluid.
SKF reduced it production due to Gaz/petrol/electricity crisis in Europe....
Yeah good luck. I wanted just an oil seal, gave the guy the dimensions and he was trying to ask me vin and what it’s for. I’m like I just want the oil seal at the dimensions I gave you, no help.
@@linkgroundwalker find a bearing shop, they often have oil seal
They are decent bearings I've used them frequently.
Briggs parts have been real hard to get lately. I usually will get the number off a bearing or seal and buy through a bearing supply house.
The fruits of globalism
You will own nothing and be happy. They do not want you to fix anything, they want you to rent machines.
NOTHING but CONFUSION & TURN OVER in that company the last 15 years, folks that KNEW the products have been canned across the board
well said, i have done that,I was stocking upon a lot of briggs stuff few years ago, now im swimming in alot of 2 and 3 year old parts that are not going anywhereso buying all that stuff did not work out either
That's why they're called Briggs and Scrap 'em. Once they were purchased by an investment group and a lot of the manufacturing got sent to Asia, I'm sure parts are harder to come by.
Agree totally. This parts supply is ridiculous no matter what you're working on.
Be it automotive, lawn equipment ect, can't do the job if you can't get the parts and it makes people furious.
Keep cool Mr taryl, all we can do is make the best of the crap situation we've all been delt.
And it ties up shop space. Shops are taking it in the shorts hard.
I have had very little problems getting parts for my shop. Last two years before this year were worse.
@@mikespain8655 all the old stocks are gone from the warehouses in the states, this is the result of Tariffs and Pandemic, it's parts on demand now.
Yeah, I buy a lot if parts on Rock Auto. They've had a lot more "out of stock" situations on parts I'm looking for.
People who get mad at the mechanic, or even the parts house are either venting hoping for a sympathetic ear, or just morons.
In the former, they must realize they're not the only customer. In the latter, they're so ignorant that to explain the situation to them is a monumental time suck.
A local bearing shop should have the bearing. Motion Industries is great for that. SKF bearings are awesome. Wouldn't hesitate to throw an SKF in there one bit and it's probably better than what was in there from the factory.
My racing Husqvarna motorcycles have wheel bearings and shock linkage bearings and shock bearings all sourced from the local Motion Industries.
briggs doesnt make bearings.
Another vote for getting a bearing elsewhere. Why do you think the OEM part is so great? Do you think they spared no expense to get the best possible bearings? Didn't it break? You probably can get a better bearing, maybe a much better one.
I know where such a shop is. If they don't have it they can try to order it anyhow. I also know a place to get belts and you just bring any belt you need to them and they get you an exact match for it. They get the right width and V angle too. All of those places are 15 minutes to a half hour away. I can go straight out to any of them or any of the local independent hardware stores along the way too if I need to. It is just that the two I mentioned are more like a specialty shop. The one with that gets the belts is an electric motor repair shop that sells and orders belts. I forgot the name of these places but I know how to get to them if I need to. They are very helpful and a whole lot more knowledgeable of these parts than I could ever be. They might ask you what it is for and suggest a slightly different part that is better suited for that in some cases. Of course you cam find certain bearings nearly everywhere. If you don't know the size of it take it to them. Some bearings like spindle bearings are standard sizes and can be found for a lot of tractors. That will not always be the case but I have seen it before. Most times it is laser etched on the bearing or readable on the seal. I don't care much for it on the seals since it is often difficult to read it.
Ya, bearing suppliers know there stuff. they will measure it and cross reference numbers if possible and give you options on quality. I may be lucky to have some old school shops that want to help
I am really lucky when it comes to bearings, fasteners, tubes, belts and seals. I live close to a big industrial supply company in Germany and I happen to have a commercial customer account there. They can get you basically anything in 48 hours max. Even V-belts custom built to size. Even not that expensive. I once ordered an antistatic V-belt in a very weird size for a commercial washing machine, and it was cheaper than the OEM part...
it's the same as if you need u bolts for a truck ect made longer or just replacements ect. local place can make you some in a couple few hours, better if you give them a bit of notice to you know...and most likely cheaper than whatever else you can buy.
Even when parts are available, the shipping costs have gone crazy. At times the shipping can nearly double the price, and even with the tracking numbers, the USPS isn't all that reliable anymore.
Tripling the price of fuel ⛽ as the Democrats have done makes the price of everything we consume more expensive to ship to the market.
@@rapturebound197 Come on Guy you know it's because of the greedy oil companies and their record profits. Lol can you imagine actually believing that? I mean when you have an administration who's anti- oil and every policie he puts in place has cost the oil industry billions these idiots still try blaming the oil industry for marking up prices. So dumb it's almost unbelievable.
Shipping like everything else is just a ripoff.
Fuel has tripled? Where? I make craft items and I've have to raise my shipping charge by at least 50%.
Bearings are generally pretty easy to get. There are numerous companies that sell only bearings and seals. They can usually match them by the part number stamped on the bearing or give them the dimensions. None of the equipment manufacturers make their own bearings.
Correct, I have been able to source quality bearings for very odd sizes and standard too,
Ive used lawn mower bearings in manual cars, and automotive bearings in lawn equipment 😀
I’ve been a mechanic for almost 50 years. Parts are the biggest issue I have to deal with. The first thing I tell everyone is I can’t do anything about the price of parts.
That depends on how much you mark up.
You are correct about Ebay. NO BACKORDERS ARE ALLOWED THERE ! I used to use supply houses for my trade but the backorder nonsense started for me like 2-3 years prior to covid which just made it even worse.After being backburnered a few times I said no more. "If the local supply houses cant process orders then I'll gladly move on..." Honestly, if someone on ebay has extra NOS sittin around hes probably trying to sell it off fast anyway meaning even deeper discounts which is a win. 95% of my stuff is purchased off of Ebay.Really good stuff too .Just put in your part number and shop it out ! Most ebay orders do not take over 5 days for delivery. I can live with that.Glad to see the local supply houses getting less orders. I get my parts on time and better pricing.
I feel your pain. I work at a golf course and trying to get simple parts is like pulling teeth. I may not have customers but the boss is on me. I've done more out of the box thinking than I have ever in my life. Welding worn down shafts for lift arms to making off the shelf bushings and bearings work. Boss is happy because the repairs are cheaper than the parts most of the time but man the labor is something else. Keep fighting the good fight and thanks for all your hard work and help. I'll have a Hamm's for ya.
Hydrogear and Mtd are right here in west Tennessee that we haul for them. The reason the parts are harder to get is the factories are busy pumping out the new models and using up the supply of parts unfortunately. First hand knowledge, I've seen it
Our plant had an experience with "just in time delivery" also because a manufacturer did not want to pay to warehouse extra inventory. We had to have a certain chain (from a company that sounds like Pink-Felt) and they moved their plant to another state. No warning and no date given when the chain would go back into production. We had to source the chain from a plant in Japan who was willing to manufacture it for us for a certain quantity and PREMIUM price. We had no choice. But the quality was far superior!
"just in time delivery" is backfiring left and right and it is only going to get worse.
@@davidhenderson3400 zero inventory. Zero waste. Zero prospects.
Ah, yes. Harvard University's Six Sigma. It's parts now, but millions of Americans will be starved to death by the same program. The black belts will thrive with their 1% profit sharing, so the rest of you stfu.
It’s the exact same issues in the auto industry! I feel you!!
After years of dealing with the public Taryl Dactyl was asked, "Why do you talk to yourself?"
Taryl Dactyl explained, "Well, Grass Rat's, the reason I frequently talk to myself is : I really love talking to someone with intelligence. There's your dinner!"
Lame.
@@james1795 Curious minds want to know, "Well Ray does @James' opinion matter?"
Ray, "Not really."
@@RaysLaughsAndLyrics. Lame.
@@james1795 Such a diverse vocabulary... final word.
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In the past when I still used to do repairs, for bearings, I'd just contact Timken and they always seemed to have the bearings I needed, and Timken was always a top notch company and still is as far as I know. Another thing I did for obsolete parts a number of times was to draw up a blueprint and contact a local machine shop and have the part custom made, and honestly, a fair number of those times the cost was comparable to a new factory part and was usually better quality than the factory part. I could even modify the design a bit if I wanted to make it better than factory new. If you have the skill and enough demand, you could always pick up a mill/drill/lathe and make a lot of parts yourself.
Customers can be so quick to lay blame when then don't stop to think what you have to deal with. I hope most of your customers are open minded enough to listen and get educated from you. Wish I had someone like you here in CT. You're the best Taryl!
I also find that companies that own various brands, like MTD, may have inventories of a part under a different brand name and part number. I needed a Cub Cadet gear that was out of stock as a CC number but available as a TroyBilt part number! And it was cheaper! Look for alternative equipment built by the same company, like Briggs owns Murray and Simplicity and NOMA and Snapper and Ferris and Billy Goat, you get the picture. There’s your Dinner!
YEP, worked @ the Snapper plant in MCD when Briggs bought Simplicity & Snapper, wasn't long before they began stripping the plant
@@REVNUMANEWBERN never been the same since. Damn shame, now the once great Snapper in just another tinkertoy mower.
10 4, I have noticed this with household appliances as well. Sometimes the price difference is surprising too.
Remember, MTD is now owned by SB&D. I've had a lot of MTD products over the years and found the same issue. The basic stock number is usually the same from line to line.
@@MazichMusic I remember needing a power seat switch for my 1986 Monte Carlo SS way back when. The dealer had no stock but sent me up the road to the Cadillac dealer as the switches were the same. Only difference was the part was $17 from Chevy, $77 from Cadillac. Same part number, same GM box!! I had my Chevy dealer order one, it came in two days!
It gets worse. There is lawn equipment being sold, primarily at the “big box” stores, where the manufacturer does not and will never make spare parts available. If the equipment fails during the very short warranty period, you get a new one. If it fails after that, you have scrap.
You hit it right on the head. People don't know how hard it is to get some parts in or when are they coming in from. The people that grew a big anger attitude charge them extra 30 bucks for the attitude.
Well said ,especially the last couple years
Yep, Taryl we’ve had part issues for two years now. We wait 6-8 months for items or longer. Like you said we’re all the last contact with unhappy customers and not a pleasurable able experience day after day.
when it's something so easy and just almost useless part, but you need it, its cheap, 20 bucks or something, oh backorder, ok this is the time it should come, nope pushed back again. when there is a specific season for things people are not happy either.
For what it's worth, this recent parts avaulability problem is happening in auto industry also. Just this week, I got a very similar story from the service department where I am currently getting my car worked on.
Everywheres, any stupid little thing you want or need is just not happening. Where i worked they even had troubles getting just quart sized oil jugs to sell to people. specific brand and we had other stuff, but like.
You don't want to even mention body shop repairs ! most are atleast 3months to start !
To me, one of the reasons for these parts issues is the manufacturers want us to buy new machines. It's gotten much harder to find reputable manufacturers who look to longevity to build their customer base. That's across the entire spectrum of manufacturing. When you realize that America has shipped almost all of it's manufacturing overseas, there's not going to be a happy ending. I'm so glad that I'm on the back nine of life. I feel nothing but sorrow for the kids growing up in America today! Sigh...
I have been in you shoes. I was the man that dealt with customers and they got a bit upset when things were backordered for a long time. I am now retired but I still work on friends and relatives' equipment. I watch your channels often. Your videos have helped me many times. Thanks. Just yesterday, I forgot which way to turn the governor shaft so I did it wrong and the throttle shaft would not move. I remembered your video on governors where you said if the throttle will not move the shaft is turned the wrong way. I turned the shaft the opposite direction, and voila, the governor worked.
I was in the computer business and dealt with parts shortages, and a UPS strike. My advice is "set the right expectations" from the get go. Let them know as soon as they drop off whatever, parts are hard to come by.
Yes...avoid internet bearings and go straight to a local supply house. McMaster and Grainger are always options for customer projects.
In addition to the great analysis of the current issues you face as a dealer, you've made the perfect case for why people should buy OPE from a dealer and not a big box store!
I recently wanted to buy a replacement wooden hatchet handle. After looking on the interweb, it showed two well known hardware stores had some in stock. I went to store 1 and none in stock. Went to store 2 and none in stock. Both stores web page said they had them. I talked to older employees at both stores and they both told the back story why they had no replacement handles. They both told me when they ran out of replacement handles they were told not to order any new ones and leave them listed on our website. This way the customer will still come in and we can sell them a $35.00 new hatchet instead of a $8.00 replacement handle.
I had that bearing blow up in a JD D110 that i picked up for $75.00 i tore the trans apart and found the bearing gone. Fortunetly here in canada we have a store called Princess Auto. Found the bearing there for $4.00 replaced the bearing and the trand ran good as new. Sold it after for a decent profit. There should be numbers on the bearing somewhere you can find the bearings elswhere!
McMaster Carr is a place that I have been able to get good bearings from in a pinch.
It would be expensive but a machine shop could also repair/replicate parts. I ended up making my own bushings on the deck lift for my commercial zero turn
McMaster Carr must be smoking meth with the pricing they have.
I tried to get an adapter for a certain thread to another and they wanted 28 dollars for it. Yeah right I could pay someone to make one for cheaper than that
I don’t know what size thread you are looking at but $28 doesn’t sound too bad if talking custom made parts, seeing as many machine shops are $70 - $125/hour (plus materials) and usually have a minimum charge.
@@contraband1543 I've had McMaster deliver parts to my house just a few HOURS after I ordered it. How long is it going to take a job shop to build it for you?
Sometimes McMaster is the answer. Some things are just worth paying for.
@@contraband1543lol I actually just finished a job turning custom threads on some grade 8 bolts for a customer’s machine I’m fixing because they don’t make them anymore. Worked out great but I wasted a lot of hours I can’t bill for.
You should do an opening skit on what happens to all the air filter housing covers that are always missing when people part ways with their old equipment. Somewhere.. over the rainbow.. with all the 10 mm sockets, one off unmatched socks, and interchangeable plastic side discharge mower deck deflectors/mulching stopper flaps(usually has mulch flap only, sometimes rigged into the up position with a string or wire, cowboy style side discharging with no deflector because they tossed it over their shoulder upon purchase), there is a great big pile of lost/unwanted/abandoned air filter covers. It’s like they take off the air filter cover(after replacing the spark plug first as a cure all remedy to any given problem), peer into the carburetor hole with a confused blank stare whilst scratching their noggins, throw up their hands in frustration, and mount the air filter cover on the wall with a commemorative plaque before then getting rid of the rest of the machine. I’ve got like 30 pieces of equipment with no air filter covers. Can’t they be made so they just swing open and are undetachable? That way they can’t grow legs and walk away.
Bahahahaha THIS!!!! I can’t agree more. I don’t understand why/how customers are always bringing me machines with no air filter housing. It’s like a pandemic. When/if I am able to find one, it costs an insane amount of money but they want it fixed right, so it’s their loss. Like where did they put it? and why is it missing? I don’t care that you changed the plug, I care that you have removed parts and somehow “lost” them!
@@halflife82
Nothing makes my eye twitch more than a piece of equipment in need of repair that has been left to sit outdoors with the spark plug having been removed and left that way, leaving the poor cylinder open to bugs, mice, pine needles, and the elements. Eye is starting to twitch right now just thinking about it..
My problem is a reliable repair shop. The 2 dealers near me said that didn't know what was wrong. I told them what it was and how to fix it. Didn't matter. AND all of this was under warranty. 52 hours and I' screwed by Kohler and Scrub Cadet.
Good Luck Taryl and friends.
You problem is "by the book" shops I call them. If the problem is not listed in a book they can not find it. I have had tech support ask me to call them back when I found the answer to a problem I was having so they could add it to the book. Lucky for me I am able to write the book if I have to. Fewer and fewer shops now have techs that can do that. I have had stuff come to the shop I worked at (retired a few months back due to health reasons) that several other shops could not fix. And we would fix it.
@@davidhenderson3400 One big issue like you said, is that i don't think it's the techs won't do it, but the dealer says hey, 30 minutes MAX diag time unless you find something that leads you somewhere...well hell, 30 minutes you could JUST be getting close to figuring it out, and boom, TIME UP basically. by the book for sure.
@@davidhenderson3400 Kohler was my trouble. The didn't want to replace the cam and other parts and pay the shop. No interest at all. Glad yours worked out.
I use McMaster Carr to get bearings and bushings for various lawnmowers. They even had a hard to find NLA idler pulley. I matched up with one from them. Just have to measure and figure out what size you need.
I'm a lead mechanic at a small shop, we ordered a replacement kohler motor last December from our supplier, and its estimated time of arrival is this September. I swear everyday I have to tell a already upset customer "sorry but we still haven't gotten the part in"
I have an old Snapper that I needed a deck belt. Local shop said next week. I had him order it & then went to Amazon Prime & ordered a cheap rubber belt to get the lawn cut before the forecasted week of rain. Been a week I called the shop no answer or return call & Amazon "no 2 day delivery" it took a week. Now I have grass 8" tall. Working on a table saw for a customer, just need 2 brushes. Called HR was told 3 to 5 days. Three days later I get an email parts on back order. I call CS & was told ""should" be in warehouse in 20 days then 5 business days for them to get it to me.
Bearings are very universal; You can get that bearing from anywhere, just tell them the ID and OD you need. I have a guy in my little town that can literally make any bearing you need at any size, custom or not. Seals can typically be found the same way. It may not be the same type of seal-- but as long as it has the right ID and OD, you can usually still make it work. It's just an oil seal, it's not the space shuttle.
Use number on bearing, or seals. That number works for any manufacturer. Same number for bearings and seals, Bearing and seal manufacturers got together along time ago, made numbers universal between different manufacturers. Works for bearings and seals anyway.
@@gregkersey6106 Yeah;. I've never gotten a "cheap bearing" that didn't last just as long as anything else, especially on low load/ low rpm applications like this. That's probably why they are back ordered, because you can get them anywhere and so they aren't making it a priority to catch up with those parts. I was watching South Main Auto the other day, and he needed an OEM Bosch injector for a car and they were back ordered for months, so he broke down and went to Napa for the aftermarket one, just to find out that it's the OEM Bosch injector, just in a Napa box. So a lot of times when things are back ordered, it's just because they are already distributing them in some other way and they're just failing to communicate that to people.
Because who is going to buy the Bosch injector from a dealer for triple the price when you can get the exact same one from Napa for cheap. So the dealers end up not even ordering anymore of those, because they don't' sell.
@@calholli I recently needed some parts, a seal for an older econohorse tiller that my family has. went on some random site, nice diagram and parts lookup, the seal yeah sure i found it, but other things like stupid stuff, a bolt, a clip, a cotter pin, obviously they're not gonna sell you a normal typical bolt, just go get one. Annoying though. Just makes the whole process take longer. Gotta know where to look anyways
@@baileyhatfield4273 yeah when it comes to plain bolts and stuff like that, I just hit the local Ace hardware and dig through all their bins. Other than that, I usually just commit to buying the cheap Chinese parts. lol.. But that's for myself-- I get that he doesn't want to do that for customers and get call backs.
I am retired now, but I did exactly what you are talking about for 25+ years in the lawn mower and small engine repair business.
I’m a small engine mechanic and run my own shop in Calgary, Alberta Canada. Same parts supply issue as everyone else. I like being inginuitive, so I often am buying aftermarket or off brand parts that work in place. More often than not in fact. I have a lathe, large drill presses, Lincoln welder, etc and more often than not am building parts from scratch for people. I find I have to build parts a lot with Husqvarna for some reason, but others too. Anyway, just a tip for those out there. That’s what’s keeping me afloat as parts are even harder to come by in Canada than the USA.
This is affecting essentially *everyone* I know who does repair work and sources parts for that work, INCLUDING myself. Whether it's small engines, automotive, computers, HVAC, etc. It is happening EVERYWHERE.
And NONE of it is an accident; it is 100% deliberate and intentional. And it will get much, much worse as time goes on... Who is responsible? Simple:
IT IS THE VERY SAME syndicate of soulless, depraved reprobates that are wholly responsible for all the ever-increasing confusion, chaos and dysfuntion that we all have been experiencing around the globe in recent years. They are behind all these supply-chain issues as well.
And, they're just getting started.
They are very broken, sick and spiteful creatures; they loathe everything and everyONE. ... And now they are starting to SERIOUSLY ramp up all their evil up even more -- they're pulling out all the stops now to turn the world upside-down and inside-out. They have rather covertly gained control of almost EVERY aspect of our World's infrastructure, in essentially every sector -- industrial, manufacturing, finance/banking, communications, media/"news", "medical", "political", etc..(and the list certainly doesn't end there).
And they intend to leverage all that control/hegemony to play us all against-one another, as a means to "break" and enslave US ALL... And, then, they ABSOLUTELY INTEND TO DESTROY US ALL (humanity, that is.)
No, I am not joking. Nor am I exaggerating. This is very real. "They" have had this unprecedentedly-depraved, puerile, senseless "goal" for literally *thousands* of years.
And the time has come NOW that they are very close to actually achieving it. We far outnumber them... And we MUST work together -- NOW -- to stop them. They must pay for all this iniquity; they must be held responsible. We can easily stop them... but only if we stand TOGETHER.
If this does not happen, then the entire World -- and all of us, all of humanity -- will very soon be destroyed. Our greatest enemy, by the way, is FEAR. Do not fear them. Fear NOTHING. It is useless.
Now, let's all get to work. There is NOTHING else left to do; nothing else is important. Save all that for AFTER this job is done. Time is short.
Thank yo and Godspeed.
The answer is to get an older tractor(Cub is my preference) because parts are available and they last forever! I have a 1961 Original that was given a cosmetic cleanup and tune up and it STILL starts and runs great!!
I got a 1975 Case 222 12hp kohler, 1984 Ingersoll (Case) 446 16hp onan, and 1987 Ingersoll (Case)446 16 hp onan, all hydraulic, not hydrostatic drive..... none of the motors have been rebuilt... I had to build a stainless exhaust for my 222 because the old one rotted out..... just had it fired up a couple days ago, went through the mower deck, tractor maintenance....... thing will run for another 50 yrs!!! (Joking it's going to need a rebuild eventually, but not yet!!)
I find it funny that everyone accepted lockdowns and staying home and are now angry at the results.
I feel your pain. I had a $11,000 Kubota sit for five months waiting on a set of $800 deck gears and bearings.
"I didn't design the thing, I didn't manufacture the thing, I don't supply the parts for the thing. I'm just here trying to fix it" I need to put this on a plaque.
I’ve been having to get a lot of stuff on eBay. Used parts mostly. I’ve even been good used small engine parts on eBay. I would make it a full time operation but storing all these parts for sale takes up so much space.
I feel your pain. When I go through it I chase back to the part number because it usually fits 5 different pieces of equipment crossing 5 different brands. I don't always get lucky that way but when I can't find it under one brand I can usually find the exact same part in a different box from another brand.
Unfortunately, we've seen parts on backorder for the automotive and diesel industries as well.
My mother's John Deere mower has been apart since last year, and the parts are still on backorder (she insists on "OEM"). Don't like the idea, but I went ahead and ordered the cheap, aftermarket kits just so I can get it going again.
Looks like we all are going to have to start cross-referencing and using parts from other brands to keep us going. 🐺🔧
Refreshing to see a shop that has Morals Taryl. Keep up the great work. 🔧👍🇬🇧
I am a electrical contractor and we are in the same situation with materials.
Load centers, circuit breakers, meter boxes, are all hard to come by.
Even wire and cable.
And when you can get the stuff, the prices are outrageous !!
This all has happened since the pandemic.....
I have a feeling this is going to only get worse we are on the downhill slope and things are going to get worse thanks for sharing buddy
We gotta start making parts again since the world doesn't want us
C'mon Taryl ... I can understand your frustration with proprietary parts, but that bearing is pretty common and can be bought online or at NAPA ... TuffTorq even has the part numbers printed on their parts diagrams. I overhauled two TuffTorq TZT13DL hydros over the winter and found that TuffTorq was very good about identifying the part numbers on all of the generic parts. Input shafts are almost all 6302 ... let me know if you really can't find one and I'll send you one ... I have a few spares.
In this day and age it's good to have alternate suppliers, and know a good machinist.
They are selling disposable engines
I’m wondering whether the current ‘Right-to-repair’ initiatives are prompting this response from the manufacturers. They may have decided that the best response from their business perspective is to simply make repair so difficult that people will just buy new. They aren’t the one’s taking the heat, after all, so this costs them very little, and tends to improve their bottom line numbers by moving more ‘product.’
..interesting perspective ....
Parts production for manufacturing cycles requires no particular talent at all. ‘Just-in-time’ works great for that aspect of the business. Parts production scheduling for repair parts, however, is a different-colored horse, altogether. It requires incantations, exotic mushrooms, the occasional toke, and a logistician. It also requires a lot of record keeping, which is expensive, and tedious.
Isn't there a law that forces auto manufacturers to produce parts for everything produced within the past 10 years or something? Maybe we need that kind of law for everything.
You hit the nail on the head with this! I run a small tool repair buisness in the UK/Wales as a one man band. I have been ordering so much from Ebay as they work out cheaper (god knows why) and arrive on time, where as my main supplier there is so much waiting on the parts my customers become impaitent which is understandable but then I get it in the neck and the brunt of the customers aggresion is aimed at me when it should be aimed at the supplier! I feel your pain man.
I use to rebuild machines at the factory I worked at. On an old thread grinder I found out that the special bearing in the headstock was discontinued. We ended up modifying the housing for regular precision bearings. I'm just saying that if you need something bad enough you'll figure a way to get it working. Your man should have found another motor instead of complaining about his old motor that he screwed up.
Harbor Freight got a pile of Predators.
Buckle up Taryl this may be just the beginning .. telltale signs of what's really heading down the pike full speed at us .. tall grass is going to be the least of people's worries ..as a matter of fact they may want to think about letting their yards grow up so they can propagate edible weeds ..or at least have one of those human-powered reel mowers on hand or a horse-drawn sickle ...with a horse of course
I agree, its going to get worse, before if and when it gets better.
its truly amazing how many ppl are not aware of whats giong on right in front of their noses
Taryl I buy used snowblowers and lawnmowers and repair them I'm a retired machinist and have been doing this for 30 years. I too have been having trouble getting parts and having things discontinued. I've had good luck buying aftermarket carbs and bearings for SCAMAZON and SLEEZBAY, but I'm fixing to resell not for customers like you. I'm not sure what's going on either but it's definitely seems to be getting worse. Thanks for the informative video and I now know I'm not alone with the difficulty in finding parts.
I’m seeing the same thing and it’s getting worse every day
Having 10 equipment apart waiting on parts and no place to work and no income
As long as ice cream cones are being delivered freely to the White House,all is well.
Amen brother. People need to wake up.
Please don't get me wrong I love are country but I'm convinced the freedom is an illusion???
I work at a big package delivery service in Louisville KY, and repair cans they load packages in and push into aircraft. They have to meet strict FAA standards, but we have been idle because we can't get parts. And we only have one place we can get stuff from because they are certified by the FAA. This past week I have basically stole their money because I'm paid to sit and wait and hope a delivery comes in. I tried getting brake pads for my wife's car last month and they were out of stock for 3 weeks. Every industry seems to be sidelined due to waiting on parts. We desperately need manufacturing plants back in America
Love the vid as usual you are so correct. I have a 2012 model year scud cadet LTX1050 with the heavy duty collier 24HP engine with 980 HR still runs like a champ all parts are still available on ebay end even online stores- I mean every single part and nearly every part on the machine was made in usa back then even the mower deck is 1/4 real steel not these cheap newer stamped out types. anyhow because of the availability of every wear and tear part and your awesome vids of how to replace tricky to get to parts my mower is a a 3/4 off resto of all new parts and runs like a new machine. i payed $2200 for the mower new in a after season discount sale in 2012 and iv put around $1k in parts- into it over the years doing my own work so no shop cost on it. Now that's value. I have friends with newer various brand mowers in the $ 5 to $7k purchase price market and they are always broken down due to part failures unrelated to abusive treatment and they spend a lot of time at the shop waiting for back ordered parts. Go figure- I can imagine people bitching you out because of an issue that you have nothing to do with.
I love it when you order a part, Then the next day you get an email letting you know they did not have it in stock, Yet their listing shows that it is. Then you have to cancel the order and wait 7-10 working days to get your money back. That`s the BS!
This is happening everywhere with everything. Voting has consequences.
Who voted? Another Joe once said, I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this-who will count the votes, and how. Our Joe said, "We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics." He further elaborated, "Folks we've got a lot of work to do. I don't need you to get me elected. I need you once I'm elected."
Lets go Brandon!
Hi Taryl
I can totally relate to having to wait for parts. I had a small Webb mower in with a broken throttle cable. It took 9 months to get it and I had to pay up front first to guarantee when it come in I got it. Customer had forgotten I had it, but worse of all is the space waiting for parts that machinery takes up, and you can't charge storage space as the jobs not finished. I only have a small workshop and space is a premium.
Will you make up a trolley you can put under that sit-on's rear axle area so it can be moved about while you wait/find the parts so it's not in the way?
I'm working on a Toro Titan Z5200k zero turn mower, needs blade spindle bearings and shafts, OEM $77.00 each, local dealer wants $177.00 each for the whole assemblies, I found a three pack of new ones on Ebay for $108 dollars! Comes with all the hardware! I think the only reason these brick & mortar parts and service stores stay in business is because of their insane mark-ups on parts, service and equipment. Local shop wanted $118.00 for a deck belt! I founds a Stens on Amazon for $35.00
Funny how all these problems cropped up when Joetato Brandon took office.🙄
Keep voting Democrat👍
I needed a part which is a antibackfire solenoid , and our local repair companies , wanted , $240.00 dollars for it , on line I found the same part for $19.00 dollars , go figure. I wanted a repairmanual for my motor , the same repair company said that they couldn't get it , I found it online for $30.00 dollars , also got a full set of emission tools for $25.00 dollars , said I couldn't, buy it because of the epa. Taryl , don't a
Apologize , you have a great show. GOD bless you man..
I hear ya. I'm in the HVAC business. Company is a Carrier dealer. Sales(install) and Service. Carrier moved factories to Mexico. Been happening a lot where a Compressor, Coil, or heat exchanger (replacement parts) is on back order and can take months for part to come in. If it's warranty you have to use Carrier parts. What am I supposed to tell customer? It could take months to get your A/C fixed, but I can install a brand new A/C tomorrow (no shortage on new units yet). How convenient!! Seems like manufacturers are only concerned with new equipment sales and not selling parts. It's not just Carrier either.
When TRUMP was in you didn't have a parts problem!
It’s Biden’s fault 😂
Hardly..this has been in action even before tRump..it's now coming to a head.
Yes it is!!!!
Another problem is parts pricing. I can NOT figure out what's going on in the parts industry. Needed a upper and a lower radiator hose for my old 2012 Mustang. Called my local Ford dealer; upper hose, $90.00. Lower hose, $110.00, so, $200.00 for two simple hoses. Got on the interscreen, went to FordPartsDirect, ordered from them, the upper hose, $50.00. Lower hose, $60.00. Almost half price from the Ford dealer. And these are genuine Ford Motorcraft hoses. What the hell goes on here?
Taryl, where I live there is a bearing business that specializes in bearings, bushings, v belts, pulleys, etc. They can work off the number on the bearing or measure it right there at the counter. They carry different brands but even the best of name brands get bought out and are made overseas now. This is a place for the pros who work on commercial, industrial, and agricultural equipment. I would get their best and they never let me down. Maybe a similar source is near you. I have an awful time getting parts and when a piece of lawn equipment is fine except for a simple but special part that is now longer available it really is disappointing and upsetting. Like one commenter already wrote, look for a reputable bearing shop in your area. Lots of small engine parts businesses locally have a dismal selection of v belts. Unbelievable! Good luck!
Funny you commented on a Hydrogear. Replacing one of the axles seals on my 2001 PRGT Poulan Pro that wore out due to one side the axle hub wore into the bushing and axle flange so much that it looked kinda like a ball socket and ate into the seal itself wearing the out half cleanly away. The other side was a bit crusty but otherwise still look damn near like new. Ordered parts and got the seal no problem, but the bushing and flange are "ordered from vendor" which was not disclosed on the parts website. So looking at either cancelling and ordering from another parts site that "lists" them as in stock, Or refabing the old flange and welding a new plate to it. As always the grass is still growing and needs to be cut.... "It's not rocket science"....
I work for a lennox hvac dealer and I can tell you that it's much worse than this. We cannot get vital warranty parts or equipment. Its been like this for 2+ years now and it's not getting better. It's all trades affected.
Like Eric O. over at SMA says "I didn't build it, I didn't buy it, I didn't break it."
I've ran into this issue my self, I went to replace the automatic choke mechanism on a junky on a basic push mower... nope, intergalactic back order! So now I just use pliers and pull the choke linkage open manually after I get it running.
Having the same problem in the industrial electrical industry. I refurbish medium voltage breakers. Parts, relays and switches are 6-8 months shipping as a estimate. And you cannot go to the local electrical supplier and get these specialized parts.
About the bearing: I only use bearings from SKF and FAG. Never had issues. The OEM bearing comes from the same source. ;)
But overall the only explanation is that the OEMs don't want the stuff to be repaired. They want to sell new equipment. Very sad.
I bought a used Cub Cadet Tank with a FH721V Kawasaki engine that was locked up due to a worn upper crank bushing in the top of the case. Kawasaki didn't show that the bushing was replaceable. They wanted you to buy a new engine. Anyway, I searched the "interscreen" and found that it indeed was replaceable. It's been a few years; but I found a couple of INA(Schaeffler/FAG) bushings, I believe that was the brand, that had the same ID and OD but they were a little shorter or longer than stock. I bought one of each, but decided to use the longer one and had that one turned down to the stock size on a lathe. I put the new bushing and new rings in it, and the engine is still running good for close to 100 hours now.
Typically manufacturers carry a prescribed list of parts known, through engineering analysis, to wear out. The number of each part to be carried is based frequency if expected failure. Dealers are having a difficult time maintaining stock levels due to speculators entering the middle-man sales arena. Buying in bulk is easy, and you can often times resell the part and ship at below MSRP. Amazon is a great example of this. Caveat Emptor.
I’ve had problems with motorcycle parts too. OEM Yamaha Brake pads have taken 5 months to come in. Tires have doubled in price and are limited
Not dealing in the lawn mower parts/repair BUT I do work in a 'mom and pop' auto parts store.
YES the parts can be and are difficult to get. YES we've been dealing with it for over a year now.
The two MAJOR type of parts we've had difficulty getting (and are on factory back order) are hydraulic hose fitting and filters.
We're located in a rural area with LOTS of farms, which coincidentally happen to use and need hydraulic hoses made AND the engine filters which are back ordered.
Like I said before, we've been dealing with this mess for over a year and it ain't getting better..... and YES, we are also the 'last in the chain' to deal with the customer and they aren't happy.
That flea Bay seller is probably a high volume satellite distributor ..that equals a pretty good discount there's a lot of sites like that when you buy direct you actually pay more than what you would if you bought it off of one of their vendors
Here in Hawaii is bad because everything needs to be flown from the mainland then boated here. I’ve been waiting for a carb bowl for about a year now from my Honda dealer. Everything here is so expensive, you’ll pay 12k for a mower that cost 6k in the mainland. Love the vids Taryl
I'm having the same problem. I have a Honda HT3814 hydrostatic lawn toy. Engine runs great but the trans "surges". Turns out I need a bushing for the speed control shaft. $14.00 part is NLA from Honda. Several online companies list the part but when you order they don't have it. I'm hoping I can get something in bronze to replace it. It's a bear to get to so I'm hesitant to rip the tractor apart and have it sitting un-useable as it is my backup to the backup....
Great video thanks for sharing. Yes even at my work I work on the chassis trailers for the rail road that they put shipping containers from the train on. We have no landing legs brake chambers we've been waiting on for awhile
Thanks for bringing this issue to your channel. It’s good people to know about. That said, Taryl, I’m sure your diplomatic skills are put to the test regularly. Keep up the good work.
Good video, I am running into the same thing. Had a customer drop off a mower with bent blade. I went to all the Home stores, Tractor supply, etc. and could not get this particular blade. Finally had to order it on line and waited for 6 weeks before it came in. Customer was upset. I told him if he could get the parts faster than I could, to do it and bring the parts to me. Thanks for a great video.
Hey Taryl,
Tim here.......the unavailability of parts spans, like, EVERYWHERE!!......i work in a classic car shop, i cant tell you how much time/money is wasted on tryin to get parts.....then when ya DO get somethin, its made in China, dont fit correctly, or is just wrong....(we end up modifying ALOT of stuff so we can move on).....its ridiculous, awful, digusting, and just BAD for trying to do business......ex: we waited 4 MONTHS for pistons for a 390 FE Ford motor, just stock .030 over replacement pistons......shuda been on the shelf.......its an epidemic, and our folks in charge are makin sure its gonna get worse........sad state of affairs....keep tryin my brother, LOVE ur chanel!!!
Not surprised at all Taryl. Thanks for the update!!
I had the exact same problem the other day. Had a 2012 caravan come in with front turn signals nonfunctional. Determined the TIPM was faulty. Seems to be a common issue. Called dodge and they wanted over 900 dollars for it which I think is almost outrageous. Then they said it's on backorder, no idea when they will get any, and been on backorder for months. The van had just over 99,000mi. What a piece of junk. I almost feel like this type of thing is happening because they want you to buy a new one I swear. None of these newer cars that come in that I work on can go over 100k without something shitting out. Job security sure, but this is ridiculous. I had 2020 ram 1500 with 44k blew the starter. Had a 2018 Silverado 1500 69k come through with a nonfunctional rear window. The wiring from door to chassis was broken. Today I had a 2018 ram promaster van with 57k broken throttle body. I could go on but its mainly domestic vehicles and subarus. Don't even get me started on those dam subarus please!
Parts are often made in China and Mexico, and as some factories closed down or reduced their production due to Covid and cost of Coal/gaz/petrol increase, parts supply will be difficult, even for new build. Here in France, some factories shut down for months due to theses factors, even today !
These factors are shutting down because of lack of labor. Covit is one reason but the main reason is population age, which is not going to correct its self.
Taryl, bearing manufacturers make many different bearings of specific sizes and styles. There may be a number stamped on the bearing from the maker, usually its on the side of the inside race if I recall correctly. This number can usually be used to locate a bearing from a different manufacturer or the same bearing used in a different application. They are kind of universal as I recall. If you see that number call a bearing shop and give them the number, they likely have a replacement bearing in stock. I did this for pulley for a ford car that was only sold as an assembly once. The pulley assembly was very expensive but the cost to replace the identical bearing was less than $20. I just had to press the old bearing out and press the new one in. Simple and saved alot of money on parts. Good luck.
I feel your pain my brother...we are having the same issues in the automotive repair industry!
Thanks for the video Taryl. I can't even begin to imagine what that is like with not having parts availabe. On a light-hearted side, have you checked with Ronnie for parts? He is local, and I heard "he won't rip you off!"
Unless it's a custom made bearing you can get a replacement with the same model number* from any bearing brand you like, bearing and seals model numbers are standarized.
*I mean the part number etched/engraved on at least one side of the bearing, it can be on the inner or outer race, on sealed bearings it can be marked in the seal(s)
If the bearing model has a C followed by a number like C1, C2, C3, C4 or C5 that's the radial clearance and you must get a replacement with the same radial clearance.
C1 : Less clearance than C2
C2 : Less clearance than CN
CN or C0: Normal clearance, as it is the normal clearance this code is usually omited.
C3 : More clearance than CN
C4 : More clearance than C3
C5 : More clearance than C4
My Stihl MS290 came from factory with NTN crankshaft bearings, the new "Stihl OEM" ones I got in a sealed Stihl bag from the Stihl dealer were made by FAG...
Stihl and many other brands also put the actual bearing model in their parts lists, sometimes they put both the standard bearing model and also the size.
For example, the parts list of the Stihl HT75 indicates both things:
9503 003 0242 2 Kugellager DIN625-6201 Grooved ball bearing 6201 Roulement rainuré à billes 6201
9640 003 1195 2 WDR DIN3760-BS12x22x5 Oil seal 12x22x5 Bague d'étanchéité 12x22x5
9512 003 1830 1 Nadelkranz 8x11x10 Needle cage 8x11x10 Cage à aiguilles 8x11x10
You think it's bad now Wait till about 6 more months things are really going to get bad all the way around not just parts but everything. I own two garden tractors which I work in my garden also have two mowers I mow my yard finding parts for them r getting slim I know exactly what you're talking about tayral and I'm not a company I'm just an independent person.
Yep, I've got a MTD Riding Lawn Mower with the Variable speed Pulley that';s on the Trans axle in the back and had to do qutie the search to find the center sleve Bearing that goes in the Needle bearing so it will work. Places have the Pulley but as a complete set not parts and it costs over a 100 bucks and the one I bought didn't last but a few months. I still have the old one and just needed the center bushing. finally found !
Grainger Inc. will have the bearing but they are kinda high with their prices. I used to get my bearings from a place called Quality Bearing Co. years ago 80’s,90’s now out of business. I learned that there was a difference in bearings and how they’re made, I soon learned that I had to use the more precision made motor grade bearings because of the very close tolerances of electric motors. The 6200series are probably the most common but I tried to keep about every size in stock,double sealed -LL and shielded-ZZ. Bearings are pretty much a generic part to keep on hand in any repair shop. I would look on the interwebs for electric motor grade ball bearings,any of the Japanese or American made brands are the best . I know tiny tim won’t change so I hope this little bit of information helps some of you out there.