Destroying the Limitations of the Marvel Action Scene
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In this video we dissect the formulaic approach to how Marvel constructs their action scenes and how Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 breaks the mold.
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*ENDGAME SPOILERS*
So Nebula does resolve her conflict with violence - with ultimate act of one - she kills her past self. Simple in-your-face metaphor, but still effective.
Honestly, that was easily my favourite part of endgame.
More than a violent act, for me is an act of love: killing metaphorically your past self to save your sister.
This video highlights how huge it is when she takes Rocket's hand.
Let the past die. Kill it if you have to.
A more powerful line from Nebula was when she said "we became sisters" herself, infront of past gamora.
“Think of one action moment from guardians of the galaxy”
Me: Groot multi killing those bad guys and then smiling!
Iain Hansen yes! I was about to say the same. I think the Guardians series as a whole has managed to incorporate some pretty memorable action moments, especially when they’re punctuated by something comedic
But what makes that part memorable isn't really the action. It's how quickly Groot goes from brutally murdering a bunch of soldiers to smiling like a six-year-old when his parents hang his drawing on the fridge.
When Rocket made a ship using some prison drones, or when they used the industrial ships against Ronan's ships. Idk, I think the first movie really had some good action scenes, and they were creative too!
What about Yondu's whistling scene?
@@86Fallowcp Most of the action in GotG, from a purely action standpoint, is good and functional but nothing amazing. That's not to say they aren't great scenes because they are amazing character moments and if I had to choose between great character moments or great action scenes, I'd pick character moments every time.
That scene of Nebula finally admitting what she was truly missing... a sister, hit me like a shot to the heart. It was such an unexpected turn in the film. I went from seeing her as an antagonist to a victim in a heartbeat & it had me choked up.
GotG volume 2 is criminally underrated in my opinion. It’s been one of my favorites since it came out, mainly because of the fact that it focuses a lot of time on developing its characters, and doesn’t waste any time with boring plot lines and generic villains. It’s really a masterpiece
David Dunne Agreed, and I was actually down on it upon first viewing.. though I’ll admit I was very wrong and this movie aged wonderfully in my eyes. Now it’s in my top 5 MCU films, and that’s including Endgame.
@@Titanicwasaninsidejob I was devastated when I learned that James Gunn was fired by some retarded Disney monkey executives for something he did 10 years ago, was not even illegal in the first place (just morally ambiguous) AND he has already apologised for in the past.
It is bittersweet that yes, indeed he gets to make GotG3 in the end, but it's delayed and will not be what it was supposed to be in the first place: an opening to Phase 4.
GotG vol.2 is the first MCU movie that makes me cried. Maybe its also the first MCU movie ending with a funeral
But, the main villain of the whole movie is generic
@@SomeKindOfScum The villains aren't Thanos or Killmonger. But both Ego and Ayesha are still very memorable, better than Ronan in vol1.
This could've easily been a part of the "One Marvelous Scene" series. You might consider adding that moniker to the title! ;)
While I agree with this vid easily being part of the series, I just checked his channel again and he already made one about 5 months ago!
@@chlarenceyu6984 . Films&Stuff doesn't have a "One Marvelous Scene" video. The project only just started 3 weeks ago (first vids came out April 22).
Guardians Vol. 2 love is big business. Nebula is so criminally underappreciated.
The scene where the Nova Corps form a shield stands out to me
Yeah that scene was pretty hype
"Think of one action moments from Guardians of the galaxy"
Rocket getting the gun in the prison then going nuts with it
Peter quill escaping from quorath on morath
Captain America Winter Soldier still has the best action scenes. The opening, the highway battle, Nick Fury escaping the cops, the infiltration of shield at the end. No MCU has topped it. Even Endgame
Ramses Ochoa Winter Soldier has some good ones, but a lot of the fist fights are hard to follow thanks to the extreme close-ups and shaky cam. I think Civil War really topped it in both Bucky’s road chase and the final fight with Iron Man. I could clearly see what was going on and felt the impact more.
Though when it comes to fist fights I still can’t see any of the movies topping what the Daredevil series did.
Ramses Ochoa agreed with what you said but in your opinion what comes second after Winter Soldier
Also you forgot to mention the elevator scene
@@nightowl9818 I can't believe I forgot about the elevator scene! Its iconic. For second id say CIVIL WAR. They're both Captain America films lol
@@ramsochoa true the cap films are like the dark knight trilogy of the mcu
There is no shaky cam in Winter Solider bruhh
Watch the Bourne Ultimatum that is shaky cam
Great video!
That line of hers breaks my heart every time - "you always wanted to win and I just wanted a sister!"
I'm also glad that you mentioned Nebula's immediate reaction to the hug. I recently re-watched GotG2 and that part stood out to me.
The jail brake scene stands out to me
That’s action
Also the opening fight for the stone
A lot of action in the movie
Yeah there are a few scenes here and there but they stand out not for the action but for the comedy and none of them are as good as Nebula vs Gamora or the opening scene of GOTG2 or Peter vs Ego.
@@Roiben100 They're still stand outs and I many others enjoyed the action.
I'd agree with the Kiln Escape, but I think that sequence works for the same reason the Nebula/Gamora fight in Vol 2 works: it's very character driven. It's the moment the Guardians become a team and everyone gets a moment to contribute.
You can't just remove one part of the action scenes and then judge them. The humor is part of the action scenes in GotG, it's not some separate thing. Plus, the scenes are also extremely character driven.
Btw, the reason why the fight between Nebula and Gamora is most likely the weakest action scene in a movie so full of great moments, it would be an essay in itself to list all of them, is not because the fight isn't well done, but because the rivalry between those two is the most underwritten aspect of the movie. Largely due to them cutting nearly all the scenes between Gamora and Nebula for time.
A good action scene where antagonistic forces are involved at the very least pretends to have stakes. What were the stakes in that scene? Those CG henchmen die for comedic effect and it takes no effort to kill them off.
Nebula's character and evolution is one of the biggest achievements of the MCU.
Dude this video is incredible. I got goosebumps when the "real" title card blasted on screen with Nebula's ship
Pretty much every action scene in The Winter soldier, but I never can quite decide between the elevator fight (great build up) and the fight at the bridge (so much variety). Though the end fight is the most emotional, especially when Steve can finally stop fighting Bucky and wins the day by doing so.
Yondu's arrow counts as an action sequence right
You've cued up Nebula's character arc in Endgame perfectly!
This really needs a follow up video now that Endgame is out. Nebula got so much character development that she went from being a character I was slightly annoyed with, to one I love. I was surprised with just how much I liked her in Endgame.
Wow. This is very well-made. Aside from the content which is marvelous, the editing, transitions and the music are also perfect. You perfectly captured why I love GOTG especially Vol. 2 and just the entire MCU in general. This is truly what sets MCU apart in the superhero genre these days. Would love to hear your thoughts on Nebula's arc in Endgame as well.
“If nebula can finally conquer her demons”
Yeah,she kills them point blank in Endgame ;)
Anybody got any favorite character-driven MCU action scenes? I wanna hear 'em.
Nebula vs. Gamora's "North by Northwest" fight in Vol. 2
I love the Iron Man vs Cap and Bucky fight at the end of Civil War.
Also....
Massive Endgame spoiler!
Black Widow and Hawkeye fighting on Vormir. It's a short and simple action scene but it's intense and you really feel the struggle they are both going through trying to save each other and sacrifice themselves.
Winter soldier vs cap and Hella vs Thor.
Iron Man vs Thanos on Titan in Avengers Infinity War.
Iron Man vs Cap and Bucky
I mean, I can remember a couple of the Fight Scenes from Guardians, like the initial introduction where the guardians were trying to kill each other, but the most memorable action scene in the MCU is definitely the Yondu whistle arrow from Guardians 2.
4:40 This was so sick! The video is great, I agreed with almost everything you said. Can't wait for the next vid.
Gamora opening the door is almost symbolic to how their relationship started to begin
Hold on, "Do you remember a single memorable action scene in Guardians of the Galaxy?"
Hell yes I do! The prison escape sequence was fucking awesome. Like, a highlight of the movie. That shot of Rocket climbing on Groot shooting folks and screaming is iconic, my man!
also yandu using his arrow for the first time was freaking amazing.
video starts, hear fleetwood mac and that's all i need to know the video's awesome.
when you asked me "think of one memorable action moment from guardians of the galaxy" I thought about the time rocket hopped on groots back, holding a machine gun, saying: "oh...yeah" and blasting a thousand people before our eyes
Crossbones vs Captain America is really well done
The Guardians films are my favorite ones of the MCU, with the Cap films right behind them, and the more I watch them (and the movies their characters are involved in IE Infinity War/Endgame) the more I really come to fucking love Nebula. She's gone from a cool looking if somewhat generically angry minion of the Biggest Badguy to a really complex and realized character with great chemistry with tons of other characters she interacts with and I reaaally look forward to what Guardians 3 will bring for her.
I can't get the image of Space Fletcher out of my head now. Thanks a lot
This is why GOTG2 really shines. It's clearly devoted to exploring the characters, and using every tool it can to develop their relationships to each other - the big family dynamics. There's very little time not spent working on character themes, even in the action. It's easily one of the strongest MCU films, for that reason - most of the other films get distracted from their core story at some point. It's the only MCU film that made me cry.
Hey films&stuff can you make a video on avengers endgame I would like to know what you think of it
Winter Soldier's action scenes are by far the MCU's best. The conflicts between Steve and Bucky bring excellent emotional and physical friction.
The prison break scene in the first Guardians is easily one of the best single action scenes in any Marvel movie.
I’ll never forget when Star-Lord kicked those two guys midair and then slid across the floor unloading on all the passing baddies like an arcade shooter.
Marvel isn’t known for their action sequences, but Guardians is pretty much the exception to every “Marvel problem”
idk man, the elevator scene, the Titan battle, and the big three vs thanos in endgame are pretty memorable action sequences. Winter soldier actually had a lot of them.
I’d argue that it still has a generic villain, but I’ll admit that Ronan makes an effective contrast to the Guardians. He’s not interesting on his own, but as part of the ensemble he works.
It should be. I am so easily bored by action sequences. The Marvel movies are usually the exception. Not always, but as a general rule they offer well choreographed, character driven action with some really creative use of power in it.
You know, it is kind of funny that you expected no reaction to your GotG question, because GotG has my favourite space battle ever (and yes, that includes the various star wars fight). You have the plan with the Milano flying under the explosion in the beginning in order to sneak on the ship, you have the big net in the sky (which is highly memorable), you have the heroic sacrifice….above all you have a lot of tactic in the fight and it is just great from start to finish.
1:37 Star Lord dances in order to distract Ronan, Drax ABD Rocket destroy the hammer and Peter gets the stone. Later THY remaining Guardians share the pain and kill Ronan
Thank you for this well-thought video. I learnt a lot from it, and not just about film-making, but about arts and emotions in general.
Have a wonderful day!
Kind regards from Chile!
Every scene in Endgame is fantastic, I couldn't be more impressed
The cap vs cap fight wasn't shot very well
@@OdileOdile19 It was edited very choppily, the camera work was pretty good. Big difference. I'm assuming it was to help the effects team to less face swapping on the body double
Spencer Ricker i understand but it still could've been better
Spencer Ricker and the cgi helmet on cap was not great
I love your videos, you make my favorite concerning the MCU 👏
Edit - I especially enjoyed the one on Thor Ragnorok
Nebula's arc in Endgame could have been explored more but it was very well crafted when she killed her former self. Also while Gamora finally made her admit her trauma she didn't aid much to it, I think meeting Tony was deal changer for Neb, while we didn't get much from it in the movie you can sense she enjoyed her time with him, especially when he wasn't mad at her winning a silly game. Tony's arc in the MCU was basically about becoming a father figure and making the ultimate sacrifice to impact the future and boy did he impact Nebula by showing her kindness that her father never showed her "you won, congrats, good game" her expression said it all. (I so wish we had seen more of it, it was nice seeing her on such good terms with Rhodey tho)
I like how for the title slate of the video you have "destroying" jettisoning outward at a diagonal angle in the same way that "Vol. 2" does out of Guardians of the Galaxy in the GOTG2 poster
Hey the chase scene between all the guardians trying to get the ball with the stone was great! but other then that, ya, i agree
I’m miffed at Carol Danvers, not because of politics, but because Marcus & McFeely had her carry the Stark Gauntlet Football to the van, which Nebula should’ve done.
But that’s not Carol’s fault.
Man this vids are incredible
Great video and I always like to see Guardians of the galaxy vol 2 appreciation.
This should be on the "marvelous scene" playlist
Thanks CZcams for not notifying me that someone uploaded a video
Wow, I said it once, I'll say it again, your videos are amazing
One Marvelous Scene
Lmao the beginning question i was thinking about the dance off lol
Guardians 2 is still my favorite Marvel movie
1:34 - I could instantly think of three different fights in this movie that were extremely well done. Peter Quill going to get his walkman, Nebula and Gamora's fight, and Drax vs. Ronan on Knowhere.
Wtf u talkin bout bro?
Nebula is the most well developed character in the MCU. Her arc is fantastic.
SPOILERS:
Nebula kills the past.
marvelous video
This ends up being a condemnation of the final battle of Endgame, where fight-or-flight response triumphs over strategy and emotional growth.
YES, the prison escape is extremely memorable to me.
I always told to ppl that great actions scene on movies r the ones with only the sound of the fight
Thank you for this video. More people need to talk about Guardians of the Galaxy 2.
5 minutes and so far it’s a great video, u could use one of those styrofoam mic covers tho because ur “S’s” r very sharp and kinda distracting
Question for MCU fans out there: The Kree. Drax is no match for Ronan. He gets absolutely destroyed by Ronan, and that’s before Ronan has an Infinity Stone. Then in Agents of Shield, Kree are strong, yes. But it seems like Daisy by herself can take down Kree with no problem. Don’t even get me started with Captain Marvel (are Kree even Kree? Or are they an assemblage of other races?). Is Drax a LOT less powered than it seems? Or do Kree have different levels of strength? Anyone know the deal?
that element of deep character exchange is where marvel succeeds and star wars fails.
The best action scene from GotG volume 1 was definitely the prison escape
Would Captain America: The First Avenger have been a better film if Cap's Combat Montage had been replaced with a Cap & Howling Commandos action set piece?
When groot Spears 2 rows of soldiers and smashes them on the walls and floor
Do a follow up for Endgame plz
This is crazy cuz i was just in The shower thinking about how i much i love the guardians of the galaxy films but i like the action more in other marvel films like winter soldier and thor ragnarok. Google is reading my mind
“They had us in the first half I’m not gonna lie”
Still find Guardians 2 weaker of the two.
Its big action scenes and plotlines both felt messy and unfocused.
It had great moments. That said, there were way too many spoon-fed, ARE-YOU-FEELING-THE-EMOTIONS-OF-THESE-CHARACTERS moments for dramatic purposes (ex: "All I wanted was a sister!" "I know who you are, boy, because you're me!")
Only thing that truly stood out was Yondu's arc.
Caden Morse agreed! I see a lot of people coming to love Vol 2 but my opinions on it haven’t changed, and I still find it a bit disjointed. You perfectly phrased my problem with it. There are elements in it that are great but they don’t flow together too well and they feel forced at times. The ideas are cool but execution is still a big part of whether something works or not, and I think it could’ve resonated better.
Guardians of the Galaxy volume 2 > volume 1
As a standalone experience, Guardians 2 is the best in the MCU.
I hate that this video only focuses on one movie as if it's the only Marvel movie with memorable action
Agree to disagree. I think the first Iron Man’s final fight was great.
But what kind of setup are you watching these movies on? Only someone watching on a laptop would care so much about character development or themes or whatever, and say the set pieces are forgettable. Watch on 150" screen in 3D with surround sound, and you won't give a crap about character development.
When you asked if we could remember any action scenes, and after I recalled several, I thought to see if I remembered any character scenes, and I don't lol To be honest, I couldnt really describe what Guardians of the Galaxy's story is about. Not that I care. I'd go watch The Piano if I wanted drama.
but all this is very forgetable when you blow up a planet
nebula is wife material
Nebula = Best Girl
Spoiler alert nebula kills nebula and comes back to life somehow endgame is confusing
Great analysis of a great scene.
Hopelessly pretentious video title that the video never actually deals with ;)
Down vote for shitty premiere feature.
I love the MCU but lets talk about their bad action sequence and this ain't opinion.....its the facts.
Everything from Spider-man Homecoming was bad except the Washington monument part, Thor vs Hela at the end of Ragnarok......poor choreography, South Korea part of Age Of Ultron, Everything from Cap.Marvel was just bad except for the climax(which was also bad), Antman n the Wasp was just boring, Black Panther's every fight was poorly edited crap......especially the CGI Panther at the end. You can add things too.
@Snehil Shrey I said facts pal........not opinion
@Snehil Shrey I can't tell if your agreeing or disagreeing with me, but seriously Im a film student and that movie was objectively bad. Its the second Marvel movie too screw up the "superhero moment" first being, Thor TDW. The writing, direction, editing was just terrible. Larson is a good actress, but the material she got for Cap.Marvel was just shit. People don't hate the movie because of internet politics. Some of us were really hoping the film to be good, and it was not even remotely. Its one of those rushed corporate movie that capitalized on current societies landscape. Im not against anything here, I wish it was good as other MCU movies. But at the end of the day its just a movie.
@Snehil Shrey 1st
They don't teach you film/art is subjective. The only ones who use this are the ones are the ones who doesn't have the balls to defend the art they claim to be good.
2nd
I know Im expecting movies to be perfect. And that's definitely not fair. But I just hate to see movies with so much potential gets butcher because of trying to capitalize on current society's landscape.( ex. JL, Cap.Marvel )
3rd
I don't give a rats ass about who it is targeted too. Its either good or bad. I am a guy. Just because the movie has a feminism theme I'm not gonna shut my mouth and not call it out if its bad. Again, the potential being wasted is not something Ill be taking it lightly. Although if it resonated with you Im good with that. But your not defending the film with its merits. Your just saying Im wrong because Im wrong?
But when it comes to objectively looking at films( which btw you can ) bad movies are bad and good movies are good. Pretentious agenda is not logical. But I am.
@@devilsadvocate4081
"People don't hate the movie because of internet politics."
Most people don't hate the film at all.
Say it with me: Loud. Vocal. Minority.
Art is subjective, so you just sound like a douche that likes trashing things.
The entire end game movie was super anti-climatic for me the second they killed thanos in the first 10 mins of the movie
Yeah but they were too late and still lost. Even when he was gone, the effect of his plan was felt for half a decade. That was inevitable, and yet our heroes did not give up.
there is a reason why your subscriber numbers are good but the average view is super bad...!
And why is that?
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Nebula > Captain Marvel
Lesson learned:
Cap Marv is the worst MCU film.
Youre analysing things too deep for the sake of making a video