It's crazy to think that at one point PTSD was considered to be battle field cowardice. I hope that one day veterans will be treated with love, companion and patience as they should.
These guys were beyond modern terms of PTSD, there were men who were literally paralyzed and blinded with fear, men who would hear the word "bomb" and run underneath tables and wouldnt come out for hours. Men would see enemy helmets and start crying, men who would never stop crying. They would lose their balance completely and some would never get it back, and the understanding at the time was that this was cowardice and treason and resulted in execution.
You’re exactly right! Those poor basterds literally lived in a hell, most of us can’t even imagine. I watch these men in the trenches, mud up to their ankles or higher. Their buddies lying dead next to them. Massive shells often constantly bombarding them. I think the way PTSD is diagnosed today, can in no way ever be compared to trench warfare; of course there are exceptions. I went through far, far less. My mental disorder they now call, PTSD, was a culmination of mental traumas over years. Finally, after just hearing about my shipmates on the IOWA fighting to save their ship and desperately trying to reach the men in the turret that exploded, ultimately 47 men died. I was about 1000 miles away. When I was told, I went into shock immediately for what seemed longer than an hour. My mind was simply full, no longer able to function probably. I’m not proud of this happening to me, but how could I have avoided? Most times people just break, with little to no warning, beforehand. The one symptom, that was the most difficult was: the very real feeling of losing my mind. I could feel my mind leaving me, and used to hit myself to try to stop this horrible feeling; didn’t do a lot of good, but for a moment the pain distracted me from my mind living in hell.
When I was a kid I met a man who worked at a gas station who was shell shocked from WW1. He was protected by all the other men around him as they had to explain his crazy behavior to customers. I can't imagine looking hell in the face as he did during the war.
There was a french tactic that there would be spies near the german trenches and would report that new recruits had arrived to the front and at night they would fire an artillery barrage to scare the crap out of the new soldiers who hadnt seen war yet and would get shell shock (PTSD) and would be executed for desertion or cowardice
When i was a kid we used to play in the woods. Right before leaving the street in entering the wood, the last house on the street was a man that used to scare the hell out of us. He sat in a rocking chair with this big crazy afro, rough beard, and a blank big eyed stare. Of course we used to run our asses off as soon as we came close to his house. As we got older we learned that he was a shell shocked vet.
That’s why I love slaughter house 5. How Kurt Vonnegut writes about PTSD at a time when no one fully understand and actually shines a light on it in a way that even someone who’s never saw the horrors of war could understand.
I witnessed my grandfather have flashbacks and hallucinations of Russian gaurds coming to torture him from the gulag. He was a Polish Canadian taken POW while fighting in the Polish underground.
PTSD is just four letter with no meaning. Even if you say it out it still does not convey what the soldiers feel. Shell shock sounds raw, painful and to the point.
@@bored.in.california2111 yeah but with medical terms you don't need to convey emotions you need to convey what they are post traumatic stress disorder - "hmm i bet that's probably a disorder related to past trauma that causes stress" shell shock - "are you talking about snails or something??"
@@veracanti for every one else except solders it's called life. If you don't see death every other day, your brothers in arms dying left and right. It better be called something else.
@@policis it's not just for soldiers, you could be apart of a car accident with your life long friends where everybody dies and you can't bare being in cars ever again or even on the road yeah, soldiers get it the worst because their job is literally killing other people who are trying to kill them, aka serving their country, but that shit happens for other people and, also, not every soldier has PTSD, my dad was a special forces sgt in Algeria which used to be a military dictatorship and he saw a bunch of action (primarily w/ counter terror where people fucking blow up) and yet he's fine im not trying to disregard soldiers because obviously they have it the worst like you said, seeing their brothers in arms dying and seeing death everyday, but PTSD can happen to everyone because everyone can have super traumatic experiences, even if, compared to a soldier, it's just another day in combat also my bad for going on and on about it
This honestly proves how needless and detrimental war is. If no one fought this intensely she’ll shock would have never been a thing and ptsd could have been discovered at earlier stages and treated. We as humans are NOT meant to see massive amounts of death, especially possibly on the daily. Absolutely disgusting and heartbreaking.
Sadly, a large proportion of survivors in Ukraine conflict will have PTSD after experiencing the horror of a land war on the modern battlefield. Memories that can’t be erased. Humanity can do better than this.
Bro the first time I’d seen how bad shell shock could actually get was the Ukrainian who was basically laying dead until he was shaken be a mate of his you could hear the gas for air and just absolute like realization of where he was it gave me goose bumps and he was on the frontline too
Apparently the British were able to avoid another epidemic of shellshock during WWII. How did they accomplish this you ask? They banned using the term shellshock. Brilliant. And no I’m not joking
@@andrewringuette4426 I think it is you that needs to stop kidding yourself…..both my grandfathers served for the duration of the First World War, and you that shooting 16 year old kids for cowardice is ok do you????
@@cosmiccolonel I am not saying it was right at all. I am saying both sides treated men horribly. That’s all. They did not understand what PTSD or she’ll shock was. It was a wound you could not see. It was horrible that they would take a 16 year old kid knowing he’s 16. Like I said it was a different time.
It's crazy to think that at one point PTSD was considered to be battle field cowardice. I hope that one day veterans will be treated with love, companion and patience as they should.
Australia did not execute those that showed "cowardice"
I hope one day we won't have any wars anymore and people will not go to the battlefield anymore to kill other humans
These guys were beyond modern terms of PTSD, there were men who were literally paralyzed and blinded with fear, men who would hear the word "bomb" and run underneath tables and wouldnt come out for hours. Men would see enemy helmets and start crying, men who would never stop crying. They would lose their balance completely and some would never get it back, and the understanding at the time was that this was cowardice and treason and resulted in execution.
that's still PTSD.
@@nataliekhanyola5669Exactly! There are degrees of severity, but still PTSD.
You’re exactly right! Those poor basterds literally lived in a hell, most of us can’t even imagine.
I watch these men in the trenches, mud up to their ankles or higher. Their buddies lying dead next to them. Massive shells often constantly bombarding them. I think the way PTSD is diagnosed today, can in no way ever be compared to trench warfare; of course there are exceptions.
I went through far, far less. My mental disorder they now call, PTSD, was a culmination of mental traumas over years. Finally, after just hearing about my shipmates on the IOWA fighting to save their ship and desperately trying to reach the men in the turret that exploded, ultimately 47 men died.
I was about 1000 miles away. When I was told, I went into shock immediately for what seemed longer than an hour. My mind was simply full, no longer able to function probably.
I’m not proud of this happening to me, but how could I have avoided? Most times people just break, with little to no warning, beforehand.
The one symptom, that was the most difficult was: the very real feeling of losing my mind. I could feel my mind leaving me, and used to hit myself to try to stop this horrible feeling; didn’t do a lot of good, but for a moment the pain distracted me from my mind living in hell.
My grandfather had this from the Second World War it was terrible. I can’t even imagine what those poor guys went through.
Dang.
@@Lolguy9190p tf u say dang for😂 his grandpa died I think
@@goldenprince3662dude 💀
@@EXP256 lol
@@goldenprince3662 Man, That's disrespecting his Grandpa
When I was a kid I met a man who worked at a gas station who was shell shocked from WW1. He was protected by all the other men around him as they had to explain his crazy behavior to customers. I can't imagine looking hell in the face as he did during the war.
Some people were even court marshalled for suspected cowardice and then shot. We ought to be thankful for what peace we have
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Fckin a bro God bless 2023
This made me sad when I looked back at my grandpa's fear of New Year's celebration and independence day.
Russia: "What problem? Tape skull, send back to death pit, no problem."
Just like that song from metallica, "Disposable Heroes"
"You will do what I say, when I say, back to the front!"
Cringe
@CrizzyRizzy.. if you had actually learned the meaning behind the song you would understand
There was a french tactic that there would be spies near the german trenches and would report that new recruits had arrived to the front and at night they would fire an artillery barrage to scare the crap out of the new soldiers who hadnt seen war yet and would get shell shock (PTSD) and would be executed for desertion or cowardice
When i was a kid we used to play in the woods. Right before leaving the street in entering the wood, the last house on the street was a man that used to scare the hell out of us. He sat in a rocking chair with this big crazy afro, rough beard, and a blank big eyed stare. Of course we used to run our asses off as soon as we came close to his house. As we got older we learned that he was a shell shocked vet.
That’s why I love slaughter house 5. How Kurt Vonnegut writes about PTSD at a time when no one fully understand and actually shines a light on it in a way that even someone who’s never saw the horrors of war could understand.
Teeneage mutant ninja turtles after realizing what "Shell Shocked" really means: 💀this is not the time for pizza
I witnessed my grandfather have flashbacks and hallucinations of Russian gaurds coming to torture him from the gulag. He was a Polish Canadian taken POW while fighting in the Polish underground.
Old videos of shell shocked soldiers are sad beyond description.
Lest we forget.
And I was looking for a ninja turtle song
And as George Carlin put it, if we kept calling it something visceral sounding, like Shell Shock, more soldiers might be getting the help they need
I have oitsd but it's because of the way I grew up
I couldnt imagine have PTSD from the battle of war
George Carlin's bit on 'euphemisms' is a good one to see on this.
The military had a disincentive to understand pdsd
Ptsd should be still called shell shock. Because ptsd doesn't sound serious
PTSD is just four letter with no meaning. Even if you say it out it still does not convey what the soldiers feel.
Shell shock sounds raw, painful and to the point.
@@bored.in.california2111 yeah but with medical terms you don't need to convey emotions you need to convey what they are
post traumatic stress disorder - "hmm i bet that's probably a disorder related to past trauma that causes stress"
shell shock - "are you talking about snails or something??"
know this is a 2 month old reply but also
PTSD isn't for just soldiers, it's for everyone, and there's varying "levels" of it
@@veracanti for every one else except solders it's called life. If you don't see death every other day, your brothers in arms dying left and right. It better be called something else.
@@policis it's not just for soldiers, you could be apart of a car accident with your life long friends where everybody dies and you can't bare being in cars ever again or even on the road
yeah, soldiers get it the worst because their job is literally killing other people who are trying to kill them, aka serving their country, but that shit happens for other people
and, also, not every soldier has PTSD, my dad was a special forces sgt in Algeria which used to be a military dictatorship and he saw a bunch of action (primarily w/ counter terror where people fucking blow up) and yet he's fine
im not trying to disregard soldiers because obviously they have it the worst like you said, seeing their brothers in arms dying and seeing death everyday, but PTSD can happen to everyone because everyone can have super traumatic experiences, even if, compared to a soldier, it's just another day in combat
also my bad for going on and on about it
This honestly proves how needless and detrimental war is. If no one fought this intensely she’ll shock would have never been a thing and ptsd could have been discovered at earlier stages and treated. We as humans are NOT meant to see massive amounts of death, especially possibly on the daily. Absolutely disgusting and heartbreaking.
Battle fatigue in ww2 , now it's PTSD
It’s absolutely horrible watching some of the old films from WWI focusing on
“ shell shock “
Sadly, a large proportion of survivors in Ukraine conflict will have PTSD after experiencing the horror of a land war on the modern battlefield. Memories that can’t be erased. Humanity can do better than this.
Thnks for sharing bro,i hope you succeed ❤
Real symptoms. She'll shock is nothing compared to these warriors.
Most in both wars were punished
Bro the first time I’d seen how bad shell shock could actually get was the Ukrainian who was basically laying dead until he was shaken be a mate of his you could hear the gas for air and just absolute like realization of where he was it gave me goose bumps and he was on the frontline too
Super triste também o final que eles tiveram
Os caras foram executados por covardia 🤦♂️
Scale of "C" bee 🐝 hives research on that an PTSD
Apparently the British were able to avoid another epidemic of shellshock during WWII. How did they accomplish this you ask? They banned using the term shellshock. Brilliant.
And no I’m not joking
the modern day shell shock is caused by the confusing, crazy society/ world we live in now.
Some with ptsd even got disckribed as idiots and killed
Battle fatigue
American Soldiers are immune to Shell shock we are battle Hardend thanks to our foreign policy and political leaders who we love and protect dearly 😂
The way the British treated their men was atrocious, utterly despicable…..
It was like this on both sides don’t kid yourself. Different time, different war. They were trying to learn what was going on with their men.
@@andrewringuette4426 I think it is you that needs to stop kidding yourself…..both my grandfathers served for the duration of the First World War, and you that shooting 16 year old kids for cowardice is ok do you????
@@cosmiccolonel I am not saying it was right at all. I am saying both sides treated men horribly. That’s all. They did not understand what PTSD or she’ll shock was. It was a wound you could not see. It was horrible that they would take a 16 year old kid knowing he’s 16. Like I said it was a different time.
Before the first world war it was often just seen as being a coward
Crazy crap, it's all hell! Sorry guys PTSD is horrible. There is help, try mushrooms
Go understand that now
man i was looking for the 4chan #JusticeForGrga thing
Damn so we just need to use ww1 tactics to scar morden troops
It’s a song from ninja turtles
Come to nm ull have lots of that but once ur on the other side there all fucked
F.G.A.U
R.H.C
Not to mention vaccine injury
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americans think they know what that is try being a british soldier at the battle of somme