Thrones of Decay - is it Worth A Buy?
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- čas přidán 1. 06. 2024
- Blake's Takes gives his review of CA's upcoming DLC for Total War: Warhammer 3, the Thrones of Decay.
This Thrones of Decay review will have a faction by faction breakdown and let you know whether it's worth your hard-earned money.
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Timestamps
00:00 - Introduction
01:07 - Elspeth Von Draken
04:52 - Tamurkhan
08:17 - Malakai Makaisson
12:09 - Conclusion
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I was expecting you to tell us how we suck with the new legendary lords before we even played them.
No sir. That just wouldn't be fair would it? (;
There'll probably be a fair few changes made to the build which I played so I'll let the new factions "settle" first.
Honestly though it would be a good short joke video though 😂😂😂
@@BlakesTakes420 probably got your work cut out updating Empire and Nurgle with all the changes too I'd imagine :P
@@Nirual86 I really do.
_internal screaming intensifies_
Now its been out for 5 mins, NOW you suck at them. lol
For me the thing i like most about the DLC is how they compliment other legendary lords. Not just the new ones.
All the new gunpowder units are a godsend for Balthasar Gelt and the Slayers finally make it worth to start a campaign with the slayer king.
new nurgle units also help kugath and festus field some more varied monstrous infantry and good anti large
Slayer Suck always...
Yeah, having *needed* units and *wanted* units just feels good ( * *looks over SoC* * ). Not only that, but the whole theme of the DLC feels a lot more cohesive ( * *looks harder at SoC* * ). And the free content was fantastic ( * *looks even harder at SoC* * )
Daniel got a big boost to his roster being able to recruit Plague Ogres and eventually mass produce Toad Dragons.
@El_Cattivo1988 what's wrong with you?
Yes playing all empire, dwarfs, and nurgle will feel so good. 😊
Again I'll have to try it for myself, but this is looking pretty good. While I'm excited about the dlc factions, I'm honestly more excited by the reworks
The updates are really good sir. They're not entirely bug-free, but the new mechanics have enough interesting stuff in there to forgive a the small issues I've encountered. You'll have a good time Gonkster.
I do hope so Blaketh the Taketh. Let's be real though, when is the game ever bug free lmao
@@gonk1529 touché sir.
This is defenitely one of blake's takes
You're correct, and I love you.
When you can say “the weakest of the races got most of their value out of the free stuff” that’s a glowing endorsement. When the worst part of the DLC “just isn’t my cup of tea” that’s a good thing, because for every one of those, there’s another person that has been dying for it.
Exactly that sir.
A yes from Blake is a major greenlight for CA
It's my first one since I started the channel. 😅
What I like most about this DLC, is that while it introduces DLC lords that I like, which wasnt the case for SoC, it also makes me just as, if not more excited to play old factions, especially franz, gelt, kugath and ungrim.
This is how DLCs for warhammer should be.
I'm actually super excited to play a Balthasar Gelt campaign where I stay in Cathay and slowly work my way back to the Empire itself.
Might kill Franz when I get there and declare Balthasar the new Emperor, idk
I'm equally excited to play Elspeth von Draken and use her teleportation thing to help create mini-provinces around the Empire instead of one contiguous territory I control with lots of allies.
Overall, I'm excited for lots of Thrones of Decay's changes. I'm also interested in playing Dwarfs for the first time! I usually prefer factions that have more mobile units, but now I'm interested in playing some true stout walls of steel Dwarfs with gunpowder and explosions.
@@perrycarters3113 I think lore wise Gelt and Franz are buds right? don't ruin their bf relationship like that. ; )
@@KingZealotTactics But
But
Gold maskman go "Hahaha metal magic go brrrrr" and turn Franz into lead :(
@@perrycarters3113 It would be awfully tempting wouldn't it?
This whole DLC/update feels extremely reminiscient of the W2 glory days, which isn't something I thought I'd ever say about W3, given its rocky life cycle so far.
it's been a bumpy ride. Maybe, just maybe there's light at the end of the tunnel
I sincerely hope this isn't just a meager gesture to appease the consumers, but the start of a new golden age for CA, which will mark the end of disastrous launches, no day 1 dlc, no blood for the blood god, no mayor bugs, cool an interesting settlement battles, and reasonable prices for the additional content 😁
Fingers crossed. In the meantime I'm confident you'll enjoy the changes (and the DLC if you purchased it). Then we play the waiting game to see what gets cooked up next.
This is just a distraction. They did absolutely no change to the broken AI. All they did is throw new toys to milk the cash cow.
New life with Nurgle begets much greater campaigns! Can’t wait to enjoy Tamurkhan and the rest of the Nurgle changes today.
all for grandfather
I'm sure Malakai will be a huge treat for any Gotrek & Felix novel enjoyers. Wonder how much his quest battles take inspiration from there since he starts with both and even gets to recruit Ulrika.
I'll have to read them at some point!
This is such a better video than your original Shadows of Change review. So much more in depth with what is actually part of the DLC. People cannot make an informed decision on whether they will like some content or find it worth if they don't understand the scope of what is being added. Great job on this one.
Hi Constantine, your comment on my first Shadows of Change review really stuck with me haha. That comment was one of the driving forces for my re-review of Shadows of Change. I'm so glad that this video was more in line with your expectations, and your comment saying so feels like sweet vindication.
I appreciate you taking the time to say so. 🫶
@@BlakesTakes420 Well you definitely matched your old quality. It seemed like some people's reviews of SoC ended up just being sessions to bash CA. There were definitely things to criticize, but when people click a review, they typically want to actually see what the product consists of.
Unlike some other content creators you definitely climbed back to your normal high quality quite quickly. Nice review, nice showcase of the contents, and nice recent breakdowns of playing factions.
I look forward to more of your videos.
It's always a good feeling when I want to play all 3 dlcs factions, and yet I'm still gonna play Gelt first since the free updates look even more impressive.
the fact that they not only gave these older races good revamps but also made sure to give some specific lords in them some love makes me hopeful for some other LLs that could really use that treatment.
They even put some work into quest battle issues and there are plenty more that could use that.
@Nirual86 indeed. I always thought helves were good as is, but after these updates, I could easily imagine some great Tyrion, Teclis updates. I am looking forward to the future of the game (not in 3k terms, though :D)
Go get those wizards man, you've earned them.
Your videos have quickly become the best part of a release by CA. Thoroughly enjoy them, thank you!
That's so kind of you my friend, thank you 🫶
Wow, that Shadows of Change and Hyenas footage segment really is urging me to give them a go. What a take, Blake! Thanks! 😆
Thank you sir. 🫶
i started an elspeth campaign already and even just a few turns into it im fully hooked
its like an empire flavoured clan skryre
Yeah cause they literally copy pasted the mechanic.
@@via_negativa6183 its not a copy paste though
There is one very weird thing i noticed about TOD price in Poland. It costs almost 20% more than SOC and Chorfs. I hope that CA will adjust the price because as it is now, it's ludicrously expensive.
I'm sorry to hear that my Polish friend. Maybe some strange exchange on zloty to GBP. It maybe worth reaching out to CA support
Same is Australia. Even the $23USD conversion would be cheaper than the $38.20AUD (with 15% discount)
@@mikeclarke3990 I've raised this directly with Creative Assembly. So hopefully it'll at least be on their radar.
I’m loving the changes and updates across the board
I'm excited to get my hands on Elspith. I always loved my gunpowder armies, but now with these additions I can go full napoleon
My enemies are many. My equals are none.
Excellent breakdown as always. Oh, I can't wait to test out some of the Nurgle mechanics and new lord!
Thank you man, if you pick him up I hope you enjoy them!
Love your videos, keep them coming! Is there any chance you could do a High Elves guide please? Would also love to see an Ikit Claw one, he’s a lot of fun but can be very tough with the finicky issues with ranged units. Probably some overlap with your Snikch one there (another great video), but would love to hear any specific thoughts you had about his faction.
Thank you sir, I'll be covering those don't you worry 😉
@@BlakesTakes420 That’s great to hear, thank you 🙏 Will look forward to them
I personnally love the changes made to the Empire mechanic. Pretty excited overhaul!
You should be sir, I've had a load of fun with them.
Im absolutely loving elspith so far. Her quest battle for her trinket and the unique quest battle for gotrek and felix were so cool and so much fun(and kinda hard) so nice to have something different from:
Destroy enemy army.
Oh look out reinforcements behind you!
Amazing content as usual Blake. Glad to see the new DLC is good! I'm excited to spread some of Grandfather's love!
*happy Nurgle noises*
Last year was pretty bad for my favourite studios CA and Rare, but I'm happy to say my faith has been restored in both of them!
Doomeseekers once properly buffed up with tech/skill bonuses are just infantry lawnmowers. Really facilitates Slayer armies, combined with the upkeep reductions. I also feel like Espeth would make for a great fun gunpoweder-only campaign, you'd unlock the stuff much faster that way anyhow.
it's true they are, but the dwarfs are not lacking for things which eviscirate infantry. Ironbreakers, Artillery, firedrakes, quarrellers and thunderers.
My region got a price hike again.
I was ready to pay for the 3pack bundle the same price as for SoC. But it's 20% more.
It's not that I can't afford it. It's just I don't like to bend over, because Germany etc has the same price for whole ToD as for SoC
I've raised regional pricing with CA. You're not the only person.
I think you are wrong with the price at 15:17, CA said (i think) that once you buy the 1 out of 3 packs on steam the other 2 are on a 15% discount to bring the total to the same amount as the full pack at $25. Let me know if I am incorrect tho
You are correct
Yet another glorious take, i myself will grab the opportunity to play and enjoy nurgle finally
This world will be pregnant with plague.
Thanks for your take. I've been more optimistic towards this DLC, but still been kind of apprehensive. Seeing you endorse it though, what with your generally very sceptical take on... Everything CA, is uplifting. Both for the DLC itself, and the game's potential future.
Hopefully they've turned a corner. Time will tell.
Very thorough, friend. Could not have said better myself!
I hope you enjoy my good man. Always a pleasure brother 🫶
@@BlakesTakes420 very good indeed. Can't wait to play a bit more^^
Thanks Blake...still not sure if the price tag that comes with all three is worth it though.
Man I totally missed this video, I honestly can't say anything for this as I actually agree with 99% of what you've said here. Damn fine take Mr. Blake!
Good to hear from you sir.
Thank you for this review. It helped me reach a decision.
I still suck with Cathay though.
I've got you boo. 🫶
A dwarf hero with replenish troops ability is all I needed.
Indeed they're very helpful.
If you think of the landship as a second kind of steam tank you're absolutely using it wrong. The landship is a flanking vessel that attacks in a 360 degree arc and utterly crushes infantry underneath its heel. Put your landship on the flank, set it to steamroll the enemy infantry and drive by at 90 kmh while blasting gunfire everywhere.
To be fair I just much preferred the steam tank aesthetic. I'll have to try this technique of yours.
Honestly ToD is absolutely stellar. Personally im just sad they didnt give any changes to markus like they did with gelt
I hear you. Tbf I think the updates to unit tiers will help Mark's a fair bit.
As usual a very nice video. I guess some things are completely up to taste. For me personally the dwarves are the best since I´m a huge Slayer fan. But Nurgle also finally looks interesting. And I can´t wait to play a Nuln campaign. And I can´t wait to see a video why I suck with them!
100% brother. All reviews are subjective and opinion.
Hello, Blake. Thank you for your take. This DLC is looking like a strong attempt to make up for the problems with WH3, in recent times. Other videos have made me feel apprehensive about the whole Age of Reckoning mechanic, as you've pointed out, but hopefully that'll be tweaked and fixed up quickly.
You're most welcome sir. I'm sure there'll be tweaks to it. The current iteration is fun though, just a bit unforgiving at points. You'll still have a good time. 🫶
Dwarfs are my jam so I’m definitely onboard for 1/3rd of this dlc and I’m gratified that they split it up to allow that. It looks like a winner to me
enjoy my friend.
5:45 I think that appeal of the greater daemons over the other monsters is their bound spells, for the bloodthirster it's that's it's still skarbrands best option
This DLC feels like it has some of that Warhammer 2 DLC quality back
Mentioning getting a biscuit with a cup of tea is superfluous verbiage. Rich Tea dunked FTW! Good review, I'll be purchasing at a minimum Elspeth & Malakai, maybe give Nurgle a miss as I don't play non-order factions very often.
I would have chosen a hobknob.
Who will you play first I wonder?
Looks an amazing this may be my favorite DLC yet. I will definitely be loading up a nurgep campaign!
Embrace the lord of maggots. He's very good.
Thank you Blake, for this take
My pleasure!
I will say this dlc just feels good
Reworks were actually good. Elspeths mechanic is basically the skaven workshop BUT that isn't a bad thing, why reinvent the wheel and you can make some cool builds.
Nurgle doesnt feel as handicapped anymore compared to the other chaos factions.
Now they gotta figure out daniel
Really love this DLC. The patch 5.0 changes to the Empire are awesome. 9/10 would buy again.
Glad you're enjoying it my dude.
Honestly so far the game feels fantastic with this DLC.
I want to buy the bundles and stuff, completely new to the series of Warhammer and RTS or strategy in general. Currently playing Warhammer Gladius cause it was free, just to see if I really like it. I played a lot of OSRS & WoW really enjoying the PVE but also the PVP aspect. Is there the ability to just que into a multiplayer game and play with random people? Feel like thats a large put of the fun, putting your skills to the test with live opponents.
As someone who loves Nurgle and the Empire equally I can't choose between the two. I guess I'll make my choice on who got the better FLC faction updates and who really needs new DLC units and Lords
You know which one to choose.
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will mr take focus on the free content first or the paid content when doing normal blake takes videos?
I was halfway through a faction when dlc came so I'm going to finish them first
Finally completed a Karl Franz campaign. And it felt soooooooooo good.
Time to get on with dorf campaign as Bealgar. Let's just go instant hard mode. =D
That one might be a good one to put next on the list.
Good man well played
@@BlakesTakes420 Thanks. Mercenary dorf king for next Take?
I'm jazzed for the praise, but bummed that it will be a while until I get them. I still plan to wait for a decent sale.
Blake! Great video, man, but I must say that Hyenas gameplay you showed was industry-shaking. What a shame it was shut down!
Devastated about its closure.
I think you might be the best TWW3 content creator on YT
Thank you! ❤️
I love the addition of a slayer hero and the Thunderbarge for the Dawi, however I'm not exactly sold on the other units but I guess time will tell on that. I do agree that the Dwarf reworks/updates are probably the strongest part for them for the DLC. Empire is definitely winning with this DLC with much needed reworks to faction mechanics and units, along with their new additions they are definitely the part of the DLC pack I am interested in the most. Elspeth looks just plain fun and yeah she does seem a bit OP or overtuned, at least until they patch the game again, but it is nice to have another Caster LL on the field for the old Empire. I'll be honest Tamurkhan does look cool and fun but nurgle doesn't really interest me just as a faction in general, I havent played them much and I dont really expect that to change even after their respective reworks but again that's just me. Out of the Chaos Demonic factions I much prefer Khorne, at least so far, I haven't played Tzeentch yet so maybe the cackling madman will change my views. Anyway, great video thanks for your thoughts.
I enjoyed reading this. You should definitely try Nurgle out as Tamurkhan, his cheiftains mechanic gives you a good bump which removes a lot of the early Nurgle pain.
I'm going with Elspeth first, on the hopes that the new dwarf mechanic gets a rebalance in a Hotfix soon
I still feel like the dlc could move in a similar direction to paradox, free features, paired with targeted dlc. Even if the dlc itself strictly speaking does not offer as much new, if the same care and attention is spend on improving the base game, I am okay with that.
what time does it release?
3pm BST so it's available now
So glad to see that CA is starting to get their shit together again, be it via the free update or the DLC itself.
That said, _man_ this really illustrates just how unacceptable SoC and Pharaoh really were and still are. It's almost like they really can and could have done way better, had their corporate leadership not lost their goddamn minds. Completely agree with your ass-based analogy.
The initial offering for shadows of change *sucked*. No doubt. Hopefully CA can stabilise now though.
@@BlakesTakes420 Things are looking up for sure - hopefully the sales numbers end up rewarding their increased effort!
Even the additions in the 2.0 patch for SoC didn't really fix my core issues with that DLC, sadly - for example, I tried the Changeling campaign again a while ago and I just absolutely can't bring myself to enjoy it, no matter what I do, the core concept just absolutely does not work for me.
Thinking about it though, I really ought to give Pharaoh another shot as well (after I'm done with ToD) before dismissing it the way I did up there.
@@HansAlRachid you're not wrong to dismiss it, it was actually better than I expected it to be, but still deeply mediocre.
Spot on as always
Thank you friend 🫶
not me the guy who buys every dlc cuz i lvoe this game, but watches all your videos because you're awesome
Thank you for your lovely comment ❤️
Buying thrones of decay is almost a direct way to tell CA you appreciate them making good dlc again
i think it was a good idea for CA to sell the legendary lords piecemeal like they did, so you can purchase specific lords and not the ones youre not interested in
Me too. Overall a win for the consumer I'd say.
Can Ulrika join any Dwarf faction, or just Malakai?
I actually don't know haha, I'd never seen her appear in a dwarf army before.
beautiful random Erika drop
Franzer divisions man.
I need more.
Very cold take. Just goes to show how good this dlc is.
I've had a lot of fun with it, bugs and all.
I'm glad they split the dlc. I'm thinking of grabbing Elspeth and I might get Tamurkhan too. Malakai though I just don't really care about.
Why does all of that remind me of the more gunpowder and empire Engineers mod for TTW WH2? Like they look so alike. Even the Marienburg Landship is in the game now...
If CA take more inspiration from mods then I'm all for it.
I enjoyed the Hyena footage at end. I see you enjoyed it as much as I did.
I truly love it's current iteration. I hope it never changes.
the dwarfs changes look so good
I hope you enjoy them sir!
Honestly I’m just really appreciative of them splitting up the content I really don’t play the empire and barely dwarves so for now I think I’ll only buy the Nurgle dlc which is super cool imo
Me too man. It's a win and at least shows they're thinking about it.
Really hoping we finally get a Bretonnia DLC and rework in the next DLC.
That would be nice.
I feel this was a great DLC, not perfect but that can be expected for release and before any major patches come out. I really like the additions added to each of the races, lords, heroes, units, mechanics, etc. The Empire is easily my favorite with how much this enhances the gunpowder of the faction. Steam Tanks are more awesome. Hopefully this is the beginning of a new era of Warhammer 3 DLCs for the coming years.
I hope this to be the case. And I think CA have done a great job on this dlc and the patch. Hopefully we don't get a repeat of the past.
@@BlakesTakes420 Shadows of Change was a lesson CA have seemed to have learned from. Hopefully they'll continue what they started here for future DLCs for this game.
@@inductivegrunt94 shadows of change, pharoah and hyenas. All painful, uneccessary lessons.
This step in the right direction can either be a new beginning or they can get sloppy again, I'll be there to let the people know which direction I think they're taking.
Ok Stannis
Stannis the Mannis
Wow, I was expecting you to give us a teaser about how we suck at Hyenas
Hyenas crew:
"We are so back!"
They need to fix the pricing first.
In Australia it used to be $13 for 2 lords, now they are $15ea.
SoC is $36 but this new DLC is $45, just keeps getting more expensive.
You're not the only one complaining about regional pricing. That's for sure. I'll send it as feedback to CA for you.
Thanks for the nice video 👍
You're very welcome sir.
This slayer unit review earned a grudge. /s
BOOK
When Pharaoh went on sale with the big free shit announcement I grabbed it and I'm happy so far with my purchase. It'll probably be a worthy entry to the Total War franchise at its price tag.
The pharoah offering at launch was very mediocre.
1) high price
2) too narrow of a scope.
With a sale and the added free shit I think it'll be worth a buy for sure. I didn't dislike pharoah at launch, but CA really could've done better.
@@BlakesTakes420 I still can't believe they sent out partial refunds when they dropped the price.
I don't quite know if it IS worth a buy Blake me boy, but I'm sure you'll let me know when I watch this video!
I await your decision friend, let me know if you took the plunge.
i am gonna buy 2 out of 3 this is great maybe one day i will buy the 3rd but really i am gonna be happy either way its good additions to the game
Pick n mix, the savvy spender.
Excellent commentary as usual, but now that this dlc came out, with Elspeth and the slayer king roaming around, i need to know why i suck with isabella von carnstein! Plss help! 😖
There's bones coming... but not those bones.
@@BlakesTakes420 uy! Spicy
I don't see how the toad dragons replace the GUOs? Those big boy get 2 FREE uses of both fleshy abundance and blight boil, but are much slower and easier to kite. Seems quite the different roles
Only if you've gone down that tech line. Without the techs the GUOs are shocking. Which is sad to see
@@BlakesTakes420 Of course, but you'll at least get the blight boil tech till you actually get GUOs, since the infection costs for military are so steep, so its kinda a moot point. With the bound spells, GUO still remain Nurgle's best (or one of its best) units. Free blight boil and fleshy is just insane
@@mustacheBpf I disagree that it's a moot point for discussion.
It's a bad unit without technology. It has worse stats than a giant in basically every category other than melee defence
I think they should have regeneration or something.
@@BlakesTakes420 Agreed on the unit having regeneration, I also think that if any unit should have regen, its the GUO. Tho, after all the buffs, them having worse stats than giants isn't that big of an insult, since giants actually have crazy stats. The speed and tall model is what let's them down. Their weapon strenght is insane
I think these new factions will be played more then the ones in the last DLC. Less all out just good with fluid fun mechanics
Exactly this. No whacky gimmicks, just solid total war gameplay with thematic mechanical additions.
@BlakesTakes420 I'm playing the main nurgle lord, feels so good! Now it makes perfect sense what to do. Much more fun😊
We're so back...?
Yaaaaaassss
09:05 - *happy Napoleon noises*
Hahaha
I didnt even think about it. I bought all 3
I hope TW fans return with Thrones of Decay, and that sales are enough for CA to keep supporting Warhammer 3 with such high quality DLC.
I hope TW fans don't support this greedy new pricing model from CA, their best lord pack yet wouldn't even be worth the over 50% increase in price from the WH2 lord packs.
It’s not a good warhammer total war video without Michael Rosen. 6/7 good work
*click* nice.
13:03 Did you kidnapp Ulrika? You you you.... Kislev loving, Vampire tolerant, cute Monster. ;) (cute comes from my wife hearing your voice.)
And Yes Sir Blake this is one of your hottest takes of all time. And i totally agree with it. Maybe they are pricey after all but this is the quality i'm looking for. And yeah this Grudge thing could use a little Balance but it will come sooner or later.
I executed as Elspeth, but I was too desperate as the dwarfs to do the right thing.
I picked up the Tamurkhan DLC and I'm pretty miffed about the max 37 infections limit post battle. I want to say that I heard one of you streamer types say that it was a bug and that number would go up in a patch but I mean c'mon CA. Can't you just release stuff that works?
This is now fixed in hotfix 5.02
Upped the maximum infections gained post-battle from 37 to 100. (We'll continue to review both the conversion rate and the maximum going forward.)
I don't play to min max. When I play chaos undivided you better bet that I'm bringing marauders so when they charge in you hear "sacrifice them" plus all the units are cool so I don't care about stats. Throwing armies of chaft at brick walls is fun because perpetual warfare is how chaos wins
That's extremely based of you sir.
2 hrs to go I cant wait!
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Blake bakes some hot takes like tasty cakes.
Watching these videos hurts, my computer is completely broken, and I'm getting withdrawal from not playing Karl Franz 😔
Get a new gaming pc my friend. It's always the best decision.
4:08 Hello, Based Department?
😂
Is Empire actually good now?
It sure is.
Yes, yes it is
I miss the old plague/symptom icons for nurgle
They appear after the plague has been created now instead. I get what you mean, but I think the new system is a fair bit more visible and easier to navigate. Function over form, which should normally be the case.
@@BlakesTakes420 Fair