My Review After 200 Hours - Thrones of Decay DLC - Update 5.0 - Total War Warhammer 3

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  • čas přidán 13. 06. 2024
  • Thrones of Decay releases on the 30th of April and I can now finally share to you my review of this BRAND NEW DLC and update after 200 hours of gameplay. Let's discuss if this DLC and patch will save Total War Warhammer 3.
    TIMESTAMPS:
    00:00 - 01:35 - Intro & Context
    01:35 - 02:37 - What Is Thrones of Decay
    02:37 - 07:15 - Paid Content: Nurgle
    07:15 - 12:52 - Paid Content: Empire
    12:52 - 14:38 - Ironsides Drama?
    14:38 - 19:34 - Paid Content: Dwarfs
    19:34 - 21:43 - Comparing SOC & TOD
    21:43 - 22:38 - Update 5.0
    22:38 - 23:38 - Franz Rework
    23:38 - 24:12 - Gelt Rework
    24:12 - 26:10 - Character Reworks Are A MUST
    26:10 - 27:46 - Nurgle Rework
    27:46 - 29:52 - Dwarf Rework
    29:52 - 30:15 - Gold Wizard FLC
    30:15 - 30:57 - Nemesis Crown
    30:57 - 32:59 - Epidemius FREE Legendary Lord
    32:59 - 34:36 - The BEST Patch So Far?
    34:36 -39:03 - The Price
    39:03 - 42:17 - Final Thoughts On The DLC
    42:17 - 45:37 - The Future & The Layoffs
    45:37 - Outro
    My Review After 200 Hours - Thrones of Decay - Update 5.0 - Total War Warhammer 3
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  • @TheGreatBookofGrudges
    @TheGreatBookofGrudges  Před měsícem +250

    TIMESTAMPS IN DESCRIPTION
    I do not want to say "we're so back" until I see the player numbers tomorrow as ultimately YOU decide if we are or not. The patch is great, the DLC is full of stuff people actually wanted. It looks like Creative Assembly have seen after the last debacle that the PLAYERS decide what a game deserves and they will vote with their wallet. IF CA can keep giving us great updates and DLC like this then we're in for a good time. I HOPE things continue as expected so we can see the game we have invested so much time and money into finally fully realized and ALL our favorite characters, units and hopefully races can be implemented. Thank you everyone for the support for the last 2 weeks it has been wonderful. I will be live on twi- as thegreatbookofgrudges for a final stream before I take a day off to rest up after such a hectic embargo period. Pop by and hi and if not have a great day and I'll see you all again very soon!

    • @Eclipsed_Embers
      @Eclipsed_Embers Před měsícem +4

      sadly in terms of being back I'm not going to be able to afford the DLC until Wednesday...
      also... like... I've been playing regularly anyway so I never actually left the game in the first place (I genuinely liked Shadows of Change even before the updates)
      but the moment I actually have the money for it I am getting all 3

    • @armed_but_blind2768
      @armed_but_blind2768 Před měsícem

      Blood for the blood god!

    • @lucasceccattolcc
      @lucasceccattolcc Před měsícem

      how do you give that group atack order to atack without making all units target the same enemy unit? i tried using shift ctrl alt and didnt managed to trigger that atack, looks really usefull so i dont need to give orders individual so my army dont break formation

    • @carlroy
      @carlroy Před měsícem +2

      I'm glad the game is improve the bad news is I will need to remove all my mods. Damn!

    • @kalebscott282
      @kalebscott282 Před měsícem

      I have to wait for a sale to get stuff unfortunately. But they have rebuilt my faith in them, so long as they continue with this motion. A second shadows of change though, I think we might all be out. (Their attempt to repair the Shadows of Change DLC is noted and appreciated, but I'm only interested in Mr. Jade Dragon so I'm waiting on a super sale on that.)

  • @Azaghal1988
    @Azaghal1988 Před měsícem +654

    I feel like 200 hours of playtime before release are a statement in itself ;D

    • @blazemindgaming666
      @blazemindgaming666 Před měsícem +17

      Not really man when it's linked to your job

    • @anten9984
      @anten9984 Před měsícem +62

      No it's still a lot, even if it's linked to your job. That's like a month and a half of work, before it's released.
      I think it's fine, but the op is right, it's quite a statement.

    • @Mr_Haywire
      @Mr_Haywire Před měsícem +14

      @@blazemindgaming666 Tell that to IGN 😋

    • @blazemindgaming666
      @blazemindgaming666 Před měsícem +1

      @anten9984 true enough but to be fair I should of stated for me and tgbog there's alot of love for the stuff coming or least I can presume that from what we been seeing and hearing so 200 hours is not huge numbers but still a very impressive amount of time, Ngl if I had early access god knows the hours I would have by now 😅

    • @LTDRay
      @LTDRay Před měsícem +2

      @@blazemindgaming666 9-5 job for 25 day no break, yea, I think not.

  • @zannrazor8569
    @zannrazor8569 Před měsícem +212

    I’ve always said “Vanilla doesn’t mean boring”. It’s ok to have a “Vanilla” Legendary Lord in each faction as like a baseline for people trying them. But give them fun stuff to work with like what they did with Karl Franz.

    • @Nikusarusan
      @Nikusarusan Před měsícem +19

      exactly, there is a bunch of vanilla+ lords that could just stay basically the same, like Kroq-Gar, Queek, Louen, Greasus, Settra, Noctilus

    • @freedomfighter22222
      @freedomfighter22222 Před měsícem +4

      @@Nikusarusan You can't answer "exactly" and then describe something different than the person you're responding too...

    • @Nikusarusan
      @Nikusarusan Před měsícem +5

      @@freedomfighter22222im still looking for the comment you are talking about

    • @freedomfighter22222
      @freedomfighter22222 Před měsícem +3

      @@Nikusarusan The guy said Vanilla lords don't need to be boring, they need fun stuff like Franz, you responded with "exactly, there is a bunch of vanilla+ lords that could just stay basically the same", which the lords you listed couldn't, as Franz even before this rework was vastly more loaded with mechanics than someone like Kroq'Gar.
      To get to the point Franz is at Kroq'Gar would need some serious upgrade that wouldn't look much at all like what he is today.
      Tik'Tak'To would be closer to Franz but still far behind where Franz is now.

    • @ComfortingColourlessLight
      @ComfortingColourlessLight Před měsícem

      The empire is such a special case, Karl should have had something unique.

  • @sskull8
    @sskull8 Před měsícem +247

    CA did good this time ,and i just hope this game stays alive for at least 5 more years cuz they can make the game a lot better than it already is

    • @deusvult6164
      @deusvult6164 Před měsícem +5

      Especially since there is content for five more years

    • @thorstenfinke2751
      @thorstenfinke2751 Před měsícem +24

      @@deusvult6164 5 years is overly optimistic, but if the dlc sells well, the life of the game will increase. It does not look so bleak anymore.

    • @sdgamer1860
      @sdgamer1860 Před měsícem

      After how things went with Shadows of Change, i doubt that will happen

    • @Shirkhan717
      @Shirkhan717 Před měsícem

      As someone who only bought total war warhammer 1 for the greater picture to have a proper 40k one day, yes! 5 more years of development, gathering experience with the franchise, the community and the technical requirements for the next step is absolutely worth it. @Creativeasssembly Just four words: naval battles and End times!

    • @IRatchetI
      @IRatchetI Před měsícem

      I hope it doesn't. Support it this year and MAYBE next year then that's it.
      Move onto the next big project whether it's Warhammer 40k or something else.

  • @ydin9
    @ydin9 Před měsícem +115

    "You'll finally have gun powder based faction" *whistles a undead pirate hymn

    • @Autechltd
      @Autechltd Před měsícem +10

      YAARRR HARRR THE BLOOD RUNS COLD

    • @Optimusprime240
      @Optimusprime240 Před měsícem +9

      @@Autechltd WE TAKE OUR LOOT, BUT DON'T GET OLD!

    • @aminerkin9844
      @aminerkin9844 Před měsícem +3

      vampire c*%ts need rework. I like their troops, but their campaign mechanic is boring. more options needed on how to fight other than just guns, and crabs. I'd assume they will get it when my boy nagash comes. the game is way too easy now, they need to do something about that, and the end game scenarios need to be more customizable.

    • @cantandwont6636
      @cantandwont6636 Před měsícem

      @@aminerkin9844one word Norsca

    • @zacharyjackson1829
      @zacharyjackson1829 Před měsícem +6

      "you'll finally have a GOOD gunpowder based faction that wasn't nerfed multiple times to cater to the -5% of players that play multiplayer"

  • @AzraelSoulHunter
    @AzraelSoulHunter Před měsícem +221

    Let's hope the unsustainable Age of Reckoning thing can get fixed somewhat.

    • @indrickboreale7381
      @indrickboreale7381 Před měsícem +21

      Someone did gave a good replacement - each Age of Reckoning becomes more expensive or cheaper with grudges, depends on how good or bad the last one was

    • @TheRedAzuki
      @TheRedAzuki Před měsícem +3

      @@indrickboreale7381 I think it would be better to just do it like 0-5% worst effect, 5-25% less bad effect 25-75% the OK effect, 75-95% Good effect, 95-100% best effect.
      If that way they can have scaling somewhat (if they just make it less insane scaling) and then you're almost always be able to hit the OK effect, but needs effort for the Good effect and great use for best effect.

    • @Fastwinstondoom
      @Fastwinstondoom Před měsícem +10

      They could just put a max cap on it. 10-15k or something, I saw mercythemad getting a 50k age requirement xD

    • @AliothAncalagon
      @AliothAncalagon Před měsícem +21

      I honestly have no clue how CA had the idea to come up with a new race against a timer.
      As if they learned absolutely NOTHING from the disaster that was the Realm of Chaos release.

    • @ShadowPhoenixMaximus
      @ShadowPhoenixMaximus Před měsícem +1

      We're in the Warhammer Online timeline now

  • @Tentacl
    @Tentacl Před měsícem +40

    Man, you blew the coverage for this DLC out of the water. I guess ou must be tired as hell, but it was totally worth it to us subbed to your channel.

  • @Sam_Kings
    @Sam_Kings Před měsícem +56

    I hope the devs gets a a chance to fix the daemons of chaos (daniel) campaign one day. It was an interesting concept, but really leaves a lot to be desired.

    • @adriankoch964
      @adriankoch964 Před měsícem +14

      It felt like a massively overconvoluted & underpowered clusterfuck.
      If you try him in co-op without knowing his kit in your sleep your co-op buddy will die of old age while you read skill tooltips on every level up & compare +3 leadership on a tuesday bodyparts after every other battle.
      If they want to stick with having his research in his skill tree, all of those 3 point skills need to become 1 point skills with the tier 3 buff at the very least.
      It's just dissapointing that he's supposed to be chaos undivided but barely buffs a very limited selection of units.
      His bodypart could prolly be trimmed massively. Most of that stuff is just bloat. At best there are

    • @NkenKenY
      @NkenKenY Před měsícem

      @@adriankoch964 i like the god slayer hes fine :) i like to customization of my daemonprince

    • @OriginalRAB
      @OriginalRAB Před měsícem

      Honestly I think chaos demons may get a look after slaanesh. Certainly they need it. Throw in norsca too.

    • @NkenKenY
      @NkenKenY Před měsícem +1

      @@OriginalRAB yeah i want more slaanesh stuff sure i like other chaos god getting their things too tzeentch and slaanesh need more love also norsca too

  • @Zarphon
    @Zarphon Před měsícem +105

    About the Age of Reckoning mechanic for the dwarves: ive heard a lot of people make the point that "you can get around it by not revealing the map so quickly". While true in a single player campaign, for someone like me who plays mostly co-op with a friend.... The way it works currently is a massive problem and is basicly going to mean that neither one of us can play dwarves until this issue is fixed...

    • @20storiesunder
      @20storiesunder Před měsícem +24

      Apparently CA is aware of it and a fix isn't far away. Maybe even for release.

    • @draconomega
      @draconomega Před měsícem +19

      I feel like rather than line of sight, it should be dependent on settlements you own. That way, you arent punished for scouting, making allies, etc.

    • @AnMComm
      @AnMComm Před měsícem +11

      Not only is thst terrible for the co-op, ot gors against the fundamentals of gsmeplay - exploring the map is literally sonething a player must do to progress

    • @AliothAncalagon
      @AliothAncalagon Před měsícem +8

      Its also just a shit mechanic, that won't be fun for more than 50 hours.
      Its the entire "lets create a race against a timer as a campaign mechanic" issue from the Realms of Chaos all over again.

    • @Zuginator
      @Zuginator Před měsícem

      EXACTLY, it needs to just work.

  • @andresr.viguera9791
    @andresr.viguera9791 Před měsícem +59

    I hope after this they release some new endgame scenarios. It would be nice to have new scenarios with other races to fight against

    • @Eclipsed_Embers
      @Eclipsed_Embers Před měsícem +16

      it'd be nice if some of the current endgame scenarios were reworked first
      the Skaven and Chaos Dwarf ones are pretty great as they are but all of the others are just a fairly plain and boring case where they just spawn in tons of armies and declare war on everyone.
      I'd like to eventually reach a point where every race has an endgame scenario but first I'd like all the ones we already have to actually be interesting

    • @Rogash112
      @Rogash112 Před měsícem

      ​@@Eclipsed_EmbersPP

    • @Rogash112
      @Rogash112 Před měsícem

      O)P8a9😊q

    • @andresr.viguera9791
      @andresr.viguera9791 Před měsícem

      @@Eclipsed_Embers ooooh, this guy again...
      I have some words for you:
      Naga are the dominant race of Khuresh and I hope Naga come out in Warhammer 3 along with Ind humans despite how "so doom and gloom is the chance" it is.
      Off you go.

    • @randyf25
      @randyf25 Před měsícem +5

      I think “end-game” scenarios need a massive change, almost a complete rethinking.
      -stop having endgame armies focus only on player
      -endgame events: very long term plagues, massive earthquakes destroying regions and settlements, chaos god alignments (bonuses to one of the surviving monogods)

  • @gxrdian
    @gxrdian Před měsícem +13

    Hey Nathan, that was an amazing video, and i just wanna congratulate you on your hard work with the coverage of the upcoming dlc. This is very important for the community, having content creators who are honest, work hard on their content and keep the community's best interest at mind. Good stuff.

  • @krytion3762
    @krytion3762 Před měsícem +8

    That is a great review video. The Timestamps were perfect for what I wanted to know ( mostly just the nurgle stuff).
    And for CA: the best part about the marketing was that they mostly showed what we will get. Big W!

  • @TuanHoang-zy7of
    @TuanHoang-zy7of Před měsícem +7

    Balancing the multiplayer only require the adjustment of price of a unit in most case. For example, you don't need to nerf the actual power of Thunderbarge, let the people have fun with how overpowered it is, but increase its price in MP so substantially that it becomes a huge investment risk if it doesn't pay out. Multipalyer folks also tend to discover things that are actually broken, like the Beastman chariot or pump wagon collision mechanic, those are things definitely not intended by developer. As for minor stat adjustment, it doesn't make that much of a difference in campaign, a few + or - MA and MD not gonna change how campaign mechanic and lord buff make something powerful. So separate patch for MP and SP is unnecessary, I rather they spend that resource on dedicated sever so both MP player and coop player can benefit.

  • @chillylagarto7728
    @chillylagarto7728 Před měsícem +25

    Congrats on finishing the review!
    Can't wait to get my own hands on it!

  • @aimannorzahariwod
    @aimannorzahariwod Před měsícem +76

    200 hours? how long have you had this for and how many hours per session!?!?? god damn you're a legend.

    • @discoshrew7403
      @discoshrew7403 Před měsícem +15

      200 hours game play in like 2 weeks… I’m not sure legend is the word id use 😂

    • @Teoga2
      @Teoga2 Před měsícem

      ​@@discoshrew7403If u play 8 hours a Day thats 25 days so yes its a lot

    • @HansAlRachid
      @HansAlRachid Před měsícem +15

      As someone who's self-employed and works mostly on a contract-to-contract basis these days, lemme tell ya - when you've got a big job going on, you've got a big job going on and that's it. I'd imagine this is pretty similiar here - no such thing as a social life for a while there. 😅

    • @TheGreatBookofGrudges
      @TheGreatBookofGrudges  Před měsícem +3

      ​@@HansAlRachidexactly this mate I basically did not leave my house for 2 weeks

    • @michaelfoulker5137
      @michaelfoulker5137 Před měsícem

      I wish we could get type of game for 40k

  • @runeh3022
    @runeh3022 Před měsícem +10

    - Malekith should have a Black Council type of mechanic.
    - Morathi needs the Cult of Pleasure to be properly represented and her magic specifically, but also dark magic to be more powerful. Make Arnzipal's Black Horror into an army-type utility spell perhaps. Makes zero sense that Elspeth, Gelt and others bring more magic to the table than her and her Coven. Her faction needs to feel like a cult, not as much a proper army.
    - Dark Elves also need a few legendary characters. Kouran and Shadowblade would be ideal for this. Tullaris could be a legendary lord or legendary hero really. Malekith could really do with Kouran as a Legendary hero from the start.
    - Feels like DE Cold Ones could use a bit of a speed boost across the board.
    - Teclis and High Magic could use a buff... Free Fireball almost seems like an insult tbh. Maybe something relating to the Tower of Hoeth in terms of buffs.

    • @OriginalRAB
      @OriginalRAB Před měsícem +2

      Power/mechanic creep is as real as it is in the tabletop. There is ALWAYS going to be certain factions at the lower end of interesting. That being said I hope you get what interests you.

    • @ProduccionesPaquito
      @ProduccionesPaquito Před měsícem +4

      Game 2 factions are fine, but I'd love individual characters to get some extra mechanics that add flavor. Playing Malekith and Tyrion you feel like playing as the faction, not as the master of all druchii nor the genocide-happy hero of the asur. Plagues for Skrolk, begging here, literally begging...

    • @runeh3022
      @runeh3022 Před měsícem

      @@OriginalRAB It wasn't really for the power of it tbh. :-) Well, perhaps Malekith could be a little better. More for immersion and replicability. Some characters just don't quite feel like they are very accurately represented on the power-scale as such, but I'm absolutely not saying the DE and HE's are not very good overall.

    • @josiahstreetman8806
      @josiahstreetman8806 Před měsícem +1

      How about a Thrones style rework dlc for Slaanesh, Dark and High elves? I feel like there's lots of good potential there.

    • @runeh3022
      @runeh3022 Před měsícem

      @@josiahstreetman8806 That is exactly what I'm hoping for :-)

  • @keyskdog
    @keyskdog Před měsícem +1

    Awesome review, and thank you for throwing that sneaky Total war 40k reference in there, we must speak it into existence!

  • @thantonousneil
    @thantonousneil Před měsícem +1

    Love all of your content! Keep at I really do appreciate your channel!

  • @MadHyena42
    @MadHyena42 Před měsícem +1

    Thanks a lot for all your hard work, been loving the content you put out for this DLC

  • @Blu-el3je
    @Blu-el3je Před měsícem +1

    Great video Nathan. Way to stick with it during your funk period. I'm excited for the release based on the perspective you've shared.

  • @raozspaz
    @raozspaz Před měsícem +2

    Honestly for Skrolk I just want his old plague building back. The building he got for capital regions that just caused plagues to erupt there was a huge boon to his faction. If they gave him that back I think he'd do far better.

  • @Lochost1986
    @Lochost1986 Před měsícem +1

    Thank you! Awesome review!

  • @davids.8909
    @davids.8909 Před měsícem +1

    Thanks for all the content and information! Have some rest while watching the player numbers haha

  • @prag449
    @prag449 Před měsícem +4

    I like Ironsides sticking with musket. Especially after NuKislev.

  • @marcus3457
    @marcus3457 Před měsícem

    I am very much looking forward to this update. I did very much enjoy this review. Thank you for all of your hard work on this.
    Cheers!

  • @Martin-mi7vx
    @Martin-mi7vx Před měsícem +1

    Do you have a download link so I can support you with my purchase? I know you have issues with them re pre orders but thought you might have one given no pre orders.

    • @TheGreatBookofGrudges
      @TheGreatBookofGrudges  Před měsícem

      I do not :) your likes, comments and good vibes are the best support I can ask for

  • @michorizo84
    @michorizo84 Před měsícem +2

    Thanks for all the effort, Nathan 👍

  • @jackmurray7111
    @jackmurray7111 Před měsícem +1

    Honestly thanks for all the content!

  • @aninnymouse1069
    @aninnymouse1069 Před měsícem +3

    200 hours of gameplay before release is wild. Well done.

  • @waggertribe
    @waggertribe Před měsícem

    I would be interested in a video going over the factions in the game and assess them with regards to missing content and required reworks. What mechanics could be added to generic LL as mentioned in this review. Top notch review as always

  • @snakeoo7ca
    @snakeoo7ca Před měsícem +4

    Have to disagree here about the game not needing to fit a lore narrative, with so much content as with a franchise like warhammer, lore/narrative is what is important to fans

  • @TheGilbertorr
    @TheGilbertorr Před měsícem +1

    Thanks for the in depth look at everything going on in and outside of this dlc. Did about 20 turns with Malakai last night and I'm enjoying it so far! Throgg didn't stand a chance!

  • @mamaabech
    @mamaabech Před měsícem +1

    I'm so much looking forward to this DLC! Can't wait for tomorrow. I've no idea who I'm gonna play first - at first I thought for sure Nurgle, but after seeing your streams with the others, I'm not quite sure anymore. They all looks so great and I'm so happy about this!

    • @PuddingXXL
      @PuddingXXL Před měsícem

      Same here. Took me half an hour in faction select to decide on Malakaisson first.
      It's been a blast honestly. Haven't had this much fun with dwarves since Terrormortars chord stacks.

    • @mamaabech
      @mamaabech Před měsícem

      @@PuddingXXL Terrormortars as in Iron Daemon Dreadquakes? Yeah that's mighty fun!

  • @olafthemoose9413
    @olafthemoose9413 Před měsícem +2

    I really hope the AI is good at using thunderbarges and actually recruits them too.

  • @JumpyLemming22
    @JumpyLemming22 Před měsícem +3

    10 minutes into this review I bought the bundle

  • @avalothoath8959
    @avalothoath8959 Před měsícem +1

    Hi mate! I was wondering why i couldnt find you on youtube, when did you switch your streams on twitch?

  • @saladuit
    @saladuit Před měsícem

    What are your thoughts on the state of the battle ai? The biggest reason I haven't played is because the ai feels way to stupid. Do you think they'll tackle that?

  • @alfarabi73
    @alfarabi73 Před měsícem

    Can you get Kayzk as Archaon? And what about other Tamurkhan lieutenants - assuming you use Recruit Defeated Legendary Lords?

  • @unendedsilence3685
    @unendedsilence3685 Před měsícem +1

    I love your work Nathan. You are literally my number 1 for WH content. Keep the education coming pls. I look forward to the future of GBG and even Warhammer 3.

  • @devindbass6711
    @devindbass6711 Před měsícem +1

    Nice video, I appreciate your heart felt discussion at the end of this video. I think I can speak for a lot of people, we too hope that CA has learnt from the last DLC. I am hoping no more layoffs. I am also hoping SEGA sees the fan support and allows CA to continue to make great games for us. Cheers.

  • @janmantsch6675
    @janmantsch6675 Před měsícem

    The only idea i have to limit the Dwarf Grudge problem is that instead of calulating the next amount based on all the grudges you can see it instead has an upper limmit that is linked to the ammount of settlements and Characters you have on the map.
    It would also kind of fit thematically the more dwarfs you controll the more grudges they want you to settle.
    Maybe let it have a base count of idk 2000 and then add 400 per majour settlement and 200 per minor settlement (so around 1k per region, on average) + 500 per Legenday Lord and 250 per generic Lord (the people have expectations of their champions).
    The problem with that could be that people feel punished for playing well so maybe add to the Legenday grudges a -10% Grudges required reward so that it represents your people being happy and more content with your rule.

  • @Doombot221
    @Doombot221 Před měsícem

    On mortal lords for the other monogods I think Arbaal has been mentioned enough that it makes sense for him to turn up for Khorne soon, Dechala is an obvious shoe-in for Slaanesh, and Egrimm Van Horstmann for Tzeentch.
    When Van Horstmann I expect/hope that the Changeling is moved elsewhere as he would make the most sense I think for a Tzeentch character appearing in the regions of the empire.

  • @Nafrax
    @Nafrax Před měsícem +1

    as someone who focuses mainly on pvp is this dlc worth? specificely for nurgle, hes always been very bad in pvp and wonder if this dlc provides him with that umphf that he needs to compete against other factions

  • @nickoreimer4214
    @nickoreimer4214 Před měsícem +2

    While i look forward to the Karl Franz Changes i hope his campaign doesn´t change too drastically. I´m one of the few who actually enjoy his campaign which boils down to you running around and trying to fight off the Legendary Lords surrounding you from all sides. I like that you feel pressured from turn 1 and it never really let stops.

    • @PuddingXXL
      @PuddingXXL Před měsícem

      AI Franz definetly steamrolls more now and isn't as easily eaten up by Vlad.
      He is still very fun but the first thing you'll notice is the border fortresses bordering bretonnia and our vampire wizard boi.
      I've still had a lot of fun with him but his campaign definitely feels different and more empire focused now.
      The summon mechanic is so satisfying tho.
      Getting abused by Kazhrak or Fetus? Summon 7 stacks of roided nobles directly to the bronze fortress and you've got no problems anymore lol

  • @jarlwilliam9932
    @jarlwilliam9932 Před měsícem +6

    Lore full mortal with Tamurkhan? Dude had hordes of demons in his army and he even had Epidemus as a captain of his forces.
    The lair he made outside of Pfieldorf before marching on Nuln was an entire Nurgle biosphere filled with hordes of plague toads and plague bearers on the inside.

  • @nosir5596
    @nosir5596 Před měsícem +1

    Really solid DLC, glad to see them getting back on track again. Don't understand the ire towards the multiplayer scene really; it feels really misdirected. Seems pretty obvious that CA have been [seemingly] focused more on that end bc that end requires less work; it's a lot of tinkering with the numbers and tweaking what's already there, instead of expanding the game in a meaningful way. Either way, MP guys seem to have a lot to like in this pack too. Lots of additions for everyone to enjoy. Makes me excited to see more WH3 again after being kinda burned out on it. I hope to see Azhag and Grimgor get something cool like Gelt and Franz. Skarsnik and Belegar at least have their unique campaign goals and stuff even if it could be improved, but IMO the first priority should be the original 2 lords for each WH1/WH2 race (assuming they don't already have unique campaigns like Manfred or Kemmler now do). Give Azhag, Grimgor, Teclis, Tyrion, Skrolk, Queek and Mazda/Kroq-gar something cool and we'd be in a pretty good place.

  • @gus349
    @gus349 Před měsícem +9

    Thanks a lot for that work!
    Really hyped for ToD

  • @MrGoodCat8
    @MrGoodCat8 Před měsícem +1

    Nurgle's back baby!
    "Let root rot and bower blight, to feed the pestilence of abandoned hope"

  • @cygnusx-1256
    @cygnusx-1256 Před měsícem

    It's cool to see more factions get access to the Cataclysm spells in Immortal empires

  • @joelh5071
    @joelh5071 Před měsícem +2

    Looks like Warhammer 3 is back on the menu, boyz!

  • @The77Voice
    @The77Voice Před měsícem +52

    I will never support pre orders. I think the practice has been horrible for the game industry as it has moved from being treated as investments by potential customers in a product to being treated as a forwarded loan to use however the company wants. The whole exercise of pre orders should be abolished.

    • @therealikitclaw8124
      @therealikitclaw8124 Před měsícem +2

      You can't pre-order Thrones of decay, can you?

    • @theloniuspunk383
      @theloniuspunk383 Před měsícem +2

      ​@therealikitclaw8124 I would rather pre order thrones of decay than witness the wholesale replacement of the Irish people by some foreign bankers

    • @therealikitclaw8124
      @therealikitclaw8124 Před měsícem +1

      @@theloniuspunk383 I would rather pre-order thrones of decay than be skinned alive.

    • @foxbennett7202
      @foxbennett7202 Před měsícem

      Thrones wasn’t available for preorder bro

  • @barleysixseventwo6665
    @barleysixseventwo6665 Před měsícem +3

    Honestly, the Thinderbarge needs a bit of a tweak in Singleplayer, too. I am NOT looking forward to facing four of those things come the “A Grudge too Far” event, and 2/3rds of my bullets ‘missing’ because the gasbag on the Thunderbarg isn’t part of the hitbox.
    The bombs should probably be a limited-use ability as well, just to give the player something more to micro. Ideally, a 1 or 2-use unitbuster.

    • @benderbendingrodriguez6375
      @benderbendingrodriguez6375 Před měsícem

      They should also have unit caps like the Dread Saurians if they don't already.

    • @PuddingXXL
      @PuddingXXL Před měsícem +1

      ​@@benderbendingrodriguez6375 why unit cap them? They cost huge amounts of upkeep and in single player I want a doom stack with them. Capping them will only reduce variety of gameplay for me.personally.

    • @benderbendingrodriguez6375
      @benderbendingrodriguez6375 Před měsícem

      @@PuddingXXL You could still do that it would just take a long time and you would need to work for it by getting a bunch of tier 5 buildings. Maybe also have some skills for increasing it like with Tomb Kings.
      Fighting just one of them especially as a faction not equipped to deal with them like Slaanesh or Beastmen is gonna be painful enough. Fighting several is gonna be a nightmare.
      Again if Dread Saurians have a unit cap then I don't see why they shouldn't.

  • @gnth9552
    @gnth9552 Před měsícem

    Skrolk must be my most played faction before the patch.
    Haven't played him since the plague changes and it must have been a noticeable nerf to him, but I still like him for how vanilla he is.
    - Discount on thematic buildings
    - Upkeep reduction for thematic units
    - Your plagues deal attrition, i.e. damage. Even your plague spell in combat is just area damage. Not that the buffs/debuffs aren't nice, but Nurgle already has plenty of that especially since the update.
    I would love to keep him as a faction that just deals damage with plagues. Additional effects shouldn't be built into his plagues, but instead be options that you can unlock in the plague buildings (including the infinite plague undercity building) if you'd like to trade in damage potential for them.

  • @Obscurit1
    @Obscurit1 Před měsícem +1

    I think they put so much focus on MP balancing in the past because it adds reach to the game they couldn't get otherwise, for example through content creators or active competitive communities. I completely share your opinion on the campaign though and I am happy that with this patch they are (hopefully) finally starting to fix more things than they break.

  • @HorusHeresy1982
    @HorusHeresy1982 Před měsícem +2

    I'm still waiting for Egrimm van Horstman, Scyla Anfingrimm and Arbaal the Undefeated. I want to see a flesh hound mount, a giant spawn and a Caster with Lore of Tzzeench and Light!

  • @krispinidan1478
    @krispinidan1478 Před měsícem +2

    did they fix frost wyren for kislev?

  • @battlemode
    @battlemode Před měsícem +2

    Fantastic overview Nathan, think you speak for a lot of us with those closing thoughts too. Really appreciate the work you put in bringing these videos to us.

  • @geanipocroianu6683
    @geanipocroianu6683 Před měsícem +1

    Excellent review mate. I think it's a great time to return to Warhammer 3

  • @owenscull2531
    @owenscull2531 Před měsícem +1

    Hope to get dlc at the weekend dwarfs campaign look really good. I like the idea of getting the other legendary Lords in the dwarf faction even if they are defeat, I hope they put this system to all faction because it would allow you to beef up your faction better through the campaign.

  • @daveb7049
    @daveb7049 Před měsícem

    I’m hopeful that with the monkey king dlc cathay will get the updates it needs, caravan system up to the chaos dwarf convoy level, more variety for great bastion invasions are the main two things the race needs.

  • @andybiddle5799
    @andybiddle5799 Před měsícem

    what time will the dlc drop?

  • @peterhardie4151
    @peterhardie4151 Před měsícem +1

    Thanks. I haven't played in a year. Maybe time to dive back in

  • @Nilbop
    @Nilbop Před měsícem +3

    “If you don’t explore the map and wait 100 hours before confederating you’ll barely notice the bug!”

    • @TheGreatBookofGrudges
      @TheGreatBookofGrudges  Před měsícem

      8 hours in I confederated in. Didn't see a point before because my plan was to build a HUGE Dwarf Empire with my allies. Sadly Belegar failed and had to be absorbed.

    • @bobbobberson3383
      @bobbobberson3383 Před měsícem +1

      He said 100 turns I believe. The confederacy thing should be an easy fix for CA. I’m worried on the age of reckoning mechanic there going to cave to the Easy/easy player base and make it a cake walk to get the highest level

  • @andrewcarr9654
    @andrewcarr9654 Před měsícem +2

    Gotrek and Felix's adventures

  • @googlespyingonme
    @googlespyingonme Před měsícem +2

    epic review, thanks grudges, u madman. this dlc is gonna be awesome. but the age of reckoning needs fixing.

  • @sirtrevis
    @sirtrevis Před měsícem +1

    Outstanding game. Own all of the content. Play for hours a day. ... Over the years, when my attention has wandered to other video games or other hobbies, what has brought me back to TWW is the Indiepride and Turin MULTIPLAYER videos, cinematics, and commentary. Grudges, here, was just on my periphery of experience. Recently, the magnificence of the single player, around the world, experience has really caught my attention, and Grudges content (and, the other single player guys) has moved to the fore. ...

  • @ab-uo6rd
    @ab-uo6rd Před 16 dny

    we are so back!

  • @gundamofspitara7583
    @gundamofspitara7583 Před měsícem

    I haven’t purchased any WH3 DLC content yet, but I really appreciate some of the new stuff. I plan to get one of the lords right away, and another one not long after. I hope that CA is able to see that releasing a good product will make them money, especially when the barrier to entry is lowered

  • @pavlepavlovic4073
    @pavlepavlovic4073 Před měsícem

    I just want to add that while all this content looks amazing. We should be careful in saying that things are back on track. Remember that we were saying the same thing last year with Chaos Dwarfs, which were also an amazing addition, probably my favorite and most well thought out race in the whole franchise. And then afterwards SoC happened... The important thing for CA to understand is to keep up this consistency in quality and fairly priced amount of content going forward. Which, you do mention in the video, but I just wanted to stress it even further, consistency is the key, community cannot allow itself to relax in expecting a standard from CA, because it is obvious that CA can do it.
    Anyway, great and enjoyable review, as well as all the preview stuff you did. Thank you for all that, and keep up the amazing work!

  • @jamestu34982
    @jamestu34982 Před měsícem

    I do love the update. But I’m excited to see what people come up with in terms of mods and updates to current mods.

  • @quasidoc7726
    @quasidoc7726 Před měsícem

    My concern now with ToD dlc is will the company continue to work on the bugs ect for it or is this just a dump the dlc's and cut our losses then we never seen the game progress.

  • @shawn7384
    @shawn7384 Před měsícem

    Been waiting for eons for the Dwarf and empire updates! I'm definitely purchasing this one. Been watching some of the content creators and the new stuff looks great.

  • @rinserofwinds
    @rinserofwinds Před měsícem

    i am pretty sure units like Thunderbarge and the Landship are playtests for 40k units.
    They test multiple weopons on one unit, different armor for different directions and so on.
    Let's hope they find their way again.

  • @seanreusing4409
    @seanreusing4409 Před měsícem +1

    You've done it Nathan. You have become what you've always wanted to be; An Exalted Champion to the Dark Prince Slannesh. Praise be upon your ascension to his/her side in your road to Daemon Prince

    • @TheGreatBookofGrudges
      @TheGreatBookofGrudges  Před měsícem +2

      My time will come!

    • @seanreusing4409
      @seanreusing4409 Před měsícem

      @@TheGreatBookofGrudges so.... when's the Slannesh lore video? I've been wondering since you did one for all the other chaos gods back in the early days of TWWH3. Surely a true discipline such as yourself would want our curiosity pray upon our deepest desires to listen upon the words of She Who Thirsts

  • @Alexander9946
    @Alexander9946 Před měsícem

    Looks great! Tbh though I'm going to wait for a little while until the mods I play with are all updated 😅

  • @DeadMarine1980
    @DeadMarine1980 Před měsícem +1

    I hope that this DLC does great and is a shot in the arm (Hey stay away Festus). Because I wanna see the universe expanded. I wanna see a Ind faction, I wanna see Dogs of War and Araby.

  • @Sweetllew
    @Sweetllew Před měsícem +1

    I still can not pre-order the dlc on steam store it is not showing up as able to buy

  • @cacarey01
    @cacarey01 Před měsícem +1

    Where is Nathan / TGBoG from?
    Trying to place the dialect.

  • @PuddingXXL
    @PuddingXXL Před měsícem +1

    Little bit of a spoiler for Malakaissons adventure battle with chorfs.
    Love how they made the supply train quest of chorfs into the antithesis of the adventure battle. Also nice bait CA. You'll be the ine paying for half my army being destroyed by reinforcing terror mortars. Without an airforce you're boned.
    One of the funnest scripted battles I've had yet

  • @ja5361
    @ja5361 Před měsícem

    Is the Slanesh one going to be named Courts of Seduction? 😊

  • @cango8415
    @cango8415 Před měsícem

    Seeing nurgle and dwarf tech trees I still think some of the kislev tech tree could use some help especially the ones unlocked after city. Half of them feels very weak.

  • @WolfeRavenwood
    @WolfeRavenwood Před měsícem +1

    "This is the true timeline, i don't care what everyone says."
    Ok... convinced me to sub XD
    (Also i really wish multiplayer and single player would be different games/units. MP is a cancer for any gameplay in this game.)

  • @MrEddieLomax
    @MrEddieLomax Před měsícem +3

    My biggest fear here is the power creep, units should be interesting rather then keyboard face rolling. While one of WH2's best expansion was 'potion of speed', perhaps with WH3 they could up the difficulty and add fun dilemmas to the game.

  • @cacarey01
    @cacarey01 Před měsícem

    is it possible tonbetray the empire and Ally with the Vampire counts?
    I guess the settlements still suffer from Vampiric corruption even if your Faction leader doesn't.
    I want to play an Empire campaign but don't like the idea of fighting on the side of order as much.

  • @dust921
    @dust921 Před dnem

    faction idea (2) a insect race the cool thing is with them is they burrow most units r like trapdoor spiders that can move underground like lurkers frome SC & thaer braces r deep underground & can make fast tunnels to any point on the map that they can see

  • @fartz3808
    @fartz3808 Před měsícem

    25:00 These 'starter location choices' like Gelt can also help make the world a bit more immersive with less AI-controlled Legendary Lords starting in random spots on the worldmap. There should be a difference between AI Legendary Lord locations (they should be put in their own cultural-zone of the map) and one for Player Campaign start locations. (Those can remain as they are) Because the whole motivation for Certain Lords ending up in Lustria or Cathay or w/e is a diverse campaign experience. You can also have both?
    When I play as Tyrion I want to be able to recruit other Legendary Lords but most of them are too far away.

  • @phecto
    @phecto Před měsícem

    definitely going to have to get this one and do at least another empire and dwarf campaign if not several

  • @Taranis00
    @Taranis00 Před měsícem

    This looks like a well done DLC that I'll surely buy !
    While I love the Immortal Empire map, I wish they would add maps that focus on a smaller region like the Old World in Warhammer 1 with more region/settlement.

  • @CrippleX
    @CrippleX Před měsícem +2

    People who have purchased the DLC are reporting that none of the non-Lord, non-Hero units added by the DLC have unique voicelines and instead simply reuse lines from other units. I didn't hear anything about this in your review. Can you confirm whether this is a bug or if those units do, indeed, reuse voice lines from other units?
    If it is a bug, I hope it is patched quickly.
    If they are using recycled voice lines, I feel like this should have been given a decent bit of attention in your review as the inclusion of these lines is HUGE for immersion and from a professional production value standpoint. It's this level of production and added immersion that makes the difference between a DLC you want to pay for and a free mod from the workshop. It matters. You say in your review that you want consumers to make an informed decision, but not covering an omission of this size isn't giving your audience a chance to be properly informed. Leaving out voice lines is leaving out half of what you pay for when you buy DLC units.
    I really hope this is a bug. I wanted Thrones of Decay to do well. I really liked what I saw up until I heard about the voice lines. It was going to be an auto purchase for me, but cutting corners by leaving out voice lines shows me that CA will be back to Shadows of Change level disrespect for their customers as soon as they can get away with it.

  • @euychua
    @euychua Před měsícem

    I hope since TWW3 has an actual tutorial they’ll give the old “vanilla” lords some more love like what they did with Franz

  • @TheHoardingPeon
    @TheHoardingPeon Před měsícem

    I have to say i like the fact that they splitted the 3 race as 3 bundle , its good for people who wish only one or 2 out of the 3 availability is key here !

  • @BoatLoadsofDope
    @BoatLoadsofDope Před měsícem

    I never played an Empire campaign ever, but i heard "Napoleon Total War in Warhammer 3" Might gonna have to get the DLC afterall!

  • @inductivegrunt94
    @inductivegrunt94 Před měsícem +5

    I'm really excited for this DLC. The reworks were sorely needed for all three factions, the units are amazing, the lords are very welcome, and so much more went so well inspite of the issues that will always crop up here and there. I can't wait to get this DLC and try out all the lords and units for each of the factions.

  • @sokarxanthus9454
    @sokarxanthus9454 Před měsícem

    No aditional units for Demons of Chaos ?

  • @Jo-Heike
    @Jo-Heike Před měsícem

    I am actually very excited about the release and new patch. If everything is as it looks based on your review I intend to buy all three DLCs as a bundle and also play Warhammer 3. Haven't really been excited for much Warhammer 3 related since before release, but all of this looks like some very positive developments.

  • @tictactic7909
    @tictactic7909 Před měsícem

    This DLC being good it seems really makes me excited for a good Slaanesh dlc to come. Playing a N’Kari campaign now and having a lot of fun with the mechanics once I figured out the ideal play-style for this faction. I just wish Slaanesh had A) more units and B) more unit variety. I understand that CA is limited by GW and the lore, but with the Old World coming out I can’t imagine a better time for GW to actually create some new demonic units. I feel like from watching your previous videos on the subject that any 5 units added for Slaanesh would be limited; therefore, I feel like GW and CA for a Slaanesh dlc should get together to add the limited remaining units plus create or envision a new unit or two for Slaanesh that never had a tabletop model.

  • @leon1493
    @leon1493 Před měsícem

    I have never played nurgle but this makes me want to

  • @bertreynolds8146
    @bertreynolds8146 Před měsícem

    Everything looks right. I was really worried they wouldn't get the price point right, after the last disaster. This was a smart move

  • @christophebedouret9813
    @christophebedouret9813 Před měsícem +1

    I would have loved to get shield bearers for my bearling lord...

  • @Matthew-du8pr
    @Matthew-du8pr Před měsícem

    I own all 3 games, each of them since launch, and every single piece of downloadable content… with the exception of shadows of change. For thrones of decay, I can’t wait to give them my money. Keep producing quality content and we will support it endlessly